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Plenty of questions, few answers in the wake of Teixeira’s injury

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 06, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s my best attempt to answer some of the obvious questions about the Mark Teixeira injury.

Strained tendon? Isn’t that the Jose Bautista injury?
In short, yes. Cashman said as much: “(Dr. Ahmad) said it’s a common injury,” Cashman said. “It happens a lot with hitters. It’s the same one Bautista had last year. Well, similar. I can’t tell you it’s the same because I don’t know the severity. Bautista’s might have been a lot worse, but that’s what Bautista had at Yankee Stadium last year.”

Bautista eventually had season-ending surgery. So far, there are no plans for Teixeira to have surgery. Cashman said he was told that a full four-weeks of rest is the way to go. It’s worth noting that Bautista rested for only 12 days before trying to play again, and after a series of setbacks, he eventually had surgery. Obviously, the Yankees are trying to avoid that.

Don’t the Yankees have to trade for someone at this point?
The middle of the order has taken a massive hit in the past 10 days, and Cashman said he’ll keep looking for “casualties from other camps.” But it’s also early March, and the pool of available players isn’t usually encouraging during spring training. Teams have made their offseason moves — or non-moves — for a reason.

“It’s kind of like a baby pool,” Cashman said. “A lot of kids pee in it. … It’s not the time of year to try to make any moves. Usually movement takes place after the draft unless people are trying to cut garbage.”

How are the Yankees going to replace these home runs?
I have no idea. Absolutely no idea. Last year’s Yankees included 10 players who hit double-digit home runs. Only one of them — one! — is still healthy, still playing in games and still on the Yankees roster. Here’s the list: Curtis Granderson (broken forearm), Robinson Cano (healthy and active), Mark Teixeira (strained wrist), Nick Swisher (Cleveland), Russell Martin (Pittsburgh), Raul Ibanez (Seattle), Alex Rodriguez (hip surgery), Eric Chavez (Arizona), Derek Jeter (rehabbing ankle), Andruw Jones (Japan).

Why not put Kevin Youkilis at first base?
He did win a Gold Glove over there in 2007, but the down side is probably obvious. Moving Youkilis only opens a hole at third base. “First is always an easier position to fill than third,” Cashman said.

Basically, the Yankees could either try Eduardo Nunez at third base, play Jayson Nix regularly at third base, or go with either Dan Johnson or Juan Rivera at first base. I guess there are other internal options — maybe Ronnier Mustelier at third, Luke Murton at first — but those seem to be at the top of the list if you’re looking internally. Clearly, Youkilis could shift to first if the Yankees happen to find a third baseman.

“I’m not dismissing,” Joe Girardi said. “But it’s kind of like the Ichiro/Gardy thing. Depending on who we break with, depends on where Youk could possibly go.”

Break glass in emergency: Why not Travis Hafner?
Injuries are already piling up, and the Yankees don’t want to take the change of another one. Especially now that Hafner’s bat is more important than ever.

“He’s a field goal kicker,” Cashman said. “I know what I’ve got and I want him to be that. He hasn’t picked up a glove in seven years. I’m not making fun of him; he’s just someone that is an amazing hitter, but he has a history of injuries. We’re not going to put him in a position by trying to put a glove on him and getting him hurt. He’s our DH.”

Or, as Girardi put it: “He said he has a glove, and anyone’s welcome to use it.”

What does the middle of the order look like now?
Can’t predict the top of the order without knowing Derek Jeter’s status, now it’s hard to imagine the middle of the order without Teixeira or Granderson. The Yankees got the news of Teixeira’s injury literally minutes before the end of today’s game, so it may take a while before they have a good idea of how things line up.

“I’m not sure,” Girardi said. “It changes it. Two of the guys you expected to hit in the middle won’t be there opening day. We’ll put it together. Three and a half weeks to decide.”

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578 Responses to “Plenty of questions, few answers in the wake of Teixeira’s injury”

  1. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Repost:

    You guys HATED Martin. It’s not fair to turn around and say the Yankees should have kept him!!!”

    This is false, Doreen.

    No, I don’t like his approach at the plate, but life isn’t only about what we want, it’s also about what we need.

    So in order to let him go, they had to have a replacement. They didn’t and they don’t.

    Equally important, another reason some of us wanted him to go was that if they were going to have any flexibility in 2014, they could give out any two year contracts.

    The Ichiro deal negated that pretense.

    “Swisher was never going to come back here – his numbers were too good and he knew it was his payday”

    Right, which is why some us wanted to trade him a year ago and sign Beltran, whose contract would be expiring this season.

  2. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Repost:

    Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Has anyone heard anything on the Diaz investigation? Maybe get him and try him at 3B?

    Or try to trade for an Olt and move Youk to 1B? I think considering the contracts and needs (not just this year but going forward) they should focus on trying to get a 3B.

  3. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    “Or try to trade for an Olt and move Youk to 1B? I think considering the contracts and needs (not just this year but going forward) they should focus on trying to get a 3B.”

    They should ask anyways….. I expect them to play Nix at 3B and Youk at 1B to be honest…..

  4. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    “Swisher was never going to come back here – his numbers were too good and he knew it was his payday. The Yankees were NOT going long term contract for Swisher. ”

    i can’t remember before swisher who was the last yankee player as good as him that the yankees let leave as a free agent.

    swisher was clearly a victim of hals austerity plan.

    as far as martin, no one said they wanted cervelli and stewart instead of him.
    if hal would spend have authorized some money, they could have gotten a catcher better than cervelli and stewart.

    it all keeps getting back to hal not spending money.

  5. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    What funny is, it’s not even the old guys getting hurt – Hughes (26), Granderson (31), Teixeira (32).

