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Best case, worst case: Third base

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 25, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I haven’t written posts for any other positions ahead of time, but right now, it’s hard for me to imagine a more extreme best case, worst case than at third base. One hip surgery, a reclamation project, a 20-year-old, and a guy who’s basically played one season in the past three years. What could possibly go wrong?

Best-case scenario
Too much of a good thing
Kevin Youkilis bounces back. Surgery does the trick for Alex Rodriguez. David Adams rakes in Triple-A. The Yankees best-case scenario at third base is a problem of overcrowding.

In Youkilis and Rodriguez, the Yankees have two elite talents, each of whom has fallen significantly (and quickly). As recently as 2011, Youkilis had an .833 OPS. The year before that, it was .975. If some of last season’s decline can be explained by bad luck — the Yankees think that was part of it — and some of it can be corrected with slight mechanical tweaks, Youkilis could be a powerful and patient hitter again at 33 years old. If Rodriguez’s lack of power was caused by a gradually worsening hip problem that reached its breaking point — Dr. Bryan Kelly thinks that was part of it — and surgery can truly help Rodriguez regain his explosiveness, he just might be able to return to his 2010 form (.270/.341/.506) — or, if you really want to dream big, his 2009 form (.286/.402/.532). Hard to imagine, even in a best-case world, that Rodriguez can be an MVP candidate again, but a guy who draws walks and hits some homers might not be out of the question.

And if things go really well, it won’t only be Youkilis and Rodriguez available at third base. Adams finally returned from an ankle injury to hit .306/.385/.450 in Double-A last season. He hit for more power than that before the injury, and if his power picks up again in Triple-A — he did slug .538 in August last year – Adams could legitimately push for big league at-bats before September. Ronnier Mustelier, Corban Joseph and Russ Canzler have also shown enough upper-level offense to suggest they could be viable options at third base if necessary. Add in a bounceback year from 20-year-old Dante Bichette to restore his prospect status and the Yankees could have immediate production, short-term options and long-term potential at third base.

Worst-case scenario
Everything falls apart
The amazing thing about the Yankees third-base situation is that absolutely nothing seems assured. The Yankees can more or less count on Mark Teixeira and Curtis Granderson hitting for power, Brett Gardner and Ichiro Suzuki providing some speed, and Robinson Cano and CC Sabathia being well above average at their positions. But third base could reach some significant lows if things go really badly.

The worst-case scenario isn’t Rodriguez never getting healthy, it’s Rodriguez getting healthy and still not deserving an everyday job. If the surgery is a success but doesn’t bring back some of Rodriguez’s hitting ability, then the Yankees will be in real trouble for 2013 and beyond, with no reasonable hope of being able to fix their highest paid player. Rodriguez’s replacement, Youkilis, has seen his OPS go from .975 to .833 to .745 in the past three years. If that sort of decline continues, the Yankees best source of right-handed power on the left side of the infield just might be unproven Canzler, which isn’t reassuring.

Down in Triple-A, both Adams and Mustelier have shown promise, but Adams doesn’t have much of a track record for a guy who’s about to turn 26, and that’s even more true for 28-year-old Mustelier. Adams certainly has potential, and Mustelier seems fairly advanced as a hitter, but it’s not out of the question that one or both of those two could flop and never see the big leagues. Same for Bichette, who had everyone’s attention following a terrific 2011 season, only to lose that attention with a three-homer season in 2012. The worst-case scenario at third base doesn’t only leave the Yankees without a viable option for this year, it leaves them without an answer any time in the foreseeable future.

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234 Responses to “Best case, worst case: Third base”

  1. Chip January 25th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Debbie Downer Cashman already painted the worst case when he went on the air today and said that Alex could miss the whole season.

    Actually the best case scenario is Alex retires due to injury and insurance picks up his contract just freeing up money for the Yankees to improve going forward without this millstone tied around their necks – one that will be even worse when/if they give Cano his contract.

  2. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    If any of you think the vituperations (credit to Tom) on this board are vociferous (or as Clyde says vorciferous) then wait till you see the effect the minions of Yankee fans will/might have if/when Hal stinks up the joint for real.

    As someone said life is too short to start the vindictive prematurely…let’s wait and see…nothing we can do about it now.

  3. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    You go mick!

  4. David in Cal January 25th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    I’d guess that even if the Yanks collect part of ARod’s salary from insurance, his full salary would still go into the calculation for the salary cap penalties. Is that right?

  5. tomingeorgia January 25th, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    repost
    austin,
    Didn’t say I was sitting and waiting, I’m watching and waiting. There’s too much to do in life to sit. Just have to attend to things that I can do, like fight with the IRS, not the things I cannot, like filling the Yankee’s roster. Love the passion here, not the vituperation. No one here knows any of the people they try to tear to shreds on a daily basis for mortal sins alleged to have been committed. I’ll wait for the team on the field to tell me whether they were right or wrong in their baseball judgments. Thank the Lord, that’s not too far off.
    ——–
    Thanks for the citation, Mr. mick!

  6. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    randy l. January 25th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    my position on hal is that he is such a bad owner that the yankees will not be the real yankees for long under him unless the backlash from “real” yankees fans makes him rethink his austerity program for the yankees.

    if fans just line up for tickets and support the laundry ,where is the incentive for hal to put out a better product?

    how is this not enabling bad ownership?

    i’m all for boycotting the yankees and pressuring hal to go do something else in his life thats more interesting to him.
    mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    i’m all for boycotting the yankees and pressuring hal to go do something else in his life thats more interesting to him.
    ==================
    you are not alone…remember the mid to late 60?s?
    Red Barber got fired for reporting there were under a 1000 fans at the Stadium.

    ======================================================
    mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    If any of you think the vituperations (credit to Tom) on this board are vociferous (or as Clyde says vorciferous) then wait till you see the effect the minions of Yankee fans will/might have if/when Hal stinks up the joint for real.

    As someone said life is too short to start the vindictive prematurely…let’s wait and see…nothing we can do about it now.
    ======================================
    Funny how both posts were at 6:06 on different threads.
    Both say basically the same thing, 2013 being the bridge year.
    It’s actually a big year, in that it will buy Hal time if they are successful.

  7. Ys Guy January 25th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    i heard the cashman interview, he was asked directly by joe benigno if it was possible that arod could miss the whole season and he answered it honestly. he then said he didnt think that was going to be the case.

  8. matthew friedberg January 25th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Worst case is arod comes back and is the same old arod and his contract gets paid, best case is he misses this season and youkilis performs at 3b then the yankees get insurance money back on a rod and maybe he realizes he has to retire. Dante bichette jr or David Adams perform at a major league level or they take that money from a rod and throw it at chase headley. Lol it sounds like a dream but hey a yankee fan can only hope can’t I? More realistic though is Hal is either going to sell the team or he’s gonna realize fans are not gonna spend the money they charge for the team he’s putting on the field. The damn tax he’s gonna get hit with is paid by the fans w the purchase of alcohol tickets food and every damn souvenir that parents used to buy but can no longer afford to bring a family to a game. Either he sells or realizes he needs to spend money on a winning team for the fans and his pocket. The past contracts will always haunt the yankees but over time they will be paid off and gone. That doesn’t mean give up on the damn team until that happens though.

