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Notes from the complex: Pettitte, Rivera, Hughes and more

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 18, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It really wasn’t a fair matchup this afternoon.

Sent to the minor league complex for the day, Andy Pettitte and Mariano Rivera faced group of High-A and Low-A hitters from the Blue Jays system.

“I’m sure these guys pulled up and were like, what in the world is going on here?” Pettitte said. “Definitely having to face Mo over there, for sure.”

Rivera was in the Low-A game and threw two innings, a total of 31 pitches. He struck out four, got two groundball outs and pitched around an error by young shortstop Austin Aune. Why two innings?

“I wanted to stretch it out a little bit,” Rivera said. “I was here, so why not? It’s a beautiful day.”

Pettitte went 5.2 innings, allowing two runs on eight hits, no walks and seven strikeouts. I wasn’t keeping track of every pitch, but Pettitte said he threw roughly 80 pitches and will get up to 90-95 next time out.

“In this atmosphere it’s just, get through it and get through it healthy,” Pettitte said. “It was good. I was able to get good work in. To be able to go out there for six pitches is good, to throw the warm-up pitches and all that. That’s just, really, the biggest process.”

• Phil Hughes threw basically two innings of a simulated game. He’s on track to next appear in an actual minor league game, probably on Saturday. The Yankees are clearly keeping him lined up to potentially start on April 7 — the first time the Yankees need a fifth starter — but Larry Rothschild said the team isn’t going to force it. If Hughes isn’t quite ready for that start, he’ll skip it and make his debut five games later. “If he misses a start, he misses a start,” Rothschild said. “The biggest thing is that he’s ready both health-wise and arm strength, stamina and pitch-ability with all his pitches. That’s what’s going to determine that.”

• Hughes was hit in the back by a comebacker, but he laughed it off. Rothschild also dismissed it. “It’s a good lesson,” Rothschild said. “When you go inside, you better get it there. He kind of got spanked because he didn’t. Thank God it didn’t have much impact on him.”

• Cody Eppley also threw a simulated inning. … Bobby Wilson caught Rivera, hit a home run and stuck around to keep getting at-bats long after Rivera left. … Francisco Cervelli caught Pettitte and hit the ball hard all afternoon. His first two at-bats were a double and an RBI single.

• David Adams’ back is getting better. He took at-bats against Hughes in today’s sim game, and Mark Newman said Adams “should” be playing in games this week. He’s still expected to open the season as the Triple-A third baseman.

• I was told today that it’s looking more and more likely that Tyler Austin will open the season in Double-A. He was hit by a pitch in the hand recently, but X-rays were negative, so that doesn’t seem to be much of an issue. He’s still with the Double-A work group and Newman said there’s a good chance Trenton opens with Ramon Flores, Slade Heathcott and Austin in the outfield. That’s an impressive group.

• Dante Bichette Jr., Cito Culver and Angelo Gumbs are all going to open the reason back in Low-A Charleston. There’s a chance Greg Bird will be there with them to create an interesting infield combination.

• Last year’s first-round pick, Ty Hensley, pulled an abdominal muscle and will be out for a couple of weeks. Doesn’t sound serious.

• Ravel Santana isn’t playing right now because of stiffness in his ankle. It’s thes same ankle that he hurt in 2011.

• Minor league work group assignments of guys who have been sent out of big league camp: Dellin Betances (AAA), Matt Daley (AAA), Brett Marshall (AAA), Kelvin Perez (AAA), Ryan Pope (AAA), Chase Whitley (AAA), Austin Romine (AAA), Francisco Arcia (AAA), David Adams (AAA), Luke Murton (AAA), Zoilo Almonte (AAA), Tom Kahnle (AA), Zach Nuding (AA), Mike O’Brien (AA), Jose Ramirez (AA), Nik Turley (AA), Kyle Higashioka (AA), J.R. Murphy (AA), Kyle Roller (AA), Rob Segedin (AA), Tyler Austin (AA), Ramon Flores (AA), Corey Black (HA), Nick Goody (HA), Shane Greene (HA), Bryan Mitchell (HA), Gary Sanchez (HA), Cito Culver (LA), Greg Bird (LA).

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151 Responses to “Notes from the complex: Pettitte, Rivera, Hughes and more”

  1. yankeefeminista March 18th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Good to hear about Austin. That OF is going to be fun to watch on both sides of the ball.

  2. comnsnse March 18th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Very slow progress for some of these draft picks. Culver the Rocky Thompson of the Yankees.

    Bichette must show major improvement this year,dito Murphy, Heathcott,Betances,Segedin if a real prospect should be further along,this is a college guy age wise!

    Who really is a can’t miss prospect right now?

