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On the move: Upton, Hairston, Marcum, Johnson

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

In the past 12 hours or so, there’s been a flurry of activity in baseball.

Justin Upton has been traded, and now he’s joining his brother in a potent Braves outfield. Upton and corner infielder Chris Johnson head to Atlanta in exchange for versatile Martin Prado, shortstop prospect Nick Ahmed, young infielder Brandon Drury and right-handed pitchers Randall Delgado and Zeke Spruill. Instead of a typical prospect package, the Diamondbacks got a group built around arbitration-eligible infielder Prado and second-year big league starter Delgado (who was a huge prospect heading into last year). It’s very different from the Mariners trade that was rejected, but once again, the package is still different from what the Yankees would have been able to offer.

• You know who might fit for the Braves? Chris Dickerson. They have some left-handed bench options, but Jose Constanza isn’t exactly can’t-miss and I’d rather have Dickerson than Jordan Schafer.

• Late last night, Ken Rosenthal reported that Scott Hairston is off the market. He signed a two-yeal deal with the Cubs, who might use him as a platoon outfielder — just like the Yankees would have — but they offered the second year that the Yankees seemed hesitant to give.

• One of the interesting remaining starters is also off the market. Shaun Marcum has signed with the Mets. He got a one-year deal.

• What about the Yankees, you ask… They’ve agreed to a minor league deal with first baseman Dan Johnson. At the least he seems to be Triple-A first base depth — sorry Luke Murton — and I guess he could be an option as a left-handed designated hitter, since that role is still wide open.

 
 

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134 Responses to “On the move: Upton, Hairston, Marcum, Johnson”

  1. jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 11:20 am
    ?@DashTreyhorn

    The Braves now have the three OFs most often referred to as being “lazy” by closet racists. Should be a fun season for @FanSince09.
    ///

    Around here, the Latinos are the “lazy” players.

    Yes, if a player doesn’t run for a ball he should have, you better not call him lazy (if you are white), or you will be called a racist.

    If you are white, you are only allowed to think white players are lazy, or you are a racist. Now you know.

  2. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    I will only speak about Cano because he is one player I watch all of the time. He is often referred to as lazy, that he doesn’t dive. You can read such implcations by some posters here, as well as other places. Is that because he is Latin, IDK? But it’s completely false, and it does seem to have racial undertones.

  3. willwill January 24th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Is this the 80s and early 90′s yet? When is Claudelle and Jack clark going to be in the lineup? Oh don’t forget luis polonia jesse barfield

    KEN PHELPS. MATT NOKES KEVIN MAAS.

    God help us

  4. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 11:10 am
    Because it was a move they are paying for now. Hopefully Pineda bounces back but he has a long road ahead of him.
    ///

    That kid was pushed because of their own naive ideas. He had to “show velo” right then and there, and they ignored signs of distress.

    Same as coming to get Chamberlain after 3.plus and 4 innings in 2009…. it’s they who can’t stomach development.

    Even in the minors, they come and yank their starters with no feel or regard for how they’re pitching, just droning out their handling based on fixed pitch counts.

    ———————————-

    They are so bad when it comes to pitching. Pineda wasn’t right and they kept pushing smh. Watch when he gets back it will be the same thing.

  5. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Yes, if a player doesn’t run for a ball he should have, you better not call him lazy (if you are white), or you will be called a racist.

    If you are white, you are only allowed to think white players are lazy, or you are a racist. Now you know.

    ———————–

    JAP may be referencing people here but it’s more likely he’s targeting an overarching narrative about minority players as having attitude issues, being lazy, being loud mouths, etc.

    Let’s not take this too personally, this one can get out of hand pretty quickly.

    86 – “Why would Towers sign Chavez and then upgrade 3B? Can we have him back? He’s no Dan Johnson, but still…..”

    LOL!

  6. Jerkface January 24th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    I will only speak about Cano because he is one player I watch all of the time. He is often referred to as lazy, that he doesn’t dive. You can read such implcations by some posters here, as well as other places. Is that because he is Latin, IDK? But it’s completely false, and it does seem to have racial undertones.

    Not saying that any comments here are specifically racial, but it has been documented that players of color are more likely to have negative descriptors attached to their play than white players, who receive a disproportionate amount of positive descriptors such as ‘gritty’ and ‘grinder’ or whatever.

  7. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    It actually didn’t occur to me that they’ve got a superstar black american outfield. That’s actually pretty cool (not to sound overly simplistic, here).

    ————————

    Yea it is cool. Baseball has mentioned the declining numbers of African Americans in the sport. Maybe the three headed monster in ATL changes things. Maybe the kid who wants to play football sees that and says if those guys can make maybe I can too. Of course it’s easier said than done

  8. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    And if you are fluid instead of a jerky-motioned grinder (see Cano), you don’t work hard.

  9. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    The Upton trade is a great fit for Atlanta – they are now set in the OF for the next what – 4 years with Upton, Upton and Heyward. Chris Johnson is a good replacement for Chipper Jones (and I’m really annoyed that the Yankees have missed out on him twice). He’s not an upgrade over Prado but I don’t think Atlanta could have kept Prado after this year.

    Arizona did well too – they got everything they wanted including a couple of guys who can contribute right away.

    I don’t think the Yankees could have matched the offer.

  10. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    patrick-

    how are you and i going to continue arguing about moves when there are few if any of consequence?

    we need some action to have something to disagree about

    I don’t know :(

    The most significant move the Yanks made this winter aside from re-signing their players is signing Youkilis to a 1 year contract. I see why they did it, and he does fill a need, but I’m not too excited to see him play.

