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Pinch hitting: Adam Yafei

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 19, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Our first Pinch Hitter of the weekend is 23-year-old Adam Yafei from Brooklyn. Adam just completed his BBA in accounting at Baruch College and currently works at Brooklyn Veterans Hospital. In May, he and his wife will celebrate their fourth anniversary.

Adam says his favorite all-time Yankee is Mariano Rivera, and so his blog topic might come naturally. He calls this post – Durability: The Sixth Tool.

1,753.

That’s how many days were missed due to injury by Yankees players in 2012, ranking 2nd in all of baseball behind the Padres who led with 1,883. To put that in perspective, Yankees players missed a grand total of nearly five years’ worth of playing time due to injury this past season. In retrospect, it is actually quite amazing that the Yankees were still able to come away with an AL-best 95-67 record when considering the circumstances.

Let this offer a sliver hope to those who may not be particularly fond of some of the team’s offseason moves thus far. Perhaps the injury frequency will regress in 2013, but it certainly isn’t encouraging that amongst all teams, Yankees players, on average, have missed the most games per season when expanding the data to cover the past three seasons. With many of their older, high-impact players tacking on another year of “wear and tear,” it goes without saying that injury prevention will be a key factor in the team’s success or failure in the 2013 season.

Durability is a relatively underrated skill possessed by players and, as the title suggests, it is often overlooked by some talent evaluators. It is very easy to understand why it is important for teams to keep their starters on the field. A team gets zero production from a player who is physically unable to perform. As a result it is imperative for a team to minimize these occurrences since their replacements, usually bench players, are generally inferior.

Take Robinson Cano, for example. Since 2007, his first full season, he has played no less than 159 games in each season. That is pretty incredible in and of itself. That, coupled with his usual elite production at a premium position, provides the Yankees with a great deal of value and makes it even harder for the Yankees to lose him as a free agent at the end of the season. Cano’s durability, in my opinion, is a skill and the Yankees should look to identify possible traits or tendencies that foster durability in a player and factor it prominently in their assessment of a player’s “tools.”

Still unmentioned to this point, however, are the significant injuries suffered by top prospects in the Yankees farm system in 2012. Manny Banuelos (elbow), Jose Campos (elbow) and Austin Romine (back) all missed most of the season while Angelo Gumbs (elbow) missed two months and Mason Williams (shoulder) missed the last month or so. Of course not all of these injuries could’ve been prevented, but it is very important to try to limit significant injuries whenever possible so these elite talents can continue their ascension unimpeded.

One can only assume that the injuries and setbacks to the pitchers were part of the reason that the Yankees reassigned their long time pitching guru, Billy Connors, as well as minor league pitching coordinator Nardi Contreras. To replace Contreras, the team hired Gil Patterson, who was the pitching coordinator in Oakland the past five seasons and was actually drafted by the Yankees in June, 1975 with the seventh overall pick and served as a minor league pitching coach in the Yankees organization from 2005-2007.

Hopefully these changes will help the Yankees to keep their pitchers healthy and to resupply their major league team with some affordable talent in the coming years, especially at a time when the purse strings are a bit tighter than usual.

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130 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Adam Yafei”

  1. The Genius Maker January 19th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    I just want to point out that people talking about not paying Cano market value are making a mistake IMO. Cano is not only the best hitter on our team, he is the best defender on the team! Seriously, is he a better hitter or defender? He is an elite player PERIOD. Guys like that should be on the Yankees. I want a few of those guys and then a few specialty players (very good in a platoon or matchup guy or defender or pinch runner) and then you fill in with rookies. This is the way a high payroll team should be constructed to win. I would like to shorten the length with Cano, but I would pay him the market rate and then maybe a little extra.

  2. austinmac January 19th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Of course Cano is elite. The question is whether, under Hal’s stupid cap, a team can pay four players 60% plus of the payroll and pay a huge amount in his declining years all the while staying under a cap.

  3. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    “I would like to shorten the length with Cano, but I would pay him the market rate and then maybe a little extra.”

    Well sure….I don’t think anyone is against paying him his money in AAV…..the concern is basically all about the length…..and some team is likely going to be willing to pay him that 25 per for 7 or 8 years.

    Hamilton got 25 x 5 with a multitude of off and on field concerns….Cano plays a more premium position and has none of those.

    Cano is a premium player now…..but what you have to remember is that when you sign him you’re not signing what Cano has been ages 23-31…..you’re going to be signin him for what he is ages 31-39 most likely…..and that’s a big difference and is where the Yankees need to be careful.

    How much longer will he be the player he is now offensively and defensively? On an 8 year contract you may get 2 or 3 years of this cano and the rest a lesser player…..

    Consider that for what Cano would cost you could likely sign 2 or 3 good players to have the length comittment….perhaps if the Yanks are serious about this budget nonsense then they should do that instead of potentially getting involved with another long term mega deal

  4. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Good post from Adam BtW and I do think durability is sorta the 6th tool…..one reason that despite Hearhcotts ceiling you might favor Williams over him…..guys that get hurt tend to always get hurt. That said…..injuries can strike anyone at any time and change careers forever so it’s tough to predict

  5. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Good morning.