  3. Tackelberry March 18th, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Good to see David Adams finally back in action. THought Gumbs might open the season in Tampa, but I guess they felt he missed too much time last year to move him up. Hopefully, he gets there quickly. Poor Ravel Santanna. Hope that ankle doesn’t become a chronic problem for him. Glad Austin is opening the season in AA.

  4. mick March 18th, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Is Adams ripe to be called up this season, YF?

  5. Bo knows March 18th, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Fem, you people are lucky

    Flores, Heathcott and Austin – The trinity. Drool.

    Hot summer days. Baseball, hot dogs and beer, and watch the talent. Doesn’t get better than that.

  6. RhapsodyInBlue March 18th, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Trenton is going to be a hopping town this summer.

  7. Rich in NJ March 18th, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    I wish the Thunder was playing in YS.

  8. Bronx Zoo March 18th, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    comnsnse March 18th, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Yes, Mr. Jones. :lol:

  9. austinmac March 18th, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    I do think the Trenton team may be more entertaining. Who doesn’t love young, exciting prospects? Let’s hope we have some good players coming up in this next group.

  10. Rich in NJ March 18th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    We can only hope we keep the majority of this group (assuming they aren’t traded for unique talent named Stanton), austinmac.

  11. Duh Innings II March 18th, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....-conflict/

    This is soooo stupid. Who cares if Wed.9/4 is Rosh Hashanah? Not everyone celebrates Rosh Hashanah, some Jews included. The NFL should have the Ravens game on 9/4 if the Os and Chi-Sox won’t budge on 9/5 as they shouldn’t.

    I can’t blame either team or MLB for being hardline on having the 9/5 game at night cuz say they agree to a day game. What if Baltimore, Chicago, or both teams go into extra innings, have a rain delay, or both the night before? If Chicago plays a day game 9/5, loses it badly, and miss the postseason by a game well it would be fair to blame the scheduling change for the miss and who wants that asterisk on a season? Chicago plays a game with the Yanks on 9/4 that’s delayed for an hour then goes to the 15th inning thus ends anywhere between 1 and 3am then they fly to Baltimore an hour after the game and get in maybe four or five hours all because the Ravens couldn’t play the night before because some Jews would be offended? As if pro sports don’t have games on Rosh Hashanah which they do and should as since when was this country governed by religion? It isn’t and shouldn’t be as not everyone is religious as well as celebrating Rosh Hashanah.

  12. Against All Odds March 18th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    Bo knows March 18th, 2013 at 5:11 pm
    It helps but that’s mostly filler. Not saying they are terrible or garbage but that list includes a 28 yr old that never played in the bigs, a middle reliever, a position player that is a liability on defense, back end starters, etc. It shows you how lack luster they have been at developing.
    ————
    What’s one man’s lackluster is another man’s shine. Half glass adage. The Yankee fans were told that Granderson was now, what Ajax would be in a couple of years. I voted a couple of years down the road. Phelps and IPK look pretty similar to me. Nova, before last year looked pretty impressive and so on.

    I’m a big fan of Nunez. Jerked around no end, with every play could put him on the bench, never mind the minors. I remember Nunez and Gardner running riot while Jeter was hurt, a couple of years back.

    But, no gambles, the sure thing, play it safe. The bean counters are watching pennies. Total oxymoron – baseball sells dreams and entertainment, with development an art form and they’re doing spread sheets yearly.

    “Brian, we need a big name to sell tickets, they know Youk, no one knows Mustelier. Go to the meetings Brian but check with us before doing any trades. Bottom line you know”.

    ————————————-

    Those guys you mentioned could help and everyone is pretty high on Phelps. Hopefully he progresses as the yrs go on along with the rest.

    But the Yankees are at a point where they need some of those kids to be stars. If they held off on this plan until 2016 maybe the transition wouldn’t have been as bleak as many believe it will be.

  13. yankeefeminista March 18th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    Mick, sure. But he’s not going to hit with 3B pop or give you multiple positions beyond 2B, 3B, so interesting to see what they do with him.

  14. yankeefeminista March 18th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    I wonder if Culver will improve hitwise, now that he is batting solely from the right side. Hopefully, Ravel doesn’t go through what Adams did.

  15. Jerkface March 18th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    @EricFisherSBJ: NYY: StubHub pickup spot will “lead to an increase in crime, nuisance, and a further diversion of NYPD resources.”

    Cheering for stubhub in this one

  16. Rich in NJ March 18th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    “But the Yankees are at a point where they need some of those kids to be stars.”

    And almost no one is a star overnight or even in a season or two. (there are almost no Trouts).

    That’s why my biggest concern has always been their willingness to endure learning curves in the face of potential declines from the veterans.

