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Pinch hitting: Sean O’Leary

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 05, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Today’s Pinch Hitter, Sean O’Leary, is familiar with blogging. Along with a group of friends, he formerly designed, developed and managed 161st and River, a blog and discussion forum dedicated to the Yankees. As he got older, Sean settled in as a web developer in upstate New York and the blog faded away, but he’s now beta testing a relaunched version at http://www.161andriver.com/

For his post, Sean returned to blogging to voice his disagreement with a trend in roster construction.

Let me first preface this post by saying that I am not a sabermatrician. I understand the value of sabermetrics, but in my mind, the game isn’t played on paper, so analysis is just as good if it comes from gut feelings, general observation, and basic, more tangible statistics.

That being said, has anyone else noticed an increasing comfort among managers with the concept of platoon players? In particular, our very own (formerly) Crew Cut Joe? Like sabermetrics, I do understand the value of platoon players in certain situations, but recently, it seems that every player over the age of 32 needs a platoon partner. The problem got so crazy this offseason that fans were upset, if not downright livid, that Nate Scheirholtz (NATE SHIERHOLTZ!) signed with the Cubs, thus spurning the Yankees. Not to mention the reaction by some that Cashman was just sitting on his hands because he “let” Scott Hairston sign with those same Cubs on a two-year deal (one year too long in the minds of most rational fans).

I’m not sure he so much “let” the Cubs have him, but rather prayed that they would take him so he could stop hearing the rumors of Hairston in pinstripes.

Yes, the Yankees starting outfield is all left-handed, full of questions, and likely to get more praise for defensive speed than offensive production (on that note – whatever happened to Granderson’s speed on the bases? Did K-Long work that out of him, too? I guess that’s a post for another day.), but maybe it’s not such a bad thing that they will get to see more left-handed pitchers than they would if say, Justin Upton were in town.

If I remember correctly, there was a consistent uproar about Girardi’s matchup decisions and questionable lineups (especially in August and September) that left Ichiro on the bench during a hot streak last season. Those decisions, likely reached due to something deep in the bowels of the Girardi Binder Archives, seemed ridiculous at the time, but when the offseason hits, fans forget that more options can be a bad thing. Bottom line, if you let them see more lefties, there’s a chance they could get more comfortable against them, allowing them to return to previous success (that they’ve all had against lefties at points in their careers).

My solution to this problem? Look for a more defensive bench player that brings some speed to the table, as well. Let’s face it, the Yankees are slow right now — faster than last year (I say this only because Gardner will be back for a whole season, hopefully) — but still slow enough on the bases that a professional pinch runner would be a huge late-game benefit. We also can all acknowledge that the defense is a little suspect.

All of this brought me to the idea that the Yankees should look to trade for someone like Peter Bourjos. His offensive stats won’t blow anyone out of the water, but his defense and speed are there, plus – don’t get too excited – he’s a righty outfielder. I’m not saying this is the guy for the Yankees to go after, especially with the Angels seeming resolute on Vernon Wells collecting splinters all summer, but this is the type of player Yankees fans should be hoping for: Young, speedy, solid defense, and offense just bad enough to keep Girardi out of his own way.

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224 Responses to “Pinch hitting: Sean O’Leary”

  1. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    Alex Rodriguez taking a page from the Jose Canseco playbook: MLB (and the Yankees) is out to get me and fabricating evidence about me to get me out of the game.

  2. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 9:21 am

    I’m sure the Yankees got the pseudo doctor to make up a bunch of notes with AROD’s name on it. Yeah, right. Good luck with that defense.

  3. pat February 5th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    I’m always skeptical of people without names.

  4. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:17 am
    Alex Rodriguez taking a page from the Jose Canseco playbook: MLB (and the Yankees) is out to get me and fabricating evidence about me to get me out of the game.

    Where/when did Alex say anything like that?

  5. pkyankfan69 February 5th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    For Yankee Hotel Foxtrot or any other music lovers,

    Jim James played Jimmy Fallon last night with a song off his new album:

    http://www.latenightwithjimmyf.....fe/n32348/

    The man is an absolute genius.

  6. Against All Odds February 5th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    @ JS

    Source: Yankees’ Alex Rodriguez thinks his team and Major League Baseball are out to get him after recent PED scandal:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1255482

  7. Against All Odds February 5th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    i don’t think A-rod is dumb enough to actually say that is he

  8. pkyankfan69 February 5th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 9:30 am
    Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:17 am
    Alex Rodriguez taking a page from the Jose Canseco playbook: MLB (and the Yankees) is out to get me and fabricating evidence about me to get me out of the game.

    Where/when did Alex say anything like that?
    ——————————————–
    Assuming he is referring to this:

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....is-career/

  9. tomingeorgia February 5th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    “Source” has always been reliable in the past, hasn’t he?

  10. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Yup, he’s using the same nonsense that juicers like Lance Armstrong, Ryan Braun and Roger Clemens have…he’s so full of crap.

    I hope that he gets slammed with 50.

  11. Tackelberry February 5th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Where/when did Alex say anything like that?

    ________________________________

    I think its the same friend who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. Guess it’s pretty serious.

