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Here we go again: Chamberlain brings up the idea of being a starter again

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 26, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A few question into an otherwise routine, postgame interview, Joba Chamberlain was asked about his ultimate aspiration. He started his answer with these words.

“This is probably going to spark a bunch of stuff.”

Oh boy, here we go.

“It’s one of those things where it’s like, do you think you have the capability to start? Yes,” Chamberlain said. “Do I have four pitches that I can throw for a strike? Yes. Do I have two plus pitches in the bullpen that I can throw at any time? Yes. I guess I’m trying to have my cake and eat it, too. I feel like I’m good enough to do both. I’ve proven that I can do both. Whatever it is, if I close (or start), I want to be one or the other. I’ve been in the role of in the bullpen for a while, but am I confident that if I got the chance to start again somewhere — wherever that’s at — I could do it? Without a doubt. I just have to focus on this year and what I can do to improve to help this team win, continue to try to win ballgames for them.”

To be clear, at no point did Chamberlain say he should be a starter. At no point did he say he wants the Yankees to put him in the rotation, and at no point did he complain about them putting him in the bullpen. In fact, he was very clear about being happy to do whatever the Yankees want him to do.

“We’re down an outfield bat right now, too,” Brian Cashman said.

Obviously the Yankees aren’t putting Chamberlain in the outfield, and both Cashman and Joe Girardi made it clear that they won’t put Chamberlain in the rotation either.

“I’d like to catch one more game, too,” Girardi said.

Why was Chamberlain pulled from the rotation in the first place? Girardi said the bullpen simply “fit who he was,” but Cashman referenced the 2008 shoulder injury. After that, the Yankees gave Chamberlain one more year in the rotation before ultimately deciding he would be better off as a reliever. But let’s face it, no pitcher grows up dreaming of becoming a seventh-inning guy. Closer or starter; those are the high-powered jobs.

“I don’t know what the future holds for me,” Chamberlain said. “I have no idea. All I can control is to be healthy this year, to go out and pitch and whatever happens, happens.”

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98 Responses to “Here we go again: Chamberlain brings up the idea of being a starter again”

  1. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    If Pineda is a still a starter after serious shoulder surgery, why isn’t Joba after a shoulder injury that didn’t require surgery?

    Girardi’s comment is goofy.

  2. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Tommorrow we’ll probably hear that Joba has hired Scott Boras as his new agent

  3. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Nice try Joba. You’re not getting closer money anywhere. But you can stay here for 5 mil and earn the closer role no doubt.

    Joba has the potential to be a real bargain as the next closer.

  4. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    A few question into an otherwise routine, postgame interview, Joba Chamberlain was asked about his ultimate aspiration. He started his answer with these words.

    Thank you for clearing that up, Chad.

  5. Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Joba is right, he has proven that he can be a starter. It’s a pretty large mistake that the Yankees gave up on him so prematurely.

  6. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Maybe there are numerous examples, but when have the current Yankee decision-makers admitted that they made a mistake and reversed course?

  7. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    @eboland11: Cashman: “I love Johnny Damon, he was an awesome Yankee when we had him. But that was a while ago. It’s not something we’re going to pursue”

  8. Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Maybe there are numerous examples, but when have the current Yankee decision-makers admitted that they made a mistake and reversed course?

    That’s a good question, it might take time to think of good examples. The first thing that comes to mind is that Cashman has spent significantly less on the bullpen in recent years. I think he came to the realization that relievers are very volatile except in special cases and it’s better to go year to year with cheap arms.

  9. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Lets have the next post be about the Montero trade!

  10. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Free Joba! :twisted:

  11. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Joba says “If I get a chance to start-wherever that is.” Goodbye Joba. He is giving notice to other teams.

  12. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah.

    ———————-

    our boy still believes he can start
    ///

    Group hug.

    Now put him where he belongs!

    I’m out, but what a great piece of text! Later, guys.

    —————————–

    It won’t be here we all know that

  13. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Please, Lord, no.

  14. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    Joba is right, he has proven that he can be a starter. It’s a pretty large mistake that the Yankees gave up on him so prematurely.

    ____________________________________________________

    Until he goes somewhere else to start and blows out his shoulder

  15. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah.

    ———————-

    our boy still believes he can start
    ___
    Our boy’s heart and arm both tell him it is so.

    ————-

    I always wondered what he thought. The debate on whether he can start or not still gets brought up on various boards/blogs. Since he hasn’t talked about it since 2010 I always assumed he settled into the role of reliever and gave up the idea of starting.

  16. Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Until he goes somewhere else to start and blows out his shoulder

    You could say that for any pitcher ever.

