Spring training Game 8: Yankees vs. Phillies
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YANKEES (1-6)
Eduardo Nunez SS
Francisco Cervelli C
Robinson Cano 2B
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Juan Rivera DH
Melky Mesa LF
Thomas Neal RF
Kyle Roller 1B
Adonis Garcia CF
RHP Hiroki Kuroda (16-11, 3.32 ERA in 2012
Kuroda vs. Phillies
PHILLIES (2-3)
Jimmy Rollins SS
Ben Revere CF
Chase Utley 2B
Ryan Howard 1B
Michael Young 3B
Domonic Brown LF
Darin Ruf DH
John Mayberry RF
Steven Lerud C
RHP Roy Halladay (11-8, 4.49 ERA in 2012)
Halladay vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network
WEATHER: A pretty cool day by Tampa standards. Temperatures in the low 60s and upper 50s.
UMPIRES: HP Mark Carlson, 1B Eric Cooper, 2B Marty Foster, 3B Mark Wegner
FIRST TIMER: This is Hiroki Kuroda’s spring debut. “I don’t think you can expect him to do much more than he did for us last year,” Joe Girardi said yesterday. “He was great.”
BACK IN THE LINEUP: Kevin Youkilis returns to the lineup after feeling a cramp in his left side earlier in the week. Youkilis has downplayed the severity of the injury ever since it happened. Girardi has said Youkilis might get only one at-bat today; typical Yankees caution with spring injuries.
WHAT TO WATCH: This is a second consecutive day behind the plate for Francisco Cervelli. So far he’s 4-for-5 throwing out base runners this spring. … Another turn at shortstop for Eduardo Nunez. He’s made one error this spring. He’s also hitting just .182 so far. … This should be either the last opportunity, or one of the last opportunities, for the Yankees to see Melky Mesa before he leaves for the World Baseball Classic. Players are leaving for the WBC on Sunday, and Mesa played yesterday, so he probably won’t get in tomorrow’s game. … Second spring appearance for Dave Robertson and Joba Chamberlain. Also another chance for Vidal Nuno to show something. He was pretty sharp in his spring debut.
UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: Sorry for those technical issues. We’re in the bottom of the first inning here in Tampa. The Phillies scored twice in the top half of the inning — one run unearned because of a Kyle Roller error — and the Yankees have put two on in the bottom of the inning.
Also, because of the technical issues, I couldn’t post that Phil Hughes is hoping to throw a baseball on Sunday. He was originally shooting for Tuesday, but the program has been accelerated because he’s making such steady progress. He seems confident. Throwing on Sunday should give him a realistic chance to be ready to break camp with the team.
UPDATE, 1:39 p.m.: Rough spring debut for Kuroda. Now Robertson in to get out of this mess.
UPDATE, 1:43 p.m.: Robertson ends the inning with a strikeout on a 92 mph fastball. Only one of Kuroda’s four runs was earned — a Youkilis error should have been the final out of the second inning — but he did walk a guy and allow three hits, including a two-run double by Jimmy Rollins. Not a horrible outing, just didn’t seem especially sharp. Plenty of time to get that fixed.
UPDATE, 1:54 p.m.: Pretty good play by Youkilis, who was essentially playing shortstop on the shift.
UPDATE, 2:01 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain got two quick outs in the third, but he’s since allowed a single, two walks and another single — this one driving in two runs — to let the Phillies extend their lead to 6-0. The RBI single came on a 95 mph fastball according to the YES broadcast.
UPDATE, 2:18 p.m.: RBI single by Cano has the Yankees on the board, but a double by Juan Rivera goes nowhere. It’s now 6-1. Here’s Vidal Nuno in the game for the Yankees, and Addison Maruszak in the game for Youkilis at third.
UPDATE, 2:22 p.m.: Maruszak actually has a good arm, but that throw was way off line as the Yankees generally sloppy start to spring training continues. That’s three errors this game, and there could have been a fourth.
UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: Clearly Rollins thought Utley had walked, but it’s still another caught stealing for Cervelli.
UPDATE, 3:08 p.m.: Just got up from the clubhouse where Hiroki Kuroda said his fastball wasn’t bad, but his offspeed pitches — especially his curveball — let him down. The double by Rollins was a cutter that didn’t cut.
UPDATE, 3:10 p.m.: There’s a solo shot by Ronnier Mustelier. Had a conversation about him with a Yankees official today. The general idea was this: Bad outfielder, but passable; Very good hitter, as long as he doesn’t try to over do it.
