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“Fair to say” Cervelli has made the team

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 12, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It’s only slightly more surprising than Joe Girardi announcing CC Sabathia will be the Opening Day starter, but this afternoon Joe Girardi said it’s “fair to say” Francisco Cervelli will be heading north with the big league club. After what happened last spring, it wasn’t quite a given.

“He’s worked really hard,” Girardi said. “His blocking the baseball was outstanding today. Coming up and making two throws. That’s something that’s rushed in a sense, because that play happens very fast. And he didn’t try to do too much, put the ball right on the bag, so that’s good. I’ve liked what he’s done.”

Cervelli has been a standout here in camp. He had another hit today, but his .227 average doesn’t mean much. It’s the fact he keeps throwing out base runners, including two more on two attempts today. In each of today’s cases, the pitch was in the dirt and the runner took off based on the developing play. Cervelli had to scramble for the ball, then make an on-the-money throw, and he did it each time.

“Mentally, it’s different because what happened last year,” Cervelli said. “Like I say all the time, the expectations I put a little lower now, but (stay) positive all the time. Positive, I know I can do the job, but just ready for everything.”

Cervelli’s place on the team has seemed relatively secure all spring, and the most notable long shot was eliminated from the competition yesterday when Austin Romine was sent down.

“The other two guys (Cervelli and Chris Stewart), we had in our heads they were probably going to be the guys that caught the most,” Girardi said. “I think he caught in six or seven games, but here’s a kid (Romine), we think he needs to go play every day. I think he’s an everyday catcher. I don’t necessarily want him to play once or twice a week, I think he needs to go play every day, and let’s see what we have.”

For now, the job — or at least part of the job — seems to be Cervelli’s.

“This year I just worry about the pitchers,” Cervelli said. “I worry about myself getting ready for the season. No matter what happens, I just have to be ready. I don’t know, I don’t pay attention to other things.”

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127 Responses to ““Fair to say” Cervelli has made the team”

  1. Hassey March 12th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    stupid dirty catcher

  2. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Starter.

  3. blake March 12th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    He should start….but I still think they will start Stewie

  4. Oscar Madison March 12th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    A new All Star participant this year ? :lol:

  5. Jerkface March 12th, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Stewart has not thrown the ball well at all. He should be the backup. Let Cervelli, a youngish player some upside, take the bulk of the reps.

  6. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    “Racist no….but he is prejudiced against pitcher wins and RBIs”

    yup, no prejudice at all, but much bias towards “clutch” . :)

  7. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    “Let Cervelli, a youngish player some upside, take the bulk of the reps.”

    Yup. Cervelli starts. Stewart backs up.

    D has been better and I think he’s a better hitter too.

  8. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    If Stew starts, the monuments may crumble out of embarrassment.

  9. blake March 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Jerkface says:
    March 12, 2013 at 4:37 pm
    Stewart has not thrown the ball well at all. He should be the backup. Let Cervelli, a youngish player some upside, take the bulk of the reps.

    Pitch framing!

  10. Oscar Madison March 12th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Both Stewie and Cervy fit the budget…….they are in !

  11. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Go, Frankie. I guess that Nick disappeared because he can no longer make Cervelli car jokes.

    re-post
    yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    Shame Spencer March 12th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Listen, as a 100% Italian woman from NEW JERSEY of all awful places I simply cannot take people seriously that try to equate racism against Italians with racism in general. We’re white people. It’s cool. Really.
    __
    You grew up in North Jersey, that’s why. Try going up in the rolling hills of North Central NJ and you’d think differently.

    yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:40 pm
    *growing up

    yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
    And I appreciated Jerkface’s retraction. For once, I agree with Trisha. I found the term offensive, although I realized the intention and baseball context.
    ___

  12. RMS March 12th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    While Cervelli and Stewart have some good points in their game, they both are back-up catchers.

  13. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Sanchez w. J.R. Murphy backing up.