  9. Giuseppe Franco January 25th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Like the vast majority of the Lohud masses here, I’m not exactly thrilled about the direction of the team over the next few years.

    But I also understand that the Yanks’ long and sustained run of October Baseball is extremely difficult to do in any sport regardless of payroll and is going to come to an end sooner or later.

    I just hope we are not witnessing the beginning of another long playoff drought that plagued the franchise during the 80s and early 90s (or the late 60s and early 70s for you older Yankee fans).

  10. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I told anyone who would listen Arod was going to miss the entire 13 season

  11. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    and said it back in December..so there

  12. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Chip, so Cash thinks Alex will in fact be back. That “out for season” scenario was based on a question posed by the interviewer asked. Anything else Cash said?

    Chad, speaking of 3B, I am excited to see Andujar’s second year in the States. He may have as much if not more upside than anyone else in the system. As for Corban, I cannot see them letting him field 3B.

  13. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    The Stadium will be full early in the season as fans will not revolt when the team is winning.
    And I am confident they will win the East again.
    The pitchin’ is the best in the division …..
    …. so get yer b*tchin’ in now.

  14. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    NYY are 50/50 to make playoffs this year the way the team looks now

  15. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    I say the following with complete objectivity. I believe that Pukey is going to come through for the Yankees in a big way. And out of respect for the pinstripes, I am going to try to refer to him as Kevin and not Pukeface. This is not going to be easy but I’m going to step up to the plate – and hope I don’t strike out!

    :)

  16. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    and watch jeter ..not a sure thing he plays SS like he has that was a big injury

  17. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    It will be too cold for the Stadium to be full early in the season. As for the pitching, the pitching hasn’t been the problem for a couple of years now… and it will continue to thrive.

    Levine’s already disputing what Cash said. Leave it to Randy to always get into the act. http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1248069

  18. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    When was the last time the team that “won” the off season won the division?
    Not the RS of 2010 or the Jays of 2013.
    The Yanks of 2009?
    Correct!
    Look out for the O’s , they just signed Jair Jurrgens.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    “There’s something rotten in the front office. It may be that the Stein’s are prepping for a sale. It may be that they want to see how far they can push the envelope on being a team that just contends and doesn’t try to solve the issues within needed to get the world series.

    I don’t know. But it’s fun, for some of us, to speculate. And this high handed moral authority that shows up here telling us just be grateful that baseball and the Yankees exist is like an atheist talking to a devout born again.

    What I myself, and many others, were upset about was the team became one dimensional and had too many hitters who couldn’t hit a ball that wasn’t fast and straight. It’s why they go into the slumps they do and why in the post season guys like Doug Fister make them look like the Bad News Bears.

    I’ve been very vocal saying there is no right or wrong way in being a fan. But somewhere over the past few years, some here have decided to tell many of us that the way we choose to be fans is wrong and I’m personally sick of it.

    And it has nothing to do with my home life or my personality. I’m happy. I do what I love for a living. I’m married to my best friend. Life is pretty good.

    That being said, baseball has always been for me a passion. My Dad & I passionately bonded over the Yankees and the Knicks. When George did what he did to Winfield we were both heartsick and furious at him and it took us time and his banishment to get over that. That said, he won us both back and before my Dad left the earth he got to see the ’96 & ’98 teams win titles with me.

    Being chastised by Pollyanna’s for being passionate fans who want to the team to be smarter and better run is like being handed a pamphlet by some zealot in the mall.

    Great. You’re just happy the team exists and makes it to the post season. I, too, was thrilled that Ibanez put the offense on his back and got us there last season.

    But watching Tex, Swisher, Granderson, Martin and Arod just wave their bats at breaking pitches has grown tiresome for a lot of us who know how rare it is to get that deep into the playoffs. We lived through the 80?s where we watched the Mets be the smarter run more entertaining team in the city. We lived through the early 90?s where the team was basically an independent league team plus Mattingly.

    I know every time they make it to the playoffs with Jeter, Mo and Andy at these ages could be the last time.

    But I’m entitled that I want them to win and I’m spoiled because I think the Yankees are playing cheap and not running the team in the right way by ignoring Cespedes, Darvish, etc.

    The fact is, for every Pollyanna fan there’s just as many passionate fans who like discussing every move and non-move. That was the language my Father and I and myself and many friends built bonds over. It wasn’t built over “The Yankees are so great and do no wrong!” It was built over, “Can you believe Maddux & Bonds don’t want to be Yankees?!” or “Can you believe they traded Buhner for Phelps?!!!”

    You want to wrap yourself up in a pinstripe blanket and be warm and fuzzy about it go right ahead. But stop telling people how to root for their favorite teams. No one is telling you how to root for it.

    Yes, should we be happy that made the ALCS? Absolutely. It just would’ve been nice to see them actually show up and play those games. That outcome was utterly predictable to those of us who had identified the problems this offense had since we won the title 2009.”
    ///

    This is just a partial piece of a great post by GLove.

    I concur. The post expresses my very feelings on this subject.

    It’s my Dad’s 90th birthday today, and no one was more of a dyed-in-the-wool Yankee fan than he.

    He saw Ruth and Gehrig play live, as well as Dimag and Mantle, et al. He and my aunt used to get snuck into The Original Yankee Stadium (before they renovated it) by construction workers; they were both very young children at the time, but my Father’s memories of Ruth & Gehrig were always vivid and specific and 3-dimensional in the telling. My Dad is in the spirit world now, but he still has that kind of Ruthian wink I bet…. of course, for me, my personal emphasis is that Ruth has a wink like my Dad’s ;).

    Sharing those titles with your Dad – I know just what you are talking about and it’s finally something ineffable.

    My Father never went in for that rah-rah corporate crap in his life and that’s not how he rooted for the Yankees. They were part of him in that way that your growing up years constantly intersect with a team’s seasons and eras as they accumulate over the years; your history and the team’s are so intertwined.

    I don’t even understand this bizarre thing that goes on in here with certain people; I understand disagreements – heated and otherwise – but this fan etiquette thing has no place here; if anyone had said this kind of thing to my Father, he would have looked at them, puzzled, like they were speaking in tongues, and then would have turned to one of us and asked: “What the hell’s the matter with her?”

    To paraphrase Ray Bradbury, the genuine article, the “real”(sic) Yankee fan, never sums him/herself up.

  20. Ys Guy January 25th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    only a pessimist would predict arod missing the whole season, imo.

    i think he’ll be back for half the season, myself. he heals well. he doesnt stay healthy for long once he heals but he seems to work the rehab hard.

  21. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Bruins – 190 over the NYI tonight…Go Bruins

  22. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    Alex will do everything possible to be back this season. I have no doubt.

  23. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    Ys Guy January 25th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
    only a pessimist would predict arod missing the whole season, imo.

    i think he’ll be back for half the season, myself. he heals well. he doesnt stay healthy for long once he heals but he seems to work the rehab hard.

    ——————————————–
    not going to happen he sits out 13…..