  12. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    It’s fair to be skeptical of unnamed sources; however having seen the way Alex has carried himself through the years, does anyone doubt that he’s the kind of person who would make such a claim?

    And I could see where the paranoia would come from, after all MLB did a poor job of protecting his name as one of the guys who failed the exploratory tests in 2009…

  13. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Let’s be real people, Arod has one of the best PR reps in show business. That NYDN story is coming from the Yankees, not Alex.

  14. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Guy Oseary is one of the smartest guys in celebrity business management.. no chance in hell he leaked that story to the press. Anyone with two eyes could tell you that would only make Alex look worse, not better. No way that story is coming from his camp… the NYDN is the Yankees mouthpiece.

  15. Duh Innings II February 5th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....v7upyOYnXJ

    Are the Yankees !@#$ing serious with they’re letting Mo shag flyballs before games?

    That’s right, let him do what cost him a full season and put him in position to get hurt again.

    Ridiculous!

    Did Mo say he shags flyballs or he doesn’t come back or is that a clause in his contract or something?

    I tell him flat out NO and if he doesn’t like it, too bad. What’s he gonna do, retire?

  16. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Let’s be real people, Arod has one of the best PR reps in show business. That NYDN story is coming from the Yankees, not Alex.
    ——————-

    If this story had come from Bill Madden I would be inclined to agree with you. But the investigative team that put this together has been out in front on a whole lot of steroid stuff and not a group I would expect to carry the Yankees’ water.

  17. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Shame,

    Alex either needs to admit it or defend himself all the way. This may be his way of telling the league and team he is ready to fight. He has to know if this is proven, his legacy is gone. No Hall of Fame ever. Instead, he will be seen as a pariah with likely the worst user reputation ever.

    I don’t see how that article helps the Yankees. None of this helps with his contract but would only make matters worse between him and the team. If they think that this will make him give up his money or want out, forget it.

  18. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Thanks for the links.

    The problem with “sources” is they can say anything…

    If it were a conspiracy, why would it include names like Gio Gonzalez and Nelson Cruz (and supposedly other players)? Those aren’t exactly guys you would think MLB would be out to get. And wouldn’t you think Alex is smart enough to understand that? He’s going to think MLB is going to throw Gio and Nelson under the bus just to get him?

  19. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Duh Innings II February 5th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports…..v7upyOYnXJ

    Are the Yankees !@#$ing serious with they’re letting Mo shag flyballs before games?

    That’s right, let him do what cost him a full season and put him in position to get hurt again.

    Ridiculous!

    Did Mo say he shags flyballs or he doesn’t come back or is that a clause in his contract or something?

    I tell him flat out NO and if he doesn’t like it, too bad. What’s he gonna do, retire?
    —————————

    If he had slipped while taking laps in the OF and torn up his knee (as Juan Rivera did) would you say that he shouldn’t be allowed to take his laps anymore?

    He slipped, it could have just as easily happened while he was stretching or running, it just so happened that he was shagging fly balls.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    This is becoming beyond ugly.

    Shame, I think the DN does operate as a PR extension for some of these teams. I spent some time with a former Sports Editor there, whose comments frankly stunned me regarding coverage of a NYC team (in this case, it was not the Yankees).

  21. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Chip – It that story was investigative at all, that’d be one thing… but it’s a rehashing of facts already dispersed with a sexy headline.

    People that are inclined to believe it’s true, will. But getting someone in Alex’s inner circle to spill something like that… for what purpose?

  22. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    JAP – I know there are a lot of teams in the mix right now, but I definitely know Oseary’s work. No way he’d let someone leak that out of Alex’s camp. They’re on lock down right now. The story about Alex not planning to retire or approve a trade is the only one his camp has had a hand in. I’d almost guarantee it.

  23. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    If he had slipped while taking laps in the OF and torn up his knee (as Juan Rivera did) would you say that he shouldn’t be allowed to take his laps anymore?

    He slipped, it could have just as easily happened while he was stretching or running, it just so happened that he was shagging fly balls.

    I don’t think simple running is as dangerous as chasing fly balls.

    But it’s Mariano so I guess you have to let him do what he wants.

  24. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    I don’t see how that article helps the Yankees. None of this helps with his contract but would only make matters worse between him and the team. If they think that this will make him give up his money or want out, forget it.
    —————————————————

    Anything that makes Arod and the Yankee relationship seemed more strained does help the Yankees. They trying to pressure him out. It’s a poker game at this point.

    But there’s just no way that story is from Arod’s camp. That has Yankees written all over it. There’s absolutely no news in that article. It’s regurgitated news with an anonymous source commenting on Arod’s insecurities… it’s a reason to keep the story in the papers, with no new developments at the moment.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Shame,

    I don’t pretend to know what’s going down here, but this whole thing felt orchestrated from “go”.

    As a famous villain once said: “it smells to heaven.”

  26. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    We’ll see if Alex’ side denies it.

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    This – and meanwhile, Ray Lewis is taking bows like some admired statesman winding down a distinguished career.

  28. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    We’ll see if Alex’ side denies it.

    —————————-

    He won’t.. and shouldn’t. That gives more credence to the reports and allows them to be printed again with his comment (that people are already not inclined to believe).

