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Spring training Game 12: Yankees vs. Team Dominican Republic

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 06, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (3-8)
Eduardo Nunez SS
Jayson Nix 2B
Travis Hafner DH
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Juan Rivera RF
Francisco Cervelli C
Matt Diaz LF
Melky Mesa CF
Luke Murton 1B

RHP Hiroki Kuroda (0-1, 5.40)

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (1-0)
Jose Reyes DH
Erick Aybar SS
Robinson Cano 2B
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Hanley Ramirez 3B
Nelson Cruz RF
Carlos Santana C
Ricardo Nanita LF
Alejandro De Aza CF

LHP Vidal Nuno (0-1, 1.80)

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network

WEATHER: Temperatures in the low 60s. Pretty significant wind blowing out.

UMPIRES: HP Mark Wegner, 1B Will Little, 2B Chad Whitson, 3B Marcus Pattilo

PLAYING FOR THE OTHER SIDE: Robinson Cano is Team Dominican Republic’s starting second baseman, and Juan Cedeno is in their bullpen. WBC roster have unusual pitching staffs, so a few Yankees will likely pitch for the DR today. That includes Vidal Nuno, who will be starting for the Dominican.

PRIORITIES: Melky Mesa was picked to play for the Dominican Republic, but he chose to stay in Yankees camp instead. He gets another start in center field today.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY: Today is Francisco Cervelli’s 27th birthday. He gets the start today and is 5-for-6 throwing out base runners this spring.

WHAT TO WATCH: It’s not so much about watching, but it’s worth paying attention in hopes for a Mark Teixeira update at some point today. That situation is far more important than today’s game. … Mesa, Matt Diaz and Juan Rivera each get a turn in the outfield today. All three are fighting for a job on the big league roster, but non has a spot locked up. … Jayson Nix is quietly having a pretty good spring. He’s batting .294 so far.

UPDATE, 1;11 p.m.: Kuroda gets Cano to fly to left to end the top of the first. Kuroda’s first two at-bats were strikeouts, so he’s off to a fine start against an awfully good D.R. lineup.

UPDATE, 1:22 p.m.: Nunez is clearly getting used to that shorter arm motion. He has the arm strength to get the ball to first, but his throws have been low lately. He just skipped a throw that barely beat Hanley Ramirez for the first out in the top of the second.

UPDATE, 1:27 p.m.: Kuroda pitches around a leadoff double by Encarnacion. He got Hanley Ramirez, Nelson Cruz and Carlos Santana in order to strand the runner, capping the inning with a strikeout that left Francisco Cervelli clapping as he walked to the dugout. It’s still 0-0.

UPDATE, 1:41 p.m.: It was a long way from graceful, but still a pretty nice tumbling catch by Matt Diaz in left field.

UPDATE, 1:43 p.m.: Every time you wonder why the Yankees keep using Eduardo Nunez at shorstop, remember that he’s able to get to a ball like that one. Up the middle, clearly heading for center field, Nunez was alble to cut it off and might have had a play against a slow runner. Inconsistency is an obvious problem, but the defensive tools are there.

UPDATE, 2:14 p.m.: Vidal Nuno looks terrific again. Of course, this time that means the Yankees offense looks pretty bad.

UPDATE, 2:24 p.m.: Cano with an RBI single to push the DR lead to 2-0. Of course, for many many reason, I don’t think Eppley is going to be facing Cano many times this season.

UPDATE, 2:30 p.m.: Jim Miller gets out of the fifth with a double play ball. Nunez and Nix each made nice plays to turn it. Now pitching for the Dominican, Jose Veras.

 
 

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239 Responses to “Spring training Game 12: Yankees vs. Team Dominican Republic”

  1. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Chip March 6th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    I wish they would have gotten Young.
    ————

    Michael?

    ————

    Yeah. I wanted him last off season. I thought it would have been a good depth move since he’s versatile re: where you can put him. I don’t think he’s a great defensive option at all of those positions but he can hit.

  2. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Oh god that wind. Please be careful Hiroki, we know the DR is insane

  3. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Go Hiroki-san! Go Cano!

  4. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    get used to seeing Cano vs Yankees

  5. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    I love the DR lineup.

  6. Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    i forgot to set the DVR to record the game on MLB Network today. not happy about that.
    interesting to see what sort of reaction Cano gets when he steps into the batter’s box
    for the 1st time.

    also want to see how Mesa does in the game. to me he looks like a legit contender to make
    the team and go up north.
    i like his bat a lot more than Juan Rivera.

  7. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    UnKnown March 6th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 9:15 am
    Ugh on the Tex news…

    ——–

    Has anyone said anything more than what we knew last night yet?

    —————–

    Nope.

  8. FiretheUMPIRE March 6th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Would be nice if Hosmer replaced Teixeira in the Yankees lineup. My how Tex has fallen.

  9. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Could Joseph play the OF?

  10. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    i forgot to set the DVR to record the game on MLB Network today. not happy about that.
    interesting to see what sort of reaction Cano gets when he steps into the batter’s box
    for the 1st time.
    —————–

    It is an exhibition game. Fans will cheer.

  11. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    :x Hirok :x

    2 awesome outs so far. Now its time for kin to face kin :(

  12. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Rich,

    He has had a rough spring but was good at 2b last year

  13. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Rich, no.

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Could Joseph play the OF?
    ///

    I suppose he could stand in right with a glove on, but when he actually would have to move, it would be ugly :) . Shame – can hit like heck.

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Rich,

    He has had a rough spring but was good at 2b last year
    ///

    Joseph is not a good 2B, and he could never be the Yankees 2B.

  16. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    So that’s a no…

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    Rich,

    That is a NFW.

  18. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    I know we’ve been harping on it and it won’t happen but man I’d like to see Nunez get time at 3B. He’s looked a lot better defensively so far and I’m not saying he’s be gold glove caliber out there but he’s had such nice ABs this spring I’d really love for him to get regular playing time.

  19. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Nunez needs to stay at SS. 3B would screw up his SS, and he hasn’t had enough reps at 3B to play there. You cannot just put him there in a major league game without the reps.

  20. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    The Yankees seem to be so inflexible that even the usual Yankee acolyte, Sweeny Murti, is questioning why Granderson isn’t playing LF.

    Same with Nunez at 3B, probably.

  21. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Anderson Feliz is the best defensive 2B I’ve seen in the system, when it comes to arm, smoothness, etc. His kind of effortless style reminds me of Cano (no – he’s not on Cano’s level).

    Gumbs was good when I saw him, especially as a duo with Cito, but Feliz seems to have a very good feel for 2B, even though he is a little raw.

    Both Feliz and Gumbs are super athletic guys, unlike Joseph, who is a professional hitter type with limited range and athleticism. It’s not like he boots balls, he just isn’t that good of an athlete.