    I have long thought that the Yankees and all teams really should be investing more money to come up with ways to prevent injuries rather than to have to deal with them after they occur.

    And I concede right up front that there is no way to prevent some injuries.

    The area where the most attention seems needed is with our young arms who are within the “injury
    matrix”. They are most at risk and also perhaps the most easily influenced.

    There are people out there who specialize in helping to prevent injury. Very qualified ones.

    I think the Yankees should hire some of them to see if it reduces injury.

    The Yankees should also be employing all the latest info. and advancements in sports medicine to prevent injury.

    For example, do the Yankees even do baseline strength testing for their Pitchers ?

    After all, as the old saying goes, “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure,”

    My 2 cents

    :)

  6. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    It’s easy to say Is like to shorten Cano’s deal….anyone would….but Boras and Cano probably won’t like that idea too much and that’s all that matters. If they could sign Cano for 5/125 they’d probably do it today…..it’ll take more than that

  7. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    “Consider that for what Cano would cost you could likely sign 2 or 3 good players to have the length comittment….perhaps if the Yanks are serious about this budget nonsense then they should do that instead of potentially getting involved with another long term mega deal”

    I meant “half” the length of comittment in this part…..

  8. austinmac January 19th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    With respect to Cano, I think the overriding point most of us make is the team should negotiate now with him and determine if they are willing to pay what it takes. If they are not, they cannot let one of the premier players walk for a 32nd pick in the draft.

    Some team would trade a bunch for him. As Blake says, pick a lane.

  9. The Genius Maker January 19th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Cano is not getting an 8 year contract; this is created by Boras and sucked up by you guys.

  10. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Lets say next winter the Yankees have a choice between signing Cano to a 8/200 deal (cause that’s close to what it’ll take IMO) or signing both Prado and McCann to 4 year deals (lets say 4/50 each) then which should they do?

    Id say the latter given that the term is half as long and that you’re filling two spots with quality players for the same AAV

  11. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    The Genius Maker says:
    January 19, 2013 at 9:41 am
    Cano is not getting an 8 year contract; this is created by Boras and sucked up by you guys.

    You watch…he will get 7 or 8 years times 25. Too many teams will be involved and his agent is too good….

  12. The Genius Maker January 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    getting two or 3 pretty good players is not worth paying Cano; this is the part that is missed because the production drop off from elite to pretty good is the Grand Canyon compared to the bargain bins and the pretty good players. I would give Cano 135 for 5

  13. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Same way nobody thought Prince would get 200 million cause he’s fat…..or that EJax wouldn’t get a big deal….or that Soriano wouldn’t get more than he left on the table…..Boras will get Cano his money…..he’s gonna play the Dodgers and Yanks against each other and every other team that could use the best 2B in baseball…..which is pretty much everybody

  14. austinmac January 19th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Cano, absent an injury this year, will get at least seven years. At least. Eight is more likely.

    The elite get that.

  15. The Genius Maker January 19th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    “getting two or 3 pretty good players is not worth paying Cano”
    Let me rephrase that. The 2-3 players for the same cost as Cano is worth a lot less than Cano.

  16. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    “getting two or 3 pretty good players is not worth paying Cano; this is the part that is missed because the production drop off from elite to pretty good is the Grand Canyon compared to the bargain bins and the pretty good players. I would give Cano 135 for 5″

    I would too….but that won’t be enough ….look if Cano would do a 5 year deal I might give him 30 per….but i really can’t see that happening. Hamilton got 5 years at the same age with all sorts of baggage and concerns……no way Boras lets him sign for that IMO

  17. G. Love January 19th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    The thing about hoping last season was an injury aberration is great, but we’re starting the season with our 3b/DH out for at the minimum more than 1/2 a year & we’ve replaced him with an injury prone player based on recent years.

    Injuries are what they are. I never believe in using them as excuses but they do decimate a team.

    Last season we could lose Arod and still have Tex, Swisher, Grandy, Cano all healthy in their supposed primes and we still struggled to score runs and struggled to make the playoffs until Ibanez summoned Roy Hobbs.

    This season, we lack a lot of the depth we had last season. There’s no Chavez or Ibanez on this roster’s bench to break glass in case of emergency.

    The depth, to this point, is non existant.

    This season, more than any, one big injury to the offense could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

    I don’t think there’s some magic routine that teams can employ to stop injuries. The team’s with the biggest payrolls in the past like the Yankees, Red Sox and Mets all have had injury plagued seasons. There’s not some special stretching regimen or magic yoga pose that will make the team get less injured. Girardi goes so far out of his way to rest players and they still get hurt.

    I don’t even think youth mitigates the risk evidenced by Banuelos, Campos, Romine, Joba and Pineda all missing a lot of time last year.

    I just think they’re a part of the game, a good GM plans for them & I do think a durable player like Cano will get extra money in free agency because of that.

  18. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    “Let me rephrase that. The 2-3 players for the same cost as Cano is worth a lot less than Cano.”

