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Sunday morning notes: Mustelier in the mix at third base

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 10, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

On the Yankees spring training roster, Ronnier Mustelier is listed as an outfielder. But it’s no mistake that he’s been getting most of his time lately at third base.

“We’re going to look at him,” manager Joe Girardi said.

The short but offensively potent Cuban has hit in the minor leagues, and he’s hit this spring. Most of the questions about him center on his defense and his lack of experience. When camp opened, the Yankees were looking at him strictly as an outfielder — at least for big league purposes — but Girardi acknowledged that Mustelier’s situation has changed. He’s getting time at third base as a direct connection to the Mark Teixeira injury. The Yankees want to see if he can play third well enough for Kevin Youkilis to move to first.

“I don’t care about my size or the things that people are saying about me,” Mustelier said earlier this spring. “The only thing I care about is that I’m a good player. I can get the job done, and I have a place on this team. All these people are saying that I have no position on the team. It’s not true. I can play the field. I can do a job. I can play the outfield; I can play the infield. If anyone is saying that I have no position on this team, it’s not true.”

The Yankees are going to find out. The general consensus seems to be that Mustelier’s bat is better than his glove, but I’ve also heard people describe him as a passable defender who’s gotten better since coming to the United States. He’s part of a large group of players getting a chance now that Teixeira and Curtis Granderson are going to miss the first month.

“I hink you’ll see a lot of players here (in big league camp) for a long time,” Girardi said.

• Derek Jeter is still on scheduled to DH again tomorrow and he could play the field as early as Wednesday.

• Boone Logan did long toss today, then he went to the bullpen to throw a few pitches off a mound. “It’s early still, so I’m not going to get too excited,” Logan said. “But everything feels good.” Logan said his elbow hasn’t bothered him in the past few days and he’s hoping to throw a full bullpen soon. He still thinks Opening Day is likely.

• CC Sabathia threw a 50-pitch simulated game today. He faced Corban Joseph and Zoilo Almonte, and he said afterward that he hasn’t even thought about his elbow during his past two sim outings. Sabathia is scheduled to make his spring debut on Friday. “I’m working pretty hard and trying to throw all my pitches and make it as game-like as possible,” Sabathia said. “… I felt like I was throwing a little harder today.”

• The upcoming spring rotation
Today: David Phelps
Monday: Hiroki Kuroda
Tuesday: Ivan Nova
Wednesday: Andy Pettitte
Thursday: TBA (looks like it could be Adam Warren or Jose Ramirez)
Friday: CC Sabathia
Saturday: Hiroki Kuroda (home), David Phelps (away)
Sunday: Ivan Nova

• Girardi said Dave Robertson will pitch in a game “shortly.” Robertson, David Aardsma and Phil Hughes are each scheduled to throw a bullpen tomorrow. So is Mariano Rivera.

• Random clubhouse conversation this morning with Matt Tracy. Turns out, my friend Kari’s brother played little league basketball with Tracy years and years ago in St. Louis. So, yes, I had a conversation this morning about Missouri youth sports. That’s the kind of detail you’ll find only here on the LoHud Yankees Blog.

• For whatever it’s worth, which probably isn’t much, Tyler Austin was assigned to the Double-A work group down in minor league camp. Doesn’t mean he’ll open the season in Trenton — Mark Newman has said it’s entirely possible Austin will go back to Tampa — but it does suggest the Yankees haven’t ruled it out.

Today’s second string: C Austin Romine, 1B Luke Murton, 2B none, SS Addison Maruszak, 3B Ronnier Mustelier, LF Ramon Flores, CF Slade Heathcott, RF Zoilo Almonte, DH Dan Johnson

Today’s scheduled relievers: Mark Montgomery, Dellin Betances, Preston Claiborne, Branden Pinder and Josh Spence

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168 Responses to “Sunday morning notes: Mustelier in the mix at third base”

  1. mick March 10th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Musty’s oppo triple was great. In it to win it…

  2. blake March 10th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    “For whatever it’s worth, which probably isn’t much, Tyler Austin was assigned to the Double-A work group down in minor league camp”

    Challenge him….he’s ready

  3. mick March 10th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Good post.

    Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    What more does Ronnier Mustelier need to show the Yankees?
    He’s a Lifetime 300 hitter.
    Like Jeter he can drive The ball to the opposite field.
    He can run-has a stolen base and a triple.
    Has made all the plays in the field.

    The team is hurting for offense. If the Yankees aren’t going to play him, then trade him.
    This 28-year-old doesn’t need to return to the minors.

  4. blake March 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Musty is starting to sound like a no brainer at this point

  5. Ghostwriter March 10th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    I’m vrey happy that Mustelier is getting a serious look at third base. The best possible outcome this spring for the Yanks is to break ST with Mustelier and Mesa and/Almonte on the big league roster, because it will allow the Yanks a chance to fully leverage the opportunities created by the Texeira and Granderson injuries.

  6. ac1 March 10th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Musty and Mesa/almone are both no brainers which is why the Yankees opening day lineup will have Juan Rivera, Matt Diaz and Dan Johnson….

  7. Ghostwriter March 10th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    And I also really liked Musty’s attitude about his defense, arguing that anybody that claiming that he doesn’t have a positition is wrong. Good on him for calling BS–it shows some toughness, IMO.

  8. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Mustelier has done EXACTLY what I wanted him to do. He has forced his way into the conversation. He is forcing a brain trust that loves veterans to look at him as a serious option.

    Let’s face it – a lineup with Youk at first and Mustielier at 3b still isn’t ideal. But it is far superior both offensively and defensively to having Rivera at 1st and Youk at 3b.

    Both Mustelier and Melky Mesa have (to this point) beaten out Juan Rivera for two jobs.

  9. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Mustelier is hitting .375 in ST.

    Guess what Youkilis is hitting?

  10. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    ac1 March 10th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Musty and Mesa/almone are both no brainers which is why the Yankees opening day lineup will have Juan Rivera, Matt Diaz and Dan Johnson….
    —————–

    Cynical but justified.

    Honestly, Dan Johnson hasn’t hit at all – he has more errors than hits this spring – I can’t see him being in the mix at all. Rivera or Diaz will make the club as the 4th OF but at this point I think Mesa and Mustelier have to have the advantage – unless Mustelier goes into a complete funk like the one we saw from Jesus Montero when Cervelli got hurt a couple of years ago.

