Thursday notes and links: Jeter, Pineda, Rodriguez
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 07, 2013 
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Everybody getting ready for some snow? Before the storm, here are a few notes from another quiet day. Spring training can’t get here fast enough.
• Incredibly entertaining read from Scott Cacciola, who wrote about the daily pursuit of Derek Jeter’s autograph outside of the minor league complex in Tampa. No breaking news in the story, but highly recommended just the same.
• Looking for actual news? It was pretty light today, though Larry Rothschild did tell Erik Boland that Michael Pineda is making progress and could be on a full mound next week.
• Does Russ Canzler count as an ex-Yankee? Whether he does or doesn’t, Jordan Bastian did a nice job telling the story of Canzler’s offseason, including the fact that Canzler actually got to know Travis Hafner, the player who ultimately took his spot on the Yankees roster. “He was really nice to me, really nice to the younger guys,” Canzler said. “He was kind of that calm presence that made us all feel comfortable and helped us enjoy our time.”
• Shocking: Forbes says that Alex Rodriguez is one of the 10 most disliked athletes in America.
• A minor move for a familiar name: Doug Bernier, who played a utility role for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre three of the past four years, has signed a minor league deal with the Twins. Very good defensive player.
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yeah, i kinda though jeter’s people brought it on themselves when they put it out that they were ‘unpleased’ or insulted or whatever it was they said by the yankees $15M offer.
cash sent a shot right across his bow that was impolitic, but got the message across.
but he would not have done that had jeter not started it.
i dont think any of that is going to happen this time.
jeter will opt out and the yankees will announce an agreement without any public chat this time i believe.’
as i said before , they should come up with some agreement on an ongoing mutual option type thing that will put the contract situation to bed up to jeter’s retirement.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/C.....#038;rel=0
Go, Andy!
That article is not flattering to Derek.
Jerk owning Stoneburner in the last thread, I love it
” pat February 7th, 2013 at 9:50 pm
That article is not flattering to Derek.”
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it was flattering to tyler austin and his mom, though!
I was just going to say that. I don’t think her threat applies to Jeter though, I mean, be reasonable!
Tyler Austin’s attitude is commendable. But once he starts performing at the show and do really well, his free time won’t be like it is now. Call it an inverse proportion law of becoming a famous ballplayer in NYC.
Just like that, after 10 autographs, it was over.
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Just 10??
http://www.youtube.com/embed/Z.....#038;rel=0
Here u go, my friends!
i just think it’s kinda stupid that people stand in line like that to get dj’s autograph.
i’m not calling the people stupid, but it just seems too intrusive to me.
for one thing, derek knows that alot of them intend to sell the items for profit.
i think the whole idea of autographs is stupid to me.
they’re free to stand there all day just because they know it’s a place where he passes.
but he’s not obliged to spend his offtime signing things.
Ok, I wish I could drive like Gilles Villeneuve. I am trying. Keep on believing!
i think the whole idea of autographs is stupid to me.
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I agree. I never much liked autographs. I do have a few, but I always thought a handshake was better than some silly easily forged signature. If I get an autograph I’d prefer it include a personal message. Got a funny carl crawford one that says ‘Have a nice fries!’ (its on the back of a checkers free fries coupon).
“he doesn’t want to hear about your personal life”
that just says it all right there doesn’t it?
Jerkface, Rico Carty dished me off.
joe nameth dissed me. i was like 13.
maybe thats the REAL reason….
its all joe willie’s fault…..
That reminds me of a story that an old modern poetry prof once told. He said Dylan Thomas would never sign autographs when making appearances for his books.
Supposedly, some women pleaded with him for an autographed copy, and he repeatedly refused. She wouldn’t stop asking. He finally said, ok, give me the book, and wrote “F… Y… , Dylan Thomas”
It may be bull, who knows?
Rich, she could have simply bought him a bottle of scotch.
Cash
Thomas was pretty easy, huh?
In Vino et Autograph is my thinking, Thomas did frequent White Horse Tavern quite a bit.
If I ever get to meet Jeter, possible but not probable, I would ask if he wants my autograph.
Cash, I hear you’re a big Auben fan.
I recently heard a second story that Jeter made an appearance at someone’s workplace (a very large investment bank), and the person said that Jeter was incredibly personable, talked to people individually, and made you feel like he was truly interested in what you had to say.
I have Bobby Orr’s auto! The rest of ‘em can, go away.
