Spring training Games 6 and 7: vs. Blue Jays, at Astros
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 28, 2013 
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YANKEES (1-4)
Brett Gardner CF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Travis Hafner DH
Juan Rivera LF
Chris Stewart C
Dan Johnson 3B
Jose Pirela 2B
Gil Velazquez SS
RHP David Phelps (4-4, 3.34 ERA in 2012)
Phelps vs. Blue Jays
BLUE JAYS (2-4)
Jose Reyes SS
Melky Cabrera LF
Jose Bautista RF
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
J.P. Arencibia DH
Brett Lawrie 3B
Rajai Davis CF
Henry Blanco C
Maicer Izturis 2B
RHP Brandon Morrow
Morrow vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network
ROAD GAME
YANKEES (1-4)
Eduardo Nunez SS
Jayson Nix 2B
Zoilo Almonte RF
Matt Diaz LF
Melky Mesa CF
Francisco Cervelli C
Corban Joseph 3B
Luke Murton 1B
J.R. Murphy DH
RHP Brett Marshall
Marshall has never faced the Astros
ASTROS (3-2-1)
Jose Altuve 2B
Justin Maxwell CF
Carlos Pena 1B
Chris Carter LF
Jason Castro C
J.D. Martinez RF
Rick Ankiel DH
Marwin Gonzalez 3B
Jonathan Villar SS
RHP Lucas Harrell (11-11, 3.76 ERA in 2012)
Harrell vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., not on television
SPLIT SQUAD: This is the Yankees first split-squad of the spring. Tony Pena is managing the group in Kissimmee, where a team made primarily of minor leaguers and borderline big leaguers will face the Astros (should be a fair fight, right?). Here in Tampa, the Yankees are facing pretty much the regular Blue Jays lineup.
FAMILIAR NAMES: Two opposing outfielders are pretty familiar. For the Blue Jays it’s left fielder Melky Cabrera. For the Astros it’s center fielder Justin Maxwell. After being designated for assignment last spring, Maxwell settled in with the Astros and actually became one of their standouts. He might be the best player on that team.
LATE SCRATCH: The Blue Jays scratched Colby Rasmus and are using Rajai Davis instead.
WHAT TO WATCH: Spring debut of Clay Rapada (in Tampa) and Dellin Betances (in Kissimmee). … All four of the catching candidates are playing today with Stewart and Cervelli starting, Bobby Wilson and Austin Romine coming off the bench. … With Phil Hughes being at least somewhat questionable for the start of the season, David Phelps seems to be the most obvious replacement if the Yankees need someone to make a spot start or two in early April. … Will Brett Gardner and Ichiro Suzuki continue their hot starts to the spring?
UPDATE, 1:11 p.m.: Phelps walks Bautista, but gets the rest of the side, ending the inning with a strikeout of Encarnacion.
UPDATE, 1:16 p.m.: Blue Jays’ shift for Teixeira was extreme, and they’re staying that way for Hafner. Only different for Hafner is that Lowrie — playing shallow rigth field — moves back a little deeper. Either way, shortstop Reyes is playing almost perfectly up the middle. It’s almost impossible for the left side to be any more open.
UPDATE, 1:18 p.m.: Shift does it’s job. Hafner’s sharp ground ball got past Encarnacion, but it went straight to Lawrie for a 3-5-3 putout.
UPDATE, 1:23 p.m.: Pretty nice play by Pirela to turn a double play that gets Phelps out of the second inning.
UPDATE, 1;26 p.m.: Over in Kissimmee, Nunez has his first throwing error of the spring, and Cervelli has thrown out another base runner.
UPDATE, 1:28 p.m.: Stewart just got ejected for arguing a call at first base. Tossed from a spring game. Crazy. I did think he was safe, though.
UPDATE, 1:31 p.m.: Wilson now catching for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 1:34 p.m.: Pretty solid play at third base by Dan Johnson. Had to go to his left. It helped that Blanco was running.