    :)

  14. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    cervelli deserves the job, but wow, have yankee catching standards dropped.

    the yankees used to have an advantage playing a team like baltimore. now just at the catcher position they’re giving away a couple of wins to baltimore.

    not very yankee like

    cervelli is fine if he was the back up.

    the yankee catching starter needs to a better all around player, both on defense and on offense.

    girardi’s persoanal BIAS towards towards weak offensive catchers like himself is really hurting the yankees.

  15. ac1 March 12th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    all of the money being spent on the diaz’s, rivera’s, francisco’s and the possible derrek lee’s could have been put to 1 good player and let the kids fill the other spots where injuries are.

  16. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Pat M,

    I’m not surprised about Koufax. He looks like he could pitch. He was the most dominant pitcher of my life. I still remember his utter domination in the 63 Series. Mickey did homer for our only joy of the Series.

  17. blake March 12th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    RMS says:
    March 12, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    While Cervelli and Stewart have some good points in their game, they both are back-up catchers.

    I actually think if Cervelli can throw and defend then he can hit enough to be league average or close to it

  18. ac1 March 12th, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    girardi’s persoanal BIAS towards towards weak offensive catchers like himself is really hurting the yankees.
    __

    Agreed. I mean, 5 titles with POSADA. Posada was not a whiz behind the plate, but he was good offense. We still won. Crrrrrrazy.

  19. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    MTU, you could take a long long nap, and when you wake up two years from now you may indeed have your wish (mine, as well). :)

  20. blake March 12th, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Not that Cervelli is great or what we expect from a Yankee catcher….but league average at the position is pretty mediocre…..basically defend and hit a little…..there are a hand full of stud catchers and then a whole bunch of guys like Cervelli probably could be

  21. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    Randy-

    I agree with you.

    We should not be giving away that positional advantage.

  22. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Maybe Yanks should sell “pitch framing rules” t-shirts.

  23. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    YF-

    That would be a really long nap.

    I’m more into power napping.

    :)

  24. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Most of the young position players have not had great springs. Murphy is certainly an exception. He has hit the ball hard and looked fine behind the plate. I think he will make it. He is more impressive to my non pitch framing eyes than Romine or the guys in the bigs.

  25. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    The thing is we thought the Yanks were kidding about not bringing in a catcher.

  26. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    “Pitch framing!”

    blake -

    you know how a golfer who has a lousy swing then goes into a nice looking follow through to watch the ball go down the fairway.

    that’s what i think of cervelli’s pitch framing.

    it’s kind of fake.

    the really good pitch framers are so slick it doesn’t look like they’re doing it.

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Oscar – got your prediction. :)

    YF, there you go, exaggerating again. We also both like Pastiche!

    :D

  28. RMS March 12th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    For once, I agree with Trisha. I found the term offensive, although I realized the intention and baseball context.

    ——————————————————————————————-
    I’m an Italian woman and I did not find Jerkface’s remark offensive/racist at all. Shame Spencer was right on the money with her posts.

  29. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    austinmac, JR impressed me in Trenton. He is the best of that lot defensively. He didn’t hit in Trenton, but he had solid AB’s and I have been saying that despite the numbers, he will hit. His ST is a sss and stats are elevated, but the kid can hit.

  30. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Trish and I are also Italian and found them offensive. Again, mine is with the qualifier that I knew there wasn’t any derisive ethnic intent on JF’s part, but the words still stung. It probably depends whether or not you have heard those words uttered at you or someone else, and where you grew up.

  31. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    “I actually think if Cervelli can throw and defend then he can hit enough to be league average or close to it”

    blake-

    i think he can too, but if the yankees were league average at every position they would be middle of the pack in the standings.

    when you go around the positions, the yankees aren’t looking at above league average at very many of them.

    that’s gotta be a problem.

  32. Shame Spencer March 12th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    re-post
    yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    Shame Spencer March 12th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Listen, as a 100% Italian woman from NEW JERSEY of all awful places I simply cannot take people seriously that try to equate racism against Italians with racism in general. We’re white people. It’s cool. Really.
    __
    You grew up in North Jersey, that’s why. Try going up in the rolling hills of North Central NJ and you’d think differently.