  24. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    “After Yankee GM Brian Cashman said Friday that A-Rod could conceivably miss the year following offseason surgery on his left hip, president Randy Levine fired back saying the aging third baseman will in no uncertain terms be playing in the Bronx in 2013

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2J29nMqGt

    Levine worried about selling tickets? Or just having another tug of war with Cash?

  25. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    Levine thinks it will hurt ticket sales if fans think Arod is done for the season.

  26. Giuseppe Franco January 25th, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Yeah, joeman has always been a glass half full kind of Yankee fan.

    I don’t think I’ve ever read a single positive comment from him about this team in the last 3-4 years.

    Not everything this team has done in the last few years has been like getting a root canal.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    I’m with mick. I believe the Yanks will make the playoffs again.

    And I think that if win totals go down, it is going to be a direct result of our AL East neighbors to the far north. I’m still pretty wowed by what they did in their off season and can’t help but be happy for their fans. To quote Motel and Tevye, even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness!

  28. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    You can be sure Levine reported Cash to the Principal for that faux pas.
    If he knew anything about baseball perhaps he would want the job.
    Would like to know who he would support for GM.
    Cash might be better off in stealth mode..

  29. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Don’t count out the Rays. The only reason they weren’t in the mix last year was because of Longoria’s extended injury. If he stays healthy, I think their pitching will compensate for Big Game James.

  30. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Shields is a major loss.
    He’s a major horse..

  31. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Best case scenario: A-Rod bounces back quickly and they trade Youkilis for someone younger.

  32. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    Look for Gibbons to be fired by the ASB.
    Wake up Cito from his nap.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    Chad,

    Thanks for your take on Feliz. I don’t think, though, that Joseph has any chance to play 2B for the Yankees, so I don’t see him as really having more proximity to the position than Feliz.

    Feliz was hurt last year and didn’t even play in 50 games, but he did hit .279 over that period.

    Feliz may be in A ball – as Gumbs, who you mentioned, is – but he’s in high A and given his upside, if he stays healthy I think he could move pretty quickly.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if he has a real breakout year, provided he stays on the field.
    ///

    jacksquat – my wife of many years will be very interested to hear that my motive in being a feminist is just a veiled attempt to “get laid.”

    I can’t decide if you’re just thoroughly cynical or just gripped by fears, but it’s interesting that you would go so far afield on what you thought my “motives” actually were for writing that post on the treatment of women, rather than accepting what I said was my view at face value.

    Perhaps YOU can’t understand it, because YOU can’t see a man having any OTHER motive when it comes to discussing women’s issues and feminism. Yeah – I think that’s it.

    Any way, I showed your comments to my wife; we both had a good laugh.

    JF and Shame, thoughtful responses to the discussion.

    Shame, yes it was in response to a discussion. Thanks for understanding my point.

  34. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    for the *loss of BGJ

  35. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    “Levine worried about selling tickets? Or just having another tug of war with Cash?”

    That’s pretty interesting and perhaps revealing, so maybe both (a war that I don’t think Cashman can win, and he knows it, so maybe he wants to lose it?).

    When his butt isn’t on the line, Cashman is honest to a fault, so I’ll go with Cashman on this one.

  36. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    “being a feminist is just a veiled attempt to “get laid.””

    Didn’t that kind of lose it’s potency (no pun intended) in the ’70s?

  37. mick January 25th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    Send Youk back to Boston for Middlebrooks.
    Re-unite him with Pedro, the future GM, and Farrell, the future pitching coach.

  38. blake January 25th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Chip says:
    January 25, 2013 at 5:58 pm
    Blake –

    It didn’t help the Cano negotiations to have Cashman mock Cano and Boras when they suggested an extension two years ago

    Nope

  39. blake January 25th, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    The best case scenario at 3B is actually a trade for Chase Headley before August

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    You know I hear lots of references from G. Love and J Al, and I look around and wonder exactly who has said the things to which they make reference?

    Is the point that it’s not okay for me to voice the way I feel about the Yankees but it’s okay for you guys to be as strident and cranky as you want about the Yankee organization, the team, and everything else in the world? You’re here constantly giving your opinion, yet if I come on and talk about how I feel as a fan, are you so threatened that you have to go off on some kind of tangent?

    Maybe we can get one thing straight. My opinion is as valuable as any other opinion on this board. So if I choose to wax poetice about my feelings about the Yankees, I don’t give a rat’s patootie if it makes any of you uncomfortable. Get over yourselves. You apparently don’t give a rat’s patootie about anyone else when you are railing here about your disdain, disappointment, or anything else. Is there something that gives you standing here that I somehow don’t have, other than in your own minds?

    We who enjoy the game as it is have as much right to come here and cheer about that as you have to come here and give your version. So can we please stop this holier-than-though bullsh*t coming from your end of the field? I don’t tell people here they should think the way I do. Don’t pretend that I do.

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    “being a feminist is just a veiled attempt to “get laid.””

    Didn’t that kind of lose it’s potency (no pun intended) in the ’70s?
    ///

    Um, apparently not…? Pretending it doesn’t exist, though, seems to never go out of fashion!

  42. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Pruf

    I was just having fun. I don’t doubt your sincerity or your character.

  43. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    blake January 25th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
    The best case scenario at 3B is actually a trade for Chase Headley before August
    ___________
    Hamilton
    JUpton
    Headley :mrgreen:

  44. austinmac January 25th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    When you have a daughter feminism is very easy thing to support. If only we all could walk in others shoes and understand a little bit.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Pruf

    I was just having fun. I don’t doubt your sincerity or your character.
    ///

    Damn, why didn’t I put a smiley? Judging from your earlier posts, I think we are both on the “wanting to get laid” side of the issue :roll: :D

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    austinmac January 25th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    When you have a daughter feminism is very easy thing to support. If only we all could walk in others shoes and understand a little bit.
    ///

    Yes. Empathy.

  47. Against All Odds January 25th, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
    blake January 25th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
    The best case scenario at 3B is actually a trade for Chase Headley before August
    ___________
    Hamilton
    JUpton
    Headley
    —————-

    Who comes after Headley if they miss out on him?

  48. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    “being a feminist is just a veiled attempt to “get laid.””
    _______
    I concur. It’s the only reason why I am a feminist. :mrgreen:

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    blake January 25th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
    The best case scenario at 3B is actually a trade for Chase Headley before August
    ___________
    Hamilton
    JUpton
    Headley :mrgreen:
    ///

    LMAO

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    “being a feminist is just a veiled attempt to “get laid.””
    _______
    I concur. It’s the only reason why I am a feminist. :mrgreen:
    ///

    :D

  51. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Odds, Stanton. ;)

  52. blake January 25th, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    “Who comes after Headley if they miss out on him?”

    Uhm….

  53. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Don’t know if this is sub only, but it looks like we have some studly pitching prospects coming from NJ:

    http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=19480

  54. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Don’t worry, if we get either Headley or Stanton, we will flip whomever we get for Garza.

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    YF, I have a ticket to the Yankee event for February 4th, where members of the organization and team will be there in a hotstove session. It’s a fundraiser for Carlos Silva. I’d love you to have the ticket if you can possibly make it to the event.