  11. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 11:30 am
    It actually didn’t occur to me that they’ve got a superstar black american outfield. That’s actually pretty cool (not to sound overly simplistic, here).

    ——————-

    I wonder how often that’s happened.

    ——————

    If I was MLB I’d promote those three guys as much as possible. To be honest MLB needs to do a better job of promoting all their young stars.

  12. Russell Munson January 24th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    If Cano ran out every ground ball he’d be less likely to be called lazy. I’m not saying he has to because I’d rather not see him pulling a hamstring on a play that’s an out 99% of the time, and it’s not like Paul O’Neill ran out every ground ball either, but let’s not pretend there’s no reason Cano’s earned that label.

  13. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    What I don’t get about the Diamondbacks is they now have Prado, Hinske and Chavez. Not that there’s anything wrong with depth, but Hinske and Chavez seem extremely redundant.

  14. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    It actually didn’t occur to me that they’ve got a superstar black american outfield. That’s actually pretty cool (not to sound overly simplistic, here).

    ————————

    Yea it is cool. Baseball has mentioned the declining numbers of African Americans in the sport. Maybe the three headed monster in ATL changes things. Maybe the kid who wants to play football sees that and says if those guys can make maybe I can too. Of course it’s easier said than done

    —————————

    Great point, actually, I hadn’t thought of that. I know Sheff isn’t a great source of… anything.. but some of the comments he made about African American players were completely on point. They just weren’t expressed all that well.

  15. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Russell Munson January 24th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    If Cano ran out every ground ball he’d be less likely to be called lazy

    ———————–

    I’ve never seen Tex go hard to first…. but he’s not lazy. In fact, start watching more of our players on ground outs.. you’d be surprised how many don’t go all out to first base and how little it comes up.

  16. blake January 24th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    I don’t think the Yankees could have matched the offer.”

    If Towers wanted a 3B for 2013 then no they could not…..I do wonder what this means they thought Olt if they chose 1 year of Prado over 6 of him

  17. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Patrick,

    I would argue that the best thing the Yankees did this year was not overspend to keep bad players like Ibanez and Martin.

    Now, I’ll grant you – the options that are currently slated to replace them (unknown DH and Romine at catcher) may not be better – but it is nice to see the Yankees moving away from spending big money for poor production.

  18. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    “If Cano ran out every ground ball he’d be less likely to be called lazy. I’m not saying he has to because I’d rather not see him pulling a hamstring on a play that’s an out 99% of the time, and it’s not like Paul O’Neill ran out every ground ball either, but let’s not pretend there’s no reason Cano’s earned that label.”

    They didn’t call Pete Rose “Charlie Hustle” because running out every ground ball is routine.

    I don’t have to pretend. There is no good reason that he earned that label.

  19. Jerkface January 24th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    YES has just texted me to let me know they signed dan johnson, truly an amazing service

  20. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 11:57 am
    Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    It actually didn’t occur to me that they’ve got a superstar black american outfield. That’s actually pretty cool (not to sound overly simplistic, here).

    ————————

    Yea it is cool. Baseball has mentioned the declining numbers of African Americans in the sport. Maybe the three headed monster in ATL changes things. Maybe the kid who wants to play football sees that and says if those guys can make maybe I can too. Of course it’s easier said than done

    —————————

    Great point, actually, I hadn’t thought of that. I know Sheff isn’t a great source of… anything.. but some of the comments he made about African American players were completely on point. They just weren’t expressed all that well.

    ———————–

    Yes Sheff suffers from foot on mouth disease sometimes lol smh

  21. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Chip,

    Pretty sad that the “best thing” the Yankees have done .. is do nothing.

    Agreed, sometimes the best move is to let guys walk, but that doesn’t make it any less boring.

  22. MTU January 24th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    randy-

    I’m with you. I think the Yankees have indeed stepped away from the table.

  23. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    MTU January 24th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
    randy-

    I’m with you. I think the Yankees have indeed stepped away from the table.

    ———————

    The richest team in the sport is folding wtf

  24. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    They didn’t overpay for Martin or Ibanez… but they overpaid for Youk and Ichiro… wash?

  25. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    I don’t have to pretend. There is no good reason that he earned that label.
    ———

    In particular his fielding. He’s damn good out there.

  26. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Blake,

    My guess is that they’ll re-sign Prado. If not, they can move Cliff Pennington to 3b next year when Didi is ready to take SS.

    I just looked at their roster – so much redundancy. I would still see if the Yankees could get Parra (leaving Arizona with Pollack, Kubel, Ross, Hinske and Eaton in the OF in the INF they have Chavez, Goldschmidt, Hinske (again), Bloomquist, Hill, Pennington, Didi, McDonald, and Prado.

  27. Mike Ri January 24th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Now what ???

  28. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    I don’t have to pretend. There is no good reason that he earned that label.
    ———

    In particular his fielding. He’s damn good out there.

    —————

    Cano doesn’t have to dive because he covers so much range. People under-appreciate that.

    Joe D, from what I understand, didn’t have to do much diving either because he was so good at getting to balls.

  29. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    I think the Yanks would have probably had to include Cano to get Upton based on what Towers accepted…..either that or just blown him away with prospects. I don’t geti if from the Dbacks POv but it’s what they wanred

  30. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
    They didn’t overpay for Martin or Ibanez… but they overpaid for Youk and Ichiro… wash?
    ———-

    Maybe if they had a starting catcher it would be a wash.

    Not resigning Russell Martin, and Hal speaking bullcrap about not the fans concerns are the lows of this offseason for me.

  31. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Look at it this way… In making trades generally and in Cash’s recent history, Cash may do less harm by making no deals. I don’t want him to feel the pressure to make a deal to the extent that he overpays with our farm assets. In that case, I would prefer inactivity.