  17. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Honestly I just want Joba to stay healthy and have a good 2013…..he does that and he will help the team a lot of position himself to make some money next year…..

    Either way he needs to stay healthy and perform this year

  18. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Until he goes somewhere else to start and blows out his shoulder

    You could say that for any pitcher ever
    _______________________________

    But he had shoulder trouble once he became a starter as a Yankee

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    “I’d like to catch one more game, too,” Girardi said.
    ////

    Wow, equating Joba’s desire to start, which he’s perfectly capable of doing, with your desire to turn the clock back? What’s Giardi, 48, 29 or so?

    Joba’s 26, 27 with two plus pitches and very serviceable third and fourth?

    Sure. Makes sense.

    Any way, Joe, you can always live through Stewie. Oh, wait…

  20. Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    But he had shoulder trouble once he became a starter as a Yankee

    Yes but even after the shoulder problem they let him start for a whole season.

  21. Pat M. February 26th, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Scouts across the nation basically all have said the same thing, Joba is better served in the pen……Hell if Dennis Eckersley and Dave Righetti both went on to be outstanding releivers so can Joba Chamberlain. And these two tossed no-no’s as starters. And before the peanut gallery starts up, Rags is on the record in saying that the shift to the pen prolonged his career…..

  22. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    “I’d like to catch one more game, too,” Girardi said.
    ////

    You’re basically catching now….well the equivalent every time Stewie is back there

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Lets have the next post be about the Montero trade!
    ///

    Well at least this topic could actually have an outcome of redemption.

  24. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Odds, Pruf, maybe we can bang out some “Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah” t-shirts and wear them to the Stadium. :) I sometimes run into Cash. Maybe I can give him one. ;)

  25. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    Girardi probably didn’t do too well on analogies on his SAT’s.

  26. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Joba was always a starter, he did not become one then hurt his shoulder. He hurt it in a weird game after a weird play. There is nothing that says relieving is easier on arms or shoulders. Other clubs, in a desire to keep a guy healthy, have said starting is better. Intuitively that makes more sense, a rigid schedule, closely monitored. An injury prone guy going to the pen is put there because losing a starter is tough on a club and they can be pitched sparingly if necessary, the act of relieving itself is not inherantly safer.

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Righetti going to the bullpen probably cost us a pennant or two – we were short a good starter in the 80s.

    It was a stupid decision made by George, who wanted to have some splashy sequel to Goose.

  28. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
    Patrick February 26th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Until he goes somewhere else to start and blows out his shoulder

    You could say that for any pitcher ever
    _______________________________

    But he had shoulder trouble once he became a starter as a Yankee

    ——————————–

    Of did he have shoulder trouble because they decided to do the Joba rules.

  29. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    PatM,

    You catch any of Culver? Very slick with the glove…., could probably handle SS in the bigs right now…..but after seeing him hit its tough to really see him ever doing enough there to make it…..just really has no bat speed or firmness to his swing at all…..hope Im wrong….he’s still pretty young…..but he looks totally overmatched

  30. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    …actually he probably took the ACT’s because he applied to Northwestern…

    And relieving is harder on the arm because of all the erratic appearances, getting up and down… So, so much for that theory…

  31. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    He’s not bad from the right side. Terrible from the left side. If he’d give up switch hitting and hit only right handed, he might have a chance

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Joba is also more suited to starting. He’s got more room for error as a starter, because he can plod along until he gets his mojo working.

  33. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    or***

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Odds, Pruf, maybe we can bang out some “Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah” t-shirts and wear them to the Stadium. :) I sometimes run into Cash. Maybe I can give him one. ;)
    ///

    LOL I’m sure we’ll have “access” to Cash often enough down in Trenton.

  35. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:32 pm
    …actually he probably took the ACT’s because he applied to Northwestern…

    And relieving is harder on the arm because of all the erratic appearances, getting up and down… So, so much for that theory…

    ____________________________________________

    He’d have to go play winter ball after the season then to get his arm stretched out and used to pitching multiple innings. With free agency next winter, he’s not gonna do that and risk injury

  36. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    The Ghost of Lohud Past February 26th, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    ———————–

    Why do I feel this person has been here before

  37. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    I could see a team like his (nearly) hometown KC spending starter bux on him come to think of it. This is a team that traded their top prospect for a couple years of James Shields. The year before they traded one of their most productive hitters for Jonathon Sanchez.

  38. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:29 pm
    Odds, Pruf, maybe we can bang out some “Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah” t-shirts and wear them to the Stadium. I sometimes run into Cash. Maybe I can give him one.