  22. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    “Nunez needs to stay at SS. 3B would screw up his SS, and he hasn’t had enough reps at 3B to play there. You cannot just put him there in a major league game without the reps.”

    He’s had reps. He’s an athlete. He is likely going to struggle a little anywhere they play him until he relaxes. They need offense. Barring a trade, he gives them the best chance to give at least some if Tex can’t go and Youkilis is needed at 1B.

  23. UnKnown March 6th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Nunez helmet goes flying again…

    Didn’t Tex have something up with his wrist last year too?
    Where he was getting a cortisone shot and resting it often.

    I remember him hurting it on a dive for a ground ball while playing first base towards like the start of the second half of the season. I wonder if it is a lingering thing or whatever.

  24. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Interesting throw by Nunez there. We know he has the arm strength to not 3 hop it from deep short, but maybe he was worried about sailing it.

  25. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    lol nunez…

  26. pkyankfan69 March 6th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Sweet throw Nuneee

  27. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Unknown

    That was the other wrist:

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....-mri-wrist

  28. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    I don’t know if that throw would have made it from 3B.

  29. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    K

  30. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Kuroda looking very good, throwing easy.

  31. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Rich, I don’t see it happening.

  32. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    yf

    Nunez at 3B? Neither do I. I don’t see Granderson in LF. I see Stew as the starting C.

  33. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Nunez’s issue is 100% mental.
    Chuck Knoblauch went from GG 2B to being absolutely unable to throw the ball to first.
    I hope Nunez can get his head straight or he is never going to be successful in the bigs.

  34. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Nunez needs to stay at SS. 3B would screw up his SS, and he hasn’t had enough reps at 3B to play there. You cannot just put him there in a major league game without the reps.

    ——————-

    I agree.. that he should get reps there lol. He did in the winter, he should be getting them now. Once they knew Arod wasn’t going to be a factor they should have tried. Nunez really has no place on the team if he can only back up one position.

  35. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Hehehehe..

    @MikeFrancesaNY

    Niese hit hahd by Awl-Stahs! STOP DA PRESSES! MT @NYDNHarper Niese hit hard by Venezuela. With question, mets look 2 niese 2 become stopper

  36. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    “Nunez’s issue is 100% mental.”

    I’d say about 75%. His footwork isn’t great at times.

  37. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Nunez at 3B? Neither do I. I don’t see Granderson in LF. I see Stew as the starting C.
    ___

    Cervelli will be the starting C and hopefully Romine will have a good first half in AAA and come up in the summer, push Cervelli to back up and Stewie out of the 40 man.

    Gardner should be in CF, but missing ST with an injury means Grandy has no way of learning the position. Keeping him in CF makes sense, unless it becomes obvious he is hurting us there. He isn’t exactly Raul Ibanez out there. Plus with Ichiro and Gardner on his sides he wont have to do as much work.

  38. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Gardner should be in CF, but missing ST with an injury means Grandy has no way of learning the position.

    He has to rehab for close to a month in the minors and he doesn’t need to learn LF. He is a centerfielder, left field should be a piece of cake for him.

  39. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Also he has played LF 100 times in his career!

  40. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    “Nunez’s issue is 100% mental.”

    I’d say about 75%. His footwork isn’t great at times.
    —————

    Whatever his issue is, it isn’t improving.

  41. Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Derek Jeter on Brian Cashman’s ankle injury:
    “I have a scooter and a wheelchair if he wants to use it.”

    I love this Jeter quote. Made me laugh so hard that I had to post it here for looks

  42. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Jeeze, Nunez bounces one throw from short and lobs another one…he’s actually getting worse as spring moves on.

  43. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Nunez’s new throwing mechanics are not in effect. He went pretty far behind his head on that lob. Almost threw too high.

  44. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    “Cervelli will be the starting C and hopefully Romine will have a good first half in AAA and come up in the summer, push Cervelli to back up and Stewie out of the 40 man.”

    Girardi has said that he will pick his starting catcher based on defense.

    “Gardner should be in CF, but missing ST with an injury means Grandy has no way of learning the position. Keeping him in CF makes sense, unless it becomes obvious he is hurting us there. He isn’t exactly Raul Ibanez out there. Plus with Ichiro and Gardner on his sides he wont have to do as much work.”

    How hard is it for a CF to learn LF? He is going to need a rehab assignement. He has already played LF. He can relearn there.

  45. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Didn’t see JF’s post.

  46. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    So Girardi will base his catcher on defense but his CF on comfort…interesting.

    Again, I don’t think it’s news to anyone that Girardi has an agenda when it comes to what he wants to see from his catchers. He’s looking for catchers like him.

  47. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Ryan Westmoreland retires from baseball due to the cavernous malformation in his brain.

  48. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Chip

    Maybe he’ll surprise us. If Tex can’t go (Granderson down, A-Rod out, Swisher gone, etc.), the marginal benefit of better defense may be an illusion.

  49. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    “Cervelli will be the starting C and hopefully Romine will have a good first half in AAA and come up in the summer, push Cervelli to back up and Stewie out of the 40 man.”

    Girardi has said that he will pick his starting catcher based on defense.

    Yeah, have you been watching? Cervelli looks much better so far.

  50. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    How hard is it for a CF to learn LF? He is going to need a rehab assignement. He has already played LF. He can relearn there.
    ___

    Im going to guess it’s probably not as easy as it seems, but you are right it is certainly doable. I see the Yankees logic in this one though, plus with Gardner and Ichiro around him, he wont have to cover 90% of the field like last year. He isn’t a bad CF, but i was all on board for the Gardner in cf and grandy in lf.

  51. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    “Cervelli will be the starting C and hopefully Romine will have a good first half in AAA and come up in the summer, push Cervelli to back up and Stewie out of the 40 man.”

    Girardi has said that he will pick his starting catcher based on defense.

    Yeah, have you been watching? Cervelli looks much better so far.
    ________________________

    Cervelli has been really good behind the plate this year and throwing runners out while Stewie looked like a rubber arm the other day. Trust me, Cervelli is catching opening day unless he gets hurt.

  52. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Im going to guess it’s probably not as easy as it seems, but you are right it is certainly doable. I see the Yankees logic in this one though, plus with Gardner and Ichiro around him, he wont have to cover 90% of the field like last year. He isn’t a bad CF, but i was all on board for the Gardner in cf and grandy in lf.

    If he is so bad he needs Gardner and Ichiro to help him cover ground, then he needs to be in LF so that Gardner can cover LCF and RCF. LF is easier, period. It is asinine to think that a guy is good enough to play in CF but not in LF. Thats never been true at any point in baseball history. CF is the bigger part of any ballpark, with the most responsibility.