  56. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    austinmac, Pruf, hear hear.

  57. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    “think we are both on the “wanting to get laid” side of the issue”

    I’m in favor of it. :)

    ___

    I am not a participant in the child rearing area, but I think it’s possible to become a feminist by looking at the experience of women in my mom’s generation (not many of whom went to, let alone graduated, college), and realize what a shame it was that these women didn’t have more choices. Not that being a stay at home mom isn’t great, again, as long as it’s your choice (and btw, I realize it’s harder to do economically than it was years ago).

    /ramble

  58. RMS January 25th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Best case scenario: A-Rod bounces back quickly and they trade Youkilis for someone younger.
    ====================================================
    No other team wants Youk, not with a 12 million price tag. Plus he’s on the downside of his career.

  59. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    trisha, I am touched; that is so sweet of you. However, I cannot go because I am still rehabbing my broken ankle. I will however meet you for a game in Pawtucket at some future date or in the NY metro area, if you get down this way. :)

  60. blake January 25th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    yankeefeminista says:
    January 25, 2013 at 7:21 pm
    Don’t worry, if we get either Headley or Stanton, we will flip whomever we get for Garza.

    Or just trade for Garza to begin with

  61. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    ‘No other team wants Youk, not with a 12 million price tag. Plus he’s on the downside of his career.”

    Well, I said best cause. Perhaps I should have said fantasy case?

    But you’re probably right. It’s one thing to overpay when you are a limitless spender. It’s another when you are on a budget. That’s why it’s so hard to have confidence in how this team is currently run.

  62. G. Love January 25th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    trisha,

    At first I thought you were misunderstood. I would get upset when I saw people ganging up on you on here. But then I realized after reading enough of your posts that you bait people. That’s what you do. You look at what people are passionately discussing and then you poo-poo it to tweak them and then that spawned this “positive Yankee fan” nonsense that has been perpetuated here for years.

    Even when you’re not addressing me directly, you’re reading the posts I and others are talking about and baiting us with your “general” retorts by telling people what a great fan you are the way you are and how all of us are being ridiculous caring and speculating about things we don’t know. Ooooh.

    You have every right to do that, but you stir this nonsense up week after week and it’s not just me who reacts to it. I just can’t stand the passive aggressiveness of what you do on here like I’m sure you can’t stand my voice.

    Do I think you’re a Yankee fan? Sure.

    Do I think you come here to poke the bear more often than not? Yup.

    The only reason I’m responding to you is I’m tired of the antics and the weekly dust up. It’s boring. And I’m as much to blame for taking the bait. Like I did just now…and you’re secretly thrilled I did.

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Rich,

    My mother had jobs here and there but she was primarily a homemaker.

    She went to college on the GI bill (she was a WAVE) and excelled at languages and english.

    She also has an aptitude for music (had perfect pitch and won contests and sung on the radio, etc.), but her parents, who came over from Italy, weren’t disposed to give her lessons, etc, but her Father cheered her desire to go to college. She also had ambitions to be a pilot, but that wasn’t something “young ladies” did in her day….

    She did help put my Dad through law school, so in a sense, his triumphs were hers. But I bet if she had it to do over, she’d have explored some things that were, if not closed to her, not all that accessible…

  64. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco January 25th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    Yeah, joeman has always been a glass half full kind of Yankee fan.

    I don’t think I’ve ever read a single positive comment from him about this team in the last 3-4 years.

    Not everything this team has done in the last few years has been like getting a root canal.

    ————————————————-
    the cat is out of the bag after all these years and it’s 4

  65. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    YF – we are definitey on. I would have been proud if you were there at the event. Can’t think of a much more stable and sensible fan representative than you – and that includes me.

    :)

  66. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Rich, I wish my mom too had had more choices. She was artistic, athletic and fearless, and she’s lived a long and prosperous life, but she never got to realize many of her talents and was frustrated as a result of that.

  67. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Pruf

    I hear you. They weren’t (hopefully, aren’t for some) called the greatest generation for nothing.

    My mom didn’t go to college. My father was only able to go to college because CCNY was free.

  68. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Freezing here in Fairfield, CT by the shore.

  69. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    yf

    And she has gotten to see a world with more opportunities for you.

  70. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    trish, I don’t deserve such praise, but let’s definitely take in a game at some point.

  71. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Giuseppe Franco January 25th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    Yeah, joeman has always been a glass half full kind of Yankee fan.

    I don’t think I’ve ever read a single positive comment from him about this team in the last 3-4 years.

    Not everything this team has done in the last few years has been like getting a root canal.

    ———————————————–
    Went to my first NYY game in 1956…knock down a few beers with the Mick thru the years, gave R White horseracing tips in Fla when I went to ST 8 years in a row in FT Lauderdale…say what I see

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    YF – we are definitey on. I would have been proud if you were there at the event. Can’t think of a much more stable and sensible fan representative than you – and that includes me.
    ///

    I agree. Yankeefem is as stable and sensible a Yankee fan as there is. She:

    1). Hated the Montero trade
    2). Was incensed that Russell Martin was compared to Thurman Munson
    3). Thinks Cashman is a rotten GM
    4). Makes fun of Cashman’s and Girardi’s Fastian “catcher” defense co-opt.
    5). Thought we beer leagued our way through the regular season at the plate and anticipated we’d get skunked by legit pitching in the postseason
    6). Thought pitching was our strength and offense our weakness before Jan. 13
    7). Has ambitions for the team beyond winning 95 games and division titles
    8). Analyzes and discusses the farm
    9). Engages in expansive discussions on how Cashman has run the team into the ground

    Need I go on?

    Bravo, Yankeefem! :D

  73. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Rich, true, and I am grateful. However, I wish my mom had been able to explore her own gifts a little more.

    FiretheUmp, I can well imagine.

    Trish, how’s the weather in Rhody?

  74. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Saw a guy collected large beached clams in a bucket which I find kind of risky with all the sewage overflow and contaminants in the water caused by Sandy. What’s left of our beach, that is.

  75. pat January 25th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Cash with the clarification…….

    New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said there is “a chance” that Alex Rodriguez’s hip surgery could keep him out for the entire season.

    “It is possible,” Cashman said on ESPN New York 98.7 FM’s “Michael Kay Show.” “It is a very complicated surgery. Any time someone has a surgery, there is always a chance there are complications. That didn’t take place in this case. But is it possible? Sure, it is possible, but is it likely? I don’t think so.”

  76. pat January 25th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    oops. link

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....shman-says

  77. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
    Saw a guy collected large beached clams in a bucket which I find kind of risky with all the sewage overflow and contaminants in the water caused by Sandy. What’s left of our beach, that is.

    ————————————–
    feel for you peeps down there…

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Rich,

    Your folks knew how to raise their son. They must be very proud of you.

  79. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Pruf, touching what moms endure; she sounds similar to my mom. Her one big outlet is the Yankees. I am planning to take her to NYS on a milestone birthday this year. She loves her Yankees.

  80. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
    Rich,

    Your folks knew how to raise their son. They must be very proud of you.
    _______
    I’ll bet they are.

