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Postgame notes: “I just didn’t have it”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 27, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Even by early spring training standards, today’s 10-7 Yankees loss was an ugly. The Yankees made five errors, one of them a Corban Joseph throw that sailed deep into the stands. Their seven runs came in two innings, in between which the Yankees went six scoreless without every putting more than one runner on base.

But the unwanted spotlight shined brightest on left-handed pitcher Nik Turley.

Coming off a terrific High-A season, with a new spot on the 40-man roster, Turley made his first spring start and couldn’t get out of the first inning. He allowed five runs, gave up three hits, threw two wild pitches and got only one out. Beyond the unforgiving stats, Turley bounced two curveballs several feet in front of home plate, threw another pitch behind a batter, and sent a pickoff attempt well into foul territory.

“I just didn’t have it,” Turley said. “I didn’t know where the ball was going, and that’s never good. Then you start getting frustrated and you start to overthrow.”

Turley was quiet but direct in talking about his disappointing start. He’d made his spring debut on Saturday in Orlando — the Yankees spring opener — and allowed one hit with one strikeout through one scoreless inning. He was good that day, leaving little reason to believe something like this was coming.

“There were some nerves,” Turley said. “But there were nerves in Orlando. I can’t blame it on that. I pitched well in Orlando, and I felt the same way over there. I’m just disappointed. … You can’t take it back. I wish I could, I wish I could start over.”

Turley said Andy Pettitte and Joba Chamberlain each pulled him aside after the rough outing. Joe Girardi also made a point of talking to him.

“He said just try to take the positives from it, as hard as it can be to do that,” Turley said. “You need to learn from it and move on. He said that he likes my stuff, he likes my makeup, and he knows I can do well. I just need to move on.”

• The Yankees will have big leaguers starting the next three days. David Phelps makes his second start on Thursday, Hiroki Kuroda will make his first start on Friday and Ivan Nova will start Saturday. Girardi said it’s likely Andy Pettitte will throw a simulated game on Sunday. Someone else will pitch that day’s actual game against Boston.

• Although Kevin Youkilis feels ready to play, he’ll sit out again tomorrow. Girardi said Youkilis will take batting practice tomorrow and won’t play until Friday at the earliest. “I know he’s going to want to play Friday,” Girardi said. “I’ll see what Stevie (Donohue) says. I’m probably not going to take him Sunday. Maybe I’ll just do it on Saturday.”

• Girardi said Youkilis would be playing right now if this were the regular season. There are no real concerns about him, just playing it incredibly safe.

• Talked to Nick Goody for the first time today. He said further tests revealed nothing more serious than a sprained ankle suffered in that car wreck a few days ago. He played catch on his knees today and did 21 minutes on a stationary bike. Goody said he can already put full weight on his ankle and he feels confident he’ll be able to get into a spring training game. “I’m optimistic and they’re optimistic,” Goody said.

• Robinson Cano said he’ll take tomorrow off then play Friday and Saturday before leaving for the World Baseball Classic on Sunday. “I’m going to be away, but I’m going to keep playing,” Cano said. “The only difference is I’m preparing earlier than what I used to.

• This is worth it’s own note: Girardi referred to Clay Rapada as “Rapper” today. I’m only the messenger.

• Speaking of Rapper, he and Boone Logan have yet to get in a game. Girardi said the team is simply taking things slowly with the two left-handers, especially Logan. “They’re both fine,” Girardi said. “Boonie has to do some BPs still. Boonie, seems like every spring we have to shut him down for about a week anyway, so we just took it slow.”

• Brett Gardner’s strong start to spring training continued with a walk and a three-run triple in his first two at-bats. “First triple in the past two years,” Gardner said.

• Girardi was impressed with Slade Heathcott’s first appearance in the starting lineup. “Hit a ball pretty hard, was exciting on the bases. I was pleased,” Girardi said.

• Getting another turn at third base — he has yet to play second this spring — Corban Joseph was happy to have a tough groundball hit to his right side in the fourth inning. His strong throw to first got the runner by a half step and brought a bit of redemption after Joseph’s only other throw of the day sailed well over first base and deep into the stands. Joseph said he never got his feet set on that throw, rushing because he thought he had less time than he actually did. It’s all part of the adjustment process, Joseph said. He’s getting a lot of time at third base spring, but he hasn’t played very very often in recent years, and he’s still getting used to it.

• Of today’s five errors, Jayson Nix’s bad throw in the first was the only one charged to a projected big leaguer. “You’ve got young kids,” Girardi said. “They’re going to battle some nerves out there. They haven’t had a whole lot of games on YES.”

