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Weekend leftovers: Cashman, Teixeira and unfinished business

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 04, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Cool post from John this morning, and I’m sure I’ll end up looking back at it later today, but for now I want to make sure three things didn’t slip your attention over the weekend.

• Speaking on Jim Bowden’s radio show, Brian Cashman said he’s still looking for a right-handed outfielder. When the Yankees signed Juan Rivera to a minor league contract last week, they basically took the best remaining free agent option off the market, so I have to think Cashman is referring to a potential trade.  

• Terrific stuff from my friend Dan Barbarisi who wrote this weekend about Mark Teixeira’s attitude on getting older. It’s full of rarely heard honesty from a professional athlete who acknowledges his best days are behind him. “And instead of trying to do things differently on the backside of my career, why not focus on the things I do well, and try to be very good at that?” Teixeira said.

• On the 15th anniversary of Cashman becoming the Yankees general manager, Richard Justice took a look back at Cashman’s time at the helm. “Regardless of how 2013 plays out, Cashman’s legacy seems secure,” Justice wrote. “He took over the Yankees at a time when Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams and Jorge Posada were on their way to defining another era of Yankee dominance. Cashman — along with the Steinbrenner family, Jeter and others — has kept it going. The Yankees have won just one championship the last 11 seasons, but they’ve been in the mix every year. As legacies go — and especially Yankee legacies — that’s not a bad one.”

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80 Responses to “Weekend leftovers: Cashman, Teixeira and unfinished business”

  1. Ys Guy February 4th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    jim harbaugh with his weak-a$$ whining and crying showed his true colors on the biggest stage.

  2. Mike Ri February 4th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    • Speaking on Jim Bowden?s radio show, Brian Cashman said he?s still looking for a right-handed outfielder.? When the Yankees signed? Juan Rivera to a minor league contract last week, they basically took the best? remaining free agent option off the market, so I have to think Cashman is referring to a potential? trade. ?

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    interesting

  3. Jerkface February 4th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    jim harbaugh with his weak-a$$ whining and crying showed his true colors on the biggest stage.

    true colors implies that he has ever attempted to hide that kind of behavior. He is pretty well known as being angry and whiny.

  4. Bronx Jeers February 4th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    They’re playing “New York, New York” as they carry Ed Koch out of St Patricks to the hearse and I’m getting excited to go to Yankee stadium.

  5. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Exactly. True colors is more of a college football coach measurement. Guys like Belichik, Jim Harbaugh, Coughlin, etc. Those guys make no bones about the fact that they’re miserable bast*rds.

  6. Bronx Jeers February 4th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Not St. Patricks. He was Jewish. Duh.

  7. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    I have NO problem with a coach in any sport vehemently complaining about inept officiating, and that’s what was on display last night. We all saw that mugging in the end zone. The Zebra’s chose to wimp out. Hell, they even mis-spotted the ball and awarded a 1st down to the Ravens, and that had to be corrected by a SF challenge. I will take a MLB Ump over Any official in Any other sport. The stuff we saw going on the entire game last night, was Pop Warner League worthy.

  8. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    We all saw that mugging in the end zone.

    ========================

    It wasn’t a mugging. Nobody gets that call at that stage of the game. Was nowhere near egregious enough.

    If Harbaugh has any gripe, it should be with his sh*t play calling once they were 1st and goal from the 7.

  9. Mike_Boston February 4th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Donny,
    That ball in the end zone was uncatchable, good non call. Horrible play calling on those last 4 plays. They deserved to lose.

  10. Tackelberry February 4th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Donny,
    That ball in the end zone was uncatchable, good non call. Horrible play calling on those last 4 plays. They deserved to lose.

    ________________________________

    Uncatchable refers to a pass interference, but they definitely could have called holding there as the defender had a hold of Crabtree’s jersey. But I agree the play calling on that last set of downs was pretty bad. Felt they could have tried a naked bootleg from Kaperneick or a draw play to Gore on 1st or 2nd down.

  11. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    That play in the end zone would have been “Holding” Not interferrence, as it involved holding\contact with a receiver Over 5yds past the line of scrimmage. And the holding that was going on in the end zone during the Raven punter’s running around, was absolutely horrible. You could see Raven linemen with both their arms around SF linemen’s waists, giving the punter time to run around back there and kill the clock. A flag should have been immediately thrown, and time put back on the clock.

  12. Benny Blanco February 4th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Tex has been getting a pass for the past three years.

