Video: Derek Jeter works out for first time since cortisone shot
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I’m heading over to the minor league complex to watch Phil Hughes pitch. Since I’m not going to be in Fort Myers and won’t be able to provide any updates from down there, it seems silly to have a game post. If you’re following the game online, feel free to throw some updates in the comments of this post. I’m sure everyone will appreciate it. I’ll be back later with some updates from the complex on Hughes, Hiroki Kuroda and Travis Hafner.
For now, I added a video of Derek Jeter working out today, along with some audio of Jeter discussing his workout and his plans going forward.
Geez, not even the beat writers going to the away game today…
If anyone else gets hurt I’m canceling the season.
Just one thing after the next.
Got to run. Have a good one All.
Catch you later.
Thats true, woops, but I read that Legends expects 70 million annual from the venture. So not as much as I thought when considering the lease. ~15 to 20 million in profit.
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Spoiler alert:
This will be the biggest tourist trap in history.
Great, no coverage of Nova at all.
MLB baseball suing the miami clinic
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;mlb.html
Jeter is annoying me with his “I wanna play Opening Day” crap.
It’s not about playing Opening Day, Derek, it’s about playing as many games as possible in what will probably be your last season with the Yanks if you insist on two or more years.
JF – Thanks for the info on the reset from the last CBA. So my understanding is that even if the Yankees slashed payroll 50%, under the old CBA they’d still be on the hook for revenue sharing…?
Under the old CBA if the Yankees went under the luxury tax threshold they would of course not pay any luxury tax.
jacksquat March 22nd, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Under the old CBA if the Yankees went under the luxury tax threshold they would of course not pay any luxury tax.
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Ugh I worded that weird: when they went back up above the threshold they’d be on the hook for the % they were taxed previously…?
JF – Thanks for the info on the reset from the last CBA. So my understanding is that even if the Yankees slashed payroll 50%, under the old CBA they’d still be on the hook for revenue sharing…?
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Luxury tax and revenue sharing are different.
Under any CBA, if they were under the LT they’d not pay any tax, but only in the new CBA do rates get reset. Every team pays or receives revenue sharing.
The team is still on the hook for revenue sharing in this CBA. Its just that certain teams are going to be forfeiting their share, and if you’re under the LT threshold you get it back. If not it goes to the poor teams. Its basically 35% of 1 years worth of revenue sharing if they are under the LT threshold for 2014 and 2015.
From El Duque over at ” It Is High! It Is Far! It Is….caught ”
Open Letter To Hal Steinbrenner: May We Start Calling You “Isiah”?
http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....ay-we.html
@LoHudYankees: Gary Sanchez is catching Hughes today. #yankees
Garret Jones would be nice, but the cost might be prohibitive. I read where they asked the Mariners for Walker.
@LoHudYankees: Gary Sanchez is catching Hughes today. #yankees
A forshadow to 2015?
“Gary Sanchez is catching Hughes today. #yankees”
No TV.
And Twins radio for Nova.
I doubt Hughes is here after this year.
This is the old CBA:
The Competitive Balance Tax rates shall be 22.5%, 30% and
40%, as provided below.
(a) The Competitive Balance Tax rate applicable in the 2007
Contract Year (“Initial Tax Rate”) shall be 40% for those Clubs
that had an Actual Club Payroll above the Tax Threshold in the
2006 Contract Year and 22.5% for all other Clubs.
(b) A Club shall be subject to a Competitive Balance Tax rate
one level higher than the Competitive Balance Tax rate applica-ble to it in the previous Contract Year for each consecutive Con-tract Year in which its Actual Club Payroll is above the Tax
Threshold; provided, however, that a Club with an Actual Club
Payroll over the Tax Threshold may not be subject to a Compet-itive Balance Tax rate above 40%.
(c) A Club with an Actual Club Payroll below the Tax Thresh-old is subject, during the following Contract Year, to a Competi-tive Balance Tax rate that is one level lower; provided, however,
that a Club subject to a 30% Competitive Balance Tax rate in the
previous Contract Year shall again be subject to a 30% Competi-tive Balance Tax rate in the Contract Year following a single Con-tract Year in which its Actual Club Payroll was below the Tax
Threshold and shall be subject to a 22.5% Competitive Balance
Tax rate in the Contract Year following two (or more) consecu-tive Contract Years in which its Actual Club Payroll was below
the Tax Threshold. A Club with an Actual Club Payroll over the
Tax Threshold shall always be subject to at least a 22.5% Com-petitive Balance Tax rate.
The possible Competitive Balance Tax rate progressions for
Clubs with a 40% and a 22.5% Initial Tax Rate are set forth in
Attachment 27.
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They changed the CBA tax rate from a soft stepping down to a hard reset.
Jerkface -
So to me, all the reasons for the Yankees doing this is there in a nutshell. I’ve been focusing on the LT, but the revenue sharing is also something they have HATED HATED HATED paying out. So it makes sense to me that they’d like a shot to get their money back if they can.
So will they be cutting their nose and spiting their face?
Are they actually okay with taking a chance on losing attendance and other sources of revenue for a year or two if people really do stay away? Have they figured out a threshold at which they would rethink this plan (aside from the team not winning, I mean a loss threshold)? How far do ratings have to drop on YES? (Do they track ratings throughout a game, or just who tunes in at the start, or how many tuned in at the start versus how many are there still watching at the end of the game?)
The team on the field can still win, I believe. I do not think they will be in last place because their pitching is too good.
I am not happy with Hafner so far – he’s really not shown much, but maybe he just takes longer to get going, as they say power hitters do.
DanBarbarisi Official word on Brennan Boesch lineup scratch is left rib cage stiffness. No word on whether its serious or not.
Go, Robi. Our only real player left. Getting a nice hand from the crowd as per TIBN.
