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Spring training Game 4: Yankees at Phillies

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 26, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (1-2)
Eduardo Nunez SS
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Travis Hafner DH
Matt Diaz LF
Melky Mesa CF
Bobby Wilson C
Addison Maruszak 3B

RHP Jose Ramirez (7-6, 3.19 in 2012 in High-A)
This is Ramirez’s first appearance in big league camp

PHILLIES (2-1)
Jimmy Rollins SS
Ben Revere CF
Kevin Frandsen 2B
Ryan Howard 1B
Michael Young DH
Domonic Brown LF
Laynce Nix RF
Cody Asche 3B
Steven Lerud C

RHP Kyle Kendrick (11-12, 3.90 in 2012)
Kendrick vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., not on TV or Radio

WEATHER: Rain finally stopped and it looks like the game will start on time.

UMPIRES: HP David Soucy, 1B Eric Cooper, 2B Dan Iassogna, 3B Vic Carapazza

PHILLIES PEN: Philadelphia is scheduled to throw RHP Aaron Cook, RHP Chad Durbin, RHP Zach Minor and LHP Jeremy Horst.

THE RIGHT SIDE: After three straight left-handed starters, the Yankees finally face a right-hander in Kyle Kendrick. He had a 1.54 ERA last spring.

LATE CHANGE: The Phillies made a late lineup change, putting Kevin Frandsen at second place instead of Chase Utley.

CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE: Jayson Nix’s brother Laynce is in right field for the Phillies.

WHAT TO WATCH: Another chance to see Melky Mesa and Matt Diaz make a case for the left field job. Adonis Garcia, Thomas Neal and Ronnier Mustelier will also play today. … This will be the first spring appearance for both Joba Chamberlain and Dave Robertson. … It’s the first spring start for fringe catching candidate Bobby Wilson. Catching prospect J.R. Murphy is scheduled to get behind the plate for the first time this spring.

UPDATE, 1:09 p.m.: Nunez out on a ball back to the pitcher. Give him credit, he’s run hard on every single ball this spring.

UPDATE, 1:10 p.m.: Ichiro with an infield single up the middle. Just beat Rollins throw from behind second base.

UPDATE, 1:14 p.m.: Ichiro steals second and scores on a Teixeira double into the right-field corner. It’s a quick 1-0 lead for the Yankees.

UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: Three up, three down for Ramirez. I don’t see a stadium radar reading anywhere, and the Phillies broadcast — which is on in the press box — doesn’t show velocity.

UPDATE, 1:24 p.m.: Matt Diaz with a single up the middle. That’s his first hit of the spring.

UPDATE, 1:27 p.m.: Mesa struck out, and was also called for batter’s interference on a stolen base attempt by Diaz. Mesa is out. Diaz is out. And Bobby Wilson followed with a fly out to center. That ended quickly.

UPDATE, 1:37 p.m.: Ramirez walked Howard, but he got Young to hit into a double play and got Brown to ground to first. That’s another scoreless inning from the young, hard-throwing right hander.

UPDATE, 1:43 p.m.: Ichiro had another hit in the top of the third, he was left stranded and now Robertson is out to pitch the bottom of the inning.

UPDATE, 1:51 p.m.: Nice play by Teixeira at first base get the Yankees out of the third inning with a runner stranded (a Robertson walk). Up next should be Chamberlain to pitch the bottom of the fourth, but first, it’s Teixeira, Hafner and Diaz coming to the plate in the top of the fourth.

UPDATE, 1:58 p.m.: Diaz lines sharply to first base, and it’s an unassisted double play. Granted, that one was bad luck, but Diaz has hit into three double plays already this spring.

UPDATE, 2:07 p.m.: Two strikeouts for Chamberlain, and the inning ends with a nice play by Nunez. Still a 1-0 Yankees lead heading into the fifth.

UPDATE, 2:12 p.m.: If that ball is a foot closer to the line, it’s a double for Maruszak. Instead it’s a 5-4-3 double play.

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222 Responses to “Spring training Game 4: Yankees at Phillies”

  1. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Excited to see Ramierez throw….first time for me

  2. UnKnown February 26th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Pumped to watch this Yankee game today.

  3. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    @ScottMCBS: Mike Trout lost 20 lbs last spring fighting viral infection. “I’ll take that 20-pound virus,” Mike Scioscia joked.

  4. Mike_Boston February 26th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

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    —– Forwarded Message —–
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    Subject: Re: proposal

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    I was going to lay out over 10K worth of gear, maybe you can buy some junk for $1500, I hope it doesn’t rain.

    On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Mike > wrote:
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    ________________________________________
    Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:35 PM
    Subject: Re: proposal

    you get what you pay for

    On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Mike wrote:
    Hi Frank,
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    ________________________________________

    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:08 PM
    Subject: proposal

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  5. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Excited to see Ramierez throw….first time for me

    Love all the televised ST games. I’ve only ever seen Ramirez start in Tampa once and watching a pitcher on TV is way better for seeing the movement on the pitch.

  6. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    @YankeeSource

    Agreed. RT @JosephDelGrippo He might have the best change up in the system.

    :twisted:

  7. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    For those of us that can’t see it now, MLB network will probably replay it tonight

  8. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    JF,

    Take it you’re not in Clearwater today?

  9. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    They need to get Nunez a smaller helmet

  10. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Seriously he could get hit in the head with a throw and that woukd be bad news.

    Ichiro can still get down the line

  11. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Tex looks thinner to me

  12. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Take it you’re not in Clearwater today?

    Nope, next games I’ll be at are probably March 16 vs Atlanta and then March 23 and 24 in lakeland and tampa.

  13. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Tex smoked that hanger

  14. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Great pair of swings for Tex off Kendrick, 1 liner just foul then hooked a deep fliner just fair.

  15. UnKnown February 26th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Tex! Nice rip buddy.

  16. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Give as much info on Ramierez as you can, boys.. I hate not having a tv in my office. If I ever make it to upper management you can bet your ass I’ll have one in here somewhere…….

