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Thursday notes: Sabathia to make only three spring starts

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 28, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The big board in Joe Girardi’s office has been updated. It lists the Yankees starting pitchers through the middle of next week, and it begins to outline an unusual spring for CC Sabathia.

Friday: Hiroki Kuroda
Saturday: Ivan Nova
Sunday: Adam Warren (Andy Pettitte sim game)
Monday: Off day
Tuesday: David Phelps (CC Sabathia sim game)
Wednesday: Hiroki Kuroda

Sabathia should be lined up to make his spring debut on March 10, but Girardi doesn’t want Sabathia to face the Blue Jays — avoiding the division — so Sabathia will instead throw another simulated game that day. That leaves Sabathia to make his spring debut no earlier than March 15, which leaves him time to make only three starts before Opening Day.

Girardi said Pettitte might also throw a second simulated game before pitching in an actual exhibition, leaving him no more than four actual spring starts.

“We don’t want them to start too many games down here because then you’re using innings that you would use during the season,” Girardi said. “You can control their pitch count (in a sim game). You can control things a lot easier, and they’re still getting built up. The key is to get them built up. I’m not going to worry about if Mo’s going to have intensity come April 1, or if Andy’s going to have intensity or CC. We’ve got to get them built up and ready for the season.”

Girardi said he considers simulated games to be essentially on equal footing with regular exhibition games. Sabathia’s two innings this morning were more like batting practice, Girardi said, but simulated games going forward will count like real innings in the process of getting pitchers build up.

“You’re going to be seeing hitters,” Girardi said. “It’s not like he’s throwing underneath in the cage. I think CC knows how to get prepared.”

• The Yankees lost two more games today and fell to 1-6 in spring training. If a spring record isn’t entirely meaningless, it’s surely very close. But still, one of these days I’m sure they’d like to win another one. They haven’t won since Saturday’s spring opener.

• Kevin Youkilis went through fielding drills and batting practice today. Girardi said Youkilis isn’t making the Fort Myers trip on Sunday, and it’s still undecided whether he’ll play Friday and Saturday or just Saturday. “I told him I’m going to sleep on it,” Girardi said. “He’s ready to go. He wanted to play yesterday. He wanted to play today. I might give him one at-bat tomorrow and then a couple on Saturday.”

• Nothing concrete on Phil Hughes, who did another day of pool work. “So far everything he’s needed to do has gone great,” Brian Cashman said. “A week of medication and rest, and I think he’s four, five days into the pool. And if everything goes right, maybe by Tuesday of next week, maybe (he’ll play catch). We have to hear from the doctor, but we’re hoping we get the ball in his hand for a flat ground throwing program. One step at a time. I know he feels good.”

• No complaints after Mariano Rivera’s 18-pitch morning sim game. “You saw me go after that bunt there,” Rivera said. “It was good.”

• Same for Sabathia’s two innings of batting practice. He threw 46 pitches, so he’s fairly stretched out already. “I’m not, obviously, game ready,” Sabathia said. “But I’m getting there. I’m feeling better in the bullpen. Like I said, I felt a lot better today, just commanding the baseball.”

• Also no problems for either Ronnier Mustelier or Slade Heathcott who had a pretty brutal collision in the outfield. Heathcott covered a ton of ground to even be in the vicinity of the ball, and Mustelier made the catch despite an almost perfect tackle by Heathcott. “It didn’t really hurt either one of us,” Heathcott said. “I think we kind of fit the other like a puzzle piece or something like that.”

• Cashman said the Yankees have been impressed with Michael Pineda’s bullpens, but he also acknowledged that it’s too early to know much for certain.

• Facing essentially the Blue Jays regulars, David Phelps pitched three scoreless innings in his second start of the spring. “It felt like the same thing as the other day,” Phelps said. “I felt like I was getting ahead of guys. They were aggressive today; they were swinging at a lot of early stuff. I’ll take it. I’ll take early outs whenever we can get them. I feel like I was able to work some offspeed pitches today and felt really good.”

• David Aardsma and Clay Rapada each had the same pitching line in their spring debuts: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K. Dellin Betances pitched a scoreless inning in his debut. He walked two and struck out two.

