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Thursday morning notes: Rivera throws simulated game

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 28, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mariano Rivera threw a simulated game this morning. From a pitching standpoint, that’s basically the same thing as throwing live batting practice, but a sim game gave Rivera a chance to test his knee with some fielding. He came through the workout with no problem, then went to do some running. Seems like the knee held up just fine.

CC Sabathia also faced hitters this morning. I didn’t see all of Sabathia’s session, but I did see him face Ronnier Mustelier, who took some pretty ugly swings. Not sure whether that says more about Sabathia or Mustelier.

Still no word on when either Rivera or Sabathia will get in a game.

• Pretty quiet clubhouse this morning. Roughly half of the team took an early bus to Kissimmee to face the Astros. Everyone else was kind of floating in and out of the room. The early spring buzz has definitely died down. Just all part of the routine today.

• Status quo on Phil Hughes. Not sure when we’ll know anything new on him.

• Dellin Betances and Clay Rapada are each scheduled to pitch in a game for the first time this spring.

• Boone Logan will pitch a simulated game tomorrow.

• A few guys are up from the minor league complex to provide some depth. In Tampa, utility man Casey Stevensen will be on the bench and Craig Heyer will be in the bullpen. Doesn’t look like either one is scheduled to play. They’re here just in case. In Kissimmee, Kevin Mahoney is scheduled to play third base off the bench. Infielder Reegie Corona and pitchers Schaeffer Hall and Graham Stoneburner also made that trip as reserves.

• Matt Tracy and Shawn Kelley each threw simulated games this morning. They were on the field before Sabathia and Rivera. The hitters were Kyle Roller, Addison Maruszak and Ronnier Mustelier.

• Today’s bullpens: Jose Ramirez, Adam Warren and Andy Pettitte.

Home second string: C Bobby Wilson, 1B Kyle Roller, 2B none, SS Addison Maruszak, 3B Rob Segedin, LF Thomas Neal, CF Slade Heathcott, RF Ronnier Mustelier, DH Gary Sanchez

Home relievers: David Aardsma, Clay Rapada, Branden Pinder, Juan Cedeno, Chase Whitley, Jim Miller

Road second string: C Austin Romine, 1B Greg Bird, 2B Walter Ibarra, SS Cito Culver, 3B Kevin Mahoney, LF Ramon Flores, CF Adonis Garcia, RF Tyler Austin, DH Francisco Arcia

Road relievers: Dellin Betances, Mike O’Brien, Shane Greene, Kelvin Perez, Corey Black, Zach Nuding

• Blue Jays lineup for today’s home game:
Jose Reyes SS
Melky Cabrera LF
Jose Bautista RF
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Colby Rasmus CF
Brett Lawrie 3B
J.P. Arencibia DH
Henry Blanco C
Maicer Izturis 2B

RHP Brandon Morrow

Associated Press photos

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164 Responses to “Thursday morning notes: Rivera throws simulated game”

  1. Tackelberry February 28th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Pretty much the BLue Jays regular starting lineup. Good test for Phelps.

  2. blake February 28th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    @jnorris427: A couple things from perusing the NYY media guide, Nardi Contreras is now a Senior Pitching Instructor. …

  3. Tackelberry February 28th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Be good to finally see Betances get in a game.

  4. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    blake February 28th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    @jnorris427: A couple things from perusing the NYY media guide, Nardi Contreras is now a Senior Pitching Instructor. …
    —————

    I hope that means he reports to Patterson and not the other way around.

  5. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Seriously though Blake – what do you think Contreras has on Cashman? It has to be something pretty good to let this clown pretty much ruin 6 top level starting pitchers and still collect what I can only imagine is a pretty sizeable paycheck.

  6. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    I hope that means he reports to Patterson and not the other way around.

    —————————-

    Well GP is the Director of Pitching. At least that’s what was reported when he accepted the job.

  7. Cashmoney February 28th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    compromising pictures of Sergio Mitre and Cashman frolicking?