  32. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
    They didn’t overpay for Martin or Ibanez… but they overpaid for Youk and Ichiro… wash?
    ———-

    Maybe if they had a starting catcher it would be a wash.

    Not resigning Russell Martin, and Hal speaking bullcrap about not the fans concerns are the lows of this offseason for me.

    ————————-

    Yeah… yeah I agree.

  33. 86w183 January 24th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    If you want redundancy check out the Mariners…. they got about 7 guys who should only DH.

  34. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    @JackMagruder

    #Dbacks expect to sign new 3B Prado, a free agent after 2013, to long-term extension in the near future, source said. Only way deal was made

  35. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Well that makes more sense if they can

  36. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    I posted it last night – assuming the Yankees do nothing else here is how I see the 25 shaking out:

    Jeter – ss
    Ichiro – rf
    Cano – 2b
    Tex – 1b
    Youk – 3b
    Granderson – DH
    Romine – C
    Z. Almonte – LF
    Gardner – CF

    Bench: Canzler, Mustelier, Nunez, Cervelli

    Rotation:
    CC, Kuroda, Andy, Hughes, Nova

    Pen:
    RHP: Rivera, Joba, Robertson, Aardsma, Phelps
    LHP: Logan, Cabral

    The pitching is pretty straight forward – Aardsma replaces Eppley and Cabral replaces Rapada, he has more upside and has to stay on the 25.

    Almonte had a good spring for the Yankees last year and, had he not missed time early, might have been at AAA by the end of last year. He’s got recognition issues that need to be resolved, but given how wide open things are right now I think he at least has a shot to impress enough to head north.

    On the bench, Canzler and Mustelier are fairly redundant but they also offer enough diversity in where they can play that the Yankees might opt to carry both of them.

    It’s certainly not the best Yankee team we’ve seen, but it’s not the worst either.

  37. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Hal speaking bullcrap about not the fans concerns

    ————————-

    Is this the time when he said they singed 3 or 4 of the biggest FA on the market?

  38. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Almonte is not going to start for the Yankees.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Not saying that any comments here are specifically racial, but it has been documented that players of color are more likely to have negative descriptors attached to their play than white players, who receive a disproportionate amount of positive descriptors such as ‘gritty’ and ‘grinder’ or whatever.
    ///

    Sorry I missed this discussion, but yes, JF, this is right-on accurate, I think. There’s a lot of unconscious association going on that informs the descriptive language – some don’t even know they’re making those associations based on ethnicity or race.
    ///

    Shame, well said, yes that’s where I am coming from.
    ///

    Good day, all.

  40. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    86w183 January 24th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    If you want redundancy check out the Mariners…. they got about 7 guys who should only DH.

    ——————

    I dunno what Crazy Jack is doing.. he’s got platoons on platoons over there!

  41. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    @keithlaw: New post for Insiders – Arizona sells Justin Upton for 50 cents on the dollar: http://t.co/b5SeUNte

    Yup

  42. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    86w183 January 24th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    If you want redundancy check out the Mariners…. they got about 7 guys who should only DH.
    ——————-

    Very true.

    Ibanez
    Carp
    Bay
    Montero
    Morales
    Morse

  43. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Except they are going to catch Montero.

  44. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Almonte is not going to start for the Yankees.
    —————–

    whatever.

  45. jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Jerkface January 24th, 2013 at 11:51 am
    I will only speak about Cano because he is one player I watch all of the time. He is often referred to as lazy, that he doesn’t dive. You can read such implcations by some posters here, as well as other places. Is that because he is Latin, IDK? But it’s completely false, and it does seem to have racial undertones.

    Not saying that any comments here are specifically racial, but it has been documented that players of color are more likely to have negative descriptors attached to their play than white players, who receive a disproportionate amount of positive descriptors such as ‘gritty’ and ‘grinder’ or whatever.

    Was this a scientific study, or just some opinion by someone?

    And even if it is true that there are a small number of racists left in society, does that have to mean that every time a caucasian says a non-caucasian is lazy he gets the racist label?

    Why are we talking about a drop in african-americans in baseball but not about an extremely disproportionate number of caucasians in pro basketball?

    Sometimes I think the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction…

    I’m with Morgan Freeman, “stop talking about it”.

  46. G. Love January 24th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I’m with yanksfem believe it or not. I don’t want Cashman to be allowed to make any new trades. I’m completely serious. That’s why I was pushing the free agent plan this off season as I think the guy has no ability to self scout.

    That being said, seeing Upton gone stinks. It also means the big hairy monster with low batting average in Kubel is off the market so Cashman can’t trade the team for him.

    What does this all mean? Well, from knowing the tickets are off to the point that they are offering seats to people in plans never before offered, I think the Yankees are probably putting everything into Giancarlo Stanton if he truly hits the market this year. I don’t really see any other potential young impact bat that could hit the market.

    There’ll be a bit of backlash from not trading for Upton, losing a guy like Hairston for 6 million bucks, etc.

  47. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Except they are going to catch Montero.
    —————

    They’re also going to play Ibanez in the OF – the comment was that they have 7 guys who should DH. The result is that they’re going to play bad defensive players in the field in hopes of generating offense.

  48. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Except they are going to catch Montero.

    ——————–

    I think randy missed Wedge’s announcement yesterday that Montero would be doing the bulk of the catching. I forget if he was being yelled at for saying he’d do that or if he was being yelled at for referring to people as ‘Montero haters’ when there are none, but on one count, at least, he was right. What’s that they say about a broken clock, randy..? ;)

    blake – I was saying the the longer this dragged after the M’s deal got killed the lower his price would go and that might make him available to the Yanks….. I’m sorta sad they didn’t get a ginormous package and we still weren’t involved.

