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Pinch hitting: Vincent Capone

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Our next Pinch Hitter, Vincent Capone, wants to stress that, although he first became a Yankees fan in 1996 – he was 8 years old at the time – his allegiance was set before the team upset the Braves and won the World Series. Vincent’s father was a baseball coach, but Vincent wrote, “My mom was the first one to teach me to throw and hit. When I was 6, I started going to my dad’s high school games and practices. When I learned to keep the scorebook, Mom and I became Dad’s official scorekeepers and we were at every game together. Our greatest achievement was in 2001 when Dad and I got Mom to follow the Yankees as closely as we did.”

Vincent is currently a real estate agent and an aspiring novelist. He’s still a volunteer baseball coach and writes postgame reports for a local high school sports website. For his post, a guy who got used to the numbers of a scorebook wrote about the numbers on the players’ jerseys.

People seem to have an inherent love for underdogs. When I was eight years old growing up in Hamilton, New Jersey, my barely-developing baseball loyalties lay with the … wait for it … Atlanta Braves.

When I was young, my mother and I would take annual trips to visit my grandparents in Newnan, Ga. Driving past Atlanta Fulton County Stadium on the way there and watching Braves games on TV with my grandfather were enough for me to support the perpetually victorious Bravos, who were fresh off their 1995 World Series title.

There was just one problem. In 1996, I learned that there was an upstart baseball team that played its home games a mere 60 miles away from where I lived. Despite a postseason berth in 1995, this team had come out of nowhere and seemed to have no shot against mighty Atlanta in the ’96 World Series. Naturally, my 8-year-old sense of justice was aroused; I thought it was pretty unfair that nobody was giving these New York Yankees a shot. It was then I decided to root for the team with the teen idol shortstop, the soft-spoken “clueless” manager and the blowhard owner.

Ironically enough, that was probably the last time that the words “underdog” and “Yankees” were ever used in the same sentence. Despondent after the Yankees fell behind 6-0 in Game 4, I was trudging up the steps to bed, a heart-broken kid, when my father called after me, “Don’t worry, they’re going to win this one 8-6!” True story. The rest was history. From that point on, for the next 16 years, the Yankees were everything from champions, to winners, to big spenders, to an Evil Empire. My loyalties never wavered, but I’ve found myself leaning toward the little guys on the Yankee roster every year, individual microcosms of those ’96 dreamers, who had just enough heart, and naivete, to believe they could knock off the unbeatable Braves.

Every season, the Yankee roster turns over, but some names have been there through it all. Jeter’s #2, Posada’s #20, Pettitte’s #46, Rivera’s #42, and Williams’ #51 have become omnipresent in the Yankee Universe. Still, I was always intrigued by those “forgotten numbers” – the 11s, 17s, 19s, 22s, 33s – little guys that had just as much influence in the latest Yankee dynasty; the good, the bad, and the strange.

11 - Buck Showalter wore it as the Yankees climbed out of obscurity and into the playoffs in 1995. Former Met Dwight Gooden brandished it as he was carried off the field in 1996 after throwing a no-hitter. From 1998-2001, Chuck Knoblauch set the table atop the lineup for four pennants and three titles. Gary Sheffield ripped holes in the very atmosphere for three seasons with his vicious swing. If you could tell me that Mitch Seone acted as first-base coach for one game in 2008 wearing #11, shortly before Brett Gardner would return from Triple-A to seize it for good, congrats.

17 – Without Kenny Rogers dropping the Yankees into a 6-0 hole in Game 4 of the ’96 World Series, Jim Leyritz may have been a footnote in Yankees history. John Flaherty hit one of the most famous doubles in Yankee-Red Sox lore in 2004 to win the “Derek Jeter Catch” game. In 2007, Shelley Duncan brought “Bash Brothers” mania to the Bronx.

19 – No. 19 was part of one of the biggest hits in recent Yankee history. Three words – Wakefield, Boone, Knuckleball. It was the number of dynasty role player Luis Sojo from 1996-2001, though when he got the game-winning dribbler base hit in Game 5 of the 2000 World Series, he was wearing #14. Al Leiter took #19 when he came home to the Yankees in 2005.

22 – Jimmy Key set the stage in Game 6 of 1996 with 5.1 innings of 1-run ball. It was the last of 4 numbers Jorge Posada wore before he finally took #20 for more than a decade. Homer Bush apparently wore it in the storybook season of 1998. I don’t know for sure – he was always running too fast. Roger Clemens wore it for the entirety of his Yankee career. Robinson Cano wore it in 2005 before settling on #24.

33 – Charlie Hayes caught the final out of the 1996 World Series. Javier Vazquez had an all-star season with #33 in 2004…that is until Game 7… uh, Johnny Damon…never mind. But who could forget two of the most colorful, eclectic, and outlandish Yankees ever to wear #33? Had David Wells and Nick Swisher ever shared the same Yankee clubhouse, Queen Elizabeth would have felt quite comfortable in the company of the 1970’s Bronx Zoo.

In two months we’ll see the next Yankee class of ever-brief but ever-memorable “forgotten numbers.”

