MLB announces game times for 2013 schedule
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2013 
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Major League Baseball today announced the game times for the upcoming season. As of right now, the Yankees official site isn’t fully updated, but here are a few game times that jump out. All of these times are according to the master schedule released by the league.
• The Yankees first road trip is heavy on day games. On Friday, April 5, the Yankees open a three-game series in Detroit. The game times are 1:05 p.m., 4:05 p.m., and 1:05 p.m. (the Yankees site says 1:50 for the Saturday game, but the MLB release says 4:05). From there, the Yankees travel to Cleveland where the series opener is another 4:05 first pitch, followed by three standard 7:05 games.
• The online schedule doesn’t list game times for the May 10-12 home series against the Royals. According to the MLB release, those games are at 7:10 p.m., 6:10 p.m. and 1:10 p.m.
• Originally listed as TBA, the May 25 game starts at 4:10 and the August 24 game starts at 7:10. Both are at Tampa Bay.
• The August 2-4 series in San Diego, listed as TBD for all three games, will have start times of 7:10 p.m., 5:40 p.m. and 1:10 p.m. (all Pacific Coast time). Sorry, originally wrote Eastern time out of habit. Obviously this times are local for San Diego.
• Even the MLB master schedule has June 2 against the Red Sox, June 23 against the Rays, August 11 against the Tigers, August 18 against the Red Sox, September 8 against the Red Sox, September 15 against the Red Sox and September 21 against the Giants as TBD. Oddly, the master schedule also lists June 16 at the Angels as TBD (the Yankees site lists 3:35 p.m.).
• The final series of the year, in Houston, will have start times of 7:10 p.m., 6:10 p.m. and 1:10 p.m.
I wanna hear more about how the Yanks are hustling their partial plans to former season ticket holders.. this seems like a good lead in!! Thanks Chad!
(You handsome devil, you.)
Shame Spencer: Trying to reverse the face of sexual harassment since 1987.
?@JUS10UP10
Bittersweet day for me. So happy to get the chance to play with my brother in Atlanta but will miss the city and the fans here in Phoenix.
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No mention of the team/ownership. Says a lot, IMO.
You lied to me, Shame. There’s no Chase Headley to be had here.
@JUS10UP10: Bittersweet day for me. So happy to get the chance to play with my brother in Atlanta but will miss the city and the fans here in Phoenix.
RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
You lied to me, Shame. There’s no Chase Headley to be had here.
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Lol, no I only said blake and I were changing course (since we have no choice) and should go back to the pursuit of Headley and Gordon.
Let’s figure out how to get one.. ready, go!
Since the Yankees aren’t good at trading players, maybe they could trade franchises. IOW, cash + the current team for the Braves roster.
Considering the Yanks needs short and long term….Headley would be an even better for for the Yankees than Upton ….however no indication he’s available
blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Considering the Yanks needs short and long term….Headley would be an even better for for the Yankees than Upton ….however no indication he’s available
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Don’t forget that he ‘has no position.’
On some level, they are probably better off not making prospect-centric trades until next year.
Shame, you know the 75/80% stat is probably skewed by the fact that most top executive positions are still mostly men, which probably skews the statistics a lot since they make such ridiculous amounts of money. There is probably not much difference amongst us commoners.
Headley and Gordon are not available.
I don’t think Gordon is available ….I think Headley could be if the Padres got the right offer
@F*cktheJets
A new study has found that Jets fans are 14 times more likely to be assholes. #Science
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Last I heard the Padres said they would just listen to offers, that they weren’t really looking to trade Headley. That and other reports said it would require a lot to trade for Headley. Plus we already have one 3B and another coming back in the second half.
Upton is gone, no more pining!
Rich in NJ says:
January 24, 2013 at 1:53 pm
On some level, they are probably better off not making prospect-centric trades until next year.
Yea…unless they all have bad years and lose value
“That and other reports said it would require a lot to trade for Headley. Plus we already have one 3B and another coming back in the second half.”
We have one guy who shouldn’t be playin 3B and another guy who shouldn’t be playing 3B “maybe” coming back in the 2nd half
jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Shame, you know the 75/80% stat is probably skewed by the fact that most top executive positions are still mostly men, which probably skews the statistics a lot since they make such ridiculous amounts of money. There is probably not much difference amongst us commoners.