    I am fascinated by celebrity/media relationships.

  29. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Chip – It that story was investigative at all, that’d be one thing… but it’s a rehashing of facts already dispersed with a sexy headline.

    People that are inclined to believe it’s true, will. But getting someone in Alex’s inner circle to spill something like that… for what purpose?
    —————————————-

    Why does it have to be someone in Alex’s “inner circle”? Players are starting to head to Tampa, isn’t it just as likely that someone called Alex and said “dude, what the f*ck?” and this is what Alex told him and he told it to the News?

  30. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    This – and meanwhile, Ray Lewis is taking bows like some admired statesman winding down a distinguished career.
    ———————–

    I didn’t watch the pre-game show for the Super Bowl but apparently Ray Lewis actually said that if he had been involved in the double murder then God would not have allowed him to be as successful as he’s been in his career. Thus we should all be smart enough to know he wasn’t involved….

    That he said it with a straight face is the most impressive part of the argument.

  31. pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Shame

    I don’t think Alex is working wih Oseary anymore. Sitrick and Company is handling his PR now.

  32. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Is Alex going to have a press conference to deny the use? I doubt it. If there was absolutely no truth to his association with this so-called doctor and use, wouldn’t he want to tell the world? Having lawyers and PR people do the denying isn’t convincing to anyone.

    I disagree the Yankees planted the new story in that it does not help them. AROD is not leaving voluntarily without his pay. No one will trade for him. Would you?

    To get out of paying him, they will have to win a lawsuit. This so-called Yankee leak doesn’t help with that. I see it as poor, poor Alex trying to say he is being mistreated by everyone. No one understands him as he was just trying to get and stay healthy.

  33. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Chip February 5th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    If he had slipped while taking laps in the OF and torn up his knee (as Juan Rivera did) would you say that he shouldn’t be allowed to take his laps anymore?

    He slipped, it could have just as easily happened while he was stretching or running, it just so happened that he was shagging fly balls.

    I don’t think simple running is as dangerous as chasing fly balls.

    But it’s Mariano so I guess you have to let him do what he wants.
    —————-

    I doubt he’s sprinting back after a fly ball like Brett Gardner – he jogs a couple of steps and catches a ball if it’s near him, that’s not what I would call high risk behavior.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Either Alex: is dangerously paranoid/in denial; really has something and feels there’s tangible support for his suspicions, or it’s a setup.

    And it’s really a comfort that Randy Levine, of City Hall fame, is likely calling the shots for all things Yankee.

    The truth will out, eventually.

  35. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    If he didn’t make those statements he should deny it, or rather his PR firm should.

  36. pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Players are starting to head to Tampa, isn’t it just as likely that someone called Alex and said “dude, what the f*ck?” and this is what Alex told him and he told it to the News?

    The army of lawyers ad PR people he is holed up with would have wrestled the phone out of his hand.

  37. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Why does it have to be someone in Alex’s “inner circle”? Players are starting to head to Tampa, isn’t it just as likely that someone called Alex and said “dude, what the f*ck?” and this is what Alex told him and he told it to the News?

    ————————

    If you think Alex is that foolish, you’re one of the folks that will believe he feels that way no matter what the evidence might be. That entire story is a rehashing of facts and nothing else aside from a lead off about how Alex is now on some PSTD paranoia…. nothing about this sounds authentic to me.

    The first think Alex would be told to do is not to comment to anyone about this. Not even his grandmother. Especially not his ex-wife..

  38. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Shame

    I don’t think Alex is working wih Oseary anymore. Sitrick and Company is handling his PR now.

    ———————-

    Oseary is his manager, not his PR rep ;)

    I’m all over it pat. If I could have went to the Faculty of Celebrity Studies for college I would have.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Chip February 5th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    This – and meanwhile, Ray Lewis is taking bows like some admired statesman winding down a distinguished career.
    ———————–

    I didn’t watch the pre-game show for the Super Bowl but apparently Ray Lewis actually said that if he had been involved in the double murder then God would not have allowed him to be as successful as he’s been in his career. Thus we should all be smart enough to know he wasn’t involved….

    That he said it with a straight face is the most impressive part of the argument.
    ///

    “God” was on the side of witch burning, too. :D. Like I said, Alex should tell the media that “God” is on his side. That ought to end any in-progress conspiracies and ill will, right?

  40. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    PTSD* dang… good jokes ruined by spelling errors are the worst, no?

  41. pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    I think the Daily News is acting alone on his one.

  42. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    If he didn’t make those statements he should deny it, or rather his PR firm should.

    ——————-

    Sounds simple, but it’s really not. Again, commenting on it makes him look even more insecure and allows more news outlets to republish the original story.

    Alex’s camp is going to be very, very quiet.

  43. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    Players are starting to head to Tampa, isn’t it just as likely that someone called Alex and said “dude, what the f*ck?” and this is what Alex told him and he told it to the News?

    The army of lawyers ad PR people he is holed up with would have wrestled the phone out of his hand.

    I don’t know, Alex is a pretty strong guy, you think some geeky lawyers and PR guys are going to be able to take the phone out of his hand?

