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Cervelli: “I purchased supplements that I am certain were not prohibited”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 06, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Last night, Yahoo! Sports reported that Francisco Cervelli’s name was among those found in the handwritten records of Biogenesis, the Miami clinic with reported links to performance enhancing drugs. Yahoo! noted that Cervelli’s name was never specifically linked to PEDs, but was simply listed in the clinic’s records.

Around 10:30 last night, Cervelli responded with a statement via Twitter:

Following my foot injury in March 2011, I consulted with a number of experts, including BioGenesis Clinic, for legal ways to aid my rehab and recovery. I purchased supplements that I am certain were not prohibited by Major League Baseball.

Ryan Braun, whose name was also found in the records, also said that he had connection with Anthony Bosch but that the connection had nothing to do with acquiring performance enhancing drugs.

The fact Cervelli and Braun have admitted some connection to the clinic does seem to add some validity to the handwritten records, which might not be good news for Alex Rodriguez. Might not be good news for Jesus Montero either. He’s also reportedly named in the records.

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93 Responses to “Cervelli: “I purchased supplements that I am certain were not prohibited””

  1. Hassey February 6th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Miami is the U.S.’s back-alley, red light district

  2. blake February 6th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Montero just bought the product labeled “anti- Safeco cream”

  3. Mike Ri February 6th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    yeah sure Cervelli

    ….. .like i said before . .These Clinics don’t sell over the counter GNC “supplements”.

  4. jacksquat February 6th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Wow, it’s a good thing we didn’t keep Jesus Roidero after all, eh? :twisted:

  5. Jerkface February 6th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Wow, it’s a good thing we didn’t keep Jesus Roidero after all, eh?

    Its actually the other Jesus Montero, his brother in the Cardinals org.

  6. Hassey February 6th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Esa es la manera en que la cookie se desmorona

  7. blake February 6th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    is it the cardinals Montero?

  8. jacksquat February 6th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Everyone is getting it wrong then?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....inics-list

  9. jacksquat February 6th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....-1.1256495

  10. Jerkface February 6th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Everyone is getting it wrong then?

    Yes, the name Jesus Montero is on a piece of paper. Jesus Montero’s brother is named Jesus Montero :) They may have sympathetic twin powers where one doing PEDs also confers some kind of boost to the other, but that is speculation which I don’t think a newspaper should engage in.

  11. DONNYBROOK February 6th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    I agree with the observation that the players on this Quackenbush’s notes, now admitting to having contact with the clinic, makes A-Rod out to be a liar. And those of us that said Braun was dirty, are having our opinion validated.

  12. Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    They are also proven to have great benefits with fewer downsides if properly administered. The point I was making is that it is stupid and a waste to try to go after PEDs

    ——————————-

    What country are you writing this from? Heck I always thought you were here in the USA with the rest of us. :wink:

    Since when do we let facts get in the way of policy?

    I see tv ads every day telling me to ask my doctor about testosterone. PEDs could be as healthy as steamed wild salmon over spinach & wheat berries. It doesn’t matter.

    What matters is that PEDs are now “bad for baseball” they used to be good but that was when they were in the closet. Now people want a clean game. MLB cares more about Randy’s wallet than it does about your facts.

  13. randy l. February 6th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    “Last winter, Montero planned to spend a month staying at Alex Rodriguez’s house. This is from a Nov. 12, 2011 New York Post article:

    Montero still intends to spend about a month in his native country before heading to Miami in January to work out with Alex Rodriguez and hitting coach Kevin Long at Rodriguez’s home.” espn

    names are flying around. if alex indeed is the bad guy who infects all those around him, do we start looking at kevin long?

    if alex is really that bad, why do the yankees who are close enough to him to know who he is expose their youngest and best players they have to him ?

    seriously, how much longer does cano dodge a PED connection?

    have the yankees become PED enablers by looking the other way?

    what a mess.

  14. Ys Guy February 6th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    gallo specified that it was the ex yankee now seattle mariner montero. i guess he could be wrong but for now, that’s all we’ve got.

    and again, there is no list of what cervelli or montero bought. it is at least possible that they bought non-banned products or treatments.

  15. RadioKev February 6th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    I didn’t even know there was a Brother Jesus Montero. The NYDN frames it as ACES Client Jesus Montero, surely they would have called for a comment?