UPDATE, 1:36 p.m.: Wilson throws out Izturis trying to steal second. At this point it’s pretty clear that Wilson is a distant dark horse in the catching competition, but he’s proven he can handle the big leagues.
UPDATE, 1:41 p.m.: That’s probably all for David Phelps today. Cabrera flied to center to strand Reyes and end the top of the third. It’s still scoreless. Phelps allowed two hits and walked a batter.
UPDATE, 1:42 p.m.: Now pitching for the Blue Jays, J.A. Happ, the same guy who broke Curtis Granderson’s forearm.
UPDATE, 1:55 p.m.: Didn’t see check the gun on all of Aardsma’s pitches, but YES had his final fastball at 92 mph. Aardsma pitched a 1-2-3 fourth inning. That was his first appearance of the spring.
UPDATE, 2:23 p.m.: Gardner lifted for a pinch runner. Only in spring training. Heathcott running at first base.
Tony Pena is managing the group in Kissimmee, where a team made primarily of minor leaguers and borderline big leaguers will face the Astros (should be a fair fight, right?).
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Ouch.
Watching NYY @ Home on the PC and Astros on the TV. problem is the astros game is behind by a minute or two thanks to the nextdef buffering , kind of sucks!
Phelps looking good so far.
2 Infield hits for the Yankees on the road, Nunez and Zoilo.
Nunez with IF single…did his helmet fly off? Ha ha! Just a rhetorical question..no answer needed!
is that the real Astros, or is it the Bad News Bears in Breaking Training?
Let them play!
Let them play!
Just saw the Bautista & Encarnacion at bats. Phelps is really well along in his Spring routine.
Nunez with another error?
Solid oppo line drive for Ichiro off Morrow. Bat control Ichiro vs Gardner. Similiar hard fastball up and away, Gardner’s swing was level but just under it, so he flew out to LF. Ichiro gets on that ball and its a solid line drive.
RadioKev,
Not another error, I think that would be his first of the spring? He threw a little high to first.
Hafner hits it into the shift, despite the 1bman following down trying to field it, lawrie fields in short RF and throws back to first to get him out. Boo shift.
Marshall strikes out Justin Maxwell, who is playing CF.
Man Cervelli is having a great spring behind the plate. ACE throw to 2B, perfect accuracy, gets the runner.
Phelps great bounce back game, looked real sharp. Not as much sharp contact, just got a double play to end the inning.
Great to hear about Cervy.
Francesa sounds like a kid interviewing Jeter.
Mesa dunks a single, Cervelli erases him with a chop up the middle. Cervo got kind of burned by Mesa attempting a steal. It drew the 2B to the bag and he was standing there to field the chop, would have been an IF hit / HIT / Tough out otherwise
Hafner and Tex will see The shift every time until they can show that they can beat it.
Chris Stewart apparently ejected from spring training, that’ll hurt him in the catcher race
Francesa sounds like a kid interviewing Jeter.
Jeter sounds like a kid talking about the new season. Not one hint of negativity. I guess that’s how he has managed to perform at such a high level for so long.
“Hafner and Tex will see The shift every time until they can show that they can beat it.”
They can only beat it by going over it.
Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
Chris Stewart apparently ejected from spring training, that’ll hurt him in the catcher race
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Looked like a bad call, but a little much to get yourself ejected in spring training…
“Jeter sounds like a kid talking about the new season. Not one hint of negativity. I guess that’s how he has managed to perform at such a high level for so long.”
I’m not saying that it isn’t warranted, but I don’t think you can be a great athlete without supreme (at times even irrational*) confidence.
*which I don’t mean as a diss
As for Francesa, it’s just such a different posture than almost all of his interviews.
Looks like Marshall is overpowering the Astros. Honestly, is this their big league lineup?
Brett Marshall having himself a good start to ST. Said he was the guy who impressed me the most vs Atlanta, and he is continuing that facing the AAAstros.