UPDATE, 3:43 p.m.: There’s another home run for Mesa. His combination of speed, power and defense could make him an ideal candidate for this short-term opening in left (with the chance of extending that into a lasting role off the bench). He’s certainly looked pretty good so far this spring. It’s 10-5, by the way.
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Nunez swung at a curve in the other batter’s box
Sounds like Soriano 2.
Who broke it this time?
Jerkface March 1st, 2013 at 1:17 pm
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Nunez swung at a curve in the other batter’s box
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So did Ruf so we’re even.
Many empty seats in Tampa. Is that normal or not?
Defense looking just stellar again…
how does Halladay look? I”m having technical difficulites
how does Halladay look? I”m having technical difficulites
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Pretty good. Radar gun wasnt workin when he was throwing as far as I know but he got a ton of swings and misses.
The Yanks defense so far has been just dreadful all the way around
If Hallday is back and Utley can stay healthy then that NL east is gonna be crazy
So glad we’re back… I get very concerned every time LoHud doesn’t work properly that my employer might be on to me…..!!
you know you need faster internet when you can watch the game on 4G but not Wi-Fi
Yanks should sign Hallday this winter if the Phillies don’t retain him.
The Phillies might be a great example of why pitching isn’t always key lol.. they have a lot of holes on the other side of the ball.
The Nats are taking that division… but damn, it might turn into one hell of a race. Poor Mets fans lol.
blake March 1st, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Yanks should sign Hallday this winter if the Phillies don’t retain him.
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He can replace Hughes, Kuroda or Pettitte – Team Greedy is down with that plan!
Cano is so good.;…
Cano Lovers should take a good look at Utley.
Oh snap that was Youk!
Not for nothing, I have now started to cringe every time I hear Girardi or Cashman speaking.
Mainly with Girardi I can’t deal with the nicknames, it just annoys me a lot more than it should.
if Halladay is healthy I’d imagine they’ll pick up his 2014 option whether its guaranteed or not though…..
Chip March 1st, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Not for nothing, I have now started to cringe every time I hear Girardi or Cashman speaking.
Mainly with Girardi I can’t deal with the nicknames, it just annoys me a lot more than it should.
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Probably because it comes off as cheesy. When it started it was a nice little thing but then it evolved into Jonesy, Cervy, etc.
“Cano Lovers should take a good look at Utley.”
why? He got hurt or he’d probably still be good….
Girardi is just annoying with the nicknames but for the most part he just says nothing and is pretty bland…….Cashman has no filter anymore….he’ll pretty much just say anything.
Chris Perez out a month with a bad shoulder – waiting for Cashman to trade Heathcott for him.
Carl Crawford has a setback in his rehab
not the best day for the Yanks…..Big Stein would be fuming
Cano lovers, like myself, need to look at their budget, nothing else.
I don’t see the Phil’s voluntarily paying a 37 year old pitcher $20MM.
Can’t get that third out today.
Against All Odds March 1st, 2013 at 1:58 pm
Chip March 1st, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Not for nothing, I have now started to cringe every time I hear Girardi or Cashman speaking.
Mainly with Girardi I can’t deal with the nicknames, it just annoys me a lot more than it should.
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Probably because it comes off as cheesy. When it started it was a nice little thing but then it evolved into Jonesy, Cervy, etc.
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It’s every damn player. He can’t call any player just by their name:
Hughesie
Noonie
Stewie
Rapper (Rapada)
Boonie
Jete
Al
Tex
Gardy
Mo (well that’s ok)
Robbie (for Cano that’s fine but he uses it for Robertson also)
so much forced nonsense from him. And the fact that he’s bland and whenever he says something of import I look closely to see if I can see Brian’s hand up Joe’s back.
Brian not only has no filter, but he’s so negative almost all the time. I was shocked that when asked about Almonte he had positive things to say about him it’s so against character I figured he must be saying it to pump his trade value.
I agree on the option\Halladay. As Horatio would say, “Just walk away”.
“I don’t see the Phil’s voluntarily paying a 37 year old pitcher $20MM.”
if he pitches like Doc Halladay then why not? 1 year deal…..
Mike Trout of the Angels needs to figure out exactly how overweight he was when he reported to camp and how much weight he has lost since camp opened.