  13. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Who else never wants to see the words ‘left overs’ on the blog again?

  14. Mike_Boston February 4th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Non calls late in games are a norm. Remember in the 07 game on the helmet catch, the holding on that play was ridiculously blatant. Refs don’t want to make that call to change the outcome, this isn’t anything new. The pats blew that game by putting their smallest corner on plax single covered and Samuel not catching 2 pics in his hands.
    Blaming refs is an exercise in futility.

  15. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    If it was me, I woulda gone shotgun and rolled the QB R\L all 4 downs. The SF QB and his scrambling abilities are severely hindered when under center and dropping straight back.

  16. Against All Odds February 4th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    We all saw that mugging in the end zone.

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    Mugging would be an understatement

  17. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    The Deadspin article on how bad announcers are at doing their job is pretty amazing. I was pretty surprised that a bunch of football guys couldn’t come up with anything to like.. talk about. Did they waste all their talking points in the two weeks between games?

  18. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    You could see Raven linemen with both their arms around SF linemen’s waists, giving the punter time to run around back there and kill the clock. A flag should have been immediately thrown, and time put back on the clock.

    =================================

    This is true. Play started with 11 seconds left. If holding were called, probably would have left Niner 7-8 seconds rather than 4. Of course had SF managed their timeouts a little better, they could have made that a non issue too.

  19. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Jerkface February 4th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Keith Law ranks the Yankee farm system 10th.
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    I don’t get prospect rankings.

    It seems like it’s far too subjective to be even close to accurate.

  20. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    I wonder if Tex would be so “honest” if he was in his contract year, and if he would be motivated to make adjustments rather than just muse about aging even though this started when he was 30, iow, not that old. Given his intransigence, his comments are kind of offputting.

    I wish they could dump his contract somewhere.

  21. Jerkface February 4th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    It seems like it’s far too subjective to be even close to accurate.

    They are entirely subjective, but they are fun to talk about and are a good yard stick of where prospects/systems are held in the general view of baseball. Which is useful if you want to make tons of trade proposals ;)

  22. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    It seems like it’s far too subjective to be even close to accurate.

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    It’s entirely subjective, and like a lot of predictions, not always accurate.

  23. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Or, what Jerkface said.

  24. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Almost everything is subjective to some degree. Accuracy can be assessed over time, not now, as with any attempt at prediction in any field.

  25. hardwired7 February 4th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    ” I was pretty surprised that a bunch of football guys couldn’t come up with anything to like.. talk about.”

    Reminded me of that funny SNL skit “Wake Up and Smile” about what happens if the teleprompter fails:

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/281936

  26. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    I wish they could dump his contract somewhere.

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    I’ve argued Tex is the most movable of the big contracts.

    Before LaRoche, I thought he’d be a fit on the Nats. I also thought the Orioles might want a guy like Tex. There are a lot of teams that could use a 30/100 guy that plays above average D, and won’t care about the average. Throw in some cash and I think you’d get a very solid return for him.

  27. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Almost everything is subjective to some degree. Accuracy can be assessed over time, not now, as with any attempt at prediction in any field.
    —————-

    Yeah but what I mean is: if a team has some decent guys who project as ML Regulars but they’re in the high minors which means they have a higher likelihood of making the majors, do you rank them higher than a team with guys who project as elite players but are farther down the pipe?

  28. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    hardwired7 February 4th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    ” I was pretty surprised that a bunch of football guys couldn’t come up with anything to like.. talk about.”

    Reminded me of that funny SNL skit “Wake Up and Smile” about what happens if the teleprompter fails:

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/281936

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    LOL, very nice.

  29. 86w183 February 4th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    You could see Raven linemen with both their arms around SF linemen’s waists, giving the punter time to run around back there and kill the clock. A flag should have been immediately thrown, and time put back on the clock.

    =================================

    This is true. Play started with 11 seconds left. If holding were called, probably would have left Niner 7-8 seconds rather than 4. Of course had SF managed their timeouts a little better, they could have made that a non issue too.

    ************************************************************************

    Wrong boys… dead wrong! the play runs throughout regardless of penalties or non penalties. There is no rule that allows officials to put time back on the clock due to a penalty.

    It’s precisely why a game cannot end on a defensive penalty.