  11. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Trader -

    Youk doesn’t have a hit yet, but I’m not worried about him any more than I’m worried about Jeter.

    Juan Rivera though should not be a regular player any more.

  12. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Who’s Mustelier?, but it sounds like I’m going to need him given the camera bays and things my Canadian ” wonder ” boy has a consumption propensity for. I swear nodbody got hurt as much in ’85.

  13. jacksquat March 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    He seems very Kirby Puckett -ish.

  14. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Just keep driving the ball into Right Center…he’ll be fine.

  15. Ghostwriter March 10th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    jacksquat March 10th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    He seems very Kirby Puckett -ish.
    ======

    We should be so lucky. I think MUsty is a little bigger than Kirby was; he has about two inches on Puckett.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    If Mustielier cOntinues to hit and field ok yet doesn’t make this parched offense, then they are really nuts. God forbid we should have anyone under 30 with an actual hit tool on this roster.

  17. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/I.....#038;rel=0

    I dug the above up. At the time I was on my way to a summer nightshift in ’85. It was the last play in Buck Martinez’ career.

  18. ac1 March 10th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    I’m not worried about Youk or jeter. Again the Yankees should be starting musty at 3rd, not bringing him in for the 2nd round guys… Rivera should not be playing 1b even as a full in. Just put someone from the minors there or let Youk play a few innings… The fact they have Rivera in the lineup every day and sometimes as first base is troubling…

  19. blake March 10th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Forget that Musty is under 30, can play passable defense in RF or at 3B and has a real reason to play his tail off…..Rivera has experience

  20. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Gardner – LF
    Jeter – SS
    Ichiro – RF
    Cano – 2b
    Youk – 1b
    Hafner – DH
    Mustelier – 3b
    Cervelli – C
    Mesa – CF

    Bench: Stewart, Nix, Rivera, Nunez

  21. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    My guess is the FO believes the Yankees pitching will keep them close until Granderson and Teixeira come back.

    Well that would be short-sided in my humble opinion. We haven’t even seen CC, Pettitte or Hughes yet. The BP leader in appearances and primary lefty- Logan, hasn’t pitched. Rapada is hurt as is Robertson. Aardsma doesn’t look ready. Warren and Marshall were both hit hard in their last appearances.

    The best starter in camp has been Jose Ramirez and he hasn’t pitched above A ball. The first month of the season, the Yankees will need contributions from their entire pitching staff as they’ll be lucky to get 5-6 innings out of their starters in the early going.

  22. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Alfred, you’re not allowed to say anything here given your penguin behaviour last night :)

  23. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Yeah but Blake – Mustelier has something going for him Rivera can’t compete with.

    Mustelier = “Musty”

    What can Girardi call Rivera? Juanie?

  24. Shame Spencer March 10th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    LOL, oh boy.. just read Mushnick’s piece this morning about instant replay. If anyone needs a good laugh, I recommend it.

    The guy is a dinosaur.

  25. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Trader

    No choice but to believe that. As much as Cashman has been annoying me with his do nothing stance, the fact remains that he’s right on one thing – difference makers aren’t available via trade right now.

  26. blake March 10th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    “What can Girardi call Rivera? Juanie?”

    It’s forced but could work….Musty is so easy though that Girardi has to be pushing for him

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Experience at sucking unless we’re going back several thousand years.

  28. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    A lot of people are experiencing “Mustration”.

    It could lead to a peasant uprising and a revolution.

    Do the leaders hear us ?

    :)

  29. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Blake -

    Also, and not sure that this matters as much as the nick name thing, Cashman said earlier that he would need some compelling evidence to see Juan Rivera as a 1st baseman. Struck me as odd because at this point I’m not sure he’s any better in the outfield than he is at first, but anything that keeps Juan from being a major component of this team is alright with me.

  30. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Chip-

    That lineup is the one I’d like to see. Of course the opposing teams starters are going to do everything possible to pitch around Cano.

  31. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Actually, if the Yankees could swing a minor deal with the Phillies as suggested by Cafardo for Mayberry, I would be alright with that. Let him be the 4th OF over Rivera.

    I wouldn’t give up much for him. Maybe someone like Brandon Pinder.

    If the Padres want Heathcott, Austin and Betances for Headley I think you have to do it.

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Pirella is not replacing any infielder. He
    Is horrid defensively – a million times worse than Joseph. He was the
    Extra outs
    Machine down in Trenton.

  33. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Trader –

    Yup they are – so the Yankees need Ichiro and Youk to perform.

  34. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Haven’t seen Pirela play outside of spring training but I don’t see any defensive liability in his game here.

    Will have to take your word for it.

  35. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Juan Rivera was here a few years ago, I’m sorry you have to consider him. Get the kids, anybody else, playing. Colby Rasmus is hurting or else I’d put him in one of the corner spots, insert Gose and make Bautista stand at third due to the fact Brett may never be, ” well “.

  36. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    jmills March 10th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Juan Rivera was here a few years ago, I’m sorry you have to consider him. Get the kids, anybody else, playing. Colby Rasmus is hurting or else I’d put him in one of the corner spots, insert Gose and make Bautista stand at third due to the fact Brett may never be, ” well “.
    ————–

    Juan was never really a good fielder, even before he hurt his knee. But there was a time where he was a very good hitter. That time has passed.

  37. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Chip

    I believe that Mayberry, has poor numbers vs. righties the last 3 years, but he can play first and the corner outfield.

    Just checked BA. 229 in 2012, .236 the last 3 years.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....ayberry-jr

  38. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    I’ve been as much of a “realist” as anybody, but after watching Mo yesterday I’m starting to turn the corner.

    The Yankees have a very good SP staff with depth. They have a very good BP with depth.

    The Yankees have a great 2B, above average SS and CF (Gardner :mad: ), A good to average RF and 1B ( Youk). For 2 months they need to patch together 3B, LF and bench with some promising rookie candidates ( no to washed up veterans).

    They have to hope Cervelli learned something defensively and continues his clutch hitting.

    Finally the X factor— the team has Mo telling them he’s emptying the tank. 24 other players better do the same.