  49. randy l. January 24th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    “I’m with you. I think the Yankees have indeed stepped away from the table.”

    mtu-

    i don’t think hal enjoys the action.

    the journey in a business is often the destination.

    hal just doesn’t seem to get much joy out of the day to day running of the the yankees.

    to george it was a contact sport.

    he didn’t always make the right decisions, but no one can question he was in there battling.

    and he loved it.

    hal appears to be bored with the whole thing.

  50. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    “I think the Yankees are probably putting everything into Giancarlo Stanton if he truly hits the market this year. I don’t really see any other potential young impact bat that could hit the market.”

    Maybe…problem is though that at the moment I don’t think they have near enough to get him….now if their prospects do well in the first half then maybe at the deadline…..but that’s pretty optimistic

  51. Cashmoney January 24th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    YES just texted me that Cashman is in Greenland looking for the next big thing. Correction. Iceland.

  52. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Chip

    I don’t think that’s fair at this point in his career. Is it preferable to have a catcher who is great defensively but who can’t hit? I don’t think so. There is nothing wrong with bad defensive players who can use offense as a counterweight.

    Plus, Montero could get better. Ibanez, Bay, Morse and some of the others have no chance.

    So it’s worth being patient with him.

    And btw, the Yankees don’t currently have a better catching option than Montero.

  53. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    “blake – I was saying the the longer this dragged after the M’s deal got killed the lower his price would go and that might make him available to the Yanks….. I’m sorta sad they didn’t get a ginormous package and we still weren’t involved.”

    Yea….I agree….they clearly sold low on him cause they had to IMO….they werent taking him to camp

  54. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    whatever.

    Whatever? It makes no sense for Almonte to start or even make the team for that matter. .278/.322/.488 in AA last year. And you think that translates to a starting spot on a playoff team? Please.

  55. DONNYBROOK January 24th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    You guys continue to over-value Prado. The guy’s 29, and you know Exactly what your gettin’. A Good player, but nothing on the exceptional scale. Signing Prado long-term, will Only remind fans year after year, of what a Boner Tower’s pulled way-back-when. If Hal had made a deal of this kind, we would all be manning a pitchfork.

  56. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    “The Diamondbacks expect to sign Martin Prado to a long-term contract extension in the near future, Jack Magruder of FOXSportsArizona.com reports (on Twitter). Without the prospect of a long-term deal with Prado, the Diamondbacks wouldn’t have completed the trade that sent Justin Upton and Chris Johnson to Atlanta for Prado and four others.”

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....F4azyvS.99

    And there you go.

  57. AAA January 24th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    I think the Yankees are probably putting everything into Giancarlo Stanton if he truly hits the market this year. I don’t really see any other potential young impact bat that could hit the market

    ===================================

    Some thought that more than one team, including Texas, are doing the exact same thing.

  58. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Cashmoney January 24th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    YES just texted me that Cashman is in Greenland looking for the next big thing. Correction. Iceland.
    ——-

    Iceland is a lovely place

  59. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    squat – Some people don’t think of racism on an individual level. Many believe there is a more sinister form that exists structurally and subconsciously in this country and others. Plenty of studies have been done on that… which translates over to sports.

    Also, the basketball vs. baseball analogy is flawed based on access.

    I don’t see how a pendulum is swinging anywhere.. do you feel your rights are in jeopardy?

  60. Cashmoney January 24th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Never been… by the time I get to Holland and contemplating about visiting other parts of Scandinavia, I am usually too high. but one day…one day.

  61. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    I think the Yankees are probably putting everything into Giancarlo Stanton if he truly hits the market this year.

    ———————

    I think this is more phantom limb talk ;)

  62. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    hal appears to be bored with the whole thing.

    ———————-

    He barely goes to games lol

  63. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Mets’ interest in Bourn sincere. Deal likely would be backloaded. Big $$ come off Mets’ books after ’13, new nat’l TV $$ kick in.

    If he gets Bourn a big deal then he should retire as the all time champ

  64. yankeefeminista January 24th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    I don’t think that’s fair at this point in his career. Is it preferable to have a catcher who is great defensively but who can’t hit? I don’t think so. There is nothing wrong with bad defensive players who can use offense as a counterweight.
    ____
    QFT. Especially considering the metrics for determining what a good defensive catcher is is not an exact science. And how is the loss of offense from the position being measured/evaluated?

  65. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    whatever.

    Whatever? It makes no sense for Almonte to start or even make the team for that matter. .278/.322/.488 in AA last year. And you think that translates to a starting spot on a playoff team? Please.

    ———————–
    I’m with Patrick… I don’t know if they’ll give Almonte much time and I certainly wouldn’t pencil him in the starting line up. Better chance of Nunez DHing with an OF of Grandy/Gardner/Ichiro.

    blake – I bet they used that leak about the possibility of just trading Kubel to squeeze a little more out of the Braves.

  66. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    G. Love,

    If you don’t trust Cashman to make trades then why would you trust him to sign FA’s?

    Until the Yankees decide what the hell it is they want to do with their organization it’s going to be a bad situation here.

    They’re at a point where they want to lower payroll, but their top prospects aren’t in a position to help them do that, and some of their development processes have been awful – for example the failure of Cashman to address pitching development in the organization cost them Jesus Montero.

    Beyond that – the plan that Cashman went with the last couple of years – to wait out the FA market – isn’t viable any more because those low cost FA’s at the tail end of their careers jumped off the market a lot sooner than they did in previous years.