  17. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Rollins can still get it at short. GEtting to Ichiro’s ball and then Hafners is pretty rangey

  18. UnKnown February 26th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    I like Hafner. Always looks like he is going to murder the ball. I hope he does just that in the Bronx.

  19. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    I don’t think Hafner steals too many bases this year.

  20. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    YES should really forgo showing any Nets games in favor of ST games lol.

  21. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Come on. Rollins was playing Hafner up-the-middle. You coulda made that play.

  22. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Lefties hit .074 against Ramierez last year….probably a testament to that CU

  23. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Man this kid looks like a big league talent

  24. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Come on. Rollins was playing Hafner up-the-middle. You coulda made that play.

    Shaded there but it was still a hard liner, need a good first step for that ball.

  25. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Ramierez clearly throws hard….no gun on but he’s bringin it ….

  26. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Phillies broadcast needs a radar gun, how can they not have one? MASN didnt have one either. Cheapskates.

  27. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Impressive…..like the arm slot….like the fastball….kids got good stuff….gotta keep him healthy

  28. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Ramirez made us forget Arodys Vizciano

  29. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Phillies got the jitters regarding Utley. Batting him outta the 2 Hole, (as rumored), would signal a power outtage.

  30. jacksquat February 26th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Ramirez has a major league arm for sure.

  31. Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Ramirez is very impressive. Health is the key but this guy has legitimate` top of the rotation stuff. Exciting.

  32. jacksquat February 26th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    bogus call

  33. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Matt diaz hitting a bunch of punchless ground balls so far.

  34. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Nasty CU there to Howard

  35. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    Matt diaz hitting a bunch of punchless ground balls so far.

    ________________________________________________

    Remember last Spring Ibanez didn’t hit a lick. Then when the season started he came alive. It’s early yet

  36. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    Ramirez is very impressive. Health is the key but this guy has legitimate` top of the rotation stuff. Exciting.

    _____________________________________________

    He’s ticketed for AA. Hopefully can reach AAA before the season is over

  37. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Too cute with Howard…..trying to be perfect there

  38. Gish February 26th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    By “not on TV or Radio”, you meant “definitely on the MLB network”, right Chad?

  39. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Can see what folks like about Ramierez….heavy sinking fastball and good Cu

  40. Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    Ramirez is very impressive. Health is the key but this guy has legitimate` top of the rotation stuff. Exciting.

    _____________________________________________

    He’s ticketed for AA. Hopefully can reach AAA before the season is over
    —————————————————————–

    That would be a productive season for him. I think he’ll be really good if he can just stay healthy. Might be a guy who is in the big league mix by the end of next year.

  41. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Im glad they interviewed Kyle Kendrick over that entire inning. Why did we have to see Kendrick?

  42. Tyler February 26th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    Matt diaz hitting a bunch of punchless ground balls so far.

    ________________________________________________

    Remember last Spring Ibanez didn’t hit a lick. Then when the season started he came alive. It’s early yet
    ——————————————————————

    Ibanez was clutch but I think people forget how awful he was almost all summer when he was a regular outfielder. I like the guy and he provided some power but I wish the Yanks had a better option for LF right now than a guy like Diaz.

  43. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    I watched a piece of yesterday’s game and now this, and ‘am already tired of seeing a conga line of Yankee players with numbers on their backs in the 60′s-90′s range. Pitchers OK. Position players early inna game? NOPE

  44. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    That would be a productive season for him. I think he’ll be really good if he can just stay healthy. Might be a guy who is in the big league mix by the end of next year.

    ______________________________________________

    Hopefully joined by Banuelos, with Campos, Mitchell and DePaula right behind

  45. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Jerkface says:
    February 26, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    Im glad they interviewed Kyle Kendrick over that entire inning. Why did we have to see Kendrick?

    Opposing broadcasts in ST are just dreadful….

  46. Warning Track Power February 26th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Glad I decided to record the game on MLB Network today. Looking forward to seeing
    Ramirez throw a little bit.
    I had to admit, I also set the game to record so I could watch Joba and Robertson throw.

  47. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    DRob sighting

  48. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    LATE CHANGE: The Phillies made a late lineup change, putting Kevin Frandsen at second place instead of Chase Utley.

    Wonder if Philly “fans” are having the same reaction to this that some on this board are having towards the Youk stuff.

  49. Cashmoney February 26th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    tackel, I have a feeling that Campos will go down with major injury this season.

  50. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    UPDATE, 1:09 p.m.: Nunez out on a ball back to the pitcher. Give him credit, he’s run hard on every single ball this spring.

    The fact that a player needs to be given credit for this speaks volumes about where we are in sports.

  51. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Robertson late on the cover.

  52. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    “Wonder if Philly “fans” are having the same reaction to this that some on this board are having towards the Youk stuff.”

    Probably….he gets hurt all the time too

  53. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Cashmoney February 26th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    tackel, I have a feeling that Campos will go down with major injury this season.

    _________________________________________________

    If that happens, Cashman will really be toasted for not having hiim have TJ surgery last season

  54. Cashmoney February 26th, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    yeah we will see, i thought it was odd that Banuelos was on the shelve that long before we heard about the need for surgery, I think Cashman was afraid Hal shooting him for the trifecta of Banuelos, Campos and Pineda under the knives simultaneous. This, of course, is all conjectures.

  55. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Hafners swung it good so far this spring.

  56. kd February 26th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    at work…. how did ramirez look? blake seemed to be impressed

  57. PacoDooley February 26th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    I watched a piece of yesterday’s game and now this, and ‘am already tired of seeing a conga line of Yankee players with numbers on their backs in the 60?s-90?s range. Pitchers OK. Position players early inna game? NOPE
    —————————

    I hope this stops soon – maybe after the roster is eased by the loss of players to the World Baseball Classic (though that won’t take care of that many spots). Nice to see guys like Teix, Robertson and Joba today

  58. Cashmoney February 26th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    as a baseball fan, I think the most exciting prospect in NY baseball to watch this year are probably Wheelers and D’Arnaud on the mets in 13, i think our ones are about 1 year and half away from MLB realistically. Harvey looks raw but electric.. also worth keeping an eye on.