    —————————-

    We can add some chants to it too lol jk

  39. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    Tackelberry says:
    February 26, 2013 at 4:33 pm
    He’s not bad from the right side. Terrible from the left side. If he’d give up switch hitting and hit only right handed, he might have a chance

    That’s true….I’ve only seen him hit lefty and it’s pretty bad…., kid does has a canon for an arm

  40. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    The year before they traded one of their most productive hitters for Jonathon Sanchez.
    ///

    Is this a euphemism for Melky Cabrera?
    ….
    Brett?

  41. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    “Why do I feel this person has been here before”

    After Stoneburner 4 I guess we are getting a reboot with a new title

  42. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    “Why do I feel this person has been here before”

    After Stoneburner 4 I guess we are getting a reboot with a new title

    ———————————

    I guess so :D

  43. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    blake,

    Are you discussing Almonte?

    Because if you are, he is seriously in need of going to school on reads and tracking before he can really be promoted.

  44. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    I’m not Brett the hitman you idiot.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Well, not any more! ;)

    I really don’t give a crap. Just an observation.

  46. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    The Ghost of Lohud Past September 15th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    “You have reached the desk of West Coast Yankees Fan, I am unable to take your call but it is important that I argue with you.

    Same thing

  47. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Somebody is trolling WCYF. He (Stone) should be flattered.

  48. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
    blake,

    Are you discussing Almonte?

    Because if you are, he is seriously in need of going to school on reads and tracking before he can really be promoted.

    _____________________________________

    We were discussing Culver

  49. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    “Are you discussing Almonte?

    Because if you are, he is seriously in need of going to school on reads and tracking before he can really be promoted.”

    Eh…there is no perfect answer…..if he can hit and be passable in RF then for 6 weeks they should consider him

  50. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Odds, like “Jobber’s a stahtah!” (clap clap clap clap clap) :)

  51. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    @BryanHoch: I believe a team might have Joba compete for a 5th starter job in ’14, with the bullpen as a fallback. But that team won’t be the Yankees.

  52. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    I doubt Culver gives up switch-hitting to hit righty, even though he is better from that side. He is a natural lefty.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    He can ONLY play RF and even that is a risk.

    The maddening thing is, he has the athleticism, he just gets late jumps and runs the weirdest routes at times.

    He needs more time to learn. If he just is a bad instinctive OF, then he at least should work on angles. I’d prefer to see him get that time.

  54. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    @BryanHoch has it right.

  55. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Hoch’s comment is blatantly obvious.

  56. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    He can ONLY play RF and even that is a risk.”

    Can’t be worse than Rivera

  57. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Give him a proper farewell and trade him to the Royals at the deadline – beat them to the punch.

  58. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    I agree that Almonte’s fielding needs some work. He overplays balls. But I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a look for a month and a half. Just don’t like that he wouldn’t get to bat/work on his hitting from the right side.

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Hoch is stating the obvious, but the Yankees should just re-sign Joba and make him a starter. Of course, they are so dug in on their position, this would never happen. Not like he’d cost that much.

  60. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Pruf, good luck with that. It would never happen.

  61. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    I don’t really want to have to hear Brian Cashman say that the Yankees and Justin Chamberlain have parted ways though, so get some value back.

  62. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
    Odds, like “Jobber’s a stahtah!” (clap clap clap clap clap)

    —————————

    That can work.

  63. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    But I am prepared to move on, either way. Same with Granderson and Hughes. If you can’t get cash back, take the savings and the picks (if relevant which is not the case with Joba).

  64. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Yankeefem – sure it’s tempting to include a good looking young left-handed hitter. But this kid is a hazmat on defense. It’s too bad if, because they’ve so depleted their lineup of youth, they’d call him up knowing he has serious issues in the field.

    I love his upside and SH and tools, but he needs development time.

  65. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    Yea I know it’s unlikely, but it’s just stupid. I’ll be glad when their time of keeping the seat warm of this MLB member franchise is at an end.

  66. champ809 February 26th, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Joba will get the opportunity to be a starter next year for another team and the Yanks will eat crow when he develops into a very good one over the next few years. If he’s smart he goes to the NL and mows down that league and makes himself $100mil over the next 6years.

    The Yanks screwed that one up royally and don’t have the cajones to admit it, period.

    I believe Joba will be lights out this year and if I were Gen. Joe I’d use Joba as a BUC to Mo and look to use him in save situations when Mo’s not avail or in an effort to preserve as much of Mo’s last few bullets as possible during the season to have him avail for that last postseason ride should we make the dance this year.