Marshall looks pretty dang good …like his delivery …nice CUs
Jerkface says:
February 28, 2013 at 1:23 pm
Man Cervelli is having a great spring behind the plate. ACE throw to 2B, perfect accuracy, gets the runner.
If he keeps throwing like he has and continues to be more quite behind the dish then there is really no question who the primary catcher should be if the choice is between Stewie and him…..
I agree with you re the self-belief aspect, Rich in NJ. Fans see things differently. We’re powerless to change things.
Wow. That runner was out by a mile in the away game. Bad pitch to run on, and another great throw by Cervelli.
Cervelli gets another runner by an absolute mile.
Jeez. Stay healthy, FC.
I guess Stewart didn’t really want to play today?
Maybe the way Stewart hits, even spring training hits are important.
Jeter says the same things every year and it’s absolutely meaningless.
Aardsma’s led the Yankees in tweets since he signed.
It’s not meaningless when he can no longer do it.
Dellin and Aardsma on. Who to watch on the big screen?
Dellin in in the 4th.
Dellin of course, you can watch Aardsma all season
Aardsma fastball isnt vintage,. but 92-94 and has some whiff factor.
Dellin throws some strikes, nearly hits the batter, and then plunks the batter. That’s gotta be scary.
Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Aardsma fastball isnt vintage,. but 92-94 and has some whiff factor.
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Liked the way he was keeping the ball down.
Steaks ejected because the umpire didnt want to watch him anymore
Dellin isn’t keeping the ball down, but just broke off a curve for a K.
Reyes with a crazy long run on a pop fly. He may as well be a left fielder.
I like the Atros shirts today, a little bit of the old school colors.
Betances strikes out Carlos Pena looking with a curve. He has dropped a few in for strikes, but also hit Altuve with the pitch earlier.
No radar gun as far as I can tell but you can see the speed on Betances fastball coming out of his hand. Seems to be spotting it well, down in the zone.
“He may as well be a left fielder.”
Especially on turf, as he ages.
Betances goes from 1-2 to a walk, though he thought he had a strike out on a 2-2 pitch.
jf,
One hbp, two walks, one wild pitch adds up to “spotting it well”?
Betances stuff looks good….threw some nasty hooks….command and control iffy as usual though….he just needs to go after people….
One hbp, two walks, one wild pitch adds up to “spotting it well”?
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Well keep in mind i’m 2 minutes behind you
he did go 1-2 on altuve with the fastball, and 1-2 on Pena with the fastball, and 1-2 on the guy he just walked with the fastball! And it was down in the zone. But he is erratic, that’s betances.
Betances dangerous today, not in a good way.
Betances has been 1-2 on near every batter, just not finishing them off. He is having a lot of trouble spotting the curve.
Betances gets out of it, though he continues to walk a tightrope. Same old Dellin. Did look like he got squeezed a little, but thats what happens when you have that kind of reputatiion
Had Betances gotten the outside corner calls earlier, might not have seen nearly imploding Betances.
Betances can lose his release point very quickly….his stuff was very good it looked like to me today….ball was coming out quick and he dropped some hammer curveballs but he just nibbles too much and throws too many ball
I doubt he’s ever gonna have plus command…..but he at least needs to have control and throw strikes….with his stuff he can live in the strike zone….get Ahead and then try to get out with the plus curveball…..AJ made a career of doing that with iffy command
@mikeaxisa
Got the full Dellin Betances experience that inning. Nasty curves, HBP, four-pitch walk, WP, struck out two, whiffs on fastballs in the zone
the shift is ridiculous….at some point i hope teix starts trying to hit it toward third base…automatic single at least
Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
@mikeaxisa
Got the full Dellin Betances experience that inning. Nasty curves, HBP, four-pitch walk, WP, struck out two, whiffs on fastballs in the zone
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Yep, that’s about right.
Does Dellin go out for a 2nd inning?
He was ahead of Carter then spent two pitches trying to paint the outside corner and lost him…..go after guys Dellin….you can’t command good enough to nibble
I would still trade Betances if we could get a decent piece. It doesn’t look like he’s going to be a successful project in this organization.