  8. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    AAO:

    My hope is just that it’s not a situation where Nardi has Cashman’s ear and that while Patterson is the overall director, Contreras is still primarily responsible for the key prospect pitchers.

  9. blake February 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    “Seriously though Blake – what do you think Contreras has on Cashman? It has to be something pretty good to let this clown pretty much ruin 6 top level starting pitchers and still collect what I can only imagine is a pretty sizeable paycheck.”

    Honestly I don’t know enough about nardi or his contributions to say …..

  10. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Cash –

    That could well be it.

  11. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Blake -

    The guy was fired from I think 4 organizations (including the Yankees) for being completely inept as a pitching coach. Under his stewardship we have seen 6 top pitching prospects fail to develop (Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Brackman, Betances, Sanchez). He was the genius behind the Joba rules. He was in charge of evaluating the pitchers and failed to recognize that Chris Garcia and Ty Clippard might have value as relief pitchers

    He is incompetent.

  12. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Like that pic with the sun in the background. Somebody deserves credit there.

    Thought that Sherman The Hack was way outta line with that scathing attack on Chamberlain. Chamberlain has been used and abused by the Yanks, and I believe he knows next season he will be chucking elsewhere, so the muzzle is off, and will remain off for the Entire 2013 season. Sherman also dog-piles the Now absent Swisher and David Wells. Truly, National Enquirer tripe being spewed by Sherman.

  13. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Chip February 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am
    AAO:

    My hope is just that it’s not a situation where Nardi has Cashman’s ear and that while Patterson is the overall director, Contreras is still primarily responsible for the key prospect pitchers.

    ———————-

    Hopefully that’s not the case. Maybe it’s just a job title and they threw him a bone instead of just throwing him out.

  14. Cashmoney February 28th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Chip, was on my way dropping Yankeesource off his middle school, he hinted the 3rd party could be Joey G and Waldman was doing commentating in the background. The story obvious hasn’t been confirmed.

  15. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    He is incompetent.

    ——————-

    And yet he is still here smh

  16. randy l. February 28th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    “But I do agree that I think Posada would some day be a very good manager – same with Chris Stewart.”

    stewart should be a kansas city royals manager and jorge should be the new york yankees manager.

    big difference.

    i don’t think stewart would know how to manage the yankees where jorge gets it totally.

  17. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “(Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Brackman, Betances, Sanchez”

    Hughes and Kennedy are big league starters….2 out of 6 is about normal attrition rate. All the rest had warts…..Brackman (size , delivery, health), Betances (size, delivery, health) , Sanchez (fat, health)…..Joba is a legit critisim bu I think the whole organization failed on him.

    Not saying Nardi is great or anything but I doin it’s fair to pin the whole thing on him…..again developing starting pitching is hard an a lot of it is luck and just getting the right players to work with.

  18. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    He is incompetent.

    ——————-

    And yet he is still here smh
    ————-

    Brian’s biggest failing as Yankee GM.

    If you want to build from within, if you want to pare payroll and develop your own players then you have to have the right people running your minor leagues.

    If the Yankees don’t want to spend as much money on professional players then spend it to hire the best coaches in the game to run your minor leagues and the best scouts and player personnel people to evaluate your players.

    That the Yankees haven’t done this – more than not spending in the draft or internationally – is a disgrace.

  19. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Maybe you’re right….I just can’t jump on that train totally because I just don’t know.

  20. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Exactly no reason why the best and one of the most organization in sports doesn’t have the best coaches teaching their young players. Then they wonder why their kinds come up and don’t know which way is up.

  21. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Jump on the train Blake..you’re already a long standing member of Team Greedy

  22. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Developing pitching is such an inexact science that I think it’s hard to really tell who does a good job and who doesn’t…..it’s clear that teams like the Rays do a great job because the proof is in their big league roster and there is just too much evidence for it to be luck at this point…..same with the Cards, Giants etc…..