    So now you have a choice; go with the second tier of prospects – the guys like Almonte or Adams or Mustelier, until hopefully Heathcott, Austin etc are ready (if they ever are) or go with even worse FA options (Travis Hafner, Kelly Johnson, Scott Hairston) or make deals. The problem is, that the players teams want are the ones the Yankees want to see play for them.

    What the Yankees should be doing is what teams under fiscal constraints have done for years – identify which guys you can’t or won’t re-sign and then deal them. In dealing Granderson, Hughes, Logan and even Cano, the Yankees could bring in young, controllable major league ready talent – the kind that they don’t have. But there is this stigma throughout the organization that the Yankees can’t operate that way, that the fan base won’t support the team if they were to try it and so it’s not a road Cashman or Levine will go down.

    The irony is that the vocal minority of fans (people who post on blog sites for example) would be fine with that because we’re in it for the long haul, but we’re not the people the Yankee front office is concerned about.

    I would love for the Yankees to bring in a front office that has gone through a rebuilding and knows how to do it; unfortunately I don’t think Hal has the baseball knowledge or passion to really care all that much about the nuance of what it takes to accomplish what he wants in terms of payroll. He is more or less (imnsho) saying “this is what I want, make it happen, how you do it is up to you.” and Randy and Cash have no idea how to do it because it’s not something they’ve ever done before.

    As guys who basically came through the era of excess, Cashman and Levine wouldn’t know where to begin. Stick would be the only guy within the org right now I would trust to pull it off.

    Sorry if that rambled.

  67. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Dbacks will now try to package SS Nick Ahmed and pitching prospect in trade for #Tigers starter Rick Porcello, one NL official says

    Plot thickens….how about we jump in on this….we could use a SS

  68. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    “If you don’t trust Cashman to make trades then why would you trust him to sign FA’s?”

    Cause he’s better at it

  69. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    If he gets Bourn a big deal then he should retire as the all time champ

    ——————

    Before he gets a chance to make 10% commission on Cano..? NEVAHHHHH!!!!!

  70. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    whatever.

    Whatever? It makes no sense for Almonte to start or even make the team for that matter. .278/.322/.488 in AA last year. And you think that translates to a starting spot on a playoff team? Please.
    —————–

    And what makes you think this is a playoff team?

    Looking around the league – I’m not sure I see it. And I don’t see any players available that would represent that much of an upgrade to the roster I suggested.

    Travis Hafner?
    Kelly Johnson?
    Luke Scott?

  71. randy l. January 24th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    thanks shame

    i was driving to maine yesterday. i did miss this :

    “3. Jesus Montero is THE catcher

    Jesus Montero is in Seattle right now. He’s going through workouts and meeting with Wedge on a one-on-one basis. There is little doubt that he’s the starting catcher going forward.

    “He knows he’s coming here to catch,” Wedge said. “It will be ultimately be my decision in regard to how much he does catch. But we are going to ask him catch as much as we feel like he can to go out and perform the way he is capable of performing.”

    Montero has his deficiencies defensively. There are tools there. And he did improve. But there were times last season where he was clearly fatigued physically which led to mental mistakes and lack of focus.

    “It’s more the mental than they physical side of things,” Wedge said. “I don’t have any doubt in my mind that he can handle it from a talent perspective, that he can handle the role fundamentally.”

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com.....rylink=cpy

    well, that was obvious once jaso was traded except to montero haters. what’s a “montero hater”?
    that’s someone who gets all giddy inside when montero has a bad day.
    they know who they are.

    i’m on the montero bandwagon and root for him to do well. there is no coincidence that once someone makes a prediction about something they tend to root for that outcome.

    it appears montero is positioned to have a really good season. he’s a catcher though. anything could happen. injuries etc. but for now he’s right where he needs to be.

  72. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Dbacks will now try to package SS Nick Ahmed and pitching prospect in trade for #Tigers starter Rick Porcello, one NL official says

    Plot thickens….how about we jump in on this….we could use a SS
    ——————

    Sign the Cuban kid instead.

  73. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Before he gets a chance to make 10% commission on Cano..? NEVAHHHHH!!!!!”

    Why do you think I want him to retire!

  74. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    “Sign the Cuban kid instead.”

    He will cost money…..

  75. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    “The Mets like Michael Bourn, but their interest in the free agent outfielder has been limited by draft pick compensation rules, according to John Harper of the New York Daily News (all Twitter links). Any team that signs Bourn will have to surrender a draft pick, since the Scott Boras client declined the Braves’ qualifying offer earlier in the offseason.

    The Mets would have to surrender their first round draft pick to sign Bourn, and they prefer to keep the 11th overall selection. This prompted Mets people to seek a ruling from MLB that would allow them to keep their top pick and surrender a second round choice instead, Harper reports. Though there doesn’t appear to be a final ruling yet, so far it seems unlikely that the Mets would be granted an exception. Even if MLB does allow a change in this instance, Bourn’s price would have to fall for the Mets to complete a deal, Harper writes.”

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Osx96U5thyAfjeoR.99

    What??

  76. Cashmoney January 24th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Mets are more likely to sign Jason Bourne.

  77. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    @BNightengale: The #Dbacks will now try to package SS Nick Ahmed and pitching prospect in trade for #Tigers starter Rick Porcello, one NL official says

    Plot thickens….how about we jump in on this….we could use a SS
    ——————

    Sign the Cuban kid instead.

    ——————

    Trade for Porcello, pitching is key!!

  78. randy l. January 24th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    “Plus, Montero could get better. Ibanez, Bay, Morse and some of the others have no chance.

    So it’s worth being patient with him.