Last night on ESPN the reports were Trout was 10-15 overweight coming to camp, but Trout himself said he reported to camp 8-9 lbs overweight.
Then today Rosenthal tweeted about Trout being 3 lbs overweight.
What’s the story?
Just looking at his face it certainly looks like Trout added 15 lbs and didn’t enjoy
a salad from time to time during the off-season
well if they do walk away then the Yanks should sign him….
great piece of hitting by Cervelli! Cervelli! Cervelli!
Rich in NJ March 1st, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Cano lovers, like myself, need to look at their budget, nothing else.
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Even if the Yankees were committed to a $400 mil payroll giving Cano 8 years would be a bad idea.
Of all their FA’s (and potential FAs) the only one I see coming back is Jeter.
Hughes, Logan, Joba, Kuroda, Granderson, Cano, Andy, Rivera will all either sign elsewhere or retire.
Cervelli 2 for two with a standing double to right center. Hey, Cisco!
“Last night on ESPN the reports were Trout was 10-15 overweight coming to camp, but Trout himself said he reported to camp 8-9 lbs overweight.
Then today Rosenthal tweeted about Trout being 3 lbs overweight.
What’s the story?”
he reported 8-9 over and has already lost like 5 lbs…..it’s really not a big deal…..it’s about as big a deal as the Derek Eater stuff……
“Even if the Yankees were committed to a $400 mil payroll giving Cano 8 years would be a bad idea.”
nah…if there is no budget then they need to keep him because the offense will suck without him
Francisco motors to the plate!
that’s what I want to see Cano do this year…..show that his 2012 vs LHP was just a fluke….great piece of hitting
if he pitches like Doc Halladay then why not? 1 year deal…..
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Maybe if they’re serious contenders. It’s possible they could trade him too.
blake March 1st, 2013 at 2:12 pm
“Even if the Yankees were committed to a $400 mil payroll giving Cano 8 years would be a bad idea.”
nah…if there is no budget then they need to keep him because the offense will suck without him
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An 8 year contract is about 3 years to many.
How old will Cano be if he signs for 8 years? Around 39 years of age. Difficult to say the team will get value from the contract during the 2nd half of the contract.
Ugh!!!
if they are going on ST performance then Cervy is widening his lead
“An 8 year contract is about 3 years to many.”
not with a 400 million dollar payroll….when he gets old just buy somebody else!
Mesa don’t get cheated up there that’s for sure
Cervelli doesn’t have much HR power but he’s not a bad hitter. It’s his throwing that has impressed me the most so far.
blake March 1st, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Mesa don’t get cheated up there that’s for sure
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Reminds me of a defensively capable Wily Mo Pena
Cervy has been impressive while Romine appears to be hardly getting a chance to
show his skills so far this spring.
Just as long as the Yankees take the best two catchers up north, that’s all I want.
Something tells me the two that make the team out of ST won’t be there for
the entire 162 game season.
so much forced nonsense from him. And the fact that he’s bland and whenever he says something of import I look closely to see if I can see Brian’s hand up Joe’s back.
Brian not only has no filter, but he’s so negative almost all the time. I was shocked that when asked about Almonte he had positive things to say about him it’s so against character I figured he must be saying it to pump his trade value.
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Yea Joe G does go overboard with the names especially when the nick name is longer than the person’s actually name.
Cashman seems like he’s really stressed out.
Yea it’s probably a pump and dump
Cervelli beasting all spring
Jerkface March 1st, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Cervelli beasting all spring
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I’m not going to get too excited about his offense; but what has impressed me is how in command he seems behind the plate.
Honestly I think the only catching decision is whether Cervelli or Stewart will be the primary….seems they have already decided Romine is AAA bound ….and so far it’s pretty clear that Cervelli should catch most of he time.
Adonis can hit!. Don’t know why they put him CF though. He profiles as more of a corner OF
did Buster tweet that the Yankees would offer Cano 7/189?
“I’m not going to get too excited about his offense; but what has impressed me is how in command he seems behind the plate.”
I think we know he can hit good enough….only question was whether he could defend well enough….and so far he is
Another nice at bat by Cervelli, a seven-pitch walk off Papelbon.
You hang ‘em, we bang ‘em.
Nice to see this loser get knocked around.
Cervelli has done his work…..put Sanchez in!
Following the golf on TV. McIlroy withdrew due to impacted wisdom teeth, soon to be extracted. From the hysteria on the news, you’d think he’d been shot in the chest. Who can play golf through that kind of pain?