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137 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Vincent Capone”

  1. abronson86 January 27th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Clemens actually wore #12 when he first came over in ’99. :D

  2. austinmac January 27th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    I would like to see a post in which someone discusses the best way to deal with 2014. 189 is the key number these days.

  3. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    austinmac says:
    January 27, 2013 at 9:22 am
    I would like to see a post in which someone discusses the best way to deal with 2014. 189 is the key number these days.

    Pray Cano takes a discount, pray Arod gets healthy, pray Tex stops decling, pray Pineda comes back, and pray that about 3 or 4 prospects burst on the scene

  4. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    austinmac -

    I’m not sure that there’s anyone (including the Yankee front office) who have a great plan about how to deal with 2014.

  5. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Clemens, the man who threw his wife under the bus. ” I had nothing to do with them drugs, officer, it was her, she natuarally wanted to get bigger for that photo shoot. ”

    Nice one, Roger, throw Maddux a kiss next year.

  6. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    I hope that the Yanks rethink their payroll strategy if things don’t play out to allow it…,but we don’t know that they will.

  7. Rich in NJ January 27th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I don’t know that I would view the 1996 Yankees as an upstart. They had made the playoffs in 1995, and had the second best record in MLB in 1994 when Selig and the owners forced that despicable lockout which prevented a postseason (yeah, they care about the game).

    I think it’s fair, however, to use it as a proxy for a team with developing star players who haven’t yet reached their ceiling. That’s what the Yankees had in 1996 and, from my perspective, it made them far more fun to watch.

    That has been pretty rare on the Yankees for a long time, except for role players.

    It’s a large reason why the team has the outsized expectations that was discussed a couple of days ago. It’s a consequence of having mostly old, declining players, and an owner who defines success as winning the WS every single year.

  8. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Sign Bourne to a one year deal and trade Granderson to Seattle for Nick Franklin

  9. austinmac January 27th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    How can a huge entity have no plan going forward? Remarkable. It didn’t have to get here. The reality is they have known Hal was going to do massive cuts. Yet, no change in their practices. No ability to adapt.

  10. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    I hope their plan is this: try to tread water until they see what the prospects do an until the situation with Cano is resolved …..then if they can compete and get under the cap do it…..but if not then spend to field a competitor. I hope that’s the plan….unfortunately we just have to wait and see.

    I don’t blame the Yankees for trying to position themselves to get under the cap….what will be upsetting is if they see that the team is floundering and they still do it anyway

  11. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:33 am
    Sign Bourne to a one year deal and trade Granderson to Seattle for Nick Franklin

    ———————————
    like the idea of Bourne to a 1 year ….

  12. austinmac January 27th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    I would have been and still would be all in a plan to trade our soon to be departing free agents to get younger. Don’t use the word re-building, if it is an anathema. Tell the fans they are re-energizing with youth like the mid-90s.

    Young players are exciting to watch. Unfortunately, we don’t have much for a couple years, and that is if things go well.

  13. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Blake,

    Counter:

    Alex’s hip condition forces him to retire
    Yankees don’t give Cano a stupid contract
    Jeter picks up his option and leaves it at that
    Pineda returns
    David Adams plays well enough to secure 3b
    Manny Banuelos returns well from injury
    Slade Heathcott and/or Tyler Austin move up

  14. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Blake -

    Bourne’s not taking a 1 year deal.

    Austinmac -

    Because I truly believe there’s a disconnect in the Yankee organization about how to move forward.

  15. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Dear Vincent Capone;

    Jimmy Key was one of my chosen ones and if I could have shaken Pat Gillick, Dave Stewart never would have been here and u would have had to find someone else for ’96. Endearing post by the way, thanks;

    Jmills

  16. Rich in NJ January 27th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    “How can a huge entity have no plan going forward?”

    I think any plan they had has failed because: 1) Tex and A-Rod declined far more rapidly than they had ever thought possible (and they counted on Tex to offset any decline by A-Rod); 2) AJ never became the #2 that Cashman probably told them he would be; 3) the Pineda and AJack deals have blown up in their face at this point; 4) the farm system hasn’t produced like the GM probably promised them it would when he gained more power 7 years ago.

  17. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I can see a scenario where the Yanks field a sub 189 payroll and are a good team…..it’s just that a few things have to happen that are somewhat unlikely

    #1 Pineda has to com back and be what they traded for him to be.
    #2. They probably have to bite the bullet and either keep Cano or spread his money around to equal value (sign 2 good players for his 20-25 million)
    # 3 Arod has to get healthy and give them something for his money
    # 4 Tex has to stop decling
    # 5 they have to have prospects hit….they will need production from at least one of their outfield prospects in 2014 and they’ll need some of Nova, Phelps, Marshall, Banuelos and maybe even Depaula to perform and take up some rotation spot cheap.

    If most of these things happen the Yanks can do it…..how likely is that? I guess we will find out

  18. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    “Bourne’s not taking a 1 year deal.”