  59. blake February 26th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Jerkface says:
    February 26, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Hafners swung it good so far this spring.

    He will hit if he can play

  60. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    kd says:
    February 26, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    at work…. how did ramirez look? blake seemed to be impressed

    Very impressed with the stuff….very smooth gas from what I could tell and the ball looks heavy….sinks. He only threw one breaking ball that insane and it was ok but his CU is really good….for a first spring outing it was good. He needs innings and to keep on the field though

  61. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Joba looks pretty good, too. Was that a split?

  62. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    So does Joba know that he looks like a child molester with that mustache?

  63. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Jobber sporting a good slider

  64. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Joba with a nasty 3 pitch swinging K. Fastball-Curve for a strike, then curve or change for the K.

  65. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Joba nasty

  66. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Then, the next guy gets high heat for a K. Nice.

  67. kd February 26th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    thanks blake.

    let’s hop he can improve and stay healthy. i remember when they traded vizcaino for javy they said that Ramirez was a better prospect. great to see him getting big league camp exposure.

    smooth gas is a huge compliment. good to see him not overthrowing on arguably the biggest stage of his career

  68. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    February 26, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    Joba looks pretty good, too. Was that a split?

    Slider….his good slider looks almost like a split

  69. Warning Track Power February 26th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Imagine if Joba can be described on the mound as “nasty” in 2013? That would help
    secure a lot of wins.
    Mo, Robertson & Joba
    The 2013 version of The Nasty Boys

  70. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Wilson would be my back-up C.

  71. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Nice defensive play by Nunez at SS

  72. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Nunez hasn’t been bad in the field in the actual games so far. All at short of course.

  73. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Nice play by Nunez to end the inning.

  74. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    add in Ardsma and we have quite a pen in the late innings

  75. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Real nice play there by Nunie….so far so good defensively for him

  76. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Wilson would be my back-up C.
    —————-

    Well when you start your own team you can find him waiting for you in Scranton.

  77. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    @RiverAveBlues: Nice looking change-up from Jose Ramirez. http://t.co/LjaQK6nuSS

    For those who missed it…,here is the best CU he threw probably….great action and arm speed

  78. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    If Maruszak’s hitting last year wasn’t a one time thing, his versatility will make him a really good addition to future Yankee benches.

  79. jacksquat February 26th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Phillies guys just said Nunez is going to the WBC?

  80. kd February 26th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    thanks for the link blake

    he kinda reminds he of jose contreras with this mechanics, just 80 lbs lighter.

  81. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    I love .gifs.

    Just a random thought: If .gifs can be made this quickly please GIVE ME INSTANT REPLAY.

  82. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Also related to the gif: great pitch right there.

  83. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Cano with the sick play.

  84. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Jerkface says:
    February 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    Cano with the sick play.

    That play is not easy at all and he makes it look like a walk in the park….

  85. charlestonchew February 26th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Granderson’s issue most probably means that Gardner’s in CF to stay. After a month out there, I expect he’ll make the case that he should remain there. That would leave Curtis to slot into LF when he is done with his rehab in 10 weeks or so, barring setbacks.

    I don’t know about you guys, but I’m hoping that the replacement isn’t Diaz or Rivera, but that one of Mustelier, Almonte, and Mesa are given the chance to play. You never know what you’ll get when a player makes the jump to the majors, especially when the league hasn’t had time to adjust to them just yet.

    It can’t hurt and it’s not like our other options are any better. I want to see these young guys play. If we’re really going to be this team that’s partially built from within, we need to give our talented guys a taste of the bigs. Remember when we did that with Nova? The kid was so determined to get back up there that he actually improved his prospect status & overall pitching repertoire. I am hoping it’s Almonte or Mesa, because they’re exciting, but would be happy with Mustelier and his solid approach at the plate.

  86. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Ichiro having a nice day. Chopped an IF hit up the middle, sliced one past the 3Bman, and now just smacked a low line drive up the middle.

  87. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    These guys predicting Ichiro 1st ballot HOF, yet Piazza falls short?

  88. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Ybarra for all-star.

  89. Warning Track Power February 26th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    add in Ardsma and we have quite a pen in the late innings
    **************************************************************
    I need to see Aardsma on the mound for about 20 innings before I get excited
    about his ability.
    The guy sends out the most absurd tweets. He makes it very easy for me to dislike him

  90. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    2 Out, 2 Strike, MISTAKE.

  91. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Did the Yankees just put a shift on that lefty?

  92. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Murphey cranked that thing

  93. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Atta boy, JR!

  94. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Asche looks very good at third for the Phils, and J.R. really smoked that one!

  95. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Thats a bomb. 400+ ft.

  96. Yankee Trader February 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    JR Murphy over Cf wall for two run homer after Adonis Garcia hits single up the middle.

  97. Warning Track Power February 26th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    I can’t believe Joba is publicly stating that he can still start.
    What is this, April Fool’s Day??
    How about proving you can throw all 4 of those pitches for strikes when the games
    count and while you’re at it Joba, perform all 4 pitches at a high level for an entire season.

  98. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    Yea, the announcer saying it Just made it over the yellow line was hilarious.

  99. Yankee Trader February 26th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Garcia, Mustelier, Mesa, Almonte.

    Which two to go north rather than Diaz and Rivera?

  100. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    February 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm
    Asche looks very good at third for the Phils, and J.R. really smoked that one!

    Yea I mentioned him as a trade target a few times this winter had they been able to add and outfielder and traded Granderson

  101. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Adonis has a decent swing….good plate coverage ….

  102. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Big Nude is pitching. :)

  103. Warning Track Power February 26th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Yankee Trader February 26th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
    Garcia, Mustelier, Mesa, Almonte.