    The old folks – Rivera (43), Jeter (38), Arod (37) are still recovering from getting injured last year.

    Btw, no team has backups to cover losing a Teixeira + Granderson, those guys are 3-5 hitters on almost all teams. Pretty much no team has the depth to cover that kind of loss.

    And it’s not because of team age, because it’s not the old farts that are dropping.

  6. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    “I’m not sure,” Girardi said. “It changes it. Two of the guys you expected to hit in the middle won’t be there opening day. We’ll put it together.
    ===============================
    How about Jeter or Ichiro?
    Jeter was your best hitter last year.
    We need to have him see if he can produce more power numbers.
    He’s never had the chance.

  7. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Yanks opening day lineup: you watch

    Ichiro LF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Youk 1B
    Hafner DH
    Rivera RF
    Nix 3B
    Stewart C
    Gardner CF

  8. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    @mlbtraderumors: Rangers Agree To Sign Derek Lowe http://t.co/azzjZsGd0o #mlb

  9. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    “Or try to trade for an Olt and move Youk to 1B? I think considering the contracts and needs (not just this year but going forward) they should focus on trying to get a 3B.”

    They should ask anyways….. I expect them to play Nix at 3B and Youk at 1B to be honest…..

    —————–

    Probably. Especially since the best pieces we had available to get a guy like Olt are …injured.

  10. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    thats a 5 man lineup.
    i would keep ichi gardy and jeter together.
    let the bottom 3 be just that, the bottom 3rd of the order, the way it used to be.

  11. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    “Probably. Especially since the best pieces we had available to get a guy like Olt are …injured.”

    They might woukd do nova or Phelps….they need a pitcher pretty bad

  12. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    nix is a backup.
    let musty play 3rd for the rest of this month and see what he’s got.

  13. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
    Yanks opening day lineup: you watch

    Ichiro LF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Youk 1B
    Hafner DH
    Rivera RF
    Nix 3B
    Stewart C
    Gardner CF

    Gardner LF
    Ichiro RF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Youk 1B
    Hafner DH
    Mustelier 3B
    Mesa CF
    Cervelli C

  14. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    there is no way out of 189 box hal has put the yankees in unless they are prepared to be bad for a while.

    it’s really that simple.

    so the smart move for hal is to forget his effing PLAN.

    start over, say just kidding, brian , go get me some players.

  15. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    “Probably. Especially since the best pieces we had available to get a guy like Olt are …injured.”

    They might woukd do nova or Phelps….they need a pitcher pretty bad

    ————-

    True… right now if I’m Cash I’m on the phone with the Mets, Rangers and Tigers.

    Or trying to find out if that Diaz kid is good enough defensively to play 3B lol.

  16. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    hal will not do that randy, its not his dna.

  17. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    let musty play 3rd for the rest of this month and see what he’s got.

    —————-

    With a few weeks of ST left, I totally agree. Can’t be worse than Joseph looked out there, right?

  18. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Gardner LF
    Ichiro RF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Youk 1B
    Hafner DH
    Mustelier 3B
    Mesa CF
    Cervelli C

    Now that’s more like it.
    Be creative.

  19. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    “Gardner LF
    Ichiro RF
    Jeter SS
    Cano 2B
    Youk 1B
    Hafner DH
    Mustelier 3B
    Mesa CF
    Cervelli C”

    Obviously this is better….I posted what I think they will do

  20. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Can’t be worse than Joseph looked out there, right?
    =======================
    Cash mentioned CoJo for 1B.

  21. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Mourneu is owed 15 million for 2013…..offer to pay it all and send maybe Warren and another lower level guy and give us a chance

  22. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Mourneu is owed 15 million for 2013…..offer to pay it all and send maybe Warren and another lower level guy and give us a chance
    ========================
    Don’t the Twins need a SS?
    Nunez and a top prospect is what they will ask for.

  23. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Musty, Mesa and Almonte will at least get Yankee fans minds past the Tex injury.

  24. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    “hal will not do that randy, its not his dna.”

    mick-

    then hal is going to get his DNA verbally kicked when he shows up in new york this summer.

    i’m kind of laughing at hal and enjoying seeing him exposed as a total screw up.

    you have to admit if you’re not a hal fan or cashman fan this is kind of funny.

    it was like they were going on a cross country trip with no spare tire when half their tires were bald.
    how can you not laugh when they’re on the side of the road with a flat tire?

  25. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    I’d rather see Corban at 1B than Murton… I’d definitely trade Warren for Mourneau.

  26. Doreen March 6th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    (Repost – and boy do I take a long time to get my thoughts together)

    G. Love -

    I was trying to make light.

    I’ve maintained that I don’t have an issue with trying to be more fiscally responsible. For a while they were throwing money at the wrong players.

    To me, it looked like they were trying to correct this. Along the way, they did pass up some players in favor of others, and there were compelling arguments here both pro and con each decision that was ultimately made.

    As a theoretical, it seemed to me to make sense to try and streamline – and to not overspend in certain areas. I could feel comfortable with my reasoning for why they didn’t pursue this or that player.

    They DID spend money this off-season.

    What they have right now though, and what we’re looking at, is uncertainty beyond this season. That’s unsettling.

    I hope they understand they cannot field Derek and the Dominoes (as in falling pieces), and expect as large a number of people to pay to see it in person, or even to tune in on YES. There are no records to be broken this year, I don’t think, right? No 650 HRs? No 4000 hits?
    *******
    New:

    Randy, Rich -

    As far as Martin goes, I was convinced they would resign him, even to a two-year contract. I think they would have too, if Martin didn’t jump ahead of the Yankees timing. I suspect Martin didn’t want to be here. And people were brutal in their dislike of Martin. Wanted him gone. Weren’t really talking about who would replace him. Who did they think would replace him? I know they didn’t want Cervelli or Stewart either, but the drumbeat was how much people hated Martin.