@LoHudYankees: Gary Sanchez is catching Hughes today. #yankees
A forshadow to 2015?
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You mean when Hughes is pitching for another team and Sanchez is traded to that team for for Hughes’ replacement?
Jeers, QFT.
You mean when Hughes is pitching for another team and Sanchez is traded to that team for for Hughes’ replacement?
Hughes possibly, but probably not Sanchez
JF – THANK you!! I’d been trying to find the old CBA to compare but I couldn’t focus on my google searches with all these roach battles taking place!
bizofbaseball has the old CBAs!
You mean when Hughes is pitching for another team and Sanchez is traded to that team for for Hughes’ replacement?
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Sanchez for Matt Garza…..Theo signs Hughes.
is this game Hughes is pitching a real game? It’s not on gameday
I wish we could get our hands on their YES revenue… we already know about that $300+ million over, what was it? 20-25 years?, but we don’t know what the revenue has been since it’s inception right?
its*
Dangit.
Twins radio guys making fun of the Yankees and Chris Stewart.
“I’m sure you always dreamed of announcing Chris Stewart at a grapefruit league game.”
“With the Yankees, you think: Berra, Howard, Dickey, Posada, Chris Stewart.”
I wish we could get our hands on their YES revenue… we already know about that $300+ million over, what was it? 20-25 years?, but we don’t know what the revenue has been since it’s inception right?
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Thats not their revenues. YES has paid the Yankees around 70-80 million a year for the ‘rights’ to broadcast the Yankees. Which is a discount. They end up having around 300-400+ million in revenues. With the FOX Deal, they re-upped their broadcast agreement for 25 years with escalating annual payments to the Yankees that will be 300 million at the end of it.
Jerkface March 22nd, 2013 at 1:16 pm
bizofbaseball has the old CBAs!
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Thanks JF!
blake – I could see Grandy being a good fit in Chi-town. I know they already have some inflated contracts but he’s a guy almost any fan base can root for and they might want a power bat in their OF.
blake, Hughes’ is a MiLB game.
JF, Chris Stewart is a defensive Juggernaut, Twins Announcer have failed to see the light! “
JF – My bad, so it’s YES’ revenue and they just pay the Yankees. Is that right?
I’m gonna start up my own version of randy’s crazy comment tracker just to keep this info handy since I always forget and repeatedly ask you lol.
Nova retired the Twins in the first on three pitches. True story
HR Morneau.
Hughes’ game is a Class A game, so I assume no Norris vids.
Cashman has masterfully assembled a team that certainly will win games, I have come to that definitive conclusion.
Back to back, belly to belly. Oops.
Back to back HRs given up by Nova :\
And lead off the second with a three pitch (backwards) K…6 pitches, 6 strikes, 4 outs lol.
Jerkface March 22nd, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Twins radio guys making fun of the Yankees and Chris Stewart.
“I’m sure you always dreamed of announcing Chris Stewart at a grapefruit league game.”
“With the Yankees, you think: Berra, Howard, Dickey, Posada, Chris Stewart.”
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Crap.
Cashman & Hal are the Anti-Yankees.
Omg…I jinxed him!! Smh
Too bad we can’t actually see Nova.
Back to back HRs given up by Nova
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Who does Nova think he is, Hughes?
Gee, maybe our prototypical Yankee juggernaut catchers can get the runs back. Oh, wait… #pitchframingbaby!
It’d be nice if these announcers would describe some of the pitches.
Man, I can’t even be like ‘how does Nova look, guys?’ because no one knows!
What are they airing on YES right now? Do they not air these games because of cameras in the stadiums or something?
JF – My bad, so it’s YES’ revenue and they just pay the Yankees. Is that right?
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YES makes its own revenues from advertising, subscriptions, and whatever. They pay the yankees for the rights to broadcast the Yankees. This is a sweetheart deal because YES and the Yankees are owned by the same company (with partners) and they want to maximize profits. This is why Legends does the concessions at NYS as well.
So you have:
Yankees Revenues (Gate, TV deal [80 million, increasing], MLBAM movie, MLB TV deal money [which is going to double in 2014 an extra 25 million for the national tv], merchandise share, stadium store merchandise, less revenue sharing [the yankees pay 25-27% of revenue sharing applicable money to the rest of baseball) – This is around 400+ million a year
YES Network – 300-400+ million a year, some of this is sent over to the Yankees above
Legends Hospitality – Runs the NYS and Dallas Cowboys concessions and other things
This is why the Yankees are the richest team in baseball. They also got a free 400 million in the Fox News YES deal.
@DannyKnoblerCBS
People talked about top players skipping the WBC, but much bigger issue was many teams didn’t want players in it. http://cbsprt.co/163EEUr
Knobler.. stating the obvious.
Cashmoney March 22nd, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Cashman has masterfully assembled a team that certainly will
win games,save runs I have come to that definitive conclusion.___
Fixed
“blake, Hughes’ is a MiLB game.”
ah
Little do they know: Cervelli was wearing No. 3 at AAA….
YF, what we don’t know is that Chris Stewart framing skills have breached beyond the 11th dimension, mere mortal eyes can not discern that, nor are there any statistical tools advance enough to validate it.
Memo to False Melky: you ain’t makin’ the team off your bat
Shame, Yankees are too cheap to send a YES traveling crew. #austerityFTW!
Appropriate that we aren’t wearing the pinstripes. Maybe we have retired them until we are the Bronx Bombers again??
@pier13
“Your body can do anything, it’s just your brain you have to convince.” #attacktheday
Slade retweeted the above. Slade needs to simmer down!!
Cashmoney March 22nd, 2013 at 1:36 pm
YF, what we don’t know is that Chris Stewart framing skills have breached beyond the 11th dimension, mere mortal eyes can not discern that, nor are there any statistical tools advance enough to validate it.