    Which two to go north rather than Diaz and Rivera?
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    I want the best players for the job to go up north. If history means anything, you know
    Girardi and the team will give the veterans every chance possible to make the roster and go north.
    Any of those young guys would probably have to hit over .400 this spring to be considered. Those players would have to play great defense as well.
    Not sure if that is possible, which is why I won’t get my hopes up about any of the young kids.

  104. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    “How about proving you can throw all 4 of those pitches for strikes when the games
    count and while you’re at it Joba, perform all 4 pitches at a high level for an entire season.”

    Kinda need a chance to do this right ? The Yanks him basically 1 season after 70 minor league innings then pulled the plug…..

  105. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    JR Ewing has left us, but the JR Murphy era has yet to begin

  106. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    From behind, this guy looks like Joba.

  107. PacoDooley February 26th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
    These guys predicting Ichiro 1st ballot HOF, yet Piazza falls short?
    ————————————–

    Don’t know what it has to do with Piazza, but Ichiro is a clear 1st ballot HOFer.

  108. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    From behind, this guy looks like Joba.

    I did a double take when I looked over, thought the same thing.

  109. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    It has to do with the voters.

  110. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Ok Dom Brown Bomb. 450+ ft?

  111. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Talked about smoked.

  112. blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    That’s why some of us keep talking about getting Dom Brown

  113. UnKnown February 26th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    There is Dom Brown for ya. Way gone.

    I don’t get why the Phillies don’t give this guy a true chance.

  114. jacksquat February 26th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    “Big Nude” just gave up a BIG homerun. Wow.

  115. Duh Innings II February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Riviaz = Juan Rivera + Matt Diaz

    ‘Say Riviaz is the outfielder until Granderson returns and Granderson returns on May 16 – smackdab in the middle of May. Granderson would miss the first 41 games, less with a rainout or rainouts.

    I would be thrilled if Riviaz posted 5 HR and 20 RBI in the first 41 games as that’s a 20 HR 80 RBI pace, the best we could possibly, reasonably hope for from both them. We cannot expect 2011-12 Granderson production from Riviaz or whoever wins the temporary job.

    3 HR 10 RBI from Rivera, 2 HR 10 RBI from Diaz is fine by me. If Rivera had a 2 HR 5 RBI game, he’d be only a homerun and 5 RBI shy of posting up his share of the production. If Diaz had a 2 HR 5 RBI game, he’d have hit his share of HR and driven in half his RBI share in one game alone.

    More than 5 HR and 20 RBI from Riviaz is gravy. 7 HR and 25 RBI through the first 41 games would be a 28 HR 100 RBI pace. Where is it written in stone Granderson would post 7 HR and 25 RBI let alone 5 HR and 20 RBI in the first 41 games? Of course he’d be more likely to do it than Riviaz, but that’s neither here nor there.

    If Riviaz posted 5 HR and 20 RBI, the Yanks probably lose at worst five solo homeruns in the first 41 games assuming Granderson would’ve posted 10 HR 25 RBI at best in the first 41 games (a 40 HR 100 RBI pace.)

    The ONLY way the Yanks should get Vernon Wells is if the Angels are willing to have the Yanks pay $6M ($3M this year, $3M net) for him, about all he’s worth at this point. I would not mind him as the veteran super fourth / insurance outfielder who posts at least 10 HR and 30 RBI a year andd plays defense. The Angels have ZERO leverage over the Yanks as Granderson’s injury isn’t season-ending.

    If Damon REALLY wants to be a Yankee again, he will suck it up by calling the Yanks to say he will accept a minor-league contract for a chance to compete for a job with the Yanks and the Yanks will most likely accept as the more options the better. He is NOT worth a guaranteed contract, not after his horrid 2012. He has ZERO leverage over the Yanks as again, Granderson’s injury isn’t season-ending.

  116. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Oh man, I’m so sad to be missing JR. I’ve been envisioning a JR/Sanchez tandem for a while now.

  117. PacoDooley February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    charlestonchew February 26th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    I don’t know about you guys, but I’m hoping that the replacement isn’t Diaz or Rivera, but that one of Mustelier, Almonte, and Mesa are given the chance to play. You never know what you’ll get when a player makes the jump to the majors, especially when the league hasn’t had time to adjust to them just yet.
    ——————————————————-

    I hear you – much like I didn’t want to see Ibanez in that role last year (and yes, he hit some huge home runs, but let’s face it, he was absolutely awful most of the year and so we might as well have had a younger guy in there getting the time).

  118. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Big Nude put one right down the pike for Big Dom.

  119. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    That’s why some of us keep talking about getting Dom Brown

    —————–

    Yep. No one would ever consider Brown to be the ideal guy, but in this climate it wouldn’t have been a bad idea to pursue him.

  120. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Come on…Dellin Betances for Dom Brown

  121. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    blake, Cash would consider Brown a glorified DH. No position = Not a run saver. Hairy out, run saver in.

  122. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Nude looks like Joba except he’s much worse

  123. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Oh man, I’m so sad to be missing JR. I’ve been envisioning a JR/Sanchez tandem for a while now.
    ——————–

    Yeah I bet you have…

  124. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Something tells me Zach Nuding is hoping no one is watching this game.

  125. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    JR Murphy is trending world wide on Twitter right now lol… good times!

  126. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Tommy Joseph > than Dom Brown

  127. Yankee Trader February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Nudging pitching batting practice.

  128. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Nude giving up some big shots…

  129. tomingeorgia February 26th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    How can Big Nude get further undressed?

  130. UnKnown February 26th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Eek, Neal struggles with a fly ball and then another 2 run bomb given up by Nude.

    He is getting undressed right now.

  131. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Oh man, I’m so sad to be missing JR. I’ve been envisioning a JR/Sanchez tandem for a while now.
    ——————–

    Yeah I bet you have…

    ——————–

    You think I’m lying lol?

    Romine lost all of last year to a back problem.. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think he’ll last long as the Yankees C.

    I need randy’s magic database of all of our past posts….. any chance we can get him to make that a Google doc ;)

  132. hardwired7 February 26th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Nude giving up some big shots…

    —————

    The Russians are back on meteor watch.