    —————-

    Disagree. I simply disagree with the whole argument. There is empirical evidence that shows what racism looks like systematically.. and it does not apply to Italians. I’m not saying I’ve never heard some off color remarks but there is nothing about me being Italian that is stopping me from achieving upward social mobility (the true definition of racism). Referring to anything as ‘dirty’ in terms of sports is not racially motivated as it is an extremely common term used directed towards specific kinds of play/teams/mantras.. but I certainly comment JF for apologizing.

  33. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    As in all things balance is the key.

    A catcher who can play both sides of the ball is what we want.

    There’s no need to settle for just one aspect.

    Either develop one, buy one, or trade for one.

  34. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Trish, and Rhody and “Hallelujah,” and the Yankees, etc…

  35. blake March 12th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    “the really good pitch framers are so slick it doesn’t look like they’re doing it.”

    Sure but I think it’s tough to quantify the value on it….obviously it’s valuable….but Id rather have Cervelli’s better bat than Stewies pitch framing

  36. Jerkface March 12th, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    I appreciate those of you who were able to decipher my original intent, but acting as a walking exception doesn’t change the fact that what i said could be taken negatively. I was just in sports mode, and didn’t stop to think if what I was saying could be taken differently than how I intended it.

  37. Shame Spencer March 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    I don’t wanna be considered a white person either.. believe me lol..

  38. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    As a part Irish-American, I object to use of the word “mick” being used as a handle here!

  39. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    Randy,

    You are right about framing. I don’t pretend to be a catching expert being the non-ignorant type(couldn’t resist) :), but it is more about how you catch the ball, isn’t that correct? Good ones keep their glove inside the zone on both sides.

  40. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    I urge all of you to just try and live up to your species name : “Homo Sapiens”.

    ;)

  41. Jerkface March 12th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Cervelli’s been noticeably improved on the ‘framing’ end of things this spring. He just catches it and holds it steady, haven’t seen any attempts at showmanship by him.

  42. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    Shame Spencer March 12th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    I don’t wanna be considered a white person either.. believe me lol..

    Don’t worry, no one is actually “white”. You’re safe!

  43. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    YF,

    I like the way Murphy looks under control at the plate. So does Austin. I like the balance and short swing. It is much more likely to hit good pitching. Plus, Murphy has some pop.

  44. Tackelberry March 12th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    cervelli deserves the job, but wow, have yankee catching standards dropped.

    the yankees used to have an advantage playing a team like baltimore. now just at the catcher position they’re giving away a couple of wins to baltimore.

    not very yankee like

    cervelli is fine if he was the back up.

    the yankee catching starter needs to a better all around player, both on defense and on offense.

    girardi’s persoanal BIAS towards towards weak offensive catchers like himself is really hurting the yankees.

    ____________________________________________________

    How can you say its hurting them when they haven’t even played a game that counts yet? Makes no sense

  45. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Shame, any term can be a trigger if it has been used in an ethnically derisive context, so who determines whether that term is hurtful or not. People have to be sensitive to each other’s histories and dialogue facilitates that. As for Italians and upward mobility, I think yours is a broad generalization. I am not comparing the Italian struggle to racism, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t prejudice against Italians. I think you are being too textbook without doing any field work or research. So, we disagree.

  46. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    And Shame, you can’t disagree with my experience.

  47. pat March 12th, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    “I guess that Nick disappeared because he can no longer make Cervelli car jokes.”

    I’ve been missing Nick’s snark. Hope all is well with him.

  48. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    austin, I like JR better than Romine behind the plate; think he is more compact, and JR is a more disciplined hitter than Romine. And JR is starting to show some of that pop. I am hoping he breaks out this year in AA, in spite of park factor. O have seen many of his AB’s and I expect him to hit.

  49. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    *I have seen

  50. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    pat, Pat M. has exchanged emails with Nick recently. So, all is good.

  51. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    JF, I as always appreciate your sensitivity.

