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Johnson at first; Mustelier in right against Miami

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 08, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Plans changed last night. Given tomorrow’s Mariano Rivera press conference, yesterday’s Derek Jeter doctor visit and today’s Andy Pettitte sim game, I decided Tampa was the place to be. So I drove back after yesterday’s game and I won’t be in Jupiter for today’s game against the Marlins. But here’s the Yankees lineup.

Brett Gardner DH
Eduardo Nunez SS
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Francisco Cervelli C
Jayson Nix 2B
Dan Johnson 1B
Melky Mesa CF
Thomas Neal LF
Ronnier Mustelier RF

RHP Adam Warren

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119 Responses to “Johnson at first; Mustelier in right against Miami”

  1. FiretheUMPIRE March 8th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    Spring training looks more like training wheels.

  2. dayglo March 8th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Cervelli cleanup? How the mighty have fallen

  3. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    “Can’t commit to players with unrealized potential, no matter how promising. Can’t dump established players in fear of missing the playoffs.”

    If that philosophy was in place in the early to mid-90s, Jeter, Bernie, Rivera, Pettitte and Posada would have never been cornerstone players here.

  4. Deal With It March 8th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    How about just bite the bullet now and trade both Granderson and Cano now and get back a haul ?

  5. randy l. March 8th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    “they may not always be low….”

    i can see it now.

    trisha on yankees finishing last in the major leagues next year :

    ” YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICK
    PITCHING WINS”

  6. blake March 8th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    I think the Yankees are breaking the 3 regular rule with this lineup…..no wait

  7. blake March 8th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    hey if we finish with one of the worst 10 records then we can sign free agents without losing a draft pick!.

  8. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Rich,

    They almost weren’t.

    When Tony Fernandez broke his arm the team nearly traded Rivera for Felix Fermin

    When the Rangers didn’t think they could re-sign Pudge he was nearly traded to NY for Posada

    Bernie was only spared because George was suspended.

  9. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    blake March 8th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    hey if we finish with one of the worst 10 records then we can sign free agents without losing a draft pick!.
    —————-

    Come on…that won’t happen.

    Plus the Yankees will get at least 3 compensation picks for Granderson, Cano and Hughes.

  10. blake March 8th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    “Come on…that won’t happen.”

    I don’t think so either…….

  11. Against All Odds March 8th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    brianlopez22 March 8th, 2013 at 9:23 am
    AAO –

    I understand he wants that because then the fans can’t blame him for:
    Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Javy Vazquez (the first time), Jon Lieber, Bobby Abreu, Randy Johnson, etc, etc on him.

    But guess what, when you are the GM, you have to own up for your mistakes.
    And he has MADE MANY!

    Cano, was by accident. Cashman tried to trade him away 3 times, only nobody wanted him because his “work ethic” was questionable, and now he’s a top-5 player.

    Who else was in our system since 1998?
    - Hughes? He’s a great #3, but not the #1 they projected him to be
    - Joba? Don’t get us started
    - Robertson? came out of nowhere
    - Nova? Jury is still out

    Honestly, we gave away Austin Jackson, Phil Coke and IPK for Granderson.
    Is he better than Ajax right now?
    I think IPK could have fetched a better piece from Arizona
    ——————-

    Sorry I took so long to reply I was shoveling the snow.

    As I said before his record even when just taking it from 05/06 is a mixed bag despite him saying they have had a lot of success. It’s maybe decent success at best if you think about it

  12. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Chip

    I know, plus Stick had to lie to George about the trade interest for Bernie, and the NYT once had an article that George was prepared to trade Posada and Mo for David Wells in like ’95 or ’96.

  13. randy l. March 8th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    “I don’t think so either…….”

    which year?

  14. blake March 8th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    this year….now if they are dead set on this budget beyond this year and things go south and they won’t shift gears then of course they could really field some bad teams…..I’m hopeful that won’t happen. Hal isn’t dumb…..he has to know that there is a point where they will lose more money than they save .

  15. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Chip

    I know, plus Stick had to lie to George about the trade interest for Bernie, and the NYT once had an article that George was prepared to trade Posada and Mo for David Wells in like ’95 or ’96.
    —————

    Also they were talking to the Mariners about dealing them Andy for Big Unit before he ended up in Houston.

    The organization has never been comfortable putting their faith in young players. The ironic part about it now is that Cashman is the guy who forever was saying that they need to be able to develop their own solutions internally, yet seems even more unwilling to trust his farm than previous GMs.