    I’ve moved from realist to hopeful.

  39. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Trader -

    Yeah, his splits aren’t anything to write home about, but at 29 with limited playing time I think there’s still more there.

  40. jacksquat March 10th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Musty is a terrible nickname guys, come on. :)

  41. FiretheUMPIRE March 10th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Is this going to be the deadline where the Yankees finally add a legit long-term bat or is Cashman going to get schooled by all these hungry GM’s and teams willing to gamble and spend? Or is he going to snub us with his snobbery and suggest that any trade is a trade just for the sake of making a trade.

  42. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    “If the Padres want Heathcott, Austin and Betances for Headley I think you have to do it.”

    That’s tough because you might be giving away both your highest ceiling and highest floor players…..Id have to think about that one though prob would do it if I got to keep Mason and Sanchez

  43. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    jacksquat says:
    March 10, 2013 at 11:02 am
    Musty is a terrible nickname guys, come on.

    It’s a Girardism….not meant to be “good”

  44. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    I’ve moved from realist to hopeful.
    =======================
    Good move, more fun…

  45. ac1 March 10th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Austin and heathcott for headley? No thanks…. We don’t need headley bad enough and he had one good year. No way we give up our two top prospects.

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Chip
    You can take that to the bank. He’s legendary down here -
    But not in
    A good wAy. He is merely bad at
    2B, and a force of nature gone wrong at
    SS. If pitchers could talk…. No groundouts is an out with PirellA in the house. Worst Ss I have seen inAa

  47. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    It’s a Girardism….not meant to be “good”
    =======================
    Never heard Girardi call him Musty.
    In fact, I started it about a week ago and blake exclaimed “Musty!” to confirm it.

  48. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Maybe if you change. ” Musty, ” to, ” Misty, ” and sing a Billie Holliday song?

  49. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    ac1 says:
    March 10, 2013 at 11:07 am
    Austin and heathcott for headley? No thanks…. We don’t need headley bad enough and he had one good year. No way we give up our two top prospects.

    He’s had more than one good year…..hes had just one great year. That’s a tough deal but Id probably do it…..Headley is a really good player in his prime and plays a position the yanks are extremely thin at thought the system

  50. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    It’s a Girardism….not meant to be “good”
    =======================
    Never heard Girardi call him Musty.
    In fact, I started it about a week ago and blake exclaimed “Musty!” to confirm it.

    Give it time Micky

  51. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    QFT. Pirela’s fielding is downright painful to watch. Two years of witnessing it, is two years too many.

    It would be nice if we could have drafted an IF who could play on both sides of the ball. Adams is about the only one in the upper minors.

  52. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    you got it blakey…

  53. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    I can see Musty being traded before Opening Day.
    He’s showing value…

  54. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    First disclaimer: I have never seen Headley play.

    But by looking at stats I am not getting the love affair for him. Yes last year he had a good year and he has always had a good OBP, but isn’t anybody wondering why he jumped from 4HR’s two years ago to 31 last year?

    Isn’t this a classic case of buying high (I mean cost :D )?

  55. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    The Yankees have a very good SP staff with depth. They have a very good BP with depth.
    ——————————————-

    On paper they do. Will Hughes recover from a bulging disc? Will CC regain velocity after removal bone chips from his pitching elbow? Is the BP leader in appearances and primary lefty-Boone Logan, going to get thru the season with no more worries about the soreness in his elbow? Clay Rapad and David Robertson, both dealing with soreness in their shoulders.

    Right now we’ve seen starters Nova, Phelps, Kuroda, Marshall, Warren, and Ramirez for the most part, and the most impressive one has been a pitcher from A ball.

    Tar-

    I’m getting closer to hopeful, but still remain skeptical.

  56. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Headly is another great hope the cool move to get.
    How do we know he would withstand the pressure of playing in NY?
    Let’s trade 1/2 the farm and find out…
    …Not.

  57. jacksquat March 10th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Girardi might call him Ronny…

  58. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    YF for what’s Ed reason they’re not
    Sold on Adams. Maybe they think he’s made of
    Glass. I can’t find
    Fault in his game. He gives
    You a
    Yeoman job at
    Third at
    The
    Least. Strange.
    ///

    Jmills -
    Sid
    The Kid and
    Fleury put your
    Boys
    On ice
    I the SO. :)

  59. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    “I’m getting closer to hopeful, but still remain skeptical.”

    I really do get it Trader.

    For me Mariano pushed me out of the darkness. :D

  60. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    If Girardi calls him anything it means he’s on the team.
    This kid is a man and will force himself on the team.

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    For Whatever reAson

  62. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    mick says:
    March 10, 2013 at 11:13 am
    I can see Musty being traded before Opening Day.
    He’s showing value…

    So you see him and Nunez traded before opening day? For who?

  63. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Blake

    Beside last year I really don’t see what all the fuss is about Headly. And in this day and age when a player jumps HR totals like he has, it really sends up the warning signals.

  64. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    jmills-

    Misty not Musty?

    “Play Misty for Me”
    Movie thriller and first time at directing, starring Clint Eastwood!

  65. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    There will be a house revolt if Musty hits 500 and doesn’t make the team.
    Mo has set the bar…emptying the tank!

  66. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    “But by looking at stats I am not getting the love affair for him.”

    Check out his career numbers away from the airport of Petco park

  67. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Alfred, at least we got a point, and who knows, it might be the point that leaves Pittsburgh out in the cold come spring’s playoff sprint :)

  68. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    So you see him and Nunez traded before opening day? For who?
    =================================
    Does it matter?

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    Tar – they need to do sOmerhing to enhance our chances in His final yeAr. For me, I became furious all over again when I saw him up there. Cut and paste job
    Ain’t cutting’ nothing.

  70. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Jmills -’but we got two! :)

  71. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “Beside last year I really don’t see what all the fuss is about Headly”

    Prime age….plus defender at 3B….switch hitter….gets on base….power looks to have arrived ….career .302 hitter away from Petco

  72. mick March 10th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    Mo’s 2 year extension remark was made half in jest.
    If George were still here, h e might get it…

  73. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Yt, Clint is a big jazz fan and I think he made a Charlie Parker film, ” Bird ” ? I’ve seen parts of it. I keep thinking, ” Birdie “, but that’s a great movie with Nicholas Cage and a Peter Gabriel soundtrack.