    Not really….depends on who those players are. cano is about a 6 WAR player traditionally…..they could sign two 3 WAR players a lot cheaper like Prado and McCann and when you consider their catcher value is probably replacement level now they come out even …..and that’s assuming Cano stays that level for the bulk of a big contract….which he likely won’t

  19. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    The best predictor of future injury is past history of injury…..and the Yanks are carrying a ton of risk on this roster right now

  20. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Interesting topic, interesting post. One would suspect though health-wise, good chance things will not significantly improve at the ML level in 2013. Hopefully finally giving the boot to Nardi and Connors and signing Patterson will be a big help in getting the mL pitchers to progress but I’m not sure that fully addresses whether or not the pitchers are under the right training and conditioning regimen to better ensure they stay healthy. Although injuries will happen NYY needs to be at the top of the game in better ensuring the best practices are used to mitigate against this risk.

    At the big-league level, I would argue NYY will likely have more days missed due to injury and needed rest given their aging roster. We already know A-rod will miss at least 1/2 the season, and Jeter is coming back off a horrific injury and at the age of 38 he will need more rest to stay fresh. Even Jeter is human. Is Andy and Kuroda likely to sail through the season at their ages without being on the DL- especially Andy, I doubt it.

    Gardner needs to stay healthy for a change and Cano needs to stay healthy as usual for them to have any chance at all.

  21. blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Getting Cano to sign a 5 year deal is wishful thinking IMO….he’s already said they’d be no discounts and if he’d do that an extension would probably already be done. He hired Scott Boras for a reason…..he hired him to get every last drop out of his value as a FA on the open market.

    The part that sucks for the Yanks too is that Boras will likely drag it out to January…..meaning the Yanks will have to sit around letting other options sign elsewhere to save budget money for Cano……that is unless they just make him an offer early and move on if he doesn’t take it…,.

    .I really can’t see the Cano situation ending good for the Yabkees…..they didnt extend him and now there are really only 2 outcomes IMO 1) he leaves 2) they pay him way too much money……neither are good

  22. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    I heard part of an interviews Harold Reynolds did recently with Jeter yesterday…..he asked him about the ankle injury and whether he thought he’d be able to play the next day (because he always does)…..Jeter said….not this time…..that this was the 2nd time in his career he knew he was hurt bad (the other time being when he hurt his shoulder against Toronto that time.

  23. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Cano has NYY over a barrel and NYY willingly put themselves in this position.

    If Cano has an MVP-type season, NY will pay through the nose on a 8/200 mil contract or they will let him walk for a draft choice. That is the epitomy of stupid especially when he will be 31 starting that LT deal.

  24. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Genius – I’m surprised you don’t think someone will give Cano that length given that you recognize he’s an elite player.

    The guy is in his prime, plays a premium position, and is elite on both sides of the ball… there’s no reason to think he won’t get 7-9 years based on every other deal that’s been done in the last few off seasons.

    Every team in the league would want him…. and we can’t offer him bigger dollars in a shorter deal because it would completely tie our hands with Arod, Tex and CC still on the books.

    If the circumstances were different, I’d say try to get him for 4-5 years at $30 million or something well above the market.. but we legitimately can’t afford that.

  25. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    @RiverAveBlues: Posada to serve as Spring Training instructor; no plans for comeback http://t.co/o1Lx3oqT

  26. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    “If Cano has an MVP-type season, NY will pay through the nose on a 8/200 mil contract or they will let him walk for a draft choice. That is the epitomy of stupid especially when he will be 31 starting that LT deal.”

    Yes….the Yanks have sorta put themselves in a lose/lose situation with Cano

  27. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Also, good post Adam. I agree with blake that durability is sort of like the 6th tool.

    I have a feeling blake’s just coined another LoHud phrase.

  28. The Genius Maker January 19th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    blake January 19th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    “Let me rephrase that. The 2-3 players for the same cost as Cano is worth a lot less than Cano.”

    Not really….depends on who those players are. cano is about a 6 WAR player traditionally…..they could sign two 3 WAR players a lot cheaper like Prado and McCann and when you consider their catcher value is probably replacement level now they come out even …..and that’s assuming Cano stays that level for the bulk of a big contract….which he likely won’t
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    Two players combining their WAR is not equal to one player Blake…big difference in that you lose flexibility with roster spots and you can’t leave that player in.

    Shame, I don’t see teams giving 8 years too much unless the guy is a few years south of 30. Cano is north of 30

  29. The Genius Maker January 19th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    This will be on my blog but

    Fielder was 3 years younger than Cano and that was a bad signing. I don’t see Cano getting 8 years…6 sure, but 7 is unlikely, but of course possible with how poor some GM’s are. The key is making the mistake of trading Cano for a bunch of pretty good players making 7 mil; a year. I think most guys like that, unless they are great specialists (a guy who crushes righties) is a waste of money. 775 OPS guys that are decent defensively and hit all sides pretty equal are not worth 5 mil a year IMO. BTW, I hope Ichiro is rejuvenated because he played as good as we could have hoped for us and it was not even an 800 OPS; if you include his SB’s, his offense OPS was .811 with solid but not spectacular defense. That 7 mil for him would have been better spent elsewhere, especially in 2014. I would be very surprised if his OPS (including his SB’s) is over .800, in fact I would expect it to be more like 750 and wouldn’t be surprised if it were just above .700. It is a shame we don’t develop or attempt to develop some of our guys. Instead of playing Dickerson who was locked in well last year we let him go…the year before we let Justin Maxwell go and he had an OPS of .892 against lefties last year…isn’t that exactly what we want now? Instead we spend 7 mil on the same production and don’t develop anyone.