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They do breakdowns of the statistics by class as well. And though your point is accurate that the top earners are have even more disparity in pay, that doesn’t actually make it better in any respect. All it means is that women have even less access to top paying jobs for…… being women…?
Even in traditionally feminized work like teaching and cooking, men make far more money and hold higher level positions.
NYU was underpaying their female professors by like 25-30% and they only just started correcting it after the NY Daily News blew up the story a couple years ago. And we’re all ‘liberal arts’ and sh*t.
No they’re probably not available, but it’s sort of our last hope unless people really think we’ll make a play for Giancarlo… who also isn’t available lol.
blake
If their best prospects were pitchers, I would be more concerned. That decline in value has already happened to Banuelos, Campos, and Betances, which is not surprising (TNSTAAPP), so there’s some hope for appreciation there, along with what’s his name…oh yeah…Pineda.
Now, however, their best prospects are position players. I realize that Williams got hurt and Heathcott has had injury issues, but I am more optimistic about their ability to raise their value, and I remain skeptical that Hal and Randy will be willing to be patient with ML on-the-job training.
That’s why I think a future trade(s) is in the offing.
It is NOT very often a young, cost controlled, high ceiling, player like J Upton becomes available. He is worth the prospects. 2013 will be Nunez’s breakout season, provided the Yanks give him the opportunity at the MLB level. We got people fawning over Prado, well, Nunez is gonna end up being the Far superior player.
“It is NOT very often a young, cost controlled, high ceiling, player like J Upton becomes available. He is worth the prospects”
I don’t want to miss the opportunity to say this: we agree.
Well said Donny!!
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Day games in cold weather cities in April make a lot of sense.
I don’t want to miss the opportunity to say this: we agree.
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I can’t say it but .. yeah
@DBJr19
Hey @yaboicito and @MjordanW9 ….. @mlueck16 is too embarrassed to ask you to follow her back, so I have to do it for her.. *sigh*…
LOL, the blatant flirting these guys do on Twitter is so funny… I’m sure it’ll cut back once they get higher up in the system.
@Yankees
Mo only needs to throw 8 #SpringTraining innings. Actually … “That’s too many. I’m trying to cut it down.” http://atmlb.com/10O19wR
Mo is unreal ..
Funny what $189 million does to a team.
Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
@Yankees
Mo only needs to throw 8 #SpringTraining innings. Actually … “That’s too many. I’m trying to cut it down.” http://atmlb.com/10O19wR
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Haha, I love that.
Yankees just sent out emails offering a 9 game plan for $90. Looks like it’s all mid-week games but against some good teams.
Clearly, fan interest level higher than ever in our Yankees…
“Funny what $189 million does to a team.”
It’s not the $189m (it’s actually $170 something) as much as the huge sunk costs and their probable decision to re-up Cano. If they were starting anew, it would be easy.
“We got people fawning over Prado, well, Nunez is gonna end up being the Far superior player.”
I agreed til this part
Rich,
Yea…I think they may wait and hope their prospects process and either keep them or trade them for Stanton…..
blake January 24th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
We have one guy who shouldn’t be playin 3B and another guy who shouldn’t be playing 3B “maybe” coming back in the 2nd half
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No matter anyone’s opinion of Youk, he was signed to play 3B, so we have a 3B, like it or not. Plus the docs said Arod’s hip cartilage damage was minimal, so Arod will probably be back with better strength and mobility. I would still mostly DH him to lessen strain on his hips as much as possible to prevent possible future problems, but the Yanks may see it differently.
Bottom line, the Yanks aren’t going to trade for another 3B.
@JeffPassan: Kirk Gibson was a huge voice in the Upton, Bauer deals, sources say. Wants certain type of clubhouse culture. Prado, a grinder, embodies it.
Talent > grinders every time
G. Love January 24th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
Yankees just sent out emails offering a 9 game plan for $90. Looks like it’s all mid-week games but against some good teams.
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Wow.. I wonder if that’s a package they’ll offer to the public at any point.