    Stranger things have happened….we shall see. Boras may yet get the rangers or somebody to bite and give him what he wants….but we’ve seen boras punt before and try the next year if it doesn’t happen….it’s almost February….it’s possible

  19. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    IMO the most important players for the Yankees this year are David Adams and Corban Joseph.

    Adams:
    If he plays well and forces the Yankees to take him seriously as a candidate at 3b and earns himself a midseason call up then at the end of the year Cashman can turn to Alex and tell him, “look, going forward you’re going to be strictly the DH against LHP. You’re going to ride the bench. It will be humiliating for you. Or you can retire.” and see what he does.

    Joseph:
    He’s not as good as Cano, probably won’t be as good as Cano, but if he plays well then the Yankees won’t feel trapped by Cano. If he doesn’t, then they’ll have no choice but to give Robbie a contract that will hamstring the organization.

  20. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Chip,
    That’s the alternate reality….if those things happen and they could….then there is no way they can compete under the cap….and we will see if Hal was being truthful when he said he’d only do it if they could do it and win

  21. austinmac January 27th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    If the Yankees signed Bourne to a one year contract and traded Granderson for a young player, I would be thrilled as it would show some foresight for the future. Hence, it is not happening.

  22. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    “IMO the most important players for the Yankees this year are David Adams and Corban Joseph.”

    Neither will probably even play in the big leagues….the most important players are Tex, CC, and Cano

  23. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    If the Yanks could sign Bourne to a one year deal then I might even prefer trading Gardner….because you might could get more for him and because Bourn and Gardner are somewhat redundant.

    Granderson gives them some power and drives in runs…..

  24. Rich in NJ January 27th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    I think they’d be trading low on Gardner given the doubts about his ability to stay healthy.

  25. blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Rich in NJ says:
    January 27, 2013 at 9:52 am
    I think they’d be trading low on Gardner given the doubts about his ability to stay healthy.

    If I could get more for Granderson then Id do that ….but IMO there are probably teams that woukd value Gardy more because he’s controlled a year longer …because he’s an elite defender …and because he can lead off….plus an outfield of Gardner, Bourn, Ichiro would hit like 12 homers combined

  26. Rich in NJ January 27th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    blake

    I think they have to play Gardner in CF to start the season, hope he starts strong, then look to sell high.

  27. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    I think Gardner will play CF this year…. That’s a move that’s time has come IMO

  28. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    If the mets want Bourn but can’t figure out the draft thing and don’t want to lose their pick then sign Bourne and trade them Gardner for wilmer Flores

  29. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:50 am
    If the Yanks could sign Bourne to a one year deal then I might even prefer trading Gardner….because you might could get more for him and because Bourn and Gardner are somewhat redundant.

    Granderson gives them some power and drives in runs…..

    ——————————-
    just when I started liking the guy as a player now you want to trade him

  30. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Rich,

    The incentive to get under $189 didn’t come up until a couple of years ago so I don’t think either AJ or the Jackson deal factored. And as much as I want to see Granderson traded, I don’t think you can consider a deal that netted the team a 35+ HR center fielder as having “blown up” on them.

    The biggest obstacle with getting under $189 is the money tied up in the current long term deals to Tex, CC and especially Alex due to the extremely diminished returns the Yankees are getting on their A-Rod money.

  31. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I did bring up this idea over a month ago about signing Bourne and trading Gardner..at that time was told not to mention who that why would the NYY do that …Gardner is a better player and is a whole lot cheaper….I’m confused

  32. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    If the mets want Bourn but can’t figure out the draft thing and don’t want to lose their pick then sign Bourne and trade them Gardner for wilmer Flores
    —————

    If the Mets don’t want to give up a draft pick for Mike Bourn then they’re certainly not going to want to give up one of their best prospects for a poor man’s version of Bourn.

  33. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    “just when I started liking the guy as a player now you want to trade him”

    I don’t want to trade him….I just would under the right circumstances

  34. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    “If the Mets don’t want to give up a draft pick for Mike Bourn then they’re certainly not going to want to give up one of their best prospects for a poor man’s version of Bourn.”

    Gardner costs a lot less and wouldn’t be a rental player….it’s not apples to apples. Plus Flores is blocked

  35. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    If I’m a GM I do not touch Gardner with a flag pole until he proves he can stay healthy through the All-Star break.

  36. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    it is possible that the NYY can’t trade CG with his pending situation

  37. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    And an OF of Gardner, Bourne, Ichiro is not happening.

    So Bourne is not happening but we will discuss him for 3-4 more pages of comments.

    Hurry up Mets.

  38. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    When will fans accept that what we have right now is exactly what we’ll have Opening Day?

  39. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Sign Bourn and then trade Granderson to San Francisco for Brandon Belt, Andrew Susak and Connor Gillaspie

  40. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Mets have Wright and Davis long term at the corners in the infield and the reports I’ve read on Wilmer suggests he probably doesn’t run well enough to be a good outfielder….

  41. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:20 am
    Sign Bourn and then trade Granderson to San Francisco for Brandon Belt, Andrew Susak and Connor Gillaspie

    ——————————————–
    if you were SF would you do that trade

  42. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    blake January 27th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    “IMO the most important players for the Yankees this year are David Adams and Corban Joseph.”