  133. Duh Innings II February 26th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Put it another way.

    Granderson returns for Game 42.

    Yanks are 24-17, about a 96-win pace.

    Rivera and Diaz have a big game each, Yanks win both games.

    They did a fine job holding down Granderson’s slot as they contributed to a twelfth of the wins.

  134. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Warning Track Power February 26th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Yankee Trader February 26th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
    Garcia, Mustelier, Mesa, Almonte.

    Which two to go north rather than Diaz and Rivera?
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    I want the best players for the job to go up north. If history means anything, you know
    Girardi and the team will give the veterans every chance possible to make the roster and go north.
    Any of those young guys would probably have to hit over .400 this spring to be considered. Those players would have to play great defense as well.
    Not sure if that is possible, which is why I won’t get my hopes up about any of the young kids.
    ———————

    The veterans will end up going north is my guess.

    The best thing that Almonte and Mesa have going for them is that they’re already on the 40 man roster (in addition to being more talented) – Mesa with a slight edge over Almonte because Mesa’s arbitration clock is already ticking.

    Mustellier and Neal would have to blow the doors off to go.

    Adonis Garcia has zero chance.

  135. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Did Joba just make random comments that he could still start or was it brought up somehow?

    It’d be weird for him to just state that.

  136. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Oh man, I’m so sad to be missing JR. I’ve been envisioning a JR/Sanchez tandem for a while now.
    ——————–

    Yeah I bet you have…

    ——————–

    You think I’m lying lol?

    Romine lost all of last year to a back problem.. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think he’ll last long as the Yankees C.

    I need randy’s magic database of all of our past posts….. any chance we can get him to make that a Google doc
    ——————

    Oh, you meant a catching tandem…

  137. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Nik Turley is starting tomorrow’s game right? Looking forward to that.

  138. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Oh you dirty, dirty boy.. I sometimes forget this is like a frat house and I’m that girl always doing the walk of Shame.

  139. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Big Nude was pretty awful when I saw him in Lakewood, as well. But he supposedly had improved his secondary pitches. Everyone can’t be a J-Ram.

    Envisioning a JR/Sanchez tandem isn’t exactly going out on a limb.

  140. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Oh you dirty, dirty boy.. I sometimes forget this is like a frat house and I’m that girl always doing the walk of Shame.
    ——————–

    Indeed.

  141. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    These promotions. A replica Gold Glove award, and now a wiffle ball kit.

  142. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Is this like a frat house? Not really. That would be pro sports daily.

  143. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    This Chucker is sneaky fast. The ball is getting on top of the hitters before they know it.

  144. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    The problem with taking Rivera and Diaz north is that you need to open up spots on the 40 man roster for them.

    You also are potentially taking Jayson Nix and/or Dan Johnson north too – also not on the 40 man roster.

    Two spots are easy to open up (put Cabral and Pineda on the 60-day DL) but getting more than that you’re going to have to start cutting people.

  145. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “The problem with taking Rivera and Diaz north is that you need to open up spots on the 40 man roster for them.”

    The other problem is they both suck

  146. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “The problem with taking Rivera and Diaz north is that you need to open up spots on the 40 man roster for them.”

    The other problem is they both suck
    ———————-

    Well right but I don’t think that’s going to be the impediment.

    Girardi, when asked about it, will say that even though the results aren’t there these are both guys with track records and they could have opted out of their minor league deals if they didn’t come north so this gives them a month to see them in real games and take a longer look.

    Or words to that effect.

  147. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Is Cabral going to be on the DL again? Is he starting the season on it?

  148. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Still recovering from… TJS? Whatever did he have?

  149. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    I think they are almost going to have to use a 40 man spot on one of Nix/Johnson. I think it’ll be Nix honestly, he worked last year and he looks good this year.

  150. Duh Innings II February 26th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    PacoDooley February 26th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    charlestonchew February 26th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    I don’t know about you guys, but I’m hoping that the replacement isn’t Diaz or Rivera, but that one of Mustelier, Almonte, and Mesa are given the chance to play. You never know what you’ll get when a player makes the jump to the majors, especially when the league hasn’t had time to adjust to them just yet.
    ——————————————————-

    I hear you – much like I didn’t want to see Ibanez in that role last year (and yes, he hit some huge home runs, but let’s face it, he was absolutely awful most of the year and so we might as well have had a younger guy in there getting the time).

    ————————————————————————————–

    Yeah cuz three guys with exactly TWO MLB PLATE APPEARANCES between them (Mustelier, Almonte, Mesa) both owned by one of them (Mesa) are SOOOOOO much better than two guys with 5820 MLB PAs (Rivera 3787 PA + Diaz 2033) who have hit .268 vs.RHP, .285 vs. LHP (Rivera) and .258 vs.RHP, .324 vs.LHP (Diaz) for their careers.

    Riviaz is the best current option for the Yanks. I think they’d be even better than Wells and/or Damon as Wells would have to be a two-year committment while Damon can’t hit for average or power or get on base. Rivera and Diaz can hit for power and hit lefties. They’re not glovemen but they are decent in the field and certainly better than Ibanez who cost the Yanks a game with his defense.

    If Riviaz was a year-long proposition, yes, I would have a problem with them but I don’t because they’re not a year-long proposition, they’re a first five to seven weeks of the season proposition, ideally five. Ideally Granderson comes back May 1, but I doubt it although who knows? Time has a way of healing you faster than you expect. I think May 16 (he misses 41 games) is more realistic.

    I say go with the veterans and see what they could do. What if Rivera reverts back to his 2004-07 form? Houston, we have a NICE problem haha. He’d be the Yanks DH after Granderson returns until (Rivera) cools off/reverts to 2008 on form, no doubt.

  151. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Of course, if you want to be an optimist, Juan Rivera doesn’t lend itself to any sort of “ie” at the end of either name “Juanie” “Riveraie” so he has that to overcome. Matt Diaz has no such problem as there’s the natural “Matty”. Of the two younger candidates – well Melky is already there. Zoilo has a lot to overcome…though I was happy to hear the praise Cashman lumped on him, including that they have him graded out as a future starter.