    And btw, the Yankees don’t currently have a better catching option than Montero.”

    rich in nj-

    plus it’d be interesting and entertaining to watch montero develop as a catcher. there would have been all kinds of debates. that’s good for the yankees. they want to be talked about.

    watching cervelli and stewart just doesn’t have much back page potential for news.

    montero on the other hand would have created interest and people pulling for him.

    right now , the catcher position with the yankees is a big yawn.

  79. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Maybe the Dbacks will suck and trade us Prado later

  80. Cashmoney January 24th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Team Italy would disagree with that Randy.

  81. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    randy – FWIW, I don’t think there are really Montero haters anywhere. Let’s see how Montero does being ‘the guy’ back there. I think with all those heavy bats, he should be getting a lot of good tips on how to improve as a hitter. Wedge was a catcher, so I think he’ll be able to make Montero’s catching work for the club.

    Now, it’ll be interesting to see how they handle him if he struggles early. If they stay the course or if they call up Zunino.

  82. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    What??

    —————–

    The Mets are trying to play the ‘we’re so bad please feel sorry for us and change the rules’ card. ……It might work, but if it does it will only be because Selig made Sandy take over and owes him one lol.

  83. AAA January 24th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    What??

    ====================

    As I understand it, the first 10 picks in the draft are protected in the case of a type A free agent signing. The Mets were had the 10th worst record in MLB last year but got bumped to 11th pick in the upcoming draft because the Pirates get a comp pick for not being able to sign the kid from Stanford last year that they took with the 8th pick in the draft.

    I actually think they have a pretty legit gripe, but I doubt it will work their way.

  84. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    I talked about this a little yesterday.. Cervelli playing in the WBC is a negative because a) he isn’t working with our pitchers and b) the coaches can’t see him every day….? Is that right?

    I would think they’d get a better sense of his ability if he’s playing against higher competition.

  85. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    And what makes you think this is a playoff team?

    The goal is for the 2013 to make the playoffs, and it’s a reasonable goal to have. It’s mostly the same team as last year which had the best record in the AL.

    Almonte has not played a single game above AA, do you really think he can make the jump to the big leagues? He would be a black hole offensively, something the Yankees can’t afford.

    A lineup with Granderson in LF and Nunez at DH makes much more sense. Travis Hafner, Kelly Johnson, Luke Scott would all contribute more than Almonte.

  86. G. Love January 24th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Chip,

    I trust, and I use the word “trust” loosely, Cashman to sign TOP free agents. The obvious guys. The CC’s. The stars. The guys who warrant mega-deals.

    Outside of that? I don’t trust his instincts as a GM. His instincts were to tear it all down and build around Hughes, Joba and Kennedy and then he scrapped that bought all the best free agents, got a title and now is going back to the failed plan.

    He never finds the happy medium plan. Where you sign obvious guys to fillon organizational holes while you wait for talent to develop in the system.

    He only knows how to spend like a drunken sailor or pretend he’s a pauper. He’s one of the worst GM’s, I think, in baseball and if it weren’t for Jeter, Mo, Andy, Bernie, Posada, etc. who set a standard here and changed the culture here, Cashman wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. The guys he gets excited about acquiring like Javy Vazquez and the broken down version of Nick Johnson flop here more often than not.

    Saying I have any confidence in the guy as GM is tough because I honestly don’t. I do think when Daddy gives him the debit card without limits he does a fine job offering more money than anyone else. And for the record, I bet Randy Levine could do just as swell a job in that scenario. That takes no skill.

    What takes skill is knowing who to trade, who to keep, who to sign. How to look forward to team weaknesses and addressing them two steps ahead of the problem.

    He gets so much credit for getting Swisher in recent years that it has blinded fans to how much he’s screwed up. Whether that is from his judgment or Hal’s interference, only the principals involved know.

    But the fact is, he took the job, he took the money and he took the title of GM. If he doesn’t like the way the owners are asking him to run the team he could leave at any moment for those perennial jobs in Seattle and Philly we so often hear about from Cashman’s media flacks when his contract is coming up.

    I don’t blame Hal for everything because I think the guy who is running his team has no idea how to fix this team as the Hall of Famers he inherited slowly walk out the door.

    Can Cashman sign Pujols with Daddy’s bank card? Sure. So could you. He’s not Jerry Maguire in the living room. He’s the bank manager who knows the combination to the vault.

  87. jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    I don’t see how a pendulum is swinging anywhere.. do you feel your rights are in jeopardy?

    The right I feel I don’t have is to speak freely and honestly without being called a “closet racist”.

  88. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    I really didnt expect the Yankees to make a trade until they saw if Matt Garza was healthy….pitching !

  89. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    whatever.

    Whatever? It makes no sense for Almonte to start or even make the team for that matter. .278/.322/.488 in AA last year. And you think that translates to a starting spot on a playoff team? Please.
    —————-

    The Yankees are willing to go with a combination of Cervelli, Romine, Wilson and Stewart behind the plate but you don’t think Almonte has a shot to crack the lineup…that sounds like the epitome of hubris to me.

  90. blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: as of today, #nats & #braves may be 2 best teams in baseball

    I think they are top to bottom…..no holes. Like the Nats a bit better cause of their rotation but the Braves have the offense and pen edge…..

  91. Tyler January 24th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Yeah that’s a pretty rough deal for the Mets…. typical Mets luck though.

  92. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    I don’t see how a pendulum is swinging anywhere.. do you feel your rights are in jeopardy?

    The right I feel I don’t have is to speak freely and honestly without being called a “closet racist”.

    ———

    It depends on what you’re saying to be honest.

  93. jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    I don’t know why people would talk about Almonte or Mesa when Mustelier has hit better than both of them.