  30. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    “Two players combining their WAR is not equal to one player Blake…big difference in that you lose flexibility with roster spots and you can’t leave that player in.”

    Sure it’s not exactly the same….and everything equal youd always rather have the one player doing the value of two…..but when the one player makes twice as much money and for twice as long then than factors in as well when you have a budhet

  31. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I just think they’re a part of the game, a good GM plans for them & I do think a durable player like Cano will get extra money in free agency because of that.

    ———————

    I was on record as not being all that happy with the bench depth last year. I’m not sure they’ve improved it, but my hope is that this time around they’ll let the younger guys play when/if guys go down (I don’t love the idea of icing a guy like Adams or Nunez on the bench for long stretches but hopefully they find a way to make an impression when they are put in there….. if they go with Nix when/if Youk goes down…..ugh).

    But if Cano has another season of playing basically every day, Boras is definitely going to be using that to get him more money. After the Soriano deal, I’m starting to think this guy is going to get Cano more than $200 million. I’m beginning to feel like $225 isn’t a reach for Cano, especially when you look at the Pujols deal.

  32. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    “Fielder was 3 years younger than Cano and that was a bad signing. ”

    It really doesn’t matter if it was a bad signing…..Im not arguing 8/200 would be a good deal for Cano…..just that it will probably happen because teams are flush with cash and he’s really good.

  33. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    All the matters is the market and if Hamilton got 5 years at 25 per then Boras is going to demand at least 2 more years and probably 3. Cano is never hurt and is the premier player at his position by a wide margin….probably the biggest gap in baseball for a position

  34. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Shame, I don’t see teams giving 8 years too much unless the guy is a few years south of 30. Cano is north of 30

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    You saw the Pujols deal, right? A year older than Cano when he hit the market, not nearly the same kind of defender Cano is, and Cano plays a more valuable position. Pujols got TEN years. I just think you’re really underestimating the market.

  35. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Cano will be 31 years 5 months old when he starts his next contract. Lets say he gets 8 years at 200 million. If NYY signs him they will get at most 2-3 years of All star performance, a couple years of league average performance and 2-3 years of paying a guy 25 million that is basically one of the worst contracts in the game at that point.

    OTOH if NYY lets him walk for a stupid draft choice they will will lose a middle of the order bat at the age of 31+. NYY is caught between a rock and a hard place and it is if they just let it happen and once again are completely victimized by their own negligence, arrogance, lack of creativity and flexibility in proactively planning for this inevitable event.

  36. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    And the Pujols deal was signed before every team in the league got handed an extra $27.5 million to play with…. They’ll have that in 2014.

    I’m sad, guys lol.

  37. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    “Cano will be 31 years 5 months old when he starts his next contract. Lets say he gets 8 years at 200 million. If NYY signs him they will get at most 2-3 years of All star performance, a couple years of league average performance and 2-3 years of paying a guy 25 million that is basically one of the worst contracts in the game at that point.”

    Yea I think Cano will be the player he is now for 2 or 3 more years……the big question is how sharp his decline will be…..if its a gradual decline and he stays healthy then a big contract would be worth it if the Yankees would act like the Yankees…….however I do think Cano carries risk of a sharp decline when he hits his mid 30s because of his approach……

  38. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    The game is flush with money and there are definitely teams that will be all in on Cano. Obviously you would think with the obsession to win that owners for the LAD, DET and WAS has they would be three teams that would bid up the price to the detriment of NYY.

    I don’t think Cano will get a Pujols deal unless he wins the MVP. If he has a 2012 type-year, he will command around 200 mil.

  39. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    9/$214 for Fielder.. who also plays a less premium position and isn’t nearly as good defensively. The deals might ‘look bad’ in retrospect, but it’s never stopped anyone from handing them out year after year.

  40. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    @BNightengale: The #Cubs are on Justin Upton’s recently submitted no-trade list, so makes no sense why #Dbacks and #Cubs would engage in talks in 1st place

    Maybe cause Upton might like to hit at Wrigley more than Safeco…..the Dbacks would ask for Castro though

  41. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    The Dodgers actually probably have an 8/200 offer already prepared for Cano

  42. randy l. January 19th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    nice post adam

    i was just saying the other day that one of the things montero does is play.

    cervelli had the concussion problems , romine the back problems.

    posada had an unbelievable run of never being on the disabled list until very late in his career. i agree this could be looked at as a 6th tool. carl yaz once said that the ability to work hard at his game was also a tool. some have it some don’t.

    durability and the ability to work hard are linked. you don’t play everyday if you don’t work hard on conditioning. i have been down on the yankees and conditioning on this blog since 2007. the yankees are no better and no worse than any other team in baseball with conditioning which is pretty pathetic when you think of the financial resources they have.

