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Monday night notes and links: Cashman talks decision making

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 28, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Very worthwhile Q&A with Brian Cashman over at Index Universe, an online finance and investment publication. The questions are centered around the ways a baseball general manager’s decision making process is similar to those in business and investing.

Two of Cashman’s responses that stand out:

Asked about the advantages of having a high payroll…
“Being in the position to have the highest payroll means you can support that payroll. So it gives you full access to all pools of talent, but with that access comes exponential pressure to perform. A lot of times, payroll will not translate into performance, because ultimately, when you commit to long-term multiyear contracts, there is always a declining value of the player over the course of time, but the value of the contract stays the same or gets worse. Sometimes you want to have the payroll that might be No. 1, but the production from individual players that make up a large percentage of that payroll will be in decline as they age, so most of the time it won’t match up.”

Asked about his relationship with Joe Girardi…
“I’m the head of baseball operations, so I set policy on the baseball side and I’ve hired the manager. In this case it’s Joe Girardi, and he is an extension of my philosophy. I hired someone that I knew thought along the same lines as I do. I acquire the players. I put the roster together, and then he takes that roster on the field. When I hire a player or replace a player, I define the role to Joe, such as, this guy is going to be our everyday center fielder, right fielder, first baseman, what have you. Then he executes. He does the lineups. I’ll make suggestions on lineups and we may disagree at times, but ultimately he puts forth the lineup and the construction of the lineup the way he sees it, but plays the players that clearly I have acquired and for the reasons I have acquired them.”

• Michael Pineda will throw off a half mound tomorrow. Cashman confirmed that Pineda has progressed to that stage of his rehab after extensive flat ground work. Just another step in the process. Still a long way from game action.

Freddy Garcia has found a home. The former Yankees starter/reliever/punching bag has signed a minor league deal with the Padres.

• Nick Johnson is calling it a career. According to Sweeny Murti, Johnson has decided to retire after 10 big league seasons. He might be best remembered for all of the injuries, but he will retire with a .399 on-base percentage.

• Scott Lauber writes that Boston GM Ben Cherington believes the Red Sox might surprise some people this season and make a run at the American League East.

The Rays have signed free agent Kelly Johnson. The left-handed hitter was one of the better players still on the market, but the Yankees roster already has a left-handed second baseman and three left-handed outfielders, so his fit in New York would have been minimal. Doesn’t exactly strike me as the DH type.

• Still waiting for the Yankees to announce their full list of non-roster invites. Today the Marlins announced theirs, including John Maine (who pitched for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre last year) and the Cardinals announced theirs (including Justin Christian, the speedy outfielder who got some big league time with the Yankees in 2008 and played some for the Giants the past two years).

• Michael Kay has signed an extension with YES Network. From a press release: “Michael Kay, whose voice has been synonymous with the YES Network since its launch in 2002, has signed a multi-year extension with the network to remain its lead New York Yankees play-by-play voice. Kay, who has earned 21 Emmy nominations and 3 Emmy wins while at YES, will also continue hosting YES’ award-winning CenterStage with Michael Kay show, along with other shows and specials on the network.”

• Speaking of TV networks, pay attention to what’s happening out in Los Angeles where the Dodgers have announced the launch of their own network. Several factors, including which company is taking the risk in creating the network, will determine how much of that revenue is subject to revenue sharing.

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240 Responses to “Monday night notes and links: Cashman talks decision making”

  1. Rich in NJ January 28th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    It’s like Stevie Wonder talking about sight.

    “Sometimes you want to have the payroll that might be No. 1, but the production from individual players that make up a large percentage of that payroll will be in decline as they age, so most of the time it won’t match up.”

    Or sometimes they decline before they age, like Tex, or aren’t good almost from the beginning, like AJ, or Pavano, or Vazquez…

    Take some responsibility, dude.

    “In this case it’s Joe Girardi, and he is an extension of my philosophy. I hired someone that I knew thought along the same lines as I do. I acquire the players.”