  81. Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    JAP

    Thanks. They have passed. I hope they were.

  82. jacksquat January 25th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Useless to post when people are just going to cherry pick one sentence…

    Then post out of context.

  83. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    $50,000 damage to my oceanfront, insurance adjustor MIA, contractor lagging, freezing cold, house on market, have to wipe my dogs paws before re-entry 2 times/day, brick patio buried beneath sand.

  84. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Rich, I agree as per above (to lazy to find the post :) ) that Cash is usually pretty honest.

    Pruf, now don’t give away all my not so secret secrets. ;) :)

  85. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    *too

  86. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    On the bright side, if these sea levels continue to rise, I may have beachfront.

  87. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Fire, from Hurricane Sandy, you mean?

  88. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Re Alex not playing possibly:

    All the more reason for us to sign this Cuban kid who we can stick at 3B, and reason to keep Adams playing 3B, hopefully in AAA.

    You know Youkilis is going down at some point. We’ll need insurance for the insurance.

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Rich in NJ January 25th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    JAP

    Thanks. They have passed. I hope they were.
    ///

    Oh, I’m sorry, man. Trust me, they are.

  90. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Rich, they know.

  91. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Yes, the bone-chilling air is salt in my wounds.

  92. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Pruf, Cuban kid may actually have age fraud issues…

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    G. Love, believe me, I don’t come here to bait anyone. The worst I may do is put up an opposing opinion if I think people are coming down too strongly.

    I don’t really care to be understood or not understood. I have the right to my opinion and I will continue to voice it.

    Paying close attention would show you that when I come here it’s typically to respond to one of Chad’s lead-ins.

    And if you truly believe I’m secretly thrilled to have you respond to my posts EVER, you really need some kind of head adjustment. You unfortunately have become one of my worst nightmares.

    Anyone who TRULY knows me here knows that I’m happiest when I don’t have to be warring with some disgruntled Yankee fan. I pretty much mind my own business and don’t single people out. I’d like the same in return.

    Please leave me alone and leave me out of your discussions. I promise to do the same in return.

  94. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    Maybe they will actually be forced to play Adams. Still not sure where Cash thinks we are going to make up for all the lost pop.

  95. randy l. January 25th, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    i love apple computer.

    i’m going to buy their next iphone that comes out whether it sucks or not.

    if it has the apple logo on it , that’s all i need.

    if other people want to abandon apple just because they are starting to put out lousy products, that’s their business, i’m a real apple fan and not a fair weather one.

    did i mention i’m a really good person if i say so myself.

  96. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Fire-

    I am very sorry to hear of your troubles.

  97. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    Here’s my positive take on 2013

    Just file all this under “Well, Lohud, you know, you just can’t predict baseball!”

    C- Cervelli secretly went to the Pena academy this winter and amazingly turns out to be the best defensive catcher in the AL. He also leads the team in in RISP and steals Shame’s heart from both Cano and Chad.

    1B- Tex after starting the year hitting .189 finally relents, and ends up leading the team not only in homers but bunts as well, who knew! Unfortunately the “juice” thing turned out to be a pyramid scheme and he is indicted. :sad:

    2B- Cano…. enough said.

    SS- Jeter using his new full figured body to his advantage hits 28 HR’s and ups both his SLG. and OPS. to record levels. In related news LGY denounces baseball and becomes a Gelato franchise billionaire.

    3B- Youk after only playing in 2 games, is in a freak batting practice accident. He gets beaned by Jobber from the Bull Pen and is out for season. Nunez is handed the job and and hits .280 with 36 SB’s and 15 Dingers.

    LF- Grandy striking out 1,189 times during the regular season signs an 3 yr extension for 1.89 million. (With 500k chipped in by the United Nations, just because ) Before the Post-Season he works out with Yogi for 1 day and he goes on to win ALCS mvp hitting .589 with 8 homers. Turns out his K problem was induced by KLong and easily correctable…DOH

    CF- Gardner becomes a skinny white version of Tony Gwynn. Hits .340 with 15 HR’s while swiping 189!! basses and playing GG quality CF. In fact Nunez, GGBG, and Ichiro lead the Yankees to the most stolen bases in MLB history!

    Ichiro- loving the short porch goes homer crazy and hits 35. His stretching routine goes viral and the creatures start a “Pilates ” ritual before his every AB. Bald Vinny in spandex on the big screen… not a pretty sight.

    DH- Last I checked Heyman was reporting that Cashman was pursuing James P.”Sully” Sullivan. Says he fits all the criteria they are looking for. Its rumored that he’s a Boras client though. Stay tuned.

    OK that was fun… at least for me. :D Back to my negative nelly ways tomorrow.

  98. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Pruf, touching what moms endure; she sounds similar to my mom. Her one big outlet is the Yankees. I am planning to take her to NYS on a milestone birthday this year. She loves her Yankees.
    ///

    Yankeefem – I’m sure she’ll enjoy that.

    I have found through the years that my mom has hidden talents, and probably frustrations. I’ll never forget her coming along with me when I bought my first car years and years ago. She was just along for the ride; I was buying it myself.

    The sales guy was sweating after being tortured by this tiny woman: at the end, she was saying: “the radio gets included…” the poor guy was like, “but lady…we have to make SOME profit….” She said, “we’re walking.” So she started to walk. …I was like, I need a car and I don’t care to split hairs to this degree …she just winked at me.

    The guy crawled out to us, defeated. She saved me some money :D

  99. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    If you only knew MTU. I bought a home with a (now x) girlfriend and she’s leaving for Costa Rica. Her half of the mortgage is coming from her parents and she’s probably going to expect me to get a roommate.

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    J Al – was the point that she agrees with your takes? I stopped reading because it was apparent the post was for your own aggrandizement and had little to do with YF.

    I don’t need your lists to tell me who she is. I read her posts. Whether I agree with everything she believes wasn’t the point. The point is that she is both stable and sensible in the way she presents herself. I think the same of austinmac though I don’t agree with some of his takes.

  101. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Pruf, Cuban kid may actually have age fraud issues…
    ////

    YF, How old can he be? Besides, the older he is, the more interested Cashman becomes, no?

  102. NYY_Girl_Penny January 25th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Another post.. another comment by Trisha blathering. So tiresome. Years later she is still doing the same thing, she has caused the blogs user numbers to dip because people are so tired of her ‘baiting’ and ‘antagonizing” with her “i’ve been here the longest superiority complex” and Pollyanna rhetoric, the irony is she is the MVP for being guilty of what she tells people not to do. I’ve seen right through her since I first joined this blog and G. Love you are so much more valuable here with your insight and contributions. Please don’t let her deter you too !

    Also you hit the nail on the head with,

    “trisha,

    At first I thought you were misunderstood. I would get upset when I saw people ganging up on you on here. But then I realized after reading enough of your posts that you bait people.”

    She is very good at baiting and attacking people and also gets others to gang up on them even when she is the cause of the unrest each and every time! I am sick of it, one of the reasons I don’t come here much anymore.

  103. RadioKev January 25th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    I really don’t think we’ve talked enough about Dan Johnson’s awesome nickname.