• Home runs hurt the Yankees in both games today. In the 1-0 loss at home, Chase Whitley gave up a solo shot to Andy LaRoche. In the 7-6 loss on the road, Mike O’Brien gave up a solo shot to Rick Ankiel (on of three runs O’Brien allowed) and Shane Greene gave up a grand slam to former Yankees third baseman Brandon Laird.

• Francisco Cervelli threw out two more base runners today. So far, he’s showing a pretty good arm this spring.

• Melky Mesa had two hits including a home run. Zoilo Almonte also had two hits, as did Juan Rivera and Francisco Arcia. … Tyler Austin had a triple in his only at-bat of the day. … Eduardo Nunez made his first error of the spring, a throwing error. … Brett Gardner and Ichiro Suzuki each had a hit today to continue their strong starts to the spring.

• Don’t think anyone needed this, but Girardi said Sabathia will be the Opening Day starter. So it’s good to have that confirmed.

• Sabathia’s take on Rivera’s sim game: “He looked good, which I expected,” Sabathia said. “He’s throwing the ball right where he wants to, and for him to be able to do that in February is amazing.”

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139 Responses to “Thursday notes: Sabathia to make only three spring starts”

  1. blake February 28th, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Good spring so far despite the record….guys getting there work in and only really the hopefully minor injury to Hughes….impressed with some of the youngsters and it’s good for them to get this much experience

  2. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Marshall looked really good.

    Excellent changeup to go w his other stuff.

    It’s a swing and miss pitch.

  3. tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Mr. MTU,
    He got two Ks with it and left the hitters looking silly.

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    :)

    Team half full! Good going blake and MTU.

    ***********

    Against, I guess if it gives you a thrill to be able to say he changed his mind (in your perception) because of fan unrest, have at! I’m content to watch it play out rather than to kick cans down the street demanding to know the genesis of this and that. Just a different way of doing life. I’ll never understand anger, stomped feet, and negativity (you are exempted) any more than the authors of those behaviors will ever understand people like me not being up in arms or feeling some kind of indignation or upset. Never the twain shall meet. I think they’re as whacked as they think I am. I just don’t feel the need to mention it every time they show up and pitch a fit!

    :)

  5. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    Hey tom! Happy to see another member of team “life is good” here. :D I was really happy to see what I already knew was going to happen – offer to Robby. GO YANKEES! GO ROBBY!

  6. Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Trisha,

    Do you think the Yanks are better, worse or the same as last years team?

  7. kd February 28th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    Sabathia’s take on Rivera’s sim game: “He looked good, which I expected,” Sabathia said. “He’s throwing the ball right where he wants to, and for him to be able to do that in February is amazing.”

    Dear Yankee Fans,

    We’ve been spoiled by Mo.

    That is all

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Also, Against, not everyone makes their work product known to the whole world. I think there’s a misguided notion that the Yankees owe it to the fans who wear their hats that they should disclose everything they’re thinking. How do you know that Hal hasn’t known all along that he would be willing to go over the cap if it meant putting a contender on the field and that $189 is what he wanted to aim for if everything lined up? You don’t. By the way, do you know when he first mentioned that $189 wasn’t etched in stone?

  9. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Triple, are you talking on paper, or last year’s result? Because on paper, last year’s team was given top scores before the season started.

  10. Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Trisha,

    On paper now compared to last years result

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Okay, I think it is probably better than last year’s results BUT with Toronto’s off season moves, that could skew the number of wins.

  12. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    4:45pm: Scott Boras didn’t comment on the offer, telling CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman that “Robinson is focused on preparing for and playing the 2013 season. By agreement discussions shall remain confidential. Also by agreement, discussions will cease if they are a distraction to Robinson’s performance and leadership of the 2013 Yankees.”

    In other words, “Go eff yourself Brian, I’m not playing this game with you.”

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    I don’t read it that way Chip.

  14. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    By the way, do you know when he first mentioned that $189 wasn’t etched in stone?

    Also, Against, not everyone makes their work product known to the whole world

    ———————–

    First time he mentioned it was earlier in the off season.