  16. randy l. February 6th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    y’s guy-

    how many yankees can be involved in PED scandals before management is responsible in some way?

  17. DONNYBROOK February 6th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Spending a month in another country = Being on the lam.

  18. RadioKev February 6th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Also, great point Chad. I didn’t make the connection that Cervelli and Braun may have authenticated A-Rod’s & Co’s connection.

  19. Jerkface February 6th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    I didn’t even know there was a Brother Jesus Montero.

    Jesus Montero & Jesus Montero, whose parents Jesus Montero & Jesus Montero named them after their paternal grandparents Jesus Montero & Jesus Montero, are both catchers, though Jesus Montero is a ways behind Jesus Montero in terms of development. I’m not sure which is actually in the ‘books’, but I don’t think the news does either. I imagine most of the evidence so far is names written down somewhere. Unless it says “Jesus Montero (No, the other one!)” in the books or something.

  20. DONNYBROOK February 6th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    There being 2 Bros bearing the same name, is akin to CM Punk claiming Paul Heyman’s convo with “The Shield” was CGI’d. MLB now has a story line right there with the WWE. Hilarious

  21. Ys Guy February 6th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    ” randy l. February 6th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    y’s guy-

    how many yankees can be involved in PED scandals before management is responsible in some way?”
    ——————————————————————————-
    arod obviously started before he came to the yankees (although they might have had a clue before the opt-out, and we dont know whether montero was cheating with the yankees.

    idk, i suppose the yankees management is as guilty as mlb and as the RS FO and the Oakland FO.

    but in the end, players individually decided to cheat.

  22. RadioKev February 6th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    …and I didn’t know women had the name “Jesus,” unless he has two fathers?

  23. UpState February 6th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    There any dates tied to these notes from BioGenisis ?

    (not girlfriends as dates….just plain old dates)

  24. jacksquat February 6th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Given that the Seattle Jesus Montero has the Arod and Levinson connections, I’m gonna presume (probably safely) that is the Montero that went to the “clinic”.

  25. DONNYBROOK February 6th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    All you gotta do is look at Cervelli’s quote. “I purchased supplements that I am certain were Not prohibited by MLB”. Well, yea, I’m sure he Has purchased supplements that were Not prohibited. Point is, he does Not Specifically refer to the supplements he got from Quackenbush as being Not prohibited.

  26. G. Love February 6th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    I have a hard time believing Cervelli here. I take a lot of supplements. I take Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl L Carnitine, Reservatol, Curcumin, etc. All of it I buy with a click of my mouse from iherb or Swansons. I don’t go to some Dr.’s office who, oh by the way, sells PED’s to all his other patients except me.

    This is a mess. It’s not even the taking of the drugs. At this point I believe it’s still rampant.

    It’s the lying going on here.

    And clearly the drugs didn’t help Cervelli do much.

    As for Braun’s carefully worded response, he has the good lawyers. Everyone else in this mess should just follow their lead.

    And if Montero in involved with this I wonder if the Yankees knew and that motivated them to deal him.

    It does seem all the guys connected to the Yankees on the list, Arod, Melky, Cervelli, Montero have either been shunned by the team or the team has distanced themselves from them.

    Could this explain demoting Cervelli and not wanting him around the team last year for the most part?

    The key to this whole thing, I think, will be Bosch. The sums of money he was making off these guys appear to be large but not massive. And it seems a lot of them had problems paying him on time.

    He’s going to sell his story before this is all said and done. 12k a month from Arod isn’t going to buy any protection from Bosch being bought & paid for after signing some immunity deal to tell the “truth”.

  27. Ys Guy February 6th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    testing seems to have discontinued the rampant steroid usage in mlb. now they seem to have switched over to hgh which was not tested for before this season.

    hopefully the hgh testing this year will scare them off that drug.

    but there will be another. and another.

  28. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 6th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Appel, by the way, is getting quite a foothold with the Mariners. The firm for which he works, ACES — owned by veteran agents Seth and Sam Levinson — represents not only Montero, but also Hector Noesi, the other player obtained in the trade that will (eventually) send Michael Pineda and Jose Campos to the Yankees. ACES also has John Jaso, the catcher obtained earlier this winter from the Rays for Josh Lueke, as well as closer Brandon League and infielder Chone Figgins.