    cutting edge conditioning would set the yankees apart from other teams and give them a strategic advantage. yet they don’t do anything extraordinary. it’s partly a matter of health consciousness.
    i doubt very much hal and hank are eating organic and into yoga and personal fitness. sports fitness starts with what a player puts in his body.

    individual yankees( who are extremely wealthy and can afford it) are i’m sure into what goes into their bodies. and then comes the actual conditioning and training. the yankees from the top don’t appear to be into cutting edge fitness.

    guys like ichiro take it to another level. i have a hunch jeter does to though he doesn’t talk about it. but i think as an organization the yankees are just ordinary in how they handle nutrition, fitness, and conditioning.

    i doubt minor league players are put through any special program that would give them an advantage over other organizations. this just isn’t going to keep them from leading the league in DL time.

  43. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Yes DET will pay big time in the 2nd half of that Fielder contract. The 1H of that over pay though will enable them to be perennial contenders for the championship.

    They have an owner that is obsesses with winning the WS and is willing to spend, they have a farm system that is turning out talent and they have the best pitcher and hitter in the game (IMO) in their primes.

    DET is a dangerous team and they will not be going away anytime soon.

  44. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    I don’t think Cano will get a Pujols deal unless he wins the MVP. If he has a 2012 type-year, he will command around 200 mil.

    —————–

    No I don’t think so either, but the Pujols deal was worse than the Fielder deal and someone still signed it lol.

    I just think we give some of these front offices too much credit. They’re not that smart. And tbh, they probably have a much better sense of what the return on their investment will be in terms of merchandising, ticket sales, etc. I think that’s a real x-factor.

    Some of these teams can put themselves in serious contention for a few years in a row by adding Cano (Dodgers, Rangers, Nats, Angels, Tigers, Philly).

    And the Dodgers are crazy.

  45. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    I think the Dodgers are gonna be all in on Cano…..cano, Kemp, and Agon would be unreal and they know it

  46. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    You know.. I’m surprised I keep hearing the Mets name pop up regarding Upton.

    If Sandy could swing that…That would really suck.

  47. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    @jcrasnick: Rest in peace Earl Weaver. One of the game’s great managers and most colorful characters. A true original. #Orioles

    RIP

  48. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    I think the Dodgers are gonna be all in on Cano…..cano, Kemp, and Agon would be unreal and they know it

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    They weren’t exactly terrible last year with an injured Kemp and only a partial season of Agon. I really would not be surprised to see a 2015 INF of Gonzalez, Cano, Andrus, and Hanley over there.

    I hate them.

  49. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    - ADAM -
    Appreciate your breakdown, (no pun), of the Yankee injuries. Interesting, concise, and easy to comprehend. All qualities in dire need around here. The major injuries to me, are the ones incurred by the Bushers. There are back-ups to the regulars on the 25 Man Roster, should one of them go down. There is No back-up to a Blue Chipper suffering a major injury, that results in months of lost game time experience. Thanks again.

  50. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Of course, the Rangers INF could also look pretty insane with Cano, Andrus and Profar.

  51. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Oh.. and the Tigers: Fielder, Cano, Cabrera… and I think they have a really young SS in the system.

    F*ck.

  52. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    - ADAM -
    Appreciate your breakdown, (no pun), of the Yankee injuries.

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    :lol:

    Nice.

  53. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    I think the Dodgers are gonna be all in on Cano…..cano, Kemp, and Agon would be unreal and they know it…

    For sure… If I’m Cano I got to be thinking LA is a nice play to play the game, sun and beaches and money to spend… a great life style if you can fund it and with a 200 mil deal finalized it should help in taking away some of the financial stress the typical Californian deals with….

  54. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    I don’t see how the Mets can get Upton without it being counterproductive for them….they probably aren’t gonna compete in that division before Upton is a FA

  55. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Yea the Tigers will be in too….just too many teams for Boras to not get Cano paid

  56. blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    I do think Cano would probably prefer to stay with the Yanks…..but they’ll have to get close to what everyone else is offering and it wouldn’t shock me if LA did what they did with Greinke and just blow everyone else out of the water

  57. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    I don’t see how the Mets can get Upton without it being counterproductive for them….they probably aren’t gonna compete in that division before Upton is a FA

    ———————-

    I agree for the most part, I was just thinking they might do it to drum up some more interest for the next two years since they’re having such a hard time with ticket sales. Not a lot of draw to CitiField after the last couple of years. Those fans have been put through the ringer.

  58. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    blake January 19th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    I do think Cano would probably prefer to stay with the Yanks…..but they’ll have to get close to what everyone else is offering and it wouldn’t shock me if LA did what they did with Greinke and just blow everyone else out of the water

    ————————-

    I dunno exactly how these guys minds work, but if your Cano, are you okay with being paid less than Arod on a yearly basis? Guys measure themselves up against other players all the time.. if I’m Cano I’m like ‘this guy isn’t even playing, so let’s not worry about how you might hate this deal in 4 years.’