    Neither will probably even play in the big leagues….the most important players are Tex, CC, and Cano
    ————–

    For 2013 you’re probably right – but I’m talking about the long term future.

  43. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Once again, Gardner, Bourne, Ichiro is not happening.

    The Yankees view Granderson as a key hitter who can help win a ring. He’s not going somewhere for a collection of prospects.

    He’s Curtis Granderson in 2013 and a draft pick.

  44. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:20 am
    When will fans accept that what we have right now is exactly what we’ll have Opening Day?

    I’ve accepted it but that’s no fun to talk about.

    Chip,
    I like Belt but he doesn’t have anywhere to play with the Yanks and he gets best by good fastballs a lot

  45. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Joeman

    Yup. I just won the WS last year and an OF of Granderson, Pagan, Pence helps get me back there.

    My manager isn’t a huge fan of Belt, Susac is blocked by Posey and Gillaspie is blocked by Kung Fu Panda

  46. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    joeman says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:18 am
    it is possible that the NYY can’t trade CG with his pending situation

    Teams will trade for rentals if they like them….

  47. Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Blake -

    Belt can be my DH.

  48. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Chip January 27th, 2013 at 10:23 am
    Joeman

    Yup. I just won the WS last year and an OF of Granderson, Pagan, Pence helps get me back there.

    My manager isn’t a huge fan of Belt, Susac is blocked by Posey and Gillaspie is blocked by Kung Fu Panda

    ———————————–
    and then do you resign him or let him walk

  49. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Like Swisher and Soriano before them, Granderson and Hughes are merely draft picks. That’s the pattern. It’s not going to change.

  50. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:24 am
    joeman says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:18 am
    it is possible that the NYY can’t trade CG with his pending situation

    Teams will trade for rentals if they like them….
    ————————————-
    what do you give up for rentals…….just asking

  51. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    The Yankees have to restock through the draft because they might have to deal away prospects in the offseason to field a more competitive team in 2014.

  52. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    “what do you give up for rentals…….just asking”

    Depends…Kevin Towers just have up Justin Upton for one….Seattle gave up Jaso for one….depends on how bad the team wants the player.

  53. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    “Belt can be my DH.”

    Meh…Im not sold on him

  54. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    So what we should be talking about is which prospects Cashman will trade after the season and for who, assuming Granderson and Hughes walk for draft picks.

  55. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:29 am
    So what we should be talking about is which prospects Cashman will trade after the season and for who, assuming Granderson and Hughes walk for draft picks.

    Trading the prospects might not be the best idea if they want to get under the cap unless they are getting Giancarlo

  56. Benny Blanco January 27th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    wow, is it really 16 days until spring training?? damn!

  57. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Giancarlo isn’t the only cost-controlled target out there.

  58. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    I have a feeling that Giancarlo is the new Felix Hernandez for the Yanks….the guy they are willing to trade everybody for but can never really get…

  59. jacksquat January 27th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    They need to keep Gardner, they will probably need him for 2014. Granderson probably won’t be resigned, Ichiro can’t be expected to play CF full time, and Heathcott/Williams may not be ready. Plus, you need a top of order hitter if Ichiro is not hitting.

  60. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    FiretheUMPIRE says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:31 am
    Giancarlo isn’t the only cost-controlled target out there.

    Who else will be available that’s like him

  61. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    The hope is that either Heathcott or Williams will be pretty close by 2014….if Heathcott hits in AA this year he’s pretty much ready….they need to get some value out of him soon before he Grady Sizemores

  62. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    A cost controlled target? Take a look out there, see if you can beat the writers to the speculation one year in advance.

    My point is, next offseason is the one worth talking about if you’re contemplating player movement. This one is over.

  63. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Take a good look at what has happened in the offseason. Cashman punted – same thing he did at the trade deadline. Master procrastinator.

  64. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    “A cost controlled target? Take a look out there, see if you can beat the writers to the speculation one year in advance.”

    Good cost controlled players don’t get traded unless its a unique situation

  65. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: Sandy Alderson gave us the impression that they are “in” on Bourn & reluctant to give up pick but considering because of strength of farm sy

  66. FiretheUMPIRE January 27th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Well I guess the writers are gonna have to find those unique situations to blog about.

  67. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    @Jim_Duquette: Alderson told us – they still are hoping to acquire someone by trade, but realistically there’s not much left on the shelf.”

  68. yankee21 January 27th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: Sandy Alderson gave us the impression that they are “in” on Bourn & reluctant to give up pick but considering because of strength of farm sy…..

    IMO the NYM are about 3-4 players shy of fielding a competititve team in that division. It really will be a case of WAS, ATL and then everybody else with FL and the Mets fighting to stay of the seller. Getting Bourne makes little sense unless he will be used as a trade chip mid-season.

    All that said, I believe the Mets are a better run organization with a clearer plan than the Yankees have right now and they are not that far away from starting to take away some NYY fans if enough NYY fans sense Hal is only in it for the $$$.