    The philosophy has produced an aging team of one-dimensional players, a gaping hole behind the plate, a bunch of bad trades.

  2. DocTodd January 28th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Thank God Nick Johnson is retiring. Now Cashman won’t be tempted to sign him yet again!

  3. Felix Unger January 28th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Juan Rivera ! How much worse is it going to get ?

  4. yankeefeminista January 28th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    FWIW, here’s the top 10 OF prospects link: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    “In this case it’s Joe Girardi, and he is an extension of my philosophy. I hired someone that I knew thought along the same lines as I do.”

    Scary thought.

  5. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/-.....#038;rel=0

    I suggest u all watch Sting instead, he looks better than Geddy Lee although the bass thing is up for debate :)

  6. Against All Odds January 28th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Clones all over the place

  7. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Against, when Peter Gabriel left in’74 after lamb Lies Down, Phil went up front to take over vocal duties for, Genesis. Bill Bruford filled in and often there were double drums live with, Chester Thompson.

    I recommend the live album, ” Seconds Out, ” to anybody.

  8. MTU January 28th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    Cashman makes Joe G. sound like a glorified puppet with a binder.

  9. MTU January 28th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    The more I hear Cashman speak the less I like hearing him.

    The more I see him act the less I like that too.

    Oftentimes these days he strikes me as rather arrogant.

    Maybe it’s just me ?

    ;)

  10. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    MTU, I love the Doors circum avec like you! :)

  11. austinmac January 28th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Nothing runs better than a company filled with yes men. Cashman says he agrees with everything Hal thinks and now he expects Girardi to agree with all his thoughts.

    The group consciousness needs revamping.

  12. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    Euphorbies aren’t succeptable to mealy bug, thank god. The benjaminas get scale like u can’t believe.

  13. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Austin, yeah, its amazing that tube amp radio of mine conmes on at all. I took it for dead mon ami.

  14. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    MTU, my attitide with the tropicals at this point? – its swim or sink, baby,… that’s why I love cacti that u can basically forget for 3 months in a northern light.

  15. austinmac January 28th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    I need to turn mine on after years of disuse.

  16. blake January 28th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    I think it’s good for a GM and manager to be on the same page….but the manager shouldn’t be a yes man for the GM….GMs aren’t managers for a reason and vice versa

  17. MTU January 28th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    Mac-

    Does seem like a lot of Groupthink going on.

    Change might not be such a bad thing after all.

  18. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Austin, give it a go, we’re not getting any younger ! :D

  19. austinmac January 28th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Jmills,

    To be clear, I was talking about my radio. :)

  20. Rich in NJ January 28th, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    “Nothing runs better than a company filled with yes men. Cashman says he agrees with everything Hal thinks and now he expects Girardi to agree with all his thoughts.

    The group consciousness needs revamping”

    The real boss is the Benjamins. The problem is that the franchise makes so much money, that they have forgotten that they would still make a ton of money (maybe even more money) if they prioritized the long view rather than the short view.

  21. jmills January 28th, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    Austin, Goddess love ya’!

  22. Rich in NJ January 28th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    “Austin, Goddess love ya’!”

    Scanning quickly, I read that as Austan Goolsbee.

  23. austinmac January 28th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    I am glad to be loved by goddesses. Well deserved but that’s just my opinion.

    I just checked Matt Diaz stats again. He has been abysmal the last two years.

  24. UnKnown January 28th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Not sure what we are going to do without FAREEEDY’S “veteran experience” on the team.

    Somehow I think we will survive. :lol:

  25. Nick in SF January 28th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    “Warning Track Power January 28th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    To Nick in SF-
    Did you buy any Yankees vs A’s tickets yesterday?
    I didn’t but I am thinking about buying some today”

    Sorry for the late reply. No, I haven’t been paying close enough attention, but I see that yesterday was the single-game ticket on-sale. Three weekday games in June, looks like that’s it. Blah. I will probably try to go to all three games. Maybe this will be a good year to try to take in some games in Seattle/Anaheim too.