  74. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Ronnier is lsited at 5’10′ 210.

    Stocky. Not small.

  75. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Headley

    2010 610 PA— 11HR-58 RBI
    2011-439 PA—-4 HR-44 RBI

    2012-604 PA—-31HR -115 RBI !!!!!!!

    Warning, warning, danger Will Robinson!!!

  76. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Tar, it’s the Mo aura; with his belief, anything is possible. ;) But I wouldn’t mind some bat speed help.

    Please tell me our delayed tape replay isn’t actually at 3am???

    Sid played a heckuva game vs. Leafs last night. So glad he is back and healthy.

  77. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    Tar-

    16 homers one year-50 the next in about 30 more at bats. Brady Anderson.
    Then there’s Bret Boone.

    I’m not sold on Headley, but if he puts up good numbers this season and Hughes rebounds and the Yankees have no plans to extend him, send Hughes packing back to his hometown in a trade.

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    The problem with their Pproach is the ballpark. It is absurdly ridiculous to neglect
    Your lineup as they have. At the very least Mustelier needs to be a regular and they need to keep him there even when
    Grandy & tex come back because he’s a better contact bAt. Than either. Melky
    Mesa will blow us away as
    a
    Legit plus-plus defender, but he’ll be a
    Project sorely challenged on making any consistent contact. If he could just raise his game he could run all day and the. His pOwer would be
    Even more
    Viable… Wisahful

  79. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Alfred, we’re not going down the Alice hole and start debating whether 2 is worth more than 1 are we ? :)

  80. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    If Cano walks, good luck having a plus defender at 2B. We have been so spoiled by his underrated D.

  81. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    I wouldn’t give up Austin and Heathcott + for Headley.

    Maybe Flores and Heathcott.

    I consider Slade excellent trade material due to his current hype level and susceptibility to injury.

  82. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Is today’s delayed mlbn broadcast a Jays one, and why isn’t the game then listed on MLB-tv?

  83. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Tar,

    Your just looking at homers and RBIs though….things greatly suppressed by the ball park he plays on and the awfulness of the offense he’s in.

    I wouldn’t trade the farm for Headley….but the deal Chip suggested (Hearhcott, Austin, Betances) Id certainly consider…..Headley would be a big upgrade and instantly be their 2nd best player….and that deal allows then to leek arguably their best two prospects (mason and Sanchez) and all their young pitchers…..

    I really like Slade and Austin…..but that’s a deal Id probably grit my teeth and do because Slade carries a lot of risk and Austin’s offensive ceiling is probably Headley at a less premium position.

  84. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    “Tar, it’s the Mo aura; with his belief, anything is possible. But I wouldn’t mind some bat speed help.”

    As much as I hate the job the FO has done, for Mo ( and Jeet and Andy) I have to hope for this team to surprise us all. And yes reinforcements will be most welcome.

    I so want to be wrong ( or surprised) about a lot of things.

  85. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Yf, if you and Alfred don’t stop penguin discoursing, the both of you are going to need an extended time out during which you both can floss and brush.

  86. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    By this time next year, if all goes well, the Yankees might just have one of the most highly-rated Farm systems in all of Baseball.

    Top 5′ish.

    ;)

  87. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Can someone please tell me what Nuno’s magic is ?

    He seems effective w/o being flashy.

    :)

  88. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    “Your just looking at homers and RBIs though….things greatly suppressed by the ball park he plays on and the awfulness of the offense he’s in.”

    Specifically I am looking at why they jumped so much last year. And the fact that you are buying high on him. But Ido agree with you that the Yankees could use him.

  89. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    I wouldn’t trade 3 farm elites for Headley.

    Pruf, Adams can’t stay healthy (now, the back) or I believe that he’d be in the mix at 3B with his adequate D and advanced bat even with his lack of pop for that position.

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:29 am
    Alfred, we’re not going down the Alice hole and start debating whether 2 is worth more than 1 are we ?
    ///

    Nah, not here. Any way, I also have a Twosome no one can compete with: The Kid and the Russian :)

  91. Yankee Trader March 10th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Have to go. Everyone have a great day.

    Front Office Memo from LoHud:

    “Play Musty For Me.” or ” Love Him or List Him.”

    I’m on the Mustelier bandwagon. :)

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    So, I’m setting my alarm for 3 a.m. I guess. The way they’re running Betances though, I’ll only have to stay awake for one inning :(.

  93. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    “As much as I hate the job the FO has done, for Mo ( and Jeet and Andy) I have to hope for this team to surprise us all”

    Tar, kind of the “where there is a will (and theirs are ironclad), there is a way” with those Three. It’ll be so tough to let go of Mo after this year. (a reason to attend games.) And I am still hurting from the loss of Jorge. Losing our core boys one by one… #heartbreak

  94. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    “I wouldn’t trade 3 farm elites for Headley.”

    I wouldn’t either…. The deal contained 2 :)

  95. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    “Play Musty For Me.”
    ///

    Trader, LMAO! That’s almost as good as Lavarn&Shirl-away.

    Jessica Walters, right? That was a schmaltzy TV movie, but she was bone chilling. Damn good actress.

  96. jacksquat March 10th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:26 am
    Ronnier is lsited at 5’10? 210.

    Stocky. Not small.

    If Mustelier is 5’10″ I’m 6’6″

    (I’m 6’2″)

    I put him at 5’9″ at most, likely 5’8″.

  97. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/K.....#038;rel=0

    Had to give this back as Tar sent it prior and, mark my words, Johnny Depp is Absolutely Fabulous!

  98. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    “Specifically I am looking at why they jumped so much last year. And the fact that you are buying high on him. But Ido agree with you that the Yankees could use him.”

    I guess it depends….I doubt his 2nd half is for real….but he was really good before that …Petco just suppressed him

  99. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Blake, that is about as nasty as Dellin’s CB. :mad:

  100. jacksquat March 10th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    SD wants a lot for Headley, too much for me.

  101. Bronx Jeers March 10th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Ronnier is lsited at 5’10? 210.

    Stocky. Not small.

