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Nix batting third vs. Red Sox

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 03, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner LF
Eduardo Nunez SS
Jayson Nix 2B
Juan Rivera DH
Dan Johnson 1B
Melky Mesa CF
Zoilo Almonte RF
Corban Joseph 3B
Bobby Wilson C

RHP Adam Warren

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97 Responses to “Nix batting third vs. Red Sox”

  1. FiretheUMPIRE March 3rd, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Hand-eye coordination is to an old hitter as location is to a pitcher with diminished velocity. Where the bat meets the ball matters.

    Dan Johnson? Where have I been?

  2. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 8:48 am

    No, I was just talking hitting.. like he can have great hand eye coordination but at some point if he can’t figure out how to make productive contact without the same bat speed the good hand-eye isn’t going to necessarily make up for it.
    ///

    Yeah well y’know Cano is a fairly decent contact hitter ;) so I’ll let you worry about that one :)

  3. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 8:48 am

    blake says:
    March 3, 2013 at 8:46 am
    “Cano is a special case as well. And while his approach isn’t Jeter’s he can put balls in play that Jeter can’t. And you also say Jeter’s smart. What about Cano”

    Swinging at those pitches gets Cano out a lot and the worry is it’ll get him out more often as he ages…..I didn’t say Cano wouldn’t make the adjustments….just said he would have to ….Jeter already has done it.

    Cano still could get even better if he’s swing at pitches he should hit more instead of pitches he can hit…..

  4. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 8:49 am

    From NY Post:
    “The Yankees assigned right-handed pitchers Corey Black, Matt Daley, Nick Goody, Shane Greene, Bryan Mitchell, Zach Nuding, Mike O’Brien and Ryan Pope. Also sent out was infielder Kyle Roller.”

    Any hopefuls in that group of 9 to wear the pinstripes with the parent club, besides Mitchell.

  5. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 8:49 am

    I would have liked to see the exit velocity on the ball Cano hit yesterday …..

  6. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 8:50 am

    Not exactly the A lineup vs boSox

  7. CountryClub March 3rd, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Austin will be a major leaguer. His swing will get results. The only question will be if he’ll develop enough power.

  8. CountryClub March 3rd, 2013 at 8:52 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 8:50 am
    Cano’s troubles against lefties won’t last. He’s historically hit them very well. Last season was a fluke.

    ———————–

    Hopefully.

  9. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Chad’s changed his Twitter picture again… he now looks less like Albie Manzo and more like one of my friend’s ex-boyfriends. Now I feel like a bad friend for still being obsessed with Chad.

    Chad Jennings: Tearing friendships apart.

  10. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 8:54 am

    CountryClub says:
    March 3, 2013 at 8:51 am
    Austin will be a major leaguer. His swing will get results. The only question will be if he’ll develop enough power.

    Eh Id take 15 homers and 35 doubles! I love his swing

  11. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 8:54 am

    I liked the metro mountain man photo better

  12. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 8:55 am

    @HeathcottSlade

    No matter what you do find a way to become a better person: physically, mentally, spiritually and make some1 else better #attacktheday

    Heathcott is all about ‘attacking’ everything. Someone should teach him to gently love the day along with everything else…

  13. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Looks like the 1:35 game in Fort Myers is not on TV until replay at 4:00 on the MLB channel. MLB.TV only broadcasting audio.

  14. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Looks like the 1:35 game in Fort Myers is not on TV until replay at 4:00 on the MLB channel. MLB.TV only broadcasting audio.

    —————-

    Not sure how things work out of market or where you’re located, Trader, but the game should be on YES live at 1:35pm

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Trader, I’ve only seen Roller once – sort of Giambi-esque in “type” is my off the cuff impression; and the one time I saw Nuding, down in Lakewood, he couldn’t find the strike zone. I know he’s got a big fastball. O’Brien I’ve seen, don’t see him as a future Yankee, not a big fan of Pope. I know GB liked him a bit, I don’t see it, myself.

  16. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Heathcott is awesome….I hope he chills out a bit and can play a full season

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Heathcott is all about ‘attacking’ everything. Someone should teach him to gently love the day along with everything else…
    ///

    Right, he’s the anti-Cano, in a way. When I finally got to see him over a few games (down in Lakewood a couple of years ago) I put him on my “untouchable” list, but I don’t really care for that disposition of his.