Hi, Rich, JAP says hi!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/8.....#038;rel=0
Rich, there is little doubt in me that Jeter is smooth as silk when it comes interpersonal skills. He is pretty much the George Clooney of baseball for me. How sincere, I don’t know nor do I care. I think he has his inner circles of people where he speak frankly but so does most of us.
Players should sign for kids. I don’t get adults standing in line for hours for an autograph.
you mean W.H.Auden, Mr. Mills?
“He is pretty much the George Clooney of baseball for me”
Oh, and since you mentioned it, that reminds me, this was a women, and she said he was better looking in person.
Sorry, Cash, I, of course, meant, Auden!
Nick, Steve McQueen sucked; Gilles Villeneuve was the real raw deal.
Rich, a winning personality and good looks goes a long way, can’t hurt if it’s the opposite sex. I am gonna say she was impressed?
“I recently heard a second story that Jeter made an appearance at someone’s workplace (a very large investment bank), and the person said that Jeter was incredibly personable, talked to people individually, and made you feel like he was truly interested in what you had to say.”
Sounds like Gretzky. I met him a couple of times, and he was extremely personable, and very genuine and focused on whomever he was speaking to.
I think Jeet like Gretzky is really that way. It’s not an act.
If I’m Jeter, the lesson I would learn from Gretsky is that if he ever has kids, have a son.
(j/k)
Rich and Fem, i am hearing whispers of a big storm coming this way, I hope both of you are in safekeeping , for that matter, to all that’s out there.
Thanks, Cash, you too. Yeah, it sounds like it’s going to suck.
I used to wait around after games back in the 80′s. I chased Mattingly’s car up 157th st and caught him at a light. He rolled down his window and signed. He had a Honda Prelude.
Lemieux’s daughter, Stephanie, is a pretty darn good hockey player and has committed to play for Boston College next college season.
Thanks, Cashmoney. Hoping for the best this time around. I still need to go out in the AM to get more water and batteries (if either are left) before the blizzard hits. Isn’t it supposed to hit the City as well?
Jmills, in my limited grasping and exposures to Poetry I find Auden’s poems to my liking. I knew a few English majors who are on sworn on Pale Fire which I never had the patience to finish.
That’s what I read, It is never that bad where I am, short of Godzilla appearing on Hudson…I think I be okay just like Sandy.
“Lemieux’s daughter, Stephanie, is a pretty darn good hockey player and has committed to play for Boston College next college season.”
yf
My comment didn’t refer to playing sports, but that’s cool about Lemiuex’s daughter.
Cash, good to hear about NYC weather. Pale Fire as in Nabokov?
Rich, didn’t get the gender reference, but no matter.
I wish Yanks would release the ST games TV sched. Boston just released theirs. At least we know that the March 3 game vs. Boston will be televised on NESN.
Be safe and have a good night.
yf
It was just a tongue in cheek comment about her…um…apparent need to attract attention. NTTAWWT
GN
Good Night Fem, yeah Nabokov. It’s one of few books I never been able to finish.
https://twitter.com/espnSteveLevy/status/299674491754250242
CC is freaking skinny. Wow. No more Captain Crunch it seems.
Quite a bit of snow; eating my porridge, then, its out with the Subaru ( she’s more willing than moi
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Very disappointed in how Jeter handles autograph seekers. I would expect him to be more accommodating, given his nice guy image. Good that some reporters have the guts to say the negatives about the Yankees.
Okay since when have we been naming winter storms? Nemo?
Smells fishy.
If A-Rod had done that to fans todays headline would be Rude-Rod.
Does anyone really think Jeter should stay for hours after every work out and sign baseballs for autograph hounds?
You have to consider that if Jeter started doing that…..it would never stop…..the lines would get longer and longer and longer and literally he’d never get to leave.
I bet if the lines were full of kids he’d be more likely to sign longer…..as it is most of them are grown ups out there wanting to sell them on ebay.
Gilles Villeneuve would love this stuff. He’d load his snowmobile up on his Ford Bronco and get lost somewhere. That’s why he was so good driving in the rain F1.
Yes, nothing says “loser” more than grown men queuing up at 3:00 am for an autograph.
“Yes, nothing says “loser” more than grown men queuing up at 3:00 am for an autograph”
which is why Jeter likely blows them off…..he doesn’t seem like the type to enable that behavior….he’s probably thinking…guys go get a life. Notice in the article he asked if there were any kids in the line before he drove off…….
Having met Jeter through Joe Torre some years ago,I found him to be very respectful to both Joe and those he was introduced to.
However I would also say he maintains a distance and a certain coolness toward strangers. Jason Giambi was much more jocular and friendly.