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    The army of lawyers ad PR people he is holed up with would have wrestled the phone out of his hand.
    ///

    The alternative is deeply disturbing. Both, actually.

  45. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Mac

    There is no mechanism available to the Yankees that can get them out of this contract short of Alex retiring which he won’t do.

    I think they’ll just release him and eat the contract; but in any case, this report in no way helps the Yankees accomplish that goal. If the idea is to smear Alex; why bother? No one likes Alex anyway and no Yankee fan would be sad to see him go prior to this report.

    However, if the Yankees are behind this leak then this is another step in the Yankees morphing into the Red Sox where they rip their people in the press; have a disinterested owner and a team president who doesn’t know baseball calling the shots.

  46. Chip February 5th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    Players are starting to head to Tampa, isn’t it just as likely that someone called Alex and said “dude, what the f*ck?” and this is what Alex told him and he told it to the News?

    The army of lawyers ad PR people he is holed up with would have wrestled the phone out of his hand.

    I don’t know, Alex is a pretty strong guy, you think some geeky lawyers and PR guys are going to be able to take the phone out of his hand?
    —————

    Plus Alex is on all the steroids so he’s even stronger.

  47. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Chip – I think you’ve got your head in the sand on this one.. this report absolutely helps the Yankees. Every little report about how Arod is crazy and his relationship with both the Yankees and MLB is strained helps the Yankees.

    The Yankees PR team is probably on par with the BP or the NRA’s PR teams, you guys realize that right?

    This is a classic cat and mouse… they know Arod can’t comment on anything being released right now, and they’re going to keep beating him down.

    It’s quite brilliant. I’d play it the same way.

  48. jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Actually, I think it is that simple.

    “Alex thinks this”

    “No, he denies thinking that”

    Saying that he thinks it’s a big MLB conspiracy is not trivial.

  49. yankeefeminista February 5th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I agree that there is no way Alex would comment/make an off the cuff remark like the above, especially one that is so damning of the team he plays for/hopes to continue to play for or of the league he plays in/wants to continue to play in. Everything Alex does is orchestrated. I can’t imagine Alex or his people are the source; the repercussions would be hugely damaging. Ugh. This is really depressing.

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    No one likes Alex anyway and no Yankee fan would be sad to see him go prior to this report.

    ///

    Speak for yourself. The contract is a problem, but I will be sad to see Alex go.

  51. Hassey February 5th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Who cares. Just play ball already

  52. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Yankeefem – he certainly has no hope of currying favor with anyone. In the court of public opinion, Alex has been completely skewered by the media and all its dutiful monkey-see-monkey-do followers.

  53. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    jacksquat February 5th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Actually, I think it is that simple.

    “Alex thinks this”

    “No, he denies thinking that”

    Saying that he thinks it’s a big MLB conspiracy is not trivial.

    ——————-

    Dealing with PR is not the same as dealing with other people in life the way we do. His team is thinking big picture right now. How would it look for him to comment on a one off story about his insecurities? It would make him look more insecure. Big picture, it’s not worth it at all.

  54. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    yankeefeminista February 5th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I agree that there is no way Alex would comment/make an off the cuff remark like the above, especially one that is so damning of the team he plays for/hopes to continue to play for or of the league he plays in/wants to continue to play in. Everything Alex does is orchestrated. I can’t imagine Alex or his people are the source; the repercussions would be hugely damaging. Ugh. This is really depressing.
    ——————————–

    fem gets it. People would be shocked how calculated most public figures are… even when they are trying to pretend they aren’t.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    It’s quite brilliant. I’d play it the same way.
    ///

    We but teach bloody instructions, which, being taught, return to plague the inventor

  56. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    My favorite part is that he doesn’t just say, according to this source, that the Yankees are out to get him.. he says he thinks MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL is out to get him lol.

    Yes, that will help him. :roll:

    This is a guy who loves the game. He doesn’t want to be banned from it all together like Rose. He wouldn’t shoot himself (and any future earnings) in the foot like that.

  57. Against All Odds February 5th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Happy Birthday Hank Aaron

  58. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    Sean – sorry your Pinch Hit comes during the Arod debacle.

    I liked Burjos ever since they brought him up. I am a lover of good defense and a good arm in the outfield. The years (it seems there were at least a few) that the Yankees had weak arms in the outfield made me cringe – and were an absolute delight to the teams facing the Yankees. It used to remind me of a carousel on the bases. What better than for the opposing team to know you have weak outfielders? And since the Angels have basically been treating him like a spare part, I’m sure he’d welcome the opportunity to get in some real playing time.

    I wonder if he’s even been on the Yanks radar.

    I agree with you on the platooning too. It’s really nice to have a solid outfield – though it wasn’t the fault of the Yank that Gardner went down last season. Had that not happened, we would have had a pretty strong outfield.

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    As a result of this story, it is no longer Alex’s legacy I am concerned about.

  60. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Shame,

    My brush with celebrity was sitting in a trial for two months with Sandra Bullock.

  61. Hassey February 5th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Also Roberto Alomar’s birthday – I would have noticed it sooner, but he spit in my eye

  62. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    austinmac,

    She’s a fine actress.