    There’s the “warrior” thing he’s got but I also fear with that, in his case, might be a lack of grounded-ness. I don’t want that in a player for obvious reasons. I hope he takes the best of that and leaves the rest; evolves a little.

  18. CountryClub March 3rd, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Eh Id take 15 homers and 35 doubles! I love his swing.

    —————

    I agree. I think Austin is the surest thing in the farm right now. His ceiling may not be as high as some others, but he’s going to hit.

  19. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:02 am

    “One has a heartwarming story and a bat that can’t be ignored. Another is an athletic switch-hitter. The final part of the troika has power, an above average throwing arm, sterling defensive abilities and was considered the second-best player in Dominican Winter League.”

    “Combined they cost the Yankees $450,000 to sign.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....WQdS0KXLZO

  20. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:04 am

    “I agree. I think Austin is the surest thing in the farm right now. His ceiling may not be as high as some others, but he’s going to hit.”

    He looks like a big leaguer in the box now to me….just his mannerisms and the ways he takes pitches…..he had a bad AB his very first AB of the spring but after that he’s been locked in….just doesn’t seem to get fooled a lot and seems to see the ball real well

  21. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:11 am

    I really hope they give the kids a chance both as the RH outfielder and to fill in for Granderson …

  22. austinmac March 3rd, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Has no one heard anything on Williams shoulder rehab?

  23. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:14 am

    @eboland11: Ichiro said car was nearly totaled but feels no soreness or pain. Will be evaluated by doctor as precaution but after he works out this a.m.

  24. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:15 am

    austinmac says:
    March 3, 2013 at 9:13 am
    Has no one heard anything on Williams shoulder rehab?

    Far as I’ve read it’s fine ….he’s tweeting normally

  25. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Thanks JAP for your input on those players that were sent down.

    Shame- I get the Phillies game on TV at 1:05, down here in the southeast.

    If you want the most ready hitter in the minors right now, it appears to me that Mustelier is ready.
    From what I’ve seen he has at least 3 line drive singles to right and a non wind aided homer to right, all off righties.

    Posted the above link to the 3 vying for a spot with the parent club. I wouldn’t mind seeing 2 really shine and force the Yankees to take them North instead of Diaz and Rivera.

  26. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:17 am

    @DanBarbarisi: Phil Hughes survives playing catch. Looks normal.

  27. austinmac March 3rd, 2013 at 9:17 am

    I’m glad we see Almonte and Mesa start.

  28. MG March 3rd, 2013 at 9:19 am

    If the Yankees are serious about building a team that is cost controlled then it makes no sense to keep guys like Rivera and Diaz for a month, they would be much better off giving guys like Almonte, Mustellier, and Mesa a shot with the big club.

    Even though Mustellier is the oldest of the group he has been with the Yankees the shortest time-both Almonte and Mesa signed very young and have been in the organization a long time.

    I really don’t see any downside with giving the prospects a shot, hopefully the Yankees see it the same way if they all continue to hit during the spring (it’s still early, no major league level pitcher is throwing all out yet).

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Thanks for posting, Trader.

    Wow, who was knocking Mustelier? He’s not a great fielder from what I can see on miLb-tv, but I still don’t want to read tales out of school from the organization about that. Is that what he’s responding to? I sure hope not.

    “I can play the outfield and the infield,’’ Mustelier said sternly. “If they say I have no position that is not true.’’

    That’s good to see Cano talking up Mesa. Can’t wait to watch him shag fly balls today.

  30. austinmac March 3rd, 2013 at 9:20 am

    Blake,

    Tweeting is pretty good evidence of good health, I would think.

    I wonder what Dickerson is up to? Does he tweet?

    Speaking of tweeters, I wonder about Aardsma and his 91-92 mph fastball. He was good when it was 96+. I think he will struggle unless his velocity significantly returns. He never had much command.

  31. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:22 am

    NY POST:

    TAMPA — Ichiro Suzuki avoided injury last night when his car collided with another vehicle.

    “He is fine,’’ Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said. “His interpreter called to let us know.’’

    Ichiro was headed south in his Land Rover on a Tampa highway around 4 p.m. when he hit Linda Trange Le, who failed to yield the right of way when making a left hand turn in front of Ichiro, according to Tampa police.

    “He struck her,” Tampa Lt. Ronald McMullen told The Post. “She ended up hitting a third car, but there were no injuries.”

    Trange Le was cited for the accident. Ichiro’s translator was at the scene when police arrived.

