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Youkilis at first, Mustelier at third

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 19, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter SS
Ichiro Suzuki LF
Kevin Youkilis 1B
Travis Hafner DH
Brennan Boesch RF
Chris Stewart C
Ronnier Mustelier 3B
Corban Joseph 2B

RHP Adam Warren

 
 

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39 Responses to “Youkilis at first, Mustelier at third”

  1. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Like that 1b/3b combo.

    good work Joe.

    ;)

  2. Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    youk in the 4 hole. i think we may see him hitting there or third with robbie in the 4 hole alot the first 2 months of this season.

  3. Tackelberry March 19th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Good to see Musty back in there

  4. PacoDooley March 19th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Seeing that Mustelier is the Yankees top signing from Cuba in recent years makes me think of the lost opportunity of all of the Cuban talent that has entered the league in recent years. This is especially sad given the likelihood of an international draft. The Yankees missed an opportunity to flex their financial muscle to put themselves in a strong position for the future.

    Cespedes has been fantastic and I read that Yasiel Puig appears to have major talent (and has an OPS >1.1 this spring). How great would they look in the NYY system right now?

  5. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Dooley-

    The fact that the Yankees passed on guys like that which were only about money w no effect on 189 led me to the hypothesis that Hal wants to sell, or that his scouting dep’t. sucks.

    Chapman was another missed opportunity IMO.

    I still believe that’s where he is ultimately headed despite his protestations to the contrary.

    He lacks the passion for what he is doing. Hope he proves me wrong.

    ;)

  6. blake March 19th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Ys Guy says:
    March 19, 2013 at 8:46 am
    youk in the 4 hole. i think we may see him hitting there or third with robbie in the 4 hole alot the first 2 months of this season.

    He’s gonna have to Id think….they are relying heavily on Youk early this year ….if he doesn’t bounce back and produce then they are in big trouble ….sucks but it’s reality

  7. Tackelberry March 19th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    They did make a strong bid for Soler but the Cubs really blew evryone away with their offer.

  8. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Relying on a 34 yr. old oft-injured player to hold your lineup up is pretty comical.

    Especially when the guy hasn’t hit above .250 for years.

    Oh well. I guess miracles can happen.

    P.S. If they want to give him a chance to do it they’d better keep him at 1st.

    ;)

  9. MaineYankee March 19th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    MTU

    He lacks the passion for what he is doing. Hope he proves me wrong.

    ———————————————————————————————

    Are you saying this because he isn’t as passionate as his father?

    How many owners show the passion you want from Hal?

  10. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Cespedes way better than Soler.

    They ignored him. Rumors were Yankee scouts said he had holes in swing, and therefore wasn’t worth the coin.

    Really ? Sure fooled them last year.

  11. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Maine-

    No. Because I just believe he lacks the passion.

    More from his actions than his words.

    His demeanor also points that way to me.

    Many owners are passionate. He’s not one of them.

    Runs the thing like a green eyeshade mechanic.

    Like I said, if he hangs on longterm I’ll be glad to say I was wrong.

    ;)

  12. MaineYankee March 19th, 2013 at 9:16 am

    If Cepedes was such a sure thing why did all the top teams let Oakland sign him?

  13. MaineYankee March 19th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    MTU

    What owners show the passion you want from Hal?

    You talk about his actions.

    Could it be that they have a plan that may take several years to accomplish.

    I keep seeing things stated about what the FO is doing that is based solely on conjecture.

  14. blake March 19th, 2013 at 9:23 am

    MaineYankee says:
    March 19, 2013 at 9:16 am
    If Cepedes was such a sure thing why did all the top teams let Oakland sign him?

    He wasn’t a sure thing….there were questions about his hit tool because its very difficult to relate Cuban league numbers to the big leagues…..

    The As also have him a pretty big contract for so much uncertainty ……that said…..he can do things physician that few people can and it would have been a nice gamble for a team with as much money as the Yanks have

  15. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Maine-

    Since when do teams deal only in sure things ?

    There are always risks involved. Cespedes represented a relatively small risk for the potential reward IMO.

    And at a position of need for the Yankees.

    And as far as why others didn’t sign him ?

    Maybe they missed the boat too ? Or maybe Oakland has an excellent scouting department ?

    And it was not just Cespedes. The Yankees have passed on others.

    I cited Chapman as another example. How do you let an arm like that, a lefty no less, get away from you ?

    ;)

  16. austinmac March 19th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Cespedes was no sure thing, but a team with large income can take risks. The Yankees seem hesitant to do so and have for several years.

  17. MG March 19th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    It’s always great to read a LoHud blog thread and feel the love and appreciation for the Yankees team and players that is expressed here 24/7.

    Such wonderful, descriptive terms like ‘garbage’ and ‘fungible’ would surely be appreciated by players that work really hard at their craft and are far more frustrated by their failures than any fan could be.