  63. Hassey February 5th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Yes, Sandra Bullock is what I’d call a five tool player

  64. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Some newspaper suggested the other day the Yankees could claim fraud before his last contract in denying steroid use. I said months ago that might have been possible in 2009, but not now. Too late.

    To void the contract, they need new contract violations sufficient to do so. I don’t think PED use does it unless, as I have said before, they can prove that recent use casued his hip problems or, at least contributed to cause it. That would at least give them an argument.

  65. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Sandra(Sandy as the inner circle people call her of which I am not one) is a very smart woman. Her smarts have been, I bet, instrumental in making it in the difficult world of the movies.

  66. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Nothing like a little Shakespeare to start your day ;)

    True story: I once had an English teacher that would only refer to Shakespeare as ‘Wills’ or ‘Shakes’… it was awful.

  67. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Shame,

    My brush with celebrity was sitting in a trial for two months with Sandra Bullock.

    ——————

    No way!!! What was Sandy doing there?

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    fem gets it. People would be shocked how calculated most public figures are… even when they are trying to pretend they aren’t.
    //

    Alex has been known to put his foot in his mouth, but this does seem beyond anything even he could manage. I suppose it’s possible he could have confided this to a friend, who then told somebody, etc. But that also would be entirely too convenient for certain parties….

    I saw the Yankees go to a lot of trouble to try and humiliate Jorge Posada, who never did anything but wear the pinstripes with pride and dignity – unless you consider trying to get another year out of them by talking to the Mets treachery.

    Nothing would surprise me from this group, at this point, I am sorry to say. Having said that, it’ll all come out in the wash…it always does.

  69. pat February 5th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Manny in talks to play in Taiwan? That needs to be a reality show.

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Nothing like a little Shakespeare to start your day ;)

    True story: I once had an English teacher that would only refer to Shakespeare as ‘Wills’ or ‘Shakes’… it was awful.
    ////

    “Wills” knows us better than we know ourselves :D

  71. J. Alfred Prufrock February 5th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    To void the contract, they need new contract violations sufficient to do so. I don’t think PED use does it unless, as I have said before, they can prove that recent use casued his hip problems or, at least contributed to cause it. That would at least give them an argument.
    ///

    Well, then, we’d better step up our development, because no free agent is coming here.

  72. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    is platooning becoming more prevalent? seems to me like it’s used less often now than it was in the 60′s and 70′s.

    and before my time, wasn’t casey stengel the king of the platoon?

    it’s nothing new…

  73. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    austin i tottally agree with you about voiding arod’s contract. they might have had one good shot at it, when he admitted usage the first time, as it could have shown bargaining in bad faith.

    voiding the contract because of usage during the contract doesnt seem it has a chance.

    a lifetime ban from mlb might cause a settlement and retirement, though.

  74. Patrick February 5th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Keith Law’s top 100 prospects are out today.

    19. Gary Sanchez
    35. Mason Williams
    52. Tyler Austin
    57. Slade Heathcott

    Jose Ramirez also made the list of 10 who just missed.

  75. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    so now the word is that dr bosch went to arod’s house every few weeks and injected him with PED’s.

    so over 4 seasons we’re talking about violating the drug policy on what 24 occasions? if it’s twice a month then 48 violations.

    if that’s true, that’s a lifetime ban.

  76. Cashmoney February 5th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Elston howard and Berra? Chad Curtis and Dion James.? Nothing wrong with Platooning , something wrong with playing Andrew Jones when he can’t hit rh or lh. Can you hit is the salient question.

  77. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    austin i tottally agree with you about voiding arod’s contract. they might have had one good shot at it, when he admitted usage the first time, as it could have shown bargaining in bad faith.

    ———————-

    You keep saying this, but it’s completely untrue. The Yankees had NO WAY to void that deal in 2009. None. Not even a little bit. Having all of the evidence come from a test that MLBPA only allowed to be done under the agreement of confidentiality with MLB would have been more than just a bit problematic.

  78. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Patrick February 5th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Keith Law’s top 100 prospects are out today.

    19. Gary Sanchez
    35. Mason Williams
    52. Tyler Austin
    57. Slade Heathcott

    Jose Ramirez also made the list of 10 who just missed.

    ———————

    I really hope we get to see a bit of Austin in spring training. He’s the only one that’s going of that group, correct?

  79. Cashmoney February 5th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    we still talking about Arod?

  80. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Shame,

    She was suing my homebuilder client for a house he built her here.

  81. tucker February 5th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Seriously doubt the Yankees planted that Daily News story. What benefit would they get from planting a story that raises the theory that they are out to get ARod? Makes no sense at all.

    The Yankees very well may want ARod gone, but the last thing they are going to do is suggest such a kooky story to a Daily News reporter.

  82. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    OT –

    austinmac, if you ever have occasion to see the air force band of the west, my niece will be joining the french horn section as soon as she’s finished with her doctorate in May. She’ll be stationed in San Antonio. She was previously a member of the navy band and we thought she was thrilled to get back to civilian life. But she has now re-upped for three more years. She and her husband live in Virginia and will move to San Antonio the day after her graduation. He’ll either teach, continue work on his Ph D, do both, or as my niece says, maybe even be a house husband for a while. She doesn’t care, as long as he’s happy. That’s a little nod to the feminist branch of lohud. :)

    *********

    Love this Native American metaphor:

    One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson
    about a battle that goes on inside people.