  32. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:22 am

    “I wonder what Dickerson is up to? Does he tweet?”

    I think so….

  33. MG March 3rd, 2013 at 9:22 am

    I’ll be at the game in Tampa on Tuesday night, no Cano, Tex or Jeter, I think Phelps is pitching…

  34. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Hahahahaha

    @HeathcottSlade

    No matter what you do find a way to become a better person: physically, mentally, spiritually and make some1 else better #attacktheday

    @JRMurphy513

    @HeathcottSlade Are you going to source where you get your information from or just continue to use all of my stuff?

  35. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:28 am

    JAP

    Mustelier made a nice running catch on the fly ball hit to the warning track in RF, holding onto it after some “crazy” person in a Yankee uniform tackled him to the ground! :).

    On the other hand, Almonte took a bad route on a short flyball to right that fell in for a single off Kahnle. That reinforced your previous posting about his outfield defense.

  36. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 9:29 am

    @LoHudYankees

    Matt Diaz just broke a bat vs. Pettitte. “Damn you,” Diaz said. “I only brought two, and Mariano hasn’t even gone yet.”

  37. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:30 am

    @LoHudYankees: Matt Diaz just broke a bat vs. Pettitte. “Damn you,” Diaz said. “I only brought two, and Mariano hasn’t even gone yet.”

  38. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:31 am

    @BenBadler: Japan improved to 2-0 with a 5-2 win vs. China, but they’ve looked vulnerable against two teams they should’ve smoked http://t.co/uSgcyECeaq

  39. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Shame-

    From NJ.com: Q-and A with Infielder Slade Heatcott

    It would be nice to have your work proofread-”Infielder”

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....elder.html

  40. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:38 am

    *Heathcott*

    Can’t blame my misspelling on proofreading! :)

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 9:39 am

    they would be much better off giving guys like Almonte, Mustellier, and Mesa a shot with the big club.
    ///

    I would like to see Almonte get more seasoning. He’s got to clean up his OF play before he can be a serious candidate, and I’d also like to see more ABs because he’s a switch hitter. They rushed Melky Cabrera and it took longer for his bat to blossom.

    Mesa, at 26, it’s time to let it rip. He may never walk enough or make enough contact, but I don’t think he loses developmental time if they try and get something out of him. He’s probably the best defender in the entire system, including the big club.

    Mustelier, yeah, he could have helped them last year. If they could suffer through a withered Ibanez in the OF last year, they can sneak Mustelier on and off the field. They need contact bats and he’s got a good one. And youth!

  42. blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:41 am

    @ESPNNYYankees: Diaz to Mo after beating a cutter into the ground: “how do you throw that thing?”

  43. randy l. March 3rd, 2013 at 9:45 am

    is it really in threes again?

    deja vu all over again.

    hughes, chamberlain, and kennedy – proof yankee development was working

    betances, baneulos, and brackman- proof yankee development was working

    montero, romine, and sanchez- proof yankee development was working

    .. and now austin tyler, slade heathcote, and mason williams-

    proof yankee development is working ?

    i’m not going to take the bait.

    when i see a guy starting in the major leagues who’s allowed to go through growing pains without being demoted, injured, or traded, i’ll get excited.

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:28 am

    JAP

    Mustelier made a nice running catch on the fly ball hit to the warning track in RF, holding onto it after some “crazy” person in a Yankee uniform tackled him to the ground! :) .

    On the other hand, Almonte took a bad route on a short flyball to right that fell in for a single off Kahnle. That reinforced your previous posting about his outfield defense.
    //

    Trader,

    LOL! I do worry about Heathcott’s judgment sometimes. Love the hustle and all that, but he really needs to be more aware of his surroundings and be more discriminating. In fairness, I didn’t see the play – I have been buried in work and haven’t gotten to see much – but I’ve heard about it.

    Almonte seriously needs work on “D”. He knows it; it’s the first thing he said when asked what he has to do: “work on my defense.” Amen. He could be a star. And what you described is unfortunately common in his play.

  45. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Mike Axisa wrote about Mustelier January 10th. I’m including the link, because it is the best link I could find on evaluating his play:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....ost-81189/

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 9:52 am

    when i see a guy starting in the major leagues who’s allowed to go through growing pains without being demoted, injured, or traded, i’ll get excited.
    ///

    Right. Put up or shut up about “the farm” Cashman.

