Yankees add exhibition at West Point
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 16, 2013 
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The Yankees have added an additional exhibition game to their spring schedule.
Two days after the end of the Grapefruit League schedule, and one day after playing an exhibition in Washington D.C., the Yankees will travel to West Point for a March 30 game against the Army Black Knights. The game was announced by Major League Baseball and further details are expected from the Yankees.
Pitchers and catchers report to Yankees camp on February 12. The first Grapefruit League game will be February 23 against the Braves, and the last Grapefruit League game will be March 28 against the Pirates. The Yankees will play an exhibition against the Nationals in Washington D.C. on March 29, then they’ll go to West Point on March 30, leaving one off days before Opening Day on April 1.
Bryan Hoch notes that the Yankees played exhibition games at West Point as far back as the Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig era.
Two days after the end of the Grapefruit League schedule, and one day after playing an exhibition in Washington D.C., the Yankees will travel to West Point for a March 30 game against the Army Black Knights.
The Bronx Barnstormers?
Thanks, Chad. Cool also that the Yanks are playing the Dominican WBC team on March 6th.
blake January 16th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
“I’m not a huge Holliday fan but they might never be able to get a guy that produces those numbers for that price again on the free agent market. I don’t think he’s a guy who you build a lineup around but he’d be much better than any of the Yanks’ current OFs.”
.302 .385 .517 .903 OPS+ 146.
That’s what he’s hit combined since he signed his contract
to compare…..
311 .370 .539 .909 OPS+ 141
that’s what Cano has hit in the same time frame.
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I don’t know if Cano has really proven that he can be the foundation of a lineup plus those numbers as a 2B are monstrous. Still, I agree that Holliday would have been an awesome and a very feasible signing at the time. I know that Cards fans get on Holliday a lot for his perceived lack of clutch hits but he’s produced very well in STL.
Beltran also bothers me almost as much as Holliday. They could have used that bat in the postseason last year and this year.
How bout Chattanooga?
“The first Yankee that steps outta that theyyyre dugout, gets his heaaadddd blown off”
Yosemite Sam
Great. Can’t wait for some real baseball.
Bring it on.
Dammit!!
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Shame Spencer January 16th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Nick – All fair points. But I still think the PED issue hinges on how much you believe they hurt or help. I don’t think it turns a guy into a total pumpkin so, and this is specified in many of my comments already, for me I don’t see PEDs being the crux of the argument for signing him or not.
If I was in charge of something important, like a baseball team, I might want to avoid the PR hit of course.
So I get that it’s still a factor and citing that other teams passed for those reasons is valid. I just tend to believe its more PR than probabilities at work… I think the probabilities are in favor of Melky being a productive player (not at batting title levels, for the record).
Sorry, MTU, but there are still no games scheduled for tomorrow.
To All-
Does anybody have information regarding when
Yankees single game tickets for the 2013 season go on sale?
Thanks in advance. Much appreciated
But it’s getting closer every day Nick.
Nick, for the third time, who said Melky was going to be as good as he was in SF?
The confirmed Mets twitter account literally just tweeted this:
@Mets
Awesome. Anytime @redturn2 creampies some1 means something good happened RT @MitchNYM How does it feel when Justin Turner creampies u?
….I guess no one actually said that, then??
WTP, re: single game ticket sales: in 2012 it was @March 22; in 2011 @ March 11…
“Awesome. Anytime @redturn2 creampies some1 means something good happened RT @MitchNYM How does it feel when Justin Turner creampies u?”
That truly is awesome.
Shame, if you want gauge how much of a factor it was in the real world, once again just look at what Melky just signed for vs. what some at his age and with the skills he demonstrated over the past two seasons should have signed for.
I’m of the belief that we don’t know how much different types of PEDs can help players and the same exact PED usage might help Player A a lot and Player B just a little. And we can’t really know since there’s no parallel universe, as Jerkface pointed out, to see the same player perform with and without.
Side note: do we know if Ozzie Canseco used? Probably. Wouldn’t you if your twin was using and was getting superstar results? Pretty crazy, indentical twin big leaguers, one became a star, the other barely clung to the bigs for some small number of seasons. How about Jeremy Giambi? I wonder if PED usage interfered with his “knowing when to slide” brain function.
But anyway, the effect of PED usage on Melky’s production was the biggest question GMs had to ask. And THEN there’s the PR hit and the risk, however minimal you might think it is, that the lesson Melky learned was to not get caught again except maybe he will get caught again, etc.
“I’m saying that the GM’s who had to option to pursue Melky had to and clearly did take it into account because, absent that taint, a switch-hitting OF with those numbers, at Melky’s age, and with Melky’s defensive skills would be signed for more and longer than what Melky just signed for.”
yes…I missed your point
“Beltran also bothers me almost as much as Holliday. They could have used that bat in the postseason last year and this year.”
ah….another of my yearly obsession candidates that was ignored.
yankeefeminista January 16th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
WTP, re: single game ticket sales: in 2012 it was @March 22; in 2011 @ March 11…
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I appreciate the info
Seems strange to see that single game tickets are put on sale as late as March.