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As I understand it, he reached that dimension/level of pitch framing by gazing into, and being hypnotized by, Cervelli’s eyes.
That’s why they both have to make the team.
Nova not able to locate the big breaking ball saith the Twins announcers. What about the fastball, dudes?
yankeehotelfoxtrot March 22nd, 2013 at 1:31 pm
And lead off the second with a three pitch (backwards) K…6 pitches, 6 strikes, 4 outs lol.
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You are watching on Gameday, it is not accurate, displays pitches like that every game for every batter.
@dylanohernandez
Magic Johnson said he will not push for Yasiel Puig to be included on opening day roster. Will stay out of baseball decisions.
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Thanks for the breakdown JF. I remember being in awe of the Legends Hospitality thing when I was reading about the Cowboys new stadium. They’re making money hand over fist, it’s amazing. They have so many revenue streams, they have their fingers in the pot in every way people consume the Yankees.
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Shame, Yankees are too cheap to send a YES traveling crew. #austerityFTW!
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Ah. Yeah that makes sense.
Who is this Yankee guy thats on the twins radio?
If MLB wants people to take the WBC seriously – and it has the potential to become the World Cup of baseball – they should shut the season down for one month in July. But, of course, we all know the greedy owners would never agree to that…no matter whether it’s for the good of the game or not.
I had to listen to Bob Costas giving the tournament the hard sell night after night, but how can the WBC have any credibility when the greatest baseball-playing nation in the world has yet to reach the semi-finals?
3B for CoJo. If that boy could only field!
Nuney scores off Cojo triple
Robi knock him in.
Oh its just some radio host
Jap, it is slightly more complicate than that, When Cervi beams his blue gazes at Stewie, the process of quantum entanglements takes place, allowing Cervi to get a glimpse of greater mystery of the unknowns that is only privy to Stewie.
everywhere I look on this Yankee team, I see defensive Juggernauts and some hairy thingies.
Cashmoney – LOL, it’s something straight out of Dean Radin.
Only privy to Stewie, who is the custodian of the Greater Mystery. Meanwhile, the Cervelli Gaze has hypnotized the entire Yankee organization.
@DannyKnoblerCBS 35s
Prince Fielder line drive hit Strasburg on left wrist, just above the glove, caromed into center field. Strasburg will stay in the game.
@Ken_Rosenthal 56s
Ronny Cedeno cleared waivers after release from #STLCards. Hit .290 w .791 OPS in 35 PAs this spring. Wilson Valdez another available IFer.
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Count down until Cashman strikes?
bruce – My idea, to offset the $ from lost games by having the WBC in July would be to include as many ballparks in the Pool rounds as possible. Some west coast, east cost and central.
It’s not really fair to other countries but they seem interested no matter where it’s held, so that could be a way to compromise.
Sign all the garbage…..one GMs trash is Cashman’s treasure!
And I don’t think they need a whole month.. the Pool tourneys were all over the place in terms of time tables.. you had some countries get weeks off in between games. Makes no sense.
If we want to fix the WBC we should put someone in charge of it who really cares….Jon Morosi can fix it.
JF, Darth Cashman is way ahead of you on that particular curve, they have like 20 guys getting 9 bucks a hour monitoring the waiver wire at all time.
Vigilance is the price of bargain hunting as Darth C coined that eons ago.
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Sign all the garbage…..one GMs trash is Cashman’s treasure!
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On second thought, trade Heathcott, Austin, Williams and Nova for Chase(I’m hurt) Headley. That should satisfy Blake
Mustelier with another oppo hit. If he keeps this up they may shift on him.
dingleberry what are you talking about….go back the the hyperbolic chamber and sleep it off
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:01 pm
If we want to fix the WBC we should put someone in charge of it who really cares….Jon Morosi can fix it.
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Morosi’s idea of ‘fixing’ it is telling Americans we need to care about it even with all of the reasons to NOT care about it being at the forefront.
The Yankee roster will be filled by whomever is released last by their teams since they were the closest to being big league players. Yet, some people question that team building plan. Just complainers.
J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Cashmoney – LOL, it’s something straight out of Dean Radin.
Only privy to Stewie, who is the custodian of the Greater Mystery. Meanwhile, the Cervelli Gaze has hypnotized the entire Yankee organization.
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I think there is a patented laser procedure the Yankees perform on our catchers’ eyes, which somehow translates to a superior level of eye to hand ability. This results in preternatural pitch framing skills as well as increased ability to execute gymnast-like movements, such as the Arabian Dive Roll and Handstand Forward Roll, which increase our catchers’ blocking abilities. Don’t say we aren’t on the cutting edge of the catching avant garde!
What the heck, Melky Mesa?
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:07 pm
dingleberry what are you talking about….go back the the hyperbolic chamber and sleep it off
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Wassamatta Flake? Get flustered when someone calls you out a bit?
M_Marakovits Hughes: 3IP 6H 3R 2 ER 0BB 3 K. 57 pitches … 34 for strikes #yankees
@BattingStanceG 5m
Official diagnosis of Brennan Boesch is rad swing follow through.
Great fielding
yf – you can’t say that and then not say what Mesa did!!! LOL
So what did he do?
Sounds like the defense is crumbling.
You expect it from Juan Rivera, however. Not from False Melkito.
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:07 pm
dingleberry what are you talking about….go back the the hyperbolic chamber and sleep it off
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Whoa http://board.rapmusic.com/imag.....aydamn.png
Tackelberry, stay classy.
“Wassamatta Flake? Get flustered when someone calls you out a bit?”
you couldn’t fluster me if you tried…..but you should use your imagination for more useful things
Doreen, I unfortunately didn’t see it. So, not sure exactly. I think Melky has had two bad plays, a sailed ball on one. He is imitating Juan Rivera, who also just had a bad play.
Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 1m
i suggested to yank type maybe they get below the $189M this yr since they havent started so hot. answer: “not happening”
As an optimist I will conclude the Yankee minor leaguers showed their hitting abilities against Hughes.
Mesa let a ball go over his head. I couldn’t tell from the radio if it was catchable. Then, Rivera with a throwing error at first.
2B for CoJo. Got to love the bat even in ST. Kid’s always had a beautiful swing/bat.
Yuck. that’s supposed to be his strength.
Thanks.
You know, I understand no tv crew, but I seem to remember a lot more games on RADIO at least during spring training.
Cojo with a triple and double today..
Why don’t you people who feel it is your spiritual obligation to uphold the Yankees’ honor, or whatever you think you’re doing, turn your bile on those who put us in this position of having too much to complain about?
What will you say when Cashman gets the slip? Let me guess: the time was ripe for him to go.
Book it.
Thanks austinmac on the ball over the head play.
It’s aight Jap, we have auxiliary defensive juggernauts in place, Cashman is dialing Luis Polonia as we speak.
Hold on… I have go pick up YankeeSource at his middle school graduation, later Gang.
austinmac March 22nd, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Cojo with a triple and double today..
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the boy can hit. Alas, he really does have “no position,” and certainly not in the current paradigm of “saving runs.”
bruce – My idea, to offset the $ from lost games by having the WBC in July would be to include as many ballparks in the Pool rounds as possible. Some west coast, east cost and central.
It’s a good idea, Shame. The problem is would they be able to stage enough games to offset the revenue lost from the regular season games? If they want the sport to grow worldwide, they need to make some sacrifices.
I don’t love radio broadcasts by the other team’s radio station. They spend a lot of time on things I don’t care about while not descibing the plays the Yankees make or don’t make with any detail. But, better than gameday with no real pitch by pitch.
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:15 pm
“Wassamatta Flake? Get flustered when someone calls you out a bit?”
you couldn’t fluster me if you tried…..but you should use your imagination for more useful things
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Obviously I did, since you started with the name calling. Bottom line is, Cashman is doing what he can to preserve his assets. The season has not even started yet, so no reason to start trading the farm. The Blue Jays, who are supposed to “win the division” are 10-14 this Spring, so ST means NOTHING!!!! Be a little patient and lets see what happens when the games count for real before you call for Cashman’s head
Cashmoney: ooh, flashback to Little Louie’s rocket in ’96 that gave us all a heart attack until it landed in Paulie’s glove
LOL, does he have “P” for a classmate? I miss Green Beret’s taunts of that “kid.”
J. Alfred Prufrock March 22nd, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Why don’t you people who feel it is your spiritual obligation to uphold the Yankees’ honor, or whatever you think you’re doing, turn your bile on those who put us in this position of having too much to complain about?
What will you say when Cashman gets the slip? Let me guess: the time was ripe for him to go.
Book it
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and what will you say if he doesn’t and it works out ok? He was lucky? Works both ways. Like I said, lets see how the season starts to play out before you start demanding that heads roll
Tackleberry has stockholm syndrome, where he has come to love his dumpster based meals. No one ever said to empty the farm. Least of all Blake.
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 2:15 pm
Tackelberry, stay classy.
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Tell that to Blake
I think there is a patented laser procedure the Yankees perform on our catchers’ eyes, which somehow translates to a superior level of eye to hand ability. This results in preternatural pitch framing skills as well as increased ability to execute gymnast-like movements, such as the Arabian Dive Roll and Handstand Forward Roll, which increase our catchers’ blocking abilities. Don’t say we aren’t on the cutting edge of the catching avant garde!
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LOL, and it all starts with Cervelli.
Cervelli has true potential as a comic strip hero.
Tackelberry, you, not Blake, are the one who doesn’t tolerate a difference of opinion.
Jerkface March 22nd, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Tackleberry has stockholm syndrome, where he has come to love his dumpster based meals. No one ever said to empty the farm. Least of all Blake.
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Really? Whats the alternative then since you and Blake and countless others seem to trash every move or pickup Cashman makes
Tackelberry March 22nd, 2013 at 2:22 pm
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:15 pm
“Wassamatta Flake? Get flustered when someone calls you out a bit?”
you couldn’t fluster me if you tried…..but you should use your imagination for more useful things
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Obviously I did, since you started with the name calling. Bottom line is, Cashman is doing what he can to preserve his assets. The season has not even started yet, so no reason to start trading the farm. The Blue Jays, who are supposed to “win the division” are 10-14 this Spring, so ST means NOTHING!!!! Be a little patient and lets see what happens when the games count for real before you call for Cashman’s head
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Blake isn’t calling for the farm to be traded.
True the games haven’t started yet with that being said it’s similar to the Lakers. I know it’s a different sport but the holes in the team were obvious in the pre season(0-8 and can’t defend) and became worse once the actual games were played.
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Tackelberry, you, not Blake, are the one who doesn’t tolerate a difference of opinion
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Who started the name calling YF? go back and look.
Tackelberry March 22nd, 2013 at 2:24 pm
and what will you say if he doesn’t and it works out ok? He was lucky? Works both ways. Like I said, lets see how the season starts to play out before you start demanding that heads roll
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It doesn’t matter how the Yankees do, he believe Cashman should be fired primarily because he traded his beloved Jesus. That’s when the fit hit the shan and it has been rage mode ever since, and apparently will never stop.
True the games haven’t started yet with that being said it’s similar to the Lakers. I know it’s a different sport but the holes in the team were obvious in the pre season(0-8 and can’t defend) and became worse once the actual games were played.
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Baseball and basketball are totally different. Can’t compare the two.
For the record, Blake did call Tackelberry “dingleberry” and then Tackelberry returned with the “Flake” comment.