    ******

    Mostly all players the lohud raged about losing or not acquring – Montero, Noesi, and Jaso – - – -

  29. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 6th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Montero, expected to be Seattle’s regular catcher this year, is represented by Seth and Sam Levinson, many of whose clients have been linked to Biogenesis. He has said in the past that Rodriguez is one of his mentors.
    .

    http://seattletimes.com/html/t....._mont.html

  30. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 6th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Sure you want to wait and see about Montero and that it might Jesus R. and not Jesus A. – but when it comes to 189 and seeing how 2013 and 2014 play out – let’s all just damn the torpedos – - – classic – - – - -

  31. DONNYBROOK February 6th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Braun using highly respected Dr’s during his appeal, flies in the face of supposedly “consulting” with this back-alley wannabe.

  32. Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Biogenesis or not, I’d trade back Pineda for Montero in a heartbeat.

    Come on Seattle, he’s halfway up the mound!! And trust me, you don’t want any player that’s been on ARods guest list.

  33. randy l. February 6th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    “but in the end, players individually decided to cheat.”

    if long encourages young yankee players to go work out with alex and alex is indeed a bad guy which the yankees would know, i’d say there is some serious yankee enabling there.

    i do think it’s interesting how if these guys through alex all did use PEDS that they are being put at a distance by the yankees. is this why cano is going to be allowed to walk? was this why montero was traded? melky? cervelli demoted unceremoniously and suddenly?

    if so this doesn’t necessarily mean the yankees are taking the high road. they might have contaminated their young players by looking the other way with alex. maybe hal has simply decided that getting away from this scandal that could implicate yankee management in some shady business is more important than winning this year or next.

    i think with this miami scandal , yankee ownership and management is possibly sweating buckets.
    as i said before, what a mess.
    one thing you can be sure is that the higher ups will be covering their asses.
    guys like cervelli are easily disposable. even long is. he was down there at alex’s house after all.

    who is the yankee starting catcher?
    what a mess.

  34. jacksquat February 6th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Are they going to release 2 or 3 names each day to drag this out as long as possible?

  35. jacksquat February 6th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    LOL, yes Randy, the Yankees intentionally sent Melky, Montero et al to Camp Arod to get their PEDs on. :D

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Get Montero back.

    He hasn’t tested positive, and there’s no proof of anything.

    Even if he did face a suspension, he’d still be able to catch 50 games, which was the original plan, wasn’t it?

  37. Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    The Yankees are pushing Youkilis big time with a half hour intro show on YES. He’s cooking eggs and pressing juice!

    And poor Swisher only got a conference call.

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    I will never cozy up to Youkilis, nor buy his jersey.

    I hope he hits, though. He’s always had a good approach, but his numbers the last three years are not encouraging.

  39. blake February 6th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    If all the Yankee catchers got suspended and they just put a card board cut out back there would it cost the team any wins?

  40. Doreen February 6th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    They didn’t have to sell us on Swisher. He was not signed, he was traded for at low cost, coming off a bad year, and was never a superstar or a recipient of fan revulsion. The Yankees know Yankee fans really have a deep dislike for ex-Red Sox Youkilis, in a way they never had for, say, Johnny Damon.

    They didn’t have the YES Network when Clemens and Boggs came along, or they’d probably have had to do the same thing. ;)

    It was a strange show, though, with an awful lot of focusing on the fact that his brother-in-law is Tom Brady. Who cares????

    I did like what he said about in spite of all that happened last year, the bottom line is he is the player and if he was playing well on the field, a lot of it wouldn’t have happened.

    I guess by showing him in the kitchen cooking they were trying to soften the hard-edged persona a little, make him more accessible?

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    blake, Mike Fast would have to write about it before Cashman would embrace it, but I doubt the PA would go for it.

  42. Doreen February 6th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Did Granderson get a big intro? I don’t recall. I was going to say they only seem to do the big press conference stuff with Free Agent signings, but then I couldn’t remember if they did it with Granderson.

  43. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    “If all the Yankee catchers got suspended and they just put a card board cut out back there would it cost the team any wins?”