I will be flying to NYC the last week of April, so you know I have to see at least 1 game
in person at the New Stadium. First trip back to NYC since 2004
That’s the point about Melky. His PED issue provided an opportunity to get a potentially really good player at a discount. So, of course, there is a risk, but when you have a deep pocketed team, a bunch of aging/declining players, no ML ready help from the mLs, and a gaping hole i the OF, it is a screaming buy!
Hey Mr. Prufrock, are you going for some kind of Perry Mason moment here? For the third time? Did you keep going on in the previous thread?
Which do you think will happen first?
A) I answer your thrice-asked question.
B) A blog proponent of more polite discourse gently chides for you for calling someone here “an idiot here who does nothing but try to start fires between other posters like the voyeur and ghost he is.”
Probably choice A. Just like Caesar wanted the people of Rome to ask him more than once, I don’t always want to answer the first time either.
“Beltran also bothers me almost as much as Holliday. They could have used that bat in the postseason last year and this year.”
ah….another of my yearly obsession candidates that was ignored.
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Where would you have wanted the Yankees to play Beltran?
the new market inefficiency is guys who get caught with PEDS and who are under 30
Sweeny Murti ?@YankeesWFAN
Yankees announce ARod hip surgery “went as planned and without complication.” Full recovery is estimated to be 6 months.
“Where would you have wanted the Yankees to play Beltran?”
Trade Swisher so you get something other than a draft pick for him, and insert Beltran. That is what some of us advocated in 2011 going into the offseason.
Beltran played a lot of RF with the Cards last year. They could have easily stuck him in left instead of playing Ibanez/Jones when Gardner went down. Before that he could have DH’d most of the time. There was a spot for him.
Rich in NJ January 16th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
That’s the point about Melky. His PED issue provided an opportunity to get a potentially really good player at a discount.
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It actually could have been considered a good thing, from a Yankee budgetary perspective, that Melky got busted. SMH
Rich in NJ January 16th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
“Where would you have wanted the Yankees to play Beltran?”
Trade Swisher so you get something other than a draft pick for him, and insert Beltran. That is what some of us advocated in 2011 going into the offseason.
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That is fine if people preferred Beltran over Swisher.
“Where would you have wanted the Yankees to play Beltran?”
RF and DH….he and Swisher could have shared that role. Obviously when Gardner got hurt he would have played every day…..that or they could have traded Swisher for value instead of losing him for a draft pick.
jacksquat January 16th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Two days after the end of the Grapefruit League schedule, and one day after playing an exhibition in Washington D.C., the Yankees will travel to West Point for a March 30 game against the Army Black Knights.
The Bronx Barnstormers?
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More entertaining than the Bingo Long Traveling All Stars and Motor Kings?
blake January 16th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Sweeny Murti ?@YankeesWFAN
Yankees announce ARod hip surgery “went as planned and without complication.” Full recovery is estimated to be 6 months.
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I guess that is good news.
6 months from now is mid July
On track for post all star break return
at Red Sox
at Rangers
Home game would be July 26 vs Rays
followed by at Dogers to end July
To conclude: No one actually said that Melky would be as good this season as he was last year with SF, even though Nick in SF stated otherwise (obliquely directed at me, I expect).
No worries. Whatever helps you advance whatever argument you were making, even if it’s not a factual statement
Beltran played a lot of RF with the Cards last year. They could have easily stuck him in left instead of playing Ibanez/Jones when Gardner went down. Before that he could have DH’d most of the time. There was a spot for him.
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This I am not fine with. There was no way to know Gardner was going to be injured last offseason, so it is not easy to say, get Beltran just in case Gardner goes down after his 2011 season.
Ibanez and the DH spot did well, and I do not think you can say Beltran being in Ibanez’s spot turns the postseason around, given Ibanez’s heroics in the ALDS, and both Beltran and Ibanez hit HRs in the LCS, though Beltran hit .300 to Ibanez’s .231.
It makes more sense that to bring in Beltran, someone from Swisher, Granderson, and/or Gardner needed to go. I do not think there can be regret though with going the rotating DH and Ibanez though.
Is the full 2013 schedule out and no one told me…?
“That is fine if people preferred Beltran over Swisher.”
Cashman went into the 2011 offseason saying he had offense to spare (no, really). It was pretty obvious that this was Swisher’s last year in NY. So why not get something for him (a pitcher) while signing Beltran, who is better offensively, to a two year deal that would have expired just when the Yankees want to become austere?
To me, it fit their needs/plans to a glove.
“Where would you have wanted the Yankees to play Beltran?”
RF and DH….he and Swisher could have shared that role. Obviously when Gardner got hurt he would have played every day…..that or they could have traded Swisher for value instead of losing him for a draft pick.