  30. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Tex was completely right about his contract. He’s overpaid – but then again so are a ton of guys around the league, but whereas the desire to live up to a contract he couldn’t possibly live up to completely derailed Vernon Wells; Tex is just going to keep playing as if he’s a guy making the league minimum and not try to be a .350 hitter with 60 HRs

  31. 86w183 February 4th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Tex has a no-trade…. why would he give in to a deal? If he wanted to be “home” in Maryland he would have taken the Orioles’ offer

  32. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Wrong boys… dead wrong! the play runs throughout regardless of penalties or non penalties. There is no rule that allows officials to put time back on the clock due to a penalty.

    It’s precisely why a game cannot end on a defensive penalty

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    Good point. You are correct.

  33. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    86w183 February 4th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Tex has a no-trade…. why would he give in to a deal? If he wanted to be “home” in Maryland he would have taken the Orioles’ offer
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    Agreed –

    I love the notion that players will accept trades to leave the Yankees because we (Yankee fans) want them to.

  34. blake February 4th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Has it been posted yet that Law ranked the Yanks #10 farm system

  35. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Has it been posted yet that Law ranked the Yanks #10 farm system

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    It has. JF on last page.

  36. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    blake February 4th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Has it been posted yet that Law ranked the Yanks #10 farm system
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    Yes, thus leading to my question about whether or not the rankings mean anything given how subjective they are.

    The other thing I find interesting is that the same guys who do the rankings are, by and large, the guys who are the most critical of people who use subjective rational to evaluate players (such as “clutch performances”)

  37. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    That’s true, Shame. IIRC, you mentioned a potential Tex trade before AGone was sent to the LAD, and Cashman (whose legacy I question, unlike Justice) said the Yankees would not have any interest in doing that kind of move, when it is exactly the kind of move they should be trying to make. If they put enough pressure on him, they could get him to waive his no-trade.

    Chip, I think they have to have a weighting system, as well as an explanation of it. Obviously, it’s safer to project a player who is closer to the ML regardless of their ceiling. And that’s even more true of pitching prospects due to the injury risk. But you’re right, that’s where some of the subjectivity flows from.

  38. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Time is Frequently put back on the clock when false start penalties are called.

  39. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    86w183 February 4th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Tex has a no-trade…. why would he give in to a deal? If he wanted to be “home” in Maryland he would have taken the Orioles’ offer

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    No one seems to think Arod’s no trade is standing in the way of anything.. make him uncomfortable enough and Tex would take the trade. No trades very rarely keep players on clubs that want them gone for whatever reason.. it just helps them control the destination a bit more.

  40. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    The other thing I find interesting is that the same guys who do the rankings are, by and large, the guys who are the most critical of people who use subjective rational to evaluate players (such as “clutch performances”)

    ================================================

    Apples and oranges.

  41. 86w183 February 4th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    All “rankings” are subjective and none of them mean much of anything.

    Except in college football, that is where the idiots in charge think it’s a good way to determine a National Champion.

  42. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Agreed –

    I love the notion that players will accept trades to leave the Yankees because we (Yankee fans) want them to.

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    Chip – You are on board with the idea that Arod will never play for the Yankees again even though there are about a million obstacles in the way, right?

    Arod isn’t going away. Tex actually has value and might if you told him he’d be a platoon guy. Imagine them hanging Tex out to dry.. he’d never want to stick around.

  43. AAA February 4th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Time is Frequently put back on the clock when false start penalties are called.

    ==========================

    If by frequently, you mean always, then you are correct. False start = no play. Holding does not.

  44. Jerkface February 4th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Yes, thus leading to my question about whether or not the rankings mean anything given how subjective they are.

    The other thing I find interesting is that the same guys who do the rankings are, by and large, the guys who are the most critical of people who use subjective rational to evaluate players (such as “clutch performances”)

    Prospect ranking is much less subjective than ‘clutch performances’. Its an attempt at an ordinal ranking based on an agreed upon structure. While the structure is subjective (a given minor league guy could use projection rather than performance for example) as long as the entire group is ranked using the same rules the rankings themselves are not as subjective.

    Also I don’t even think half of the minor league ranking guys are SABR people. Baseball America, Sickels, and MLB are certainly not. So I don’t think there is anything interesting about Keith Law ranking prospects while also disbelieving in clutch players.

  45. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    I love the notion that players will accept trades to leave the Yankees because we (Yankee fans) want them to.
    _

    It’s not a notion, it’s common sense. If a player is told he won’t play, he will almost certainly agree to leave for extra money.