    Girardi could make a comeback…

    Or they could rush a prospect. Sometimes it pays off.

  44. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Doreen – One of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen. That entire show had me scratching my head.

    randy – Are you saying the Yankees are complacent or that they’re encouraging player to use PEDs? I get the vibe they’re a complacent party… which can be construed as encouragement I suppose.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    I’m not actually one of those Yankee fans who despises Youkilis. The players I hated most there were Papelbon and Varitek. Big Papi I grew to really hate too, because of his hubris and self-promotion.

    Youkilis is not some big signing. He’s a guy whose numbers have been awful for three years, who’s been hurt a lot, and who they signed to fill a hole; instead, they could have just let Adams have the job to grow into. I would have much preferred the latter.

  46. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    “And if Montero in involved with this I wonder if the Yankees knew and that motivated them to deal him.”

    It doesn’t matter why they chose to deal him, it’s what they got back.

    But that’s a slippery slope. If they care uncorroborated info about this stuff, why sign Hafner? It’s ok if a player used to use?

  47. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    I’ll take any RS player who is still young and good, or even old and good, if cheap.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    Oh, and I forgot: I loathed big Josh.

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Rich, I’d be much more interested if we said David Adams is our 3B this season.

  50. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    “Rich, I’d be much more interested if we said David Adams is our 3B this season.”

    I wish they’d at least have let him compete for it…..

  51. pat February 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    “He’s cooking eggs and pressing juice”

    Tex approves.

  52. Doreen February 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Shame -

    Absolutely head-scratching. A little awkward. But it made sense to focus on him. Just don’t know if they really needed 30 minutes to do it. Would a 10 minute segment on Yankee Magazine with Nancy Newman have sufficed? ;)

    Anyway, last year it was Cano, right? A two-parter?

  53. Doreen February 6th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    pat -

    I thought of Tex as well!

    Mr. Juicee. Would irony fit here if Tex’s name surfaced?

  54. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    I heard Cashman on the radio a couple of days ago and he really thinks this team is as good as last years….I hope he’s right but their recent run of lemons becoming lemonade may have given them a false sense of security.

    ZIPS had the Yanks as a 95 win team going into the season last year…..they have them at 87 or 88 wins this year….

  55. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Pruf

    I don’t know if it was mentioned (or if you saw it), but Axisa speculates that he can see Utley being a Yankee by next season. Who knows, right? But I understand his reasoning given the way they have made decisions.

    Now, maybe at some point in the not too distant future, they actually will give kids a shot, but it’s not their first choice right now.

    Unfortunately, Adams doesn’t bat LH because that might have enabled him to force his way in.

  56. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    If Tex is using PEDs then man he’s using all the wrong ones

  57. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Tex could be using brain PEDs. He appears to be a good businessman, cashing in at the right time in his career. ;)

  58. Mike Ri February 6th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    If Tex is using PEDs then man he?s using all the wrong ones

    ———————
    LOL LOL LOL

  59. yankeefeminista February 6th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Or Teix stopped using, thus the self-pronouncements about his trending downward.

    Speaking of LHB, too bad Corban, a lefty, can’t field very well. We unfortunately have too many AAA guys who are one-dimensional. Either they can hit or they can field but not both. That’s what makes the younger elite kids so intriguing; they actually may be productive on both sides of the ball.

  60. Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    I guess by showing him in the kitchen cooking they were trying to soften the hard-edged persona a little, make him more accessible?

    —————————–

    I thought he came off as likable. He didn’t look as chunky as usual. Maybe it was the black outfit. Brady’s sister sounded like a ditz.

    When’s the last time the Yanks had a Jewish player? Ron Blomberg? Ron Davis?

    When I went to Fenway I noticed they had a kosher hot dog vending machine which I thought was funny. I dont think they’ll need that in the Bronx though. :smile:

  61. Yanksgal07 February 6th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    I remember when the 2008 All Star Game was at the Stadium I read where Youk thought it would be great to have his name in the Roll Call because he enjoyed the way the Bleacher Creatures did that with the Yankees. Of course, he said, I know they will never give a shout out to a Red Sox player. They didn’t…only called out the Yankee players which were Derek and Alex. I guess now he will get his wish …a roll call by the Bleacher Creatures. I’m wondering how the Creatures are going to feel about that..LOL. I am not a fan of Youk as he was at the top of my most despised Sox players but if he has the pinstripes on I’ll have to cheer for him to get the hits to help the team. I won’t be wearing any Youk Yankee gear tho’.