    It just makes my day…

  18. Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    “MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Relying on a 34 yr. old oft-injured player to hold your lineup up is pretty comical.”

    injuries do that to you. oft-injured and older than youk, beltran did the cards pretty solid last year, and ortiz couldnt save the RS but for an old, often injured player he had a great year last year.

    youk can help the yankees alot in the early months.

  19. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Maine-

    Do I really have to enumerate them ?

    OK. I’ll list a few. Mike Illich of the Tigers. The Dodgers group.

    How many do I have to list ? The fact that there may even be 1 is enough for me.

    I want the owner fully committed to winning and not just to the bottom line.

    Not sure I’m seeing that from Hal.

    And as far as conjecture goes I think most of this board is about it. So that’s not really a big criticism.

    I’m not trying to convince you as much as just stating my opinion.

    You’ve stated yours. I just disagree is all.

    ;)

  20. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Y’s-

    I hope he does but with his recent history I wouldn’t want to bet the farm on it.

    The Yankees have been carrying a lot of age-related risk for a while now.

  21. brianlopez22 March 19th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    “Cespedes was no sure thing, but a team with large income can take risks. The Yankees seem hesitant to do so and have for several years.

    That’s because Cashman thinks he is the smartest man in the room, he has missed the boat a lot. Instead of signing Cespedes, Chapman, Soler, and Puig, Cashman signs Puke, Hafner, and any other middle aged, past their prime trash from the heap.

  22. Doreen March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Nothing occurs in a vacuum and the Yankees had just finished paying whatever ridiculous amount of money to Kei Igawa to sit in the minor leagues. I think it’s fair for any team to take a step backwards after having so much money go to waste. In retrospect the scouting was incorrect, but at the time, and in the context of the Daisuke signing, it was a gamble I guess the Yankees thought was worth making.

    So many people killed them for doing that.

    And my feeling is if they had gambled on Cespedes and he turned out not to have a good year (and you can’t necessarily know how he’d have done in NY), the Yankees would have gotten raked over the coals for that, too.

    The people who are dissatisfied tend to be a lot more vocal than those who are either neutral or fine with the way things are. So, blogs and call-ins are going to be more critical than not, though they won’t necessarily be reflective of the fanbase-at-large.

    When I read the comments on this blog, the preponderance of opinion falls squarely on the side of nothing the Yankees do as an entity is ever correct in almost every aspect of the team. It is indeed a wonder that they have continued to be successful.

    I can agree that some of their business decisions are posers right now. But I can’t agree that because there are people who dislike/disagree with those decisions (and others) that those decisions/actions are wrong, or that the Yankees don’t have any valid reason for making those decisions/actions.

  23. Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    in the beginning the lohud was a place for yankee fans to gather, chat and watch games together.

    then the wanna-be GM’s took over.

    now its just unpleasant at all times.

    its just my stubbornness that keeps me coming back, i just don’t want to surrender it to the haters.

  24. Doreen March 19th, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Y’s Guy -

    Good call on Beltran.

    I would love to know what the exact criteria is for “too old” or “too much of an injury risk.”

  25. Cashmoney March 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Could it be that they have a plan that may take several years to accomplish.

    I keep seeing things stated about what the FO is doing that is based solely on conjecture.
    —–
    The plan is spend less money and maintain a championship caliber team. You can do that by developing a strong farm, expanding your scout dept and taking chances on high risks and reward player whose potential if ever realized might garner you an collection of vastly undervalue players which would fit under the model of spending less.

    The Yanks I see currently, lacks the foresight to gamble on talents before the new CBA kicked in, lacks the minor talents to acquire significant pieces via trade to replace the aging core, did not go after marquee FA this year. If there is a some mystical plan in the best interests of NYY baseball, I will say it’s ill conceived. what I see is a owner who knows little baseball and embark on a fiscal plan which is underlings are ill equipped to execute.

  26. MTU March 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    The Mops are gnawing at my heels.

    Catch you all later.

    Have an excellent day.

    :)

  27. brianlopez22 March 19th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    You guys are right!

    Move Adama to the 3 hole, replace him with Cano and slide everyone down 1 slot.
    That is a championship team… YAY!!! Go Yankees!!!
    Cashman and Co., you guys are doing a swell job. Thank you for raising our ticket prices and putting this wonderful product on the field.

    I am so lucky you are the GM of my favorite team! Here, take all my savings this year, you guys deserve it.

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!

  28. Locke March 19th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    It will be great to get Cano back in the lineup he’s been tearing the cover off the ball in the WBC.

    “Cano — batting 15 for 29 (.517) this tournament with two home runs, six RBIs, five runs scored and two doubles — went 1 for 2 with two intentional walks.” – MLB.com article

  29. Cashmoney March 19th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am
    in the beginning the lohud was a place for yankee fans to gather, chat and watch games together.

    then the wanna-be GM’s took over.

    now its just unpleasant at all times.

    its just my stubbornness that keeps me coming back, i just don’t want to surrender it to the haters.
    ——-
    Is there third part to this bible story?