    Randy, do you think Swisher would have taken more money for fewer years from the Yankees? Because I think that’s the only way there was a chance to keep him. I think players want the security of time with one team. Money too. Always money.

    And sometimes there’s just no right answer. If the Yankees behaved as they Yankees of old, signed Swisher to a 5 year contract and Martin to 3 years, there would be screaming and yelling about that too. You know that’s true! LOL

    Anyway, I originally maintained that the $189 million was going to be simply to reset the lux. tax and then they’d go back to mostly doing business as usual, with maybe a new policy regarding long-term contracts or no-trade clauses or some such. And that that would require some painful sacrifice for a year or two. I’m not going to back off that. But I will admit that it’s no fun. I much prefer Godiva chocolates to Hershey’s.

  27. RespectTheGame March 6th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Not a big target height wise obviously, but Mustelier likely could do a better job at 1B than he does at 3rd.

  28. Duh Innings II March 6th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    I’d go with this batting order/starting nine (two-thirds homegrown)

    Gardner CF L
    Jeter SS R
    Suzuki LF L
    Rivera RF R protected by instead of protecting
    Cano 2B L
    Youkilis 3B R
    Hafner DH L
    Mustellier or Johnson 1B R / L
    Cervelli C R

    Only 15 out of the first 41 games the Yanks play through 5/16 will be against teams who finished .500 or better last season.

    The Yanks play 9 of these 15 games at home, 12 of them in April, 22 total home games, and 22 tough games if you throw in the 7 the Yanks play Toronto (they face Toronto 10 times through 5/19, so only 8 times in the 118 games after that.) They’ll draw the backend of Detroit’s rotation.

    I think this schedule would help the Yanks. They face more bad (in 2012) teams than good and play Toronto alot early. I know the Royals improved along with Toronto, but they’re still the Royals until I see otherwise and it’s not a given the Yanks will draw Shields and/or King Felix (they’ll probably draw one of them.) Where is it written that Baltimore is for real? They had one good season out of the last fifteen years or so and they’re good now? They did NOTHING this offseason save lose Mark Reynolds. Tampa Bay traded their #2 starter and didn’t improve their hitting as Will Meyers is no lock whatsoever to be a good hitter. Boston didn’t do much this offseason – I doubt they will greatly improve on their 69-win flopjob. They’ll face the Yanks’ front three starters right off the bat away.

    I predict 23-18 through 5/16, a 92-win pace despite the lack of offense. If they play just .500 vs. the .500 or better teams and Toronto, they need to play only 12-7 ball vs. the other teams – totally doable.

  29. pat March 6th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    teixeiramark25
    Not great news today but you have to roll with the punches. Going to work my tail off to get back soon and help my #Yankees win #28.

  30. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    “Mourneu is owed 15 million for 2013…..offer to pay it all and send maybe Warren and another lower level guy and give us a chance”

    ok done.

    do it.

  31. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    “Don’t the Twins need a SS?
    Nunez and a top prospect is what they will ask for.”

    Then you have a chuckle and hang up

  32. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Look, I know what some of you wanted:

    They should have kept Montero and signed Prince to DH.

    Then they should have signed Hamilton to play RF and Napoli; then they could deal Granderson and Montero for Mike Trout (unless you think that’s too much to give up for Trout?)

    Oh, and the Yankee prospects should be rated 1 – 50 on all prospect lists. And of course, only give up prospects who suck for good players. Something like Pat Venditte for Miguel Cabrera to fill in for Alex.

    Were mistakes made? Of course they were. But everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax.

    George throwing money around was fun, but didn’t always get us where we wanted (how many rings did Sheff and Giambi get here?)

    I know, when Cashman says that offense is easy to find, we cringe, but the fact is that for the Yankees it is easier than pitching (as evidenced by the fact that they got good power numbers out of some pretty crappy hitters last year) So spending on pitching is what makes sense.

    In any case – the following things are false:

    1. Hal is trying to drive down the payroll to sell the team. Hal could put the Yankees on the market with a $300 mil payroll and still have more prospective buyers than he knew what to do with.

    2. Cashman needs to go The absolute worst thing that could happen is Brian Cashman being fired. His replacement would be handpicked by Randy Levine and likely would just be a puppet for someone who knows absolutely nothing about baseball. It would be a return to the bad old 80s.

    3. The Yankees are doomed That these injuries are happening now sucks but it’s better than if it happened two months from now. There’s time for Cashman to look around and make adjustments. Brian’s never been a big believer in making deals during the season, but that doesn’t mean he won’t.

    4. The Yankees need to sign Cano One has nothing to do with the other. Giving Cano an 8 year deal doesn’t improve their chances of winning this year. All it does is potentially condemn them to watching another star player deteriorate with age.

  33. Doreen March 6th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    I honestly think what’s not helping here is the abysmal infield play we’ve seen in some of these spring games.

    I know watching today certainly affected my thoughts.

  34. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    My 25 based on people currently in the organization and assuming Hughes is ready:

    Gardner – LF
    Jeter – ss
    Ichiro – RF
    Cano – 2b
    Youk – 1b
    Pronk – DH
    Mustelier – 3b
    Cervelli – C
    Mesa – CF

    Bench: Nunez, Nix, Stewart, Diaz

    Rotation
    CC
    Kuroda
    Hughes
    Andy
    Nova

    Pen:
    RHP: Mo, Robertson, Joba, Aardsma, Phelps
    LHP: Logan, Rapada

  35. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    “Randy, do you think Swisher would have taken more money for fewer years from the Yankees? Because I think that’s the only way there was a chance to keep him. I think players want the security of time with one team. Money too. Always money.”

    doreen-

    bernie and posada took the yankees right to the brink of leaving with the red sox and mets. swisher was of course going to try to get as much as he could. as i asked before , who was the last yankee who had as good a year as swisher had that a yankee owner let him leave because of money?

    letting swisher go was un-yankee like.
    and now the yankees are paying for it.