  53. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Again, I don’t think it’s news to anyone that Girardi has an agenda when it comes to what he wants to see from his catchers. He’s looking for catchers like him.
    ___

    I agree though history shows us this team is at it’s best with an offensive minded catcher. Won 5 titles with Posada and he was no whiz behind the plate.
    Montero would have fit that mold.
    Hopefully Sanchez will..

  54. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    If he is so bad he needs Gardner and Ichiro to help him cover ground, then he needs to be in LF so that Gardner can cover LCF and RCF. LF is easier, period. It is asinine to think that a guy is good enough to play in CF but not in LF. Thats never been true at any point in baseball history. CF is the bigger part of any ballpark, with the most responsibility.
    ___

    Relax dude. The point was last year Granderson was basically playing OF by himself. Swish had no range and LF was basically empty all year. Granderson was covering way more ground than a CF is normally asked. I have no doubt he tired late in the year, which led to the increase in K’s and decrease in his OF range. Having 3 OFs will provide the normalcy outfielders thrive in. I never said Granderson was a bad CF, just the opposite actually.

  55. blake March 6th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    Ryan Westmoreland retires from baseball due to the cavernous malformation in his brain.

    very unfortunate….I hate to hear stuff like that no matter who they play for

  56. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    “Swish had no range”

    Swisher is at least a league average RF, may be better. He’s probably a better RF than Granderson is a CF.

  57. blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    like him or not…..they could really use Swisher or a player like him about right now

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  59. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Swisher is at least a league average RF, may be better. He’s probably a better RF than Granderson is a CF.
    ____

    Absolutely not better than Granderson at his position.
    That being said, I would love to have Swisher right now based on everything happening lately.

  60. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
    like him or not…..they could really use Swisher or a player like him about right now

    ____________________________________

    They could, but he was not worth the money or years it would have taken to sign him, especially when he chokes in the postseason

  61. blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    “They could, but he was not worth the money or years it would have taken to sign him, especially when he chokes in the postseason”

    maybe wouldn’t have been worth the contract at his age….but they could use somebody like him….they wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year without him IMO

  62. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Wanna see a lack of range in RF, watch that hit

  63. Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
    like him or not…..they could really use Swisher or a player like him about right now
    ************************************************************************
    Well this didn’t take long
    ST is about 1/2 done and there are people here who are wishing that
    Swisher or someone like him was on the team.

    Don’t you have faith in Mesa? I think he is the clear cut favorite to win an OF job and by the looks of it, the kid is ready to play at the major league level.

    Have some of you forgotten the terrible swings and misses from Swisher in clutch situations?
    Have some of you forgotten that Swish is slow and his arm is maybe average.
    Melky is much faster and has a stronger arm.

  64. DONNYBROOK March 6th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Talking about guys that are Gone, serves NO purpose. What Yankee fans need is for Hal to come outta hiding an do a Ricky Ricardo and splain what is going on. This degrading of a Premiere franchise brings Marge Schott to mind.

  65. Bronx Jeers March 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    That’s one of those earned(unearned) runs.

  66. blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    “Melky is much faster and has a stronger arm.”

    when he consistently puts up 4 WAR seasons and hits 25 homers a year in the show then let me know

  67. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Absolutely not better than Granderson at his position.
    That being said, I would love to have Swisher right now based on everything happening lately.
    _

    That’s subjective.

  68. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Don’t you have faith in Mesa? I think he is the clear cut favorite to win an OF job and by the looks of it, the kid is ready to play at the major league level.

    Have some of you forgotten the terrible swings and misses from Swisher in clutch situations?
    Have some of you forgotten that Swish is slow and his arm is maybe average.
    Melky is much faster and has a stronger arm.

    Eh Swisher is going to OPS .800+ this season. He was our clutchest hitter last season. He is a very good, underrated player. Melky Mesa barely OPSes .800 in the minors. Its going to be difficult for Mesa to be a league average hitter.

    Swisher is a good player, too expensive if the Yankees really want to be on a budget, but a guy the 2000′s yankees wouldn’t have let go.

  69. blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Juan Rivera…..

  70. blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Again I’m not necessarily saying they should have matched the contract the Indians gave Swisher at his age…..just that they are going to miss him more than people think…..and they could use him right now for sure

  71. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Which is why Swisher should have been traded a year ago.

  72. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Interesting from Curry:

    1. Girardi has told Granderson that when he comes back it will be as the CF’er
    2. Curry thinks the team is leaning towards taking Mesa and Diaz as opposed to Mesa and Rivera.

  73. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Jack Curry says Girardi told Granderson he’d be in CF when he comes back. So while it may change, its looking more like that Granderson to CF is the official stance now.

    So whatever, its dumb.

  74. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Im assuming they are leaning towards Diaz because of defense, cuz he looks awful at bat.

  75. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Curry is their mouthpiece.

  76. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Which is why Swisher should have been traded a year ago.
    —————-

    yeah but if you’re competing for a title you don’t trade one of the productive guys in your lineup.

    Yankees essentially traded Swisher for whomever they will get with that draft pick plus Ichiro.

  77. Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    Interesting from Curry:

    1. Girardi has told Granderson that when he comes back it will be as the CF’er
    2. Curry thinks the team is leaning towards taking Mesa and Diaz as opposed to Mesa and Rivera.
    *************************************************************************
    Juan R. is playing himself out of a job. He needs to get a lot of hits and fast or else
    he will be released.

  78. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    “yeah but if you’re competing for a title you don’t trade one of the productive guys in your lineup.”

    And then sign Beltran.

  79. Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    Enough about Swisher. Regardless of this stats, the price tag was far too high.
    I don’t care if he is an all-star in Cleveland or not, the price tag was still far too high
    and the Yankees did the right thing not to sign him.

  80. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Im assuming they are leaning towards Diaz because of defense, cuz he looks awful at bat.
    —————-

    Diaz has better career numbers against LHP and, more importantly, better numbers as a sub than Rivera.

  81. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    “yeah but if you’re competing for a title you don’t trade one of the productive guys in your lineup.”

    And then sign Beltran.
    ————-

    Making an old team older.

  82. mick March 6th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    What happened to the YES feed?

  83. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    Enough about Swisher. Regardless of this stats, the price tag was far too high.
    I don’t care if he is an all-star in Cleveland or not, the price tag was still far too high
    and the Yankees did the right thing not to sign him.
    —————-

    Agreed. The decisions to part with Swisher, Ibanez and Martin were all the right calls.

  84. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    mick March 6th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    What happened to the YES feed?
    —————

    Obviously Hal has cut back on the types of broadcasting satellites in an attempt to lower the expenses so that he can save money.

  85. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    maybe wouldn’t have been worth the contract at his age….but they could use somebody like him….they wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year without him IMO

    _____________________________________

    Maybe so,but he sure hasn’t done then any good when they’ve gotten there has he?

  86. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Rivera just earned his release in RF.

  87. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    Rivera just earned his release in RF.