  152. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Having both Dan Johnson and Hafner go north would be a mistake. TEX plays all the time, making Johnson a gamble at 3B. 2 roster spots occupied by guys with bats and No position. PASS

  153. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Pinder Strongjaw. Good first batter.

  154. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Is Cabral going to be on the DL again? Is he starting the season on it?
    —————-

    Yeah I believe he’s on the same schedule as Pineda.

  155. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Is this like a frat house? Not really. That would be pro sports daily.

    ————-

    Lol, true story.

    Anyway, I still don’t get the context on this Joba thing.

  156. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    I think they are almost going to have to use a 40 man spot on one of Nix/Johnson. I think it’ll be Nix honestly, he worked last year and he looks good this year.
    ——————–

    They could clear a roster spot by trading Eppley (which makes sense to do given the depth in the pen) or, if Romine wins the catching job, DFA either Cervelli or Stewart.

    I think right now the bench would be:
    Nix, Cervelli, Diaz, Johnson with Nunez in the minors and Rivera in LF.

  157. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    “Amazingly, Joba Chamberlain has reignited the whole starter vs reliever controversy:

    “This is probably going to spark a bunch of stuff and (Yankees PR director Jason) Zillo is going to be mad at me, but it’s one of those things where it’s like, do you think you have the capability to start? Yes. Do I have four pitches that I can throw for a strike? Yes. Do I have two plus pitches in the bullpen that I can throw at any time? Yes.

    “I guess I’m trying to have my cake and eat it, too. I feel like I’m good enough to do both. I’ve proven that I can do both. Whatever it is, if I close, I want to be one or the other. I’ve been in the role of in the bullpen for a while, but am I confident that if I got the chance to start again somewhere – wherever that’s at – I could do it? Without a doubt. I just have to focus on this year and what I can do to improve to help this team win, continue to try to win ballgames for them.” 13 minutes ago

    http://sulia.com/channel/new-y.....ce=twitter

    :twisted:

  158. charlestonchew February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Just because you decide to start Mesa or Almonte in Left doesn’t mean that Diaz and Rivera are left off the team. I think one of them stays to platoon DH and play the occasional day in the OF. I just think one of the younger guys is a better fit given their solid defense (in the case of Mesa and Almonte) compared to Diaz and Rivera. Games can be lost on defense, too, and there’s no real indication that Diaz and Rivera would be that much better than Mesa or Almonte. It doesn’t hurt to try them in the position if they perform well this spring.

  159. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah. :)

  160. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Having both Dan Johnson and Hafner go north would be a mistake. TEX plays all the time, making Johnson a gamble at 3B. 2 roster spots occupied by guys with bats and No position. PASS
    —————-

    Johnson would be coming north to add thump to the bench, someone Girardi can turn to in the late innings to hit for Gardner or the catcher if he needs a homerun late.

  161. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    I’d easily keep Nunez on the 25 Man, and DFA Johnson

  162. jacksquat February 26th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Good luck starting for another team, Joba.

  163. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    WOW JR 400 ft line drive.

  164. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Yankeefem –

    Joba’s never going to start for the Yankees. Even money says this is his last year with the team.

    There will be some sentiment to re-sign him this winter, especially if Rivera retires given the fact that D-Rob will be a free agent following the 2014 season. But I don’t think he gets brought back – not with all the young power arms that the Yankees have.

  165. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    It would be hilarious if someone.. I dunno.. asked him about it.

    Joba would be dumb to say he couldn’t start.. he is an FA after this year.

  166. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Even money says this is his last year with the team.

    Considering he wants to start, I’d say its guaranteed.

  167. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    I could see a pitching starved team like the Twins or Rockies or somebody signing Joba for peanuts then making him a starter….unless Joba really has a great year in the pen and can get a good set up or closing job then career wise he should try to find a 1 year deal with a team that will give him a chance to start…..

  168. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Nice day JR

  169. UnKnown February 26th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Murp almost tied this thing up.

  170. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    I’d easily keep Nunez on the 25 Man, and DFA Johnson
    —————

    Well first of all Johnson’s not on the 40 man roster so you don’t have to DFA him.

    Second, they aren’t going to carry both Nunez and Nix on the bench – it’s redundant.

    Third, they’re going to want at least one LH bat on the bench.

  171. Duh Innings II February 26th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “The problem with taking Rivera and Diaz north is that you need to open up spots on the 40 man roster for them.”

    The other problem is they both suck
    ———————-

    Well right but I don’t think that’s going to be the impediment.

    Girardi, when asked about it, will say that even though the results aren’t there these are both guys with track records and they could have opted out of their minor league deals if they didn’t come north so this gives them a month to see them in real games and take a longer look.

    Or words to that effect.

    ———————————–

    Hey blake

    Rivera and Diaz don’t suck, they are what they are: two mid-thirties veteran reserve outfielders who will in all likelihood hold down Granderson’s job until Granderson returns because they have the experience, hit for power, and hit lefties very well, historically.

    If you give Granderson’s job to Mustelier and Almonte, you give it to two guys with ZERO MLB experience.

    If you give Granderson’s job to Mesa and either Mustelier or Almonte, you give it to two guys with TWO MLB PAs between them, both PAs owned by Mesa.

    None of the three combinations of outfielders is happening, or it is highly unlikely, unless one or two of the outfielders hit .400+ in spring training, and even then Rivera and/or Diaz may get the nod simply on their experience.

    Rivera and Diaz (Riviaz) have 5820 career PAs between them. Rivera’s career strikeout rate is .118, .103 last year and was 11 PAs shy of striking out once every ten PAs in 2012 (35 SO in 339 PAs.) That’s the kind of hitter the Yanks should have holding down Granderson’s job. Rivera makes contact plain and simple. Yes he has sucked since 2010 but he is still a career .274/.323/.443/.766 career hitter – not great but not bad. He’s only 34 – not a kid anymore but not an old man – and would still be only 34 after Granderson returns assuming the return is in May.