  36. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    “Don’t the Twins need a SS?
    Nunez and a top prospect is what they will ask for.”

    Then you have a chuckle and hang up
    —————-

    Still say if you can get him for Romine and Betances you do it.

  37. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Doreen

    I disagree. They opted to spend the available funds on a nearing 40 Ichiro instead.

    Again, the thought was that they can’t afford a give anyone a two year deal given the 2014 thing.

    But if the choice is Ichrio or Martin, given their respective ages and positions, it’s Martin. Hands down.

    Personal feelings, if they exist, mean less than nothing.

  38. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    It will be interesting to see Hal’s reaction when the Post or News trashes the team if they get off to a poor start and fans stay away.

  39. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Bautista eventually had season-ending surgery. So far, there are no plans for Teixeira to have surgery. Cashman said he was told that a full four-weeks of rest is the way to go. It’s worth noting that Bautista rested for only 12 days before trying to play again, and after a series of setbacks, he eventually had surgery. Obviously, the Yankees are trying to avoid that.
    —————
    Bautista called Sam Fuld who ended up needing surgery after rest failed, and decided to opt then for surgery so that he’d be ready for the 2013 season.

  40. Doreen March 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Bernie and Posada were homegrowns, Randy. And part of the dynasty. I think different situation.

    Also, with Posada, it was about the 5th year.

    I thought Bernie had a change of heart and overruled his agent?

  41. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    Still say if you can get him for Romine and Betances you do it.
    =============================
    Why would the Twins settle for that?

  42. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    “Still say if you can get him for Romine and Betances you do it.”

    Eh I might give them Betances but I still think Romine might turn into something

  43. mick March 6th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    who was the last yankee who had as good a year as swisher had that a yankee owner let him leave because of money?
    ================
    Reggie.

  44. Doreen March 6th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Rich -

    I think they would have signed Martin if Martin hadn’t jumped the gun. I really do. I think they were shocked.

  45. pkyankfan69 March 6th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Hopefully the Yankees acting like they are not going to actively pursue a Tex replacement is just to make them to appear not to be publicly desperate…. I sure hope they are going to go after someone like Morneau.

  46. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    This is probably a “stupid” question, but which way would put more strain on the right tendon after his return- batting lefty or righty?

  47. blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Mourneu is owed 15 million and hasn’t been healthy really since 2008…..he’s a rental that’s an injury risk and he didnt play like an elite player last year…..they ain’t gettin a ton for him

  48. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Chiip’s points:

    1. Whether or not Hal wants to sell the team is unknowable.

    2. We have no idea who would replace Cashman. The overriding point is they need more than an average GM. Time to go.

    3. I don’t think they are doomed. Cashman or Levine will have success in finding replacements based on what they are willing to spend, and what prospects they are willing to trade.

    I may hate hate hate trading a big prospect, but they could do it.

    4. I wouldn’t give him more than 7 years including 2013. If that’s not enough, trade him. But losing him for picks if they have any hope of being a good team in the near future would be dumb.

  49. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Yankee Trader says:
    March 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm
    This is probably a “stupid” question, but which way would put more strain on the right tendon after his return- batting lefty or righty?

    Id think lefty

  50. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    “Were mistakes made? Of course they were. But everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax.”

    chip,

    if i was any more relaxed, i’d need a greenie to stay awake.

    i’m laughing at hal and cashman.

    i’m not mad at them.

    i’m enjoying them screwing up.

    i was mad when they first set this idiotic plan in motion, but now i’m enjoying watching the train wreck.

    on a more serious note, why shouldn’t they sign granderson? he is after all a really good player. why keep letting these guys go?

    oh, i forgot. hal’s brain dead 189 plan. so you see chip, it;s not the fas who are wrong , it’s hal.

  51. mick March 6th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    What would it take to get Cuddyer or is he too pricey?

  52. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Doreen-

    I think the Yankees would have signed Martin IF they didn’t need to quickly find a replacement for ARod at third and allocate 12M to do so.

  53. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    They could probably get Smoak….at least he can play defense.

  54. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Doreen

    If you look at their 2014 payroll commitments, assuming they re-sign, giving two years to Martin and Ichiro would leave them no room to fill out the roster.

    So, I disagree.

    “This is probably a “stupid” question, but which way would put more strain on the right tendon after his return- batting lefty or righty?”

    I thought you were a doctor, YT?

  55. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Damon woukd probably play 1B

  56. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    “Still say if you can get him for Romine and Betances you do it.”

    Eh I might give them Betances but I still think Romine might turn into something
    ————–

    I agree about Romine, but I’m looking at signing McCann so why not deal Romine?

  57. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    blake

    No harm in bringing Damon in on a mL deal. Maybe he can still hook the ball at YS.

  58. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Blake

    If there would be more strain on the right tendon batting lefty, If he indeed avoids surgery, maybe he should abandon that side and hit from the right side the remainder of this season.

  59. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    “House of Cards” is ridiculously good. Later.

  60. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Blake,

    Smoak would also probably hit better in Yankee Stadium.

    Could probably get Moreland too.

  61. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    How about Dan Murphy?

  62. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    “I agree about Romine, but I’m looking at signing McCann so why not deal Romine?”