  17. Jerkface March 18th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Is Culver giving up switch hitting? He was still switching when he was in major league camp

  18. yankeefeminista March 18th, 2013 at 5:37 pm

    Bo, we had some lean offensive years in Trenton, so the talent we will have there in 2013 will be heaven. I just wish everyone good health.

    Rich, aren’t you in North NJ; can’t you travel to some Trenton games? So much better in person.

  19. Rich in NJ March 18th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    yf

    Yeah, I’ll be there this season.

    The YS part was about TV and media attention.

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    there’s a good chance Trenton opens with Ramon Flores, Slade Heathcott and Austin in the outfield.
    ////

    That’s what I’m talking about!!! :D
    ///

    Not good news on Ravel.

  21. Against All Odds March 18th, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    And almost no one is a star overnight or even in a season or two. (there are almost no Trouts).

    ————————-

    That’s what I’ve been explaining to members on another blog. You can’t bank on these kids especially next season because it takes time to even be a solid major leaguer let alone a star.

  22. Felix Unger March 18th, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    Will the Knicks hang on ?

    Or will the Nets overtake them ?

    Do I hear a gurgling noise from Knick Town ?

  23. yankeefeminista March 18th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    JF, no he is only batting righty as of a week ago. If you were watching, when he came in he in fact batted righty vs a RHP his last MLB ST AB a few days ago.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    yankeefeminista March 18th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    I wonder if Culver will improve hitwise, now that he is batting solely from the right side. Hopefully, Ravel doesn’t go through what Adams did.
    ///

    He did have an odd looking lefthanded swing that day in Brooklyn, but boy did he and Gumbs hum. If he become a reasonable to decent RHB that would be so awesome ’cause glove is good.

    It took Adams a long time to truly recover. Maybe it’s also just a matter of time for Ravel, which he’s got plenty of. So glad to see Adams back at it. Maybe he’ll be in the Bronx before long.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Good to see David Adams finally back in action. THought Gumbs might open the season in Tampa, but I guess they felt he missed too much time last year to move him up.
    ///

    Tampa has a pretty toolsy big-time upside 2B right now in his own right, and they both need time at the position. Maybe if Feliz can stay healthy, he’ll get to where he was headed and then wind up being promoted to Trenton after ASB, and perhaps Gumbs will also then be on the move to Tampa.

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    Rich in NJ March 18th, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    I wish the Thunder was playing in YS.
    ///

    If they don’t screw it up, the better ones should eventually get there. Here’s hoping (they don’t screw it up!).

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    I guess we get Roller at 1B, supposed to be decent glove and thumping RHB. Segedin at 3B? Crap.

    Jo-Ram and the kiddies 15 minutes away :D.

  28. austinmac March 18th, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    I’m glad the team is fighting to preserve police resources rather than for their own financial reasons. I was confused for a second.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Roller bats left, I guess. I don’t remember that from Lakewood, but he didn’t do anything when I saw him. But this obviously makes a huge difference, that he swings a lefty bat. Hopefully, he can be more of a contact guy than Cody.

  30. tbone1570 March 18th, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Trenton does look stacked this year.

  31. Chad Jennings March 18th, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 5:54 pm e
    Good to see David Adams finally back in action. THought Gumbs might open the season in Tampa, but I guess they felt he missed too much time last year to move him up.
    ///

    Tampa has a pretty toolsy big-time upside 2B right now in his own right, and they both need time at the position. Maybe if Feliz can stay healthy, he’ll get to where he was headed and then wind up being promoted to Trenton after ASB, and perhaps Gumbs will also then be on the move to Tampa.

    There’s a solid chance Rob Refsnyder will get significant time at second base in Tampa as well. Feliz is still assigned to the Tampa group, but today he was playing second base for Charleston while Refsnyder was at second base for Tampa. I was told the Yankees still aren’t entirely sure where Refsnyder will open the season, but Tampa isn’t out of the question.

  32. mick March 18th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    Yanks playing hardball with Stubhub. Most tickets are thru UPS not print your own option.
    Even if you can print your own, you can’t use them to get in.
    Have to go across the street to an outlet, which they are now suing, for being under 1500 feet from the stadium, to exchange them for hard tickets, at a fee.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    There’s a solid chance Rob Refsnyder will get significant time at second base in Tampa as well. Feliz is still assigned to the Tampa group, but today he was playing second base for Charleston while Refsnyder was at second base for Tampa. I was told the Yankees still aren’t entirely sure where Refsnyder will open the season, but Tampa isn’t out of the question.
    ///

    Thanks Chad. But if Feliz and Gumbs are at Charleston at the same time, they’re going to have to have them jump around. I know Feliz had some DH time when this happened before. He did have a couple of injuries last season, but I’ll be surprised if they demote him a level. If he’s down there with Gumbs and Andujar and DePaula, assuming they send DP there, going to be a blast to get to see that team in Lakewood come May.