  172. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Even money says this is his last year with the team.

    Considering he wants to start, I’d say its guaranteed.
    —————

    The problem Joba’s going to face is that as a reliever he would probably get a pretty good contract.

    I don’t know what team would give him guaranteed money as a starter since he hasn’t done it in 4 years.

  173. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    I’m just using your bench options. Of course, I also would go with Stewart over Cervelli.

  174. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    “Rivera and Diaz don’t suck, they are what they are: two mid-thirties veteran reserve outfielders who will in all likelihood hold down Granderson’s job until Granderson returns because they have the experience, hit for power, and hit lefties very well, historically.”

    You realize that 2/3 of the games aren’t pitched by LHP and that Diaz and Rivera can’t play defense or hit RHP at all right? Even if they hit LHP ok then you’re gonna get terrible defense in all games…..and basically Stewarts offense in LF the other 2/3 of games

  175. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    I don’t know what team would give him guaranteed money as a starter since he hasn’t done it in 4 years.

    But he could parley 1 year as a starter into 10 x as much money. Unless Joba is insane this year as a reliever I don’t know he is getting double digits in a contract.

  176. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Duh Innings….

    The only way to get MLB experience is to play. You can’t hold it against Almonte or Mustellier that they haven’t gotten to the majors yet. Girardi will, but that doesn’t make it right.

  177. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    and hit lefties very well, historically

    But not recently, which is more important for a mid 30s guy than what you did 5 years ago. They only need 1 righty OF. Its not going to be Diaz and Rivera. Its going to be MAYBE 1 of them + someone already on the 40 man.

  178. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Out hit ‘em 12-5 and lose.

  179. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    “Rivera and Diaz don’t suck, they are what they are: two mid-thirties veteran reserve outfielders who will in all likelihood hold down Granderson’s job until Granderson returns because they have the experience, hit for power, and hit lefties very well, historically.”

    You realize that 2/3 of the games aren’t pitched by LHP and that Diaz and Rivera can’t play defense or hit RHP at all right? Even if they hit LHP ok then you’re gonna get terrible defense in all games…..and basically Stewarts offense in LF the other 2/3 of games
    —————–

    The defense won’t matter – the Yankees played Ibanez most of the season in LF last year – they’ll be willing to go with Diaz or Rivera out there for a month.

  180. Tackelberry February 26th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    I know Culver made the last out. Did he at least hit the ball hard?

  181. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Culver makes Ramiero Pena look dangerous at the plate

  182. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    I don’t know what team would give him guaranteed money as a starter since he hasn’t done it in 4 years.

    But he could parley 1 year as a starter into 10 x as much money. Unless Joba is insane this year as a reliever I don’t know he is getting double digits in a contract.
    —————-

    Well that’s the question too – how much money does a non-closer relief pitcher get on the open market? You might be right – Joba might be better off selling himself as a starter on a one year deal than taking slightly more money as a relief pitcher…it’ll be an interesting story.

  183. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    There is no way they play Diaz or Rjvera every day in LF or RF….they have to have a platoon partner for them

  184. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    I’m just using your bench options. Of course, I also would go with Stewart over Cervelli.
    ——————

    Outside of Dan Johnson there aren’t really any viable LH options in camp for the Yankee bench.

  185. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Yankeefem –

    Joba’s never going to start for the Yankees. Even money says this is his last year with the team.
    _____
    No, we would never let him start. But another team might. He would be far more valuable that way. I’ll bet it happens. Free Joba!

  186. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    There is no way they play Diaz or Rjvera every day in LF or RF….they have to have a platoon partner for them
    ——————–

    I hope you’re right. I hope they go with Almonte and stick either Rivera or Diaz on the bench rather than one on the bench and one in the field. I just don’t think it’s likely.

  187. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    If I’m Joba….I try to have a great season this year and explore if I can get a multi year deal as a Set up guy or closer for somebody.

    If not then i take a cheap deal from anybody that will let me start and try to establish myself as that

  188. DONNYBROOK February 26th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Even though he may swing left handed, I do Not consider Dan Johnson a LH “bat” off the bench.

  189. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    “If not then i take a cheap deal from anybody that will let me start and try to establish myself as that”

    I root for a team that should consider that…either, actually.

  190. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Almonte/Diaz would be tolerable

  191. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    “This is probably going to spark a bunch of stuff and (Yankees PR director Jason) Zillo is going to be mad at me, but it’s one of those things where it’s like, do you think you have the capability to start? Yes. Do I have four pitches that I can throw for a strike? Yes. Do I have two plus pitches in the bullpen that I can throw at any time? Yes.
    ///

    Jason Zillo is a shillo. But Joba is a stahtin’ pitchah, and I’m glad he’s starting to talk the talk.

    Yankeefem – did you see Jo-Ram deal? Not quite as good location as down in Lakewood, but he looked good. We’ll get him in Trenton soon!

    Joba also was on – all I was thinking was what a waste, and then you post these comments. LOL! I hope Joba becomes a pain in the butt in Rothschild and Girardi’s ear: I am a stahtin’ pitcha!!!

    Where’s Odds?

    I’m running out, but what a cool, vindicating quote for Joba, who has been the Sunday school boy a little too long, now. He’s been a good team guy but it’s time for him to claim what is right for him and professionally logical.

    Great day for Joba, and great day for Jo-Ram! :D :D :D

  192. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Btw, interesting that Joba said the PR guy “would kill him,” even though in jest, there must have been a muzzle on Joba regarding speaking about wanting to start.

    He’s been a good soldier. Glad he finally spoke up. I hope his agent keeps on him about this, as well.

    Good one, guys and gals. :D

  193. Chip February 26th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    If I’m Joba….I try to have a great season this year and explore if I can get a multi year deal as a Set up guy or closer for somebody.

    If not then i take a cheap deal from anybody that will let me start and try to establish myself as that
    ———————

    I just don’t think a team will give him any guaranteed money to start. Would he be willing to take a minor league deal at this point? Or a low base salary with lots of incentives for games started?