  69. ericns1 January 27th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Tell Accountant Hal to sell the team to someone who cares about winning with the overpriced tickets and food.

  70. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Felix Hernandez reportedly seeking a six-year extension from Mariners ……………

    whats this kid 26 years old, seems like he ben around for 10 years

  71. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    ericns1 January 27th, 2013 at 10:53 am
    Tell Accountant Hal to sell the team
    ———————————————-
    this could happen

  72. blake January 27th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    @JimBowdenESPNxm: Alderson’s response to our Bourn question made it clear despite reluctance they are considering giving up #11 draft pick to sign him….hmmm

  73. NYYanksFan January 27th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    “they are not that far away from starting to take away some NYY fans if enough NYY fans sense Hal is only in it for the $$$.”

    The herd could use some thinning anyhow if people are that quick to give up the pinstripes.

  74. blake January 27th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Sandy is a smart GM….he’s got them pointed in the right direction

  75. RMS January 27th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Re: Bourn
    No power. Yankees need some power on the team.
    Not signing for 1 year. He can get 2 from another team.

    I think Cashman is done dealing unless it is for someone cheap. What they have now is it.

  76. DONNYBROOK January 27th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    So we gotta guy that’s attracted to the “numbers” racket with the last name of Capone? Where’s the Story here?

  77. blake January 27th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    I would guess Cashman and Theo/Hoyer are discussing Soriano….they’d like to move him and he just makes too much sense.

    He’s similar to morse in that he can hits lefties and righties well enough to be a primary DH and he’s actually a better defender and base runner than Morse

  78. blake January 27th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Soriano isn’t perfect but at this point he may be by far the best of the realistic options….he’d help them…he was a 4 win player in 2012

  79. G. Love January 27th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Hearing from the GM’s mouth that they have until the trade deadline to find a DH, RH hitting OF and whatever this “team” lacks is almost laughable. They keep moving the die farther and farther to the right.

    I actually am in the camp that I think they have a plan. It’s to cross your fingers and hope the fans show up and the bow doesn’t break without having to do anything costly.

    The reason why a lot of us are upset about the plan is we feel something different, something insidious going on. They don’t have to come out and admit they’re prepping for a sale or they have now decided to put profit margins over winning and fielding a complete team.

    But this dance going on with the front office proclaiming they’ve done a bang up job this offseason and that there were no players available who were worth paying/trading for is a lot of nonsense.

    The thing about the teams that the pinch hitter fell in love with as a kid wasn’t just that we had young players. We had tons of grizzled vets looking for rings and redemption. We also had 2 Michael Jordan’s in Jeter & Mo. You know how many people had Bulls 23 jersey’s back in the day who probably couldn’t tell you the Bulls starting 5 right now? These are iconic once in a lifetime guys and they drew millions of fans to a team who years before were trying to sell us Henry Cotto and Hensley Bam Bam Meulens.

    If the Yankees go all young/cheap with marginal prospects just to fill holes, it’ll be 1991 again before you know it.

    There always needs to be a mixture of homegrown, vets and stars. There needs to be a bench where youth may push out a grizzled vet just looking to be a Yankee to see what the post season looks like here.

    All of that feels a little lost right now. There’s no bench. There’s no Chilli Davis/Straw/Raines. There’s no platoon guy who the fans would clamor should start over the incumbent. There’s not even a DH or anything resembling one unless you call Jeter that.

    The games will start soon and fans will show up for opening day. Maybe all the old guys won’t get hurt, tired, run-down and have throwback seasons. It would’ve been nice for the team to care enough to provide depth and acquisitions to mitigate that high risk.

    And right now, if I’m a LH starter, I can’t wait to get to the Bronx. We’ve given our opponents a competitive advantage through poor roster construction.

  80. MTU January 27th, 2013 at 11:18 am

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    There just doesn’t seem to be much going on.

    And I don’t think it’s stealth. It’s dollar driven.

    Sorry if that is boring but it is what is.

    Whatever they do at this point will have little impact IMO.

    Just like cheap pie filler. Empty calories.

    Want to get rich ?

    Invent a Geritol substitute to sell to the Yankees.

  81. MTU January 27th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Have a good day.

    Play nice.

  82. blake January 27th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “And right now, if I’m a LH starter, I can’t wait to get to the Bronx. We’ve given our opponents a competitive advantage through poor roster construction.”

    It’s a real problem with as many quality lefies as the AL east has

  83. Shame Spencer January 27th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    I’m gonna go ahead and do something I normally shy away from… give myself a pat on the back!! (This is outside the periphery of self-awarded awards, btw.)

    I knew they were gonna wait until the deadline.. I just had that feeling they were going to stand pat and see what they have by mid season. Pretty surprised Cash went from ‘there are no games tomorrow’ to ‘we have until the trade deadline’ but at least it’s more honest.

    What will be interesting is if any of our somewhat valuable pieces tanks in value. We’ll hope for the opposite, of course… but that will only make it harder to part with whoever they might trade.

  84. Shame Spencer January 27th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Still can’t believe this was the same team trying to acquire King Felix (and his contract) last off season.