  59. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    I still say having 1\2 of that Soriano contract Deferred is insane. Boras put one over on his own client this time. I understand this does Not impact the AAV, but Soriano should get another agent. He woulda been better off taking the Yankee QO, and becoming a free agent again in 2014. In this economic climate, you take All the money you can get up-front.

  60. Shame Spencer January 19th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    I still say having 1\2 of that Soriano contract Deferred is insane. Boras put one over on his own client this time. I understand this does Not impact the AAV, but Soriano should get another agent. He woulda been better off taking the Yankee QO, and becoming a free agent again in 2014. In this economic climate, you take All the money you can get up-front.

    ———————–

    It’s not like they can decide not to pay him… he probably has plenty of money already so why not defer it to years when you might not be making as much (if you’re making any at all – guy could get injured and still be collecting almost $10 million dollars). It’s like having a savings account.

  61. randy l. January 19th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    at some point yankee ownership should write off the bad contracts written under a different CBA and move on if they really want to be the yankees.

    i’m an early adopter in a lot of things and quite frankly i don’t give a sH%T what the yankees do with cano. the reason is that i feel like the team i’ve rooted for since the mid fifties is being held hostage by a buffoon ownership and management.

    imploding sooner might be the quickest way to get back on track with new ownership and management.

  62. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    “Good post from Adam BtW and I do think durability is sorta the 6th tool….”

    As anyone ever examined the correlation (if any) of injury/heath with age?

    For example, it would seem reasonable to believe that Cano will remain less durable over the remainder of his career than he has been to date.

  63. blake January 19th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    “at some point yankee ownership should write off the bad contracts written under a different CBA and move on if they really want to be the yankees.”

    This

  64. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    The NBA did allow a one-time amnesty of a bad contract under their new CBA. It’s incredible to me that the MLB didn’t or that the MLBPA didn’t force the issue.

  65. UnKnown January 19th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Hockey Day in MN today. People are pumped out of their minds about the Wild and Parise.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Joe’s banned candy and ice cream from the clubhouse.

    Someone should do a study on whether sugar deprivation decreases batspeed and contact ability.

  67. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    “Someone should do a study on whether sugar deprivation decreases batspeed and contact ability.”

    Or the ability to value offense from the catching position.

  68. Against All Odds January 19th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    R.I.P. Earl Weaver

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Unknown, and well they should be. Minnesota has a good looking club, and JP’s kid.

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Good idea, Rich. Maybe we should feed Stewie Reese’s or Mounds. Of course, if he could hit, he might be focusing too much on offense and ignoring what’s really important.

  71. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Weaver passed into the etheric world? Happy travels, Earl!

  72. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    JAP

    I’m thinking that Girardi may be living by his own rules. :(

  73. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    I used to get a kick out of Weaver turning the brim of his cap around when he got in an umpire’s face.

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    I’ve never been a fan of exchanging “depth” for a single great player. That always seems to backfire. I also think Cano will age well. If we don’t pull the trigger on something like Upton, Cano’s going to have another year of no protection. To survive, he’s going to have to develop more discrimination.

  75. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Craig Biggio hit 26 HR and posted an OPS of .792 at second base at age 39. He played at 40 and he played at 41.

    If I’m Boras I point to Biggio’s career. As an elite 2B, my client should be signed through his age 40 season.

    And it’s gonna happen.

  76. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    - FAVORITE CANDY BARS -

    (1) MARS BAR – Gooey and Absolutely delicious.

    (2) SNICKERS – If I’m Really hungry, this is the one I go for. Filling and tasty. Don’t like ‘em frozen.

    (3) GOOD-N-PLENTY – Licorice adds something the others lack. Like shaking ‘em in the box.

    (4) ABBA-ZABBA – Taffy pull anybody?

    (5) CHUNKY – “Big, Big, Big, fudge chuky” Chocolate ENERGY boost.

    – ABSOLUTE WORST CANDY BAR OF ALL-TIME -

    (1) 3 MUSKETEERS – Tastes like a chocolate covered cotton ball.

  77. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Charleston Chew is pretty bad.

  78. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I love Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups more than anything – can eat them all day. And Sour Patch Kids.

  79. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    What Biggio did at 39-41 doesn’t offer much guidance on what any given player will do almost a decade later.

  80. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    I like Reese’s, but the flavor enjoyment can be replicated at home pretty easily.

  81. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    But Biggio’s production at 39 at second base is a precedent Boras can use to negotiate contract length. Contract AAV will be higher than Biggio’s obviously.

  82. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    And Cano has no injury history – literally none.

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Rich, we should consider ourselves fortunuate that we got a championship out of his tenure as manager.

    I really, really, really thought he was going to be this cutting edge guy who would bring along the young pitching and catching, and that we would build an empire based on great young pitching and the circular lineup that is our historic model.

  84. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    I trade Cano ASAP. Who the hell needs the drama come Winter 2014?

  85. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Bottom line is Cano will get an 8 year deal at least. And that’s what Boras and Cano are looking for. There is no way around it.

  86. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Best bar: Coconut Secret
    Best chocolate: Sol Vitality Raw Chocolate Truffles

  87. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Why is Biggio more of “precedent” than Roberto Alomar?

    To cite either is just smoke and mirrors. It’s impossible to project what a player will do at 39 when he is not yet 30.