The Twins broadcasters said Ronnier’s throw to first was as pretty as him name.
Tackelberry March 22nd, 2013 at 2:27 pm
Jerkface March 22nd, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Tackleberry has stockholm syndrome, where he has come to love his dumpster based meals. No one ever said to empty the farm. Least of all Blake.
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Really? Whats the alternative then since you and Blake and countless others seem to trash every move or pickup Cashman makes
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Players that are actually good. Blake is not a star and every position fan. He is the opposite to be honest.
“e a little patient and lets see what happens when the games count for real before you call for Cashman’s head”
maybe you should refer to the other day where I defended Cashman for like an hour
Really? Whats the alternative then since you and Blake and countless others seem to trash every move or pickup Cashman makes
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Darvish, Cespedes, trade for Headley, trade for Jupton, Trade for Choo, sign beltran, retain Swisher, blah blah blah. None of that is ‘trade all 3 of our OF prospects+nova for headley’ which is a stupid strawman hyperbole designed to provoke.
Everyone is trashing Cashman’s trash sorting. Its pathetic that the Yankees actually HAVE to engage in it to stay afloat. It was cute when these guys were last man on the bench types. Less cute when the Yankees are finding multiple starters there.
Tackelberry, I am not the judge and jury, but if you conflate everyone’s posts into one everyone hates Cashman post, then you really aren’t serving the diversity of the posters’ comments or addressing/responding to any of the wide spectrum of issues different posters’ address. It is reductionist to conflate everything/everyone into one broad sweeping statement/poster.
jacksquat March 22nd, 2013 at 2:30 pm
For the record, Blake did call Tackelberry “dingleberry” and then Tackelberry returned with the “Flake” comment.
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So it’s one – and even now the question is who takes the next swipe.
Baseball and basketball are totally different. Can’t compare the two.
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True but you can compare the fact that both teams are old, top heavy, injury prone and rely on older players to get them through a grueling season.
you started it when you made a sarcastic and unprovoked comment…..don’t start crap if you don’t want feedback
and what will you say if he doesn’t and it works out ok? He was lucky? Works both ways. Like I said, lets see how the season starts to play out before you start demanding that heads roll
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I’m not sure why you don’t understand that Cashman deserves the criticism he gets, and that he let the team get old while he busied himself making wise cracks, instead of good deals to avert disaster, at the expense of young players he got rid of who then made him look bad (“Kennedy’s an NL pitcher,” Melky’s a fourth OF,” etc), and iconic Yankees (see Jorge Posada, Derek Jeter).
But whatever.
You obviously feel ardent about Cashman for some reason. Snarling though at the heels of everyone who calls him on his foolishness like some over-wired poodle is a weird way to spend your time on a discussion board, and I expect you’re going to hear that whenever you take potshots at people for expressing their opinion.
The Swisher contract everyone is pining for may easily go to Choo after 2013. Can’t afford it? Then how did you plan to fit in Swisher for that same money?
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:32 pm
“e a little patient and lets see what happens when the games count for real before you call for Cashman’s head”
maybe you should refer to the other day where I defended Cashman for like an hour
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Right, those who feel Cashman has been spurned always only remember the posts that serve their agenda. It is much more complex than that. We have the right to comment on our team’s moves whether positive or negative. If you like this team than enjoy it/love it, but don’t ask others to blindly agree with every move the Yankees make. I love the Yankees, and won’t be silent when they make moves I disagree with. Do you love this team enough to fight for it?
Against All Odds March 22nd, 2013 at 2:32 pm
jacksquat March 22nd, 2013 at 2:30 pm
For the record, Blake did call Tackelberry “dingleberry” and then Tackelberry returned with the “Flake” comment.
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So it’s one – and even now the question is who takes the next swipe.
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C’mon, one guy’s expressing his dissatisfaction as a fan, the other’s deriding the guy with stupid names because he can’t tolerate the expressed view.
Sometimes, you just have to return the blow.
YF:
Its everyone thinks they are a GM. Yanks have missed the postseason once in the last 17 years, so the FO must have some idea what they are doing. To constantly bash them day in and day out, 24/7 is ridiculous when not a single meaningful game has been played yet.
Cashman is a white-bread chickensh*t hawkenberry.
#DCcab1983
Many of us criticize the Yankee management for their direction. Those who disagree with us often attack us for our criticism rather than explaining the Yankees correctness in their actions. Why is that? Is it because that is easier than defending the direction of the team? I would say, yes.
Some disagree and explain their reasoning such as Doreen. I completely respect that, but those who mindlessly attack those of us who are concerned about the decisions of the team, not so much.
Yanks have missed the postseason once in the last 17 years
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With a very specific strategy that management is now eschewing in favor of ‘being like everyone else’. How has it worked for everyone else?
Nova out.
Tackelberry, do people think they are GM’s if they like to discuss and hypothesize about what they feel can improve the ballclub? Should they post a disclaimer every time before stating their opinion?
FiretheUMPIRE March 22nd, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Cashman is a white-bread chickensh*t hawkenberry.
#DCcab1983
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So much for YF call to stay classy
Perhaps, it is dramatically changing the philosophy that led to being in the postseason so often that is the concern. Hmmm. Is that too complex a thought to grasp?
misrepresenting what people actually say is problem around here
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Tackelberry, do people think they are GM’s if they like to discuss and hypothesize about what they feel can improve the ballclub? Should they post a disclaimer every time before stating their opinion?
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Yeah, if they constantly with the coulda shoulda woulda edict. Perfect example is the Granderson deal. Now that Austin Jackson is developing into a solid ballplayer,alot of people like to rip Cashman for that trade. Where were those same fans the first 2 years when Jackson was striking out every other at bat? They also bid “good riddance” to Kennedy only to turn around and kill the FO for giving up when he had a 20 win season in AZ. Can’t have it both ways
Tackelberry, I am not sure what quoting another poster who chose not to be classy has to do with me or you.