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    Would have been better if he were an IRS agent.

  86. blake January 27th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    January 27, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Still can’t believe this was the same team trying to acquire King Felix (and his contract) last off season.

    And settled for Pineda….

  87. austinmac January 27th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    We thought the Yankees would go all in this year for the soon to be departing core. Nope, players cost too much. Absent trying to win this year, and they do not have the team to win, in my opinion. I wish they would do something for the long term.

    They have done nothing for the future except eliminate players and payroll. I would like to see one action, any action, that showed they have some idea about how to move forward and dield a team. I can take an off year. I don’t want five years of second division. Been there, done that.

    The plan seems to be accumulate draft picks in the supplemental round and hope in five years they can contribute.

  88. yankee21 January 27th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Once enough fans begin to understand how much money Hal is raking in and at the same time refusing to invest or improve the team then enough of these fans will look elsewhere to spend their hard-earned dollars. It may include going over to Citifield or it just may mean they go to the beach and not tune in. What will be worse is enough of these fans will stop caring and stop talking to their kids about Jeter, Mo and Yankee icons of the past. Fans will just stop caring.

    By the way improving the team does not only mean buying FA or IFA. It can also mean making changes at the top including replacing this imposter of a GM who has done nothing but kill off this franchise once he assumed full control.

    NYY may be passionate and spoiled but they are not stupid. They will give Hal and Cashman the middle finger and move on to something else during the summer.

    There is no informed fan who wants to shell out a couple hundred bucks to take his family to a game, buy some hot dogs and pay for parking who wants to sit through Chris Stewart starting at catcher and Jayson Nix starting at SS- that is a slap in the face and not bang for the buck.

  89. austinmac January 27th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I do firmly believe this is our team. It doesn’t stop me from wishing and hoping, but reality says they are and will remain in a mysterious limbo.

    I have never said anything about Cashman’s personal life, but from at least last year on, he has been an arrogant, defensive guy. I do wonder how the divorce, lawsuit, embarrassment and the like are impacting him.

  90. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Austin, I don’t know how Cashman lives in his head; I’m glad I’m anonymous with a pedestrian personal existence.

  91. Shame Spencer January 27th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    blake January 27th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Shame Spencer says:
    January 27, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Still can’t believe this was the same team trying to acquire King Felix (and his contract) last off season.

    And settled for Pineda….

    ——————-

    At least Pineda’s cost is in line with the goals. How the hell were we ever going to pay for Felix..?

  92. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Yankee21 etc., beware, don’t let your team become the Maple laughing Leafs.

  93. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Shame, I’m going to have to get Felix in July when the wheels start falling off.

  94. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax January 27th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    smh – trading Granderson for defacto signing of Bourn – you trade Gardner if you think you are going for Bourn – Bourn does not replace Granderson’s bat – if you think you can get better return for Gardner than what is available with the 1st round pick – but you lose the draft pick – my goodness -

    $man is a good GM – and he is showing patience – it is a work in progress going into the season and deadline – thank goodness the lohud posters are not running the Yankees – I would be watching an OF of Bourn, Gardner, and Suzuki w/ Nick Franklin (who some are not sold on as being a SS) – - – - i do like Brandon Belt – and so do a lot of professional writers and scouts it appears – - – -

  95. yankee21 January 27th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    I have never said anything about Cashman’s personal life, but from at least last year on, he has been an arrogant, defensive guy. I do wonder how the divorce, lawsuit, embarrassment and the like are impacting him….

    Personal life is off-limits for discussion for me. What is fair game to discuss is performance.

    I don’t see how Cashman can support his case to remain at GM based on his track record.

    And if Cashman says his hands are tied by ownership to make any moves why doesn’t he just resign?

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    Stone, you’re an optimist! :D

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  99. CompassRosy January 27th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    “At least Pineda’s cost is in line with the goals. How the hell were we ever going to pay for Felix..?”
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  100. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax January 27th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

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    hey jmills – how’s it going – hope all is well with you – just stopping by – be back when the season begins – a Yankees fan can only take so much of all the hand wringing about excel spreadsheets, Melky, Montero, complaining about only winning the AL East and advancing to the ALCS, and players on other teams – - – -

    i will leave on this note – ESPN showed some great love for your Jays pen in the 90s – as they should and your ’93 team was one of the top 10 ever:

    10. 1993 Toronto Blue Jays

    They were the first team in almost two decades to win back-to-back titles, thriving because of their deep and well-constructed roster. They had developed players like John Olerud (who had an OPS+ of 186), Pat Hentgen and Juan Guzman, traded for Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter in a blockbuster that took only hours to complete, and became masters of the midseason deal — and in 1993, that meant adding Rickey Henderson.

    The Blue Jays filled out their team with older, established stars such as Paul Molitor, who hit .332 that season; Olerud, Molitor and Alomar finished 1-2-3 in the batting race. It was a different time in Toronto: This team, coming off a championship season in 1992 and playing in SkyDome, drew more than 4 million fans. What a show it was.

