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Best case, worst case: Second base

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

For the Yankees best player, the best-case scenario is so high that he just might price himself out of the Yankees future plans. It’s the position that brings short-term security and long-term uncertainty.

Best-case scenario
Dollars and sense
At age 30, coming off three straight seasons finishing top six in MVP voting, Robinson Cano’s best-case scenario has something to do with being the best player in the American League. He’s a Gold Glove defender, a Silver Slugger hitter and a legitimate MVP candidate in his prime. Improve with runners in scoring position, move past last year’s struggles against lefties, and Cano could legitimately have the best season of any hitter in the American League.

But if we’re talking about the best-case scenario for the next 12 months, it’s all about what happens in November and December. Cano is a homegrown force; a middle-of-the-order slugger who plays a defensive position more accustomed to No. 8 hitters without much pop. He’s been durable and, until last year, had a pretty good track record in the playoffs. If the Yankees could lock him into a reasonable long-term contract — good luck with that — they could have second base figured out through the end of the decade. Might be impossible given his open-market value, but finding a way to fit Cano into the Yankees financial plans would be ideal.

Of course, it wouldn’t hurt to have Corban Joseph and David Adams repeat last year’s offensive results. Joseph showed surprising power last season, and Adams finally moved beyond a lingering ankle injury to restore his prospect status. In a best-case scenario, those two could become offensive second base options almost immediately (and certainly by next year if Cano prices himself out of the Yankees plans). There’s also Angelo Gumbs to consider. Long touted for his athleticism and potential — a good mix of speed and power, especially for a middle infielder — an injury free season could solidify his status as the Yankees top infield prospect.

Worst-case scenario
Small numbers and a big number
Two signs of trouble from Cano’s 2012 season: .239/.309/.337 vLHP and .207/.333/.379 with two outs and runners in scoring position. Make no mistake, Cano was terrific last season, but his struggles against lefties were surprising, and he was especially bad in RISP situations early in the season. It’s silly to think Cano will suddenly have a terrible year at the plate — he could slump quite a bit and still have an OPS well above .850 — but it’s possible that he could put up terrific overall numbers while still experiencing a handful of situational struggles that keep him from being as productive as those overall numbers suggest.

But, of course, even a down season from Cano won’t keep him from demanding — and getting — a huge contract from someone in the offseason. Cano could take a mild step back this season, and still price himself well outside of the Yankees spending plans. Or, perhaps it’s an even worse scenario to have the Yankees cave to his demands and give an Alex Rodriguez-sized contract that eventually blows up into an Alex Rodriguez-sized disaster.

The willingness to cave to Cano might grow more likely if Joseph and Adams take a step back. Joseph never hit more than six homers in a season before he hit 16 last year. What happens if his power slips in his first full-season attempt at Triple-A? Adams’ strong Double-A season wasn’t quite a full season — limited to 86 games — and he still hasn’t faced a single Triple-A pitch. If those Double-A numbers don’t translate and Joseph takes a step back, the Yankees won’t have a fallback plan at second. Add in another injury for Gumbs, and a sloppy infield adjustment for Rob Refsnyder, and the Yankees could be left without Cano and without an in-house replacement on the horizon.

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93 Responses to “Best case, worst case: Second base”

  1. G. Love January 24th, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    At this point the only RH hitter DH/OF left out there who hasn’t retired I’m interested in is Manny Ramirez. Plus, if Youk annoys us, Manny can slap him around. Club needs a Youk enforcer internally unless Joba plans to throw socks at him in the locker room.

  2. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    blake says:
    January 24, 2013 at 6:09 pm
    JF,

    Wanna clarify something with you. So with the new CBA the only way the Yankees will actually get revenue sharing money is if they get under 189 and also if some of the teams in the largest 15 markets actually have revenues low enough so that they would receive it? Then those teams refund the money to the payors……but if none of the biggest market teams actually get revenue sharing then the Yanks would get nothing correct?

  3. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Id rather have Soriano than Manny….if Theo will get real on a price

  4. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    I’d love to see the Rays in Montreal.