  67. Pat M. February 26th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    blake……It was mentioned last summer that Cito’s mitt was good enough to be playing in the bigs . His stick looks weak though. and it could be a situation of over thinking about over impressing. Camp is tough on young guys when mixing it up with the big leaguers. When the time comes about the Yanks will be going outside the family for their shortstop. Danny Espinosa type guy, although he needs to drop the lefthitting stuff if he doesn’t pick it up this season

  68. G. Love February 26th, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    It’s great to have such a feel good manager who equates a players desire to have a more important role & a larger career while still in his 20′s to an almost 50 year old playing catcher again the majors.

    I shudder to think what he tells his kids when they tell him what they want to be when they grow up.

    I hope Joba helps us win this season and I then I hope he gets his wish. You only have the talent to be in this game for so long and if he truly believes what he said, he needs to find an organization that will give him that shot. It’s clearly not here with the 2 in charge quoted above.

  69. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    FiretheUMP suggested the Royals for Joba, I think thats real likely. Someone else mentioned a few. I’m gonna give my list of teams I think would sign Joba this offseason to start: Cardinals, Rockies, Orioles, Royals, Brewers, Dbacks, Rays, Indians, Mets, A’s, & Astros.

    Joba is getting older, he will not have to really go through a stretching out process. Just the process of preparing as a starter. CJ wilson is a guy who went from 70 to 200 innings. When you’re in your mid 20′s, early 30′s, you can jump back into starting. Teams’ll do it.

  70. PhiltheThrill February 26th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    One of the greatest mistakes in Yankee history.

  71. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    Braden Looper is another guy that made the jump. Of course you have guys like Wainwright go from 1 to the other fairly easily.

  72. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    What about the Padres?

    Joba’s stuff in that park?

    At worst he comes out to Hells Bells (no disrespect to Trevor Hoffman).

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    PhiltheThrill February 26th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    One of the greatest mistakes in Yankee history.
    //

    You said it, Phil. Good to see you around!

  74. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    I also left out the Cubs. Theo and Jed would probably be all over Joba.

  75. FiretheUMPIRE February 26th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    i guess the point is, the market is fruitful for Joba. They won’t trade him though. They’re going to let him go for nothing. And unlike Granderson or possibly Hughes, there will be no draft pick compensation. They need to recoup some value for Joba. He obviously did some thinking while away for so long. There is big money out there for him. Sign a 1 or 2 year deal as a starter and if you hit it big you set yourself up for a huge contract after this next one.

  76. LGY February 26th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    Joba’s worst injury in his career came as a reliever and Hughes keeps getting hurt as a starter.

    The decision making and logic regarding those two has been top notch.

  77. Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
    FiretheUMP suggested the Royals for Joba, I think thats real likely. Someone else mentioned a few. I’m gonna give my list of teams I think would sign Joba this offseason to start: Cardinals, Rockies, Orioles, Royals, Brewers, Dbacks, Rays, Indians, Mets, A’s, & Astros.
    ———————————————————————–

    Only 1 team off that list but no chance that the Cards sign him. Their system is loaded with young pitching (Miller, Rosenthal, Waccha, Martinez). I can definitely see him going to KC though. Still popular there with his Nebraska ties and only a few hours from Lincoln.

  78. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Only 1 team off that list but no chance that the Cards sign him.

    The only reason I put them on there is because they have a history of doing that kind of thing, grabbing cheap guys and turning them into starters. They’re not ones to look a gift horse in the mouth, and their front office is very good.

    Of course that was when they had Dave Duncan, with him on indefinite leave/out of the game maybe they would be less likely.

  79. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    The decision making and logic regarding those two has been top notch.

    ——————————–

    You can make that case when it comes to all their pitching:
    Pineda – throw harder
    Manny – how long they waited until he needed surgery

  80. Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    The only reason I put them on there is because they have a history of doing that kind of thing, grabbing cheap guys and turning them into starters. They’re not ones to look a gift horse in the mouth, and their front office is very good.

    Of course that was when they had Dave Duncan, with him on indefinite leave/out of the game maybe they would be less likely.
    —————————————————————–

    I agree but they just aren’t going to touch him. That system is loaded with young arms and I think they are going to roll with them at this point. I really dislike the Cards but they have really set up a nice foundation there. A decent chance they lose Wainwright after this year and they have guys like Miller and Rosenthal to step right in.

    Any of those other teams I can definitely see though. Get him fairly cheap (for a starter) in a low pressure environment and hope that he can stay healthy and produce. We definitely saw glimpses of what he could be in his brief career as a starter. I think he can still be pretty good even if his stuff isn’t quite what it was a few years ago.