  47. Chip March 3rd, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Good article on the three minor leaguers in the OF mix:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....WQdS0KXLZO

  48. randy l. March 3rd, 2013 at 10:02 am

    j.alpru-

    there’s a pattern emerging that doesn’t favor the yankees. there’s always this dangling carrot of two years down the road these guys will be the starting pitchers, or catchers, and now outfielders. well, it doesn’t happen.

    it’s not like there’s not some talent in the yankee minor leagues, but it has difficulty making the leap to the major leagues.

    kennedy and austin jackson have had the most success and they have done it with another team. i expect montero to be added to these two also.

    even melky? gone
    sayonara

    cano would have been gone had not other teams turned down the yankees including him in trades.

    i juts don’t see any real commitment to these young players when they hit the major leagues.

  49. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Chip

    Good article. I posted it earlier. I hope 2 of them shine enough going forward that they make the parent club. Mesa appears to be heading in the right direction, in cutting down on his strikeouts.

    Mustelier, and I included a good link just above, is a minor league .300 hitter since 2011 vs righties and lefties, home or away and every month of the season. If he can show that his outfield defense is better than Rivera, I hope he makes the parent club.

    Almonte still needs some defensive improvement and most likely will be sent back to the minors.

  50. Chip March 3rd, 2013 at 10:03 am

    From Nick Cafardo:

    The Red Sox, Nationals, Yankees, Orioles, and Brewers had major interest in free agent pitcher Javier Vazquez before knee surgery put his season in jeopardy. “Never say never,” said a major league source close to the hurler, “but we won’t see him in the immediate future.”

    What. The. %*#&!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. Chip March 3rd, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Trader –

    Sorry, didn’t see you posted that earlier.

    I agree about Mustelier, and the fact that he’s viable in all four corners would make him an asset to such a short bench.

    Almonte is my personal fav, but given that he’s never played above AA I could see him heading to Scranton. Melky does have some ML time and can really go get it in the field. If he’s really able to keep his k-rate down there’s no reason he shouldn’t be the starting LF.

  52. Chip March 3rd, 2013 at 10:09 am

    However you slice it though, some combination of Mesa, Almonte and Mustelier should go north and Diaz and Rivera should just go. Though, as I’ve said before, I’m almost positive that Girardi will take the two veterans.

  53. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:10 am

    Chip-

    No need to apologize. I’m just glad that both of us brought more attention to those 3. Maybe the Yankees will surprise many of us and Randy, and promote 2 of them after ST. :)

  54. RadioKev March 3rd, 2013 at 10:14 am

    Mustelier: Yankees have to either use him or lose him. He’s tradeable if he’s not in the team’s plans.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Randy,

    Your dangling carrot theory is really supported by Cashman’s own big mouth.

    Somebody (think Rich in NJ) pulled out a quote where Cashman, in response to a question I assume, about why we stockpile catchers, said something like:

    “Because other teams want them.”

    Not: because uh, having a catcher with offense gives you a huge advantage, as Yankee history has proven…

    But: because OTHER TEAMS want them.

    Well, if that doesn’t just say it all…

    As for OF… there’s really no excuse in hell not to give Mustelier a shot: the guy’s already 28 years old, and his fielding isn’t going to improve, as he’s played pro ball for years, now.

    Their “run prevention” rhetoric took a bit of a hit when they trotted out 90-year old Ibanez… even in LF. Mustelier can’t be as much of a liability as Raul was at that age.

  56. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Kev-

    From what I’ve seen of Mustelier in ST and his bat control and ability to drive the ball to right, his extremely low strikeout rate, as well as his defense in both left and right, which doesn’t seem all that bad, I hope he at least gets a bench and DH, role with the Yankees.

  57. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Doesn’t Cash like taking the fans opinions and showing them the other side of the coin?

    Well he’s heard the complaints about the age of the team (specifically on the bench) so why not give us what we’re asking for and throw the young guys out there and leave Diaz and Rivera in the minors or released?

  58. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 10:25 am

    If by the middle of April none of the youngsters are hitting he can make some snarky remark about us getting what we wanted.. you’d think that’d be something that would sway Cash!

  59. RadioKev March 3rd, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:22 am
    Kev-

    From what I’ve seen of Mustelier in ST and his bat control and ability to drive the ball to right, his extremely low strikeout rate, as well as his defense in both left and right, which doesn’t seem all that bad, I hope he at least gets a bench and DH, role with the Yankees.
    ————

    He reminds me of the type of player the Giants like. Put the ball in play.