  16. Against All Odds March 8th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    They would rather give a vet a chance and watch him fail than give a kid a chance even if struggles. I mean if the kid comes up and has a rough time adjusting what is so scary about that.

  17. Chad Jennings March 8th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    blake March 8th, 2013 at 12:37 pm e
    I think the Yankees are breaking the 3 regular rule with this lineup…..no wait

    Amazingly it’s not even the worst road lineup they’ve used this spring.

  18. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I said it a couple of days ago. With the exception of Jeter if he opts out after this year – I don’t see the Yankees bringing back any of their own free agents over the next couple of years – that means that by 2015 opening day:

    Gardner
    Granderson
    Cano
    Hughes
    Kuroda
    Andy
    Mo
    Logan
    Joba
    Youk
    Hafner
    Ichiro

    will all be gone. That’s a heck of a lot of turnover. If you’re going to stick to $189 then you can’t fill all of that via free agency, especially when the FA market is getting thinner and thinner.

    Maybe they get a Brian McCann and or a Hunter Pence. Maybe, MAYBE, the Rangers and Padres don’t extend Elvis Andrus and Chase Headley and the Yankees gear up for one of them. But the bottom line is that the Yankees are going to have to do a lot of filling from within.

  19. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    And, assuming Derek doesn’t opt out and just plays out the string next year, he could be gone as well by opening day 2015

  20. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    “They would rather give a vet a chance and watch him fail than give a kid a chance even if struggles. I mean if the kid comes up and has a rough time adjusting what is so scary about that.”

    Yet Girardi got credit for the job in did with young players with the Marlins. So if he has those skills, why not use them?

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    randy – you’re right. I always find the silver lining! :)

    But it appears to me that you are so certain that the Yankees are in for a bad fait that I dare you to put your money where your mouth is. Since your business is doing well, it probably won’t hurt you to make a bet with me for, say $200. I’m betting the Yankees make the playoffs. Seeing you’re mentioning last place so much, I’d say you’re certainly betting that they won’t.

    Do we have a bet? Or are you just a bundle of hollow complaining? Which is it?

  22. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Rich,

    The Yankees are all about keeping their options open. If Rivera or Diaz fall on their faces then they can reach down and call up Mustelier. If they let Rivera and Diaz go in favor of Mustelier to open the season and he falls on his face, they have no alternatives.

    Same deal with Stewart and Cervelli over Romine behind the plate.

  23. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    I’m sure Chad would be more than happy to be the middle man. The winner mails Chad the money, and Chad can pass it on.

    :)

  24. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 8th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Hmmm…

  25. Doreen March 8th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    randy l. March 8th, 2013 at 9:47 am
    “Quickly because I really have to run, but at some point the long term contracts had to stop. Signing Nick Swisher would have been a mistake, unless he was willing to take shorter term, more money.”

    doreen-

    long term contracts in baseball are going to end? unless the rest of baseball bans them,i kind of thing the yankees are going to have to sign players to long term contracts.
    personally,i’d like to see swisher on the yankees right now.

    first base wouldn’t be a problem would it.

    ***

    Randy – in a perfect world Swisher would have been back, absolutely. But it’s not a perfect world.

    But, no, long-term contracts are not coming to an end in baseball, though I wish they would. But how long is too long? Depends on the player, and a lot of luck.

    I only meant for the Yankees, however. And long-term contracts on the back end of a career. I thought Swisher was a great player for the Yankees. I am not thrilled he’s not here. I simply don’t understand, though, how the Yankees can be chastised for the long-term contracts they gave to ARod and Tex, even some criticizing them for giving Posada the fifth year, and then lamenting that they didn’t go ahead and sign Swisher to a 5-year deal. If you’re giving everybody on your roster 5 to 8 year contracts, when does the turnover happen? Where is the room for the new players?

    That’s really what I meant. You have to pick and choose who you want to offer those longer terms, and who you’re willing to let go. Up to me? I’d have offered Swisher 3 to 4 years at most.

    Now, then you have extensions. And I read Hal’s interview where he feels that if you reach a contract with someone, well, that’s the contract. And I totally get that and respect it. BUT, if you’ve traded for someone who’s contract you did not negotiate, and you like the player, that should be a situation where a contract extension should be entertained.

    And then you have elite players like Cano, and of course you should try to get him to forego the open market.