  194. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    How can no one tell me (I mean the journalists, not you guys) why Joba even brought this up lol…?

    If he brought it up without being prompted, I’m gonna go ahead and say it’s purely regarding his contract. If someone asked him about it I’m having a hard time understanding the media reaction right now.

  195. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah.

    ———————-

    :D our boy still believes he can start

  196. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    “I just don’t think a team will give him any guaranteed money to start. Would he be willing to take a minor league deal at this point? Or a low base salary with lots of incentives for games started?”

    I think they woukd for sure cause they woukd know that even if starting didnt work out they could move him back to the pen and have a useful reliever

  197. Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    I just don’t think a team will give him any guaranteed money to start. Would he be willing to take a minor league deal at this point? Or a low base salary with lots of incentives for games started?

    ——————–

    If he wants to prove to ppl he can start than I think he’ll take it

  198. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    If you could sign Joba for 3-5 million for one year then try him as a starter then you’ve lost nothing really if it doesn’t work out….you still have a reliever at a reasonable price

  199. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah.

    ———————-

    :D our boy still believes he can start
    ///

    :D

    Group hug.

    Now put him where he belongs!

    I’m out, but what a great piece of text! Later, guys.

  200. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Against All Odds February 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Jobber is a stahtin’ pitchah.

    ———————-

    :D our boy still believes he can start
    ___
    Our boy’s heart and arm both tell him it is so. :)

  201. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    I just don’t think a team will give him any guaranteed money to start. Would he be willing to take a minor league deal at this point? Or a low base salary with lots of incentives for games started?

    I think he definitely gets 4 million / 1 year to start somewhere MINIMUM. The worst case scenario is you have a reliever. We’ll have to talk about this more at the end of the season when the picture is clearer, but non-guaranteed? LoL come on.

  202. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    If you could sign Joba for 3-5 million for one year then try him as a starter then you’ve lost nothing really if it doesn’t work out….you still have a reliever at a reasonable price
    _____
    Exactamente!

  203. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    If Joba finishes he season healthy and with mid- to high-90s velo, a biting slider, and some command, he is going get some good offers. It will suck if he leaves.

  204. Jerkface February 26th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Worse PITCHERS than Joba get guaranteed money every year to start. The questionable status of his ability to start will not force him to take non-guaranteed money in a minor league sense. He may have a lot of incentives (both ways: games finished/games started, I can think of at least 1 guy who had a contract like that before but cant get the name )

  205. Russell Munson February 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    You know who had zero MLB experience prior to last year? Bryce Harper. WTF were the Nats doing giving him playing time when they could have signed Dave Winfield who has 12358 PA?

  206. theREALkevin February 26th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Yanks pulled the plug on Joba as a starter way too early…. I really hope another team gives him a chance to be a SP again. I’ll never forget that game he started in Fenway against Beckett. Idk how anyone who saw that game would give him as little chance to continue to start as the Yankees did

  207. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    “I’ll never forget that game he started in Fenway against Beckett. Idk how anyone who saw that game would give him as little chance to continue to start as the Yankees did”

    That game was awesome.

  208. blake February 26th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Russell Munson says:
    February 26, 2013 at 3:55 pm
    You know who had zero MLB experience prior to last year? Bryce Harper. WTF were the Nats doing giving him playing time when they could have signed Dave Winfield who has 12358 PA?

    Special special player though ….

  209. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Kev, I saw almost every Joba start in New York. In OYS, I would move down from Tiers to sit in M1 or M3 just to see him pitch. The kid had the stuff. What a waste.

  210. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Mesa doesn’t look like he can hit to me. His swing is too long.

    I like Diaz better than Rivera,, but we will probably end up with both since the team motto is “Veterans are Us”.

  211. J. Alfred Prufrock February 26th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    RealKev,

    That was memorable and I still have it on a VHS somewhere.

    That’s what’s so frustrating – a start like that, among many good ones in 2008, and you just scratch your head that they shut the door on him.

    Ironically, they traded Montero for a pitcher who had a similar type first year (and one with less of an arsenal), and were admonishing people that Pineda “needs time” to develop, etc.

    Now I am really out. Wish I could stick around for this discussion, have to read backwards later. Good day.

  212. Wave Your Hat February 26th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    I can’t stand even speculating about who the third outfielder will be.

  213. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Joba will sign somewhere he can start and prove himself capable of making the huge money. I would. He will be gone next year, I am quite confident.

  214. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Pruf, right back at ya. I’d travel to an opposing park if I had to to see Joba start. And yes, I can’t wait until we have J-Ram in Trenton, and as I have been saying, watch out, JR’s great AB’s are going to turn into some nice O stats this season. Go Thunder!

  215. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Obviously Harper is a different breed altogether, but if the point is experience is not all that matters, I agree.

    It is pathetic if they have no outfielders in their system worth keeping on the roster. Instead, we get leftovers we saved from working at the grocery store.

  216. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    @BryanHoch: Cashman shoots down idea of Johnny Damon coming to camp; says “we need somebody who can play the outfield every day.”

    Good then Diaz and Rivera are out too right

  217. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    austinmac, Mesa is what he is. He can hit a fastball a long way when he makes contact, but he is going to K a lot and whiff on breaking balls. I haven’t seen his AAA AB’s, but that is the Trenton Mesa that I saw game in and game out.

  218. yankeefeminista February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    @BryanHoch: Cashman shoots down idea of Johnny Damon coming to camp; says “we need somebody who can play the outfield every day period.”

  219. Rich in NJ February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    They put Ibanez in the OF.

  220. austinmac February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Don’t you bet Murphy has a big smile on his face today? These kids wait a lifetime for moments to show their stuff.

  221. Shame Spencer February 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    :arrow:

  222. blake February 26th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    @eboland11: Cashman: “I love Johnny Damon, he was an awesome Yankee when we had him. But that was a while ago. It’s not something we’re going to pursue”

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