    The Yankees have made their plans known more than once. They have been talking about lowering payroll since 07/08. They made their build from with plan known since what 06 when Cashman took full control.

  15. Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    You think this years team is better on paper then making the ALCS?

  16. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    Mister Tom-

    One to a righty. One to a lefty.

    Guess you could say the pitch is effective.

    I’d never seen him before. Only heard about him.

    ;)

  17. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Sorry I don’t understand the question. Are you asking if I think they’ll make the ALCS?

  18. Against All Odds February 28th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 7:18 pm
    You think this years team is better on paper then making the ALCS?

    ———————–

    Yes she does weeks ago many ppl gave their predictions and hers were in the high 90s

  19. blake February 28th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    MTU,
    Did you know that rumor is we are the same person?

  20. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Trisha -

    That’s how I read it. As a “we’re not talking about this; we wanted to talk about it once and you ripped us in the press. Now we’re taking high road so go spin in the corner.”

  21. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Blake-

    Who says this ?

  22. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    blake February 28th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    MTU,
    Did you know that rumor is we are the same person?
    —————-

    Be a serious case of talking to yourself if that was true.

  23. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Blake-

    I am your evil twin.

    :)

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Chip, well knowing Boras, you could be on to something. Of course, I’d prefer to think he means that it just won’t be played out publicly.

    :)

  25. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Did you all see Austin’s triple ?

    He smoked that sucker.

    :)

  26. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Chip, well knowing Boras, you could be on to something. Of course, I’d prefer to think he means that it just won’t be played out publicly.
    ———————

    Problem is that the Yankees seem to want to negotiate publicly to overcome the perception that they’re cheap.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Chip – maybe you’re right about that too. Or negotiate publicly to overcome the perception that they’re not negotiating. I guess I’m just happy they’re doing it because I really want Robby to stay!

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Has anyone ever taken the time to pull apart the drawers where they keep all their “junk” and rearrange them? Bad idea. I’ve been at it a while. I also realize I have to break down and buy a tool box. My Carlos 1 Pedro Domecq Brandy Box just isn’t doing it anymore.

    :(

    Off to Lowes.

  29. Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Trisha,

    Do you think this team is good enough to make the ALCS?

  30. Shame Spencer February 28th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Chip February 28th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    4:45pm: Scott Boras didn’t comment on the offer, telling CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman that “Robinson is focused on preparing for and playing the 2013 season. By agreement discussions shall remain confidential. Also by agreement, discussions will cease if they are a distraction to Robinson’s performance and leadership of the 2013 Yankees.”

    In other words, “Go eff yourself Brian, I’m not playing this game with you.”

    ——————–

    Spot on, Chip. Boras isn’t going to let any public pressure (because Brian, by mentioning it, knew Robbie would then be asked about it by the media.. probably non-stop all season) change the course of these negotiations.

    I’m good with losing Cano if they use that money wisely. I’m better with keeping him and seeing that adorable smile for another decade.

    ST has been good thus far. We always end up with a losing record lol, but that’s just because we have so many young guys that need to get face time. I’m just thrilled about Almonte. It seemed like a real long shot he’d have a chance this year and he’s come out ready to make his case.

  31. Bronx Jeers February 28th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Cashman did say they got a response but wouldnt sY what it is. Francesca then asked if they could maybe get a “kernel” of what it was. Cash said that he wouldn’t bye cause kernels tend to pop.

    The impression I got was that the offer was denied.

  32. Shame Spencer February 28th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    The Yanks are usually in stealth mode.. the fact that they went public with this info about Cano tells us something. What exactly that is will be debated, but let’s all agree this isn’t exactly business as usual for them, right?

  33. Shame Spencer February 28th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Mike Trout in these Subway commercials = hehehehehehehe.

  34. Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    They probably went to public to use against the backlash if he signs elsewhere

  35. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    IMO the only way Hal backs off of 189 is if the Team tanks.

    Short of that I think it’s game on.

    He didn’t come this far only to turn back now unless he feels he has no other choice.

    Not only that, I hypothesize that he wants to sell.

    If that is true he will not put anymore money into the team than he has to. He’ll keep the cow just fat enough to go to market. No more. No less.