    ________________________________

    What did he do?

  88. pkyankfan69 March 6th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Juan Rivera lookin BRUTAL in the OF.

    I would have thrown the TV remote had this been a regular season game when he let that blooper fall.

  89. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    Rivera just earned his release in RF.

    ________________________________

    What did he do?
    —————-

    Ran in to field the ball, it was on the ground and not moving, and he missed it completely.

  90. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    “Agreed. The decisions to part with Swisher, Ibanez and Martin were all the right calls.”

    The problem isn’t that they moved on from that. It’s that they haven’t replaced them. (I’m not including Ibanez because he had a ridiculously weird season, very good at home, DFA’able on the road. Horrible for long stretches. Unconsciously great for others.)

  91. Bronx Jeers March 6th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    What did he do?

    —————————————-
    Couldn’t field a basehit

  92. pkyankfan69 March 6th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    What did he do?
    ———————————-
    Let a blooper drop (although I can understand not diving in spring training) and then let a roller get passed him, when he ran back and got the ball he threw the ball away. Looks like he has stone hands and feet.

  93. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Looper to shallow right, he ran right past it, run scores. Looked awful. That and the shallow fly ball earlier that he took the Great Circle route to before watching it drop.

  94. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Nice DP. Phew!

  95. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    “Agreed. The decisions to part with Swisher, Ibanez and Martin were all the right calls.”

    The problem isn’t that they moved on from that. It’s that they haven’t replaced them. (I’m not including Ibanez because he had a ridiculously weird season, very good at home, DFA’able on the road. Horrible for long stretches. Unconsciously great for others.)
    —————–

    But they did replace them.

    Cervelli and Romine might not hit for the same power that Martin did, but the rest of the numbers will be at least similar, maybe better. For less than half the price.

    Ichiro’s a different type of player than Swisher is, won’t hit for the same power, but will do other things.

    What the Yankees did, either by choice or by necessity based on finances is they moved away from a HR dependent lineup to one that’s more of a 1990′s NL team. Which is sort of the same thing the Yankees did when Torre first came in.

    When you look at it in terms of the additions being:

    Ichiro
    Youk
    Gardner (because he didn’t play last year)
    Cervelli
    Hafner

    and the subtractions being:
    Alex
    Swish
    Ibanez
    Martin

    You’re going to have a team that gets on base more and runs more.

  96. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    “Agreed. The decisions to part with Swisher, Ibanez and Martin were all the right calls.”

    Rich in NJ. Couldn’t agree more. No team, particularly one as rich as the Yankees, gets rid of their best players BEFORE they have suitable replacements lined up. We’re barely halfway through spring training and already their veteran squad has been ravaged by injuries. I’ll bet the Vegas line on them winning 86 matches is dropping with each passing day.

  97. Warning Track Power March 6th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    Even before the game today, Rivera was on the outside looking in.
    His age for one is a big negative. His lack of speed does not help either.
    Both Diaz and Mesa are better defenders in the OF.

    I am really high on Mesa. I like his aggressiveness and it’s about time a young kid from the minors was giving a job coming out of ST.

  98. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    but has less power

  99. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    WTP =

    Diaz is older than Rivera. But you’re right – Rivera is on the outside.

  100. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Bruce,

    The Yankees didn’t get rid of their best players. They let Swisher go, but Ibanez and Martin were arguably their two worst all around offensive performers last year.

  101. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Chip, you can’t have your cake and eat. You’re leaving Chavez, Jones and Soriano (to name but three) off the list of subtractions yet including Gardner and Cervelli (who were already on the roster) on it.

    Any way you want to cut it, Cashman and ownership did a terrible job this winter.

  102. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Chip

    I don’t think they are sufficient replacements.

  103. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    All the “Got Melk?” t-shirt owners are hoping Mesa makes the team.

  104. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Chip, you can’t have your cake and eat. You’re leaving Chavez, Jones and Soriano (to name but three) off the list of subtractions yet including Gardner and Cervelli (who were already on the roster) on it.

    Any way you want to cut it, Cashman and ownership did a terrible job this winter.
    —————–

    I was talking about starters but I don’t think anyone is going to miss Andruw Jones. The Yankees have plenty of pen depth to replace Soriano. Chavez they’ll miss, but that wasn’t something they could do anything about – he wanted to play in Arizona because that’s where his family is. Nothing you can do about that.

  105. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Chip

    I don’t think they are sufficient replacements.
    —————

    That’s how I felt about Mariano Duncan, Tino and Girardi replacing Velarde, Donnie and Mike Stanley – I’m taking a wait and see approach to this group.

  106. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    You were worried about Tino, who OPS’d .900 the season before coming to the Yankees?

  107. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Face,

    Wasn’t sure how he would do going from a small market to replacing the most popular Yankee in decades. Seemed like there might be a touch of pressure to live up to.

  108. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Chip

    Agree that they aren’t going to miss Jones, but he did hit a lot of homers in the first half of the season. As for the loss of Soriano, they are totally reliant on Mo coming back as good as ever, which is a big ask for someone of his age following a serious injury.

    I think the bottom line is that last year, the squad had a lot of depth. This year, there is no depth at all.

    We all know they aren’t going to score as many runs this year, which means they are almost totally reliant on their starting pitchers staying healthy all year. What are the chances of CC, Andy and Hughes all making 30+ starts? You cane have 1,000-1 with me.

  109. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    and, FWIW, in 1996 not many people were paying attention to OPS.

  110. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    my dad and i were watching a spring training game in sarasota way back in the early eighties and an unknown to us young player who was stealing second kept going on a ground ball up the middle that went straight to the center fielder. the kid scored standing up.

    my father and i looked at each other like what the heck just happened. there was no mishandling on the play. juan samuel just plain outran the ball.

  111. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Gardner – Mesa – Ichiro would be a nice defensive outfield.

  112. andrewmelillo March 6th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Whos going take tex spot at first

  113. blake March 6th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    The Yankee offense is performing about how I’d expected today.

  114. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    “I am really high on Mesa. I like his aggressiveness and it’s about time a young kid from the minors was giving a job coming out of ST.”

    I like his power and defense…..but I do think he may swing and miss a lot of baseballs in the big leagues

  115. CompassRosy March 6th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    “I agree though history shows us this team is at it’s best with an offensive minded catcher. Won 5 titles with Posada and he was no whiz behind the plate.
    Montero would have fit that mold.”

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    watch out, Jesus!

    http://tinyurl.com/bkc6wwm

  116. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    “The Yankee offense is performing about how I’d expected today.”

    what are you, some kind of negative nancy? a nattering nabob of negativism?

    just kidding blake :)

  117. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    I like his power and defense…..but I do think he may swing and miss a lot of baseballs in the big leagues

    __________________________________

    Just as you say that, he draws a walk. LOL!