    But most teams are right where the Yankee are trying to figure out how to do it…..I do think a lot of it is luck….both with health and just getting the right players

  23. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    - LADIES AND GENTLEMEN -

    The Waffle House is open.

  24. Frankg February 28th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Agree totally with what Sheman said about Chamberlin. Let’s hope he contributes this year, if the Yankees haven’t traded him before the season begins for a righthanded outfielder or starting pitcher. Possible in-house replacements: Kelly, Ardsma, and Miller.

  25. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Against All Odds says:
    February 28, 2013 at 11:07 am
    Jump on the train Blake..you’re already a long standing member of Team Greedy

    Oh I agree they should have the best coaches and instructors….,but aside from going and stealing all the rays and Cardinals people then how do you accomplish that? It’s kinda hard to scout scouts and instructors Id think ….sorta a trial and error process

  26. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Donny,

    If you want to make uninformed statements like always then that’s fine….but they are meaningless….I can make a definative statement on Nardi if you want….but given that I really don’t have a clue if he’s actually an asset or not then the comment would mean nothing.

  27. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    True it might be trial and error but I suppose it’s like the NFL the ppl within the industry know who the best scouts are. Hell there are probably young hungry aggressive guys out there scouting players for their own personal joy. The talent is out there but you just have to find it.

  28. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Stealing all the Rays development people wouldn’t count against the luxury tax

  29. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Nothing “uninformed” in my statement. It’s an observation that occurs here countless times. As in life, one can Not be afraid of making a mistake. Saying what you see\feel will Always be the right course. “This above all, to thine own self be true”. The Bard

  30. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    I think luck plays a role and it can’t be denied but I also feel the some organization have a better grasp in certain areas than other organizations. With luck you would think the Yankees would at least luck into one guy just based on chance.

  31. randy l. February 28th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    “But most teams are right where the Yankee are trying to figure out how to do it…”

    blake-

    of course, since spending more money on really good coaches would be difficult with the limited financial resources the yankees has, you really can’t expect the yankees to excel in this area.

    plus since coaching salaries go towards the luxury tax it makes sense for the yankees to try to cut corners there.

  32. Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Ichirowns

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLX8LfQKDOw

  33. Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    plus since coaching salaries go towards the luxury tax it makes sense for the yankees to try to cut corners there.

    This is a joke, internet people, coaching salaries do not go towards the lux tax. :twisted:

  34. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    “Nothing “uninformed” in my statement. It’s an observation that occurs here countless times. As in life, one can Not be afraid of making a mistake. Saying what you see\feel will Always be the right course. “This above all, to thine own self be true”. The Bard”

    Basically what you’re saying is that you should never fail to make a definative statement on anything even if you don’t know what you’re talking about…..if you want to do that it’s fine but you just talk nonsense most of the time because of it….

  35. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax February 28th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Road relievers: Dellin Betances, Mike O’Brien, Shane Greene, Kelvin Perez, Corey Black, Zach Nuding

    *****

    Chad – there must be a typo in this. The spokesperson for the comment section guaranteed that Corey Black would hardly pitch this spring. By my estimation, this would be Corey Black’s second potential appearance. That’s hardly pitching – and therefore – the comment section spokesperson made an oversight in not listing Corey Black among the players to watch out for on the nonroster invitee list – - – -

    But this cannot be – the spokesperson’s excel spreadsheets and the forumals in each box are always correct – if there is an error – the whole system of spreadsheets needs to be revaluated – - – -

    This is Stoneburner, reporting from permanent exile on Ceti Alpha V, with the wax poetic minute – - – -

  36. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    “of course, since spending more money on really good coaches would be difficult with the limited financial resources the yankees has, you really can’t expect the yankees to excel in this area.”

    I guess my point is that it might be harder to actually buy the best coaches than we think…. 1) because many are under contract already 2) because maybe it’s hard to figure out who they actually are.

    If the Yanks could go out today and assemble the best development team in the world by writing a check then my guess is they would

  37. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Does anybody know what WCYF is talking about now?