  52. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Board members, let’s not argue over country of origin please. I like our differences. As my mother used to say, it takes all kinds to make a world.

    And after vacationing in Italy, it sure made me wish I could live about half the year there. Nicest people whom I couldn’t communicate with I ever met. Why is food so much better? Fresher ingredients? Different soil? We don’t have tomatoes like that here.

    Would someone educate me? I do understand I don’t live in the hotspot of Italian cuisine.

  53. pat March 12th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Thanks yankeefeminista.

  54. PacoDooley March 12th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    I know people will disagree with this comment, but his performance this spring makes me wonder if he has had any ‘help’ over the winter. His offence hasn’t looked great and I suppose throwing our runners is perhaps largely technique dependent, but he did make a massive return to form, and so I get a little suspicious.

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    “Trish, and Rhody and “Hallelujah,” and the Yankees, etc…”

    :) You got it my sister. More agreement than disagreement!

  56. blake March 12th, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    “And after vacationing in Italy, it sure made me wish I could live about half the year there. Nicest people whom I couldn’t communicate with I ever met. Why is food so much better? Fresher ingredients? Different soil? We don’t have tomatoes like that here.”

    I think Italy is the place I haven’t been that I most want to go….,I may gain 30 lbs if I go

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    RMS March 12th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    For once, I agree with Trisha. I found the term offensive, although I realized the intention and baseball context.

    ——————————————————————————————-
    I’m an Italian woman and I did not find Jerkface’s remark offensive/racist at all. Shame Spencer was right on the money with her posts.
    ///

    So, you and Shame didn’t find it offensive, therefore it isn’t offensive anyone and no one should find it so?

    That’s a rather narcissistic take, don’t you think?

    I’m half Sicilian, half Tuscan, and I’ve been called a WAP and other assorted names as I was growing up by people who would qualify as Anglo Saxon, so I do understand why “dirty” Italians would strike a nerve, in fact, if someone said this to my face, or worse, to any of my family members or friends, I would probably have to be restrained.

    I also can see that Jerkface made the remark innocently, but the discussion, as I’m receiving it, is about the phrase “dirty Italian,” and yes, I can completely empathize that this could be very hurtful.

    Hey Shame: I, and other Italian classmates, were the targets of ethnocentric epithets when I was a teenager, in an a very upwardly mobile “all white” town; I finally had a throw-down over it.

    I remember when the great soccer player, Salvatore Schillaci, who was from Palermo, was subjected to racial slurs (yes, racial; because this had to do with Southern Italians being darker skinned) during a World Cup.

    So, please, don’t speak for all Italians. And Shame, all “white people” are not necessarily spared being targets of bigotry.

    I would also never be dismissive of someone’s feelings, if they feel their ethnicity, race, gender, whatever, has been slighted.

  58. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    I’m concerned about the bigots who discriminate against offensive catchers.

  59. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Italy is truly amazing. I spent two plus weeks there and missed many, many wonderful places. History, culture, lovely people, beautiful scenery and the food.

    This silly work thing is such an interference.

  60. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Here’s a very fine photographer whose work I like who just happens to be Italian :

    http://www.vieribottazzini.com/-/galleries/venice

    Enjoy.

    :)

  61. G. Love March 12th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Did she just drop the “n” word in here? I don’t care if it’s to make some personal point. There is absolutely no reason for that word to be written in this forum.

    Awful. Just awful. Kids read this forum.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    “I know people will disagree with this comment, but his performance this spring makes me wonder if he has had any ‘help’ over the winter. His offence hasn’t looked great and I suppose throwing our runners is perhaps largely technique dependent, but he did make a massive return to form, and so I get a little suspicious”

    Paco, I’ve gotten to the point where I am questioning just about everyone and everthing having to do with PEDs. So I don’t think it’s outlandish for anyone to wonder about help. All I can say is that I hope not.

  63. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    “Did she just drop the “n” word in here? I don’t care if it’s to make some personal point. There is absolutely no reason for that word to be written in this forum.”

    HFS! That’s messed up.