  26. MTU January 28th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Have a good evening.

    Catch you all manana.

  27. Nick in SF January 28th, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    (Yes, I know, I’m violating the terms of the fan boycott. Sorry.)

  28. austinmac January 28th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    I haven’t heard anyone around here calling for a boycott, as you well know. If the team struggles, attendance will suffer. Not a great leap of logic.

  29. Nick in SF January 28th, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    I have heard of such a thing, as you may not well know.

  30. Bronx Jeers January 28th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Technically speaking, away games are allowed provided that the credit card being utilized is not billed to a New York address under section 237.16-870 of the official boycott code.

  31. Nick in SF January 28th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    What about buying a new Yankee cap? Allowed as long as I don’t buy it inside of Yankee Stadium? Encouraged if I buy one that “fell off the truck”?

  32. Rich in NJ January 28th, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Why do they call it boycott? It sounds sexist, and we don’t need any more of that around here……………

  33. Nick in SF January 28th, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    How about calling gritty players of color hoagies?

  34. Rich in NJ January 28th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Neil deGrasse Tyson ?@neiltyson

    Just to settle it once and for all: Which came first the Chicken or the Egg? The Egg — laid by a bird that was not a Chicken

  35. Bronx Jeers January 28th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Obviously the best option would be to steal a cap directly from Yankee Stadium as that would actually take money out of the hands of he Yankee org. although this is not at all recommended.

    Purchasing a stolen cap is the next best option but it must be stolen prior to reaching a retail store unless the store is MLB sanctioned.

    But be aware that there are restrictions regarding the wearing of Yankee paraphernalia as it is considered a promotional or marketing device. For instance, in NYC you may only wear a Yankee cap while committing a felony.

  36. Rich in NJ January 28th, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    “Obviously the best option would be to steal a cap directly from Yankee Stadium as that would actually take money out of the hands of he Yankee org. although this is not at all recommended.”

    That reminds of a book on a college reading list that I never read:

    http://www.amazon.com/Steal-Th.....156858217X

  37. Nick in SF January 28th, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    Stealing a cap from Yankee Stadium is tricky because I don’t know how to get in without buying a ticket and buying a ticket is kind of self-defeating and Hal-enriching.

    It’s not simple like on that show “Prison Break” where the guy commits a crime to get sent to prison to try to break his brother and himself out of that very same prison.

    I need to think this over.

  38. Bronx Jeers January 28th, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    There’s a hand-stamping process in place at the stadium Hard Rock Cafe that allows re-entry. The boycott committee is working on getting replicas of those stamps. It’s code name is “Operation Meanwell”

  39. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    Is Cashman talking his marriage with that payroll exposition?

  40. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 12:16 am

    Rich, I did steal that book btw at a local B&N , I still haven’t read it.

  41. Run it Out January 29th, 2013 at 12:29 am

    Great news. More of the lazy Michael Kay who can talk about himself and the color commentators in the booth but knows very little about the players on the field and is too lazy to do any research. He is a perfect YES man however.

  42. Felix Unger January 29th, 2013 at 1:42 am

    Is Michael Kay the biggest signing buy the NYY this offseason ? Think so, which is very sad.

  43. roselora January 29th, 2013 at 4:16 am

    I’ll add a hint by telling you thank you for this blog both entertaining and intelligent. It is a pleasure to come and browse.

    Voyance gratuitement

  44. comnsnse January 29th, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Re: Cashman comments, these are typical of the elitist nonsense that attempts to cover an inadequacies and failures of performance.

    What he should or could have said was without the team success on the field folks will not be running home from work to see Michael Kay or anyone else.

    When you create a business model of success by spending,sudden austerity is often a prelude to selling that business.

    The organization has been mismanaged by all with Cashman a the head of the list.