  38. randy l. February 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    “This is a joke, internet people, coaching salaries do not go towards the lux tax.”

    jerkface-

    hey, quit messing around with my sarcasm:)

  39. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    If your pleading ignorance, then declining to comment would be the proper course to follow. But when you start citing successes and failures, that is certainly Not the case. If your gonna keep score, you gotta have a winner and a loser. NOT a tie.

  40. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:29 am
    Does anybody know what WCYF is talking about now?

    ———————–

    What happened to the real Stonenurner

  41. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    “If your pleading ignorance, then declining to comment would be the proper course to follow”

    Exactly….otherwise known as not making a definative statement when you don’t know…..glad we agree

  42. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Stoneburner***

  43. Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Wasn’t a list of players to watch out, was a list of players I was personally interested in seeing. Troll on, crazy!

  44. Russell Munson February 28th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Here’s what I don’t get. Prior to 2268, Ceti Alpha V was considered to be a Class M planet that was barely capable of supporting life. Following the explosion of Ceti Alpha VI and the changes to Ceti Alpha V’s orbit and axial tilt, the planet became Class K. So how is Stoneburner reporting from there?

  45. Wave Your Hat February 28th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    The more the Yanks dump on Joba the more I like him. Odd, I admit.

  46. blake February 28th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    ” So how is Stoneburner reporting from there?”

    How does Jason come back from the dead all the time? How does nothing kill Michael Myers even though he’s just a human? How does jaws track a family on land from the water? Unanswerable questions……

  47. ron February 28th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    The thing that really bothers me is girardi telling the catchers that he does not care about their offense.
    I just don’t wan’t our catchers with that state of mind.
    I’d like a catcher that is an offensive one that holds his own defensively,not a .240 catcher that has 5 hr/55 rbi.

  48. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    I want to know why Chekov did not have a weapon with him, when he beamed down to a planet that was showing life forms? Kahn shoulda been smoked in reel 1. Also, how could Kirk let Chekov back on the bridge, when he just watched a bug crawl outta that guy’s head.

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock February 28th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    “This above all, to thine own self be true”. The Bard
    ///

    You do realize, Donnybrook, that Shakespeare put those words into the mouth of a blathering, sententious, long-winded, pompous politician, who not only gets outsmarted and misinterprets everything he sees and hears, but who ends up with a rapier run through him because of it!

    Good choice! :)

  50. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    I liked David Wells, and Chamberlain is showing the same stones that made him unique.

  51. DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Guess I better be careful now. They are circling the wagons.

  52. joecembrale February 28th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    DONNYBROOK February 28th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Thought that Sherman The Hack was way outta line with that scathing attack on Chamberlain. Chamberlain has been used and abused by the Yanks, and I believe he knows next season he will be chucking elsewhere, so the muzzle is off, and will remain off for the Entire 2013 season. Sherman also dog-piles the Now absent Swisher and David Wells. Truly, National Enquirer tripe being spewed by Sherman.
    ****************************************
    Could not agree more with Donnybrook- this is the crap that passes for journalism when there is nothing scandalous to report or Joel is pmsing.

  53. Wave Your Hat February 28th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Sherman just seems to be passing along to the fans what the Yank organization is thinking.

  54. randy l. February 28th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    “If the Yanks could go out today and assemble the best development team in the world by writing a check then my guess is they would”.

    blake-

    i knew some pretty serious pitching coaches ( rick peterson, tony cloninger, bruce kison,neil allen, jeff jones,etc) and i don’t have a clue what it takes to be a pitching coach as far as pitching knowledge goes, but i will tell you that none of these guys are generic coaches or yes men.

    dave eiland is an example of a generic coach. cashman is attracted to generic coaches simply because they tell him what he wants to hear.

    none of the above guys i mentioned could work for cashman for long. some did, and he fired them.
    his loss and the yankees.

    i am however interested and encouraged in gil patterson’s hiring. it seems uncharacteristic for cashman to hire him because patterson does not seem like a generic coach at all. my question is what will happen to patterson when he butts head with cashman?