    What I don’t like is people looking to jump down a person’s throat rather than asking for a clarification first.

  64. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm
    I’m concerned about the bigots who discriminate against offensive catchers.
    ____
    Yes, this too hurts me to the very depth of my soul. One of them is catching King Felix right now.

  65. blake March 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Can we talk about how bad the Yankees lineup is again?

  66. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Skin color is not race either, so again, not racism.

    Many get this wrong.

  67. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    JAP,

    If one would study history, no one would argue significant bigotry was suffered by Italian immigrants. Very shameful. As a Scottish, Finnish and Swedish descendant, such acts were and to the extent they may exist abominable.

    In all honesty, I had to laugh when I started being offended when I heard people make stupid Finn jokes in some parts. Okay, I get it better now.

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    I agree that it may have to do with where you grow up and what you hear as a result of it. I’ve always felt very proud of my heritage and never thought beyond it. One day a guy I was dating (whose mother’s claim to fame was that she traced her heritage back to the Mayflower) decided to tell me that his parents couldn’t stand Italians and called them “n**gers turned inside out.”
    ///

    Trisha,

    Italians do get subjected to this kind of thing more than people realize. I recognize the epithet; it happens to other Mediterranean folks as well.

  69. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    “Yes, this too hurts me to the very depth of my soul. One of them is catching King Felix right now.”

    Whatever my personal preferences, I get that they didn’t want him, but if this “manager” starts Stew, who is a borderline ML, it is really a bridge too far.

  70. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    J Al – absolutely. I know some nonItalians who automatically think that you’re stupid if you’re Italian. I had someone tell me they were surprised when they found out I was Italian because I was so “well spoken”. No joke. And I’m not sure that the intent wasn’t to take a shot.

  71. Tackelberry March 12th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    blake March 12th, 2013 at 5:22 pm
    Can we talk about how bad the Yankees lineup is again?

    __________________________________

    or how good the pitching is?

  72. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    People are overly sensitive, live in the (mostly) past, and help perpetuate this stupid “discussion”. Get over yourselves and your need for some “identity” based on geography of ancestors, dna, skin color or whatever. Most of you without dark skin probably have barely heard a “racial” (misnomer) epithat since the 70′s or at most 80′s (and please don’t give me rare exceptions). Again, get over yourselves and move on, the discussion of this is boring and not intellectual. We should be way past this crap now yet some of you insist on keeping it alive.

  73. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    “or how good the pitching is?”

    :)

  74. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    “but it is more about how you catch the ball, isn’t that correct? Good ones keep their glove inside the zone on both sides.”

    austinmac-

    the goal is obviously to get the umpire to call as many strikes as possible. it’s a not really just taking a ball outside the zone and moving it to the edge of the plate tricking the umpire. it’s more being smooth so the ump gets a good look. i think holding the ball right there on the edge kind of shows up the ump. they don’t really like that.

    also framing isn’t just a sideways thing. how a catcher catches a low pitch is really important. if a catcher flips his glove , its an automatic ball. but the catcher doesn’t want to ride the glove all the way down to the ground without flipping. a lot of catchers do this though. bad habit because some balls are going to get by them.

    i’d say smoothness and quietness back there showing the ball nicely get more strikes called. getting the umpire on your side is as important as framing. how many times have you seen a catcher piss off an umpire. that’s just plain dumb. umpires also are baseball fans. they like a pitcher who makes a good pitch and a good pitch sequence called by the catcher. this will get an umpire on the side of the pitcher and catcher. when an umpire is thinking along with the catcher , and the pitch is right where he was expecting it, he will tend to call it a strike.

    for example when maddox used to expand the strike zone, the umpires had to know the ball was outside, but it was so nicely outside and right where maddox wanted it, umpires would give it to him.

    i agree with blake that all this stuff is hard to measure, almost impossible really.
    cervelli is ok defensively, not bad , but nothing special.

  75. blake March 12th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    “or how good the pitching is?”