  45. comnsnse January 29th, 2013 at 7:55 am

    Kay indeed has become another empty suit.

    Do not expect much to change as the era of the Cosell’s “tell it like it is”, is long gone.

    Replaced my the “jockocracy” he warned about who will rarely criticize other players,and never management.

    Just another version of “go along to get along”,and keep making the big bucks by telling folks what’s happening on a visual medium. Sort of like having the person next to you at a game narrating every action!

  46. blake January 29th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    @Joelsherman1: Column http://t.co/CETLciJZ I’m reporting #Mets GM Alderson secretly met last wk in Hou with Bourn to try to up long-shot chances to land OF

  47. PacoDooley January 29th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Speaking of Pineda, Montero is discussing his readiness to be a full time catcher. If he can pull it off, it will really change our evaluation of that trade (obviously Pineda’s future will also be a key):

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/m.....1;mlb.html

  48. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Ninja Alderson, I am not sure anything is accomplished by ‘secretly’ meeting an agent in this case. did I miss something, Alderson is offering a pot of leprechaun as oppose to Benjamins?

  49. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    #leprechaun gold :D

  50. Frankg January 29th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    That’s scarry, the power that Cashman says he has. He has a boss too that can overrule him, and I think he has gotten more supervision since he has a tendency to make bad trades. He is very good at looking at the scrap heap and coming up with good bargains, which would make him an attractive candidate for an Asst GM job. He is a mediocre GM at best. I thought his off the field troubles would be his undoing, but was apparently wrong. He’s on a short leesh, but talks big.

  51. austinmac January 29th, 2013 at 8:21 am

    All people in the Yankee system must be on script from Cashman to Girardi to Kay. All is good. Hal is shrewd. The budget will make us all better. We are building for the future with Juan Rivera.

    I’ll have to work on it before I apply for a job.

  52. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Asked about the advantages of having a high payroll…
    “Being in the position to have the highest payroll means you can support that payroll. So it gives you full access to all pools of talent, but with that access comes exponential pressure to perform. A lot of times, payroll will not translate into performance, because ultimately, when you commit to long-term multiyear contracts, there is always a declining value of the player over the course of time, but the value of the contract stays the same or gets worse. Sometimes you want to have the payroll that might be No. 1, but the production from individual players that make up a large percentage of that payroll will be in decline as they age, so most of the time it won’t match up.”
    ———-
    Translation: yeah we have had a high payroll since I been on the board , but really guys, payroll is a double edge and mostly they just set unrealistic expectations for my team. I think the depreciation of talent invariably occur in multi year deals, and I signed a lot ppl to lot of multi year deals but no worries that the nature of having a large payroll. Hi, I am Cashman, basically what I am saying is, nothing is really my fault i am just part of large payroll dynamics.

  53. blake January 29th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Hal filters the same propaganda all through the organization

  54. blake January 29th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    @JonHeymanCBS: arod, melky, gio gonzalez, nelson cruz linked to ped clinic, via miami new times (& @injuryexpert) http://t.co/TzbT484N

    Gio? That’s new

  55. Against All Odds January 29th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    Nelson Cruz too

  56. yankeefeminista January 29th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    It should instead identify the players who aren’t linked. Let’s continue to pretend Peds aren’t prevalent in baseball.

  57. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    PED seem to be running rampant in baseball YF and in latin baseball communities, specifically, DR imo.

  58. blake January 29th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Suggests Alex has been taking HGH

  59. AAA January 29th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Terribly disappointing to think Rodriguez may have been juicing (not sure this is the right verb) last season and only OPS’d .783.

  60. Tackelberry January 29th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    MTU January 28th, 2013 at 10:14 pm
    The more I hear Cashman speak the less I like hearing him.

    The more I see him act the less I like that too.

    Oftentimes these days he strikes me as rather arrogant.

    Maybe it’s just me ?

    ____________________________

    I’m sure he feels the same way about alot of the commenters on here.