  104. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    did i mention i’m a really good person if i say so myself.
    ///

    lol

  105. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Fire-

    Your story makes me realize that what I though previously is true in some cases.

    That many people are still struggling with the aftermath of Sandy while the news media, politicians,
    and insurance adjusters have moved on to other more pressing matters.

    What a pile of crap. Literally and figuratively.

    To make matters worse your significant other is splitting leaving you holding the bag.

    Man that just sucks. I just hope that somehow things turn around for you.

    One of my Sisters and 87 y/o Mother lives in Jersey and they were w/o power for well over a week.

    I definitely empathize with your plight. What a frickin’ nightmare.

  106. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    J Al – was the point that she agrees with your takes? I stopped reading because it was apparent the post was for your own aggrandizement and had little to do with YF.

    ///

    trisha, your problem is, you can’t even compliment another poster without using that to stick a knife in others. I simply saw through it.

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue January 25th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Funny how a sock puppet (NYY_Girl_Penny) shows up out of nowhere when it’s piling on time. The same person who was new to the forum but talks about “years later.”

    How utterly sad that people have to resort to phony screenames to do their pile-ons. Talk about unstable.

    And with that I leave you to be as acerbic or as gracious as you choose to be. I leave the same way I showed up – wshing to be able to voice my opinion and not asking to have mine trump anyone else’s – just to be able to voice it without having certain parties spin out of control because they don’t like it.

    Night all!

  108. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Ugh, let’s cease and desist with the personal stuff. Vivi e lascia vivere!

  109. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Thank you MTU, I hope you’re safe and you take care.

  110. blake January 25th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Never thought Id be wishing for an Alfonso Soriano trade

  111. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    I expect to see .280/100/40+ from Gardner in 13 & and great years from Cervelli & joba

  112. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    18 days… 29 until a ST game, Yanks @Braves. Hope it is televised. Hope the whole Braves OF plays. Amazing.

  113. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    blake, sad, isn’t it?

  114. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Fire-

    My life, with all it’s ups and downs, is pleasant compared to what you seem to be going thru.

    May the trend of bad reverse soon and you find peace again.

  115. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Fire, good luck!

  116. austinmac January 25th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Tar, I enjoyed it too.

  117. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    me too.. need to get Soriano here love those HRs and the K’s that go with it…get him here quick

  118. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Thank you all, it means a great deal to me.

  119. FiretheUMPIRE January 25th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    more than you know..

  120. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Tar, lol.

  121. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    I don’t buy a word of it.

  122. austinmac January 25th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Fire, glad you keep posting. Good luck ahead.

  123. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    International Notes: Diaz, Dodgers, Medina
    By Zach Links [January 25 at 5:51pm CST]

    We’ll keep track of tonight’s international news right here..

    Major League Baseball is investigating the age of Cuban shortstop Aledmys Diaz, multiple sources told Ben Badler of Baseball America. Diaz is presenting himself as a 23-year-old but his birthdate conflicts with previous accounts that would make him 22 or 21. The age difference is crucial for Diaz as Cuban players with at least three years of professional experience in Cuba and who are at least 23 are exempt from the capped bonus pools.

    The Dodgers have signed 16-year-old Dominican outfielder Michael Medina for $275K, according to Badler. The 6-foot-2, 185 pound youngster has a projectable frame with good bat speed from the right side, power, and the ability to use the opposite field. He most likely projects as a corner outfielder

    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#7acBKaz1067jPpLI.99

  124. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    So, unlike the Dominicans, Diaz might be giving an older age in order to be exempt from teams’ IFA caps…

  125. randy l. January 25th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    everyone wants to be good.

    the fighting is over how to do it.

    the problem a whole lot of us have is that hal is not even trying.

    he doesn’t appear to have a competitive bone in his body.

    that’s kind of un-yankeelike.

  126. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Oh, my the Cuban kid is YOUNGER than 23? OK, we have no shot at him as we’d be cap impacted.
    :(

    Damn

  127. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Granderson’s walk year …290BA/90 RS/110 RBI/30HR’s….with 90 K’s

  128. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Ichiro- loving the short porch goes homer crazy and hits 35. His stretching routine goes viral and the creatures start a “Pilates ” ritual before his every AB. Bald Vinny in spandex on the big screen… not a pretty sight.
    ///

    lol Tar if you see this happening you’ll know where they got it.

  129. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Seriously, I’d love a few of the other Yankees to use an Ichiro stretching routine. I’d especially love to see Hughes and our pitchers generally become more limber.

  130. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Thanks Mac. Obviously I was a little bored. :D

    I find about the only way I can be positive (at all) about this team is to take it player by player. Big picture is not a pretty sight.

    “I expect to see .280/100/40+ from Gardner in 13 ”

    Joeman is that you?

  131. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Maybe instead of the “wave” Yankee fans can do the ” Ichi stretch”. HAHA

    Ok maybe not :D

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    I’d be over the moon if Grandy hit .290 and Brett .280.

  133. J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    They have to sell Ichi-rolls at the sushi stand, that’s for sure.

  134. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock January 25th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
    I’d be over the moon if Grandy hit .290 and Brett .280.
    ——————-
    going to happen I just feel it

  135. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Tar, re: being positive… It helps to be able to watch our minor league players ( = hope), although there is always the fear that they will get jettisoned out of the Yankee system we ever get to see them wearing the Pinstripes.

    As for the wave; it’s even more prevalent in NYS, whereas it would get booed down by many in OYS. Just another current Yankee reality.

  136. Barry January 25th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Tar–

    Keep up the good work.

  137. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Seriously… Gardner is my big surprise candidate for next year. He will perfect the “Gwynn 5.5 hole slap”…… .320

  138. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    *before we ever get to… etc.

    I’d be happy if Grandy hit lefties better, ditto Cano reverting to form (2012 outlier), and Gardner stayed reasonably healthy.

  139. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Don’t see the Hal dealing off prospects when he views them as cheap commodities.
    Besides, he’d be dealing them for players that cost money.

  140. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    I’m happy that Jay-Z can use his Blackberry in silence in the half-filled “good seats,” but how much does it stink that the Mets have a better stadium than we do? Yeah, I said it, and you know it’s true

    ————————–

    Driving up the Deegan one early AM a few seasons back (on my way up to Boston to see AJ get shelled by the Sox!) and seeing the stadium for the first time in the early light, I realized that the stadium, as a structure, is gorgeous.

    But yeah, there is definitely something missing once you get inside. It’s kind of soulless.

  141. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Pruf, don’t hold your breath; they didn’t sell Godzilla rolls that I recall… but maybe I am misremembering,/i>. ;)

    Nice to see Winnipeg again having a hockey team. Wish Quebec still did.

  142. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Fire, I’ve got a friend in dire circumstances and if things get much worse, he’s just going to have to move into my basement – great guy, and he has taught me humility a million times over. Sometimes u have to look how things could be worse. He has a great partner and she is fine here too, although the dog I’m not quite so sure about! :D nice to see you people, and like family, we’ll all be holding hands on and off. I’ve got my faults I hope others have the time of day for ( I’m not impying any of you are so stricken :) ) Trish is my friend and so is Alfred; I don’t see things being any other way.

