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Early pitching workload not an indication of philosophical shift

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 15, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This is absolutely a non-story story, but I was curious, and I figure some of you might have been as well.

Although several Yankees pitchers seem ahead of schedule this spring – most of the minor leaguers in big league camp have already faced hitters – general manager Brian Cashman said the change in early pitching workload is strictly because of a schedule shift, not a philosophical change.

“It’s a shorter spring training (before the spring opener) because of the new basic agreement,” Cashman said. “We have a shorter time to get the team ready between now and Opening Day, so the programs are different.”

The Yankees the first spring game is a week from tomorrow, February 23. Last year’s was March 2.

Over the winter, the Yankees made some personnel changes to their minor league pitching instructors, and some minor league pitchers said their offseason instructions from the team included an earlier-than-usual throwing program, but Cashman said the accelerated schedule has nothing to do with the Yankees trying to build arm strength differently. He also said it’s not a reaction to the pitching injuries that popped up in the past year.

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39 Responses to “Early pitching workload not an indication of philosophical shift”

  1. Ys Guy February 15th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    ” jacksquat February 15th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Unless they ship Pineda off to some non-Yankee facility to rehab, reporters are going to see him throwing and there are going to be articles written. There is nothing unusual about the way Pineda is rehabbing.”
    —————————————————
    idk if you guys realize how press access works. the team doesn’t approve every approach of a reporter to a player, the players are expected (not sure if it’s required) to be available at certain times.

    after a bp session in ST, press access to each pitcher that threw is expected.

    and similarly, after a bp session, cashman is going to be asked about pineda’s progress.

    its not the yankees that are shining the spotlight on pineda its the media and the fans. if the yankees ‘hid’ pineda, the papers would be full of ‘what are the yankees trying to hide’ stories.

    its a public buisness and pineda is going to have to rehab in public until the circus leaves for the bronx.

  2. Against All Odds February 15th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2013 at 5:07 pm
    Against, I did and I responded to you, so you must not have seen my response. First of all, thank you for asking! I had started to come down with “something” and basically spent yesterday sleeping, but I am feeling much better today. I’ve been taking a supplement called Moringa and it’s supposed to be an immune system phenom. I’m thinking that’s what did the trick.

    ——————–

    No I didn’t see that. You’re welcome and hopefully you make a speedy recovery. You’ll be back on your feet in no time.

  3. Against All Odds February 15th, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 15th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
    “I was listening to the cbs sports radio this morning and according to some reports neighbors heard them arguing before shots were fired.”

    I read the same thing. I think I’m trying to will that to be nothing more than rumor…

    ————————–

    It could be. The argument just have just been him startled by her entering the home and he yelled. He did shoot her multiple times though

  4. Ys Guy February 15th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    didnt he shoot her through the bathroom door? in a gated community with security?

    doesnt sound good for oscar, they charged him with premeditated murder.

  5. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    Not having real guns up here in general domestically, its hard for me to comment as I have never lived on the other side. I have Spanish swords and an axe somewhere if someone can make it through the mess of books and CDs.

  6. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    A gun must be a big temptation like coal gas ovens in the old days. In England prior to the conversion, it was said everyone had their own execution chamber in their kitchen.

  7. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    One journalist did comment the guy was unfortunately given to sudden rage bursts, a Jekyl and Hyde sort of thing. Very sad story all around.

  8. Ys Guy February 15th, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    the police disclosed that they had been called to his house regarding domestic disputes before, too.

  9. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    YS, that says a lot. Add some blow to the mix, and we’ve got us a bad combination.

  10. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Just looking on MSN how, ” apparently ” all the actors look the same age. ‘Guess it is indeed a disease to get old.

  11. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Moringa?, Trish is on the juice! :)

  12. Ys Guy February 15th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    i hate to say it and im not trying to be political here, but absent the gun, everybody probably walks away to live and love another day.

  13. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Moringa is high in protein, Vits A, B, C and a bunch of minerals, all of which are a good thing when u r tres sick. You don’t want to get better too soon though, for you will miss that shamanic dream.

  14. randy l. February 15th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    “I got chastised yesterday for saying the Yankees will rush Pineda back. I believe they will do this whole heartedly. Last year when you threw that ridiculous spring start where he was told to throw harder & faster, Cone was in the YES booth saying there’s something wrong with his arm. They still kept him out there throwing and who knows what kind of damage was done because of that.”

    g.love-

    this is just no brainer stuff to me. i get it that you can just run a guy out there until he breaks. that’s one way of finding out quickly what you have. the problem is that sometimes you may have avoided the injury if more time was taken.

    i don’t see the downside of more time from the pitchers’s point of view. i get it that from the yankees short view they thought that they needed hughes, joba, wang, and pineda when they rushed each one of them.

    my criticism of the yankees is the spring training time and early season use of pitchers. they seem to just get these wild ideas in their heads and then sell it to gullible and naive sportswriters who pass it on as routine to fans.