Nice three innings by Nuno.
“Following the golf on TV. McIlroy withdrew due to impacted wisdom teeth, soon to be extracted. From the hysteria on the news, you’d think he’d been shot in the chest. Who can play golf through that kind of pain?”
probably had something to do with him being +7 as well….
Mustelier bomb!
Opposite field even
Ronnie! Opposite field HR, very nice.
Musty is the RH DH.
What is that thing crawling under Joba’s nose?
Musty!
blake,
Maybe the teeth had something to do with the 7-over, too. But then, I never expected pity from a dentist.
Don’t need Soriano. Musteilier seems more than capable of filling the RH platoon role, and he makes more consistent contact.
blake is a freelance dentist.
would be nice if they’d at least consider Musty
“Maybe the teeth had something to do with the 7-over, too. But then, I never expected pity from a dentist.”
of course….
I doubt Musty gets a whiff on the club, but I think he would put up better numbers than Rivera or Diaz. Maybe he’ll get called up mid-season.
Sanchez just got hosed…..by the book that’s a strike but that pitch is never called a strike
they need a rh dh, rivera will start in LF, diaz odd man out.
Musty does a good job of going oppo … Several hits to right field. That’s a good sign for a hitter, a guy who can let the ball travel deep in the zone and do something with it. It’s a skill that this older, bat speed-challenged roster could sorely use.
@DKnobler
Dusty on Choo: “I call him Mr. Choo.”
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If we had signed him he’d be Choo-y!! Chooie and Stewie…
Rivera can’t play LF in YS and he can’t hit RHP at all…..
Sanchez fielded that well, although not particularly hard.
Sanchez nice little play there….
Ichiro will play LF for the time being. He has the legs for it.
Almonte will hopefully get the nod in RF.. maybe Musty can make a push so we don’t need to deal with Rivera/Diaz.
not a hard play but he moved pretty darn quickly and the arm strength is obvious…..
I’m tired of watching Cody Eppley pitch
Isn’t a blimp covering ST a little overkill?
if rivera cant play LF then ichiro will.
i did see rivera throw out a runner at 3rd from RF
the lefty OF till grandy returns is not here yet.
Rivera can’t hit RHP….I can’t imagine they’d play him every day….he’s a platoon guy
Musty Almonte has a nice ring to it ..,
mick March 1st, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Musty is the RH DH.
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Someone reads the LoHud.
saw almonte rap an oppo hr at disney.
zoilo/rivera platoon, musty/hafner at DH.
let’s see what the youngins can do.
heathcott is a sleeper for a few games in the OF.
Between Eppley and the defense this is ugly
Eppley pitching his way off this team
Musty is 28 years old…..why not give him a shot….he has done nothing but hit since they got him?
musty as the RHDH.
The Yankees will never win another game in ST.
Get all the losing out now, run the table in the regular season.
@injuryexpert
Carl Crawford shut down with nerve irritation. Common after TJ — even Tommy John himself had the issue.
did tommy john have tommy john surgery or was it named after he had his?
Didn’t Elvis Andrus shut himself down because his new tattoo itched or something
Melky!
zoilo/rivera platoon, musty/hafner at DH.
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I would say Zoilo/Rivera and Nunez/Hafner at HD (Nunez will back up SS and Nix will back 2b and 3b, also lf if necessary).
At this point there’s no reason to go with Rivera or Diaz over Mesa/Almonte/Mustelier.
If there is going to be an actual fair competition for Granderson’s position, it has to come down to Mesa and Almonte (Juan Rivera can be the 4th OF, but he cannot adequately patrol LF)….
I doubt the Yanks would carry Musty and Almonte, but it wouldn’t bother me a bit.
wallace matthews ?@ESPNNYYankees
New outfield: Melky and Musty go deep for Yankees today. Zoological’s turn next
“At this point there’s no reason to go with Rivera or Diaz over Mesa/Almonte/Mustelier.”
I can’t think of a reason
Bring on the Baby Bombers!
I would love if the Yankees used this opp to bring Mesa or Almonte and Musty. I highly doubt they bring BOTH Mesa and Almonte though. But one of those two should be the everyday OF while grandy is out. Musty can be the 4th OF if he earns it over Rivera.
