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Girardi says it’s possible Hughes won’t be ready for season

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 27, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Phil Hughes is expecting a few more days of pool workouts, and he has no idea when he’ll pick up a baseball. This afternoon, Joe Girardi acknowledged that Hughes might not be ready in time to open the season.

“It’s possible,” Girardi said. “I think it’s too early to tell that, though.”

Hughes needs to be stretched out to roughly 75 pitches this spring, which should take at least four starts. There’s time for him to get that many, but there’s little wiggle room, especially with Girardi saying Hughes probably won’t start a game for another two weeks.

“I couldn’t even tell you (how many spring starts are necessary),” Hughes said. “I need as many as I would have gotten (without the injury). The plan is setup because you need them. I’m a guy that needs the work. If I get to 70 pitches and they feel like I’m ready to go, then I’m ready to go.”

The Yankees will need a fifth starter no later than April 7. For Hughes to get four starts — pitching every fifth day — before April 7, he will need to make his first spring start no later than March 18. That’s two weeks from Monday.

“Every day is worrisome when I’m not throwing,” Hughes said. “It’s a double-edged sword. I don’t want to push this thing and have it become a recurring issue. I want to make sure it’s over and done with, but at the same time, every day is a day lost.”

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139 Responses to “Girardi says it’s possible Hughes won’t be ready for season”

  1. blake February 27th, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    Arg

  2. Warning Track Power February 27th, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Jerk
    We are on the same team. You and I just disagree on how much success Joba
    can have as a starter.
    Of course there is a chance that Joba will start for another team and do well.
    That is being very optimistic.
    There is also a very good chance Joba will fail as a starter on another team or with the
    Yankees?
    Last year and again this year there is no need for Joba to start. There are plenty of available starters that are probably ahead of him.

  3. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Listen, from what I have seen in Joba, Nova and Hughes, the least amount of faith I have in a starter is if Joba was on the mound.

    ——————–

    But yet he has equal numbers to Hughes and Nova

  4. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Last year and again this year there is no need for Joba to start. There are plenty of available starters that are probably ahead of him.

    yea I really enjoyed watching Freddy Garcia instead of a home grown Yankee like Joba :x

  5. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 5:09 pm

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    Gosh, I love this place (by love I mean dislike)

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    This coming from a guy that’s had more incarnations than Jesus ;)

  6. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    And I cannot even comment on this post lol… I wonder if we’ll see Betsy drop in at all.

  7. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Bad news for Hughes. Bad new for the Yankees. Good news for Nova/Phelps.

    They could always switch Joba and Hughes’ roles…

  8. MG February 27th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 5:06 pm
    MG February 27th, 2013 at 5:01 pm
    Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
    As for Chamberlain, his last 4 starts in 2009 before the pitch counts and innings limits took over weren’t good-he gave up 19 earned runs in 20 innings.

    —————–

    The rules kicked in right after his 3 terrific starts.
    ———————
    not true, he threw the same number of pitches in those next 4 starts (90-105) that he had thrown during the whole season before that.

    —————–

    They gave him a long break right after the 3 game dominance and then short rest long rest, short rest, and then the 3-4 inning relief starts.
    ——————
    not really, those four starts have similar rest to his earlier schedule, including one where he had 8 days and threw a great game. Here is the game log: http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2009

  9. Abe Peterham February 27th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    These guys stretch at all during off season? Ughhh.

    Re Joba, if yanks are gonna use him in the pen this season , then get rid of him cause there isn’t a need for a reliever of his stature , they are dumb, pure and simple…
    Then they’ll look for a starter and a pen guy, makes no sense… They can afford him financially in both spots / need a starter more next year, so let the man start for the love of G

  10. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    “This coming from a guy that’s had more incarnations than Jesus ”

    I think I saw Stoneburner’s image in a potato chip once.

  11. MTU February 27th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    I wouldn’t rush Hughes.

    He’s ready when he’s ready.

    We have the depth to cover a few starts.

    Make sure he is 100% first.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 27th, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    START JOBA!!!

    Back to the Arias trial.

  13. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    It’s not the same thing

  14. jmills February 27th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Still crazy after all these years :)

  15. yankeefeminista February 27th, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    Ugh. In the meanwhile, Phelps and Nova can both start. I think we don’t need a 5th starter until mid April.

  16. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Ugh. In the meanwhile, Phelps and Nova can both start. I think we don’t need a 5th starter until mid April.

    April 7th. As Chad says in the blurb.

  17. jmills February 27th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

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  18. jacksquat February 27th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    Bad news for Hughes. Bad new for the Yankees. Good news for Nova/Phelps.