• A big ninth-inning rally actually brought the winning run to the plate in the ninth inning. Kyle Roller had the big hit in the inning and Tyler Austin drew a walk to load the bases, but Adonis Garcia grounded to third to end it. … Juan Rivera’s double and Gardner’s triple were the Yankees only extra-base hits. … Both Chris Stewart and Francisco Cervelli had hits. Stewart made a brutally bad throw to second base (didn’t count as an error because no one advanced). … Zoilo Almonte had another hit. … Mark Montgomery made his spring debut with a scoreless inning. He walked one and struck out one.

• Phelps said he expects to pitch three innings tomorrow, but the Yankees haven’t told him an exact plan. He threw one bullpen between starts, just like his normal in-season routine.

• Tony Pena will manage tomorrow’s split-squad road game against the Astros. Girardi joked that it was preparation for the World Baseball Classic (Pena is the manager for Team Dominican Republic).

Associated Press photos (might not have been an AP photographer here today, these are all older pictures)

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241 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I just didn’t have it””

  1. jacksquat February 27th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:09 pm
    Using the word “whiner” dead giveaway of a whiner in action

    The great “no I’m not, you are!” defense of a 5 year old. :roll:

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Keep diggin’. :D

  3. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
    Seems like Cashman may have been whining about him too.
    ///

    Is there something new about Cashman on Eiland? He fired him, but I hadn’t heard anything else, really, except the cryptic “He knows what this is about,” comment.

    ———–

    Cashman has said nothing but the belief is Eiland had a drinking problem.

  4. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:24 pm
    RAB comments section is basically unreadable. The guys on there seem like frustrated comedians, trying to out snark and out-edge each other. Too bad – those guys who put that thing together deserve a better crowd.

    —————–

    It does have a room full of comedians feel to it. That’s not to say some members are terrible but it’s funny how it evolves into one person trying to out joke the other.

  5. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    Odds,

    I do remember that. I just thought Rich was alluding to something I hadn’t seen.

  6. FiretheUMPIRE February 27th, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    If you whine you’re going to get called out on it. Everyone knows dam well if they call out someone who is whining, that in itself is not whining. It’s pointing a finger and saying “Look everybody, it’s a crybaby”.

  7. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    “The great “no I’m not, you are!” defense of a 5 year old. ”

    From someone who constantly whines complains about every single criticism of Cashman by falsely claiming that no whiner one who rationally criticizes him ever gives him credit for anything.

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    It does have a room full of comedians feel to it. That’s not to say some members are terrible but it’s funny how it evolves into one person trying to out joke the other.
    ///

    Yeah, it’s also not my kind of humor, so I don’t really enjoy their schtick. But that wouldn’t be so bad if they actually had baseball discussion. There seems to be very little actual Yankee talk. Weird.

  9. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    “It does have a room full of comedians feel to it. That’s not to say some members are terrible but it’s funny how it evolves into one person trying to out joke the other.”

    The Cashman apologists here would love it there.

  10. FiretheUMPIRE February 27th, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    Simple solution. Cut and freakin’ paste blurbs from RAB and solicit discussion in forums and comments sections outside of RAB.

  11. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    The Cashman apologists here would love it there.
    ///

    Heh.
    ///

    I did call him that, incidentally. Boy, nailed that one. :D

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    Somebody was suggesting Joba sign with KC.

    Can anyone see Joba willfully reuniting with Dave Eiland? I can’t.

  13. FiretheUMPIRE February 27th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    Like this:

    From RAB…

    Girardi says Hughes may not be ready for start of season

    By Mike Axisa

    This isn’t the most surprising news in the world, but Joe Girardi told reporters this afternoon that Phil Hughes might not be ready for the start of the season due to a bulging disk in his back. “It’s possible,” said the skipper to Chad Jennings. “I think it’s too early to tell that, though.”

    Hughes, 26, completed his round of anti-inflammatory medication and is working out in a pool these days. He isn’t quite ready to pick up a ball and there simply might not be enough time left in Spring Training to fully stretch him out for the season. If Hughes doesn’t make his first Grapefruit League start in about two weeks, it’s unlikely he’ll be able to start for the Yankees the first time through the rotation in April. · (15) ·

    Thoughts? Comments? Whines?

  14. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    The Cashman apologists here would love it there.