Betances could benefit from a lack of other options. OTOH, if Pineda, Nova, Phelps, and even Marshall have good years, he could have a hard time getting a shot.
But it’s real early in ST…
That was a nice grab by Nunez on an over-spin grounder, and he made the throw, too.
Slade is in….switching to the other gAme
Slade’s slide just short
Jays left fielder reminds us of Andruw Jones.
I’m glad Betances delivered the goods today.. didn’t he have a solid ST last year as well?
Holy balls slade just tackled mustelier, what an idiot, come on
Heathcott just Bout killed Mustieller ….please stop being crazy Slade
I love the effort but has has to quit that crap or he’s never going to stay healthy ….needs to communicate better too
Holy balls slade just tackled mustelier, what an idiot, come on
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And he ran a long way to do it!
Shame,
Dellin had 2 Ks, 2 walks, 1 HBP, and one WP. Standard goods.
Hearhcott did range a long way to almost kill himself
That was Mustelier’s ball the entire way.
Whitley not very impressive.
Almonte with a great piece of hitting there
Shame Spencer February 28th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
I’m glad Betances delivered the goods today.. didn’t he have a solid ST last year as well?
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2 walks, 1 HBP, and nearly took another guys head off. He delivered more bads than goods.
ZMan hitting his way onto the roster?
ZMan hitting his way onto the roster?
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He has shown some real nice approach at the plate so far. Able to go the other way, with power even, some patience. I like it!
Matt Diaz with 3 ground balls on the day. Not great looking. I think Rivera must be ahead of him if you were handicapping that race right now.
is zolio on the 40 man?
is zolio on the 40 man?
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Yup, which is why I like his odds to make the team…
If Zoilo isn’t on the roster then who will be really? They can’t play Rivera or Diaz every day….
thanks jf. seems like he’s the unwritten frontrunner
they gotta put him in right, brett in cf, ichiro in lf?
Mustieler is built like a tank….probably only reason he survived that
Melky!
Nice shot. Make it hard for management to keep the washed up guys.
Melky Mesa Bomb.
Zoilo is the only LH hitting candidate they got right? Take him and platoon him with whoever is least terrible between Diaz and Rivera
Or a Zoological/ Mesa platoon!
From the Book of the Obvious: Competition is a good thing.
They could have a Zoomesa platoon without impacting the 40 man! Would give them more versatility too. Only problem is that its light on experience.
Zoilo is a switch hitter.
blake,
Zoological Mesa sounds like a paleontology dig in Utah. But that would be fun!
Gardner CF
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
Tex 1B
Hafner DH
Youk 3B
Almonte RF
Cervelli C
Ichiro LF
It’s way too early to decide whether Diaz and/or Rivera won’t be able to help the Yankees this year (cue Thames and Ibanez spring training lack of hitting) but if and when the Yankees decide that is the case they may as well platoon a couple of kids for a month, it won’t be that much of a dropoff (and may be an improvement) anyway.
NYYROC says:
February 28, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Zoilo is a switch hitter.
Yea but he’s better from the left side….and I think they are dead set on having either Diaz or Rivera on the team for some reason
Zoilo is a switch hitter.
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While true his left side has been his strongest in the past 2 years. So I think they’d consider him for a platoon right now.
This catch was tweeted about yesterday but everyone should check it out, real cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
Not a bad catch for somebody from nc state
Based upon what I have read, Grandy will miss about 30 games. I’d prefer to give Mesa/ Zoilo platoon a chance. It’s 30 games. If the NYY can’t give young guys a chance then, when will they? Besides, they can always find a Rivera or Diaz if they change their minds. They might just find out they have some young guys who can play…kinda like when they brought up Melky 1.0 and Cano.
Blake – I like the line-up.
Even if it is not Almonte, you figure the third outfielder goes in that slot.
I am all for giving the kids a shot in a limited span, particularly the one’s who can also play defense and run) Mesa.