  143. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Oooops, did I italicize the blog? :( I obviously can’t post and watch hockey at the same time.

  144. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:25 pm
    *before we ever get to… etc.

    I’d be happy if Grandy hit lefties better, ditto Cano reverting to form (2012 outlier), and Gardner stayed reasonably healthy.

    ——————————
    they are all going to be VG this year…can’t wait

  145. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    YF

    The wave seems so anti-Yankee fan. It’s kind of embarrassing.

    Thanks Barry.

  146. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Phew, close one.

  147. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    Tar, I know. I cringe every time they wave. And do more than cringe when the people in front of me stand up during a critical moment even in a playoff game. SMH. The NYS crowd just isn’t the OYS crowd. :(

  148. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    NYI giving my B’s a tough time

  149. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Tex playing in the WBC might get him off to a fast start, unless it’s the cold weather of April that is his bugaboo.
    Cano will rake all year as it’s a walk year. As it is for Youk.
    Of course Jete is always the key as w/out him they will fall apart mentally.
    Gardner staying healthy is key as we will have to overplay someone out there again, god knows who as Ibanez/Jones is gone.
    If all goes like this we should win the East.

  150. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    Mills-

    All you are really interested in are fast cars, hockey, and desert succulents.

    Admit it !

    Oh, and cavities (the toothy kind).

    :)

  151. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    “they are all going to be VG this year…can’t wait”

    Joeman are you mocking (micking ? ) us!! :mad:

  152. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    micking? so judgmental…

  153. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    YF, I’ve got my stick up and a grudge for hockey at the moment. They don’t need me, they’ve got paying drones. Still can’t source that music lead on this analog bathroom radio BTW.

  154. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    We have a ton of games in cold weather towns in April with the exception of the 3 at the Rays. Hopefully, we don’t as a result get off to a slow start. Looks like only Mets, RS are considered premium games by the Yanks; Dodgers are not.

    Nice goal by Sid, his second, scores on a great backhander.

    Joeman, do you live in Boston?

  155. blake January 25th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    yankeefeminista says:
    January 25, 2013 at 8:05 pm
    blake, sad, isn’t it?

    Yup…tis

  156. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    “Micking”.

    Sounds kinda like an Irish thing.

    A good Whiskey perhaps ?

    :)

  157. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    To blame the Stadium for inducing the wave is ludicrous.
    Are you saying none of the fans who frequented OYS are coming to NYS.
    Priced out?
    I doubt it.

  158. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    “But yeah, there is definitely something missing once you get inside. It’s kind of soulless.”

    Haven’t been to the NYS.

    But without fail, every time I went to the Stadium and walked out saw the “diamond” I would get goose bumps. I would almost hold my breath in anticipation, what a great Stadium.

    Haven’t been to many but maybe 5 or 6 other MLB parks, and never felt that way.

  159. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Mick

    I originally put a J/K in there, but I erased it. But I really was J/k.

  160. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Joeman lives in CT.

  161. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    tar, no problem, I can take a joke…it might appear I am micking at times , just have micksed feelings…

  162. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    MTU, I had a great time in the snow getting home in the turbo WRX – pretended I was Gilles Villeneuve on a custom snowmobile ( he was great in F1 rain’cause of all that blind winter racing ).

    The house is happily crammed with succulents.

    I hated dentistry ( should’ve been Sylvia Plath from the start )

    Hockey is as hockey does…

  163. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Have a good evening.

    Catch you all when the Sun comes over the Horizon again.

  164. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    maybe you took the j/k out cuz you weren’t?

  165. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Why are they the Jets? Is Bombardier located there?

  166. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Mills-

    A Man’s gotta make a living.

    ;)

  167. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    Catch you all when the Sun comes over the Horizon again.
    ===============================
    The Son aint coming over this horizon again…

  168. UpState January 25th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    If we need to trade for a ‘post A-Rod” third baseman….
    any thoughts on acquiring any of these minor leaguers ???

    Rendon —– Nationals
    Davidson — D-Backs
    Gallo——— Rangers
    Cuthbert—- Royals
    Castellano– Detroit
    Gyorko——- San Diego

    …being ‘blocked’ at ML level ?
    …available ?
    …good targets ?

  169. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    mick-

    ;)

    :)

  170. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    “maybe you took the j/k out cuz you weren’t?”

    Nah… I was just testing your “mick meter’. See if you were paying attention.

  171. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    Jets used to fly over Shea in the good ol’ days.

  172. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    Haven’t been to the NYS.

    But without fail, every time I went to the Stadium and walked out saw the “diamond” I would get goose bumps. I would almost hold my breath in anticipation, what a great Stadium.

    ————

    If you squint and look around, it’s sort of like you’re in the old stadium. Beer also helps.

  173. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    mtu

    at a loss for words?

  174. blake January 25th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    “If we need to trade for a ‘post A-Rod” third baseman….
    any thoughts on acquiring any of these minor leaguers ???”

    To Varying degrees…all of them

  175. MTU January 25th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Mick-

    Nope. Gotcha. Liked the pun.

    Have a good evening.

  176. Jerkface January 25th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    But without fail, every time I went to the Stadium and walked out saw the “diamond” I would get goose bumps. I would almost hold my breath in anticipation, what a great Stadium.

    Old YS was cool when you walked out and saw the actual field, but everything else about the experience blew. Unless you have a particular fetish for walking around a bunch of cramped, drab, concrete hallways. NYS is great to walk around in, see the game, etc. My only objection is that I wish the bleachers didn’t have obstructed view and that the tiers were a little more compact so the upper levels were closer to the game.

  177. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Tar, I’d get goosebumps when I saw the green RF grass from the 4 train or when on field level underneath I’d pass the tunnel and see the infield grass from the first base side. Nothing like it.

  178. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    too much is made of the antisepticity of NYS.
    in fact, the word sterile, was my 1st impression as I stared off towards the LF bleachers at my 1st glance.
    if you love winning baseball and can still get lost in the game, you will make it just fine at NYS.

  179. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    There is no comparison in terms of the crowd vibe between NYS and OYS. None. Some great posts on NYYFan about the feeling of loss so many have experienced since we moved.

  180. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    Don’t worry, MTU, like a stick in the side, I’ve always held pragmatic leanings.

    Thanks for asking; now, go listen to Red Rider’s, ” Neruda, ” album, arguably the best Canuck rock thing made here ( sorry, Alex, Neil and Ged )

  181. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    “Jets used to fly over Shea in the good ol’ days.”

    They don’t do that anymore? I know back then on certain days (rainy, windy ?) they use to change the landing/take-off pattern. Every couple of minutes a freaking jet.

    Now Shea was a real dump. No goose bumps there, more like dry heaves. :D

  182. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    think I’ll hit the Mohegan Sun tomorrow sip a little Makers and relax and play Let It Ride

    BTW….I for one think that the NYY catcher situation is OK, like to see the kid grab the bull BTH and win the job out of ST

  183. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Red Rider also produced, ” White Hot ” – song about Rimbaud dontcha’ kno!