  46. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    False start = Penalty

  47. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    That’s true, Shame. IIRC, you mentioned a potential Tex trade before AGone was sent to the LAD, and Cashman (whose legacy I question, unlike Justice) said the Yankees would not have any interest in doing that kind of move, when it is exactly the kind of move they should be trying to make. If they put enough pressure on him, they could get him to waive his no-trade.

    ——————

    People made it out to be that I was trying to get rid of him. Frankly I like Tex and like what he brings to the table. I just don’t like him if he’s holding us up from making other moves with that salary. You literally can’t move CC… he’s too important to the present and the future.. no one will ever want Arod. Ever. But Tex? There’s possibilities there, IMO.

    We probably won’t try to explore them until he only has a year left on his deal and has depreciated immensely, however.

  48. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Let’s see what CC looks like following that surgery, before saying he’s untouchable.

  49. BIG AL February 4th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    I could not disagree with Tex more, a great player learns to make adjustments as his talent wanes. So I guess all we can expect from Tex is his upper cut swing for the fences each and every at bat, a low BA, but a good HR total for an ageing player, and not much more.

    With that being the case, Tex should be OK as a number 6 batter, but, I’m sure due to the “Book” Girardi will still bat him 3rd or 4th.

  50. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    “People made it out to be that I was trying to get rid of him. Frankly I like Tex and like what he brings to the table. I just don’t like him if he’s holding us up from making other moves with that salary.”

    Some people like to find fault with those that question the supposed common wisdom As if it’s working so well.

    He is just not worth the money anymore, and given his complacent attitude about his decline, he apparently has no incentive to do anything about it.

    Sooner or later, if the present trajectory of his career remains the same, he will only play v. LHP. It’s unavoidable if they want to win a lot of games.

    The best thing that could happen to his career might be the wake-up call of being forced out of town.

    But no, let’s just beat up A-Rod He’s a far easier target.

  51. JRC February 4th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Without a doubt Cashman loves the Yankees, he refuses to believe that they can win the pennant, even with the new restrictions. Right handed batting outfielder, major trade, Stanton?

  52. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Shame –

    I don’t believe Alex will voluntarily retire or accept a trade though – I think the Yankees will end up eating the contract and releasing him, which is something he can’t control.

  53. blake February 4th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    “Yes, thus leading to my question about whether or not the rankings mean anything given how subjective they are.”

    It’s all subjective….I think putting the yanks anywhere from like 10-15 would be appropriate…..they could be one of the best in the game a year from now if things go their way this season….

  54. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Tex just isn’t worth the money we’re spending.. but still has enough value to bring you back something if you move him. I think I suggested keeping Swish as a 1B and moving Tex.

    Or maybe it would be a good opportunity to pull Arod off of 3B where he can injure himself more easily.

    Either way, we aren’t doing it lol.

  55. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    This might be one of the best comments ever regarding how useless many of the NFL analysts are:

    Shingen and 1 more

    “I thought the same thing. When they do a go-around the table for their final thoughts on strategy and it sounds like this-

    Dan Marino: They have to execute, and not make mistakes

    Bill Cowher: This will be won in the trenches – whoever wins the battle on the line wins the game.

    Boomer: They have to establish their own tempo.

    Shanno Sharpe: Whoever wants it more will win.

    - you realize that you just read 4 pages from an inspiration-a-day desk calendar and didn’t hear any football analysis.”

  56. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    That’s true, Shame. IIRC, you mentioned a potential Tex trade before AGone was sent to the LAD, and Cashman (whose legacy I question, unlike Justice) said the Yankees would not have any interest in doing that kind of move, when it is exactly the kind of move they should be trying to make. If they put enough pressure on him, they could get him to waive his no-trade.

    Chip, I think they have to have a weighting system, as well as an explanation of it. Obviously, it’s safer to project a player who is closer to the ML regardless of their ceiling. And that’s even more true of pitching prospects due to the injury risk. But you’re right, that’s where some of the subjectivity flows from.
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    Yeah but it’s not like there is some agreed upon method to evaluating farm systems. So while Law ranks the Yankees 10th Baseball America could rank them 20th and both have valid reasons for it. And teams could have a completely different evaluation entirely.

    I’m not saying they’re not fun, I think they’re lots of fun. But I look at them strictly as a “for fun” thing; not as a serious way of deciding how well the farm is doing.

  57. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Shame –

    I don’t believe Alex will voluntarily retire or accept a trade though – I think the Yankees will end up eating the contract and releasing him, which is something he can’t control.