    It’s because he’s short, isn’t it? ;)

  94. Tyler January 24th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
    @JonHeymanCBS: as of today, #nats & #braves may be 2 best teams in baseball

    I think they are top to bottom…..no holes. Like the Nats a bit better cause of their rotation but the Braves have the offense and pen edge…..
    ———————————————————————

    I think Fredi Gonzalez is an idiot though. The Braves look great on paper but have choked and butchered big games down the stretch the past 2 seasons. Nats had a brutal loss last postseason too but I think they are a stronger bet to overcome that.

  95. Against All Odds January 24th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Give us an example

  96. AAA January 24th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    I think they are top to bottom…..no holes. Like the Nats a bit better cause of their rotation but the Braves have the offense and pen edge…..

    ==============================

    Don’t think the Braves really have an offensive edge. No legit leadoff hitter and the gap between the Nats infield offense and the Braves’ isn’t much smaller than that of the Braves outfield offense over the Nats.

  97. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Fredi is bad….but this braves team is almost idiot proof if they pitch…..a lot depends on if Beachy comes back…..if Medlin repeats….if Minor progresses. There is a fairly significant gap between their rotation and the Nats IMO…..the Nats are seriously loaded….there isn’t a real hole anywhere

  98. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    The Yankees are willing to go with a combination of Cervelli, Romine, Wilson and Stewart behind the plate but you don’t think Almonte has a shot to crack the lineup…that sounds like the epitome of hubris to me.

    I have hubris or the Yankees have hubris? Makes no sense …

    The Yankees claim that they are focused on defense first at the catcher position. We have seen from their past that they value offense much more at the corner outfield spots. There is no way Almonte is the starting LF coming out of spring, I would actually be mildly surprised if he’s on the major league team at all in 2013.

    You still refuse to address the fact that Almonte is nowhere near ready for the major leagues.

  99. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    “Don’t think the Braves really have an offensive edge. No legit leadoff hitter and the gap between the Nats infield offense and the Braves’ isn’t much smaller than that of the Braves outfield offense over the Nats.”

    It’s close….think the Nats had some career year guys like Laroche and Espinosa though and I think the braves have a couple of guys in Heyward and Upton that could seriously break out and fight for the mVP…..plus mcCann should be healthier. Of course Harper could erase that I guess if he has his coming out party…..the Nats are really really good

  100. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    @BaseballAmerica: No. 1 North Carolina and No. 8 N.C. State have fans in North Carolina excited about the college baseball season. http://t.co/Fy7wPf7p

    Go heels!

  101. Tyler January 24th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Yeah I would give the Nats the top spot at this point. A lot of potential on the Braves but I think there are also a lot of question marks even with these big moves. Nats seem like more of a sure thing (but that’s why they play the games!).

    I still think Fredi finds a way to mess things up. Probably will throw Kimbrel 3 innings a game, blowing his arm out by June.

  102. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Harper is a big X factor…..if he goes from nice player to superstar then the Nats will be hard to stop with that rotation

  103. RadioKev January 24th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Why are we talking about a drop in african-americans in baseball but not about an extremely disproportionate number of caucasians in pro basketball?

    Sometimes I think the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction…
    ————

    Mostly because this is a baseball blog.

  104. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: Rays To Sign Luke Scott http://t.co/s8yGBfUV #mlb

  105. J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    I entirely agree with Patrick that ZoIlo is not ready. I was actually the first poster here to anticipate he might be a dark horse for making it uP here but despite having sOme tools he is just not there yet.

    He really needs work on his of reads especially and as a SH he needs more development time I would not like to see him rushed like Melky was. What he has is real Lh power always worth monitoring a guy like that and doubles speed as well as being athletic but he’s not there Nd you can just forget about LF in YS for now if he were to get hot and get a call he’d get his feet wet in right I would say. Sorry for typos I’m in car.

  106. 86w183 January 24th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Why are we talking about a drop in african-americans in baseball but not about an extremely disproportionate number of caucasians in pro basketball?

    ****************************************************************************

    And because White Men Can’t Jump

  107. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    The right I feel I don’t have is to speak freely and honestly without being called a “closet racist”.

    ———————

    squat – Everyone has the right to say what they want. I don’t think the ‘closet racist’ remark (made on twitter, btw, no made about anyone here just to clarify) is in reference to an individual thought/mind frame as it is to a larger issue of a sort of social/cultural subconscious.

    Not discussing it doesn’t improve anything for anyone for the most part. It just covers things up and supports a misleading notion that racism no longer exists and isn’t a factor.

    I think we’ve discussed this before, and without making a big thing of it again I can only speak from experience: I grew up being told I could do whatever guys can do, that I’m equal. It was a blatant lie and I’m reminded of it almost every day lol. So as a not-so-real-minority, I feel for people that have it much worse based on something they cannot control. 75 cents for every dollar is only the tip of the iceberg. We’ve come a long way, but there’s always room to improve. I can’t wait till I get paid like a dude ;)

  108. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    (In fairness to NYC, statistics show women make 80 cents for every dollar their male counterparts make here, so we’re getting closer, 5 cents at a time! Not sure the national numbers match that, however.)

  109. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    @TBTimes_Rays

    Hearing #Rays are set to re-sign DH Luke Scott. And have confirmed Farnsworth deal.

  110. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    I’m saying the hubris is yours.

    You have absolutely no idea what’s going to happen with the Yankees (neither do I for that matter) but I’m so sick and tired of the BS nonsense from some of you saying they won’t do this or they will do that as if you’re somehow wired in.

    My point on Almonte is that if the Yankees don’t make another move then whether he’s ready or not, Almonte in LF and Granderson at DH might be the best option that the Yankees have you jack wad.