    ————–

    The consensus is that 5’10″ is a generous figure. Some even say 5’7″ might be a stretch. Doesn’t matter. Everyone says he can hit.

  102. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 11:36 am
    I wouldn’t trade 3 farm elites for Headley.

    Pruf, Adams can’t stay healthy (now, the back) or I believe that he’d be in the mix at 3B with his adequate D and advanced bat even with his lack of pop for that position.
    ///

    No, not for a CIF. As for Adams, they said BEFORE he hurt his back that he needed “more seasoning.” Maybe they know they’re re-signing Cano, & that Adams’ only shot is playing 3B, and that they just want him to get a little more time there, since he didn’t have much, although he proved to me, at least, that he can play a decent enough hot corner. Kid’s 25 years old, hope he gets his shot somewhere, or later this season, here. We can use the bat!!!

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Mustelier has a low center of gravity but is strong. His body sort of reminds me of Melky’s, although Melky has longer legs and is 6 feet, although you wouldn’t know it to look at him. What’s good about both is they have those hitterish hips :).

    Let the Cuban play. I too like his attitude of “FO, I can play”. I’ve often had the impulse to tell the FO to “FO” also, even though they haven’t criticized my game. :)

  104. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Tom

    If your out there, a story I’m sure you can appreciate. Chivalry in WWII.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/09/.....?hpt=hp_c1

    Have a good day everyone.

  105. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Squat-

    I only quoted what was listed. Let’s go measure him.

    At 5’8′ or 5’10′ the Dude seems like he can stick it.

    :)

  106. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Tar, kind of the “where there is a will (and theirs are ironclad), there is a way” with those Three. It’ll be so tough to let go of Mo after this year. (a reason to attend games.) And I am still hurting from the loss of Jorge. Losing our core boys one by one… #heartbreak
    ///

    At least they treated Mo with dignity…unlike Jorge. Losers.

  107. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Got to run.

    Have a good day all.

    Remember. It’s always later than you think.

    ;)

  108. blake March 10th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    yankeefeminista says:
    March 10, 2013 at 11:44 am
    Blake, that is about as nasty as Dellin’s CB.

    Lol

  109. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    MTU, that’s sort of true and not true. It’s definitely a Newtonian view, if you buy into that. But I get your drift…. I do like what you said yesterday better…beauty is forever….and it is, as we are.

  110. Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    “At least they treated Mo with dignity…unlike Jorge. Losers.”

    I have a hard time with that as well. Not to mention Jeter and Andy.

    Have to keep my thought process on the remaining three this year. How great would it be to do it one last time for them.

  111. MTU March 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    JAP-

    Just trying to remind people to go out and have a good time and get done the things they wish for.

    Because our Earthly clock runs out pretty quickly. Earth time really flies.

    But we agree on the notion that beauty is permanent for sure.

    Later.

    :)

  112. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Hey all, total belief checking in! (That surpasses “hopeful”.) :)

    I was listening to EEI after mass and haven’t been listening to sports radio in a while. What are they talking about but Mo. Of course it was all about how the Sux fans will definitely give him a standing O, how they not only respect but like him, how he’s a first-ballot shoe-in, how all stadiums will honor him his last game there, etc. And it all made me start to bawl again.

    If there is one thing I would trade with anyone in the world, it’s their ability to keep a stiff upper lip and not be so affected by anything and everything. It’s really is a pennance and I wish I didn’t own it.

    *******************

    I want to know why Blake doesn’t trust Cafardo. I don’t know enough about him (Cafardo) to know one way or the other, and that’s why I’m asking.

    ******************

    Found this interesting – this was from Cafardo’s column:

    “…some league executives feel that the new-and-improved PED testing will have a drastic effect on the power numbers of players. That feeling has given some owners pause about committing long-term deals until they know how it will all play out. ‘We’re all anxious to see what the result of the testing will be, but we’re anticipating that it will have a significant effect on the numbers, which will impact the game in general,’ said an American League owner. ‘I think a few owners feel the way we do, that we’re going to see noticeable physical changes in players and their stamina in getting through a 162-game schedule.’”

    Which leads me to absolutely know why the owners gave Bud the Worthless their nod of approval for 3 more years. They’ve been as complicit as anyone in knowing that PED use is probably widespread, and they haven’t given a damn about doing anything about it.

    I believe either randy or J Al has been saying this – maybe more have said it – and I’d say you’re absoutely right. Everyone turned their back on the problem. Because they didn’t see it as a problem, they likely saw it as more revenue.

  113. FiretheUMPIRE March 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Third base is such a huge issue with this team. What would it take to sell fans on a legit 3B who can play the position, hit and allow the team to DH Arod over the next 5 years? And keep in mind 189, so salary matters.

    If fans would not be satisfied with Headley in place of Arod, then who?

    I don’t think there’s a third baseman out there I’d want over Headley.

    Do you guys have something else in mind?

    Also, Chips deal falls short. Headley’s worth more than two AA outfielders and Dellin Betances. There’s only one A prospect in that deal and he’s injury prone.

  114. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Tar, the article looks great, will read in its entirety later. Maybe there’s hope that Russians and Canadians can play on the same team while being cheered on by delusional penguin fans :)

  115. FiretheUMPIRE March 10th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    I think it would take: Jose Ramirez, Slade Heathcott, Romine/Nunez (their pick) and Mark Montgomery.

  116. MG March 10th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    I have never posted about the ’189′ issue for 2014 and really could care less whether the Yankees go after every available high priced free agent or not I do care about the Yankees letting home grown (or long term members of the team, like Swish) walk because they won’t pay them market value.

    For the Yankees to possibly let home grown talent like Cano and Hughes walk at the end of the season because they ‘need’ to be under 189M is absolutely ridiculous.

    Memo to Cashman and the Steinbrenners: your fan base doesn’t care about ’189′, they care about a winning team and a tradition of long term stars that goes back almost 100 years. If you are so shortsighted that you don’t see that then you don’t deserve the support of the loyal fan base either.

  117. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Trish, they all had their hands in the cookie jar and a lot of them are still stuck there, awkward smiles and all on a Sunday morning, and I bet the players’ union is right in there telling when testing can’t be done.