    He said, “My son, the battle is between
    two “wolves” inside us all.

    One is Evil.
    It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed,
    arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies,
    false pride, superiority, and ego.

    The other is Good.
    It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

    The grandson thought about it for a minute
    and then asked his grandfather:
    “Which wolf wins?”

    The old Cherokee simply replied,
    “The one you feed.”

  83. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Can we now say Law is smart and knows what he is talking about? That is pretty high ratings for players who have never(with Austin’s slight exception) played above A ball.

  84. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Shame,

    She was suing my homebuilder client for a house he built her here.

    —————-

    Ah.. a good ol’ lawsuit. Shoulda known.

    tucker – It doesn’t just imply the Yankees are out to get him.. it implies MLB is out to get him too, which is more ridiculous. No one would believe either one was out to get Alex. The story doesn’t hurt the Yankees at all, it only helps them.

  85. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Trisha,

    San Antonio is a nice city. Hot as all get out, but a good place to live.

    If you come visit her, let me know and I will buy you lunch. I won’t even try to convince you how much I know about baseball. :)

  86. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Put it in perspective: who does the story hurt more?

    Arod, who is already a joke? Or the Yankees?

    I don’t think there’s a whole lot that can hurt the Yankees brand, short of a Black Sox scandal.

  87. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Ys Guy and cashmoney, why platoon if you don’t have to? Isn’t it better to have regular position players at each position? I would think that’s an unequivocal yes. Would you find it strange to platoon an infield position? I just think it’s unnatural and should be unnecessary – unless it’s necessary as in the case of an emergency, such as what happened with Gardner last season. I have no problem with having utility players to back up positions when players need a rest but I’m not a big fan of platooning.

  88. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    @craigcalcaterra

    The Mets wanted a casino at Citi Field two years ago in order to make A-Rod paranoid. Or something. http://dlvr.it/2vQ3ln
    ————————————————
    LOL.. see what I’m saying??

    Yes, this story is really hurting the Yankees credibility..

  89. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    austin – :lol:

    I definitely intend to come and visit her and I will definitely want to go to a Rangers game so maybe I’ll plan my visit to coincide with the Yanks playing the Rangers. Are you up for a game? That could be a great time!

  90. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    sorry sean, your post is wrong in so many ways.

    just skimming here’s a whopper:
    “If I remember correctly, there was a consistent uproar about Girardi’s matchup decisions and questionable lineups (especially in August and September) that left Ichiro on the bench during a hot streak last season.”

    i do remember correctly, and although people scream every time a favorite player sits, ichiro’s production and ba went up significantly when girardi started resting him regularly. and girardi’s record for getting the most production out of fading players (see damon and matsui in 2009) is one of his strongest traits as a manager.

    also some research you might check in on regarding the use of platoons:
    http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....1914-1948/

    see also bill james: “A history of platooning”

    oh, and bourjos stinks.

    but otherwise, great post!

  91. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Trisha,

    I’m up for a game. For sure.

  92. tucker February 5th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Much more likely that this story did not directly come from either party. If the Yankees really see a way out of his contract, they will not reveal their cards until they are ready to strike. And what evidence is there at this point? Unnamed sources and a few unexplained doctors’ notes that were reported by an alternative weekly. The Yanks are stuck with this contract, and MLB has no failed test or other direct evidence.

    Why would the Yankees want to embarrass one do their own players when they know they are stuck w/him? If the Yanks wanted to bully ARod into early retirement, this is not the way to do it. Only makes ARod dig in his heels to remain throughout his contract.

    Levine may be Machiavellian, but he is not dumb.

  93. Rich in NJ February 5th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    “we still talking about Arod?”

    You’ve seen the National Debt Clock, right, Cash?

    There should be an A-Rod Clock on every NY blog, maybe even outside the stadium, counting down his time left in pinstripes,

    IMO, it has five years left to run, and any shortening of it is wishful thinking.

  94. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Ys Guy – Sean was not incorrect about Girardi sitting Ichiro during a hot streak and lohud complaining.

    “oh, and bourjos stinks.”

    Bourjos stinks? That’s a riot. Bourjos is a fanstastic fielder and he is extremely fast (always good for base stealing). What hurt Bourjos is what hurts most players who are relegated to the bench after injury or due to a crowded outfield. Lack of playing time. I’d love to have Bourjos. I don’t think he’ll ever be a .300 hitter but I’d take .270 with the defense he offers.

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    austin -we’re on!

    :)

    Hopefully we get to see a well-pitched game, with Michael Pineda on the mound for the Yanks, so I can say “See? See? It’s the pitching, austin! It’s all about the pitching!”

    :D

  96. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “we still talking about Arod?”
    =====================
    well, upton’s pretty much off the table…

    …until late june at least….

  97. Cashmoney February 5th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    You’ve seen the National Debt Clock, right, Cash?
    —–
    Rich, as I charge more items on my credit cards in circuit city, I sometimes steps out of store and give a valiant solute to the clock, then i proceed to go back in and buy more stuff.