“Bottom line, the Yanks aren’t going to trade for another 3B.”
Maybe not but they absolutely should….they aren’t gonna get a real catcher either apparently….doesn’t mean that’s a great idea either
*Adds Gibson to the list of managers who shouldn’t replace Girardi*
@mlbtraderumors: Diamondbacks Designate Lars Anderson For Assignment http://t.co/8znq9joB #mlb
The great Lars Anderson?
Shame – I think it is open to the public. Go to the Yankees website and look under ticket plans.
The funny part was the email had Ichiro in it. No other Yankees. Just found that funny. Guess they know the fans love him.
Rich in NJ says:
January 24, 2013 at 2:28 pm
*Adds Gibson to the list of managers who shouldn’t replace Girardi*
Lol
All is forgiven Cashman has some plan of not offering a lot for Upton to make a run for Stanton.. 60 homer guy in YS. Book it.
If you get Headley or Gordon you can just make Youk the DH until Arod’s return. I’m not saying it’s an ideal allocation of cost vs production but I wouldn’t let Youk stand in the way of doing anything that could help us out for next year. The hole will still be there.
Wait, I still thought Lars was in Pawtucket, lol? The Sox already gave up on the guy?!?!?!? But he’s the reason they didn’t need Tex!
As Keith Law said in his article this morning, “The Diamondbacks’ new strategy seems to be to trade any player that manager Kirk Gibson doesn’t like, regardless of the reason.”
“If you get Headley or Gordon you can just make Youk the DH until Arod’s return”
Yes….then if Arod comes back healthy either trade Youk or send him off to the glue factory
Jacksquat,
I went out so I couldn’t have a chance to reply. Here is the most recent major study: http://www.theatlantic.com/ent.....es/261265/
I think, if you are coming at this from a position that reverse racism exists and is actually a bigger problem than regular racism, then we are just on fundamentally different planes of existence. You can say whatever you want, and I am not giving you permission just stating a fact so please don’t take that the wrong way. All I will say is that you should look at your comments critically, and be prepared for others to do the same.
As for the populations of whatever in wherever, I don’t think there is anything in the world which ‘needs more white people’. In case you’ve missed it, white people kind of ran stuff for hundreds of years to the detriment of everyone else.
I’d like to see more black players get into baseball, and I don’t think there is malignant racism stopping them but institutionalized or class disparity things where black kids are not getting the chance to play the game.
Its a lot easier to practice bball & soccer than it is football & baseball. Football offers significantly more and better scholarships and is much more of a media hog. Thats why I like outreach programs like RBI. And obviously I love the Braves outfield.
Celebrate diversity, ya’ll.
Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
@DBJr19
Hey @yaboicito and @MjordanW9 ….. @mlueck16 is too embarrassed to ask you to follow her back, so I have to do it for her.. *sigh*…
LOL, the blatant flirting these guys do on Twitter is so funny… I’m sure it’ll cut back once they get higher up in the system.
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The one thing I took from this is that Mason Williams is verified on twitter already… does this hold any additional weight in a trade or prospect status?
GLove – It is up on the site. I missed it before, thanks!
I should also point out that there are entire websites devoted to white supremacy in sports, run by actual supremacists, and I don’t think the same thing exists for other cultures. You can also just search twitter and find like hundreds of ultra-racist tweets all the time.
So lets not put the pedal to the metal on reverse racism being a huge or even growing problem.
Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
As Keith Law said in his article this morning, “The Diamondbacks’ new strategy seems to be to trade any player that manager Kirk Gibson doesn’t like, regardless of the reason.”
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Yeah this is pretty much what I figured. I know JAP was looking for more of an explanation yesterday, but I think we hold on too much to this idea that people that work in FO’s of baseball teams are intelligent, rationally minded individuals lol. They’re just as crazy as the rest of us and have all sorts of unexplainable quirks.
Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
As Keith Law said in his article this morning, “The Diamondbacks’ new strategy seems to be to trade any player that manager Kirk Gibson doesn’t like, regardless of the reason.”