“If there is going to be an actual fair competition for Granderson’s position, it has to come down to Mesa and Almonte (Juan Rivera can be the 4th OF, but he cannot adequately patrol LF)….”
yea….Musty is sorta a waste at AAA at his age too though….if he can hit then get him on the roster instead of Rivera or another old blob
blake March 1st, 2013 at 3:44 pm
“At this point there’s no reason to go with Rivera or Diaz over Mesa/Almonte/Mustelier.”
I can’t think of a reason
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I don’t mean to sound like a broken record but I still think they end up going with Rivera and Diaz with the “logic” being that both of them can walk away from minor league assignments.
The fact that Almonte and Mesa are both on the 40 works in their favor.
I would say Mustelier has no chance of cracking the 25.
They’re afraid of Mustelier now.
js,
Who’s afraid of him? Or did I miss something?
I agree Yankees give no indication Musty will ever crack the 25 man, but Zoo and Mesa are on the 40. Sometimes i wish the Yankees would have one of those collapses to force them to deal with reality like the Sox did last year. I dont like to lose but i can certainly accept one year sacrifice for a better future…
The thing with Mustelier is that if he keeps hitting, Diaz or Rivera has to be added to the 40 man and Mustelier can easily take their place.
He is in the hole a bit not being on the 40 man, but neither is Rivera/Diaz. Rivera has been hitting so I think he is still in the lead.
Honestly I think Diaz is probably already nearly out of consideration. Everyone else is looking much better.
Jeez… Heathcott could teach some of our other outfielders a thing or two…
Kahnle getting it up to 96
tomingeorgia March 1st, 2013 at 3:54 pm
js,
Who’s afraid of him? Or did I miss something?
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Walked him after he went deep.
Jerkface March 1st, 2013 at 3:56 pm
The thing with Mustelier is that if he keeps hitting, Diaz or Rivera has to be added to the 40 man and Mustelier can easily take their place.
He is in the hole a bit not being on the 40 man, but neither is Rivera/Diaz. Rivera has been hitting so I think he is still in the lead.
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Yeah but the Yankees can send Mustelier (I’m not calling him Musty) to AAA and call him up at a later date. Rivera and Diaz can walk away from a minor league assignment.
Knowing the Yankees, they will use the excuse of the Granderson injury to get a longer look at the two veterans.
Oh, yeah, they did. He also took it. Good for him.
Yea Chip, the Yankees always do the thing that gives them the most options, even if its taking a sucky vet over a young guy that they might benefit from down the road.
The thing with Mustelier is he is in his prime, they’re wasting him
Jerkface March 1st, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Yea Chip, the Yankees always do the thing that gives them the most options, even if its taking a sucky vet over a young guy that they might benefit from down the road.
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Yeah, I mean I’m hoping like hell for Almonte and Mesa (or Almonte and a trade for a viable RH outfielder) but I’m also trying to balance that hope with what I’ve seen the Yankees do before with veterans like this.
Think about what Cash and Girardi have said about the catchers, that they’re likely to take Stewart and Cervelli because they’re out of options and Romine has options left; it’s the same scenario. Romine’s better than Stewart and probably better than Cervelli at this stage too, but rather than “risk” losing Stewart at the outset of the season they’ll carry the two guys that might not be the best two guys but give them the most options.
Is high heat Sanchez’s problem? Looked like it there.
Sanchez had a good hack at a 0-1 fastball….then chased one up….I like his swing and he seems pretty patient up there…..
Jerkface March 1st, 2013 at 4:06 pm
The thing with Mustelier is he is in his prime, they’re wasting him
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I agree and it sucks because he could be a viable back up at all four corners and serve as the RH DH. He might not be good defensively, but he’s more versatile than Diaz and Rivera too.
My guess is that even if Rivera and Diaz break camp with the Yankees both will be gone by June.
” Romine’s better than Stewart and probably better than Cervelli”
I don’t think that Romine would outhit Cervelli this season.
I think he kinda got messed up because they called 2 pitches up in the zone strikes on him…..1 fastball up in his first AB then a breaking ball up that last AB…..probably didn’t want to swing at that pitch really but with 2 strikes probably felt like he had to
“I don’t think that Romine would outhit Cervelli this season.”
I don’t much think he would either…..Romine missed most of last year and he really didn’t hit much in the fall league either…..probably wouldn’t hurt him to get a little more AAA time.