  98. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    actually bourjos has alot of potential. he is fast and a good fielder. couldnt hit to save his life last year.

    in fact, he really looks like a great platoon candidate!

  99. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Trisha,

    LOL

  100. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    If the Yankees really see a way out of his contract, they will not reveal their cards until they are ready to strike.

    —————————

    Except we already know there is no real way out of his contract at the moment and the best they can do is shame him out of it. Publicly embarrassing him is a great way to get out of the deal.

    The Yanks have everything to gain from these reports. They may not have planted it, but it certainly doesn’t hurt them at all.. especially if their ultimate goal is to be rid of him.

  101. DONNYBROOK February 5th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Yanks had (R) Justin Maxwell and Gave the guy away. He woulda solved the problem sighted by the PH’er above. Maxwell’s 18HR’s in just over 300 AB’s, would obviously be something the Yanks could also use this season in A-Rod’s absence.

  102. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Does anyone think that Ichiro can be an every-day player? I do, maybe with a rest every once in a while.

  103. Rich in NJ February 5th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    “Rich, as I charge more items on my credit cards in circuit city, I sometimes steps out of store and give a valiant solute to the clock, then i proceed to go back in and buy more stuff.”

    I view that as stimulus, Cash, which the economy still needs. Keep it up!

  104. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Team Greedy is with trisha, we prefer players that are good at ALL the baseball activities :twisted:

  105. ron February 5th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    The only way arod does not get the rest of the money owed to him is if he is in jail,and can’t play,or takes a buyout,or retires.
    If he retires,or goes to jail,the yankees owe him nothing.
    Also,if he gets suspended it can only be for 50 games.

    Simply no way to prove ped’s caused his hip problems.
    The yankees could beat on him in hoping he retires,or be nice to him in hoping he retires,or takes a buyout for 50% of the 114 million owed.

    I’d sit him down and say look,take a buyout,and you can play with anybody you wan’t with much less pressure.

  106. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    I actually have high hopes for Puke, er, Kevin Youkilis , this season.

  107. G. Love February 5th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    I think what Sean hit on in his pinch hitter is how we, as Yankee fans, are now conditioned to be constantly looking for the platoon. That wasn’t the case here until Girardi really showed up. Torre would just play his guys and that was that. He would also go with a hot hand or a guy on a streak and respect the streak.

    Girardi has no such respect. He’s transformed the team into L/R platoon splits. When we look at potential free agents we’re always looking at their platoon splits knowing our manager is only going to let the guy play in the position that is statistically advantageous.

    Personally, I hate that stuff. I think most kids learn to hit baseballs against RHP. I don’t think I saw one lefty when I played little league. RH hitters should be able to hold their own against RHP since that’s what they see 60-70% of the time.

    I know there are stats to back up the binder. If there weren’t, the binder wouldn’t exist.

    But as Yankee fans we’re now constantly looking over our shoulders for the next platoon. It’s the way the team operates now.

  108. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 5th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Yanks had (R) Justin Maxwell and Gave the guy away. He woulda solved the problem sighted by the PH’er above. Maxwell’s 18HR’s in just over 300 AB’s, would obviously be something the Yanks could also use this season in A-Rod’s absence.

    *****

    Minute Maid Field is friendly to RH bats – inflated the HR total – - – -

    The Stoneburner Project officially endorses Michael Pineda – - – -

    This is Stoneburner, reporting from Ceti Alpha V in self-exile, with the wax poetic minute – - – -

  109. Cashmoney February 5th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I am more excited about the idea a ‘real’ casino next to Citifield than watching the mets which I am obliged to go with a friend when the dodgers comes to town every year.

    But a real casino in the greatest city in the world, that’s what i am talking about, liberty, justice and equal merriment for all!

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Shame – :lol:

    Mark this day in lohud baseball history!!!

  111. austinmac February 5th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Platooning simply means the team doesn’t think the player is good enough to play every day against certain types of pitching. It would definately be better to have a team that doesn’t require it, but that might call for an allstar at every position, and we can’t have that. I don’t know why it shouldn’t be a goal but have been told that for a long time.

  112. Rich in NJ February 5th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    ” Torre would just play his guys and that was that. He would also go with a hot hand or a guy on a streak and respect the streak.”

    I don’t like Girardi, G. Love, but Torre had much, much better position players (especially once Girardi left). He could count on Bernie, Jeter, Posada, Tino, and O’Neill to carry the load. Then, after O’Neill retired, Matsui took over and was great v. LHP, and Sheffield was really good for a while as well.

    The current lineup has a lot of very limited hitters, and since 2009, even the best ones are declining except for Cano. You can even argue that Granderson and Tex should be platooned (Martin as well, when he was here).

  113. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    You don’t need allstars at all positions, austin. Just good solid players. And again, I don’t think the Yanks had platoon in mind last season when the outfield was going to be Swish, Granderson and Gardner. Fair is fair.

  114. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 5th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Well I will leave the question about platooning to you erudite lohuddites. My great day just got better because it’s snowing here. I am a snow lover, so I am happy from head to toe!

    Great day, all!

    :)

  115. seoleary February 5th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Thanks again to Chad for letting me participate this year.

