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Clubhouse packed and buzzing

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 17, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It is a full house this morning. Position players have reported to camp, and that has brought a massive amount of media for Derek Jeter to address in about an hours.

As for actual news, Ivan Nova and Joba Chamberlain are facing hitters today.

 
 

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51 Responses to “Clubhouse packed and buzzing”

  1. Bronx Jeers February 17th, 2013 at 9:00 am

    I refuse to get seats behind home plate because I refuse to be behind that netting. Thanks.

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    I have no idea why that graphic shows that. . That’s there during batting practice but comes down for the game.

  2. Chip February 17th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Really hoping that the young players get a chance to make an impression. I hope Mesa or Almonte show enough to win the fourth OF spot and that Romine gets the catching job. If not, Eppley for an outfielder seems very likely given the guys who are out of options around the league.

    From the dumb but true department: Coming off an injury suffered by goofing around and entering his walk year you would think Joba might show some intelligence, but according to Brian Hoch, yesterday he jumped into a laundry cart and implored Boone Logan to push him around. Sooner this guy is gone, happier I will be.

  3. randy l. February 17th, 2013 at 9:03 am

    the yankees have finished on average about three games ahead of the rays the past three years.

    they yankees have spent about 130 million each year more than the rays in salary.

    that means the yankees pay about 43 million more for each additional win .

    that’s assuming that the yankees could compete with the rays on the original 65 million or so in salary.

    the assumption is that the yankees could get the same wins as the rays on that first 65 million.

    you have to think if yankee management is as good they could, right?

    well if they could, it means it takes 65 million to get the first 93 wins, and then 130 million to get the next three.

    maybe it’s just me , but without looking closer, i’d have to say that the problem with the yankees goes deeper than the fact they have a battle between cervelli and stewart for starting catcher.

  4. Chip February 17th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Randy,

    The thing you’re discounting is that the Rays paid for their current success with a decade of awful; stocking up on high picks like Upton, Young, Price, Longoria and Crawford

  5. Chip February 17th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    The major difference between the two is that when the Yankees hav eplayers come up for free agency they keep them. The Rays either let them go (Upton) or deal them off first (Shields)

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 17th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Bronx – thank you!

  7. Bronx Jeers February 17th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    the assumption is that the yankees could get the same wins as the rays on that first 65 million.

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    Huh?

    It would be hard to win 1 game when your team only consists of 3 guys.

  8. randy l. February 17th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    “I refuse to get seats behind home plate because I refuse to be behind that netting.”

    i think because the empty luxury seats behind home plate create such a bad impression of yankee fans and actually takes away from home filed advantage because there’s so little noise coming out of there, that the yankees should take down the netting and make a special fan experience back there.

    have all fans wear appropriate headgear and body armor and have a glove, all of which will be provided by the yankees . a separate reality tv show will spin off of the adventures of these hardy folks.

    the yankees will pick up a few games a year from the home field advantage of this high risk adventure seating. a new adrenaline junkie yankee fan will emerge who will be loud and threatening to opposing players. it will be must tv for those viewing at home.

    i’m telling you, it’s going to be the hottest ticket in sports.

  9. Bronx Jeers February 17th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    There’s such an easy solution to empty seats but the Yankees do their best to make fans at the games feel like they’re at an airport.

  10. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 17th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Well that “experience” wouldn’t help me at all since I’m claustrophobic – part of the reason I can’t sit behind the nettting – so the headgear and body armor would have the same effect.

    Empty luxury seats, empty luxury seats, what to do about those empty luxury seats. There were empty luxury seats during 2009, the year the Yanks won it all. Empty luxury seats are a product of at least:

    1. The recession

    2. The fancy frills at the new Stadium that allow the luxury crowd to sit in glassed-in rooms, eating all kinds of free goodies, with massive television screens providing the “ultimate” in viewing.