  118. G. Love March 6th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Look, many of us griped about the offensive approaches, especially in the post season, of guys like Swisher, Tex, Grandy & Martin.

    The fact that we griped wasn’t that we just wanted them off the team. We wanted better replacements brought in.

    What Cashman did by saying, “you all want less HR’s, here you go!” is act like we wanted a light hitting team that struggles to score.

    That’s not what anyone was advocating. The fact that the Yankees made no additions and brought in no depth is the issue we had. They basically replaced nobody.

    Ichiro wasn’t an addition. He was already here. Same with Gardner.

    And it wasn’t that we didn’t want to see the kids get a chance. By all accounts, the hitters closest to the majors weren’t that special or could hit a little but couldn’t field. Putting faith into guys who struggled in AAA to make the jump smoothly is ludicrous. It wasn’t a stocked upper level system brimming with talent.

    The team is what it is now. They’re going to pitch well most nights and struggle to score and stay healthy.

    Girardi finally got his NL lineup. That’s what the Yankees have turned into. Let’s see him win manager of the year with it like he did in Florida with the Marlins in 2006.

  119. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    “Just as you say that, he draws a walk. LOL!”

    and? I hope he makes the team….just think he will probably K a lot

  120. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    “What Cashman did by saying, “you all want less HR’s, here you go!” is act like we wanted a light hitting team that struggles to score.”

    nobody ever said anything about having less homers…..Cashman made that part up…..what fans wanted was more of everything else

  121. pkyankfan69 March 6th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Kahnle a member the 2014 Yankee bullpen?

  122. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Gardner is basically an addition from last year since he hardly played.

  123. G. Love March 6th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    blake,

    Please don’t confuse the narrative. If you’re a Cashman critic it means you want no offense. There’s no in between.

  124. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    “Please don’t confuse the narrative. If you’re a Cashman critic it means you want no offense. There’s no in between.”

    we fans called for no homers, no OBP, and mucho plodding

  125. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    “Gardner is basically an addition from last year since he hardly played.”

    sure and he helps….sure be nice to have him plus somebody else that can hit though.

  126. Tidrow March 6th, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    The problem last year wasn’t the fact they scored most of their runs with the long ball. The problem was that the long ball was nowhere to be found when needed the most more times than not. They were all or nothing with a propensity to come up short in the big spot. That’s what frustrated me the most. I welcome a reshuffling of the deck; new blood so to speak. If they would have brought same cast of characters back I would not have looked as forward to season as I do now.

  127. G. Love March 6th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Stop being greedy and entitled blake. It’s unbecoming. Take a macro view which means watch the team with your eyes closed atop a lofty pedestal far away from any stadium, field or TV set.

  128. G. Love March 6th, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Tidrow,

    I agree with you. A lot of us wanted reshuffling. We just didn’t want to play 52 pick up.

  129. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    The offense has the potential to be “good enough” if they pitch….and by that I mean pitch as good or better than last year. The problem is that that only holds up if they are healthy enough to do it and that’s not really off to a great start……you build a team with loads of injury and age related risk without a lot of depth backing it up and it can be recipe for disaster……lets hope this is just getting the kinks out early….

  130. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    “Just as you say that, he draws a walk. LOL!”

    and? I hope he makes the team….just think he will probably K a lot

    ____________________________________

    Yeah, just like Swisher did

  131. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    “Stop being greedy and entitled blake. It’s unbecoming. Take a macro view which means watch the team with your eyes closed atop a lofty pedestal far away from any stadium, field or TV set.”

    I’ve had a lot of fun watching the prospects this spring…..but aside from Gardner….the real team has been about as exciting as watching a shuffle board match.

  132. FiretheUMPIRE March 6th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    G. Love March 6th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    “Look, many of us griped about the offensive approaches, especially in the post season, of guys like Swisher, Tex, Grandy & Martin.

    The fact that we griped wasn’t that we just wanted them off the team. We wanted better replacements brought in.”

    This is true but the Yankees are limited considering minor league trade assets are too far away and the roster is bogged down with big contracts. So basically we were hoping to acquire cheap producers with no compelling prospects to showcase in trades for them. You can’t add good young cost-effective players without compelling prospects to trade close to the majors. With Tex and Arod, how were the Yankees going to add a big free agent or even a decent one?

    We got caught in between this off season.

    It will go down as one of Cashman’s worst but I’m not sure how many viable options were realistically available. Even one-and-done decent hitters like Morse cost a good young major league player in Jaso.

    And we were expecting long term replacements and upgrades to these guys…

    For who?

  133. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Yeah, just like Swisher did

    Swisher strikes out 21% of the time in the majors. Mesa 27.5% of the time in the minors, and thats a rate that tends to increase in the majors. And he doesn’t have Swisher’s walk rate to back it up.

  134. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    “Yeah, just like Swisher did”

    Melky Mesa career minor league OPS: .751
    Nick Swisher career major league OPS: .828

    Swisher gets on base about 50 points higher in the majors as Mesa has in the minor leagues…..I like Mesa but offensively he’s not going to replace Swisher’s production

  135. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Zoilo! 2nd opposite field HR! Helped a lot by the wind tho

  136. UnKnown March 6th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Wow I didn’t realize that we were being no-hit up until that shot by the Zoo Man

  137. yankeefeminista March 6th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Zoological goes oppo!

  138. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    I hope Zoilo and one of Mesa/Musty make the team…..send Rivera and Diaz back to the scrap heap.

  139. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    “the real team has been about as exciting as watching a shuffle board match.”

    blake -

    yeah, but i still think the yankees are more exciting than olympic curling.
    except when they use the broom of course :)

  140. 4 NYY March 6th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    I hope Zoilo and one of Mesa/Musty make the team…..send Rivera and Diaz back to the scrap heap.

    ====================

    They just HAVE to !!! Ibanez was better in the field than Rivera.

  141. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Zoological takes one deep to right for four bases, so does Wilson, for two.
    I thinks this Dominican team would win most of the MLB divisions.

  142. tucker March 6th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Anybody else concerned about the possibility of a slow start with this season?

    Jeter recovering from ankle surgery, Grandy injured, Tex, Mo recovering … Seems to be a lot of questions heading to the start of the season. Will Jeter regain his range? Even if Tex doesn’t open the season on the DL, will his timing be off because of lack of Spring Training swings?

  143. jacksquat March 6th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    They can’t use the “don’t want a young guy playing part time” excuse for Mustelier, he’s 28 and doesn’t really have anything left to prove in the minors.