  81. champ809 February 26th, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    I got a feeling that a spring trade may bring back Tabata to play in LF if none of the “in house” guys show much early on.

    I wouldn’t be mad at that. I’d like to see what he’d do with 200-250 focused ab’s….still like his upside even with average power

  82. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    “It’s great to have such a feel good manager who equates a players desire to have a more important role & a larger career while still in his 20?s to an almost 50 year old playing catcher again the majors.”

    It’s like he is certain of whatever he thinks, and has no sense (or care) about how it may sound to others. Not the kind of person most people would want to be around.

  83. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    There is no logical reason Joba cannot start. If starters can’t return to starting after an injury tere would be no starters. Next year the team will desperately need starting pitching. Yet, they will not consider it since it would indicate a possible error.

    Whether Joba would be an effective starter is unanswered, but it is foolish to say health prevents him from doing so.

    It seems another example of management ego impacting decisions.

  84. LGY February 26th, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Oh and can’t leave out that Joba has better career stats as a starter than Hughes, while Hughes has better career stats as a reliever than Joba.

  85. LGY February 26th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Both should have been starters all along but based on the logic to make Joba a reliever it makes no sense that Hughes is a starter.

    If only one could start, based on the facts and information we have, their roles should be reversed.

  86. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    “It seems another example of management ego impacting decisions.”

    In a nutshell. It seems to be the SOP now. I don’t think it was like that a few years ago, but something seems to have changed. I’m not sure what.

  87. Pat M. February 26th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Enrolled for the 2013 over /under league. Need to find this year’s surprise club, could the Pirates put in together and avoid the late collapse ??? Vegas watch supplies the lines and as I do every March, please feel free to offer your best 5 teams. I have to play every team a mininium of 40.00 dollars. Basically I need to spread 2 grand

  88. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    It seems another example of management ego impacting decisions.

    ———————

    Well then that starts with Cashman. he basically admitted he determines where certain players go.

  89. blake February 26th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    The Twins literally have no pitchers so Id put them on the list too

  90. blake February 26th, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    “Enrolled for the 2013 over /under league. Need to find this year’s surprise club”

    I think the Cubs may be better than people think….not a playoff team or anything but maybe go over their prediction…..I haven’t seen the lines so it’s tough to say…….

  91. Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    This might seem crazy but I think the Marlins will sniff around the wild card until August. It just seems like the perfect Marlins situation… no-name team, nobody in the stadium, a lot of young kids just out there playing. They weren’t a good team before so maybe they show something… They will be better than the Mets and Phils when the season ends (which probably isn’t saying a whole lot).

  92. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    I think it is Cashman, perhaps trying to demonstrate his prowess as a GM. If so, it’s not working real well. Cashman used to be far different than he is today. Now, he is edgy and defensive. I will not psychoanalyze.

  93. randy l. February 26th, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    it’s pretty funny how the yankees have put players like joba into a position where they have to think of themselves first .

    swisher gone, granderson gone. hughes gone. joba gone.

    individual yankee players know it’s every man for himself.

    the yankees have let everyone know on the team that they no longer will take care of their players if they perform.

    the best options and opportunities are elsewhere.

    this is something new and it’s going to be interesting how it plays out.

  94. Tidrow February 26th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    I think the organization is too married to statistics. They hardly do anything without first looking at percentages. They’ve lost their feel for the game. They’ve become robots.

  95. G. Love February 26th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Pat M.,

    Have a feeling either the Indians will be the surprise team in the AL Central. Feel like where they had a lot of C’s & D’s on that team they replaced with B+’s.

    If the pitcher they got from Arizona, Bauer I think, pans out they’re going to be good and that lineup will score runs.

    I also think they’ll get a bump from Francona in the dugout like the Dodgers did when Torre walked into the room for them.

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 26th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Just a drive-by to say thanks to Shame for the link to that story. Things like that renew my faith in humankind. And what an inspiration the boy is. Kudos to his parents. :)

    I would also like to renew my stance on Joba being a starter. I still have not given up on that, nor will I.

    Great night all.

  97. Triple Short of a Cycle February 26th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Why do people think the Indians will be good this year?

    Yes they added Bourn and Swisher but they lost Choo and their pitching is awful

  98. G. Love February 26th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Triple,

    I think they’ll be better because Choo, Hafner and Sizemore have all been injured a lot and they’ve gotten very little production from them. To replace them with healthy players with good production is a plus. If Carlos Santana is healthy, they have a good lineup.

    As for their pitching, it could surprise people hence why people think they can be a surprise team.


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