  111. J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Listen to ZoIlo interview chad posted first thing he says he needs work on is defense smart kid

  112. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    The Nats are the favorite in that division, IMO… I’m still waiting for the Phillies to do something that actually helps them. Those fans must be more annoyed than we are!!

  113. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    So if you’re chipper jones and know the braves just added 2 Uptons and need a 3B are you having 2nd thoughts about that whole retirement thing

  114. mick January 24th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    I would trade Joba as soon as possible. Some team must think he’s a starter.
    His tweets are killing me….

  115. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    you jack wad.

    —————–

    Bad form, Chip.

    Still think it’s more likely they go with Nunez as a DH than Grandy. Isn’t it more likely Mesa gets a shot if that’s the case since he’s already been around the big boys?

    What the hell were they doing with Dickerson…… I still don’t get it.

  116. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    @Buster_ESPN

    General perception of D-Backs among rival execs: 1) They have a very good, underrated team for ’13. 2)Squandered a lot of value this winter.

  117. J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Abe is more ready than Z and could play left right now. Does not have the power Z does but is gardneresques with better hit tOol but seems tO get hurt a lot

  118. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    you jack wad.

    —————–

    Bad form, Chip.

    Still think it’s more likely they go with Nunez as a DH than Grandy. Isn’t it more likely Mesa gets a shot if that’s the case since he’s already been around the big boys?

    What the hell were they doing with Dickerson…… I still don’t get it.
    ———-

    Yeah it was over the line – sorry Patrick.

    I’m not sure that Mesa’s a better player than Almonte.

    Dickerson was released. He’s a 30 year old career minor leaguer. If the Yankees needed a LH fourth OF then he would still be with the team.

  119. Patrick January 24th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Chip,

    I have hubris and I’m a jack wad? Dial it back a notch tiger … No need for insults.

    And it’s already been established that the Yankees have better in house options than Almonte. They don’t have to sign another player to assemble a better lineup. Granderson in LF and Nunez at DH is superior to Almonte and Granderson.

    I’m not wired in but simple logic tells you Almonte won’t be on the 2013 team. As questionable as some of the Yankees moves have been, they will still pick the best 25 players on the roster. Almonte is not one of those 25. The catcher situation is different. The best options are Romine, Stewart, Cervelli so that’s who we will see on the opening day roster. The best options for the outfield don’t include Almonte. It literally makes no sense for them to start Almonte unless there are a series of injuries.

  120. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Abe is more ready than Z and could play left right now. Does not have the power Z does but is gardneresques with better hit tOol but seems tO get hurt a lot
    —————

    I agree that Abe might be the more ready of the two Almontes – but I don’t think the Yankees would go with a no power outfield.

  121. bruceb January 24th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Never thought I would see the day when I would swap virtually every single player in the Yankees lineup – both hitting and pitching – for the Washington Nationals. But, hey, guess what folks, that day has finally arrived.

  122. J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Chip you can say what you like but you do things like put up Yankee lineups with for Corban Joseph at 2b and like that is not happenIng cano or nO cano if you would seejoseph regularly you’d know why it Aint

  123. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    bruceb says:
    January 24, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    Never thought I would see the day when I would swap virtually every single player in the Yankees lineup – both hitting and pitching – for the Washington Nationals. But, hey, guess what folks, that day has finally arrived.

    I wouldn’t swap cano for Espinosa ….

  124. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Yeah, no Luke Scott!

  125. jacksquat January 24th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    (In fairness to NYC, statistics show women make 80 cents for every dollar their male counterparts make here, so we’re getting closer, 5 cents at a time! Not sure the national numbers match that, however.)

    Men have to pay for the dates so it evens out. :)

  126. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    If Nunez earns the DH spot this spring, so be it but I don’t think it will be handed to him.

    What I said is that a strong spring could propel Almonte into a starting role. Much like a strong spring could propel Nunez into a starting role at DH.

  127. Chip January 24th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Chip you can say what you like but you do things like put up Yankee lineups with for Corban Joseph at 2b and like that is not happenIng cano or nO cano if you would seejoseph regularly you’d know why it Aint

    —————–

    I’ve never said that I know what the Yankees will or won’t do, just what I would do if I had Cashman’s job.

  128. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    If it’s power they want then no one in the system seems to fit the bill (Man-ny, Man-ny, MAN-NY!!).

    I get the general thinking on Dickerson, but his bat was translating well last year. It’s a really small sample, but he seemed like he could be a guy hitting for average and he was so hot on RHPs. I wish they would have let him play a little more last year when Grandy clearly needed a rest… I’d be more comfortable with Dickerson as the 4th OFer than any of the AA or AAA guys right now, who still have stuff to work on.

  129. Rich in NJ January 24th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    “Men have to pay for the dates so it evens out. ”

    Plenty of women pay want to pay a percentage of dating expenses now.

  130. blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Cashman can announce the Chase Headley trade now any time!

  131. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Men have to pay for the dates so it evens out. :)

    ———————–

    If I ask a guy out, I always expect and offer to pay. Always. ;)

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock January 24th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Ok but based on what? Joseph can’t really Play 2b for instance it
    KindA matters what mil player’s name gets thrown onto these speculative lists if you want to put any real thought ii to them yeah I guess the Yankees could do something fool

  133. Shame Spencer January 24th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    blake January 24th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Cashman can announce the Chase Headley trade now any time!

    —————-

    Lets go over here :arrow: and try to get Headley and Gordon again!!

  134. Duh Innings II January 24th, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    Scott Hairston showed he’s another bum all about the money and security not winning by signing with the lowly Cubs.

    Enjoy two losing seasons with the Cubs, herb.

    At least he and Justin “Overrated” Upton remain in the National League.


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