As for the Yankees, some like to actively discuss the team, some like to passively root without comment. Neither should be criticized. But austinmac is right, those who passively adhere to Yankee moves are always criticizing those of us who like to actively discuss. A little strange, don’t you think?
Jerkface March 22nd, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Yanks have missed the postseason once in the last 17 years
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With a very specific strategy that management is now eschewing in favor of ‘being like everyone else’. How has it worked for everyone else?
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Not yet. The payroll this year is very close to what it was last year. It’s just half of it is on the DL.
“Now that Austin Jackson is developing into a solid ballplayer,alot of people like to rip Cashman for that trade. Where were those same fans the first 2 years when Jackson was striking out every other at bat? They also bid “good riddance” to Kennedy only to turn around and kill the FO for giving up when he had a 20 win season in AZ. Can’t have it both ways”
you’re assuming those are actually the same people saying the two different things…..its a fun little game some play here……Kinda like talking about Chase Headley leads to someone saying I want to trade the entire farm system for him….
tackelberry, many different posters said different things about the Granderson trade and other moves that the Yankees have or haven’t made. Some liked the Grandy deal, some didn’t. Some weren’t posting on Lohud yet. You can’t just conflate everyone into one group. If you want to address those things, you need to remember/look up who said what and address said poster. I get tired of reading the broad generalizations. I make it my job as a conscientious reader to know who said what before addressing a poster. Perhaps you should too.
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Tackelberry, I am not sure what quoting another poster who chose not to be classy has to do with me or you.
As for the Yankees, some like to actively discuss the team, some like to passively root without comment. Neither should be criticized. But austinmac is right, those who passively adhere to Yankee moves are always criticizing those of us who like to actively discuss. A little strange, don’t you think?
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Sorry No I don’t, not when it is 24/7. Nice to discuss whats actually happening on the field for a change. Guess we’l just agree to disagree on that and move on then.
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Tackelberry, I am not sure what quoting another poster who chose not to be classy has to do with me or you.
As for the Yankees, some like to actively discuss the team, some like to passively root without comment. Neither should be criticized. But austinmac is right, those who passively adhere to Yankee moves are always criticizing those of us who like to actively discuss. A little strange, don’t you think?
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I have no problem with discussion or opinions. It’s just when the opinions (by certain people) appear to always be against someone no matter what that makes me question their validity.
Tackleberry,
So you can show us the same people who wanted Jackson or Kennedy gone are the same ones who criticize? Really? I doubt it. It is simply a further unjustified, unsubstantiated, thoughtless statement you frequently make.
You have no suggestions. You have no thoughts. You just criticize others. Hey, that does feel good.
Not yet. The payroll this year is very close to what it was last year. It’s just half of it is on the DL.
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The current roster is a direct result of their change in strategy, but you get what I mean. HAL and company want to change the game, so they can save money.
bruceb March 22nd, 2013 at 2:21 pm
bruce – My idea, to offset the $ from lost games by having the WBC in July would be to include as many ballparks in the Pool rounds as possible. Some west coast, east cost and central.
It’s a good idea, Shame. The problem is would they be able to stage enough games to offset the revenue lost from the regular season games? If they want the sport to grow worldwide, they need to make some sacrifices.
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bruce – I think the whole tourney could be played in 20 days. You’d double up the Pool games (I think there are 39 games total in the tournament according to that weird graphic they released) to get it done but with west coast/east coast I can’t imagine that’d be a big deal. It’s not a totally perfect system but you could use 13 different stadiums each WBC, with each getting 3 games a piece. It doesn’t make up for the other 7-9 home games they’re losing but they might like the idea of having a special international event hosted at their stadium. It would rotate every WBC so no stadium goes more than 2 WBC without being represented.
“Not yet. The payroll this year is very close to what it was last year. It’s just half of it is on the DL.”
the payroll is irrelevant….it’s what you buy with it that matters. You can pay 100 grand for a Ford Fiesta…..that doesn’t make it a Ferrari….it’s still a Fiesta.
blake, exactly.
Tackleberry is engaging in the classic LOHUD Fallacy. Which to remind you all, is when you conflate the opinions of 1 group with another group, so you can rant and rave.
yankeefeminista March 22nd, 2013 at 2:48 pm
tackelberry, many different posters said different things about the Granderson trade and other moves that the Yankees have or haven’t made. Some liked the Grandy deal, some didn’t. Some weren’t posting on Lohud yet. You can’t just conflate everyone into one group. If you want to address those things, you need to remember/look up who said what and address said poster. I get tired of reading the broad generalizations. I make it my job as a conscientious reader to know who said what before addressing a poster. Perhaps you should too.
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For someone to claims not to be a judge or jury, you certainly seem to have alot to say on the subject don’t you? I’,m not calling out ‘everyone’, just certain fans their 20-20 hindsight.
YF,
Don’t dare express your opinions on the team on a blog that is meant for people to express their opinions on the team.
The problem with ‘certain fans’ and ’20-20 hindsight’ is that likely none of those certain fans are the ones you’re currently engaging, and a lot of us showed some 20-20 FORESIGHT with the current Yankee mess.
Mustelier 2 for 3.
“I have no problem with discussion or opinions. It’s just when the opinions (by certain people) appear to always be against someone no matter what that makes me question their validity.”
Except that almost never happens.
The bigger issue is the people who apologize for mismanagement, almost no matter what.
this comment section is just unreadable.
JS, then you can choose to either address or ignore those posters. But too many people conflate everyone into one poster/post with this for or against heading rather than differentiating and responsibly reading a post.