  118. MG March 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    And ship out Diaz, Rivera and Johnson with an invitation to come back for Old Timer’s Day in 2018 as well.

    Give Mustelier a shot at 3B and a couple of the kid outfielders a shot replacing Granderson for the next month, the upside on this is too great to pass up.

  119. Bo knows March 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Jeter is one wrong, foot plant from the end of day and people are talking about trading Nunez. Boggles the mind – yep, yep.

  120. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE March 10th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    I think it would take: Jose Ramirez, Slade Heathcott, Romine/Nunez (their pick) and Mark Montgomery.
    ——————–

    An A ball pitcher, an A ball outfielder, either an average catcher or a bad infielder and a relief pitcher without a plus fast ball for 28 year old switch hitting MVP caliber player? Yeah I don’t see the Padres jumping at that deal.

    You’re offering them one legitimate prospect for one of the five best players in the National League.

  121. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Tar March 10th, 2013 at 11:57 am
    “At least they treated Mo with dignity…unlike Jorge. Losers.”

    I have a hard time with that as well. Not to mention Jeter and Andy.

    Have to keep my thought process on the remaining three this year. How great would it be to do it one last time for them.
    ///

    I know, I’m with you on that. Mariano is so true and sincere and strong. He’s the anti-Cashman. It’s THEIR team – not Cashman’s or Hal’s. And it’s OUR team :)

  122. MG March 10th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    The Yankees should be thinking about no trades at this point in time.

    You have a bunch of talented kids that could make an impact in the majors in the next few years and no way of knowing (until they get to Triple A, at least) as to which ones will break through.

    Any trades you make now with the ones with the highest ceilings (which now has to include Ramirez) may come back on backfire on you with enormous consequences, such as the proposed trade of Mo for Felix Fermin in 1995, a trade concocted by George’s famed ‘Tampa Guys’-who knew a lot more about drinking excessively than baseball, unfortunately.

  123. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    The difference between Mo and Jorge is that Posada wasn’t productive at the end of his career. Mo is.

  124. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    MG -

    Chase Headley is 28 and one of the top players in baseball. Prospects are all well and good and I hope for nothing but the best from Austin, Williams, Heathcott, Sanchez and the like, but the odds are very good that of that quartette maybe 2 will make it to the majors as regulars and of those 2 maybe 1 might be an all-star.

  125. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Because our Earthly clock runs out pretty quickly. Earth time really flies.

    But we agree on the notion that beauty is permanent for sure.

    Later.
    ///

    MTU, It’s a heartbreaking life, though full of beauty and humor. But there is great, great sadness. I always say, getting up in the morning makes you a hero; everyone. You get it – always have ;)

  126. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    I can’t believe no one is being suspended (or kicked out) of the WBC for the brawl yesterday. What an effing joke. No shock that Alfredo Aceves was in the middle of it.

  127. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    “Trish, they all had their hands in the cookie jar and a lot of them are still stuck there, awkward smiles and all on a Sunday morning, and I bet the players’ union is right in there telling when testing can’t be done.”

    jmills, I don’t doubt it a bit. Complicity up and down the line. Watching the Selig and Fehr Shuffle in front of Congress let me know where their heads were not. Now I see it’s up and down the line. Oh well. Maybe that knowledge will toughen me up a little.

  128. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    What’s funny about the PED debate is that I was watching MLB Network this morning and there was a commercial for testosterone lotion – no prescription needed.

  129. Bo knows March 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Why is everyone hell bent on stripping the farm system for one player? The future is now and the Devil take tomorrow.

    Strip the farm system of position players and the Yankees tank for the next five years. The only hope right now is that Heathcott and Austin are legit and you won’t know that until some time this year in AA.

    The Yankees have one regular that is without question marks and that is Cano, the rest come with all this baggage, as in injury, age, attitude and so on. That means there are seven positions to be filled, going forward.

  130. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    The difference between Mo and Jorge is that Posada wasn’t productive at the end of his career. Mo is.
    ///

    Well, Mo is a freak of nature, but Posada hit over .400 in the 2011 postseason and if Girardi had moved him up, we might have been playing in the ALCS. He also got the big hit to help us ice the division. As a LHB, he could have done what Ibanez did last year, with a little bit less power, but he’d have hammered the porch enough and hit for a much higher average. He could hit now, especially on this team.

    The point is, though, even if that’s your take, they played a stupid, mean spirited Machiavellian game with a great, proud Yankee who backstopped them to multiple championships. They are crude, political, disloyal and deceitful.

    And I will never let them – or anyone – forget how abominably they treated him. The fans gave him a standing ovation after he “quit” on the team; they knew the score and they knew who was **cking with whom.

  131. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    “What’s funny about the PED debate is that I was watching MLB Network this morning and there was a commercial for testosterone lotion – no prescription needed.”

    Bud probably commissioned that one himself. Scared to death of what’s going to happen to his fiefdom when all of a sudden nobody’s hitting anymore.

  132. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    I’m not giving an opinion as to whether or not the Yankees should get Headley (though I think they should) but if there are fans who want him, they should dismiss the fantasy that you can get him by offering up Adam Warren, Melky Mesa and Eduardo Nunez for him and call it a fair swap.

  133. tomingeorgia March 10th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    Tar,
    Thanks for that link. I was familiar with that story, and, as the author said, there are lots like it I myself have traveled to Vietnam a couple of times, and was able to track down a VC officer who had played cat and mouse with me for several months, with the roles switching from time to time. I knew his name and he knew mine. We caused each other a lot of trouble. Without ever meeting, except once in a little fire fight, we knew each other. An afternoon and evening with him over more than a few Bier 33 “ba mi ba”s is one of my dearest memories. He’s been dead for 10 or 12 years now, but we corresponded until he died. So I know these stories are true.

  134. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    JAP -

    Posada may have hit over .400 in the playoffs but he was awful during the entire season. He hit .235 with no power and didn’t get on base. The fact that he is Jorge Posada and that the Yankees respected him is the only reason he wasn’t benched or released.

    The fact that he was doing absolutely nothing and refused to take lineup demotion like a man, pulling himself from the lineup instead, shows as much about what kind of person he is as anything.

  135. tucker March 10th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Glad Musty may be getting a look. Figured he was a big leaguer from the first time I saw him in AFL two years ago. He can hit. He’s a ball player.