  144. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    “yeah, but i still think the yankees are more exciting than olympic curling.
    except when they use the broom of course ”

    I like curling….way better than watching Rivera chase a fly fall anyways

  145. blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    “Anybody else concerned about the possibility of a slow start with this season?”

    uhm….right now I’m hovering over the panic button…..waiting to see what happens with Tex’s wrist

  146. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    “Yeah, just like Swisher did”

    Melky Mesa career minor league OPS: .751
    Nick Swisher career major league OPS: .828

    Swisher gets on base about 50 points higher in the majors as Mesa has in the minor leagues…..I like Mesa but offensively he’s not going to replace Swisher’s production

    __________________________________

    Didn’t say he would. Just saying for the money and years that Swisher would have cost, Mesa isn’t a bad option at as a replacement

  147. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
    Zoilo! 2nd opposite field HR! Helped a lot by the wind tho

    ___________________________________

    Oh of course, has to be an excuse attached no? Couldn’t possibly give Zolio credit for supplying the power the opposite way

  148. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    It wasn’t too long ago that many people on this board were questioning whether Gardner was an everyday player for the Yankees. Now he’s a key outfielder? If that’s the case, then something has gone horribly wrong. We know he can’t hit for power so I sure hope his bunting and base stealing improve this year. IMHO, at best he’s a fourth outfielder and a useful bench player.

  149. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Rivera, Johnson and Diaz do not look like major league players. Nice job on making them the bench. Cheap, cheap. Exceedingly stupid.

    Mesa doesn’t look like he will hit either. Maybe Almonte and Mustelier. that’s who I would keep.

    Many of you are spending a lot of time on where the outfielders play. By far the bigger question is how will this team score.

  150. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    IMHO, at best he’s a fourth outfielder and a useful bench player.

    He is probably going to be in the top 3 of OBP for the Yankees this season. You can say that says more about the Yankees than Gardner, but he is a valuable player.

  151. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Oh of course, has to be an excuse attached no? Couldn’t possibly give Zolio credit for supplying the power the opposite way

    The wind is blowing out like crazy to RF, just the facts!

  152. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Tejada is faster than Cano. Nice base running. Seeya, Dan.

  153. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
    Oh of course, has to be an excuse attached no? Couldn’t possibly give Zolio credit for supplying the power the opposite way

    The wind is blowing out like crazy to RF, just the facts!

    _________________________

    Uh huh.

  154. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    “Many of you are spending a lot of time on where the outfielders play. By far the bigger question is how will this team score.”

    They’re going to need people Ichiro, Youkilis and Hafner maxing out, especially early.

    Jeter and Gardner have to be good, being and staying healthy.

    And then have the stones to play Almonte/Nunez/Cervelli to reap as much offensive upside as possible.

    Oh yeah, and Cano has to be great.

  155. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Mesa doesn’t look like he will hit either. Maybe Almonte and Mustelier. that’s who I would keep.

    ______________________________________

    Mesa will hit. Problem is he will also swing and miss alot

  156. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Uh huh.

    Dare you doubt the wind?

  157. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Dare you doubt the wind?

    _________________________

    Dare you doubt Zolio’s power???????

  158. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    bruceb,

    Gardner was the fourth best outfielder. No longer the case. It says far more about the team than about anyone’s assessment of Gardner.

  159. Dill Pickler March 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    “The decisions to part with Swisher, Ibanez and Martin were all the right calls.”

    Agree on Swisher and Martin (though I think they should have replaced Martin with an actual major league catcher who can hit), but certainly not Ibanez. How is Hafner an upgrade from Ibanez? Ibanez was easily the best clutch hitter the Yanks had last year, he was obviously phenomenal in the postseason when the rest of the team tanked (again), and he wasn’t any more expensive than Hafner, really. Plus Ibanez isn’t half as injury prone as Hafner, and can actually play the field if need be.

  160. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Dare you doubt Zolio’s power???????

    Did I darest? Nay.

  161. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Mesa will hit.

    Hit what? League average? Below? Above?

  162. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Did I darest? Nay.

    _____________________________

    Apparently yay, since you gave the wind so much credit

  163. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Apparently yay, since you gave the wind so much credit

    Were my exclamation marks not sufficient for you?

  164. blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    if the wind helped the homer there is nothing wrong with saying that…..still good approach to go that way

  165. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Were my exclamation marks not sufficient for you?

    _______________________________________

    No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  166. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
    Mesa will hit.

    Hit what? League average? Below? Above?

    _________________________________

    Yes

  167. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    if the wind helped the homer there is nothing wrong with saying that…..still good approach to go that way

    We must not besmirch thy minor leaguers. Melky Mesa is better than Swisher and Almonte is the new barry bonds!

  168. blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Gardner isn’t a 4th outfielder….he’s basically Bourne with less BA and more OBP……

  169. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Yes

    Unbelievable that you’d think Melky Mesa would hit below league average.

  170. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Mesa’s minor league numbers certainly translate into a sub .700 OPS in the majors. That is not major league average, particularly for an outfielder.

    Replacing Swisher with a guy who can’t hit will never be smart in my opinion. If you wanted Swisher to leave despite the fact he was the second or third best hitter last year, that’s fine. Not to replace him with a good player, is not.

    The offense this year will struggle mightily. Hafner and his .228 average is not an answer. Diaz and Rivera are not answers. The answers wanted multi-year contracts.

  171. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:05 pm
    Yes

    Unbelievable that you’d think Melky Mesa would hit below league average.

    ____________________________________________

    I beleive your last question was “Above?” And I said Yes

  172. blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa
    NYY knew about A-Rod’s hip in December, signed injury-prone Youkilis a week later, yet only MiLB 3B they added was … Dan Johnson? Welp.

  173. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    We must not besmirch thy minor leaguers. Melky Mesa is better than Swisher and Almonte is the new barry bonds!

    ___________________________________________

    THou shalt not praise them either, for fear of blaspheming our former heroes (Swisher)

  174. blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    “THou shalt not praise them either, for fear of blaspheming our former heroes (Swisher)”

    somebody slept in the hyperbolic chamber last night.

  175. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    somebody slept in the hyperbolic chamber last night

    ________________________________

    Nah, that was Terrell Owens

  176. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    I believe Melky Mesa will hit below league average. Have you looked at his minor league stats? He doesn’t walk and chases everything. That doesn’t translate well with pitchers with scouting reports and control. He isn’t a 26 year old who has never played in the majors for no reason. His big flaw is hitting. That isn’t good when the team’s big need is hitting.

  177. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    “The offense this year will struggle mightily.”

    This was foreseeable a year ago. Many of us posted it, ad nauseam, to some.

    But the GM said they had offense to spare.

    So who are mere fans to question the ninja GM?

  178. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    I believe Melky Mesa will hit below league average. Have you looked at his minor league stats? He doesn’t walk and chases everything. That doesn’t translate well with pitchers with scouting reports and control. He isn’t a 26 year old who has never played in the majors for no reason. His big flaw is hitting. That isn’t good when the team’s big need is hitting
    __________________________________

    Also belted 23 homers last season in AAA. Those weren’t by accident. There ARE coaches who can work with him (Kevin Long) to try and improve his plate coverage and pitch recognition I think he deserves at least a chance before being written off

  179. mick March 6th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    questioning is one thing, ad nauseum another.

    with almonte and mesa making the team seems like no room for rivera/diaz.