    I realize that Boras will snow some GM, but it’s a very unreasonable risk.

  88. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Well if the Yankees don’t build a lineup around Robinson Cano, then who? I think they’re committed to Cano. He does a ton of work in the DR with baseball and is well liked by Dominican players around the league. He is the face of the NYY in the DR and that translates into dollars and players.

  89. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    And he is a perennial all-star, gold glove contender, HR derby champ.

  90. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    I used to mess around with those Giant Sweet Tarts, but those suckers will crack your lips like nobody’s bees-wax.

  91. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    MVP contender

  92. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Pruf

    I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, and I was wrong about Girardi. I had passionate discussions on other boards about why it was “critical” that they hire him over Mattingly.

    I am an idiot for saying that.

    So when facts change, so do I.

  93. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    I agree with those who believe that Cano will get a huge payday.

    Either from the Yankees or someone else.

    He is not going to come cheap. Boras will have a relatively easy time getting a guy like Robbie what he wants.

    If the Yankees are indeed serious about keeping their budget under control they are going to have to
    rethink the way they do buisness.

    Their extension and trade policies will need to be rethought.

    ;)

  94. randy l. January 19th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    “Someone should do a study on whether sugar deprivation decreases batspeed and contact ability.”

    j.a.p.

    it’s laughable that girardi bans candy and ice cream because it’s simplistic.

    the real point is health, fitness, and physical performance.

    here’s what he should have said as far as candy:

    “Dark chocolate and cocoa are rich in cell-protecting antioxidants — natural compounds found in fruits, vegetables, grains and nuts. Read what scientists are studying regarding antioxidants and cardiovascular disease, premature aging and can*er.”

    http://www.allchocolate.com/health/basics/

    it’s the same with coffee. there’s “dead”coffee that most people drink simply for the caffeine and there’s fresh brewed organic coffee that’s loaded with antioxidants and other good stuff.

    of course, banning dunkin donuts unhealthy coffee in the clubhouse wouldn’t go over well with them being a major yankee sponsor.

    banning isn’t the answer anyway. give them an alternative that results in better performance over a longer period of time.

    nutrition is just a beginning. the players are adults too. they have to make their own decisions. if they want a short career that’s on them. the yankees can encourage them to make the good choices however.

    plus you think a player brought up with a focus on nutrition designed for fitness and performance is going to put illegal black market chemical concoctions in his body that will likely be a time bomb that gets him later in his life. yeah, some still will, but i think a team that emphasizes a cutting edge nutritional and conditioning program will give players a heads up on making the right choices.

  95. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Never had a “Coconut Secret”.

  96. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Rich, I was similarly adamant that he be the guy. Got my wish :(

    In 2011, I did fear he would cost us Montero. This happened. Not much I can do about it, though :)

  97. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Look, Robinson Cano has literally zero history of injury. He stays on the field – all the time. He produces at an all-star level, every year. He’s a HOF candidate. I would actually prefer if the Yankees give him a lower AAV and a longer contract length.

    I would prefer 10 years, 200 million over 8 years 184.

  98. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Randy-

    I totally agree.

    Things like nutrition, flexibility and balance training, and conditioning should all be an integral part of what the Yankees do.

    And their programs, whatever they may be, should be 2nd to none.

    ;)

  99. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Coconut Secret approximates a “candy bar” in only the most superficial way. There is no sugar, or even agave in it. There is, however, “coconut sugar”, so you get an energetic boost but a slow burn and no spike. I am now used to “candy” that isn’t sweet, from the point of view of many. If it’s that sugary taste you’re after, these won’t satisfy.

  100. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    So a player can chew tobacco, but NO Candy or Ice Cream are permitted. As my Dad would say, “Consistency, thou art a jewel”.

  101. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Over Christmas holiday, after leaving a bar with my brother, I bought 3 Boston Cream doughnuts, 3 Jelly donuts and 3 chocolate chip chunky cookies. I mauled through those suckers. Dunkin’ Donuts is heaven on Earth.

    You really need to watch this YouTube clip Donny:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S6eUFbOfIU

  102. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    randy i; your 10.51 post expressed my sentiments exactly

    except for rooting from the mid 50s- little before my time…

  103. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Pruf

    With regard to Montero, he was mentioned in several trade rumors over a period of years published by guys who carry Cashman’s water. So even though I didn’t want to believe it, I think, looking back, the handwriting was on the wall. Sadly, they made a trade that carried more risk than any of the rumored deals.

    I honestly don’t know if Girardi was the catalyst or the confirming agent.

  104. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    If I owned the Yanks, I’d hire either a Feldenkrais or Alexander Technique expert. I’d be somewhat wary of using this on pitchers however, because what they do effectively may be based on some kind of unique “distortion” of kinesthetic self use. If it was someone like Chris Garcia, though, who just could not stay healthy, no matter what, I’d risk the re-training in the offseason and see where that took him.

  105. yankee21 January 19th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    rich in nj; I too was an adamant supporter of hiring Joe G over Mattingly.

    I knew within a year I was dead wrong- they hired the wrong guy.