  30. austinmac March 19th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Doreen,

    None of the Yankee fans would be critical if they signed Cespedes and he did well. Who really cares if other envious teams would have been unhappy.

    I believe your observations are completely wrong about we board members. We expressed our opinions before the fact. They went the way of old one year guys. It was stupid then and now.

    Sign good players to reasonable contracts in the market. I don’t think it is excessively critical to ask that.

  31. Tackelberry March 19th, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am
    in the beginning the lohud was a place for yankee fans to gather, chat and watch games together.

    then the wanna-be GM’s took over.

    now its just unpleasant at all times.

    its just my stubbornness that keeps me coming back, i just don’t want to surrender it to the haters.

    ______________________________________________

    Couldn’t agree with you more Y’s Guy. Some fans want it both ways. THey whine when the Yanks don’t give young players a chance, then turn around and whine even louder when they refuse to empty the farm for a Justin Upton. No way Cashman and the FO can win here. Hindsight is also 20-20 here. Now that Austin Jackson is turning into a solid young player, Cashman is geting bashed for making the trade, even thought Granderson has become the home run hitter in YS they hope he would. I keep saying that I wonder how patient those same fans would have been watching Jackson strike out seemingly every other at bat those first 2 years. They do it right now with Melky Mesa

  32. LGY March 19th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    We are looking to Beltran as optimism for Youkilis?

    2011 Beltran: .300 .385 .525

    2012 Youkilis: .236 .346 .425 .

  33. mick March 19th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    I would love to know what the exact criteria is for “too old” or “too much of an injury risk.”
    =================================
    Could be Todd Helton, if he becomes available.
    I heard he was released.
    Or was that from prison?

  34. MaineYankee March 19th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am
    in the beginning the lohud was a place for yankee fans to gather, chat and watch games together.

    then the wanna-be GM’s took over.

    now its just unpleasant at all times.

    its just my stubbornness that keeps me coming back, i just don’t want to surrender it to the haters.
    ———————————————-

    I share this sentiment.

    I find it bothersome if I don’t side with the naysayers about how dumb the FO is that I’m an appologist.

    I don’t agree with everything they do but I don’t share the view that they have no clue.

  35. Against All Odds March 19th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    That’s because Cashman thinks he is the smartest man in the room,

    ————————–

    This times 1 billion

  36. brianlopez22 March 19th, 2013 at 10:03 am


    THey whine when the Yanks don’t give young players a chance, then turn around and whine even louder when they refuse to empty the farm for a Justin Upton. No way Cashman and the FO can win here. Hindsight is also 20-20 here

    I agree with you for MOST fans. But either way, in 15 years, Cashman does not have 2 guys to step in and replace Tex and Granderson? Granderson, they guy who is a free agent after this season? Really? I have said it all along, if we’re going to lose, I would rather lose with our future than looking at a collection of other teams’ past. That’s all.

    Boesch, Puke, Hafner, Ichiro (?) C’mon, really?
    At least Ichiro can hit.

    If they don’t overpay Cano, what’s keeping him here? The idea that the Front Office will do whatever it takes to bring championship baseball to the Bronx?

    Cashman is still playing MLB2k7, while the rest of us have to watch what happens when good players get old and slow.

  37. DONNYBROOK March 19th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    I fail to understand why Cashman is even mentioned on this Blog any longer. He ain’t callin’ the shots. It’s Hal and Levine that dictate what goes down. They allow Cashman to retain his title of GM, solely for the purpose of Publicly catching all the flack. The guys behind the curtain are Hal and Levine.

  38. Against All Odds March 19th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Tackelberry March 19th, 2013 at 9:43 am
    Ys Guy March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 am
    in the beginning the lohud was a place for yankee fans to gather, chat and watch games together.

    then the wanna-be GM’s took over.

    now its just unpleasant at all times.

    its just my stubbornness that keeps me coming back, i just don’t want to surrender it to the haters.

    ______________________________________________

    Couldn’t agree with you more Y’s Guy. Some fans want it both ways. THey whine when the Yanks don’t give young players a chance, then turn around and whine even louder when they refuse to empty the farm for a Justin Upton. No way Cashman and the FO can win here. Hindsight is also 20-20 here. Now that Austin Jackson is turning into a solid young player, Cashman is geting bashed for making the trade, even thought Granderson has become the home run hitter in YS they hope he would. I keep saying that I wonder how patient those same fans would have been watching Jackson strike out seemingly every other at bat those first 2 years. They do it right now with Melky Mesa

    ——————————

    See but a part of that is on the Yankees. They have conditioned their fans to be in constant win now mode.

  39. MaineYankee March 19th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    :arrow:


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