    3. The federal government deciding that one of the penalties assessed to all of the NY corporations that were going to go belly up unless the feds bailed them out, was no more corporate purchases of luxury boxes at sporting events. (This might be one of the biggest of all.)

    Unless the Yankees decide to make those seats überaffordable, I fear we will be seeing empty luxury seats for some time to come!

    Alas!

  11. Chip February 17th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    What the Yankees should have done is what Cleveland did…have the enclosed areas behind the plate instead of outside seats. That way you don’t have to worry about fans being in the club areas and not in the camera shots behind the plate.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 17th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    There are also reports that police specifically requested Pistorius’ blood be tested for drugs and steroids, exploring the possibility that he may have experienced “roid rage” – extreme aggression occasioned by large doses of steroids.

    Heck, steroids aren’t harmful at all. I think they’ll be the accepted wave of the future, certainly in baseball!

    I think of the day that Clemens threw the broken bat shard toward Mike Piazza, thinking it was the ball. Fun days for all involved, hey?

  13. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Good to hear about Adams only being about a week behind.

  14. blake February 17th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    @JackCurryYES: Not surprisingly, Phil Hughes won’t throw cutter this season. When I said pitch died slow death last year, he said, “It died a loud death.”

  15. Chip February 17th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Phil isn’t goingbto mess around with anything that could screw him heading into free agency.

  16. Rich in NJ February 17th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Good news. Negotiate with Hughes now.

  17. randy l. February 17th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    “The thing you’re discounting is that the Rays paid for their current success with a decade of awful; stocking up on high picks like Upton, Young, Price, Longoria and Crawford”

    chip-

    no doubt getting price and longoria in 2006 and 2007 helped , but that can’t be the only reason the yankees pay almost 45 million for each win more than the rays get.

    think about it. lets put a market price on upton, price , and longoria. say 60 million.

    now add 60 million to 65 million (rays salary) and that would be 125 million.

    at this point the yankees and rays should be even right factoring in that number one draft pick advantage the rays have.

    there’s still a 70 million dollar amount more the yankee spend.

    so for 70 million more the yankees get three wins more?

    still sounds like the yankees still aren’t very good at spending 70 million more if it only gets them three wins.

  18. Tar February 17th, 2013 at 10:12 am

    According to Fangraphs Phil only threw the cutter 2% of the time last year.

    Not sure what it all means but there is a big negative number by his cutter, that can’t be good. His CB wasn’t a very good pitch for him either. Dropping the cutter is good, IMO he needs to work on making that CB a lot tighter and faster.

  19. Rich in NJ February 17th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    I think the best thing Hughes has going for him is the arm strength built up from being healthy and in the rotation for an entire season.

  20. blake February 17th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    His cutter is a meat ball a large percentage of the time….he used to throw some good ones but the bad ones just got hammered….and he threw tooanybinnings bad ones.

    When Phil started throwing that harder breaking ball it really made me feel better about his future…..I’m pretty optimistic about Phil goin in to this season and am expecting him to inch forward again if he can be healthy all year

  21. Duh Innings II February 17th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    If the 2008 Yankees could win 89 games with no good starting pitching besides Mussina and very little good relief pitching outside of Rivera, the 2013 Yankees who have much better pitching than the ’08 team should win at least 95 games. Heck, the 2013 team has their 2006-07 ace Wang pitching for a major-league contract thus at least three options for the fifth starter job, all homegrown: Nova, Phelps, Wang. The 2013 team has at least three options for the final slot in the bullpen: Phelps, Eppley, and newly acquired Kelley. Did Derek Lowe get a contract yet? If not, he’s a viable option for either job and would make them four deep for both jobs.

    The key to the 2013 Yankees offense is Teixiera. He posted only 24 HR and 84 RBI last season. ‘Say he posts 32 HR and 104 RBI in 2013, an 8 HR, 20 RBI improvement – not a stretch to say he could post by any means. Let’s also say the catcher posts 8 HR and 45 RBI, Ichiro 12 HR and 60 RBI.