  60. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Kev-

    Re-Posting this inclusive well written link on Mustelier.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....ost-81189/

  61. RMS March 3rd, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Well he’s heard the complaints about the age of the team (specifically on the bench) so why not give us what we’re asking for and throw the young guys out there and leave Diaz and Rivera in the minors or released?

    ————————————————————————————
    I’m with you. But for some reason, Cashman and Girardi seem to like to go with the old guys.

  62. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Logan had a clean MRI on his left elbow. If however, he is not ready by the opener in YS April 1st, which other lefty, besides Rapada should make the team, from what you’ve seen so far?

  63. MG March 3rd, 2013 at 10:41 am

    this may be a LoHud first.

    Everyone agrees that the ‘kids’ should get a shot in the outfield in April.

    It’s not like the Yankees have never done this although you have to go back a long way, to 1951, when 23 year old Gil McDougald and the Mick, age 19, were put into the everyday lineup-Gil made the jump from AA and the Mick from C (that’s probably the equivalent of low A today, right?).

    The ’51 team had a bunch of aging veterans (DiMag, Johnny Mize and the Scooter) mixed with some guys in their prime (Yogi and Hank Bauer) plus some other guys like Jerry Coleman, Gene Woodling and Bobby Brown who were essentially average players.

    They did have good pitching-Reynolds, Raschi and Lopat-Whitey Ford was in the Korean War for two years) but they most likely don’t win the World Series that year without giving Gil and the Mick a shot long before teams probably would today. McDougald was ROY in ’51 and I don’t remember what happened to the Mick :)

  64. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 10:25 am

    If by the middle of April none of the youngsters are hitting he can make some snarky remark about us getting what we wanted.. you’d think that’d be something that would sway Cash!
    ///

    Which he would probably do and which is a curious feature of his general passive aggressiveness:

    Getting mad at fans who express optimism that the players you yourself signed off on to draft or sign will actually work out :roll:

  65. grouchonyy March 3rd, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Today’s lineup is a reason why spring training tickets are overvalued. I have tickets for the two games in Jupiter this week. I shudder at what the Yankees are sending on this odd east coast trip.

  66. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:48 am

    MG-

    Thanks for that post. Mantle’s slugging average in 1951 was only .443. What did happen to him after that? LOL.

    From Mantle:

    “During my 18 years I came to bat almost 10,000 times. I struck out about 1,700 times and walked maybe 1,800 times. You figure a ballplayer will average about 500 at-bats a season. That means I played 7 years without ever hitting the ball.” – Mickey Mantle

  67. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 10:50 am

    It isn’t like we’re asking for a roster full of guys in their early 20s.. this is a short term temp role as the starting RFer we’re talking about here on a roster full of vets. Can’t see why putting one of the young guys in would be such a risk move when your other options are Rivera and Diaz.

  68. Yankee Trader March 3rd, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Time to go.

    Have a great day everyone.

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Same to you, Trader.
    ///

    Pretty obvious the Yanks have no interest in exploring Joseph at 2B; at least, if they’re smart, that is their thinking.

    They have to know he has no real range and want to see if they can salvage his left-handed bat with some yeoman service at 3B. He’d be such a great addition to the lineup. He can really hit.

  70. RadioKev March 3rd, 2013 at 11:05 am

    I just made bagels for the first time. I think I did the motherland well. They’re not too hard to make: http://smittenkitchen.com/blog.....hy-bagels/

  71. Against All Odds March 3rd, 2013 at 11:06 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 10:18 am
    Randy,

    Your dangling carrot theory is really supported by Cashman’s own big mouth.

    Somebody (think Rich in NJ) pulled out a quote where Cashman, in response to a question I assume, about why we stockpile catchers, said something like:

    “Because other teams want them.”

    Not: because uh, having a catcher with offense gives you a huge advantage, as Yankee history has proven…

    But: because OTHER TEAMS want them.

    Well, if that doesn’t just say it all…

    ————————-

    The conversation happened between Rich and I. That was Cashman’s reason for going so pitching and catching heavy when he decided to rebuild the system. In his opinion those are the two positions teams around the game covet the most.

  72. Against All Odds March 3rd, 2013 at 11:09 am

    I know Heathcott plays like a mad man but I love his intensity. He might not have a long career but he will leave it all out on the field .