    Sure that too

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    In all honesty, I had to laugh when I started being offended when I heard people make stupid Finn jokes in some parts. Okay, I get it better now.
    ///

    Amac, it’s funny; in the National Hockey League, Scandinavians and Finns (who, as I understand it, aren’t technically Scandinavian, but Uralic) are the ones who are subjected to the idiotic bigotry of some of these announcers.

    “The Swedes don’t have the intestinal fortitude” is a good one: Don Cherry made a career of being Canada’s “lovable” bigot, calling Swedes and Finns “chicken-hearted Swede (Finn);” he used to tell a joke that a Swede could go into the corner with a sack of eggs and come out without having any cracked. Did the same thing when it came to the French Canadians.

    The Russians and Czechs also get that treatment, and I remember when Mario Lemieux started pissing people off for daring to be as good as Gretzky, he was “that lazy frog,” who hangs out at the redline like he’s “hailing a cab.”

    Being “white” doesn’t make you immune to bigotry – it’s everywhere. And I think, in a way, it makes you sensitive to other people’s feelings; people who don’t physically resemble you, or maybe think like you.

    I’m glad I experienced those things; they made me strong and they made me stand up for others.

  77. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    The pitching has been very good even without Hughes and Logan. If the offense can be above average, they have a shot. I very much worry it will not be. There are a lot of holes in the line up.

  78. blake March 12th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    @ESPNNYYankees: Mo’s wake-up call to Nova http://t.co/UB5GEJtPMw

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    J Al – hear hear!

    :)

  80. blake March 12th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    I haven’t actually seen Nova pitch but once this spring….the results are good though and I do think a shorter arm action could help him be more consistent in his release point and give him more deception…..ST results are ST results but they have been good and that’s much better than bad and could suggest he’s taking well to an adjustment that could help him

  81. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Nova’s improvement, or lack thereof, is about consistent mechanics. There is no way to determine whether or not that will hold except with the benefit of hindsight.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    I had someone tell me they were surprised when they found out I was Italian because I was so “well spoken”. No joke. And I’m not sure that the intent wasn’t to take a shot.
    //

    Oh, this doesn’t surprise me in the least. My mother years ago (and I do think this has changed immensely) was in the supermarket when my folks bought their house.

    She began chatting with someone who turned out to be a neighbor. When my mother’s background came up, the woman said: “Oh. …The Italians have done very well for themselves….” My mother smiled, and let the woman make a fool of herself. She nearly dropped dead when she found out my father was an attorney.

  83. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    “Did she just drop the “n” word in here? I don’t care if it’s to make some personal point. There is absolutely no reason for that word to be written in this forum.

    Awful. Just awful. Kids read this forum.”

    yeah, i think trisha needs to email chad and have her comment removed.

    kind of ironic that it started with trisha being offended and now actually using an offensive word.

    i think she should have just said “n-word”.

  84. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    Thanks for the article Blake.

    No one carries more weight to a Pitcher than Mo.

    Glad to see Rothschild doing his job.

    Hopefully the mechanical change will make a difference.

    A coach can only do so much. He must have a good pupil.

    I hope Nova is a good pupil.

    He has everything it takes be a good one except for consistent command of his FB.

    If he irons that out he will be a consistent winner.

  85. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    JAP,

    My wife is Jewish. If we could all understand how it is to be subject to being slurred or profiled for your ethnicity and origin, it would probably occur a lot less.

    It must be difficult to be Middle Eastern these days. Think about the Japanese internment.

    I suspect prejudice like many things arises out of some fear. We moved to the Deep South from NYC when I was little. It was quite a scary place. Perhaps being a Yankee was worse than being African-American. Once my sister was asked of she was a Yankee and innocently responded that she was a Dodger.

    Prejudice against players that can’t hit and ownership who won’t pay for those that can is
    encouraged

  86. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    “It must be difficult to be Middle Eastern these days. Think about the Japanese internment.”

    Non-citizen Italians were as well.

    Just sayin’. Really, this has gotten out of hand here, as Randy summed up pretty well.