Fun to think that if we were talking about this in August the names would be Austin, Mesa, Heathcott, Flores, and possibly Williams. Wow, that is some depth that is about a year away.
Ichiro is probably worth having just for the interviews
Brandon Laird with a grand slam :<
Slade GIDP
Adonis Garcia misplays a CF flyball.
Garcia just butchered a long fly ball into a triple, after Brandon Laird to Greene 420′ for a grandslam. 6-5 Astros.
Adonis isn’t exact a great glove man
Loonie Tunes in the outfield at Kissimmee. Glad Jorge isn’t there to see it.
Loonie Tunes in the outfield at Kissimmee. Glad Jorge isn’t there to see it.
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Second time Flores has let a ball drop in front of him that he may have gotten if the infielders weren’t getting in the way.
man flashback to 2013 where we score 5 and then give up 6 the next half inning :/
even in spring training, still hard to watch.
on the flip side, Almonte and Mesa are making cases for themselves to be the everyday OF while Grandy is out. Keep Juan Rivera on the bench, since apparently defense is so important to the Yankees now. Can’t say that about catcher and then put a liability in LF (Rivera/Diaz)
Mustelier had another line drive opposite field hit before Sanchez ended another Yankee loss by hitting into a DP
Reminds me of Charlie Hayes. Is he going to get any infield playing time?
Culver does look better from the right side….he still flew out meakly to RF but he just swings better with with more authority a
Right handed
YT,
Ronnie’s similarity to Hayes had occurred to me, to. It would be nice to see him catch the third out in a winning World Series, too!
Austin should get an AB here
I can’t believe how night and day different Cervelli looks defensively so far…..
Austin havin a good AB. Went from 1-2 to 3-2 and he takes some good rips. Then he shot a line drive down the line for a triple. Niceee.
Terrific at bat for Austin. Love his swing.
Really nice AB for Austin who’s approach and discipline is pretty impressive…..behind 0-2….fouled off a ton of pitches to work it 3-2 then lasered a triple Jeter style down the RF line……BEAutiful
Austin’s swing is very short and flat….he uses the whole field nicely….that was a big league quality AB he just put up
Making runs, nice to watch opposite field strokes. Too bad Adonis can’t catch.
@EyeOnBaseball: Cashman to Yankee fans: Get over Eduardo Nunez http://t.co/t6e2vcor0F via @cbssports
Nice Cash….not that I disagree with him totally but I’m not the GM of the Yankees saying it publically
Would Ernie Banks have said, “let’s lose two”?
7.964 is that the crowd # for Tampa ?
One of the people suggesting 500 ABs for Nunez is Yogi Berra, what does he know?
Even if Cashman thinks that….why in earth woukd he say it out loud to the media? I don’t get him sometimes
Cashman is so offensive.
Really liked Marshall today…
He’s on Francesa right now.
I mean what GM basically says….looks fans think this guy is good but he’s really not
Cashman either is really comfortable with his job security OR doesn’t give a sh*t.
Yet the GM held Nunez out of the Cliff Lee trade. He makes stuff up as he goes along.
Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Watching NYY @ Home on the PC and Astros on the TV. problem is the astros game is behind by a minute or two thanks to the nextdef buffering , kind of sucks!
Phelps looking good so far.
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How’d Justin Maxwell look today?
If Hughes is not ready to pitch in April, and Eppley is cut, who would you like to see go north with the team as another bullpen arm? Phelps would be in the rotation.
Warren/Marshall/Ramirez/Montgomery?
With:
Logan
Rapada
Aardsma
Joba
Robertson
Rivera
Id keep Marshall stretched out ….maybe Warren
When do they need a 5th starter?
Chip,
Maxwell looked terrific, but didn’t hit a lick. Does look like a ballplayer, though.
All I know is that Nunez was about the only guy they had that looked like he could hit a baseball to save their life in the ALCS last year
April 7th Rich
I don’t trust Cashman’s eye for talent nor developing it…
Rich in NJ says:
February 28, 2013 at 4:09 pm
When do they need a 5th starter?