  101. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Damn it, one of my cacti just fell over and damaged my Audrey Hepburn print. Wow, Stone, u kno your BJ birdy hx! Compass needs to feel the love tho, and as soon as she gets Willie Horton, I’m sure everything will be fine.

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  107. bardos January 27th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    Question: Given all the noise about the Yankees upcoming draft picks and possibilities this year, what positions are they after? There were a few years of pitchers and catchers. (Something which looks like a fail atm.) Now the Yanks look good in the future outfield a few years away. What are the priorities now?

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  113. blake January 27th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    “Question: Given all the noise about the Yankees upcoming draft picks and possibilities this year, what positions are they after? There were a few years of pitchers and catchers. (Something which looks like a fail atm.) Now the Yanks look good in the future outfield a few years away. What are the priorities now?”

    General you just draft the best available in the MLB draft….especially in the first rd but if I were gonna target anything it’d be left side infielders and pitching

  114. G. Love January 27th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    blake,

    I think the whole, “we’re gonna load up on P’s & C’s” hasn’t exactly panned out so I agree that they should get back to drafting the best available talent and not let signability even factor into their choices.

    If that Castellanos guy in Detroit pans out and becomes a productive major leaguer that’s going to be a tough one to live down since left side of the IF was a glaring issue with the age of the guys we have.

  115. Shame Spencer January 27th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Drafting Ps and Cs knowing they’re premium positions and other teams are always looking for them makes sense.. but they’ve shown very little aptitude for getting top value from their prospects. I think they need to focus on getting the best 3B/SS talent they can.

    Buy the Cuban and find the best 3B/SS talent in the draft!! Pad your chances…

  116. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

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  117. Don January 27th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    The Yankees are going to look like the Mets: money issues preventing the acquisition of new players, and a bad team on the field. If last summer’s post-all-star-break swoon is any indication, then it will not be enjoyable to watch. However, I hope I am wrong and the pitching holds the team aloft and that the veterans can still deliver.

  118. MickTheLight January 27th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Reading the writing on the wall, I feel there is a bigger plan than what you propose:

    Some facts:

    - In recent years, the Steinbrenner Brothers have hinted they might prefer just breeding horses rather than over-seeing the headaches that come with owning the New York Yankees.

    - Last year, shortly after the Los Angeles Dodgers changed ownership and sold for $2.15 Billion, it was rumored the Steinbrenner Brothers might be putting the New York Yankees up on the selling block at an estimated value of $3.5-4 Billion. Perhaps they were putting out feelers of appraisal, but why?

    - Just recently, the Yankees sold off a large chunk of the YES network to FOX, with the option of FOX having controlling shares within a few years.

    - With the exception of Ichiro, there have been few mult-year contract offers and efforts to secure multi-year contracts for blue chip players like Upton.

    The financial decks are being cleared fans… But again, for what purpose?

    Take a deep breath & read on…

    - Over the past several years, Derek Jeter has made no secret of the fact that he would one day like to be principal owner of a baseball team.

    - Derek Jeter’s contract is up at the end of 2013 for renegotiation.
    In order for Derek Jeter to stay in baseball for another few years and have a shot at Pete Rose’s all-time hits record, he would need to have some kind of flexibility in the playing schedule like Rose did in his final years as player/manager when he was staying in baseball mainly to pass Ty Cobb at 4,189 all-time hits.

    What if Derek pulled a Michael Jordan?

    MY PREDICTION for 2013-early 2014: Sometime during the salary renegotiation period for Derek Jeter, he will emerge with a buying group (hey, what group of millionaire/billionaire folks would not want to form a club around Capt. Clutch?) and step forward as the principle owner of the New York Yankees and buy out the Steinbrenner Brothers so he can fulfill his dream & the Bro Steins can walk away from the instability of Yankee ownership to focus on stabilizing their stables of horses.

    When the dust settles…

    Derek Jeter will own the New York Yankees.

    Captain Jeter will become Boss Jeter (to his ‘mates: Boss Jeets) and will then have the flexibility he needs to stay in baseball & own a team (really folks, what other team would he want to own other than the Yanks??).

    Sidenote: Lifetime Monster Yankees Fan Billy Crystal became a partial owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks shortly before the Yanks lost by a whisker to AZ in the ‘Bloop in the Desert’ Game 7 of the 2001 World Series. This was the same year Crystal released the labor of Yankees love tribute to his childhood hero & ol’ pal Mickey Mantle and all of baseball, 61*. How fun could that have been for Billy??? Since then, many say Billy has lost a few steps in hosting the Oscars. Take a lesson there, Derek.

    To finish off the changing of the guard:

    Jeet’s ol’ pal Jorge will come back to manage the Yanks.

    Joe Girardi will be relegated to bullpen catcher to satisfy his constant urge to tinker with the ‘pen.

    Bernie Williams will put his guitar on the shelf to become General Manager — or if he wants to remain in the musical limelight, Boss Jeets’ ol’ baseball buddy Gerald Williams will take the position.

    Jeets will remember the previous contract negotiation saga and Brian Cashman will be sent down to be in charge of staffing the team of Valets at the Yank’s Ruppert Plaza Garage.