    Go ahead. Prove me wrong Hal.

    I’ll be glad to apologize if I’m wrong.

    ;)

  36. FiretheUMPIRE February 28th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    I can’t get jazzed up over these negotiations. I guess I’m kind of spoiled. After Jeter, Bernie, Posada, Mo, Andy being dished out big dollars over and over again I’m confident the Yankees can keep who they want to keep and they want to keep Cano. They’ll use any negotiating tactic possible to keep the price in check but ultimately they will pay him whatever he wants. In turn, some players will need to be cut loose: Granderson, Hughes, Kuroda, Youkilis (obviously) Joba and maybe Gardner. And maybe the Dodgers would be willing to take Arod for 5 million/year if the Yankees just make it clear that he’s not going to play enough to reach his performance bonuses or chase historic marks in pursuit of personal glory.

  37. blake February 28th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    “MTU says:
    February 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm
    Blake-

    Who says this ?”

    Just read it a time or two….obviously you’re much too wise to be me

  38. blake February 28th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    @BobKlap: #Yankees’ proclamation of “significant” offer to Cano is to placate fans as @JoelSherman1 says. Little chance Cano/Boras pass up free agency

  39. Triple Short of a Cycle February 28th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    @BobKlap: #Yankees’ proclamation of “significant” offer to Cano is to placate fans as

    ————————————–

    Exactly what I said. They think Yankee fans are morons

  40. MTU February 28th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Blake-

    Only difference is that when you pull teeth you use an anesthetic.

    I just use a piece of string attached to a doorknob.

    I’m also old and you’re young.

    ;)

  41. Nilsson February 28th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Keep in mind that Boras counsels Elvis Andrus too. If/when Elvis hits the FA market, he’ll be just 26 yrs old. It’s less than 2 short years away. I’m thinking his impending free agency is somehow involved when it comes to the trade-off discussed on a long-term Cano contract. I’m guessing more so at the Yankee home office. Boras gets to play kingmaker in these next two years.

  42. RadioKev February 28th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Going back to the last post:

    Nilsson February 28th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
    Just to add to KLaw’s statement there, deception is also part of a pitcher’s skill set. Something in D-Rob’s delivery also plays up his fastball. His 92 looks like 95+ to hitters. It’s likely why Montgomery also has silly peripherals.

    Actually, for Robertson it’s not deception. It’s extension. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  43. tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    Unlike many of you, I realize I am finite and mortal. My strategic plan involves selling this house, business and furnishings right after Master’s Week and taking a vacation, which I haven’t had for many years. It also involves watching some of these kids become Yankees and winning the World Series. This year. It involves going to my step-daughter’s wedding in May, and following the adventures of my own daughters in these interesting times.

    Signing anyone for ten years to do any job exceeds my understanding, even though I’ve seen it done in the past, and although I can read ledgers and accounts as well as anyone, they don’t interest me anymore. I want to watch baseball. It doesn’t inflict the misery on me, win or lose. It’s my recreation, as playing the game used to be (but of course, it was more life or death back then).

    The games today were entertaining, and the kids outplayed the vets. That was fun!

  44. blake February 28th, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    Nice post Tom

  45. Bronx Jeers February 28th, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    I don’t doubt that an offer was made. But I doubt it was near anything he would be worth on the open market this November. Could easily be a $30MM difference. But that’s how extensions work.

  46. blake February 28th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Yanks probably made a 6 year offer…..Boras is probably at 10…..

  47. tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    Thanks, blake.

  48. FiretheUMPIRE February 28th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    If you can convince Cano that publicly leaking said offer was an attempt to placate fans then you’re sending the message to him that his price is too high and ultimately you won’t be able to meet it, thus you have to prepare for backlash now.

    They know he wants to remain a Yankee.

    It’s a game of chicken.

  49. Bronx Jeers February 28th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    6 years/ $120MM would make him the highest paid 2B in baseball. That’s significant. But he should get 7 years $150MM fairly easy as a free agent.