  55. Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Having the most money doesnt mean you get the best people. You may end up with the people who are best at marketing themselves, rather than performing the function you’re hiring them for. Or you’re getting the person whom the hiring manager likes best, and this could be for reasons other than skill.

    Not saying its true, but Cashman could like guys who are more willing to defer to him when it comes to organizational philosophy. Oakland may not get the best manager because its an open secret Billy Beane hires guys who will follow his orders.

    Its one thing to get guys who are on the same page, and another thing to get guys who have no page until you hand them one.

  56. Jerkface February 28th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    And of course, agreeing with Cashman does not mean that someone isn’t the best at something. I’d like some new blood and refresh of the org’s minor league philosophies personally.

  57. RadioKev February 28th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Jerkface,

    I’ve got no idea if that Ichiro video is actually real, but it’s hilarious. Loved it.

  58. RadioKev February 28th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    I guess my point is that it might be harder to actually buy the best coaches than we think…. 1) because many are under contract already 2) because maybe it’s hard to figure out who they actually are.
    ———–

    I agree, Blake. Is much even publicly known about the coach evaluation process? Seems like it’s a murky area. It’s not like we’ve even got so much as standardized tests to go by here…

  59. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    JF-

    If this season goes poorly you might just get your wish.

    ;)

  60. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    It won’t break my heart if we see some fresh blood around Yankeeland.

    Continuity is nice but change is inevitable and necessary.

  61. UnKnown February 28th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Why isn’t MO wearing #42 above? Looks like he is rocking something in the 90′s.

  62. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    I wish Hal would just sell so we all can move on.

    C’mon Hal. You know there are other things you’d rather be doing.

    Turn it over to someone w. passion.

    ;)

  63. randy l. February 28th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    “I agree, Blake. Is much even publicly known about the coach evaluation process? Seems like it’s a murky area. It’s not like we’ve even got so much as standardized tests to go by here…”

    the pitching coach world is a small world from what i’ve seen. so many of these guys know each other. some months in the nineties in sarasota, i’d meet rhighetti, don cooper, neil allen, rick peterson, stu cliburn, and many more just going through normal days. they all know each other. they talk. they’re friends. there are layers upon layers of player and coaching relationships. it’s why a manager usually gets to hire his coaches. he knows them from somewhere in his background.

    a general manager ironically doesn’t have these same networks because he usually is not a former player. i would say it’s hard for a general manager to make coaching decisions. a former player who’s the manager would likely know these guys way better.

    i’m beating around the bush here somewhat. part of what i’m also saying is a manager like torre is going to know who’s good or who’s an ass hole much better than a gm would.

    gms really don’t know the coaches they hire the way a manager knows them. different networks.

  64. tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    I don’t think I’m nimble enough of mind anymore to watch both games on split screen, but I’ll give it a try!

  65. RadioKev February 28th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    UnKnown February 28th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    Why isn’t MO wearing #42 above? Looks like he is rocking something in the 90?s.
    ———–

    Nah, that’s still the last #42 out in the wild. It’s just a little obscured.

  66. RadioKev February 28th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
    The agent for Kyle Lohse called the Yankees this week to ask if they’d have interest in the pitcher. They don’t.

    Poor guy :(

  67. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Randy-

    I’d much rather drink a beer than read about what one tastes like in a book.

    :)

  68. Tyler February 28th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    That draft pick attached to Lohse is really killing him. He’ll catch on somewhere but maybe only at a 1-2 year deal at this point. He had a good year last year but he’d get killed in the AL East.

  69. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Enjoy the game(s) folks.

    :)

  70. randy l. February 28th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    “I’d much rather drink a beer than read about what one tastes like in a book.”

    mtu-

    i have no idea what it means, but most pitching coaches i’ve known know their way around a good beer or two :)

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