  73. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 am

    The conversation happened between Rich and I. That was Cashman’s reason for going so pitching and catching heavy when he decided to rebuild the system. In his opinion those are the two positions teams around the game covet the most.
    ///

    Odds, thanks for clarifying. Except Cashman only covets one… except to lure more pitching…. Ideally, we should have pitchers who also platoon as everyday players: as we know, hitting has nothing whatsoever to do with actually contributing to wins and you never run out of pitching…. if you do, you can just trade more catchers… :) Brilliant, eh?

  74. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Odds,

    I agree about Slade’s intensity. Now if he could just better manage that intensity and be less reckless, he’ll be a star. He has to stop detonating himself, however, if he wants to stick around the game :)

  75. mick March 3rd, 2013 at 11:16 am

    talk about beating a dead horse…

  76. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Which he would probably do and which is a curious feature of his general passive aggressiveness:

    Getting mad at fans who express optimism that the players you yourself signed off on to draft or sign will actually work out :roll:

    ————–

    If he’s going to be a jackass I’d just appreciate consistency ;)

  77. Stoneburner - The Return of Wax March 3rd, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Odds, thanks for clarifying. Except Cashman only covets one… except to lure more pitching…. Ideally, we should have pitchers who also platoon as everyday players: as we know, hitting has nothing whatsoever to do with actually contributing to wins and you never run out of pitching…. if you do, you can just trade more catchers… Brilliant, eh?

    *****

    Sad – just sad – you really are a miserable person who follows baseball with serious gripes and issues you need to get over – but then again – I am kind of glad you are still bitter about January 13, 2012 – it may have been all worth it to reduce to a future of these types of issues you will never let go of – - – - -

  78. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 11:18 am

    We should just go with two of the youngsters and send Diaz down and release Rivera (Diaz has a minor league deal, right?). Worst case scenario is you need to pick someone out of the bargain bin in a couple of months. Cash is good at that!

  79. Against All Odds March 3rd, 2013 at 11:18 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:16 am
    Odds,

    I agree about Slade’s intensity. Now if he could just better manage that intensity and be less reckless, he’ll be a star. He has to stop detonating himself, however, if he wants to stick around the game

    —————–

    True he can dial it down a bit but I’m not sure he can. He really seems like one of those guys that can only play at one speed. Maybe he’ll grow out of it.

  80. Tar March 3rd, 2013 at 11:19 am

    “talk about beating a dead horse…”

    Which one, It’s March 3rd and there a whole herd of dead horses around here. What would you like to discuss?

  81. Shame Spencer March 3rd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Lol, yeah at least we aren’t talking about Joba to the rotation today lol, could always be worse mick!

  82. Tar March 3rd, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “this may be a LoHud first.
    Everyone agrees that the ‘kids’ should get a shot in the outfield in April.”

    Good post MG thanks. We could use more old-time talk around here. We have big shoes to fill in that area. :sad:

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:23 am

    LOL, some fangraphs commenter posted this in a piece about Cano:

    “Cano

    I guess I should have nominated Cano in the most overrated prospect thread the other day. That he still gets talked up as some kind of top prospect (not pointing at John here, by the way) amazes me.

    I’ve seen Cano play a lot, and I’m not even sure he’d be a productive Triple-A player. Let’s start with his defense; it’s brutal. He has terrible footwork and simply lacks any kind of instincts around the bag. There’s no way you want him playing up the middle. He might have the raw speed to not be awful in left field, but that’s about as kind as I can be regarding his glovework.

    Offensively, he’s a fastball hitter. He sits dead red on every pitch and waits for a mistake. Any good breaking ball or offspeed pitch will have him out in front. He’s mostly a gap hitter, lacking the power to drive the ball consistently over the wall. To add insult to injury, he’s also a terrible baserunner.

    In his prime, I think he could hit .280/.320/.400 while playing awful defense. Yipee.”

    by david cameron on Feb 20, 2005 10:17 PM EST
    ////

    Like I’ve said, Cameron writes some interesting pieces, but when I see his “talent evaluations” thrown up here like they actually mean something, just because he has a byline and writes some good stuff, I have a good chuckle.

    Maybe Cashman read this (he seems to admire Cameron) and then promptly tried to trade him ;). The time-frame is about the same.