  61. blake January 29th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Some pretty Incrimnating stuff on Alex in there….if true he’s just incredibly dumb….I’m sorry….I’ve defended Alex for years but if he gets caught up in this mess again after 2009 then the Yanks should pursue voiding his contract…..they won’t be successful most likely but they should try just on principle as its an embarrassment to the organization and it’s a constant distraction to the team…..plus they haven’t even worked cause he’s declined and can’t stay healthy.

  62. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    Can Uncle Albert be far behind?

  63. Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    Legalize PEDs, banish liars.

  64. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Blake,

    Here’s a longer story on it.

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......ers-named/

  65. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    The “liars” are lying even if they admit usage, because they’re not going to “out” their buddies.

    Must be difficult to say those disingenuous “mea culpa”s and feign contrition, when you know the guy who’s locker is next to yours is just saying “but for the grace of God, and excellent evasive tactics, there go I.”

    Then, these guys talk about how “disappointed” they are in outed teammates, but how “we’ll be there for him,” etc, even though they themselves are likely using.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    *whose locker, crap

  67. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Melky, Alex and Cano are great friends, work out during the offseason together – two of the three have been busted and/or linked to steroids as recently as this past year – anyone care to wager on Cano?

  68. blake January 29th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Chip,
    Yea..:incredible

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    PED seem to be running rampant in baseball YF and in latin baseball communities, specifically, DR imo.
    ///

    Not just the DR. See Braun.

  70. yankeefeminista January 29th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Mlb is filled with hypocrisy generally. I am not surprised by any of this. Hopefully, Cano isn’t next.

  71. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Blake -

    I know I’m in the minority on this – but I run as fast and as far from Cano as possible this coming winter. I know it is guilt by association and there’s nothing to link him to HGH or steroid use other than his relationship with Alex and Melky, but I’ve watched Alex break down as he gets older and at least part of that is linked to his usage (though not all of it). I don’t want to go through this again with Robinson. Let the Dodgers or Nationals take that risk.

  72. Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    I was being sarcastic, but the failure to “rat out” is significant because the MLBPA could have made an effort to get rid of the cheaters years ago, but the clean players didn’t want to risk it, and as a result everyone is under suspicion.

  73. yankeefeminista January 29th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Not just the DR. See Braun.
    ______
    Yep, Braun gets off on a technicality. Tainted sample, indeed…

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    I’ll wager this is the approximate NYPOST or Daily News backpage headline in coming days:

    “Yankees 2009 Title Tainted.”

  75. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    YankeeFem -

    What’s the hypocrisy here? MLB hasn’t been involved in this.

  76. Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    That is not the reason to not sign Cano. It is purely economic. Again, he would have to be traded now.

  77. comnsnse January 29th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Just read an article wherein some genius proposes that PEDS and “fair”competition can coexist by allowing each team to have several peds users.

    Apparently the stats for PEDS users would be differentiated so the public could weigh their use vs performance.

    Are there days when you feel the end is near?

    PS,the genius is a lawyer. Arod is and has been( excellent choice to describe him) a user before and likely after the ban!

  78. yankeefeminista January 29th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Chip, mlb has turned the other cheek for years. And their bans indicate that they don’t really take usage seriously.

  79. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax January 29th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:48 am
    Melky, Alex and Cano are great friends, work out during the offseason together – two of the three have been busted and/or linked to steroids as recently as this past year – anyone care to wager on Cano?

    ******

    I don’t want it to be so, but – - – -

  80. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    JAP -

    More likely, there will be conspiracy theorists who believe that if Alex misses the entire season due to his hip that only part of the season was lost due to injury and the rest was a secret suspension. Though I don’t know why anyone would believe that given that MLB did suspend ManRam for 100 games.

  81. ac1 January 29th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    So A-Rod is on another PED list? I have to be honest, if he was taking PEDs in the last 3 years, except for te 2009 playoffs, they weren’t working very well and calls into question whether they are actually enhancing performance.