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It will be fun when Gibson is fired and they have zero talent on the big league roster. Maybe they can all follow him to his next managerial job in AAA.
blake January 24th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
“If you get Headley or Gordon you can just make Youk the DH until Arod’s return”
Yes….then if Arod comes back healthy either trade Youk or send him off to the glue factory
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Yup!!! Even getting Olt or someone like that for cheap at this point is a good move. I’m worried by the deadline that some of our guys will have their value dip further (Grandy, Hughes, Nova) and you won’t even be able to swap one for a piece you need.
Just me, but I believe the jobs of Towers and Gibson are on the line with the 2013 season. The D Backs were flyin’ high after winning the division in 2011, and came crashing back to Earth after Not even making the Playoffs with an extra birth available in 2012. Their owner is Now proving to be knee-jerk, and Towers and Gibson are precariously sitting at the end of his foot.
DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Just me, but I believe the jobs of Towers and Gibson are on the line with the 2013 season. The D Backs were flyin’ high after winning the division in 2011, and came crashing back to Earth after Not even making the Playoffs with an extra birth available in 2012. Their owner is Now proving to be knee-jerk, and Towers and Gibson are precariously sitting at the end of his foot.
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The problem is that these moves have probably made the team worse for this season… I think they’d have a better shot at winning sooner with Bauer and Upton than these other guys.
Gibby wants guys that could hit homers in te playoffs on one leg!
I hope Day 1 of Spring Training, Prado puts shoe polish in Gibson’s cap.
All the Yankees games should be at 1:00 this year, so that all the seniors on the roster can get to supper before 5:00.
Tyler January 24th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Just me, but I believe the jobs of Towers and Gibson are on the line with the 2013 season. The D Backs were flyin’ high after winning the division in 2011, and came crashing back to Earth after Not even making the Playoffs with an extra birth available in 2012. Their owner is Now proving to be knee-jerk, and Towers and Gibson are precariously sitting at the end of his foot.
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The problem is that these moves have probably made the team worse for this season… I think they’d have a better shot at winning sooner with Bauer and Upton than these other guys.
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Right.. but I don’t think Tower’s job is on the line as a result. It might end up that way in the long run, but the owner was pushing the trades of both and he did what he was told,.
@BNightengale: Frank Wren on Upton trade: “We feel like we gave up an awfully rich package.” #Braves #Dbacks
Of course Wren said this while removing a ski mask
Shame-
I agree. I think Towers is a good GM. This stuff seems a little out of character for him.. has to have been heavily influenced by the AZ owner. Gibson’s managerial style (if the reports are true) could lead to his demise however.
Oh yeah.. Gibson is a different animal all together, but Towers is just carrying out the orders of a crazy man. I’d rather spend that Prado money on an Upton extension.
By the way, I thought they I had gotten stuck with Brodeur as my fantasy goalie but that shutout the other night of the Flyers was real nice… Grandpa Marty can still play.
Listen, maybe Upton pee’d in Kendrick’s Wheaties or something…. but as a baseball person, I’d take 25 guys that pee’d in my Wheaties if that’s what it took to win. Some owners wouldn’t feel that way. *shrugs*
Mark Grace getting fired due to a 2nd DUI was sad. I’m Not a Grace guy, as he and Schill made asses outta themselves immediately following the “01″ World Series, but you hate to see a guy with a family lose a Very good job like that.
If the Dbacks are wanting to flip Ahmed for more pitching then the Yanks should try and expand a Kubel deal and get them both
Of course Wren said this while removing a ski mask
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The way the D-backs went about this trade is so bizarre. First they wouldn’t trade with Texas because they wanted Profar or Andrus. Then they got their shortstop in another deal and tried to trade Upton to one of only 5 teams he has the power to veto. Then randomly decided they didn’t want top prospects after all and would rather have 1 year of Prado + a bunch of crappy prospects? It is bizarre
Tyler January 24th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
By the way, I thought they I had gotten stuck with Brodeur as my fantasy goalie but that shutout the other night of the Flyers was real nice… Grandpa Marty can still play.
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He can still steal games for you. They won’t rank the Devils highly in any power rankings because of his age… it’s funny. To me it’s like not ranking the Yankees highly because of their closer’s age.