Derek seems to have the personality of a banker waiting to slap down the “no loan” stamp!
Actually he reminds me of Di Maggio but for different reasons.
We did not ask for autographs or anything else.
The punch line to this story was the very obvious distancing themselves from introduction to Joe’s guests of two other players. Guess who?
Easy, Arod and Gary Sheffield, in Arod’s case I see where today he was said to be in the top ten of most disliked athletes in America.
I can’t say I blame Jeter for being distant to people he doesn’t know…..even paranoid…..all it takes it one person to start a rumor about him these days and his image could be gone.
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NYYanksFan February 8th, 2013 at 7:44 am
If A-Rod had done that to fans todays headline would be Rude-Rod.
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I think that you might be onto something there. It often seems like ARod can’t catch a break.
Still, I think that blake hit the nail on the head here. Jeter can’t be expected to stop and sign autographs for everybody that might want one; it would never end if he did. If anything, I think that Jeter’s mistake (if he made one at all) was to stop and sign any of those autographs. If there was no chance that Jeter would stop, then folks probably would not waste their time waiting. At any rate, if the folks waiting around for Jeter don’t value their time, then why should Jeter?
Verlander will be 32 when his free agent years start so he is mostly playing through the contract years that Felix just got. I don’t see them as similar in that regard.
blake February 8th, 2013 at 8:35 am
I can’t say I blame Jeter for being distant to people he doesn’t know…..even paranoid…..all it takes it one person to start a rumor about him these days and his image could be gone.
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I think that it’s even more simple than that. You can’t be close personal friends with everybody. You can be nice, and you can be polite. However, intimacy requires a certain amount of discrimination.
random thoughts on a snow day… I became a Yankees fan in the late 80s… during that time to present NY has had many big boppers But to this day, I can’t think another player who had the absolute raw power that Darryl Strawberry had. It’s hard to quantify that just in terms of numbers. The presence he brought to the plate, the possibility every AB he could have launch a titanic blast that puts a hurler to shame… just a thought.
I’ve seen Jeter in Spring Training and he blew my little cousin off in an empty parking lot lol. What’re ya gonna do.
My only real disappointment was getting blown off by one of the Backstreet Boys (he was never my favorite anyway
).. the other guys were nice though.
Jeet strikes me as the type that will give you the time of day in a setting where he’s scheduled to be somewhere or getting paid for it or something, if that makes sense. But on his time, it’s his time.
As the great percussionist/poet Neil Peart once wrote, I cant pretend a stranger is a long awaited friend.
(that’s for you jmills!)
George gave my cousin an autograph… he approached him just as he sat down to dinner too, so that was really nice of him. I met Luis Sojo at an IHOP one morning and he signed a ball for me lol. It was pretty funny, my dad and uncle didn’t recognize him at all but I was like, “No dad, that’s definitely Sojo!!”
Any athlete is going to get criticism about autograph signing because you simply cannot accommodate everyone. I’ve seen guys sign for 20 minutes and get heckled by some idio after they stop signing.
A thought on King Felix’ contract. He was really bad in September last year and it looked like his velocity was down quite a bit. It wouldn’t be a shocker to me if he had an arm issue or two very soon.
He made 6 starts, lasted 35 1/3 inn., was 0-4, 6.62 ERA, gave up 53 hits, had a 1.78 WHIP.
would not surprise me, a lot mileages on that arm…
With respect to my post about Jeter and some of the subsequent comments.
My comment was not a criticism of him but simply a “take” on his demeanor.
We were Torre’s guests and since we were on the field with the players he thoughtfully asked a few players over to say hello.
We were there to see Joe who is the most gentlemanly fellow one could hope to meet in any environment,always accessible,courteous and professional.
Now who would I prefer to “do lunch”with , Joe Torre,not whom some think may be paranoid or defensive.
Perhaps it’s a generational thing but I prefer socializing with open people not those afraid you’ll ask for something. Which I personally consider an indictment of modern society!
I remember being at spring training one year, and when practice was over Jeter walked right over to the small group of people I was standing with to sign autographs. Of course a herd of about 200 people came running quickly to our spot! Derek signed for everyone! Maybe 150 or 200 people, but he would not sign my baseball. People were yelling and screaming, and he carefully took every baseball or photo, but not mine. I guess he thought I was a dealer, which seemed funny, because there were dozens of dealers there with their binders and hundreds of balls. My nephew didn’t get the autograph, but I got a good story out of it! Oh, and I wear a number 2 jersey at the stadium, go figure.