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I can see your last point, if you preferred Swisher over Beltran, than fair point. As I mentioned, Yankees did well with their rotating DH spot, and Ibanez was effective in the ALDS so I am not seeing Beltran as a DH changing that much. But Beltran in place of Swisher, I can see that point.
This I am not fine with. There was no way to know Gardner was going to be injured last offseason, so it is not easy to say, get Beltran just in case Gardner goes down after his 2011 season.
Ibanez and the DH spot did well, and I do not think you can say Beltran being in Ibanez’s spot turns the postseason around, given Ibanez’s heroics in the ALDS, and both Beltran and Ibanez hit HRs in the LCS, though Beltran hit .300 to Ibanez’s .231.
It makes more sense that to bring in Beltran, someone from Swisher, Granderson, and/or Gardner needed to go. I do not think there can be regret though with going the rotating DH and Ibanez though.
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Beltran should have been signed instead of any of the DH candidates. It hedges against Swisher leaving in FA. The OF is Gardner/Grandy/Swisher/Beltran. The latter 3 rotate through DH. Grandy desperately needed rest which he did not get.
Beltran is a beast in the playoffs, he may not have fixed the entire postseason but we’d also still have him this year instead of a bunch of nothing.
I appreciate the info
Seems strange to see that single game tickets are put on sale as late as March.
I will be flying to NYC the last week of April, so you know I have to see at least 1 game
in person at the New Stadium. First trip back to NYC since 2004.
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WTP, good for you! They often put single games on sale late. Interesting to see what they do this year in view of fewer season ticket sales. However, you might find better seats on Stubhub or through the new hookup with Ticketmaster. The tickets that go on sale for single games usually aren’t that great. Depends on whether you are going to a weekend or day game and # of tix, and most of all, what the weather is like, as April can be plenty cold. Looks like you’ll have a Blue Jays Thursday-weekend, and Astros during that last week.
“That is fine if people preferred Beltran over Swisher.”
Cashman went into the 2011 offseason saying he had offense to spare (no, really). It was pretty obvious that this was Swisher’s last year in NY. So why not get something for him (a pitcher) while signing Beltran, who is better offensively, to a two year deal that would have expired just when the Yankees want to become austere?
To me, it fit their needs/plans to a glove
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Again, I see the Beltran over Swisher avenue, if people would have preferred him over Swisher.
“Again, I see the Beltran over Swisher avenue, if people would have preferred him over Swisher.”
It’s preferring two years of Beltran plus what you get for Swisher over one year of Swisher and the pick.
Beltran should have been signed instead of any of the DH candidates. It hedges against Swisher leaving in FA. The OF is Gardner/Grandy/Swisher/Beltran. The latter 3 rotate through DH. Grandy desperately needed rest which he did not get.
Beltran is a beast in the playoffs, he may not have fixed the entire postseason but we’d also still have him this year instead of a bunch of nothing.
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I do not see this, because the production at DH during the regular season was fine with the rotation. In the DH spot, the Yanks batted: .293, 29 HRs, .860 OPS, 100 RBIs. Beltran on the other hand batted: .269, 32 HRs, .842 OPS, 97 RBIs. Ibanez was a “beast” in the ALDS, he out OPS’d Beltran, though in fewer ABs. Now Beltran hit around .300 in the NLCS, but he was not in total beast mode like he and Ibanez were in the DS. They both did hit a homerun. His stats against righties (which is what the Tigers threw at the Yankees) were good, but not as good against lefties, that is during the regular season (OPS)
However, I can see if people wanted to upgrade over Swisher with Beltran. That makes sense.
But again, this is just my three or four cents.
I do not see this, because the production at DH during the regular season was fine with the rotation. In the DH spot, the Yanks batted: .293, 29 HRs, .860 OPS, 100 RBIs. Beltran on the other hand batted: .269, 32 HRs, .842 OPS, 97 RBIs. Ibanez was a “beast” in the ALDS, he out OPS’d Beltran, though in fewer ABs. Now Beltran hit around .300 in the NLCS, but he was not in total beast mode like he and Ibanez were in the DS.
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Those DH numbers include A-rod & Jeter’s .900 OPS in that spot, which would not be lost by acquiring Beltran. More importantly Beltran is better defensively than Ibanez, a better hitter, and signed for 2013!
Beltran hit .444 .542 .944 1.486 in the NLDS, and did it in twice the PA that Ibanez did. THat is because he is far more versatile hitter than Ibanez. Perhaps having that versatility could have lessened the ALDS, allowing the Yankees a better rotation in the ALCS.
“Beltran should have been signed instead of any of the DH candidates. It hedges against Swisher leaving in FA. The OF is Gardner/Grandy/Swisher/Beltran. The latter 3 rotate through DH. Grandy desperately needed rest which he did not get.”
this