    Because they probably won’t sign McCann….though I hope they do!

  63. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Rich

    I stayed at a HIE but never played organized baseball. :)

    Which hand takes the most punishment when holding a bat from the right side? In Bautista’s case it was the left wrist.

  64. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    Do you know what I find amazing..? How we always hear about how ‘George spend a gazillion dollars and didn’t always win!’

    Well, if that’s the sliding scale we’re working off of, he won more than Hal. And Hal only got one when he…… spent a ridiculous amount of money.

  65. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Helton might woukd be an option

  66. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    “House of Cards” is ridiculously good. Later.”

    rich in nj-

    i started watching it and the main character killed the dog with his bare hands. now maybe he could have run with him to a vet and saved him. nope he choked him to death.

    so it got better after than huh?

  67. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    @HardballTalk: Quote of the Day: Brian Cashman isn’t excited about the corner infielder market http://t.co/az1IZeX2j3 #mlb #hbt

    Lemmi guess….the prices make him want to cry

  68. exiledintampa March 6th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Might as well put Jeter at 1B for awhile.

  69. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Call Chipper and see if he’d play 1b for a month or two.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 6th, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    You know, I’ve been following a trial that is absoutely gruesome and depressing. But these days posts about the Yanks are even worse! I usually see at least a few people taking the rosy path as opposed to giving in to “woe is me!” Admittedly I haven’t been able to read every single post in every single thread, but I haven’t seen a lot of positivity here.

    Will the Yanks be able to sustain themselves in spite of those major injuries? Heck, the Sux did it one year with the elf, Youkilis, Ellsbury and a few pitchers down!

    I’ll tell you what’s on my mind though. I hate to go anywhere near this because on this forum if you make the mistake of showing any kind of “disrespect” to some posters’ favorite player(s), you might as well just put the bullet in your own head. The way Tex was a house of fire and then just started to break down, it makes me think he may have imbibed some of the happy juice. Can I prove it? Of course not. But my fears about that lead me to having some long-term fears about his ownership over first base.

    I’m still counting on our pitching to carry us over the hump. For potential hitters who are still standing we have Robby, DJ, Youkilis, Ichiro, and Gardner to name 5. Our DH is our DH. When he’s on, he has power. If we end up with Mesa, there’s a good chance he’ll hit. Then there’s some mix and match, I guess. So it isn’t fatal. And thank God it appears we have a solid pen.

    Look, not the way you want to go into a season, no question. If I’m right about Tex, I see that as Tex karma, not the Yankee organization messing up. And he has a hefty contract. I really like the guy but won’t be so pleased if I end up being right. IF he’s used in the past and has never touched a thing since he’s been in pinstripes, his breaking down will nevertheless occur here.

    That is my suspicion. I am not accusing, but I am at least suspicious.

  71. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    This is probably a “stupid” question, but which way would put more strain on the right tendon after his return- batting lefty or righty?

    Lefty, because right hand would be his bottom hand on the hand, which makes it the more important hand.

  72. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 6th, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    And now I have to venture into the beginnings of the storm to get to the mall. I’ll check out any responses when I get back.

  73. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Trisha

    Tex was in Texas the same time as ARod was juicing.

  74. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    That Arias trial is ridiculous.. I follow one of the court reporters, she live tweets from the court room lol. She keeps talking about the phone sex. It makes me uncomfortable just reading it. ME!

  75. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    JF

    Then if Tex does not have surgery would it be prudent to have him bat righty the rest of this season?

  76. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    The Yankees wouldn’t do that, he ought to just do it anyways because of how bad he swings lefty.

  77. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    “Lefty, because right hand would be his bottom hand on the hand, which makes it the more important hand.”

    jerkface-

    not necessarily because hitters can emphasize different hands. golf is the same way. when i hit a baseball lefty i emphasize my right hand or bottom hand. when i hit righty, i also emphasize the right hand but now it’s the top hand.

    in golf i’ve learned to play righty where i emphasize my left hand or bottom hand , but it took a lot of training. an example of a righty golfer who used his right hand more was johnny miller.hogan is an example of a righty golfer who emphasized his left hand.

    in baseball a guy who lets go with his top hand obviously uses his bottom hand more. but some guys are more top hand guys. so i really have no idea how it would affect teixeira.

  78. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    “If there would be more strain on the right tendon batting lefty, If he indeed avoids surgery, maybe he should abandon that side and hit from the right side the remainder of this season.”

    I think it’d be too difficult to make a change like that bat this stage of his career….he hasn’t faced RHP from the right side probably since little league

  79. Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    I guess that wasn’t such a “stuuuupid’ question after all. :)

  80. blake March 6th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    “not necessarily because hitters can emphasize different hands. golf is the same way. when i hit a baseball lefty i emphasize my right hand or bottom hand. when i hit righty, i also emphasize the right hand but now it’s the top hand.”

    Tex is heavily a bottom hand guy from the left side….he doesn’t use hardly any top hand from that side

  81. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Tex releases with his top hand. So ergo, and I think it would be rare to find hitters who rely more on the top hand than the bottom hand.

  82. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

    “Tex is heavily a bottom hand guy from the left side….he doesn’t use hardly any top hand from that side”

    then that’s the answer.

  83. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    “Tex releases with his top hand. So ergo, and I think it would be rare to find hitters who rely more on the top hand than the bottom hand”

    jerkface-

    i agree actually. i think emphasizing the bottom hand is the better way to go, but some hitters do think top hand.