  87. austinmac March 12th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Good discussion Randy on catching. Stewart must be one charming son of a gun. That’s got to be his value.

  88. G. Love March 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    This place hit a new low today.

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    I’m concerned about the bigots who discriminate against offensive catchers.
    ////

    Crap, me too!

  90. Pat M. March 12th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    No Malice no foul !!! I’m an Irish Italian kid who grew up in an all Jewish neighborhood in Westchester. There were certain slang expressions that was considered acceptable, then of course there were some that crossed the line. Today’s society is far too over the top sensitive and thin skinned. I’m certain Cup, Blake and some of the others heard stuff in clubhouses and lockerrooms that would send some here into cardio arrest…..Different parts of the country 40 years ago was like a different country.. Face for all my scuffles with is more than aware of racism, sexism and is an advocate for civl rights. Doesn’t deserve any heat on this………I need to find a good game tonight to offset the Iona / manhattan debacle from last night

  91. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Once my sister was asked of she was a Yankee and innocently responded that she was a Dodger.
    ///

    LMAO

  92. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    I have spoken up many times in admiration for Jerkface’s stand against bigotry here. Everyone acknowledged that his intent wasn’t there, and that he’s courageous and forward thinking in this regard. But a discussion broke out as a result.

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    I definitely should have said “the n word”. I was quoting what someone else said but shouldn’t have said the word.

    The reason I didn’t pay any attention to the first poster who brought it up is because he has no integrity in my eyes, seeing he’s attempted to use me as his whipping post too many times. So I just chuckle at whatever he posts. And to worry about children reading it when some of the stuff on here is so vile it would make your skin crawl? I definitely chuckled at his “concern” about that too.

    I will ask Chad to remove it.

  94. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    “This place hit a new low today.”

    Yeah. You showed up.

  95. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    “This place hit a new low today.”

    g love-

    i don’t think most people saw it. it was tucked away in a lot of verbiage. when you mentioned it i looked.

    seriously, chad should remove it. i expect he will. how it got through the filter is beyond me.

  96. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    JF, didn’t receive heat; he received props for his sensitivity. I think too many people are getting bent out of shape because they want to see the world as the kind of place it should be. JF is man enough to have the discussion, but maybe others aren’t. That is fine. Trish was offended, and she needed backup because people were trying to erase her experience. That is the only reason I jumped it. But if you can’t handle it; you can’t handle it. Back to baseball.

  97. G. Love March 12th, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Chad should remove you.

    And you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that in a public forum.

  98. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    I’m all for the word being removed.

    But if we’re so sensitive to that awful word, why are we so resistant to the discussion? I have nothing else to say about it, but I don’t like it when people decide how other people should respond to their heritage or whatever being dissed.

  99. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    “I definitely should have said “the n word”. I was quoting what someone else said but shouldn’t have said the word.”

    trisha -

    i know that. just have chad remove it. it clearly wasn’t your intent, you were pointing out it was a racist word. but obviously we can’t use it here.

  100. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    What did Trish post?

  101. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    Oh, OK, yeah she was quoting it, not using it is a racist slur. But agree that it should be removed.

  102. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    You all feel better about yourselves now for being brave and standing up for yourselves and others for something that wasn’t even intended?

  103. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Nothing wrong with it if it’s a quote. Should we burn some books too?

  104. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    I’d like to burn someone’s binder…

  105. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    It was a quote; let’s not demonize Trisha. Just remove it.

  106. yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    I’d like to burn someone’s binder…
    _______
    and someone else’s cell phone…

  107. MTU March 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Rich-

    :)

    Can I help ? Buy the kerosene, or the matches.

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    I’d like to burn someone’s binder…
    ///

    Hey, is he still the manager?

  109. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    “It was a quote; let’s not demonize Trisha. Just remove it.”

    agree.

  110. Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    Yes to all of the above.

  111. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    yankeefeminista March 12th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Rich in NJ March 12th, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    I’d like to burn someone’s binder…
    _______
    and someone else’s cell phone…
    ///

    I was hoping someone would have the sense to take Cashman’s away from him, since he wouldn’t be able to go walking around in an effort to find it.