  180. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    How does Josh Spence play for the Dominican?

  181. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Dill Pickler. Correct. Ibanez has been less injury-prone than Hefner.

    The only good thing about this year is that I have no expectations of the Yanks winning the division, let alone a 28th Championship, so I can sit back and enjoy the baseball without worrying about the result. That’s the first time I’ve said that in the last 20 years.

    Mind you, whether I’ll be able to stick with that mantra is a moot point!

  182. tucker March 6th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    The Yanks should start giving Mustelier some reps at third base. They may need him to start the season there if Tex is injured.

    I know the apparent concern raised by Chad yesterday is how well minor leaguers can transition to the bigs while playing part time. But Mustelier is the best bat among this gaggle of rookies and washed-out vets. they should be able to get him plenty of ABs if Tex starts the season on the DL.

  183. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Also belted 23 homers last season in AAA. Those weren’t by accident. There ARE coaches who can work with him (Kevin Long) to try and improve his plate coverage and pitch recognition I think he deserves at least a chance before being written off

    He didn’t hit 23 homers in AAA, he hit 23 between AA and AAA. He hit .230 .271 .524 .794 in AAA. I don’t think anyone here is not giving him a chance. We all want Mustelier/Melky/Almonte to get a shot over Rivera & Diaz. But its another thing to say he is going to outpace a proven bat like Nick Swisher.

  184. austinmac March 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Mesa’s yearly batting averages in the minors: 12-.264, 11-.240, 10-.260, 09-.225. Plus, he has about four times as many Ks at BBs. No, he will not hit.

  185. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    “questioning is one thing, ad nauseum another.”

    Good point, from the negativity police.

  186. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    He didn’t hit 23 homers in AAA, he hit 23 between AA and AAA. He hit .230 .271 .524 .794 in AAA. I don’t think anyone here is not giving him a chance. We all want Mustelier/Melky/Almonte to get a shot over Rivera & Diaz. But its another thing to say he is going to outpace a proven bat like Nick Swisher.

    ___________________________________________

    Once again, I never said he was gonna outpace Swisher. Point is, Swisher is gone. Stop crying over spilled milk. As good as Swisher could be at times, and ne was very streaky, he also struck out an awful lot and hit into a lot of DPs. But these kids should at least get a chance to see what they can do instead of retreads like Diaz and Rivera. That I agree with

  187. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    “So who are mere fans to question the ninja GM?”

    ninja’s do not get broken ankles.

    cashman has lost his ninja-hood.

  188. Captain Clutch March 6th, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Really bad news…….
    ————

    Lohud Yankees Blog ?@LoHudYankees
    Teixeira expected to miss 8-10 weeks with strained wrist. Four weeks of no activity.

  189. Against All Odds March 6th, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    We are f’ing dead

  190. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Tex was another accident waiting to happen. Now it has happened. Cashman must think he’s snakebit.

  191. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    The issue is whether or not Tex fully healed after 8-10. If he is, then they can probably tread water and then make a move when Granderson and Tex return.

  192. Captain Clutch March 6th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Cano is really the Yanks only power for the 1st 2 months of the season. Everyone knew that the lineup was going to struggle to score runs but it’s going to be really bad.

  193. champ809 March 6th, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Mesa has an identical skillset ( albeit more arm ) and profile as Austing Jackson…how’s he doing?

  194. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    Lohud Yankees Blog ?@LoHudYankees
    Teixeira expected to miss 8-10 weeks with strained wrist. Four weeks of no activity.

    Crap.

  195. Wave Your Hat March 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    “If he is, then they can probably tread water and then make a move when Granderson and Tex return.”

    Tread water? By the time they get back the Yanks will be 10 games out, the way they are playing.

  196. Captain Clutch March 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    Watch Tex not hit until August this year because of wrist issues that linger. He isn’t over the hill yet but his games played have to be reduced because he can’t hold up for 150-60 games every year. It seems like he is starting to break down.

  197. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    ‘Tread water? By the time they get back the Yanks will be 10 games out, the way they are playing.”

    It’s possible, but if CC, Andy, Kuroda are really good, and one of Hughes, Nova, and Phelps are good, I think they can do it.

  198. mick March 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    as stated here it looked bad having to go to NY to examine the juice wonder.

  199. Wave Your Hat March 6th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    “but if CC, Andy, Kuroda are really good, and one of Hughes, Nova, and Phelps are good, I think they can do it.”

    With the defense we’ve been seeing, the pitchers can only be good by striking out 15 a game.

  200. Tackelberry March 6th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    Lohud Yankees Blog ?@LoHudYankees
    Teixeira expected to miss 8-10 weeks with strained wrist. Four weeks of no activity.

    Crap.

    _____________

    OUCH!! That one hurts, though with the wrist we shouldn’t be surprised it was gonna be more than 2 weeks. Gonna be tough to make any kind of trade too, since teams will no doubt smell blood in the water and try to rob the Yanks

  201. blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    attention all….attention…..I have an announcement to make: We are Screwed!

  202. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    River Ave. Blues ?@RiverAveBlues

    Teixeira out 8-10 weeks with strained right wrist
    _______________

    UGHHHHHHH

    Ok so now what?

    Youk to 1st? CoJo’s D has been terrible or i would say let him play 3rd.
    Nix?
    No way they let Nunez play there.

  203. Yanksfanmc76 March 6th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Wow, unfreaking real…Tex out 8-10 weeks, that must be a bad strain. Totally selling those opening day tix…this team is made of porcelain dolls..Might as well trade Cano and get a good return now. We are last years Sox

  204. mick March 6th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Carlos Lee stil available?

  205. tomingeorgia March 6th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Rich,
    If any three of them are very or pretty good, and the other two are average, then we’ll be OK. You’re violating the Eeyore Creed to suggest that might happen, though. Spring is coming!

  206. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Doomed, doomed. we’re all doomed.

    Losing one Hairy Monster was bad enough, but to lose three is insurmountable. Not only that, how long will it take Grandy and Tex to find their swing if they do come back on schedule?

  207. champ809 March 6th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Wow! Chavez would look nice right about now.

    Maybe they switch Youk over to 1st and Dave Adams gets a shot @ 3rd….

  208. blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    I say try to get Mourneu…..then you’ll have a replacement for Hafner when he gets hurt after Tex comes back.

    Short of that….I think I’d put Youk at 1B and Nunez at 3B and pray they hit a lot of fly balls.

  209. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Maybe they switch Youk over to 1st and Dave Adams gets a shot @ 3rd….
    ___

    If only Adams was healthy.
    He hasn’t even seen action in ST yet.