    Can’t wait for the season to start because I don’t really think it’s a doom and gloom as many are touting. I guess we will just have to wait and see but I intend to enjoy each game during the season and hope that it results in Championship #28. I think if the pitching staff stays healthy things can lead to that result.

    Go Yankees 2013 !!

  62. ac1 February 6th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    ZIPS had the Yanks as a 95 win team going into the season last year…..they have them at 87 or 88 wins this year….
    ___

    I think the AL East are going to beat up on each other all year and it may only take 88 wins to make the playoffs. Yankees last 3 games are against the Astros. So that should make people feel good headed to the last week.

  63. ac1 February 6th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    I could see the Yankees going for Utley when Cano leaves for LA…. I would rather see CoJo and Adams get their shot, but like you said that isnt the Yankees first instinct..

  64. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    “I think the AL East are going to beat up on each other all year and it may only take 88 wins to make the playoffs.”

    88 might grab a WC where you can play one game and go home….I don’t think there is any way 88 wins the East….it never does

  65. ac1 February 6th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    88 might grab a WC where you can play one game and go home….I don’t think there is any way 88 wins the East….it never does
    ___

    I meant at least to get to the WC game.
    Im sure 88 wont win the east, but the yankees have won 88 before and won the world series. (2000 i think)

  66. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Not sure how to feel about Tex.. he was on a team with a lot of known juicers in Texas…

    But this is why I’m committed to not caring about PEDs anymore.. There is no one that isn’t suspect.

  67. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Are Josh Johnson, Dickey, Morrow, and Romero going to pitch up to their career ceilings? If so, look at. But that’s probably unlikely. I do like Toronto’s offense though.

  68. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    the 2000 yankees were very lucky to make the playoffs and win the division that year…..87 wins usually gets you an early vacation.

  69. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    “But this is why I’m committed to not caring about PEDs anymore.. There is no one that isn’t suspect.”

    I think Chris Stewart is likely clean

  70. ac1 February 6th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Toronto is basically last years Marlins plus Dickey.

    They SHOULD be much better but no team that looks that good ever performs to that standard (2012 Angels) (1/2 2012 Dodgers).

  71. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    “But this is why I’m committed to not caring about PEDs anymore.. There is no one that isn’t suspect.”

    My thoughts exactly.

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock February 6th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Pruf

    I don’t know if it was mentioned (or if you saw it), but Axisa speculates that he can see Utley being a Yankee by next season. Who knows, right? But I understand his reasoning given the way they have made decisions.

    Now, maybe at some point in the not too distant future, they actually will give kids a shot, but it’s not their first choice right now.

    Unfortunately, Adams doesn’t bat LH because that might have enabled him to force his way in.
    ////

    I didn’t see it, no. Chase Utley on bad knees. Wow, something to look forward to, I see.

    Adams kills LHP but he’s smart taking RHP the other way. He is a guy who nearly always has a professional AB. So tired of their ultra conservatism.

  73. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    I think this team can win 90 games… but I dunno how many the Rays, Jays, and O’s can win. (I really don’t see Boston being a contender at all this season)

    Is trisha doing another pool this year? My phantom limb is telling me to guess 93 ;)

  74. ac1 February 6th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Adams kills LHP but he’s smart taking RHP the other way. He is a guy who nearly always has a professional AB. So tired of their ultra conservatism.
    ___

    Adams should have been given his chance to be the starting 3B this year (Maybe if Youk ends up on the DL they will give him a shot).

    I like Adams upside for 3B or 2B. Time to see what some of these kids have.

  75. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    I think this team has a bigger upside/downside range of wins than in any recent season (viewed from this point in time).

    Something like 85 to 93, imo.

  76. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I wanna care.. believe me.. I did for a very long time. I would rage about the testing program, about the union, etc.

    But there is not one player you couldn’t create suspicion around at this point. Look at guys like Mo and Jeter… those are two guys you could build PED narratives around pretty easily. And those are also two guys, maybe the only two guys, that it would physically make me sick to find evidence of usage. But being pragmatic.. I know that it isn’t impossible that they’ve used some form of PEDs.. and if there’s no ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ for those two, there isn’t for anyone in my book.