    ——————-

    Of all the scenarios I think exist for ways to get rid of him, I consider this to be the least likely.

    They might decide to do this in 2016 or 2017, though.

  58. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    The team evaluation of farms is more my point though. For example, Law says the Yankees have the 10th best farm system and let’s say he said Gary Sanchez was the best catcher in the minors.

    We could sit here and say, Sanchez is the best catcher in the minors, we can use him to go get Yadier Molina and David Freese (again, just for example) but the Cards might have a ranking that shows Travis d’Arnaud as the best catcher in the minors and so they want to do a deal with the Mets and not the Yankees…know what I mean?

  59. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    I love the notion that players will accept trades to leave the Yankees because we (Yankee fans) want them to.
    _

    It’s not a notion, it’s common sense. If a player is told he won’t play, he will almost certainly agree to leave for extra money.
    ———————

    Why would you tell Tex he can’t play?

  60. blake February 4th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    The Yanks biggest issue with regards to trade value is that their prospects aren’t currently in AA or AAA….. If they have that group at Trenton this summer and they are hitting then that changes things.

  61. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Rich…

    And what’s more, if the only reason that Tex would accept a trade is because the Yankees are thinking of benching him, then why would I, as GM of Team X, trade for him? How many teams are lining up to give big money to a guy that another team is benching for poor performance?

  62. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Chip

    To facilitate a trade, assuming there is one to be made. Does he want to sit on the bench at 33? Again, at some point, he won’t be able to play v. RHP, unless things change with his swing, so it would be a pro-active move.

    Why would any team trade for any player? If they think that at some subsidized price, he is a good value. If not, then the Yankees are stuck with a very rich, self-satisfied, declining player.

  63. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Just what are Keith Law’s bona fides? Yea, he’s employed by ESPN, so what? To me, his opinion is of No more value than anybody else’s around here. I ain’t even gonna get into IF he has actually witnessed the play of Every player in Every organization, which truly needs to be the case in order to evaluate\rank every team’s minor league organization vs the others. Stick Michael vouches for someone, you got my attention. Other than that, forget it.

  64. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Chip – There was a team that wanted Tex just this summer. He has value, but maybe not for our club the way he would another team.

  65. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Chip

    To facilitate a trade, assuming there is one to be made. Does he want to sit on the bench at 33? Again, at some point, he won’t be able to play v. RHP, unless things change with his swing, so it would be a pro-active move.

    Why would any team trade for any player? If they think that at some subsidized price, he is a good value. If not, then the Yankees are stuck with a very rich, self-satisfied, declining player.
    ———————————

    Yes but to want to trade for Tex you need a team that has money and is a contender. And yet a team that has money and is a contender doesn’t think Tex helps them? That would make no sense to me as an opposing General Manager.

    If you look, most trades that send a player like a Tex to another team, are teams that aren’t contending to teams that are contending (such as Adrian Gonzalez to the Dodgers last year).

    By threatening to bench Tex all you are doing is devaluing him. Which is especially silly given that he’s still a good player.

    As for the “self-satisfied” stuff; I think you’re wrong on that. He’s just admitting something that other players don’t, that they’re grossly overpaid and that there’s no way to live up to that kind of salary. In fact, trying to live up to those enormous contracts have derailed careers.

  66. UnKnown February 4th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Anthony McCarron ?@AnthonyMcCarron
    Turkey vulture circling near Yanks’ complex. Insert your own 2013 Yankees joke here. pic.twitter.com/yaYTYDnk

    Erik Boland ?@eboland11
    First spring training photo! Outside the Yankees complex OF waiting for the on field action to begin pic.twitter.com/nd7BHWuU

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    Hope these two photos are not an indication of how the 2013 season is going to play out. Yikes…

  67. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Chip – There was a team that wanted Tex just this summer. He has value, but maybe not for our club the way he would another team.
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    Yeah but why would Tex want to move? If the only way you can get him to accept a deal is, as Rich suggests, by benching him and p*ssing him off, then you’re devaluing him as a trade chip. Also, you’re making yourself less desirable to future players; “why do I want to sign with the Yankees if they’re going to glue me to the bench to get me to accept a trade somewhere down the line?”

  68. pat February 4th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    eboland11
    Jeter, wisely, passed on A-Rod:”I don’t comment on anyone until they speak first. So let him address his situation before I comment on it”

    I look forward to reading what Derek thought of Tex’s comments.