Mark Grace getting fired due to a 2nd DUI was sad. I’m Not a Grace guy, as he and Schill made asses outta themselves immediately following the “01? World Series, but you hate to see a guy with a family lose a Very good job like that.
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I feel worse for the people on the road when he is driving drunk. He’s been arrested 3 times for drunk driving and you feel bad for him? Please.
Shame-
I think Brodeur is kind of like Rivera in the sense that they won’t stick around if they don’t feel like they can perform. Both seem very proud. I’m sure people will doubt the Devils without Parise all year but they will still make noise in the playoffs. Have a lot of respect for them even if I hate Lou as a Blues fan.
Don’t worry.
Williams, Heathcott, and Austin will be just as good as Upton-squared plus Heyward.
At least according to Brian Cashman.
Drink driving is unacceptable, but we have the technology to prevent drunk people from being able to start a car. Why the freak aren’t we using it?
Lars Anderson was just DFA’d by the Diamondbacks – he never lived up to his potential with Boston – but could be someone the Yankees bring in to the mix at LH DH.
As for Arizona dumping players that Gibson doesn’t like:
If Upton has a diva attitude that Gibson and the front office don’t want to permeate the rest of the players, then so be it.
JF, how long did it take for that tweet to come out about “closet racists”? It’s not a problem? Sorry, I find that offensive and unfair (even though it probably came from another white person). You can take on the “white man’s burden” if you want, I would like to have an opinion that happens to involve a non-white person and not be accused of being a racist or supposedly having this opinion because of some racist feelings deep inside me that I don’t even realize.
” In case you’ve missed it, white people kind of ran stuff for hundreds of years to the detriment of everyone else.”
Yeah, that sucked. But I wasn’t even alive for most of that. And in case you missed it, there’s a dark skinned guy in the top spot for “running stuff” in this country (who I voted for twice).
“The way the D-backs went about this trade is so bizarre”
I think basically they were always going to trade him they lost more and more leverage along the way…..
What is kinda strange to me is why the Rangers didnt engage because I think they could have beat this deal rather easily even without Andrus or Profar……that is unless Towers really Ian impressed with Olt
Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Drink driving is unacceptable, but we have the technology to prevent drunk people from being able to start a car. Why the freak aren’t we using it?
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Because the automotive industry has an impressive lobby.
@Phrontiersman
The last player to have 600 career ML PA for the Phillies before his age 26 season was Pat Burrell in 2002.
@Yankees
“They put me next to Don Mattingly. I was afraid to breathe!” – @MarianoRivera: http://atmlb.com/10O1j7t
Jerkface says:
January 24, 2013 at 3:02 pm
@Phrontiersman
The last player to have 600 career ML PA for the Phillies before his age 26 season was Pat Burrell in 2002.
The Yankees are close to becoming the Phillies if they don’t watch out
“Because the automotive industry has an impressive lobby.”
I think if handled right, it could be a money maker for them. Our automotive fleet is aging, and sooner or later people are going to be being new cars at increased rates.
They could also get a cut in retrofitting cars.
I think it’s more about this faux liberty craze that has infected our politics.
blake January 24th, 2013 at 3:03 pm
Jerkface says:
January 24, 2013 at 3:02 pm
@Phrontiersman
The last player to have 600 career ML PA for the Phillies before his age 26 season was Pat Burrell in 2002.
The Yankees are close to becoming the Phillies if they don’t watch out
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Nah – Ruben Amaro is willing to mortgage the future for today – Cashman’s trying to stay away from that.
Trade for Headley then sell Youk to the Braves!
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Keith, over the last 4 years Upton is responsible for 2 more wins (by fWAR) than Prado. I think this deal is a lot closer than you gave it credit for – and I think DBacks win when factoring in an extension.
Klaw (1:06 PM)
fWAR is overrating Prado somewhat due to his LF defense, he’s substantially older than Upton so comparing the last four years is too favorable to Prado, and the extension is totally irrelevant to the deal because the Diamondbacks didn’t acquire it.
Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
“Because the automotive industry has an impressive lobby.”
I think if handled right, it could be a money maker for them. Our automotive fleet is aging, and sooner or later people are going to be being new cars at increased rates.
They could also get a cut in retrofitting cars.