    Don’t neglect, ” Lunatic Fringe. “

  184. mick January 25th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    I liked the sight lines at Shea. Seemed close to the field.
    The jets were loud as hell for the few Mets games I went to..
    But the Jets changed their name from the Titans when they moved to Shea for obvious reasons.
    Since they moved a few feet over in the parking lot and I haven’t been there can’t say about the flight patterns now.

  185. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    There is no comparison in terms of the crowd vibe between NYS and OYS.
    =====================
    You can blame that on the people too.

  186. blake January 25th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    I get goosebumps whenever I see Stewie walk to the plate no matter which stadium he’s in

  187. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    can anyone recommend a good store bought fruit cup

  188. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    I get goosebumps whenever I see Stewie walk
    =============================
    I too enjoy Family Guy.

  189. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Doles is always good .

  190. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    89-52 Celts…knee jerk?

  191. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    “Old YS was cool when you walked out and saw the actual field, but everything else about the experience blew”

    Honestly, for me I really didn’t care about the rest. I had my routines for getting there and back.
    I would pretty much get in my seat, maybe get a beer, sometimes keep score ( hmm I think I forgot how ) and watch the game. But I’m talking about quite a few years ago.

  192. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Gilles Villeneuve beat a jet in a straight line and took the front wing off since there were no curves.

  193. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    “I get goosebumps whenever I see Stewie walk to the plate no matter which stadium he’s in”

    That’s probably hives. :D

  194. tomingeorgia January 25th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    In the OLD, old Yankee Stadium, they’d let you out through the box seat gates (yes, they really had those things) onto the field, and you could walk the warning track all the way to the center field exit. As a kid, I was in heaven.

  195. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    Doles is always good
    ———————–
    thanks..I bought some Del Monte fruit naturals in light syrup…not bad but I know there must be better

  196. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Joe, there’s a great one down the street at the Big Bear variety here in Hamilton if you have the time.

  197. yankeefeminista January 25th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    I walked all around the field before the last game at OYS. I have grass from the outfield, touched the ground where Bernie kneeled when we won the WS, and where my dad played and saw Joe D. play, took blue paint chips from the outfield walls, and took pics at each outfield distance sign. I sobbed like a baby after that game.

    I love watching games at NYS, but it will never be OYS. The Jeet 3000 hit game was the closest it came to feeling like OYS. The crowd was like one big beautiful wave of emotion. 2009 WS clincher I was out of my mind happy, but crowd-wise it could not compare. The Jorge love fests in September 2011 were right up there as well. But the emotion at the Jeet game was indescribable.

  198. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    Hi, Tom; none of you know how it feels to be at Exhibition stadium with Roy Lee Jackson on the mound.

  199. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    Once saw the Beach Boys play after a Yankee game. Think it was the 4th of July.

  200. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    When you go to a Broadway show and you’re allowed to move to an empty/better seat at intermission. The Yanks should do the same.

    It just kills me when they blame things like stubhub for the empty seats.

  201. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    YF- Your dad played at the Stadium?

  202. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    little light snow here, it’s kind of nice to look at…

  203. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    What we need at NYS is more memories like we had at OYS.

  204. Bronx Jeers January 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    “Old YS was cool when you walked out and saw the actual field, but everything else about the experience blew”

    ————————-

    I always used the loge level as my “express lane”

    Rain delays were a nightmare.

  205. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
    What we need at NYS is more memories like we had at OYS.

    ———————————
    give it time i’ll happen & it will start with this Yankee team

  206. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    I’ve always had a hard time with the Beach Boys; grew up with, ” the calm, cool calculus of reason ” – right, Jim Morrison? – navy admiral’s son

  207. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    The world has changed as have its inhabitants.
    Fans still cheer and get worked up at the Stadium.
    Many are just to in tune to their smart phones rather than the game.
    I doubt that is the fault of the building.

  208. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    “Once saw the Beach Boys play after a Yankee game. Think it was the 4th of July.”

    Saw the Stones at Shea, Living Colour (no Idea why I remember that) was the opener.

  209. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    give it time i’ll happen & it will start with this Yankee team
    =================================
    i thought we were 50-50 to make the playoffs?

  210. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Bruins are wearing down the NYI…little to big & tough for them

  211. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    That was a time when attendance was on the wane.
    Think they got about 35,000 that day.
    Beach Boys did about 3 songs, many didn’t even stay.

  212. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
    give it time i’ll happen & it will start with this Yankee team
    =================================
    i thought we were 50-50 to make the playoffs
    ———————————————————————–
    changed my tune..no more Mr Negative

  213. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Pittsburgh does a lot of concerts after games. In fact a lot more teams are doing that now.

  214. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    changed my tune..no more Mr Negative
    ====================
    for real?

  215. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    There are no big name bands anymore to draw people.

  216. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:28 pm
    changed my tune..no more Mr Negative
    ====================
    for real?

    ————————–
    trust

  217. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    For such a happy band, the Beach Boys certainly had their death to love side – imagine having Charlie Manson in your house!

  218. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    “There are no big name bands anymore to draw people.”

    There are plenty of big draw bands out there. You’re just old to know about them.

  219. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    I like, Natalie Imbruglia – she’s , awesome. Big band in my world.

  220. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Did not know this:

    * Yankee Stadium Prisms and Sidebars (A Very Partial List)

    By Harvey Frommer

    As the days draw closer to a precious few for Yankee Stadium, herewith some oddities, factoids and singular information on the big ballpark in the Bronx that has been with us since 1923.

    Ron Guidry was a good drummer and once kept a trap set at Yankee Stadium. He played in a post-game concert with the Beach Boys.

  221. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    The Coors are great too,…..and will get together soon!

  222. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    The only band you will see today after a game is one trying to make a name for itself.
    Too many bands today-one hit wonders-generic.

  223. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Mick, maybe, but I’m still enjoying a lot of new music. I like to think of myself this way circa avec Rush looking up to La Police and Talking Heads along with Ultravox.

  224. joeman January 25th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Safety isn’t a game, but play it safe….night all

  225. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Maybe the Mumfords, not like it was when rock was in its renaissance period.

  226. Tar January 25th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    I’m out too G’night all.

  227. mick January 25th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    later dude

  228. blake January 25th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Given that the Braves outfield is set for years now….I wonder if they’d trade Gattis given that he’s like 27 years old and has nowhere to play?

  229. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    I know Guidry to be 25 and 3, the drummer thing is a bit more tenuous.

  230. jmills January 25th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Blake, hi; here’s hoping u and yours are well.

  231. blake January 25th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    You too jmills

  232. blake January 25th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    Same to you jmills

  233. Ys Guy January 25th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    i think people are making too much of cashman’s comments about arod today. in both cases he was asked directly if there was a chance arod could miss the whole season. and he answered both by saying that it’s possible but he doesnt expect that to happen.

    people have turned that into cashman going on the air to announce that it’s possible arod could miss the whole year.

  234. blake January 25th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Gattis is a decent LFer and could catch some ( though he’s not real good there). RH power bat….he is old for a prospect and has nowhere to play on braves now….Yanks should check on him

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