    As for Ys Guy’s response, it seems like he’s either living up to his username or he just didn’t read the entire post – I do not want Bourjos as an regular player, I specifically mentioned that it would be nice to have a professional pinch runner for late game situations, which is something we don’t have now (especially on days when Nunez starts). The key here being that he can also play defense, which Nunez, our only other fast runner off the bench, can’t.

    As for Ichiro, I truly believe he can play everyday (for the most part – probably 120-130 games this season), and his numbers did go up around the time that he was being benched, which proves my point – he was hitting like the old Ichiro, and you’d never bench the old Ichiro against lefties, would you?

    I think most of you understood my post not as a condemnation of platooning in total, but as an advisement that sometimes more options can lead to over thinking. If you have a bench full of guys that are starter-caliber players, you feel that you have to get them playing time. If you have a bench with role players, you will mostly use them for that role, and plug them into the starting lineup every once in a while to get rest. It just seems to make more sense.

    Thank you to everyone for reading though – I understand the A-Rod story has overshadowed the comments section a bit, but I appreciate the feedback that I’ve been able to find.

    Finally, the new 161andriver.com will be launching tomorrow for beta testing (if the term “beta testing” makes you uneasy, don’t worry, this is mostly to make sure everything looks right across all browsers, and to populate the forums before the official launch. The site is absolutely safe.). I figured I’d invite the LoHud following to check it out and see what you think. Thanks again and Go Yanks.

  116. DONNYBROOK February 5th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    All the Yanks need is 1 picture of A-Rod with this Dr. Quackenbush, anywhere, doing anything. Just 1. George woulda had some low-life Thug in search of said pic, the very second the story broke.

  117. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    i dont agree that any suspension can only be 50 games.

  118. seoleary February 5th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    “G. Love February 5th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    I think what Sean hit on in his pinch hitter is how we, as Yankee fans, are now conditioned to be constantly looking for the platoon.”

    You nailed it – that’s exactly my point.

  119. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    @eboland11

    Ivan Nova has been at complex for about a week. Said he has no doubt “I’m going to be there,” meaning the rotation.

  120. DONNYBROOK February 5th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Plattoning goes all the way back to Stengel. Girardi doesn’t have an Original thought in his head, bone in his body, or stat in his 3-Ring-Binder.

  121. Shame Spencer February 5th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    trisha – Just wait until the next time we disagree.. I’m going to bring up Brady’s neanderthal face and we’ll be back on the same page in a heartbeat!

    I think platoons all depend on the players you have in the clubhouse.

    With a guy like Ichiro, who normally plays like 140 games at minimum, I’d like to cut that down to 120 to keep him fresh. I’d also like to cut Grandy down to 140 per year. It’d be nice to slot a guy in for those 80 games between the two, but that’s not a true platoon.

  122. Ys Guy February 5th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    “As for Ichiro, I truly believe he can play everyday (for the most part – probably 120-130 games this season), and his numbers did go up around the time that he was being benched, which proves my point – he was hitting like the old Ichiro, and you’d never bench the old Ichiro against lefties, would you?”
    =====================================

    ichiro’s obp is 25 points lower vs. LHP than righties, in fact, his obp is below .300 vs. lefties, so assuming you’re going to rest him, that would be the time to do it.

    on top of that your circular argument that , ‘yes ichiro was hitting better because he was being rested, therefore they shouldn’t rest him’ was curious.

    lastly: if someone plays 120 games out of 162, that is not an every day player, that’s a ‘play 3 and sit 1″ player and when do you think you’d prefer to do that?

    …against lefties,of course.

  123. Wave Your Hat February 5th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    If it was good enough for Casey, it’s good enough for me.

  124. Wave Your Hat February 5th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Ichiro better hit at least .325, whether he platoons or not. Which he probably won’t.

  125. Cashmoney February 5th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    I think Bourn is a pretty good example how MLB teams values power over speed. I was dubious about Bourn’s ability to command a contract in the 70-90 mil range, but I never thought the Mets would have the resources or inclination to make a play for him, but it now appears they might actually have a realistic chance.

  126. Cashmoney February 5th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    I used to be conditioned to expect all star in every position, now I settle for best of the worst.

  127. seoleary February 5th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    “ichiro’s obp is 25 points lower vs. LHP than righties, in fact, his obp is below .300 vs. lefties, so assuming you’re going to rest him, that would be the time to do it.”

    I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers, on baseball-reference, which I’m pretty sure is accurate, ichiro’s career OBP is 4 points HIGHER against lefties (.364 vs RHP, .368 vs LHP), and my argument was based on the fact that Ichiro was playing like the old Ichiro, so I used numbers to reflect that.

    It’s my interpretation that Ichiro became disinterested in Seattle, and that made his numbers suffer during his last couple seasons there. He obviously had a resurgence playing in Pinstripes, and my point is: If you’re getting the old Ichiro, take advantage of it, don’t just sit him because of numbers that don’t take the whole situation into account.

  128. seoleary February 5th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I see now that you were looking at his 2012 splits, but again, that proves my point. He was a completely different player after joining the Yankees, and you need to play a guy that’s hitting like that.

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