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 2:50 pm
“Not yet. The payroll this year is very close to what it was last year. It’s just half of it is on the DL.”
the payroll is irrelevant….it’s what you buy with it that matters. You can pay 100 grand for a Ford Fiesta…..that doesn’t make it a Ferrari….it’s still a Fiesta.
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Context. I replied to a post essentially about payroll (trying to be like everyone else = lowering payroll).
Guys, let’s just focus on helping bruce and I fix the WBC!!
Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2013 at 2:53 pm
“I have no problem with discussion or opinions. It’s just when the opinions (by certain people) appear to always be against someone no matter what that makes me question their validity.”
Except that almost never happens.
The bigger issue is the people who apologize for mismanagement, almost no matter what.
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Rich, trying to just simply turn it around just makes you a simpleton.
austinmac March 22nd, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Tackleberry,
So you can show us the same people who wanted Jackson or Kennedy gone are the same ones who criticize? Really? I doubt it. It is simply a further unjustified, unsubstantiated, thoughtless statement you frequently make.
You have no suggestions. You have no thoughts. You just criticize others. Hey, that does feel good.
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MY thought is that lets wait til the season starts before we jump the gun and predict gloom and doom.
bruce – I think the whole tourney could be played in 20 days.
I would really like to see them do something massive within the regular season because how much longer can they go on pretending that the Netherlands team is a true representation of the country? Most of them wouldn’t know the difference between an Easter Bonnet and a Dutch Cap.
Js,
No one cares.
The Yankees for the past couple of years dramatically changed their way of doing business. In fact, they are doing business different from everyone. They have not, with the incomprehensible Ichiro exception, signed any players to more than one year contracts. That leaves players who are largely unwanted by others.
That is a policy that is doomed to failure. Next year, they will control about a dozen MLB players. How they will fill the rest of the roster with a limited amount of money and a limited pool of players is beyond me. I do not think they have any comprehensible plan to do so either.
MY thought is that lets wait til the season starts before we jump the gun and predict gloom and doom.
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No one is going to do this. Simply reacting to whats happening isn’t fun. Humans derive pleasure from making predictions and having them come true. This happens every day in your life whether you realize it or not. No one wants to sit there and passively react to the world around them.
Well maybe some people do, but for people that go out of their way to engage passionately about a topic in a group setting I DOUBT that they are the types.
If the Yankees stop spending money, the terrorists have won..
I have just had some delicious homemade sfogliatelle.
Who is this loser woman on the Twins broadcast? Russell Martin isn’t out of it “at the moment,” he’s (mercifully) no longer a Yankee. Jeez, do your homework.
“Rich, trying to just simply turn it around just makes you a simpleton.”
From the guy who goes by the name squat. And now we know why.
You want to be blunt? You keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again, but when I, or someone else or criticizes Cashman, also points out what Cashman has done right, you ignore it.
Admit it, you love him. That’s ok.
tom, good to see you..
in answer to your question, i roll and cut the biscuits, so they come out square (or square-ish as it says on the menu).
i also made some bangin irish soda biscuits last week that were so popular that we’re gonna do them again this week.
Let’s Go Yankees!
tackelberry, no I don’t think I am. All I am saying is that it is unproductive to conflate posts/posters and assume one viewpoint across a broad spectrum of posters. And especially to daily assume this “us” against “them” mentality when we are all diehard Yankee fans.
Tackleberry,
The whole point of the board is to express and hear others people information and opinions about all aspects of the team. Should we simply sing Cum by Ya.
bruce – I agree completely.. I did some research and found that almost all of the international leagues break for an All-Star game in July.. it’d be great to engage the other professional leagues in a meaningful way. I know a lot of money comes through in the regular season but there has to be a way to bleed this thing so the revenue lost isn’t a major issue. People will buy just about anything and lord knows MLB will find a way to market and sell it.
You can pay 100 grand for a Ford Fiesta…..that doesn’t make it a Ferrari….it’s still a Fiesta.
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Lol my side hurts
“I have just had some delicious homemade sfogliatelle.”
Yum.
“If the Yankees stop spending money, the terrorists have won..”
are you calling Bud Selig a terrorist
Hey Girardi, Mustelier is 2 for 3 today!
Give your fans a break and ‘PLAY MUSTY FOR ME! (well, us)
Ys,
That’s the way I do them, too. I’m going to look you up next time I go through Newark!
Josh Norris@jnorris427 35m
Tyler Austin slaps a single through the left side in his third AB.
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Atta boy.
I wonder if the struggles of Nova and Phelps in their last couple of starts have opened an opportunity (ever so slight) for Nuno to get a shot at a start if Hughes isn’t ready at the start of the season (which he probably won’t be).
“The whole point of the board is to express and hear others people information and opinions about all aspects of the team. Should we simply sing Cum by Ya.”
It’s almost as if some people are willing to tolerate two types of fans. The ones who think the Yankees do everything perfectly, and the ones who think they are nearly perfect.
Yes, Selig has terrorized me and all the other Yankee fans with his Communist manifestos.
I wonder if the struggles of Nova and Phelps in their last couple of starts have opened an opportunity (ever so slight) for Nuno to get a shot at a start if Hughes isn’t ready at the start of the season (which he probably won’t be).
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I don’t think hiccups near the end of ST is gonna squeeze Nuno in past Phelps or Nova, this is around the time guys start to get that spring dead arm. However I think Nuno has definitely catapulted to the head of the pack in the AAA call up area. Only problem is that Warren and Marshall on the 40 man, so they may still get preference.
But i’m sure everyone has been impressed with his command this spring.
@BryanHoch 1m
LHP Vidal Nuno “has opened everyone’s eyes” this spring, according to Cashman. Still has a chance to make the club.
Speak of the devil…
Austin just hits, hits, hits…. if the OF is in shambles by the ASB, get the kid in there.