    Or he could hit .275 with 15 HRs and get half that.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue February 28th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Triple, if everyone stays healthy, I think this team can win the ALCS. If everyone shows up and plays, I think they can win the World Series. But we all know there can be many a slip between the cup and the lip. The unknown is always the wild card, right? (I don’t mean wild card as in playoff team!)

    **********

    I think I’m in the tomingeorgia arena, though not necesarily with the same particulars. My dad used to tell us that any day we could get out of bed was a good day. The lessons of our fathers. I look forward to watching our guys. . The rest really doesn’t interest me. It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t interest anyone else. But I’m thrilled just to be able to watch them play. And unless and until the organization gives me real reason to believe that they’re not interested in winning, I believe in the organization too. As one of my brothers is aways wont to say, the only perfect person to walk the earth was crucified…

  51. Bronx Jeers February 28th, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    As one of my brothers is aways wont to say, the only perfect person to walk the earth was crucified…

    —————-

    Was he talking about when Mariano got booed?

  52. pkyankfan69 February 28th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 8:23 pm
    Unlike many of you, I realize I am finite and mortal. My strategic plan involves selling this house, business and furnishings right after Master’s Week and taking a vacation, which I haven’t had for many years
    —————————————————–
    If you lived in NJ instead of GA and if were willing to give me a good deal on the house we could be in business together… Unfortunately that is a lot of ifs. At first I thought buying a house was going to be fun, now it’s just stressful.

    If the Yanks aren’t going to stick to $189M or below in the future than we should sign Cano, if they are sticking to the budget they should let him walk as it’s probably too late in the game to trade him unless the Yanks tank early this year.

  53. FiretheUMPIRE February 28th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Where are you looking? I have a home for sale oceanfront in Fairfield, CT. Asking $750K, have offers in the high 600′s.

  54. pkyankfan69 February 28th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Central NJ and you are quite a bit out of my price range on my first home purchase.

  55. tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    pkyankfan69,
    If this house were in NJ, on seven acres, let’s say, Far Hills, you’d probably need the 189. It isn’t, though, so let’s deal!

  56. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    It strikes me as strange – for years the Yankees, Cashman specifically, have acted all haughty and pissed whenever an agent or player would talk about negotiations with the team in public. Now all the Yankees want to do is negotiate through the press. First with Jeter, now Cano.

  57. Chip February 28th, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Bronx Jeers February 28th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    6 years/ $120MM would make him the highest paid 2B in baseball. That’s significant. But he should get 7 years $150MM fairly easy as a free agent.

    Or he could hit .275 with 15 HRs and get half that.
    ——————

    He’s not going to hit .275 with 15hrs. And the contract he’ll get (my bet is from Washington) will be closer to 8 years at $24 per year.

  58. RadioKev February 28th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Chip February 28th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
    It strikes me as strange – for years the Yankees, Cashman specifically, have acted all haughty and pissed whenever an agent or player would talk about negotiations with the team in public. Now all the Yankees want to do is negotiate through the press. First with Jeter, now Cano.
    ——–

    But again, not CC…

  59. pkyankfan69 February 28th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    tomingeorgia February 28th, 2013 at 8:50 pm
    If this house were in NJ, on seven acres, let’s say, Far Hills, you’d probably need the 189. It isn’t, though, so let’s deal!
    ———————————-
    Yikes, I’m not down with the property tax in Jersey on a 1/4 – 1/2 acre.

    Damn my friends, family, and job for being here!!!

  60. pkyankfan69 February 28th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    On a positive note, I am about 30 minutes from the Trenton Thunder and my GF usually gets a bunch of left over tickets from her job… This is going to be a particularly exciting year in Trenton.

  61. Shame Spencer February 28th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    CC already had a huge deal… and got a better one!

    Plus the dude has a family and, one could argue, more incentive to want to stay in one place. Players play for tons of teams as they move through various levels in amateur and pro leagues.. they don’t have the same loyalty to the team that the fans do. For some guys being a Yankee isn’t the end-all-be-all (though I also admittedly struggle with this concept myself lol).

  62. hardwired7 February 28th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    “…and Mustelier made the catch despite an almost perfect tackle by Heathcott.”

    Heathcott’s football background already paying dividends.

  63. coolerking101 March 1st, 2013 at 9:10 am

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