  5. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    I wonder if GGBG could have landed Upton!

  6. RMS January 24th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Sign Manny, he fits well in the old age group Cashman seems to prefer.

  7. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    RadioKev says:
    January 24, 2013 at 6:28 pm
    I’d love to see the Rays in Montreal.

    They had their chance

  8. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Id offer Theo….Adam Warren and 8 million dollars towards Sorianos contract. That more than pays for Hairston and gives them a decent pitching prospect

  9. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    @DanBarbarisi: Joe Torre says Yankees expressed reservations re: Andy Pettitte pitching in WBC. He still could join team -they have until feb 20 to decide

  10. Nick in SF January 24th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    “They had their chance”

    Putting aside the fact that you and I would both like to see the Rays move to Charlotte, lots of cities get multiple chances at having franchises over the years. If at first you don’t succeed… but that might not translate well to French Canadian.

  11. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    “Putting aside the fact that you and I would both like to see the Rays move to Charlotte, lots of cities get multiple chances at having franchises over the years”

    True….but not sure Monreal is best option….

  12. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    “Putting aside the fact that you and I would both like to see the Rays move to Charlotte, lots of cities get multiple chances at having franchises over the years”

    True….but not sure Monreal is best option….
    ———

    Well, let’s say they need to stay within close proximity to the East coast, where makes more sense? Montreal is a big city. Here’s a list of the largest cities in North America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....th_America

    Montreal is the next largest city without a baseball team.

  13. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    I just think that giving Cano the kind of deal that Cano is going to be looking for is going to be an epic mistake for this team going forward.

  14. Jerkface January 24th, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Correct, blake. The market disqual program only refunds revenue sharing if one of the top 15 market teams actually qualifies. tor, washington, and the braves are the 3 big teams who got revenue sharing if I recall. They are also highly likely to not receive any in the next 3 years. That means no rebate for the yankees. Oakland is of course a part of it too but they are immune if they don’t get a stadium

  15. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    The Carolinas could be a fit… would the Braves get a say? Like the Sox would if they wanted to put a team in like Rhode Island or something?

  16. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    “Well, let’s say they need to stay within close proximity to the East coast, where makes more sense? Montreal is a big city. Here’s a list of the largest cities ”

    Charlotte

  17. tomingeorgia January 24th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    Charlotte is an obvious place for the Rays, except on NASCAR Sundays.

  18. blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    JF,
    So basically the Yanks best chance to get rev sharing money is if a team like the White Sox or somebody drops out of the top revenues and qualifies……the benefit to this whole budget thing just seems like a big oversell. They could have lopped 30 million off the payroll and saved some money any time they wanted

  19. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    I think you make more $ in Montreal than Charlotte, no offense intended. But, there is something to be said for keeping an AL East team towards the South on the East coast.

  20. theREALkevin January 24th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Wow I didn’t realize Cano was that bad against lefties last year. That’s a pretty brutal line for someone with his talent.

  21. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    I’m not giving away a good young Pitcher in Adam Warren for Soriano.

    No thanks.

  22. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    January 24, 2013 at 6:55 pm
    Charlotte is an obvious place for the Rays, except on NASCAR Sundays.

    Their AAA team is couple hrs away in Durham

  23. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    theREALkevin January 24th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
    Wow I didn’t realize Cano was that bad against lefties last year. That’s a pretty brutal line for someone with his talent.
    ——–

    The RISP numbers are more frightening, in my opinion. And sign that guy to a mega-deal, and build your team around him?

  24. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    It was once thought that northern New Jersey could support a team. I would love for the Rays to move there as a fallback rooting option in case Hal continues is payroll obfuscation and suboptimal management. #not happening

  25. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    January 24, 2013 at 6:59 pm
    I’m not giving away a good young Pitcher in Adam Warren for Soriano.