    22 HR from Martin (21)/Stewart (1) in 2012 – 10 HR from the 2013 catcher = 12 – Teixiera’s 8 HR improvement = 4 HR loss, big deal.

    24 HR from 2012 Swisher – 12 from 2013 Ichiro = 12 HR loss, big deal.

    93 RBI from 2012 Swisher – 60 from 2013 Ichiro = 33 – Teixiera’s 20 RBI improvement = 13 RBI loss negated by Ichiro’s expected 25-30 stolen bases and better defense than Swisher.

    The loss of HR are overblown. The 2012 Yankees hit 245 HR last year, whoopee. They had the lowest OBP since 1992 (their last bad / sub-.500 season), second worst BA, R, and RPG in a season not shortened by a strike since ’92 (only the ’08 team hit and scored worse.) They had the same number of hits as the ’92 team, hit one less double than the ’92 team, and struck out over 200 times more than the ’92 team and more than any Yankee team struck out. In short, this team was awful scoring runs outside of the homerun, getting on base, and putting the ball in play.

    Let’s say the Yanks will ultimately lose 45 HR simply from the loss of Swisher (24 HR) and Martin (21.) They still would hit 200 HR – more than respectable.

    I expect 130-150 SB from Gardner, Nunez, Granderson, Jeter, and Suzuki who are more than capable of swiping that.

    I expect Cano to finally have a .320/.400/.600/1.000 40 HR 120 RBI (MVP) season he is capable of and if he does guess what? That’s a 7 HR 26 RBI improvement which along with a bounceback season from Teixiera would negate the loss of Swisher or Martin.

    I expect more than .290/.350/.450/.800 10 HR 50 RBI season from Jeter, but I would be happy with that considering his age and that’s top 3/4/5 shortstops production.

    Bottom line is the Yanks will win at least 90 games if we go by what they did in 2008 and that will be good enough for a wildcard slot and say the Yanks had to play a wildcard game. Ok, Sabathia 7 IP, Mo for the final 2 if the Yanks have even a one-run lead through 7 IP (all hands on deck for extra innings) and if Mo blows it, Yanks lose, the 2013 Yanks weren’t good enough because if you can’t win a game with your ace and all-time greatest reliever/closer, you most likely won’t go very far in the playoffs. If that happened maybe Mo says he doesn’t want to go out like that and he comes back in 2014 perhaps in a diminished role so he’s preserved for the postseason (20-25 saves, Robertson and whoever else saves as many games.)

    I’m really getting sick of reading about the Yanks as if hitting is what will determine their fate when in the end it comes down to pitching. If you can post a team ERA of 3.40-3.80 and average about 5 runs a game, you will most likely win at least 95 games.

    Someone explain to me how the addition of two starting pitchers and two hitterrs spells a minimum 20-win improvement for the 73-win Toronto Blue Jays assuming they win at least 93 games in 2013. Do you honestly think career NL pitcher Josh Johnson who was ok at best in 2012 and old-ass one-year wonder Dickey who couldn’t hack it as a reliever in the AL will propel them to 93-100 wins? Reyes’ career OBP stinks and Melky could tank. Bautista isn’t getting any younger and he’s coming off an injury-ruined year. If he reinjures himself the Blue Jays are in serious trouble because he’s their only real homerun threat besides Encarnacion.

  22. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 17th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    still sounds like the yankees still aren’t very good at spending 70 million more if it only gets them three wins.

    ******

    Naaah – it is more than that. The extra 70 million gets you:

    1 WS, 3 ALCS versus the Rays 1 trip to the ALCS – factoring in since 2008 and their resurgence – so yeah – it is a bigger difference than you say – - – -

    Plus – the Rays will NEVER get over the Tim Beckam over Buster Posey pick – that pick has come to define that franchise more and more – - – -

    This is Stoneburner, reporting from Ceti Alpha V, with the wax poetic minute – - – -

  23. randy l. February 17th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    “I expect Cano to finally have a .320/.400/.600/1.000 40 HR 120 RBI (MVP) season he is capable of and if he does guess what? ”

    cano has about and .850 lifetime OPS.

    he was .929 last year. great for a second baseman, hall of fame actually.

    but cano is not likely to have a 1.000 OPS

  24. Tar February 17th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “I think the best thing Hughes has going for him is the arm strength built up from being healthy and in the rotation for an entire season.”