UPDATE, 3:10 p.m.: There’s a solo shot by Ronnier Mustelier. Had a conversation about him with a Yankees official today. The general idea was this: Bad outfielder, but passable; Very good hitter, as long as he doesn’t try to over do it.
UPDATE, 3:43 p.m.: There’s another home run for Mesa. His combination of speed, power and defense could make him an ideal candidate for this short-term opening in left (with the chance of extending that into a lasting role off the bench). He’s certainly looked pretty good so far this spring.
Another good day for the kids, loss or not. Let’em play!
How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.
“How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.”
lol….Jorge Posada aint walking through that tunnel
“How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.”
They stockpiled catchers for a reason. I’m still trying to figure out what it is.
“The general idea was this: Bad outfielder, but passable;”
could say this about Rivera or Diaz too
And the worst of it is, here I am hoping Cervelli starts.
blake March 1st, 2013 at 4:19 pm
“The general idea was this: Bad outfielder, but passable;”
could say this about Rivera or Diaz too
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I don’t think Rivera or Diaz are passable.
Ibanez wasn’t a good outfielder, but the Yanks got away with it. I’d like to see what Mustelier could do with some steady ABs.
Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2013 at 4:19 pm
And the worst of it is, here I am hoping Cervelli starts.
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It’s called coming to grips with reality. Right now he’s the best of a bad situation.
blake March 1st, 2013 at 4:17 pm
“How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.”
lol….Jorge Posada aint walking through that tunnel
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And if he is he’s going to be gray and old.
Rich in NJ March 1st, 2013 at 4:18 pm
“How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.”
They stockpiled catchers for a reason. I’m still trying to figure out what it is.
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Because that’s the position that everyone in the game wants – Cashman
Anybody tell me what Cervelli, 26-year old catcher, has done wrong this spring?
“It’s called coming to grips with reality. Right now he’s the best of a bad situation.”
The Yanks will go with Stewart, wait and see.
Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Ibanez wasn’t a good outfielder, but the Yanks got away with it. I’d like to see what Mustelier could do with some steady ABs.
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Ibanez wasn’t good offensively or defensively, but offensively he was still better than what the Yankees would get from Rivera or Diaz.
I think Mustelier would be a good back up for the bench, but would like the starting job to go to one of the kids.
“I think Mustelier would be a good back up for the bench, but would like the starting job to go to one of the kids.”
Don’t think the kids would succeed yet. Mustelier might.
I like Mustelier to get a lot of ABs, if his bat is legit he’ll be worth something for a few seasons at least.
Yanks getting all their losses out of the way now. Saving wins for regular season. Good strategy.
“Because that’s the position that everyone in the game wants – Cashman”
I can’t believe I used to defend him.
Against All Odds March 1st, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Rich in NJ March 1st, 2013 at 4:18 pm
“How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.”
They stockpiled catchers for a reason. I’m still trying to figure out what it is.
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Because that’s the position that everyone in the game wants – Cashman
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What Cashman doesn’t understand is that everyone in the game wants good catchers. No one wants Chris Stewart or Bobby Wilson.
Wave Your Hat March 1st, 2013 at 4:26 pm
“I think Mustelier would be a good back up for the bench, but would like the starting job to go to one of the kids.”
Don’t think the kids would succeed yet. Mustelier might.
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That’s possible – neither Mesa or Almonte has much time over AA while Mustelier does.
Chip March 1st, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Against All Odds March 1st, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Rich in NJ March 1st, 2013 at 4:18 pm
“How depressing to be reduced to hoping Cervelli starts.”
They stockpiled catchers for a reason. I’m still trying to figure out what it is.
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Because that’s the position that everyone in the game wants – Cashman
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What Cashman doesn’t understand is that everyone in the game wants good catchers. No one wants Chris Stewart or Bobby Wilson.
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Apparently he didn’t get the memo.
“The Yanks will go with Stewart, wait and see.”
don’t say that…..don’t say that
Stewart will catch CC and maybe Kuroda – Cervelli will catch the other three.
“Stewart will catch CC and maybe Kuroda – Cervelli will catch the other three.”
I hope he only catches CC
If the catching Jon is a true competition, Cervelli is clearly leading. He has been very good. But, it is only March 1st. The WBC makes for a long spring.
I have liked Mesa more than I thought. He seems less of a complete wild swinger than I remember.
Mustelier can hit. They really need hitting. Someone on the 40 man has to go. I still say Almonte and Mustelier. Let’s take a bit of a risk with players who may have above average upsides. I do doubt they will give up the vets for the prospects.