  84. randy l. March 3rd, 2013 at 11:25 am

    “I know Heathcott plays like a mad man but I love his intensity. He might not have a long career but he will leave it all out on the field .”

    i juts watched a you tube video where heathcott said rusty greer was his model:

    “Greer’s aggressive style of play took a severe toll on his body, and he spent the remainder of his baseball career undergoing and recovering from surgeries. After first coming off of the disabled list in 2002, he was only able to play one more game, on July 11 of that year, before going back on the disabled list. On August 22, he had surgery to fuse the C5 and C6 vertebrae in his neck; and in the offseason, he had surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff in his shoulder. He was then expected to miss the entire 2003 season. ”

    youtube video of heathcott:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMOskSks8gM

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Good post MG thanks. We could use more old-time talk around here. We have big shoes to fill in that area. :sad:
    ///

    :sad: <3

  86. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:30 am

    That’s a nice interview though, with Slade. He’ll be a fan favorite. We need someone to reign him in: Derek needs to get a long extension :)

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:31 am

    *that’s rein him in, of course :roll:

  88. randy l. March 3rd, 2013 at 11:31 am

    i think heathcott is simply a product of a red neck mentality that values a false toughness.

    it’s not toughness to do things like take out a fellow outfielder. it’s just plain ignorant.

    the yankees should have jeter sit down with heathcott and explain what real toughness is all about.

    unless heathcott evolves into a more mature player he is looking at a short career.

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:35 am

    True he can dial it down a bit but I’m not sure he can. He really seems like one of those guys that can only play at one speed. Maybe he’ll grow out of it.
    ///

    Odds, maybe he should read Bill Bradley’s classic “A Sense of Where You Are.”

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:40 am

    randy l. March 3rd, 2013 at 11:31 am

    i think heathcott is simply a product of a red neck mentality that values a false toughness.

    it’s not toughness to do things like take out a fellow outfielder. it’s just plain ignorant.
    ///

    It actually shows you’re not doing your job well. Hubris literally costs people their lives in certain situations. He needs to be more like Jete – in a state of present awareness. That’s part of what makes Jeter so great; he’s always 100 percent committed to what is actually happening in the moment.

  91. Tar March 3rd, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Slade is 22 yrs old. How about we let him mature a little before we start calling him a washed up injury waiting to happen.

    And besides, that aggressiveness maybe what got him where he is today. Which last i checked is in Yankees camp fighting for a job.

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Jeter going into the stands was really about Jeter staying present to the last, there.

    I didn’t see the Heathcott collision with Mustelier, but that just sounds like willful hubris or a lack of grounded-ness – dangerous.

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Tar,

    He needs to learn though how to take better care of himself and also be responsible to his teammates.

    He’s got a huge heart, which is great, and some exciting ability. Hate to see him miss out on his own career because of reckless disregard for himself and others.

  94. jacksquat March 3rd, 2013 at 11:48 am

    blake March 3rd, 2013 at 9:14 am
    @eboland11: Ichiro said car was nearly totaled but feels no soreness or pain. Will be evaluated by doctor as precaution but after he works out this a.m.

    You can’t take out a ninja with a mere auto accident.

  95. Against All Odds March 3rd, 2013 at 11:55 am

    . Alfred Prufrock March 3rd, 2013 at 11:13 am
    The conversation happened between Rich and I. That was Cashman’s reason for going so pitching and catching heavy when he decided to rebuild the system. In his opinion those are the two positions teams around the game covet the most.
    ///

    Odds, thanks for clarifying. Except Cashman only covets one… except to lure more pitching…. Ideally, we should have pitchers who also platoon as everyday players: as we know, hitting has nothing whatsoever to do with actually contributing to wins and you never run out of pitching…. if you do, you can just trade more catchers… Brilliant, eh?
    ————-

    lol

  96. randy l. March 3rd, 2013 at 11:57 am

    “Slade is 22 yrs old. How about we let him mature a little before we start calling him a washed up injury waiting to happen.”

    heathcott is who he is. he’s like a catcher who is too aggressive and looks for collisions at home plate.
    the team needs to really talk with heathcott and get him to understand that he’s too valuable to continue abusing his body in a reckless style of play.

    all you have to do is listen to the guy talk and it says volumes about where he’s coming from.
    there’s no nice way to say it. i’m not hearing a lot of intelligence coming from the guy when he speaks.

    the yankees can either let him play it out or intervene with some proactive guidance and maybe avoid some injuries and prolong his career.

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