    Yeah definitely. He regained a lot of confidence back as well (so important).

    One thing that is not discussed much (except by me :D ) is him tipping pitches. That came out early in the year and he seemed to turn things around after that as well.

  25. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Phil’s second half numbers are a testament to the wisdom of his having dumped the cutter. He was throwing two curves the second half of last season including the faster, tighter one. I think he’ll continue to improve that pitch going forward, as long as he sustains his health/arm strength.

  26. randy l. February 17th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    “Naaah – it is more than that. The extra 70 million gets you:”

    for three years that would be 210 million extra.

    so is a world series worth the extra 210 million over three years.

    actually the yankees don’t win that 2009 world series without signing sabathia, burnett, and teixeira.
    so is the back end cost of these three guys added in ?

    this back end cost of teixeira, sabathia, and burnett is a real cost for winning that one world series.

    and realistically it’s not likely the yankees win another won before teixeira’s contract runs out.

  27. Bronx Jeers February 17th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    I expect 130-150 SB from Gardner, Nunez, Granderson, Jeter, and Suzuki who are more than capable of swiping that.

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    If you get a full season of healthy Gardner then you can expect about half that.

  28. Tar February 17th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    “Phil’s second half numbers are a testament to the wisdom of his having dumped the cutter.”

    Yes and no.

    I think the cutter gets too much of the blame. Even in the first half he didn’t throw it enough to be the sole or even main reason for all his struggles. But it certainly did help to drop it.

    For me it was a nice combination of factors that I hope he parlays into this year.

  29. randy l. February 17th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    ” I think he’ll continue to improve that pitch going forward, as long as he sustains his health/arm strength.”

    yankeefeminista-

    i think hughes will be a good pitcher for years to come.

    i said he should have been signed at his lowest point last year before he had a good year.

    i hope hughes has a good year, but any excitement is tempered by the really high probability if he does he’s gone.

    the yankees have been reduced to a team that you have to not know too much to really get excited by them.

    it appears to me that hal’s yankees are designed for the casual low info fan.

  30. comnsnse February 17th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Hughes is essentially a one pitch pitcher. His secondary pitches are below average.

    When he misses with his very average fastball he gets hammered leading to his generally inconsistent W.L record.

    He is at best a back of the rotation guy or a middle reliever.

  31. DONNYBROOK February 17th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Phil Hughes will be as good as his Change Up. His developement will advance No further, unless he continues developing the Change Up, and likewise his Confidence in throwing that pitch at any time, in any count. Simple as pie.

  32. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Tar, I am not sure of the exact percentage of cutters he threw first half, but if you recall a bunch of the HR’s, EBH were given up in first half off a bad cutter. Hughes seemed to go to that pitch in critical situations far too often and get burned as a result.

    Randy, agree we should have extended Phil earlier when we had the chance. It will be bittersweet if he has continued success considering that that makes it more likely that we lose him. He will always to me be the symbol of the rebirth of the farm/or at the least the hope in terms of the route we intended to go RE: farm development. Phil is one of the first prospects I followed closely; it would be painful not only SP-wise but emotionally to lose him after following him so closely–trips all over the East coast to minor league parks–for so many years.

  33. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    The changeup is developing. That need is a given.

  34. Against All Odds February 17th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Sooner this guy is gone, happier I will be.

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    So will I but I’ll be happier for different reasons

  35. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Odds, you mean because Joba is a… stahtin’ pitchah?!!!