I think it’s more about this faux liberty craze that has infected our politics.
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During his first term President Obama was talking to a crowd about gas prices and he suggested that people buy hybrids if they’re having trouble with gas prices. The response was “um, I’m having problems paying $40 for a tank of gas and your answer is that I should spend $20,000 on a new car?”
The reason the current fleet is aging is because people can’t afford to buy new cars in this economy.
Tyler January 24th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Shame-
I agree. I think Towers is a good GM. This stuff seems a little out of character for him.. has to have been heavily influenced by the AZ owner. Gibson’s managerial style (if the reports are true) could lead to his demise however.
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Why does Cashman almost never get this benefit of the doubt here?
How about Youkilis and Ichiro were signed because Hal/Hank/Levine saw big names and Cashman didn’t have anything to do with those signings?
Blake -
So now that Upton’s off the table you’re all in on Headley?
Let’s not switch our vain hopes to other players. The Yankees are in a coma and will remain so until the trade deadline when they may be sellers.
I say again and again. It is about one thing and that is their refusal to spend money.
They pick up players released by other teams. That is the new player acquisition mode. How many players do we need to sign off the waiver wire or off the released list to understand that is it for them. Cashman had luck with Garcia and Ibanez. Now, he thinks anyone can be helpful.
pitro (milan)
Thoughts on Dom Brown? Was he playing hurt last year? …is he still worth giving a shot this year?
Klaw (1:24 PM)
Great buy-low candidate for someone. I don’t think Brown ever got the instruction he needed from Philly, not at the plate and certainly not in the field. He might be a lost cause, but he’s young enough that someone should be willing to take a chance on seeing if they can make up for lost development time.
Chip says:
January 24, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Blake -
So now that Upton’s off the table you’re all in on Headley?
The Phillies are a mess. Balance sheet is pitching heavy, with Halladay on the decline. Offensively, Utley, Rollins, and even Howard showing their age rapidly.
“Why does Cashman almost never get this benefit of the doubt here?”
Because he gets it in so many other areas by so many people for so many years?
jacksquat -
I think that if he had his druthers Cashman wouldn’t be against dealing Granderson, Logan, Hughes and even Cano and going very young to reach Hal’s mandate of $189. My uneducated guess is that Levine, who tends to see himself as George’s hand, is following with the mantra that you can’t field a young team in pinstripes.
“The reason the current fleet is aging is because people can’t afford to buy new cars in this economy.”
GM and Ford are doing quite well. Aging fleets are a longer term trend that extends beyond the last four years.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/w.....ng-old.jpg
If the Yankees could buy low on Dom Brown that would be nice. Though I’m with Law – I don’t know if Brown’s a lost cause at this point or not.
Cashman hardly ever gets the benefit of the doubt here, at least not since the Montero trade. Now, almost anything wrong with the team he gets the blame. The guy takes a lot of unfair criticism here, many times based on assumptions. We have no idea who is responsible for some of these trades unless Cashman comes out and says so (Soriano) or it is widely reported (Arod).
Of course now JAP will call me a “Cashman Apologist” because I dared try to be objective instead of twisting every little thing into Cashman bashing…
Have a lot of respect for them even if I hate Lou as a Blues fan.
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We did fleece you
People can Not afford new cars because the standard of living is declining. This country economically countinues to decline to the level of a Banana Republic. The Only thing we do Better than any other country, is produce weapons of mass destruction, and train the troops necessary to operate them.
Cashman isn’t the puppeteer…..Hal is. Cash isn’t perfect and he makes mistakes but I think a lot of what he does (including the Montero trade) is ownership driven
“This country economically countinues to decline to the level of a Banana Republic”
But strangely most people can shop at Banana republic and have an iPhone
Chip,
The Yankees are inworse shape going forward than most teams with their self imposed spending limitations. They have four more years, I think of the top of my head, of these huge contracts. Every team can and will contract for players for 2014 and beyond, except the Yankees. That doesn’t create flexibility. It creates a huge amount of holes with no players to fill them.
The best free agents for 2014 are the Yankees’ players. Even if they were willing, they couldn’t spend themselves out of this hole in one year.