    None the less, if Alex takes a 50 gam suspension (which he cant because no positive test), thats 1/3 of $ 27.5 million that comes off the books.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    I was being sarcastic, but the failure to “rat out” is significant because the MLBPA could have made an effort to get rid of the cheaters years ago, but the clean players didn’t want to risk it, and as a result everyone is under suspicion.
    ///

    Maybe they figured they couldn’t sacrifice the larger community for like five players ;)

  83. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    yankeefeminista January 29th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Chip, mlb has turned the other cheek for years. And their bans indicate that they don’t really take usage seriously.
    ————————-

    50 games and 100 games are serious bans.

    But I agree with you – MLB turned a blind eye to steroids for years and reaped the benefits of these goliaths so I take Bud’s outrage with a heap of salt.

  84. Tackelberry January 29th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Joelsherman1 Commish Office feels all teams knew rules and would be unfair to others to change this late in offfseason to help #Mets bit.ly/VknfjK

    Good. Screw the Mets. Who are they that they think they should be able to sign Bourn and still keep their #1 draft pick.

  85. Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    A-Rod won’t get a fig leaf from MLB. He will get constructively punched in the face.

  86. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax January 29th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    MLB is not going to care too much about this – unless it involved their two crowned jewels – - – -

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    “That’s why we didn’t go after Gio. We knew he was really a 5th starter without the drugs.”

    /Cashman

  88. ac1 January 29th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    I do love how the writers attack arod though, and then cover their butts by attributing the info to the Miami Herald. Lame ‘reporting’ by supposed serious writers.

  89. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Jap, I was talking a friend of who is originally from DR, what he said was interesting about HGH in Dominican Republic. He basically said it’s readily available and ppl takes as elixir to all. DR players makes up about roughly 10 percent of baseball populations and over half of baseball ban had come from DR players. this is a disproportion amt from where I stand. As far as Braun goes, sure, PED is running rampant in baseball period.

  90. Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Could PED usage explain Cashman’s erratic behavior???

  91. Chip January 29th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    That is not the reason to not sign Cano. It is purely economic. Again, he would have to be traded now.
    —————–

    Rich, it’s absolutely reason to do it. Part of the reason the Yankees gave Alex the contract they did was based on the notion of him breaking Bonds’s records and making them clean again. Knowing how A-rod has deteriorated, and the annoyance that his steroid use has caused don’t you think they would have walked away when he opted out?

    If they think Cano could pose that same kind of risk, that years 34 – 39 on his 8 year contract would be injury filled with controversy while he ties up a significant salary – that’s plenty of reason to let him walk. But yes, they should have traded him.

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    “Never said I was a stool pigeon
    Never said I was a diplomat
    Everybody is under suspicion
    But you don’t wanna hear about that.”
    /DeclanMacManus

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Could PED usage explain Cashman’s erratic behavior???
    ///

    I suppose Louise Meanwell could loosely qualify as a PED.

  94. Rich in NJ January 29th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Chip

    Even if it is, I wouldn’t give him the money even if he was 100% clean, but I would still sign him at a steep discount.

  95. blake January 29th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    @Buster_ESPN: As with Manny: There will be a time with Alex Rodriguez when the side stuff will outweigh the production, and NYY will want him to go away.

  96. Cashmoney January 29th, 2013 at 9:04 am

    Rich, I think Priapism is known to cause erratic behaviors.

  97. J. Alfred Prufrock January 29th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    ac1 January 29th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    So A-Rod is on another PED list? I have to be honest, if he was taking PEDs in the last 3 years, except for te 2009 playoffs, they weren’t working very well and calls into question whether they are actually enhancing performance.
    ///

    LOL, good point.

  98. AAA January 29th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Yankees 2009 Title Tainted.”

    =========================

    Probably hasn’t been a title won by anybody since the mid 80′s that wasn’t tainted if use of PEDs is the measure we’re using.

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