April 10th or something I believe….
April 7th then I guess
Thanks, AAO.
So if Hughes’ readiness is only temporarily delayed, I agree with blake, Warren.
I hope Hughes can start the season….at the moment I would think he still can if there are no more set backs
Rich in NJ February 28th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
Yet the GM held Nunez out of the Cliff Lee trade. He makes stuff up as he goes along.
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It’s possible his perceptions of Nunez have changed in the three years since that non-trade.
That said, there is absolutely no benefit to Cashman acting like this. I don’t get it. Maybe he’s upset that guys like Theo and Sandy Alderson have gotten promoted to Team President levels while he still has to answer to Randy Levine. Maybe he thought he would have more power under a Hal administration than he’s gotten and it’s making him bitter. Maybe it’s the personal life stuff. I don’t know. He’s always been a downer; wringing his hands and the players he’s given up in trades 30 seconds after making the trade – but in the last few years he has:
Ripped a player at the press conference announcing that player’s contract.
Negotiated Jeter’s contract in the media
Blasted arguably his best player and that player’s agent for wanting to negotiate a new contract – which by the way would have benefited the team.
Mocked his own pitcher
now mocking another one of his players
Have to figure that he’s not breaking any news around the league but let’s just assume that Brian tries to shop Nunez and you’re an opposing GM – Brian asks for X and you’re response is “Why am I giving you anything. I know he can’t field and you yourself said he’s not a good offensive ball player. So why do I want him?”
Which brings me to another question. If Nunez isn’t a good offensive player, and he’s not a good defensive player, then why is he here? Why hasn’t Brian brought in someone better to fill the utility infielder role?
Yankee Trader February 28th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
If Hughes is not ready to pitch in April, and Eppley is cut, who would you like to see go north with the team as another bullpen arm? Phelps would be in the rotation.
Warren/Marshall/Ramirez/Montgomery?
With:
Logan
Rapada
Aardsma
Joba
Robertson
Rivera
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Rotation:
CC, Kuroda, Andy, Nova, Phelps
RHP: Rivera, Robertson, Joba, Aardsma, Kelley
LHP: Logan, Rapada
Rich
It’s April 15th. The 7th is a day game vs the Tigers and the only other off day that month is the day after opening day, the 2nd.
tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Chip,
Maxwell looked terrific, but didn’t hit a lick. Does look like a ballplayer, though.
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I have to think that if the Yankees offered Houston Eppley and maybe a low level SP they would send Maxwell to New York. I can’t tell you how much I would rather have him than Rivera or Diaz.
Chip
Has Sean Kelley pitched yet in ST?
Yanks fall to 1-6 ….George would be furious….it matters not at all but George would be mad nonetheless
Yankee Trader February 28th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Chip
Has Sean Kelley pitched yet in ST?
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Haven’t got a clue.
Where all all those runs small ball was going to produce?
blake February 28th, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Yanks fall to 1-6 ….George would be furious….it matters not at all but George would be mad nonetheless
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George would be furious with a lot of stuff going on around the team these days. Up to and including the fact that the new Stadium, beautiful though it is, has very little charm to it.
The Yankees will need a fifth starter no later than April 7. For Hughes to get four starts — pitching every fifth day — before April 7, he will need to make his first spring start no later than March 18. That’s two weeks from Monday.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....or-season/
That shift the Jays put on Tex was really extreme. Soon all 4 IF’s will be on the right side.
I am sure Maddon will do it for sure at some point this year.
tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Making runs, nice to watch opposite field strokes. Too bad Adonis can’t catch.
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He profiles more as a corner OF than a CF
DominicanYank February 28th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
I don’t trust Cashman’s eye for talent nor developing it…
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Well he basically said Heathcott is going to make the majors and be an above average player. He didn’t leave any room for a maybe
“Up to and including the fact that the new Stadium, beautiful though it is, has very little charm to it.”
Beautiful? I don’t see it. Monumental perhaps.