    Now, here’s hoping Girardi summons up his best Deniro and gathers Rivera, Diaz and Johnson in a room and delivers this quote from the Untouchables:

    “You’re here because you got nothin. You got nothing! Nothing! And if you were a man you would have done it now. You don’t got a thing! You punk!”

    http://www.hark.com/clips/fqvk.....ot-nothing

  136. MG March 10th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Chip, I’ve never seen Headley play but from his stats he’s had one good year, what if the Yankees stripped the farm system for him and 3 years from now he was showing ‘signs of decline’ just as so many LoHuddian’s describe Teix?

    Back in the 50′s and 60′s it was rare for a player to continue to excel well into his late 30′s, maybe the current changes in testing are going to bring us back to those days. If so, having young players being productive is far more important that getting individual stars in their prime via long term contracts.

  137. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Tom, read that train story you posted last Saturday – excellent, good luck to the writer. I used to take my kid for picnics between the CP and CN lines outside of Port Hope.( Wouldn’t trade those memories for all the Jays wins in the world ) I have diesel spotter guides and some great brass stuff in HO scale.

  138. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    he fact that he was doing absolutely nothing and refused to take lineup demotion like a man, pulling himself from the lineup instead, shows as much about what kind of person he is as anything.
    ///

    WTF are you talking about. His entire team was 100 percent behind him. He even apologized, and Jeter, the OTHER team leader, said: “He has nothing to apologize for.”

    If you think that Posada’s character is in question, then you don’t know what character is. And he had left-handed power and hit some big, timely homers for the Yankees in 2011.

  139. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    J Al, I know it’s not a popular position to take, but I absolutely agree with Chip on Posada.

    Reading this forum is always a humbling thing because reading the divergence of opinion on any one topic always reminds me that nobody corners the market on truth. We’re all just giving our opinions. I think it’s a good thing to realize. I’m sure we’re all married to our opinions and believe them to be the one reality, but I always know from reading counter opinions that all we are is a reflection of our experiences and the lens through which we look.

  140. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 12:37 pm
    J Al, I know it’s not a popular position to take, but I absolutely agree with Chip on Posada.
    ///

    Why am I not surprised. You wanted him replaced by Francisco Cervelli. Listen, I’m done. You don’t know anything about the Yankees and what the pinstripes mean if you think Jorge Posada is some kind of quitter who lacks character.

    No offense, but you – and Chip – don’t know what you’re talking about.

    I was talking with Tar about it, originally. He gets it; that’s good enough for me.

  141. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    And no one needs a “lens”, or some interpretive, subjective “spin” to see clearly into Posada’s huge heart. Sell it to Hallmark, why don’t you.

  142. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    It doesn’t mean that I didn’t appreciate what Posada was for the Yankees. It just means that I think they should have removed him from the catching position before they finally did, and I think they didn’t do it because he had announced that he was a catcher, period. His same emotion that made him so great was also his downfall, IMO.

  143. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    JAP,

    I don’t expect his best friend (Jeter) or any other Yankee to take issue with what Jorge did. The fact remains that Girardi and Cashman showed him a ton of respect by running him out there every day. He was a hole in the lineup all season long, and if it wasn’t for who he was, he would have been released.

    Ask yourself, if Juan Rivera’s hitting .235 with a .315 OBP and no power, is he playing every day, much less hitting in the middle of the lineup? No chance.

  144. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Trisha –

    Great play earned Jorge the respect he garnered from his teammates and fans and his poor play and inability to stay healthy behind the plate earned him a shift to DH and his continued poor play earned him retirement.

  145. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 10th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    “And no one needs a “lens”, or some interpretive, subjective “spin” to see clearly into Posada’s huge heart. Sell it to Hallmark, why don’t you.”

    J Al, you have the right to feel the way you do. I don’t question it or take it away from you. It’s nothing personal. I wish you could allow others the same latitude when they don’t agree with your opinion. Most others here do that for each other.

    Catch y’all later.

  146. tucker March 10th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Jorge was struggling and perhaps he deserved a demotion in the batting order in 2011. However, he did not deserve the timing of the treatment. He was demoted just before a weekend, nationally-televised game vs. the Red Sox. If they were going to demote him in the lineup, they should have done it on a Tuesday in Toronto or some other lower-profile game … Jorge earned at least that much.

  147. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    I’ll never forget non other than Mariano Rivera playing coy with reporters when he was up for renewal.

    They asked if he would consider signing with another team, and Rivera said: “Maybe…we’ll have to see…” and that is just not Rivera.

    Rivera was PISSED OFF with the way Bernie Williams had just been treated by the Yankees. He was livid, in fact. Otherwise, he never would have said anything of the kind. He’s the same guy who, when asked if he should be paid according to his status said, “I don’t need more money.”

    And Jeter said Posada had “nothing to apologize for.”

    The players know.

  148. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    JAP –

    Jorge couldn’t stay healthy behind the plate. Broken foot, concussion, bad shoulder…he was old and falling apart. They couldn’t keep running him out there and everyone not named Posada knew it.

    That doesn’t mean he wasn’t a great Yankee; he was. But he got old and wasn’t an effective ballplayer at the end of his career.

  149. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    “it shows as much about what kind of person he is as anything.”

    Riiiight. Posada has a huge heart, and wore the Pinstripes gloriously and with every ounce of that heart. Why would anyone who calls him/herself a Yankee fan even try to argue with that? SMH.

  150. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Jeter and Rivera were friends and teammates with Bernie and Posada…of course that’s how they’re going to react. Jeter wouldn’t participate in the recruitment of Jason Giambi because he didn’t want to see his friend (Tino) lose his job.

    That doesn’t mean that what the Yankees did was wrong. Bernie and Posada were not effective ball players (as evidenced by the fact that no one else made even a token attempt to sign them). The manager and general manager have to do what is best for the team, they can’t let their affection for players get in the way.

  151. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Moving on to the present… Is there any live television of our game today? Or just the 3AM delayed tape version?

  152. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    tucker,

    More kangaroo nonsense from the Yankees, and only the densest couldn’t see through it.