Rich in NJ March 1st, 2013 at 4:27 pm
“Because that’s the position that everyone in the game wants – Cashman”
I can’t believe I used to defend him.
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Neither can I. But I try to be as fair as possible when it comes to Cashman. Although when I do that on RAB I get labeled a Cashman hater. How is it hate to point out his short comings.
Fact: He turned around the farm system. Can’t deny that
Fact: It is not the pipeline he claimed it would be. How is that hate
” Although when I do that on RAB…”
I have never seen a more teflon-coated GM.
“But I try to be as fair as possible when it comes to Cashman. Although when I do that on RAB I get labeled a Cashman hater. ”
Easy solution to this problem
So what about Nuno? He’s looked pretty good
He has what Cashman calls pitchability.
Cervelli’s visit to the Miami clinic appears to be paying off this spring – he is getting the ‘Melky bounce’ thus far.
austinmac March 1st, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Many empty seats in Tampa. Is that normal or not?
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might be a sign of things to come..hope not
Nuno is interesting. He looks like he can pitch with at least three pitches he can control. Starter or reliever? I think he will and should start at AAA. You can be sure in the long season starter needs will occur.
Rich in NJ March 1st, 2013 at 4:41 pm
” Although when I do that on RAB…”
I have never seen a more teflon-coated GM.
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He is Superman without a weakness over there.
Person: Yankees have done a poor job producing major league talent over the last few yrs
Person 2: Not true look Jeter, Posada, Mo, Andy, Nova, Hughes, Phelps, Joba, Drob, Gardner, Montero, Ajax, Melky, Kennedy,
Huh the first few guys came up 17-18 yrs ago and one is retired…the last few are no longer here, and the ones in the middle have had some good yrs and bad outside of Drob.
joeman March 1st, 2013 at 4:51 pm
austinmac March 1st, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Many empty seats in Tampa. Is that normal or not?
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might be a sign of things to come..hope not
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Empty seats in NY (and I’m not talking about the Legends seats) will mean the end of the 189 plan. While that’s a good thing overall, I fear it would also mean giving Cano a ridiculous/awful contract.
blake March 1st, 2013 at 4:45 pm
“But I try to be as fair as possible when it comes to Cashman. Although when I do that on RAB I get labeled a Cashman hater. ”
Easy solution to this problem
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Become a pom pom waver
I like RAB for the content and some of the commenters are ok but it’s a metrically driven “new age” type site …which attracts a lot of young commenters who honestly just seem to try and out snark each each…..I’ve posted there some because Axisa writes a lot of interesting stuff but it gets tiring defending every sentence against people picking nits and just being contrary….
Joeman,
I do think a downturn in attendance will occur. Last year ended depressingly and the winter raised no hopes. Excitement sells tickets. Trying not to be too much worse than last year does not.
lets not get to excited about Cervelli ….even though really didn’t care for his act Swish added a little juice to this team..
austinmac March 1st, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Joeman,
I do think a downturn in attendance will occur. Last year ended depressingly and the winter raised no hopes. Excitement sells tickets. Trying not to be too much worse than last year does not.
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they will take a hit at the gate how much depends on how they play, they get off to a slow start it might be a tough year
Blake,
The RAB folks didn’t take kindly to my hyperbole that the Pirates may be better than us in 2014. In truth, compare signed or controlled players for then and it is scary.
I agree a good start would greatly help fan interest. Losing Granderson is awfully unfortunate. A slow start will only amplify the negative feelings.
austinmac March 1st, 2013 at 5:03 pm
I agree a good start would greatly help fan interest. Losing Granderson is awfully unfortunate. A slow start will only amplify the negative feelings
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for sure
blake March 1st, 2013 at 4:56 pm
I like RAB for the content and some of the commenters are ok but it’s a metrically driven “new age” type site …which attracts a lot of young commenters who honestly just seem to try and out snark each each…..I’ve posted there some because Axisa writes a lot of interesting stuff but it gets tiring defending every sentence against people picking nits and just being contrary….
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JAP and I were talking about that a few days ago. It does have a room full of comedians feel to it with every other comment trying to out joke each other.
Axisa is one of the best. His articles are well written and they have a certain feel to them. I don’t know if cutting edge is the right word but I like his take on the Yankees.
Oh yea don’t throw rocks at the thrown because you’ll have to defend it with every last breath.
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