    They could always switch Joba and Hughes’ roles…

    I’d love that because people would stop whining about Joba not starting.

    But then they would whine because Hughes isn’t starting and management would be hurting his income potential by making him a reliever.

  19. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    “I’d love that because people would stop whining about Joba not starting.”

    That sounds like a whine.

  20. jmills February 27th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Sorry, I quickly took Hepsworth for Hepworth.

  21. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Joba was not an effective starter. He is a much better pitcher out of the pen.
    Hughes had a great year as a reliever, but he’s also been good as a starter.
    Nova again has been a “good” starter and he also finished poorly to end last season.
    With that being said, both Nova and Hughes have performed far better than Joba as
    a starter to date.

    By what are you measuring this? Because no, its absolutely not true. Joba was given 1.3 seasons as a starter. Hughes has been given 5 or 6? Joba as a starter: Career 4.18 ERA Hughes: 4.68 Nova: 4.41

    Why was Hughes allowed to keep starting after 2008? Why is Nova still in there after 2012?

    ANY pitcher is better in the bullpen. Hughes was a better reliever than Joba ever was out of the pen in 09!

    He was a kid, who only got 1 full LIMITED season of starting thanks to the Joba Rules and the Yankees inability to build up innings for their pitchers. He should have been a starter in 2010.
    ///

    That’s when the training wheels would have come off. Instead, they pulled that kangaroo competition – for whose benefit I still can’t figure out – and had already traded for Javy.

    WTP: You going to compare Nova with Joba?

    Do you realize Nova got something like 580 minor league innings?

    That Chamberlain pitched like 88? That he never was even returned to the minors, even though at the time they had like 3 options left? He never was sent down again after 2007.

    Equal opportunity to develop as starters? Don’t think so.

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    Anybody with a garden is really haapy with the slush up here. Bodes well for the tulips, the roses, and whatever else you have in the ground! :D

  23. jmills February 27th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Haapy means happy dontcha’ kno! ?

  24. jacksquat February 27th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    So do I get it now, Hughes and Joba should start, and Nova should go to the pen?

    Or all 3 should start and either Pettitte or Kuroda shouldn’t be on the team?

  25. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    So do I get it now, Hughes and Joba should start, and Nova should go to the pen?

    Hughes & Joba should have been starting. Where players who came after and who still have options fit in can’t be discussed. You’re looking at an alternate reality situation. If Joba and Hughes are staples of the rotation it changes how the team is constructed.

    Maybe they don’t need to spend 15 million on a 39 year old Kuroda. Maybe they don’t need Pettitte to un-retire.

  26. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    jacksquat February 27th, 2013 at 5:46 pm
    So do I get it now, Hughes and Joba should start, and Nova should go to the pen?

    Or all 3 should start and either Pettitte or Kuroda shouldn’t be on the team?

    ——————-

    More like the Yankees should have been smart and not limit themselves to a small number of options. They traded for Javy who didn’t have a long term future with the team and bombed the second time. They held a fake competition in ST and then put Joba in the pen because they once again assumed the kids would be ready and save the day. Fast forward to 2014 Hughes, Nova, Andy, and Hiro could all be gone, Dellin and Manny still need to develop, Phelps depending how he does in 2013 will either show he’s real or is bouncing back from a bad yr, Pineda will still be developing, and the other guys are too young.

  27. champ809 February 27th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    I’d venture to say that the Yanks are the only organization in the sport who would have put Joba in the pen based on his track record as a starter coming into the 2010 season.

    This was a guy who was throwing 99-102gas 100-105 pitches into games.

    The other brilliant screwup was the idea that Gen. Joe and Eiland cameup with to turn Verlander into Carpenter. Joba was and is a flametrowing,swing and miss strikeout pitcher in the Verlander mold and they decided to “re-make” him into a pitch to contact, sinkerballer type pitcher in the mold of a Carpenter.Brilliant!

  28. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    Champ809,

    Excellent post in last thread.

  29. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    And Girardi is here when the next wave of kids come around.

    http://www.wrestleenigma.com/w.....mbrose.jpg

  30. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    Remember when some of us were accused of whining about Eiland? And we were told we were nuts. Seems like Cashman may have been whining about him too.

  31. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    Using the word “whiner” dead giveaway of a whiner in action :)

  32. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    Not Nova he is here longer sorry about that

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Seems like Cashman may have been whining about him too.
    ///

    Is there something new about Cashman on Eiland? He fired him, but I hadn’t heard anything else, really, except the cryptic “He knows what this is about,” comment.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    RAB comments section is basically unreadable. The guys on there seem like frustrated comedians, trying to out snark and out-edge each other. Too bad – those guys who put that thing together deserve a better crowd.

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