  106. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    That said, there is no program or prescription that can make up for the dedication and determination
    of the individual. For that inner striving to be the best.

    The other items are merely adjuncts designed to help.

    JMHO

  107. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Same here. I wanted Joe G over Mattingly.

    confession complete.

    :)

  108. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Pacino’s Tango in “Scent of a Woman”, showed he does have moves.

  109. FiretheUMPIRE January 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Yeah he can really dance :lol: That stood out in that clip. It’s so corny it’s easy to miss though.

  110. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    ML ballpalyers sometimes find out the hard way that talent alone is not sufficient to keep you at the head of the class.

    It takes dedication and tons of hard work in addition to the talent to get there and stay there.

  111. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Yea, for an old dude, he still moves around on the dance floor effortlessly.

  112. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Randy,

    That candy business was a red flag that the guy is a control freak. I agree it’s simplistic, but I remember Herbie Brooks used to insist his teams kept their home thermostats at a certain temperature, and Herbie was brilliant. I don’t think Girardi is.

    Yes, there’s coffee and then there’s coffee. I like mine with Skytop Farms organic, grass fed, unhomogenized milk. I do drink too much of it, though, even the good stuff.

  113. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    To me, in that clip, he looks like an old Downey Jr.

  114. Rich in NJ January 19th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    So Pacino is going to play Paterno?

    yankee21

    I feel your pain…

  115. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    I have Never liked coffee. That stuff is rot-gut. I like Hot tea, sweetened wth Honey. Old broadcasting bromide that is used to keep the throat and pipes in order.

  116. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    JAP-

    My view is that you are basically what your genetic endowment is.

    But here is no question in my mind that you can enhance it, or diminish it by what you eat, what you do or don’t do, and how you think and feel.

    :)

  117. blake January 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    @BNightengale: @TarYank6 The Yankees are NOT on Upton’s revised No-trade list. It’s #RedSox, #Mariners,#Cubs,#BlueJays

    Wally says they are…..who is right?

  118. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    I like Pacino, but his Richard III was a whiff, because he didn’t understand how to scan the verse (he’s since improved, with his Shylock work, etc). He did create a neat documentary though that covered the subject of working on the play and the role. Really good street stuff…giving Shakespeare back to the groundlings and out of the clutches of surburbanites (and the realm of strictly academics), where he belongs, in all his sinew and bawdy glory… but I recall John Barton, the verrrrry eccentric dramaturg/director taking a swipe at Pacino, who entitled his experimental piece “Looking for Richard.”

    Barton cracked…”…and he’ll NEVER find him.”

  119. blake January 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    I my favorite candy bar is just a simple Hershey bar of milk chocolate

  120. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    “I feel young”. James T Kirk in “The Search For Spock”. Overacted of course.

  121. blake January 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    I don’t think I could function without performance enhancing coffee

  122. J. Alfred Prufrock January 19th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    MTU, I agree with the Taoists, though, that you can move beyond the DNA with special “mystery” modalites of the body and its energetic “circles”, “meridians,” etc. and kind of fool with the genetic code and actually alter it. But you have to really be radical, or it doesn’t work.

    I am getting too far afield from baseball so I’ll just say “later,” for now.

    :D

  123. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Hershey is a little plain for me. If it’s just the chocolate I’m looking for, I’ll go for a mounds bar. I like the chocolate in their candy bar.

  124. Tar January 19th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Nice post Adam!

    “This season, more than any, one big injury to the offense could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.”

    GLove

    I have the same feeling of foreboding as well. It’s why I would have went the “rebuilding year” route.

    Maybe rebuilding is plan b this year? (Assuming that they are planning anything other than 189.)
    Once the wheels start to come off, that’s when Brian will start to “cash” in his chips. Kind of fits their M.O.

    Heels time Blake.

  125. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    JAP-

    Too bad Bret the Hitman is no longer here because I enjoyed talking nutrition with him.

    I agree, and I think he would too, that what you eat can definitely affect you right down to the genetic level.

    Either enhancing or diminishing their effectiveness and expression.

    But my layman’s view is that may be true but that the overall genetic endowment cannot be similarly influenced.

    Some folks are just simply born with exceptional DNA photocopiers of great durability.

    Others the exact opposite.

    Most right in the middle.

    I do try to stay balanced in what I eat as well. Generally going to neither extreme.

    Seems to work for me.

    ;)

  126. randy l. January 19th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    “I don’t think I could function without performance enhancing coffee”

    blake-

    me neither :)

    just make it with organic fair trade coffee beans, grind it fresh, and use a french press

  127. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    And I will say that the “shell” that the good Lord has given us is miracuous no matter what way you look at things.

    :)

  128. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Randy-

    Whatever you are doing seems to work since you can still those Pistols at age 63.

    Of course it also helps that the genetic endownment given to you by your Father, in particular, is pretty damn fine.

    ;)

  129. DONNYBROOK January 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    OK, you guys talked me into it. I’m gonna order one of those Jack LaLanne Juicer’s. That dude was in his late 60′s, and every year would swim in the Frisco Bay with row boats tied to him.

  130. MTU January 19th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    proximo hilo ——>


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