  112. G. Love March 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    J.AP,

    You know I respect your opinion, but that word shouldn’t be written here. There are ways to couch it that smart people who can keep their emotions in check use.

    I’m 100% Italian and I’ve never even heard someone say that in my lifetime about Italians. It was vile to read and had no place being in a baseball discussion.

    Most of what went on here today had no place being in a baseball discussion.

  113. MG March 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Having just read this thread and the last one, I have one recommendation for all of you who have posted: go watch the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode called ‘Crazee Eyed Killez’ (or something like that) and take a chill pill…

  114. jacksquat March 12th, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    If we are going to remove the quoted n-word, should we remove the use of the word “wop” and my use of the word “mick” also? Those are “racial” slurs also… why didn’t anyone speak up about that?

  115. tomingeorgia March 12th, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    JS,
    You’re right, but I dare not speak.

  116. Pat M. March 12th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    jacksquat……Mark Furman / Johnny Cochran

  117. blake March 12th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    I’m afraid Juan Rivera is hitting his way into Cashman’a heart…..he probably just needed to not go 0fer ST and he hasn’t

  118. Sir Harden Thick March 12th, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    I could see Cano signing with the Blue Jays.

    They need a 2nd baseman.
    Great friends with Melky and Reyes.
    Have a lot of Dominicans: Melky, Reyes, Bautista, Encarcanio to name a few.
    Have a young stud in Lawrie to make a great money.
    Blue Jays have money to spend

  119. blake March 12th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    I could see Cano signing with a lot of teams brni doubt he’d willingly go to Canada unless they really outbid everybody….although there are a few of his DR buddies up there

  120. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    “If we are going to remove the quoted n-word, should we remove the use of the word “wop” and my use of the word “mick” also? Those are “racial” slurs also… why didn’t anyone speak up about that?”

    good idea. have them removed also.

  121. randy l. March 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    if cano went to the orioles the balance of power between the two teams would flip.

    the orioles were really bad at second base last year.

  122. blake March 12th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    @mikeaxisa: Giancarlo Stanton is hitting eighth tonight.

    Joe torre

  123. Jerkface March 12th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    I too agree that Mick should be banned from lohud.

  124. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    G. Love March 12th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    J.AP,

    You know I respect your opinion, but that word shouldn’t be written here. There are ways to couch it that smart people who can keep their emotions in check use.

    I’m 100% Italian and I’ve never even heard someone say that in my lifetime about Italians. It was vile to read and had no place being in a baseball discussion.

    Most of what went on here today had no place being in a baseball discussion.
    ///

    I agree the word must be removed.

    When I quoted her text, I asterisked two letters for that reason. It is a vile, ugly word and should never see the light of day.

    My point was not that the word should sit there, but that the discussion (which in no way reflected on Jerkface’s intent) about bigotry shouldn’t be suppressed. My joining it was seeing some here decide to tell others how they should feel about being targeted by bigotry. I don’t care for that. We talk about so many things here. And I’m 100 percent Italian too, and I have heard that epithet directed at Italians; I’m glad you were spared that. Since I’m 52, I’ve been around a while. These things occurred in the 1960s and ’70s for me, and I think, thankfully, things have changed a great deal. But I think that, although some scoff at “sensitivity” training, etc., we owe a lot of the changes to those types of initiatives. I did not think Jerkface meant any harm, so I was not offended by what he said, especially I know him to be the antithesis of that sort of thing. He was upset Cano was being abused. What I object to is people making light of others’ experiences.

  125. J. Alfred Prufrock March 12th, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    good idea. have them removed also.
    ///

    no need – I spelled it wrong :)

  126. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    For anyone still reading this thread: I immediately emailed Chad and asked him to remove the post. I’m sure he will as soon as he sees the email.

  127. chatalex March 15th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Musty got lost, Musty got lost, Musty got lost
    Somewhere down the lin http://www.chatalex.com/

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