    I’ll tell you – the players did and the Yankee fans at the Stadium did. They made their point in his next AB after that fiasco

    Hear them speak:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=14847537

  153. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Hey, Tucker, I like to think we have higher than low profile games in Toronto! :) ……well, maybe not on Tuesdays.

  154. tomingeorgia March 10th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    yankeefem,
    It’s on MLB.com with the Toronto feed.

  155. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    J Al, you have the right to feel the way you do. I don’t question it or take it away from you. It’s nothing personal. I wish you could allow others the same latitude when they don’t agree with your opinion. Most others here do that for each other.

    Catch y’all later.
    ///

    Right Trisha. You “let” me have my opinion? You trolled me for months about Montero, you even became “Just Sayin’” to troll me some more. I’ve forgiven that, but please. You are the person here who tries to control, to a neurotic degree, what is said about the Yankee front office, so please spare me your hypocrisy.

    As for your comments about Posada – sorry, they are clueless. This isn’t about “opinion,” because you agreed with Chip that Posada’s asking out of the lineup said “more about him.”

    That’s not an opinion; that’s a blind bias against a player who played his heart and soul out; a player who Diane Munson, no less, said allowed her to watch baseball again, because Jorge made her think of Thurman, and that he was Thurman like in his passion.

    Posada had all those concussions because he wore himself out for the Yankees, because he left every ounce on the field.

    And no, I’m not going to listen to FO zombies take swipes at him and question his character, of all people’s. I question yours.

  156. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    “it shows as much about what kind of person he is as anything.”

    Riiiight. Posada has a huge heart, and wore the Pinstripes gloriously and with every ounce of that heart. Why would anyone who calls him/herself a Yankee fan even try to argue with that? SMH.
    —————-

    He was all of those things.

    He was also a stubborn SOB who got into fights with pitchers when they disagreed with him; complained in the media whenever the Yankees (for the good of the team) tried to move him to a different position, be it first base or DH, because he was breaking down behind the plate, and pulled himself from a game because Girardi had the gall to drop him in the lineup.

    I’m not the biggest Alex fan, but he didn’t even consider pulling that kind of crap when Torre dropped him to 8 in the lineup against Detroit, nor did he complain once to the press about being pinch hit for by Girardi.

  157. tucker March 10th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Jmills, this year it will be … But in 2011 on a Tuesday, not as much, unless, Geddy Lee happened to throw out the first pitch …

  158. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Chip March 10th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    JAP –

    Jorge couldn’t stay healthy behind the plate. Broken foot, concussion, bad shoulder…he was old and falling apart. They couldn’t keep running him out there and everyone not named Posada knew it.
    ///

    So they had to set him up when he broke down, because they knew all that heart and soul and passion that lined their pockets for so many years because it translated into a warrior on the field, (and a marvel who could also switch-hit for power and average and draw walks) would become enflamed, because, unlike them, he doesn’t have a political bone in his body: they **cked with his pride and they knew he would express that hurt, and then they would try to paint him as a “quitter” – not a “team player,” and all that other BS they shovelled that you and Trisha swallow like provender.

    That you didn’t see through that, and that you blame Posada,…that says volumes.

  159. Chip March 10th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    JAP -

    There is not a single person who has said that Posada wasn’t a great Yankee. He and Bernie both were. Both got old and were not effective at the end of their careers. But both were given more playing time than their effectiveness should have warranted because they were great Yankees and had earned it.

    I don’t even know why I’m bothering to type this since you’re a mule about the topic and see anyone who suggests that Posada wasn’t a good player at the end of his career as having a blind hatred of him…an opinion like that is just foolish and really not worth my time.

  160. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    That’s it, time to get some fresh air.

  161. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    tom, thanks! It wasn’t showing up on the sched on my iphone.

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock March 10th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Why would anyone who calls him/herself a Yankee fan even try to argue with that? SMH.
    ///

    I don’t begin to know.

    Have a great day, all.

  163. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Geddy Lee sits behind home plate and owns a Christy Matheson signed baseball. One time in Houston, Neil Peart was pissed that Lee would be late for a sound check due to an extra inning affair. Meanwhile, lifeson was quiting the band every week, but has wisely settled on a tried and true recipe.

  164. yankeefeminista March 10th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Chip, not to belabor, and it wasn’t my discussion, but you are the one who said that it shows “what kind of person” Posada is. So, you were questioning his character. And he wasn’t selfish. Guess you missed a great career.

  165. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Oh my god, its nice out there today. Can’t wait to see what colours the tulpips from my most generous friend will be.

  166. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Tulpips are like tulips,…only a little bit different; you’ll have to come up and see :)

  167. jmills March 10th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    My neighbour has some kind of band saw going, which means I can play Rush reeeeeeealy loud. Yesterday it was, ” Comfortably Numb,” on repeat. Generally, though, I prefer the Syd Barrett Floyd ( so does Bowie ).

  168. Duh Innings II March 10th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    The Yanks should make Mustelier the April 3B and see what he can do.

    The Yanks play 28 games in April. They should start Mustelier in 27 of ‘em – Youkilis can play a game at 3B – so he gets exactly one-sixth of a season to show what he can do. The guy is only 28 so he can start the first 14 games and rest a game then start the next 13. If he posts a .340 or better OBP with passable defense, the Yanks should leave him there. The only way I leave him there with an OBP under .340 is if he has at least 2 HR and 10 RBI (a 12 HR 60 RBI pace.) Remember he has zero MLB experience and would most likely bat eighth or ninth so you can’t possibly expect him to do better than 2 HR and 10 RBI.

    If he hits better than Hafner by the time Teixiera returns, real simple:

    Release Hafner, start Teixiera at DH then when Teixiera is ready to play 1B, simply move Youkilis to DH so Mustelier can remain at 3B if he’s hitting better than Youkilis or move Youkilis to 3B and Mustelier to DH if Youkilis is hitting better than Mustelier. Or the Yanks could just leave the infield corners as is and Teixiera is a DH for an indefinite amount of time if not the entire season. The last thing the Yanks want to do is disrupt a good thing at 1B or 3B. Youkilis might struggle if he moves from 1B to 3B or DH but hey, Teixiera is the 1B so you have to move Youkilis somewhere and Youkilis knows 1B is not his position so he won’t be upset at being moved to 3B or DH.

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