    Warren is a Tarheel …but he’s not that great and probably doesn’t have a future with the Yanks other than just AAA depth IMO

  26. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    You don’t need a big market, you need a market that’s going to give a crap about baseball. That’s not Montreal – not after what Jeff Loria did to them. Charlotte makes sense, Indianapolis (while not on the East Coast) might make some sense as well. In the end it will come down to what city is willing to build them a stadium.

  27. Mordot11 January 24th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Letting this guy go would be both a ridiculous decision and a move reminiscent of the Rays. The Yankees can not operate like a small market team while gouging fans on parking, concessions, and ticket prices.

  28. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Cano has always hit lefties well…..he was dreadful last year but hopefully that was just a flukey thing that’ll correct in 2013.

    If it doesn’t however….and you have two years straight where he struggled against LHP then I do start to worry and that greatly affects his value IMO

  29. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Lot of Braves fans in the Carolina’s that would probably cheer for an AL team in Charlotte ….baseball is real big in NC and SC at the amateur level

  30. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Chip’s right. Look at the Packers (not that they can duplicate that, but the principle is sound)

  31. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Chip,

    I think all you need is a big, wealthy city and a team that wins games. Butts in seats. I don’t think the city is so scarred as to not accept a sports team… seems like a stretch.

  32. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    “Letting this guy go would be both a ridiculous decision and a move reminiscent of the Rays.”

    Would you feel that way when/if he is 36, is OPSing high-.700-low .800s, making $22-$23m a year and his contract has 4 or 5 years remaining?

    The Rays would have either extended again at an earlier age or traded him for young, cost-controlled players. Unless the Yankees shop ’til they drop again, they need to consider that model.

  33. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Blake-

    I’m so sure Warren as no future on the Yankees.

    I’d like to find out before we trade him away.

  34. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    MTU,
    Yea….I just think Soriano might be the best option left unless Cashman has a Chase Headley up his sleeve or something.

    He could be the primary DH as he hits RHP and LHP (.800+ OPS vs both last year) and he could spell Ichiro in RF vs LHP.

  35. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    And of course Soriano is 37 so he meets the over 35
    age requirement

  36. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    @DanBarbarisi: Brian Cashman says Yanks had cursory conversations on Justin Upton, but were never really in on him.

    Unreal

  37. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Chip,

    I think all you need is a big, wealthy city and a team that wins games. Butts in seats. I don’t think the city is so scarred as to not accept a sports team… seems like a stretch.
    ———————

    Tampa and Miami are both big cities with plenty of money and the teams didn’t draw regardless of how well they played. Heck, the Yankees won 95 games and didn’t draw last year.

    Again, I think the determining factor won’t be market, it won’t be the passion of the fan base, it will be which municipality is willing to build a stadium for the ball club.

  38. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Pardo would have been a great add…..should have traded Granderson last year for him

  39. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    @pgammo: As someone who goes back to Bellingham with Baseball America, I toast their wisdom picking UNC no. 1 and featuring fave 3B Colin Moran.

    +1 to Peter

  40. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Dbacks will now keep Jason Kubel, GM Kevin Towers says.

  41. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    “@DanBarbarisi: Brian Cashman says Yanks had cursory conversations on Justin Upton, but were never really in on him.”

    Cashman: Kevin, I’d really love to have Upton but the owner took my car keys away since my last disaster of a big trade.

    Towers: It must be tough to field a team with close to $200m to spend.

    Cashman: That’s the point. I can’t spend anything anymore.

    Towers: You think you have it bad? Do you know what it is like to have a manager who cares more about grit than ability.

    Cashman: Um, yeah…

  42. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    My problem with Soriano isn’t this year – it’s next year. You’ll have him and Alex under contract, both of whom should be DHing.

  43. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
    Id rather have Soriano than Manny….if Theo will get real on a price

    ————————–
    just what they need another player who K’s more the he gets hits

  44. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Chip says:
    January 24, 2013 at 7:23 pm
    My problem with Soriano isn’t this year – it’s next year. You’ll have him and Alex under contract, both of whom should be DHing.