  84. Ghostwriter March 6th, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    “Randy, do you think Swisher would have taken more money for fewer years from the Yankees? Because I think that’s the only way there was a chance to keep him. I think players want the security of time with one team. Money too. Always money.”

    doreen-

    bernie and posada took the yankees right to the brink of leaving with the red sox and mets. swisher was of course going to try to get as much as he could. as i asked before , who was the last yankee who had as good a year as swisher had that a yankee owner let him leave because of money?

    letting swisher go was un-yankee like.
    and now the yankees are paying for it.

    ===================

    Nonsense. Swisher’s production in the postseason was un-Yankee-like. I wish him well in his future endeavors, but I won’t miss him for a second.

    And I can name a number of Yankees that were allowed to walk after having had good years.

  85. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    i agree actually. i think emphasizing the bottom hand is the better way to go, but some hitters do think top hand.

    They’re probably not very good :) Or really good if they made it to the majors doing that. Physically its much harder to emphasize the shorter hand on follow through.

    Might lead to guys having shorter swings. You know I wonder if Jeter does? Would be an interesting thing to ask.

  86. Ghostwriter March 6th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Doreen

    I disagree. They opted to spend the available funds on a nearing 40 Ichiro instead.

    Again, the thought was that they can’t afford a give anyone a two year deal given the 2014 thing.

    But if the choice is Ichrio or Martin, given their respective ages and positions, it’s Martin. Hands down.

    Personal feelings, if they exist, mean less than nothing.
    ———————-

    I can’t believe that we’re still talking about Martin. He managed to jack 20 home runs. So what? He also hit .211 and OPS’ed in the low .700s. Cervelli can match Martin’s OPS, and he can do it with a much better batting average than Martin would have gotten. And I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Martin to match last year’s homer output.

  87. Against All Odds March 6th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    That is my suspicion. I am not accusing, but I am at least suspicious.

    —————–

    Or he could just be following the trend of players that move further away from their prime.

  88. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    there are numerous web sites that debate which hand is the power hand in baseball , top or bottom.

    there’s another factor going on.

    what you think you’re doing and what you’re actually doing are two different things.

    a senior tour player who won several million told me as a righty golfer to focus only on my left hand and to let the right hand go along for the ride. he then said, of course , when you think 100% left hand, you’ll probably be 50/50 because your right hand is your strong hand.

    this guy dick rhyan was taught by hogan as a young tour player. ironically hogan says in his book to emphasize and train your left hand( for righty golfer), squeeze with left pinky etc, but then he later says when you get that down let go with all the right hand you want.

    so what a hitter thinks he’s doing and what he’s actually doing can be two different things.
    hogan by the way was a natural lefty playing righty, so it was easy for him to emphasize his left hand.

  89. Ghostwriter March 6th, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Yankee Trader March 6th, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    Doreen-

    I think the Yankees would have signed Martin IF they didn’t need to quickly find a replacement for ARod at third and allocate 12M to do so.
    ============

    I’m not so sure about that. I like Martin, but he almost has to be viewed as a disappointing signing that didn’t work out. His OBP as a Yankee never came close to matching his historical norms. And his defense didn’t seem to be as good as it was billed. I don’t think that the homers he put up made up for the other deficiencies in his game.

  90. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    top or bottom.

    ——————

    Greatest conversation ever.

  91. RadioKev March 6th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    Yeah, can I revise that whole thing about the Yankees winning the division?

  92. luis March 6th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Good evening everyone,

    In my opinion the low hand is the one that generates the power.

    About Martin… Even though I am actually happy that he is no longer with the team… He was a better bet than Ichiro for two years, so Rich’s point makes a lot of sense.

  93. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Doreen,

    Martin has expressed disappointment the Yankees never offered him a contract. Neither he nor Chavez can wait all winter for the Yankees to decide of they have any money for them. It was not by choice of anyone but the Yankees they left. One never knows what one will take of it is not offered. A million years of experience taught me that.

  94. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    jerkface -
    her’s an interesting jeter swing analysis that talks about right arm left arm stuff. but not saying which hand is dominant.

    http://www.chrisoleary.com/pro.....r_001.html

  95. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    The Yankees are not going to take on Morneaus’s contract. That is the old Yankee universe. Listen to Cashman. He said they will wait to see who is discarded by others. He said, not me. Cheap and unwanted. He tried with Johnson. Next. It is the same as Pearce replacing McGeHee.

  96. luis March 6th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Another thing… The core of the body is what actually generates bat or club speed, the arms are just the connectors… That’s why a compact swing is more powerful, because the arms and hands are in more synch with the core.

  97. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Randy,

    I thought I read years ago Hogan and Snead were left handed. Correct?

  98. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    example of the debate:

    http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s.....;t=8920251

    Top Hand dominant hitters vs bottom hand dominant
    I like the way we are hitting mechanically but that has to go with an equally mature mental approach. We have to know why we hit a certain way and apply it in game situations.

    1. Elbow up hitters are top hand dominant early in the swing.

    2. Elbow down hitters are bottom hand dominant early in the swing.

    This is important because the farther up the hand is on a bat the quicker the bat becomes square to the ball. People with elbow up early get square much quicker. Bottom hand dominant hitters have a terrible time with good fastballs, top hand dominant hitters have a terrible time with off speed because the bat head leaves the zone too quickly.

    MLB hitters compromise, they went top hand early to hit 100 mph fastballs, then release the top hand so the bat head stays in the zone as the bottom hand is all that is effecting it. Thus the MLB swing,

    Elbow up and top hand dominant early to get the bat head square early

    Release top hand to change to bottom hand dominant later in the swing.

    When mixing the two stages it doesn’t work well as a hitting strategy. If you start elbow down and bottom hand dominant you are just slow to getting square, couple that with releasing the bat to become totally bottom hand dominant late and you become xtra slow all the way through the swing.