    ————–

    Oh yea they would fit right in lol. Everything is peachy over there

  15. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    It does have a room full of comedians feel to it. That’s not to say some members are terrible but it’s funny how it evolves into one person trying to out joke the other. ///

    Yeah, it’s also not my kind of humor, so I don’t really enjoy their schtick. But that wouldn’t be so bad if they actually had baseball discussion. There seems to be very little actual Yankee talk. Weird

    ———–

    They do a lot of Yankee talk on there. I’ll say what I said before they do an awesome job and Mike is great when it comes to content but some articles I can do without like Freddy Garcia: What went wrong.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    Odds, whenever I look below the entry, I see little actual baseball dialogue. I do think the guys do a good job who write the stuff, not that I’m always in agreement with them. I maybe have missed the genuine dialogue…

    I miss Freddy’s 500 “you know”s. :D

  17. Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    There are good dialogues from time to time especially when its a heated debate

  18. joeman February 27th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    anyone here live in Jersey & are old enough…..online gambing, I’m a little jealous but sure CT will follow

  19. joeman February 27th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Against All Odds February 27th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock February 27th, 2013 at 6:19 pm
    Seems like Cashman may have been whining about him too.
    ///

    Is there something new about Cashman on Eiland? He fired him, but I hadn’t heard anything else, really, except the cryptic “He knows what this is about,” comment.

    ———–

    Cashman has said nothing but the belief is Eiland had a drinking problem.

    ——————————————————
    also had a few managers who like to take naps on the bench

  20. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    @injuryexpert

    Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are getting bigger, while Lance Lynn is getting smaller. What’s it mean? http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....ers-is-not

  21. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    What a silly article. At the beginning Will Caroll compares Trout to Miguel Cabreras listed weight of 240 (when its obvious he is closer to 300) and then after the picture jump he says : “Almost no one relies on listed weights”.

    Come onnnn, reconcile it. Bleacher report stinks.

  22. blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are getting bigger, while Lance Lynn is getting smaller. What’s it mean? http://bleacherreport.com/arti…..ers-is-not …

    Reports are that Trout is really only 4 lbs heavier than he was at the end of 2012 now….he will likely be the same weight as last year before the season starts.

  23. blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Yes there is no way Miggy weighs 240

  24. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Middlebrooks for the Red Sox possibly nasty hand injury according to PABE.

  25. kd February 27th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    injuries happen. it’s unfortunate but luck does play a role in success.

  26. blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    @MikeFerrinSXM: Will Middlebrooks just swung & missed and left the game grabbing his right hand. #RedSox.

  27. blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    The Sox can have Youk back for Bogarts

  28. blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Sounds like a Jose Bautista type injury….and those can suck

  29. blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    @jasoncollette: Has Johnny Damon said he doesn’t mind playing 3B in Boston yet?

  30. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    blake February 27th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    @jasoncollette: Has Johnny Damon said he doesn’t mind playing 3B in Boston yet?

    ———————–

    Hehehehehehe…

  31. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    One thing about Damon at 3B. No one sitting along the 1B line would be in any danger.

  32. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Crap, now I have to root against Rapada making the team so as to best avoid another stupid nickname.

    Seriously, I think this is the biggest thing that is going to work against Zoilo Almonte getting the job of filling in for Granderson…unless Girardi decides to start calling him Montie.

  33. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Zoilie.

    Bet on it.

  34. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Zoilie.

    Bet on it.
    —————

    True – Montie has to be saved for Montgomery anyway.

  35. Tar February 27th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    So I haven’t been able to watch a single game yet. I know it’s really early, but any pleasant surprises so far? Especially interested if anybody is impressed with any of the youngsters. Thanks

  36. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    Tar February 27th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    So I haven’t been able to watch a single game yet. I know it’s really early, but any pleasant surprises so far? Especially interested if anybody is impressed with any of the youngsters. Thanks
    —————————-
    I don’t know if he can hit or not given regular play in the majors but Almonte does seem to have an idea of what he’s doing at the plate.

    Cervelli and Gardner have both looked very good.

    I liked the Kahne to Montgomery set up we saw today

    Ramirez looked very good yesterday

  37. Tar February 27th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Thanks Chip

    Cevelli has looked good catching or hitting or both?

  38. Tar February 27th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    “Zoilie”

    I would like to see Joe incorporate Blake’s auto correct…… Zoological. Or Zoo for short.

  39. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Cevelli has looked good catching or hitting or both?

    Both actually, and I think he’ll hit a bit in the majors regardless of what he shows in ST, but really at the plate he has snapped off 2 very good throws to catch guys stealing. He is setting up behind the plate well. Its pretty noticeable, so when you finally get to see him take a look and see how it compares to your memory of him in 2010/2011.

    Chip’s list is pretty good. I thought so far of the hitters: Hafner, Ichiro, Gardner have looked great. JR Murphy had an excellent day yesterday you can see video of that on mlb.com. Almonte looks like he could be a viable fillin.

    Flores, Heathcott, and Austin have all shown a little bit of why they are so highly regarded, but nothing outstanding yet.

    Ramirez was impressive starting the other day. Montgomery looked good. Pinder looked good.

    Nunez has actually been playing some impressive defense.