    That’s true….but I do think you could probably move Soriano next winter if the Cubs are paying most of his salary

  45. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Rich…

    Pretty funny.

    The difference is that I don’t think Girardi calls the shots in NY like Gibson does in Arizona.

  46. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    “————————–
    just what they need another player who K’s more the he gets hits”

    The good options are gone….Soriano is the best of what’s left perhaps…..

  47. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    I say it’s 50/50 for the NYY making the playoffs this year

  48. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Chip says:
    January 24, 2013 at 7:23 pm
    My problem with Soriano isn’t this year – it’s next year. You’ll have him and Alex under contract, both of whom should be DHing.

    That’s true….but I do think you could probably move Soriano next winter if the Cubs are paying most of his salary
    —————

    Assuming Sori has a decent season and is willing to accept a trade I guess.

  49. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: @TarYank6 They were never in on him. Talked briefly. Yanks had nothing of interest to offer.

    I just don’t buy this based on what he was traded for….now ultimately Towers may just have wanted the 3B in Prado that he could plug in now…..but the Yanks have value to offer enough to at least talk about it

  50. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
    “————————–
    just what they need another player who K’s more the he gets hits”

    The good options are gone….Soriano is the best of what’s left perhaps…..
    ———————————
    add him to the loooooong line of over 30 club, just what they need

  51. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: @TarYank6 They were never in on him. Talked briefly. Yanks had nothing of interest to offer.

    I just don’t buy this based on what he was traded for….now ultimately Towers may just have wanted the 3B in Prado that he could plug in now…..but the Yanks have value to offer enough to at least talk about it
    —————

    Towers spent a year with the Yankee front office – my guess is that if there was something there that knocked his socks off he would have asked the Yankees about it.

  52. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:27 pm
    @AndrewMarchand: @TarYank6 They were never in on him. Talked briefly. Yanks had nothing of interest to offer.

    I just don’t buy this based on what he was traded for….now ultimately Towers may just have wanted the 3B in Prado that he could plug in now…..but the Yanks have value to offer enough to at least talk about it

    ————————————-
    wanted Pardo here for a time

  53. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Blake-

    It is unreal to think Cashman was barely in on JU.

    I didn’t necessarily expect them to get him but I certainly expected an a strong effort.

    Looks like Randy was right when he said the Yankees just backed away from the table.

    They were never even players.

    Piss poor.

  54. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    “Towers spent a year with the Yankee front office – my guess is that if there was something there that knocked his socks off he would have asked the Yankees about it.”

    I think he wanted the now player in Prado….the rest of it the Yankees could have matched or beat. The Yanks didnt have a big league 3b to offer like Prado and I guess that’s what KT wanted….they want to compete now

  55. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Blake -

    Makes sense – If you’re going to trade your best player you need to get back someone who can play right away.

  56. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    Chip

    I took a little “comedic” license. :)

  57. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    “Makes sense – If you’re going to trade your best player you need to get back someone who can play right away.”

    Unless you’re trading your best player for a rental….they need to sign Prado….if they can then it at least makes it more understandable

  58. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Chip-

    That’s exactly why there definitely should have been something that could have interested Towers.

    Our Farm is just shy of being in the top 10.

    If some of our guys do well this year we’ll be a top 5 next year.

    I’m with Blake I don’t buy that at all.

  59. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Prado is almost 30. He’s good but he’s not exactly a youngster.

  60. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    NYY are in cruise control… and it looks to stay this way for a couple of years

  61. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    I wonder if it would be worth it for the Yankees to try and swing a deal for Mat Gamel? He’s never become what people thought he would, but he’s still what – mid 20s; LH bat with some power.

  62. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    The Yanks may have just decided to go with what they have…..hope their prospects have a good first half ….And who shakes loose in July….Headley or Stanton could be available at the deadline and if some prospects perform they could have enough then to make a move of they wanted…..of course the Yanks rarely do anything at the trade deadline anymore

  63. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:35 pm
    Prado is almost 30. He’s good but he’s not exactly a youngster.