  77. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    the 2000 yankees were very lucky to make the playoffs and win the division that year…..87 wins usually gets you an early vacation.

    ———————-

    The good thing (I guess?) is that there isn’t any team in the AL East that scares me.. they’re all pretty suspect for different reasons. I think this will be a tight race to the end. Things will be wide open for a while.

  78. AAA February 6th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    the 2000 yankees were very lucky to make the playoffs and win the division that year…..87 wins usually gets you an early vacation.

    =================================

    They really weren’t lucky at all. There AL East lead was never threatened. Nobody within 5 games of them in the AILC from 9/1 to the day they clinched. They were fortunate the AL East sucked that year, but the 87 wins was more about them taking their foot off the gas than anything else.

  79. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    @HeathcottSlade

    I mean I’m really trying to get to where I’m going! #100%365

  80. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    I wouldn’t think any less of Jeter or Mo in the unlikely event that they used something, but nothing else would knock the baseball world on its butt and maybe, just maybe, take a more realistic view of this stuff, and realize, enjoy the game…or not. It is, what it is.

  81. AAA February 6th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    88 might grab a WC where you can play one game and go home….I don’t think there is any way 88 wins the East….it never does

    ===============================

    Huge advantage for AL West teams in terms of WC chase. Those 18 with Houston is an opportunity only those 4 teams have. Think the Angels, Ranger and A’s will all be pretty good again.

  82. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    “They really weren’t lucky at all. There AL East lead was never threatened.”

    sure they were….they were lucky nobody else was any good that year….

  83. blake February 6th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Geoff Baker ?@gbakermariners
    Jesus Montero told me he has “no idea” how his name got in documents from South Florida clinic. Says never a client, never bought anything

  84. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Guilty until proven innocent.

  85. austinmac February 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    If a team doesn’t win 90 games, I don’t think they can remotely complain about not getting into the playoffs. In my opinion, many things have to go right, particularly on the injury front, for us to win 90.

  86. Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    “But this is why I’m committed to not caring about PEDs anymore.. There is no one that isn’t suspect.”

    —————————————-

    Every player is suspect?

    Is there anybody in here that believes that PED’s do nothing to actually enhance performance AND that everybody is doing them? Because that wouldn’t make much sense.

  87. austinmac February 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Rich,

    I have fought long and hard on the innocent until proven guilty front here. Around here, being found not guilty doesn’t mean anything.

  88. Mike in Harrisburg February 6th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    I agree with Rich. The older the core players on this team get the wilder the possible variance in wins.

  89. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    austinmac

    Too true.

  90. Shame Spencer February 6th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    “But this is why I’m committed to not caring about PEDs anymore.. There is no one that isn’t suspect.”

    —————————————-

    Every player is suspect?

    Is there anybody in here that believes that PED’s do nothing to actually enhance performance AND that everybody is doing them? Because that wouldn’t make much sense.

    ——————–

    I didn’t say everyone was doing them.. I said every player is suspect.

    I agree with the general consensus that PEDs don’t make you a better baseball player but do make you a better athlete.

  91. Bronx Jeers February 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    I agree with the general consensus that PEDs don’t make you a better baseball player but do make you a better athlete.

    ———

    I think the players of this generation are the best athletes the game has seen.

    Or I should say they have the most athletic bodies. That’s probably more accurate.

  92. Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Shame

    I’m agreeing with you a lot today.

    We need more data.

  93. Duh Innings II February 6th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Rich in NJ February 6th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Shame

    I’m agreeing with you a lot today.

    We need more data.

    ——————————

    Yeah cuz someone’s out to get one of the Yankees’ FOUR candidates for the starting catcher job pssssshhhhhhh.

    Cervelli took PEDs and there’s no reason for anyone to go after him whatsoever.

    At least he’s Exhibit A why PEDs don’t always help you get an advantage as he couldn’t even win the Yankees backup catcher job last year and got beat out for it by a guy who hit exactly one homerun and drove in a dozen runs (Stewart.) Wait…that’s one more homerun Cervelli would’ve hit last year and will hit this year LOL.

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