  40. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    At least I have never heard of an MLB team doing this:

    NFL says it will investigate report that at least 1 team at the scouting combine asked draft prospect about his sexual orientation – @espn

  41. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    Gardner’s been by far the most impressive hitter in camp so far. He has shown all of the things that make him a good hitter: patience, ability to work deep counts, ability to foul off pitches, and then the versatility in bunting / hitting sharp grounders / line drives.

    Of the likely starters, he looks the most ‘ready’ at the moment. I believe he wouldn’t skip a beat if the season started today. Ichiro looked a little similar, though not as impressive overall, and I suspect he could wake up any day and hit the ball where he pleases.

  42. Tar February 27th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Very cool, thanks JF.

  43. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    Nuno had a bunch of strike outs the other day, you can see why he’d carve up the minors because minor leaguers probably can’t handle his command. Shows some promise of maybe a back end lefty / or pretty good lefty reliever. He’ll be one step below NYY in AAA this year I guess.

  44. Tar February 27th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    I’ve already gone on record as saying GGBG is going to break out this year ( sorry Chip).

    I think Gardner with confidence is going to be a monster. Nice to see him off to a hot start.

  45. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Good recap, JF. I’m looking forward to seeing the games Saturday and Sunday. I’ve only gotten to see one so far.

  46. blake February 27th, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    “Gardner’s been by far the most impressive hitter in camp so far. He has shown all of the things that make him a good hitter: patience, ability to work deep counts, ability to foul off pitches, and then the versatility in bunting / hitting sharp grounders / line drives.”

    Agreed….he looks fantastic

  47. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 27th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    Flores, Heathcott, and Austin have all shown a little bit of why they are so highly regarded, but nothing outstanding yet.

    *******

    To quote Lewis Black:

    “If it wasn’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college.”

    From Lewis Black, it’s the kind of saying that has no conceivable logical explanation and can cause your head to explode if you think about it for any significant amount of time.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com.....%20college

  48. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    In the limited time we saw him in Sept/the playoffs, Gardner already looked like a guy that knew he needed to come out firing on all cylinders.

  49. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    I think Gardner has been on the verge of putting it together for the last two years. He just has trouble staying on the field, or being 100% healthy when he is on the field.

  50. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Jerkface -

    I forgot about Murphy but yeah that was some shot he had yesterday.

    Hafner looks like he dropped a lot of weight. Hopefully that helps him stay healthy.

  51. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    I don’t know if anyone caught Chris Stewart’s interview with Marakovitz during the game; she asked him about Nik Turley…listening to him talk…this guy has future manager written all over him.

  52. Shame Spencer February 27th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    @PaulONeillYES

    Wow great day! Got a checkmark and my son got into med school!!! I feel like I hit a home run

    ——————–

    Must have inherited his brains from his mother’s side of the family.

    Yay Paul!

  53. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Backing up to the last thread – I feel bad for Hughes(ie) but this is why he can’t be given a long term deal. Guy is 26 and can’t stay healthy.

    As for Joba getting a starting look; someone mentioned that CJ Wilson returned to starting after a 4 year stint in the pen; but the difference is that Texas didn’t sign him as a free agent after those 4 years relieving and then make him a starter. That’s the leap of faith some team would have to take with Joba. I could see a team that’s starved for starters – Kansas City maybe – bringing him in for 2 years at $10m total, maybe some incentives based on starts. If he works out, then they have a potential top third of the rotation starter, if not, he wouldn’t be making enough to preclude putting him in the pen.

  54. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Paul O’Neil’s kid is going to med school….sh*t I feel old.

  55. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    “this guy has future manager written all over him.”

    I would think it’s a near certainty that Stewart would be a better manager than a catcher.

  56. Jerkface February 27th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    someone mentioned that CJ Wilson returned to starting after a 4 year stint in the pen; but the difference is that Texas didn’t sign him as a free agent after those 4 years relieving and then make him a starter.

    I brought that up in terms of innings limits. Its different moving from relief to starting when you’re older. They don’t baby you. CJ wilson went from 70 to 200 innings. But its also evidence that it can be done.

  57. Chip February 27th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    A few hopes:

    Cody Eppley performs well this spring so he has value to another team via trade (Pirates for either Tabata or Snyder?)

    The other LHR options (Rondon, Spence, Cabral when he’s healthy, and Rapada – I won’t call him Rapper) perform well so that Boone Logan can be dealt during the season

    That the Yankees give their kids a chance. Girardi is hedging towards the veterans but we haven’t seen Juan Rivera or Matt Diaz play the field yet – until they do I have to believe that they’re not serious candidates for replacing Granderson.

    That what we’re seeing from Cervelli and Gardner travels. I still believe that Romine will be the starting catcher by at least mid-season, but Cervelli is playing like the solid defender he was advertised to be when he came up.

  58. Rich in NJ February 27th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    I would add Nunez becoming a credible SS to the above.

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