    If you are top hand dominant early and don’t release the bat you tend to pull off of off speed or pull everything foul.

    Charting foul balls gives you a good idea if the batters are top or bottom hand dominant.

    Bottom hand dominant guys can’t hit anything but away and opposite field, top hand guys are fooled by change ups.

    Everyone has a style but to get to the majors you have to figure out why things work and apply them. That is why college coaches tend to simplify, they don’t know how it works or don’t believe the players can master it.

  99. Ghostwriter March 6th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Doreen,

    Martin has expressed disappointment the Yankees never offered him a contract. Neither he nor Chavez can wait all winter for the Yankees to decide of they have any money for them. It was not by choice of anyone but the Yankees they left. One never knows what one will take of it is not offered. A million years of experience taught me that.
    ————–

    Perhaps he was not offered a contract, because the Yankees didn’t want him back.

    I’m not sure that I understand why you brought up Chavez–he was always going to leave. He wanted to live in Arizona. His departure had little to do with the Yankees, per se.

  100. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    YT,

    There are no stupid questions, but around here we all have plenty of stupid answers. :)

  101. Bronx Jeers March 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    The funny thing is when Cashman was asked about going outside the org. for a replacement i.e. Mourneau, he said that he wouldnt’ want anybody that would be redundant once Tex returned. Makes sense right?

    Well, only if you believe that Hafner is and Tex will be healthy all season. What are the odds of that happening? And even so, the Yanks used to absorb salaries life Hafner’s without a second thought. What was $2MM when there was so much at stake?

    2 years ago they were willing to spend $33MM for a relief pitcher when they had the best 8-9 inning tandem in the league.

  102. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Ghostwriter,

    The only info we have about Chavez is the Yankees didn’t offer him a contract and he expressed his love for Arizona after he signed. Would you expect he would say Arizona is his second choice. Again, if you make no offers, you get no signings.

    They were not ready to decide who to sign or for how much. Players cannot wait to see if they are in the plans. Who would?

  103. Pat M. March 6th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Think Willie Mays and Ken Griffey Jr. , both had full extended one hand swings. Both had a very beautiful way to dispearse molicules with a Louisvile Slugger.

  104. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Jerkface says:
    March 6, 2013 at 8:30 pm
    Tex releases with his top hand. So ergo, and I think it would be rare to find hitters who rely more on the top hand than the bottom hand.

    Jeter is a pretty top hand guy….

    A lot of folks consider the bottom hand the power hand but if you swing one armed you’ll find it’s much easier to hit with the top hand than the bottom…..if you’re righty and try to swing left arm only then it’s tough….whereas if you just swing with the righ hand you can actually hit the ball with some authority.

    I used to do top hand drills all the time just to concentrate on using it and driving through the ball…..

  105. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Cashman isn’t going to say he doesn’t have permission from Hal to spend the money. There is always a good reason not to spend money.

  106. Ghostwriter March 6th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    Bronx Jeers March 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    The funny thing is when Cashman was asked about going outside the org. for a replacement i.e. Mourneau, he said that he wouldnt’ want anybody that would be redundant once Tex returned. Makes sense right?

    Well, only if you believe that Hafner is and Tex will be healthy all season. What are the odds of that happening? And even so, the Yanks used to absorb salaries life Hafner’s without a second thought. What was $2MM when there was so much at stake?

    2 years ago they were willing to spend $33MM for a relief pitcher when they had the best 8-9 inning tandem in the league.
    —————–

    Actually, Hal overruled Cashman on signing Soriano. Cashman’s current posture is consistent with his position back then. It remains to be see where Hal stands.

    If the Yanks have an extended bad stretch in April, Hal might force Cashman to make a trade. Personally, I hope that one of the guys that we have step up.

  107. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Either way….Tex’s LH swing isn’t very functional now that he’s lost some bat speed….he could mask it when he was younger

  108. Barry March 6th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    The people writing about keeping Swisher and Martin need to refer back to some of their own comments at the close of 2012. Doreen used the term “drumbeat”…a “drumbeat” of hatred is what I read and saw. Booing at the Stadium and contempt on the net. Very difficult for baseball fans, me a Yankee fan first, but a baseball fan ultimately, to accept.

  109. Tar March 6th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    On Martin

    “If they had offered me a contract … if they had matched … you know,’’ Martin told The Post in a voice that trailed off. “I was confused a little bit. On a baseball standpoint, if I put myself in the shoes of somebody who makes the decisions to build the team, I would never overlook catching. We will see what happens. It might mean they have confidence in [Chris] Stewart and [Francisco] Cervelli and there is nothing wrong with that.’’

    The Yankees’ party line was that until they addressed their pitching needs at the time, which included bringing Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera and Hiroki Kuroda back, they weren’t making offers to anybody else. All three hurlers returned after Martin signed elsewhere.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....e7zz4Eh4mN

  110. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    austinmac-

    hogan was left handed. i don’t know about snead.

    phil michelson is right handed and plays lefty.

    i think it’s better to play golf on the side opposite your handedness.

    like hogan and michelson do.

    in baseball eye dominance comes into play. i’m left eye dominant , so when i hit lefty, i have to have an open stance so i can see the pitcher.
    eye dominance in golf doesn’t matter so much because you’re not looking out at the pitcher .

    where eye dominance in golf matters is in putting. you want your dominant eye out in front. the optics get thrown off by eye dominance. what looks like a straight line isn’t really sometimes. if you do a chalk line on long putts if your eye dominance throws your optics off you can see it. you can be off three to four feet off on a thirty foot putt.

  111. Ghostwriter March 6th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    “They were not ready to decide who to sign or for how much.”

    ============
    Chavez has a home in Phoenix, and his family lives there.