Odds
I’m seeing the 7th is a day game vs the Tigers and the 15th is the only day beside the 2nd as off days in April
Cleveland is lowering beer and concession prices.
“It’s possible his perceptions of Nunez have changed in the three years since that non-trade.”
Based on what?
Nunez:
ML stats: .272 .318 .384 .701
mL stats: .271 .314 .365 .679
“Well he basically said Heathcott is going to make the majors and be an above average player. He didn’t leave any room for a maybe”
For what team though?
Wave Your Hat says:
February 28, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Cleveland is lowering beer and concession prices.
Saw that….they had a good winter….don’t know how many games it’ll add to their record but they are trying to win back fans …..and more fans leads to more money….and money generally leads to better teams
If Heathcott doesn’t break himself I think he will make it…..Austin’s AB today was maybe the most impressive and advanced I’ve seen from any of the young players though …..
@DanBarbarisi: Cashman confirms that the yankees made a “significant offer” to Cano already.
Rich in NJ February 28th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
“Well he basically said Heathcott is going to make the majors and be an above average player. He didn’t leave any room for a maybe”
For what team though?
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lol
Obviously hopefully this one
@DanBarbarisi: Cashman confirms that the yankees made a “significant offer” to Cano already.
Yanks fall to 1-6 ….George would be furious….it matters not at all but George would be mad nonetheless.
Get used to it!
If they are gonna pay through the nose for Cano it’s much preferable to do it now so they have time to plan and so Boras does have a chance to drag the talks out all next winter
I liked Mustelier’s AB today. I like his swing.
Doesn’t *
I hope that Cano won’t be the only player Hal makes a big offer to over the next year or so, assuming Cano ultimately re-signs.
“I hope that Cano won’t be the only player Hal makes a big offer to over the next year or so, assuming Cano ultimately re-signs.”
I hope your assumption is right, but I’m afraid he’s a Dodger.
He also said Romine won’t be coming north with the team but we knew that already. It doesn’t matter what he does he was going to start in the minors anyway because he missed so much time
“I hope your assumption is right, but I’m afraid he’s a Dodger.”
If he goes to free agency I think the Dodgers may not take no for an answer
Watching the Heathcott tackle. Wow. The dude is running straight towards the warning track to make a dive? He could have hurt himself even if he didn’t crash into Mustelier.
Phelps and Marshall both looked good today. That’s very encouraging.
If Cervelli keeps playing like he has then he should catch…..I’m pretty shocked how much better he looks defensively to be honest
“Watching the Heathcott tackle. Wow. The dude is running straight towards the warning track to make a dive? He could have hurt himself even if he didn’t crash into Mustelier.”
He may have snapped Ichiro in half….good thing he wasn’t out there….Heathcott has to understand the risk he’s taking and chill…..
“If he goes to free agency I think the Dodgers may not take no for an answer”
Which is why, if he is not re-signed before the end of the season, the Yankees need to time-limit their offer during their exclusive negotiating window so that he can’t shop it. That way, they aren’t left hanging.
“If Cervelli keeps playing like he has then he should catch…..I’m pretty shocked how much better he looks defensively to be honest”
I’ve always thought Cervelli had to be a better defensive catcher than he appeared. But Posada said yesterday the starting catcher will be the one the pitchers want to throw to. Given their bats, I suspect he’s right.
If the Yanks are already seriously engaging cano then I think there is a chance they get a deal done now…..
“Which is why, if he is not re-signed before the end of the season, the Yankees need to time-limit their offer during their exclusive negotiating window so that he can’t shop it. That way, they aren’t left hanging.”
Agreed ….last thing they want is Boras to drag it out all winter.
I think there is a chance they get a deal done but Cano win have to be the guy to tell boras it’s what he wants….cause if its left to him he will take it to the open market
I hate to say it, but I really think the only reason the Yanks are making the fact that they’re making an offer to Cano public is so when he does sign elsewhere they can say they ‘tried their best’ to keep him.