  210. Russell Munson March 6th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Guys who struck out as much as Mesa in the minors have rarely put up much value in the majors. I see no reason to think he’s going to change that.

  211. 4 NYY March 6th, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    8-10 weeks turning into Gardner time of last yr. ?

    I guessed the Yanks would win 89 games this on Trish’s poll. Now ???

    Bronx bunters ? Gonna be a toughy.

  212. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    “You’re violating the Eeyore Creed to suggest that might happen, though. ”

    tom

    Not sure what that is, but there is a difference between how I root for team and how I view the way this team is being constructed.

  213. ac1 March 6th, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Wow! Chavez would look nice right about now.
    ___

    Until he got hurt walking somewhere.
    He is the most frail player there is.

  214. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    “attention all….attention…..I have an announcement to make: We are Screwed!”

    blake-

    i kind of feel a sense of relief because now the yankees can fast forward into “what the hell do we do now?” mode.

    with no injuries , i think they still would have not been good. in a way, this may speed up the process in hal to at at least start wondering about his 189 plan.

    and oh yeah, swisher would be looking really good right about now on the team. he was the first victim of the 189 thing. i called my father today to remind him the yankees were on YES. he asked me what had happened to swisher along with others because he didn’t recognize anyone. it’s hard to explain to someone 90 years old who watched ruth and gehrig and dimaggio at the stadium that hal let swisher go because of money, and that he was going to let granderson go too next year.

    i think there are going to be a lot of yankee fans in for a surprise this summer. everyone out there isn’t following things like people on this the blog do. i think hal may have trouble walking on NYC streets by the trading deadline.

  215. Wave Your Hat March 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    “I say try to get Mourneu…..then you’ll have a replacement for Hafner when he gets hurt after Tex comes back. ”

    Figuring Hafner will stay healthy till Tex gets back is my definition of optimism…

  216. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Tex for 8-10 weeks & Grandy for 8-10 weeks is tough.

    2 players that could be counted on to be above league average missing ~40 games. Thats a lot of games. The AL east was already much too tight. They can’t afford this.

    Can we get Mustelier some time at 1st?

  217. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    What I don’t want to do is to trade a big prospect for Mourneau. That would suck.

  218. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Tex for 8-10 weeks & Grandy for 8-10 weeks is tough.

    2 players that could be counted on to be above league average missing ~40 games. Thats a lot of games. The AL east was already much too tight. They can’t afford this.

    Can we get Mustelier some time at 1st?
    ————–

    The difference is that when Granderson’s fracture heals it heals. Tex’s wrist could nag even after he’s ready to return.

  219. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    blake March 6th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    attention all….attention…..I have an announcement to make: We are Screwed!

    —————

    Never gets old.

  220. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Seriously though, I can’t do this math…

    Spring training + 2 months of the season = Tex finally getting his timing at the plate together

    No spring training + 4 weeks of inactivity + 4-6 weeks of rehab = ……???

    Tex might be hitting by July… just in time to re-injure himself for the duration of the year!

  221. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    morneau is one head bump away from being out of baseball, I wouldn’t trade for him unless it was very cheap.

  222. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Can we get Mustelier some time at 1st?

    ———————–

    Musty needs time somewhere so we can: have some pop, youth, and I can say Musty 100 times a day.

  223. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Betances, Romine, Warren or Claiborne for Morneau. Seems fair to me.

  224. Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    @McCulloughSL

    Cashman said he was told Teixeira’s injury is similar to the one Jose Bautista suffered last year. Which is, um, concerning.

    Ok then why isn’t he having surgery? Because whats going to happen at this rate is he will go 8-10 weeks, not heal, then get surgery and miss the entire season instead of most of it.

  225. bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    Francesa: Yanks must go out and sign “a player.” “You can’t give up the season on March 6th.”

    To my mind, we gave up the season some time back in December.

  226. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Francesa is flying off the deep end talking about giving up what it takes to get Mourneau, and then acts like Sweeny Murti is nuts for disagreeing.

  227. Triple Short of a Cycle March 6th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    What a soft player Tex is

  228. Rich in NJ March 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Really. They are playing games with Tex if the Bautista injury is a comparable, which is typical. He should demand surgery if that is true.

  229. Doreen March 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Don’t want a replay of what happened with Gardner last year – he’s back, he’s not, he’s back, he’s not, he’s back – he’s having surgery. Lost season. MAJOR EXCEPTION being they had replacements, as imperfect as they may have been at times.

    So far the candidates for first and third, aside from Youkilis, are NOT up to the task. So far.

  230. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    @MikeFrancesaNY

    Stop climbin into a hole, Sween! Dis is da Yankees!!!! I will yell foah days about dis. We will shoot foah da moon heah.

  231. Wave Your Hat March 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Seriously, no Granderson and Tex, combined with a (probably) gimpy Jeter and the way this team has been playing so far…not good.

  232. Chip March 6th, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Jerkface March 6th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    @McCulloughSL

    Cashman said he was told Teixeira’s injury is similar to the one Jose Bautista suffered last year. Which is, um, concerning.

    Ok then why isn’t he having surgery? Because whats going to happen at this rate is he will go 8-10 weeks, not heal, then get surgery and miss the entire season instead of most of it.
    —————-

    Not Cashman’s call. They can say that they suggest surgery but end of the day, player can decide if he wants to go that route or give it time to heal on its own.

  233. mick March 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    francesa going into crazy panic wanting morneau for prospects
    good thing he isn’t GM and only mayor of NY sports.

  234. Shame Spencer March 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    :arrow:

  235. FiretheUMPIRE March 6th, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    - Swisher
    - Martin
    - Granderson
    - Teixeira
    - Rodriguez

    Subtractions without a single upgrade.

  236. blake March 6th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    “i kind of feel a sense of relief because now the yankees can fast forward into “what the hell do we do now?” mode.”

    lol

  237. randy l. March 6th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    on a really interesting note, we know granderson and teixeira are out for a significant part of the season. just think if there is even one more injury to a key player ? what’s the chance that doesn’t happen?

    going into the year needing to have everything go right was just a very bad idea.

    hal’s plan may make a worst start this spring than the marty miller spring and the hughes/ kennedy experiment in 2008. the good news is that the yankees often play badly the first 6 weeks of the year.

    things are actually getting kind of humorous. i’m emotionally hedged because i’d love to see cashman fired and you’d have think he’ll be in danger of getting fired if the yankees are really bad.

  238. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    bruceb March 6th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Tex was another accident waiting to happen. Now it has happened. Cashman must think he’s snakebit.
    ///

    This is what happens when you shun Jesus :)

  239. J. Alfred Prufrock March 6th, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    randy,

    Cashman as a sort of domesticated fat cat is bad enough; feral Cashman is exceedingly dangerous – and not in a good way.


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