  69. Chip February 4th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    I’m still not sure what Tex said that was wrong here?

  70. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Chip

    OTOH, every player is (or should be) tradeable for price, right (unless there are non-baseball reasons for not trading him)?

    And it’s not like Tex is valueless. He is still very good v. LHP, and increasingly kind of Rob Deer-like v. RHP.

    The problem for the Yankees is that he makes a lot of money, and it seems they want to spend less, which presents a problem filling out a roster and still being able to win.

    So then the issue is can you save at least some money by trading him.

    Now, because he has a no-trade, he has all the leverage. The only leverage the Yankees have, if they wanted to use it, is PT.

    Would that reduce his value? Sure, but it doesn’t eliminate it.

    The reason I say that he is self-satisfied is that he appears unwilling to remake his LH swing over a sustained period and live with the painful adjustment. Instead, it was like: ‘Ok, I will give it a month. Didn’t work. I’m just old, leave me alone.’

  71. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    You don’t bench him and devalue him before you trade him.. you just let him know that’s the plan and he can take it or move over somewhere that he can still be a full time player.

  72. austinmac February 4th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Teixiera is 33. That is too young to acknowledge you are in a permanent decline. I think many of us would have preferred an admission he has declined and a vow to do everything he can to turn it around rather than saying it’s just the way it is.

  73. UnKnown February 4th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    “I think Kaepernick is going to outshine Brady when all is said and done.”

    You’re right, you don’t know much about football at all.

  74. DONNYBROOK February 4th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Yea, TEX admits he’s getting old, (who isn’t other than Ben Button), and says he is gonna try to be very good at what he does best, and we got people trashing him. Of course, this is the Same bunch that hung TEX in effigy numerous times last season.

  75. Shame Spencer February 4th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Chip February 4th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    I’m still not sure what Tex said that was wrong here?

    —————-

    Read what Tex wrote and tell me you could see Jeter saying it.

    It’s one thing to state the obvious and say, ‘hey, we’re all overpaid.’ But it’s quite another to say “well I’m getting older, am a tick behind, oh well, what can you do?” He’s openly stated he’s not trying to go the other way anymore.

  76. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    “Of course, this is the Same bunch that hung TEX in effigy numerous times last season.”

    You say such ridiculous stuff. His platoon stats say it all.

  77. Rich in NJ February 4th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    “You don’t bench him and devalue him before you trade him.. you just let him know that’s the plan and he can take it or move over somewhere that he can still be a full time player.”

    He may call your bluff, so they have to be prepared to do it.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock February 4th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Ravens’ Ray Lewis leaves as a champion
    February 4
    Detroit News

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    “For his final ride, Ray Lewis took the path of John Elway, Jerome Bettis and Michael Strahan.

    He walked off into the sunset as a champion.

    “What better way to go out,” he said, after the Ravens preserved a 34-31 win in Super Bowl XLVII with a goal-line stand in the final two minutes. “The more I think about it, it was my teammates, the way we went out, the things we been through all year.

    “I was tested through this journey (and I tested positive ed.). It was an up-and-down rollercoaster — the injuries — and we stayed together. Honestly, when God is for you, who can be against you?”
    ///

    Maybe Alex should tell everyone that God is for him?

  79. blake February 4th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    If a player in MLB got busted for deer antler extract or whatever the week of the World Series then the actual games would be an afterthought….they’d be talk of forfeit….of suspension etc….In the NFL they talk about Ray Lewis accending to the sky at the 50 yard line after the win….it’s hilarious

  80. randy l. February 4th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    “Teixiera is 33. That is too young to acknowledge you are in a permanent decline.”

    austinmac-

    i think if teixeira thinks he’s getting old he will.

    33 is ridiculously young to be thinking that age is the reason that he’s in a decline. if jeter thought that he was old two years ago he’d never have had the year he had last year.

    i think teixeira is a fat cat in his mind who has it made in the shade. he has some inner drive, but it only seems to go so far. i’d like to see what would happen if some one on the yankees got in his face about accepting early aging.

    of course jeter is too classy and girardi isn’t the type to do that. there’s almost an acceptance on the yankees that if he doesn’t have it in him on his own he’s not going to get it from someone else getting on him.

    teixeira accomplished a lot while he was young, and he cares about fitness and health. i applaud him for his baseball success, but when the yankees signed him they just didn’t know that he was going to quit on baseball so early.

    because he really has. he’s just coasting into retirement at this point.

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