  34. austinmac March 18th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    I had hopes for Adams to make the team before he had back issues. After watching him at the play a few times, I think he can hit and his stats support it. Let’s hope we see him soon.

    I feel sorry for the kids that have to deal with significant injury problems. We’ll never know how many fabulous talents we have lost from injuries. Baseball is a very hard grind. Not all bodies can do it. Just like not all players have the mental stability to deal with the pressure, travel, alone time and all the rest.

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Chad,

    Feliz does look like a potential diamond to me. What’s the club’s take on his future?

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock March 18th, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    I am definitely sold on Adams being able to hit up here.

    Check in later.

  37. blake March 18th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    Upton hit two balls today that probably added up to about 900 feet of homers…..that must be cool to have .

    Glad to hear they are gonna challenge Austin…,he’s ready for it.

    The stubhub thing is a joke….they better play well because the front office is gonna see a major fan revolt if they don’t iMO

  38. blake March 18th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Has the mobile site been down most of the day for anybody else?

  39. austinmac March 18th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    I don’t know the legal validity of the Yankees suit against Stubhub, nut Stubhub is not a mom and pop operation. They can and may well fight.

  40. austinmac March 18th, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Blake,

    It has not. Chad may be out to get you. Or more likely Hal.

  41. blake March 18th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    “It has not. Chad may be out to get you. Or more likely Hal.”

    The Yankees are trying to stop the spread of my propaganda

  42. Rich in NJ March 18th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    It sounds like the Yankees are suing on very narrow, kind of formalistic, grounds:

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......e-stadium/

  43. mick March 18th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Bottom line on Hal.
    If he is thinking he can win and spend less money and realize at least the same profit he has realized before and that he will spend as much as he has in the past, which was the most but won’t be anymore, well if that is his plan then he might have cut his own throat, yes.
    But, if it doesn’t work, and it very well might not, he will have to be prepared to sell this team as the fans will revolt.
    This seems to have been the plan of MLB-to restrict the Yankees money and bring parity to the game. Hal was a proponent and went along with the plan as it was in his line of thinking that they were spending too much money for the results they were getting, that is not winning the WS every year.
    This whole austerity thing was going to happen with or without the new CBA with Hal in charge.
    The die is cast. It could fail as it depends on our youth being served, which doesn’t always work out. If he doesn’t sign Cano this will hurt us for years to come, esp since other FA’s will not come here for paltry sums. Youth alone won’t do it.

  44. Duh Innings II March 18th, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    LOL @ all of you afraid to reply to me.

    Yeah cuz I’ll wreck your stupid argument against me haha.

    Cowards.

  45. ron March 18th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    I would of much rather have traded cano for a stud 3b,and pitching prospect,then signed hamilton,when we could have.
    Yes hamilton is a risk,but look at arod.He is not even playing,and cano will get a 7 year deal,minimum,and after maybe 3 more good years,a decline.
    Hamilton on a 5 year deal is pretty safe,but more importantly,signing hamilton replaces cano’s lost offense,and it is like getting 2 additional,high end first rd draft choices,in addition to our own.
    This is like taking a page out of the rays playbook,and still using our financial resources.I would have also tried to package hughes,or one of nova/phelps for another bat,like headley.

    The indians did something similar by trading choo,then signing swisher,and all of a sudden are mentioned as a possible contending team.
    Maybe several of our prospects make it,but it is highly unlikely,and we all know it.The % are very much against it.Trading cano for 2 prospects,then signing hamilton allows us to rebuild much more quickly,and still compete.Signing 30+ year old players to 8-10 year contracts for 23-30 million a year,and hoping our prospects make it is not a recipe for success,all while not being able to spend much.
    With about 63 million to spend in 2014,we need a lf,cf,3b,ss,c,4 sp,5 bullpen arms,a bench.
    I didn’t count jeter,gardner,phelps,nova,etc..but it is still a daunting task,and this is as the rest of the team is entering declining years. Simply not a winning formula.
    Ichiro will be a weak spot in rf at his age,and he is a huge concern against lh pitching,cc,tex,are getting old,arod,and jeter are older,and arod is a massive concern,jeter is just about finished.
    Cano is it,with our prospects.
    We will have about 4 million each to spend on a lf,cf,3b,ss,4 sp.

    Even our big dollar positions are quickly becoming areas of needs.
    The steroid era i think made us forget this is still a young mans game,so once you get 6-8 good years out of a player,maybe 10,everything after that is a risk.

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