It’s gonna be really interesting to keep up with the media coverage of the team this year. Some were mentioning what all of us doom and gloom folks would do if the team wins 10 games out of the gate. I’d be interested to see the media response as well. Similarly, I’m looking forward to the ridiculous reaction to a 10 game losing streak (that’s realistically bound to happen in the course of a season). I think when these things happen will have a big impact on the perception of the team.
MG March 22nd, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Hey Girardi, Mustelier is 2 for 3 today!
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I don’t see how they go with anyone else at 3B.. they only have another week until the opener and he’s the best option.
Bryan Hoch ?@BryanHoch 3m
LHP Vidal Nuno “has opened everyone’s eyes” this spring, according to Cashman. Still has a chance to make the club.
yes lets turn another starter into a reliever!
MG,
I would love to see the Yankees give Nuno a shot. Let’s give the younger players areason to believe they will get a chance if they perform well. Nuno has been very good since the beginning of last year. That said, you or I are as likely to start.
Daniel Barbarisi ?@DanBarbarisi 1m
W/ Clay Rapada starting year on DL, Cashman touted LHP Vidal Nuno as possible fill-in; says Nuno has “opened everyone’s eyes” w/ good spring
LOOGYLand for Nuno
“I don’t see how they go with anyone else at 3B.. they only have another week until the opener and he’s the best option.”
Let’s be optimistic and assume it’s a done deal.
Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm
“Rich, trying to just simply turn it around just makes you a simpleton.”
From the guy who goes by the name squat. And now we know why.
You want to be blunt? You keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again, but when I, or someone else or criticizes Cashman, also points out what Cashman has done right, you ignore it.
Admit it, you love him. That’s ok.
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Yeah, I’m probably going to change my name because people can’t seem to get past it.
Some people never say that Cashman has done anything right. Maybe they’ll give him the Swisher trade. Or they will say he dot a couple “dumpster dive” moves right. But that’s it. I simply interject from time to time so this board isn’t just a Cashman bashfest. Of course whenever someone dares speak to the contrary they get called an “apologist” or they are “in love with him”.
I feel like they might give Nuno a look for bullpen duty as the long man since Phelps is needed in the rotation… I hope I’m wrong.
MG,
Are you Hoch or are you a schill for his tweets?
blake March 22nd, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Daniel Barbarisi ?@DanBarbarisi 1m
W/ Clay Rapada starting year on DL, Cashman touted LHP Vidal Nuno as possible fill-in; says Nuno has “opened everyone’s eyes” w/ good spring
LOOGYLand for Nuno
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if they put Nuno in a short reliever role after the spring he’s had they really need their heads examined-then I’d want Cashman to jump out of plane again but this time land on his head, maybe it would knock some sense into it.
Good for Nuno! His family would be proud!
“Yeah, I’m probably going to change my name because people can’t seem to get past it.”
Keep it. It works for you.
“Some people never say that Cashman has done anything right. Maybe they’ll give him the Swisher trade. Or they will say he dot a couple “dumpster dive” moves right. But that’s it. I simply interject from time to time so this board isn’t just a Cashman bashfest. Of course whenever someone dares speak to the contrary they get called an “apologist” or they are “in love with him”.
Name names.
if Nuno makes the team it’ll almost certainly be as a reliever…..which is a waste….
Yahoo had a story of a guy who’s parachute malfunctioned and he fell into the Earth from 8,000 ft, impacting at 30 mph. Other than a dislocated shoulder, he was fine. If he were a Yankee? He would have spontaneously combusted upon impact.
austinmac March 22nd, 2013 at 3:14 pm
MG,
Are you Hoch or are you a schill for his tweets?
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mac, two questions:
1. Who is Hoch?
2. What is a tweet?
With all seriousness, I don’t like Twitter so, except for scrolling past it on this board, never read any of it and the only Hoch I know of is Scott Hoch, the pro golfer…
“LOOGYLand for Nuno”
About what I expected. Got to have those LOOGY’s backed up in spades.
Musty just doubled in two.
To left, even.
A. Both Nova and Phelps are probably going through some form of “Dead Arm” right about now.
B. Nuno throws in the mid to high eighties – Has to be dead on or ‘Horror City’.
tomingeorgia March 22nd, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Musty just doubled in two.
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tom, from now on it’s Generational Bat Musty, the greatest Cuban ex-pat 3rd baseman of all time and a sure fire HOFamer…
Cash gets his fair share of credit the problem is he hasn’t lived up to the goals he set for himself and the organization. 6-7 yrs ago he stated that with money nd the farm the rest of the league better watch out but instead the exact opposite has happened. The league is flushed with money and farm/young players and the Yankees are old
Mustelier 3 for 4, 2 rbi, hitting .313. Joe are you watching?
Musty is the next Nelson Cruz.
Flores in.
MG,
That was probably Minnie Minoso, but hagiography aside, he can be a very good ball player.
“tom, from now on it’s Generational Bat Musty, the greatest Cuban ex-pat 3rd baseman of all time and a sure fire HOFamer…”
If that meme gains traction, he could be traded for a pitcher.
Considering he will be 29 this season, that may not be a bad thing in his case.
Beggars can’t be choosers. I’ll take Nuno making team as specialist any day of the week.
OT, but kind of amazing:
Surprisingly, the UN reports there are now more people with mobile phones (six billion for world population of seven billion) on earth than there are with access to clean toilets (4.5 billion).
If I were to change my LoHud handle I think I’d be…. Drogon.
Mine would be Shame.
Doesn’t look like Nuno’s logged more than 150 innings in any given year… I’d hate to have him take a step back in that regard.
Rich in NJ March 22nd, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Mine would be Shame.
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YES!! Shame lives.
Mine would be Istillhateyoukeventhoughheswearingpinstripes.
Catchy or what?