I’ve thought so since Hal publicly announced they were interested in opening discussions.
“the Yankees need to time-limit their offer during their exclusive negotiating window so that he can’t shop it.”
They can say it, but I don’t think they are in a position to stick to it. But if the chance of re-signing him is only 50/50, you have to consider trading him first.
One of the veterans has to take Heathcott aside and tell him you can’t help the team if you’re not on the field. And if he crashed into a veteran? They would probably be fuming at him.
Cervelli looked great out there today. That second caught stealing was all around impressive.
“I hate to say it, but I really think the only reason the Yanks are making the fact that they’re making an offer to Cano public is so when he does sign elsewhere they can say they ‘tried their best’ to keep him.”
Certainly possible
There is no way Cano (Boras) would sign a deal before hitting free agency. The Yankees must know this and are probably offering him a contract now so they can assure fans they did everything they could to keep him when he ends up in LA.
Rich in NJ February 28th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
“It’s possible his perceptions of Nunez have changed in the three years since that non-trade.”
Based on what?
Nunez:
ML stats: .272 .318 .384 .701
mL stats: .271 .314 .365 .679
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Lack of progression
Patrick February 28th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
There is no way Cano (Boras) would sign a deal before hitting free agency. The Yankees must know this and are probably offering him a contract now so they can assure fans they did everything they could to keep him when he ends up in LA.
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I’m not sure we have any reason to believe this is true. If the Yankees offer Cano a big contract, Cano might just take it and be happy to stay in NY.
He might leave a little money on the table if he feels like he isn’t just being short changed. CC did the same.
He might leave a little money on the table if he feels like he isn’t just being short changed. CC did the same.
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Yes well Sabathia’s agent isn’t Scott Boras.
Patrick says:
February 28, 2013 at 4:44 pm
There is no way Cano (Boras) would sign a deal before hitting free agency. The Yankees must know this and are probably offering him a contract now so they can assure fans they did everything they could to keep him when he ends up in LA.
It’ll have to be because Cano wants it if it happens….boras guys have done it before (Weaver, CarGo) but the player has to want it and tell Boras to take it……
So did Hamels, and all I read was speculation that Cole REALLY wanted to be in LA.
And famously, Cliff Lee left money on the table.
I think Cano likes being in NY, and if the Yankees offer him a huge contract he’ll take it.
Basically if Boras thinks he’s getting close to free market value a year early then it’s wise to take that….injuries do happen
“Lack of progression”
Except that virtually all MLE systems discount ML stats as a function of a player’s mL stats. So he is actually outperforming them.
“hey can say it, but I don’t think they are in a position to stick to it. But if the chance of re-signing him is only 50/50, you have to consider trading him first.”
The worst thing that can happen to them is for other top FA to sign before Cano and then Cano leaves. Then what do they do with the money given their stated desire to be able to win at a high level each year.
I would definitely support trading him in the right deal.
Ca$h’s act is really becoming tiresome. He’s becoming a real tool and I think his new attitude has obviously led him to making some questionable decisions in his personal life and it may now becoming a problem in his job performance as well.
His skin seems to have become so thin you can see his skeleton on a sunny day!
The 500 ab reference seems to be a direct slight at Yogi Berra who has stated that the Yanks should find a way to get Nuney 500 abs this season. I’m sorry I’d take Yogi’s over Ca$h’s any day of the week.
In the same week he calls Gardy an impact player he questions Nunez’s offensive potential? That’s laughable! You can’t even compare the true contact and ability to impact the ball between the two players. Gardy will see more pitches and take more walks of course but Nunez never gives away abats and drives the ball when he gets to it. None other than Justin Verlander said that Nunez was the toughest at bat he had all night last year in the ALCS.
He’s become very snide in his comments he comes off as being little.
He should be the the most thankful guy on earth to even have the job he has as he got his position not by anything he accomplished in the game of baseball but because he flipped an internship into Georges personal pet and George’s fondness led to him getting a job he probably didn’t deserve.