    yeah it’s routine for a pitcher to lose velocity some spring trainings and then get it as the season goes along. so that alone isn’t the red flag. i wasn’t that concerned about pineda’s loss of velocity last year as an isolated thing. i didn’t like him being fat and out of shape, trying to “improve” a so called third pitch, and being really counted on to win games while developing the change up i his first season n new york. i thought he should do it in the minors the first few months. had he been on a program to start the season at triple a, things would have been at a slower pace and there may have been no shoulder injury at all.

    on the other hand , maybe the shoulder was a time bomb waiting to go off and the pressure to throw harder from girardi and cashman may have just shown where the weak spot was. my position is that had he been on a more deliberate program, they still would have found the time bomb if it was really there.
    so there was no downside to going slow. my way has the upside that maybe pineda ends up with a healthy shoulder.
    the yankees way of pushing forward when they don’t have to may be resulting in some serious injuries to the very pitchers they spend the most time on feeling they need them.

    it’s pretty disgusting what the yankees do to the pitchers they give the most attention to. as i’ve said before. it’s really the kiss of death.

    hughes has survived the process and i think it’s a testament to him. if i were the yankees , i’d sign him pronto because he was the one guy they couldn’t kill despite their best efforts.

  15. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    You can say it, YS, you are safe here :) I agree, but in another circumstance, a gun might save a family.

  16. Rich in NJ February 15th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    “hughes has survived the process and i think it’s a testament to him. if i were the yankees , i’d sign him pronto because he was the one guy they couldn’t kill despite their best efforts.”

    This made me laugh. I’m not sure why.

  17. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Dustin McGowan is hurt up here again, I was hoping he’d make it.

  18. tomingeorgia February 15th, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    Where I live, 911 equals ten minutes, minimum.

  19. jacksquat February 15th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Looks like Melky has plenty of the roid build left:

    http://www.apimages.com/Search.....*&

  20. MTU February 15th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Mister Tom-

    I answered you again at the end of the last thread.

  21. tomingeorgia February 15th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Thanks, Mister MTU,
    Will do.

  22. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Tom, you have a point. I hope there isn’t ever a time I ever have to depend upon this poor phone.

  23. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Unfortunately that paedophile hockey coach up here only got his sentance increased to five years. Judge said he wasn’t violent in his actions. WTF!!!!!???

  24. randy l. February 15th, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    “Where I live, 911 equals ten minutes, minimum.”

    they’re really slow on cape cod when you dial 411 instead of 911 like i did once.

  25. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    JS, so far, Melky is ok in my books. I guess I have to re-evaluate how I feel about the whole issue.

  26. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Sorry, I didn’t say upon this eve, Yankee fans, so honoured to see you, so glad I get to breathe baseball.

    My acquaintance wants me to go to the Galapagos islands with them. I countered with, N.Y.C.. We are miles apart. I said, ” you can see all the animals you want in the Bronx Zoo. ” :)

    Forget them, I can have a good time in your place alone. Tell me where to stay, just not the Chelsae Hotel like Leonard Cohen.

  27. Nick in SF February 15th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    “there’s a point past where i’m not going to talk about pineda because quite frankly ther are some real dumb asses and toxic people on this blog that aren’t worth talking to.”

    hi randy. :grin:

  28. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Its been twenty years since I’ve been to New York; bought a great big African mask on the street reasonably with a cheque ( the guy was gracious ) that I had to carry back on the plane. Those were the days. I blitzed every stupid gallery I could get my eyes on. This time I want to takee it slow. ( I did get a cassette copy of Morrison’s, ” American Prayer, ” ( before it was out on CD ) in a record store woile I was down there, yipee ).

  29. Rich in NJ February 15th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Morrison’s, ” American Prayer, ”

    I used to occasionally go to this guy’s dorm room in college who would indulge a bit, stand in a corner, and then recite that, acting as if he was the only person in the room.

  30. J. Alfred Prufrock February 15th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    jmills,

    I read a so-called posthumous interview with Morrison recently (for so the claim went). Interesting responses from “Jim”. :D

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock February 15th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    jmills,

    I like the Chelsea :) Wouldn’t want to live there, but it’s a nice place to visit.

  32. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Hi, T.S., if I’m going to come down to, N.Y.C., I need over the top accomodations, of course.

  33. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Sorry, I think, ” accomodation, ” is supposed to have 2, ” ms.” I’m a misnomer non descript.

  34. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 15th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    “there’s a point past where i’m not going to talk about pineda because quite frankly ther are some real dumb asses and toxic people on this blog that aren’t worth talking to.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWJp_3pnzXM

  35. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/c.....#038;rel=0

    Here you go, Yankee fans.

  36. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Hey, Stone, howya’ doin’? I really enjoyed that Van Halen live you sent me, thanks.

  37. jmills February 15th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Stone, hilarious.

  38. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 15th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    jmills February 15th, 2013 at 9:02 pm
    Hey, Stone, howya’ doin’? I really enjoyed that Van Halen live you sent me, thanks.

    *****

    Hi jimills – doing okay – hope all is well – can’t stay around too much – my wife thinks I spend too much time on the blog annoying the comment section – i just say i am defending my Yanks from the doubters and complainers in my own special way – - – -

    jmills – this one is for you:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJKQj9ptXYE

    have a good friday night – - – - -

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