The team will be fortunate–truly fortunate–if one of the Class A guys from last year significantly contribute in 2014. It has been said as long as I can remember, prospects must prove themselves at AA to really be on the horizon.
The great Cashman development plan led to a AAA team last year primarily of 30+ year olds. Thsi year he seems intent on doing that again with signings like Johnson.
I just got 2 symbolic emails. One from the Yankees wanting me to buy tickets…..one from the braves announcing the Justin Upton trade
Talent > grinders every time
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Surprised how many ppl don’t realize that. Not saying no to have grinders but don’t trade every guy with talent just to get a bunch of grinders. Would anyone take David Eckstein over A-rod
@CaseyStern: #BestOfTheDay @Thomas_Brady11 @CaseyStern the Upton trade is so bad XBOX won’t even let me make that trade
Lol
“Cashman hardly ever gets the benefit of the doubt here, at least not since the Montero trade”
Yes, important data points matter, and sometimes they can create a tipping point, which causes a re-examination of his body of work.
That body of work includes: 1) not having made a good trade for a top of the rotation starter in over a decade; 2) not having developed a top of the rotation starter since Pettitte, who he didn’t develop, and Hughes isn’t one as of today; 3) despite having gained more power in 2005, he hasn’t developed a top position player since Cano, who is currently on the team, and he came up before he got more power; 4) his trades for Vazquez, Granderson and Pineda are net losses as of today; 5) he has no ML ready bat to promote to compensate for any potential offensive shortfall.
“We have no idea who is responsible for some of these trades unless Cashman comes out and says so (Soriano) or it is widely reported (Arod).”
Net-net. He has gotten far more credit than he deserves given the unbelievably great situation that he inherited from people who matter a lot more than the people who post here.
“Of course now JAP will call me a “Cashman Apologist” because I dared try to be objective instead of twisting every little thing into Cashman bashing…”
I think I’m objective, which necessarily makes both of us subjective.
Give me talented grinders please. Just like I’ll take high average walkers with power and power pitchers with control and finesse pitchers with great stuff and whatever else baseball people try to think is mutually exclusive.
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Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Except they are going to catch Montero.
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They’re also going to play Ibanez in the OF – the comment was that they have 7 guys who should DH. The result is that they’re going to play bad defensive players in the field in hopes of generating offense.
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Methinks Ibanez’s role will be one of a bench / PH’er and a much needed veteran clubhouse presence (Wedge was not shy about the lack of veteran leadership last season…)
http://tinyurl.com/9wg4vwf
The M’s have some good-great OF gloves that will create a lot of competition in ST (Saunders, Wells and Guti) so hopefully, they’ll have a mix of OH and DEE
“Give me talented grinders pleas”
Well yea
Deal Stu
Buy the Yankees.
Rich
@BNightengale: The #Dbacks have already opened contract talks about longterm deal with Prado
How about Youkilis and Ichiro were signed because Hal/Hank/Levine saw big names and Cashman didn’t have anything to do with those signings?
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We do talk about that. We’ve been talking about the factions in the FO all off season and not one of them is innocent or guilty as they’re all contributing to some portion of the problem.
And I’ve never seen people get more offended by stuff than white people when discussing racism which is the ultimate irony. I was in North Carolina with my friend because she was playing basketball in a tourney down there.. we went into a KFC and the girl behind the counter asked me for my order and without even missing a beat said ‘and I’m sure your n*gger friend wants an order fried chicken’ (my friend is black, obviously). I have an appreciation for the fact that I have never and will never be treated that way based on an inherent advantage.
Just my guess, but after the Montero trade, I believe Hal took Cashman’s sword, and broke it in half over his knee. That is the day Cashman got “F-Trooped”.
blake January 24th, 2013 at 3:27 pm
@BNightengale: The #Dbacks have already opened contract talks about longterm deal with Prado
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It sounded like Prado was looking for an extension already from the Braves… It’ll be interesting to see if he gets what he was looking for from the Dback and how the market plays out. I’m surprised anyone wants to be extended with how money is flowing in the game.
@Deadspin
Katie Couric: “Are you gay?” Manti Te’o: “No. Far from it. Farrrr from it.”