    With a nearly broken down ‘roids-collapsed, two hip surgeries body, A-Rod’s Albatross contract will become an insurance return/tax write-off & if Al wants to remain in the Yanks Organization, he will become the head Valet at aforementioned Garage. Otherwise, he has the bank to leave the organization and make his ‘blond bimboes on parade’ hobby a full time gig.

    When all of the pieces are in place, Derek will be able to pass Pete Rose at 4,256 and bring dignity and respect to the all-time hits record.

    You heard it here first folks. Spread this around & tell your friends & neighbors because at least most of these predictions will come to pass (not so sure about the last four, but I remain hopeful).

    [url=http://mickhorigan.com]Mick Horigan[/url]

  119. MickTheLight January 27th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Reading the writing on the wall, I feel there is a bigger plan than what you propose:

    Some facts:

    - In recent years, the Steinbrenner Brothers have hinted they might prefer just breeding horses rather than over-seeing the headaches that come with owning the New York Yankees.

    - Last year, shortly after the Los Angeles Dodgers changed ownership and sold for $2.15 Billion, it was rumored the Steinbrenner Brothers might be putting the New York Yankees up on the selling block at an estimated value of $3.5-4 Billion. Perhaps they were putting out feelers of appraisal, but why?

    - Just recently, the Yankees sold off a large chunk of the YES network to FOX, with the option of FOX having controlling shares within a few years.

    - With the exception of Ichiro, there have been few mult-year contract offers and efforts to secure multi-year contracts for blue chip players like Upton.

    The financial decks are being cleared fans… But again, for what purpose?

    Take a deep breath & read on…

    - Over the past several years, Derek Jeter has made no secret of the fact that he would one day like to be principal owner of a baseball team.

    - Derek Jeter’s contract is up at the end of 2013 for renegotiation.
    In order for Derek Jeter to stay in baseball for another few years and have a shot at Pete Rose’s all-time hits record, he would need to have some kind of flexibility in the playing schedule like Rose did in his final years as player/manager when he was staying in baseball mainly to pass Ty Cobb at 4,189 all-time hits.

    What if Derek pulled a Michael Jordan?

    MY PREDICTION for 2013-early 2014: Sometime during the salary renegotiation period for Derek Jeter, he will emerge with a buying group (hey, what group of millionaire/billionaire folks would not want to form a club around Capt. Clutch?) and step forward as the principle owner of the New York Yankees and buy out the Steinbrenner Brothers so he can fulfill his dream & the Bro Steins can walk away from the instability of Yankee ownership to focus on stabilizing their stables of horses.

    When the dust settles…

    Derek Jeter will own the New York Yankees.

    Captain Jeter will become Boss Jeter (to his ‘mates: Boss Jeets) and will then have the flexibility he needs to stay in baseball & own a team (really folks, what other team would he want to own other than the Yanks??).

    Sidenote: Lifetime Monster Yankees Fan Billy Crystal became a partial owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks shortly before the Yanks lost by a whisker to AZ in the ‘Bloop in the Desert’ Game 7 of the 2001 World Series. This was the same year Crystal released the labor of Yankees love tribute to his childhood hero & ol’ pal Mickey Mantle and all of baseball, 61*. How fun could that have been for Billy??? Since then, many say Billy has lost a few steps in hosting the Oscars. Take a lesson there, Derek.

    To finish off the changing of the guard:

    Jeet’s ol’ pal Jorge will come back to manage the Yanks.

    Joe Girardi will be relegated to bullpen catcher to satisfy his constant urge to tinker with the ‘pen.

    Bernie Williams will put his guitar on the shelf to become General Manager — or if he wants to remain in the musical limelight, Boss Jeets’ ol’ baseball buddy Gerald Williams will take the position.

    Jeets will remember the previous contract negotiation saga and Brian Cashman will be sent down to be in charge of staffing the team of Valets at the Yank’s Ruppert Plaza Garage.

    With a nearly broken down ‘roids-collapsed, two hip surgeries body, A-Rod’s Albatross contract will become an insurance return/tax write-off & if Al wants to remain in the Yanks Organization, he will become the head Valet at aforementioned Garage. Otherwise, he has the bank to leave the organization and make his ‘blond bimboes on parade’ hobby a full time gig.

    When all of the pieces are in place, Derek will be able to pass Pete Rose at 4,256 and bring dignity and respect to the all-time hits record.

    You heard it here first folks. Spread this around & tell your friends & neighbors because at least most of these predictions will come to pass (not so sure about the last four, but I remain hopeful).

    Mick
    http://mickhorigan.com

  120. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Mickthelight, I’m too slow to read such a long post :)

  121. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Mick in the limelight, stick with Sting.

  122. joeman January 27th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    pitching staff will be good without a injury or two…hitting looking at what they lost an what they have added I think not as good……talking reg season stats

  123. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Sting, afterall, is an Englishman in New York.

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  125. jmills January 27th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Joe, I think I know the way u feel; keep on a’ rititng mon ami.

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