  36. Against All Odds February 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    I think they’ll be the accepted wave of the future,

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    It has a good chance of happening because the steroids being used now will be inferior to the ones in the future. Less side effects and more benefits

  37. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    *Jobber

  38. Tar February 17th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    YF

    A good read on Yankee Analysts. Actually he threw the cutter a lot more than I thought early on.

    http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/.....ment-41523

    They look at both dropping the cutter and “luck”.

    “I will suggest that Hughes’ recent performance is undoubtably, partially the result of a regression to the mean of his BABIP, HR/FB rate, and other “luck” statistics.
    Yet the timing of this transition, coinciding with Hughes’ adjusting his pitch selection for a greater degree of control, suggests also that there real improvement here.”

    Something they leave out is—– coincidentally Phil’s “luck” numbers turned around exactly at the same time that the “tipping issue” was raised. Let’s just say I am not a big believer in coincidences. :D

  39. Against All Odds February 17th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Plus – the Rays will NEVER get over the Tim Beckam over Buster Posey pick – that pick has come to define that franchise more and more – – – -

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    It would if you exclude all the other times they drafted good players

  40. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Also as far as fangraph % go, not sure if they also referred to the cutter as a slider in some those pitchfx categorizations. They didn’t exactly do much differentiation at times, so I don’t know about accuracy…

  41. Ys Guy February 17th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    do i detect a little snark regarding a derek jeter press event?

    (chad probably could have ‘pre-written’ just about everyting jeter will say for tomorrow’s paper)

  42. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Tar, I recall a lot of cutters being thrown first half in critical situations that got whacked. And props on your pitch tipping alert. :)

  43. yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Tar, having watched Hughes closely, I think it was more improvement than mere luck.

  44. rl1856 February 17th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Hughes’s season turned around after Girardi and Rothschild ordered him to be more agressive on the mound. The phrase “pitch like a reliever” stuck in my mind. Hughes had felt that he needed to conserve energy during a start so he could go deep in the game. He was pitching to contact and nibbling around the plate. He was told to challenge hitters and throw as hard as he can until he got tired. To his surprise, he didn’t get tired and from June until August was one of the 10 best starters in the league. A more agressive mentality helped his power curve and kept batters off balance. If he can build on last season, he will do very well. He has the potential to be a solid #2 pitcher if he continues to improve.

    Loss of HR power is detrimental, but the keys to offsetting the loss are added speed from Gardner and Ichiro, improvements from Tex and Youklis, team improvement in OBP and BA with risp. If all occur then we will be fine. Pitching staff will be among the best in the league, with potentially the best pen in the ML.

  45. Tar February 17th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    YF

    According to that article Phil threw the Cutter 12% of the time in April. That’s a lot more “whacked” pitches than I thought. :D

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock February 17th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    Joba wasn’t goofing around, he was playing with his young son.

    And the worst thing that could happen from jumping into a laundry cart, outside of some freak thing, is maybe contact dermatitis.

    If Joba’s horsing around like that, he must feel pretty good. That’s good news for Joba… and for the Yankees’ 6th inning :(

  47. Tar February 17th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    “Tar, having watched Hughes closely, I think it was more improvement than mere luck.”

    Without a doubt.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock February 17th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    yankeefeminista February 17th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Odds, you mean because Joba is a… stahtin’ pitchah?!!!
    ///

    :D Should be.

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock February 17th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Hughes’ progress is one of the few really exciting things to watch on this 2013 team.

    If he continues his ascension, and they don’t try to re-sign one of their own developed arms still in prime years, so much for “pitching wins,” eh?

  50. Against All Odds February 17th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    and for the Yankees’ 6th inning

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    Need to lock down that tough and painful 6th inning. He’s the most important picther on the team in the 6th

  51. J. Alfred Prufrock February 17th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Need to lock down that tough and painful 6th inning. He’s the most important picther on the team in the 6th
    ///

    genius at work ;)


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