    Of course, with Cano, you’re also looking at trying to make him a Yankee for life, so it’s going to be a long contract. But, there should be no one else in that category right now. They kind of have to forget about ARod and that entire situation and not let it affect what they do with every other player going forward.

    But long, long-term contracts need to be on a case by case basis, not the norm.

    I’ve said before that my thinking tends to go all over the map, and at times might appear contradictory.

  26. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Chip

    The flipside is that if the marginal veteran is even passable, the young player doesn’t get an opportunity, and it can reduce the chance that they will have a quality young option down the road, because he never got the ML experience, and then some new option, veteran or otherwise, comes along to block him.

  27. Chip March 8th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Chip

    The flipside is that if the marginal veteran is even passable, the young player doesn’t get an opportunity, and it can reduce the chance that they will have a quality young option down the road, because he never got the ML experience, and then some new option, veteran or otherwise, comes along to block him.
    ———————

    That’s true.

    Like I said a couple of days ago, if the question that the Yankees have about Mustelier is whether or not he could play coming off the bench then making him a regular in Scranton makes no sense to me.

    What they should do with him is what they should have done with Laird, Phillips and Duncan, let him play the role of a reserve player in Scranton so that he gets used to doing it and can do it when he gets to the Bronx.

    End of the day, I think he will outplay Rivera, Johnson and Diaz enough to earn a spot. Whether or not they give him a spot…who knows.

  28. Against All Odds March 8th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    “They would rather give a vet a chance and watch him fail than give a kid a chance even if struggles. I mean if the kid comes up and has a rough time adjusting what is so scary about that.”

    Yet Girardi got credit for the job in did with young players with the Marlins. So if he has those skills, why not use them?

    ——————

    Exactly they brought him in partly because of his age and what he did in FL. They get so afraid of seeing a young player fail yet ride it out with vets way past their expiration date. If the young player struggles you can always send him down and he will be brought back up when he is ready.

  29. Shame Spencer March 8th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    @YankeeSource

    Injury of the Day: David Aardsma #Yankees

    Did anyone else see anything about this…?

  30. Shame Spencer March 8th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Against All Odds March 8th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    “They would rather give a vet a chance and watch him fail than give a kid a chance even if struggles. I mean if the kid comes up and has a rough time adjusting what is so scary about that.”

    Yet Girardi got credit for the job in did with young players with the Marlins. So if he has those skills, why not use them?

    ——————

    Exactly they brought him in partly because of his age and what he did in FL. They get so afraid of seeing a young player fail yet ride it out with vets way past their expiration date. If the young player struggles you can always send him down and he will be brought back up when he is ready.

    ——————

    This is exactly why I think most of Girardi’s decision making is actually the org’s decision making. I don’t like all of Joe’s style but I think he’s just a guy that does what Cash wants.

  31. Zach S March 8th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    I completely missed that they were coming to Jupiter this year. Sooooooooo pissed I missed that. The Yanks never come over here (besides as a event to draw the new stadium), and the one time they do I miss it. Wish I had a do-over for that.

  32. Tackelberry March 8th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Shame Spencer March 8th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    @YankeeSource

    Injury of the Day: David Aardsma #Yankees

    Did anyone else see anything about this…?

    _________________________________

    Apparently its a groin injury. No word on severity of it yet.

  33. Against All Odds March 8th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Shame Spencer March 8th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    Against All Odds March 8th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Rich in NJ March 8th, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    “They would rather give a vet a chance and watch him fail than give a kid a chance even if struggles. I mean if the kid comes up and has a rough time adjusting what is so scary about that.”

    Yet Girardi got credit for the job in did with young players with the Marlins. So if he has those skills, why not use them?

    ——————

    Exactly they brought him in partly because of his age and what he did in FL. They get so afraid of seeing a young player fail yet ride it out with vets way past their expiration date. If the young player struggles you can always send him down and he will be brought back up when he is ready.

    ——————

    This is exactly why I think most of Girardi’s decision making is actually the org’s decision making. I don’t like all of Joe’s style but I think he’s just a guy that does what Cash wants.

    ————–

    That appears to be the case. Biggest mistake Cashman made was letting everyone know just how big of a role he plays in deciding who goes where.

  34. mick March 8th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    At least they are taking a good hard look at Musty, all over the field.
    Might be they take only 2 of the rookies Mesa and 1 of Musty/Almonte.
    If Musty can play any corner, all the better.

  35. mick March 8th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Apparently its a groin injury.
    ================
    apparently sitting and excessively tweeting can weaken the groin.

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