    ——————————————-
    would be in the younger third of the NYY

  64. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    MTU -

    Yeah the Yankees have a strong farm system but the talent is all at AA or below.

    Towers was giving away his best player – he can’t sell that to his fans by saying that he got two players who might contribute in 2015 and be stars by 2017.

  65. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    I think your dreamin’ Blake.

  66. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    The Yanks may have just decided to go with what they have…..hope their prospects have a good first half ….And who shakes loose in July….Headley or Stanton could be available at the deadline and if some prospects perform they could have enough then to make a move of they wanted…..of course the Yanks rarely do anything at the trade deadline anymore
    ———————

    Blake –

    Cashman doesn’t like doing big deals during the season. It smacks in the face of his slow methodical approach and he thinks that the price tag goes up. Plus, it’s not like they’ve worked out well.

    In Season Trades:

    Ichiro – Good
    David Justice – Good
    Aaron Boone – Good
    Jeff Weaver – awful
    Denny Neagle – awful
    Xavier Nady/Damaso Marte – awful (hey wonder if the Yankees could get back Tabata – that would solve the 4th OF thing)
    Estaban Loiaza – would be awful except they got him for Contreras

  67. RMS January 24th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Love the Braves outfield-
    Hayward-23
    BJ-28
    Justin-25

    Much too young for the Yankees.

  68. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    16 of the 25 NYY are 30 or older..Pardo would fit

  69. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    I think this is the team they go to spring training with – they’ll see who shakes loose, who are out of options and what prospects use the opportunity to make an impression.

    Though I would still sign Kelly Johnson.

  70. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    MTU says:
    January 24, 2013 at 7:39 pm
    I think your dreamin’ Blake.

    So more…”we don’t like the prices” and ” we like what we have” ?

  71. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    MTU says:
    January 24, 2013 at 7:39 pm
    I think your dreamin’ Blake.

    So more…”we don’t like the prices” and ” we like what we have” ?
    ————-
    “we looked at some things but didn’t think they made sense either in terms of dollars or years or what we would have to give up. I’m not going to make us worse in some other area for a marginal improvement somewhere.”

  72. theREALkevin January 24th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    RadioKev, yeah, if I’m the Yanks I’m really hesitant to give Cano a mega deal. As others on here have pointed out, the Dodgers or some other team might go out and give him something absurd. But are the Yankees anticipating that? Will they trade him at some point this season? Let him go and just get 1 draft pick? The latter seems like a pretty crappy alternative. Or maybe they really are planning to outbid everyone for him, and that’s another reason why they’ve been trying to cut down on spending recently.

    Personally, I kinda hope they trade him somehow. I don’t think he’ll be worth whatever deal his market will probably demand. I really do not know what the Yankees plan is with him though… should be interesting.

  73. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Blake-

    I’m afraid so.

    And more 189.

    :(

  74. theREALkevin January 24th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Yeah Atlanta’s OF has the chance to be pretty awesome. Some dynamic talent that’s for sure.

  75. jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    If they didn’t sign Melky they really aren’t signing Manny.

  76. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    don’t think they would be able to trade Cano at this point and get what he’s worth…should have thought about this last year…bye bye Cano

  77. blake January 24th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    “We aren’t going to do something just to do something ….we are open for business but the prices make me want to cry and say momma”

  78. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    I’m going to preface this by saying “this will never happen”

    Three team deal:

    San Francisco gets: Robinson Cano and Garrett Jones
    Pittsburgh gets: OF Gary Brown, P Kyle Crick, Pablo Sandoval, Eduardo Nunez and Flores
    Yankees get: Brandon Belt, Neil Walker, Jose Tabata, Pedro Alvarez

  79. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Other than what our MiLB players can give us I think these are gonna be kinda quiet times in Yankeeland for a while.