@rilaws
Exactly how far away from being gay is Manti Te’o? Like across the street from gay? Down the block? Two towns over?
We don’t know what interaction exists between Cashman and his bosses nor do we know if these decisons are his or not. All I do know is the management group has been performing incompetently and the future of the team is greatly jeopardized.
It is my best guess that Hal is making Cashman prove he could win without spending over the cap as he announced proudly he could. Cashman is now likely in the position to have to shut up and hope for the prospects to do what Yankees prospects haven’t done for 15 years.
If and when it fails, the owner won’t be fired.
Can imagine the Arizona fan base still in shock over the Upton Heist, now hearing about extending Prado. Lotta cactus being kicked around the desert.
Shame,
I’m from NC and believe me that kind of behavior is pretty rare…..though does happen unfortunately still across the country
BJ and Justin?
Only Upton i want to see if Kate Upton….
Brandon McCarthy ?@BMcCarthy32
“That Te’o is the least gay person I’ve ever met. He’s really really straight. Too straight actually. It’s weird.”
I’m thinking 4/50 or so for Prado….that wouldn’t be a bad deal for him….still woukd rather have Upton though
Old Hoss Radbourn ?@OldHossRadbourn
“Are you Irish, Mr. Radbourn?” “No. Far from it.”
ac1 says:
January 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm
BJ and Justin?
Only Upton i want to see if Kate Upton….
They’ve probably tried to aquire her too
“Just my guess, but after the Montero trade, I believe Hal took Cashman’s sword, and broke it in half over his knee. That is the day Cashman got “F-Trooped”.”
It has been reported that George did that when he opted for Vazquez over Schilling and that didn’t work out.
Jacksquat,
Is it inappropriate to criticize the general manager whose job it is to put togther the team? Why? He said they would be unstoppable with his system and their money.
but lohud told me that young ESTABLISHED position players are not traded – - – -
Seacrest out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36maTvyPYI
blake January 24th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Shame,
I’m from NC and believe me that kind of behavior is pretty rare…..though does happen unfortunately still across the country
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Oh I don’t think it’s the norm of any particular area.. but it can crop up anywhere and that’s the point. A lot of people have had those experiences and it colors every experience they have going forward.
Anyway.. after being mortified for a good second, we both dove over the counter and beat the girls ass as best we could before the manager came out lol.
BJ and Justin?
Only Upton i want to see if Kate Upton….
They’ve probably tried to aquire her too
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Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers something something
“He said they would be unstoppable with his system and their money.”
Maybe if the Giants, Rays, or Cardinals FO was running the show ….
Mac -
I agree with your assessment which is why I would have spent this winter dealing Cano, Granderson and Hughes to get young players under contract.
Yes, the Yankees likely would have taken a step back in 2013 in doing so, but not nearly as large as a step back as the one they’ll take in 2014 when they lose these guys anyway and only get marginal draft picks in return.
Established position players are never traded to the Yankees, or at least, not anymore.
@Deadspin
It’s official: The New Orleans Hornets will become the New Orleans Pelicans. Here’s the logo: http://deadsp.in/N8pJMhu
but lohud told me that young ESTABLISHED position players are not traded – – – -
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Upton has 3 expensive years left, beep boop, wrong again.
Chip,
I completely agree. Those trades could have made the system very strong and the team much stronger for years ahead. I do believe they are afraid to act or don’t know how to trade except to take on money.
I will be interested to see how ticket sales are progressing. If they are slow, rather than spur spending of money to help the team, they may well reduce spending even further.
blake January 24th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
“This country economically countinues to decline to the level of a Banana Republic”
But strangely most people can shop at Banana republic and have an iPhone
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blake,
You don’t live where I do. People around here, except for a few, don’t shop like that, or own the latest I-phone. My own automotive fleet consists of a 17-year-old pickup truck, with 210 k miles, which I need, a fairly pristine 30-year-old MB 380SL with 79k miles, which I don’t need but can’t sell for anywhere near book, and a 1986 Porsche 944 which has been run in a couple of years. To replace my old Dodge truck with something similar now costs north of $40K. If I could qualify for a loan, I wouldn’t outlive the payments. Times are tight around here.