    You don’t know why the Yanks never made Chavez an offer. You could make that case with respect to how Matsui left the Yanks, but not with Chavez.

  112. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    “A lot of folks consider the bottom hand the power hand but if you swing one armed you’ll find it’s much easier to hit with the top hand than the bottom…..if you’re righty and try to swing left arm only then it’s tough….whereas if you just swing with the righ hand you can actually hit the ball with some authority.”

    blake -

    i play one handed sometimes. on both sides.

    if i play lefty golf with my right hand only i play much better than playing with lefty with my right hand.

    i can play bogie golf with right arm only on both sides.

    left arm only on both sides i couldn’t break 100.

    so i think when you turn around and hit on the other side. lefty for you, you’ll hit better with your right hand which is now your bottom hand.

  113. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Good stuff randy, thanks for sharing.

    “There are no stupid questions, but around here we all have plenty of stupid answers. – Line of the night, mac :lol:

    Did Mantle really hit a homer with one good arm…? We could use that kinda big hairy monster.

  114. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    “if i play lefty golf with my right hand only i play much better than playing with lefty with my right hand.”

    i meant “if i play lefty golf with my right hand only i play much better than playing lefty with my left hand.”

  115. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    “so i think when you turn around and hit on the other side. lefty for you, you’ll hit better with your right hand which is now your bottom hand.”

    I can’t hit lefty at all so it’d be tough for me….it’s easier to guide with that top hand though….

  116. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: But who will save the Bleacher Creatures? Column on the disappearing #Yankees: http://t.co/6yV5DO4Znx

  117. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    blake-

    it’s refreshing to talk mechanics after all the other stuff.

    you’re right about a right handed person having a really weak left arm for a good golf swing.

    that’s actually why hogan sais you have to do one arm left handed swings to train that arm. i’ve made more than a few people nervous on a driving range hitting right handed with only my left hand trying to train it.

    balls go every which way in the early stages :)

  118. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    “that’s actually why hogan sais you have to do one arm left handed swings to train that arm. i’ve made more than a few people nervous on a driving range hitting right handed with only my left hand trying to train it.”

    Yea i mean I used to do bottom hand only soft toss and stuff too….but I’ve always kinda thought that had is along for the ride in a swing…..the top ( dominant ) hand is the one that creates the swing path and the bottom just helps supply the power…..cool thing you posted earlier about elbow up and elbow down hitting…..that’s a whole other topic I won’t bore folks with ;)

  119. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    “I can’t hit lefty at all so it’d be tough for me….it’s easier to guide with that top hand though….”

    try it for the fun of it. you understand swinging so you’d figure it out pretty quick. i’m pretty sure you could hit lefty with your right hand easier. it’d be like a back hand in tennis.

    the only reason i can hit lefty as a righty is my father turned me around as a little kid and made me hit lefty. he did this because of yankee stadium. he thought that was the best way to hit :)

  120. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    “cool thing you posted earlier about elbow up and elbow down hitting…..that’s a whole other topic I won’t bore folks with”

    i actually don’t know about that one. i just saw it when i googled the right hand /left hand dominance thing. it looked interesting with jeter so i put up the link.

  121. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    If you watch Tex hit lefty his swing actually looks kinda like guys that don’t switch hit when they try to hit left handed…..basically you don’t feel comfortable or strong with your left hand so you try to guide with your strong hand which is now the bottom…..and everything collapses and you kinda swing upwards because its what feels natural……

    Tex has made it work for him because he was so talented and strong…..but not that the physical tools are slipping it’s harder for him to overcome

  122. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    “try it for the fun of it. you understand swinging so you’d figure it out pretty quick. i’m pretty sure you could hit lefty with your right hand easier. it’d be like a back hand in tennis.”

    I probably could….which is also why when I try to swing lefty I kinda look like Tex….collapsing and guiding with the bottom hand

  123. blake March 6th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Most switch hitters are better pure hitters from their natural side….IMO because that side their dominant hand is the top one…..some guys like Tex and Mantle develop more power maybe from the left side but they remain better pure hitters from the side where their naturally dominant hand is on top…..because that’s the hand that takes the barrel to the ball and I think you’re more accurate with that dominant hand leading the way….JMO….their are probably exceptions

  124. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 6th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    Shame, you’d have to be following that trial live to believe it. Jodi Arias makes OJ Simpson look like a choir boy. But all it takes is one to hang a jury – though I really don’t think it’s going to happen in this case – nor do I think she’s going to get the death penalty, though I think she deserves it. The defense actually not only played edits from one of the sex tapes – the raunchiest one they could find to defame the victim – they put the words up on a large screen for the jury to read while they listened. The prosecution on cross asked her if it was just a fantasy when Travis (the victim) said he wanted to tie her to a tree and (and then he proceeded to quote what was on the sex tape, using the exact words, which were horrifying.) That’s mormon territory, so that jury has to be appalled. And those tapes have been played over and over and over in court. Yikes.

    *******************

    Trader, I didn’t even think of that. Of course you’re right. So that’s my fear. And if the fear turns out to be based in reality, we’re going to have a pretty sorry situation at first. I thank the Lord Tex’s defense is stellar!

    **************

    I’ll put up the Prediction Chart. People are free to change their predictions due to changing circumstances. That’s why you have until the first pitch of the first game to finalize your prediction.

    ***************
    Reading that stuff in the Post about Martin makes me feel bad. I thought he just opted out. But the hew and cry against him on this forum throughout the season makes any protestation at this point sound pretty hypocritical.

  125. Felix Unger March 6th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    New Thread :arrow:

    ‘Wednesday notes: All the other stuff’…..…

  126. Dill Pickler March 7th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

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