  80. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    MTU -

    Here’s where the Yankees are being schizophrenic, they’re trying to operate a long term plan with short term viewing:

    You’re trying to get payroll lower, you’re trying to stay away from bad long term contracts – so that to me says that at least 3 of the 4 of Cano, Hughes, Granderson and Logan are gone at the end of the year. So the smart move for your long term is to deal them now, get back quality young players you can control and make sure that you’re ready to compete going forward.

    But because they’re so hung up on winning right now, they won’t do that and will instead lose those guys for draft picks (assuming Hughes, Granderson and Cano are given qualifying offers). Draft picks who will be in the 30s and are – at best – 4 years away from helping the team.

    For a GM who says that he’s not going to mortgage the future it seems to me that not actively looking for trades for Hughes, Cano and Granderson he is mortgaging the future.

  81. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Would Granderson for Belt, Blanco and Gillaspie make sense to both the Yankees and Giants?

  82. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Chip-

    I’m having a hard time recognizing the way this team is operating as being the Yankees.

    I’m hoping I’ll feel differently as the season progresses.

    Or perhaps if I see our youngsters doing well.

  83. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    MTU January 24th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Chip-

    I’m having a hard time recognizing the way this team is operating as being the Yankees.
    ==============

    That’s because you’re used to the Yankees operating in a fashion that makes some sort of sense. This doesn’t. More to the point, I don’t trust Cashman and Levine to pull it off.

    On the one hand, I’m fine with them letting bad players like Martin and Ibanez go rather than give them the kind of money they got elsewhere. I’m fine with them trusting a kid like Romine to prove himself at the major league level. But my question is why stop there? Why not really do this thing the right way by committing their resources where they can do some good.

    I said it on the last thread – Cashman wanted control of the farm system and he’s done a terrible job with it. They’ve gotten talented guys but have been awful at self scouting them and developing them at a higher level. They’re not just cautious, they’re passive. It took Cashman how many years and how many ruined pitching prospects before he made the move to replace Nardi Contreras the best move they made all winter btw. When they had the ability to spend freely on talented players in the draft who slid because of signability, they didn’t – opting instead to reach for players like Culver and Bichette. They could have demolished the competition internationally – but didn’t. Now those loopholes are closed.

    Since Brian took control of the farm system it has not developed a single impact player (who is with the team).

    What I want, and what I think this team needs, is a complete change over to a front office that is used to operating with a budget and having to develop prospects.

  84. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Chip-

    This season should decide that.

    I’m not opposed to a entirely fresh deck of cards.

    From ownership on down.

    Maybe it’s time for a change.

  85. blake January 24th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: A’s Asked About Lowrie; Interested In Aledmys Diaz http://t.co/ZdB88EGd #mlb

    If the As are interested in a Cuban….you probably should be too

  86. austinmac January 24th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    The Yankees will have cursory internal discussions about the Cuban shortstop. They certainly don’t want to talk much and interfere with their busy waiver wire efforts.

  87. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    The only Cubans the Yankees are interested in are cigars, which they smoke after they count their money.

  88. austinmac January 24th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Chip,

    Cole scared them off tough signs to ones they already had agreements with. Igawa scared them off expensive international players instead opting for the Mustlier and Garcia cheap signings.

  89. joeman January 24th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    I’d like to see a Cuban buy this team

  90. blake January 24th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    austinmac says:
    January 24, 2013 at 8:52 pm
    The Yankees will have cursory internal discussions about the Cuban shortstop. They certainly don’t want to talk much and interfere with their busy waiver wire efforts.

    Lol

  91. FiretheUMPIRE January 24th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    “Stealth Cashman” is clearly a myth of our own making (not mine). How many offseasons and deadlines have passed where you just keep telling yourself that the non-moves are part of some grand secret strategy that will be unveiled eventually, something you could not possibly determine in your own little small mind…and then nothing happens.

    It should be abundantly obvious to every Yankees fan that Cashman has no plan. His plan is the one that is not working. The owners don’t know what to do but at least they figured out that Cashman sucks.

  92. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    Chip -

  93. matzcrorkz August 6th, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    ZVTCwu I think this is a real great blog post.Really thank you! Much obliged.

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