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Spring training Game 30: Yankees vs. Rays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 24, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (11-17)
Brett Gardner CF
Eduardo Nunez SS
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Kevin Youkilis 3B
Travis Hafner DH
Juan Rivera 1B
Ben Francisco LF
Francisco Cervelli C
Jayson Nix 2B

RHP Adam Warren (0-2, 9.64)

RAYS (14-13)
Desmond Jennings CF
Kelly Johnson 2B
Ben Zobrist DH
Matt Joyce RF
Shelley Duncan 1B
Yunel Escobar SS
Ryan Roberts 3B
Jose Molina C
Sean Rodriguez LF

RHP Jeremy Hellickson (2-2, 4.97)

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network

WEATHER: Cloudy and looks like rain. Not a great day for a ball game.

UMPIRES: HP Manny Gonzalez, 1B Mark Wegner, 2B Kolin Kline, 3B Marcus Pattillo

YOUNG AND OLD: Jose Pirela is the youngest player still in camp with the Yankees. He was born on November 21, 1989. The oldest player in camp, Mariano Rivera, was born almost exactly 20 years earlier on November 29, 1969.

OPENING DAY: Ladies and gentlemen, your Opening Day shortstop… Eduardo Nunez!

WHAT TO WATCH: Ben Francisco and Ichiro Suzuki switched positions — Francisco was in right yesterday — so the Yankees appear to be determining which way they prefer those two. If I had to guess right now, I’d say Francisco will be the right-handed outfielder on this team, which will likely put him in the lineup (in either left or right) on Opening Day. … Another turn at first base for Juan Rivera. Will he stick around or will the Yankees find a better alternative in the end-of-spring scraps. … David Aardsma and Boone Logan are each scheduled to pitch today.

UPDATE, 1:30 p.m.: Warren gives up a run in the top of the first, but Kevin Youkilis makes up for it with a two-run homer in the bottom half. It’s 2-1 Yankees now heading into the bottom of the second.

UPDATE, 1:56 p.m.: Opening Day shortstop Eduardo Nunez has an RBI triple. He’s definitely moving better than Jeter at this point.

UPDATE, 2:12 p.m.: Gardner wasn’t exactly deep in center field, but he made a good enough throw to keep the runner at third. Then Youkilis botched the transfer on what should have been the final out of the inning. It’s now 3-2 because of the unearned run.

UPDATE, 2:19 p.m.: Warren couldn’t get out of the fourth, so here’s Nuno to try to get the last out. He’s facing Kelly Johnson. This is clearly an audition for a relief role in the Yankees pen.

UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: The Rays have pulled ahead 5-3, and the Yankees are only out of the inning because Francisco Cervelli threw out another runner trying to steal second.

UPDATE, 3:17 p.m.: Solo homer by Travis Hafner has pulled the Yankees within 5-4 heading into the seventh.

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178 Responses to “Spring training Game 30: Yankees vs. Rays”

  1. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Is Shelley Duncan going to make the Rays?

  2. jmills March 24th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Well, I guess Happ is my #5. Romero is having a makeover with a few brief days to go. I hope Pete Walker knows what he’s doing.

  3. jmills March 24th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Haha, Billy Joel, ” New York State of Mind, ” on. Rather nice on a Sunday.

  4. Sir Harden Thick March 24th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Adam Warren is next in line at AAA. LOL
    No starting depth at all.

  5. jmills March 24th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Sir Harden Thick, hi, I think there was an expansion pitcher for the Jays in ’77 by the name of Steve Harden who came over from the Rangers. I don’t know if he ever appeared.

  6. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Jack Curry ?@JackCurryYES 7m
    After Yanks-Rays on YES today, watch Pride, Power and Pinstripes, a preview of 2013. Interviews with Jeter, Rivera, Pettitte, Girardi

    ————

    Not sure if “Power” is going to work for the name of that segment anymore. Have to come up with another P word. Maybe “Paltry”…

  7. kd March 24th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    youk locked in

    if he can do that all year, it’s a different lineup

  8. jacksquat March 24th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    If Jeter hadn’t been hurt my infielders would have been Jeter, Youkilis, Musty, Cano, Nunez and Rivera. Of course, Rivera and Musty could also fill outfield roles. The only position in the infield without two reasonably capable players would be 2B but Cano plays every day and surely Nunez could play a handful.

    It is all irrelevant now.

    I agree with this but I don’t think Girardi does.

  9. cs in la March 24th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    I missed Youk’s HR – what is Sterling’s call for Youk?

  10. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Love that Youk is playing so well. People are going to have to swallow their Pride and pull for this guy. He will be a bigger key now than anyone could have ever imagined.

    Said it right away and continue to say that he is going to have a huge year. I just hope he gets some help along the way.

    Put Cano 3rd and protect him with Youk in the Clean-Up spot.

  11. jmills March 24th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Youk is looking, interesting.

  12. Ghostwriter March 24th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Love that Youk is playing so well. People are going to have to swallow their Pride and pull for this guy. He will be a bigger key now than anyone could have ever imagined.

    Said it right away and continue to say that he is going to have a huge year. I just hope he gets some help along the way.

    Put Cano 3rd and protect him with Youk in the Clean-Up spot.
    ======

    I absolutely agree. I think that the Youkilis signing was huge, and it will turn out to have been a great move.

  13. astrocityfan March 24th, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    The yanks can use the rays model of pitching and defense to win right? There is still hop for the season right?? Sigh

  14. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Cashman said “you know” nineteen times in that interview, and said “It was not realistical” to expect Jeter back for Opening Day.

  15. Bo knows March 24th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Cashman said “you know” nineteen times in that interview, and said “It was not realistical” to expect Jeter back for Opening Day.

    ——————
    College ball players.

  16. astrocityfan March 24th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Warren not looking bad. Good change up today

  17. FiretheUMPIRE March 24th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    I agree, Cano-Youk could anchor the middle of the order. If Granderson can come back and not be a K-king that would be even better. Sprinkle in Jeter and Ichiro and maybe we have enough to get by with our pitching.

  18. Bo knows March 24th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    I like Gardner’s swing much more this year compared to years past.

  19. Ghostwriter March 24th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    FiretheUMPIRE March 24th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    I agree, Cano-Youk could anchor the middle of the order. If Granderson can come back and not be a K-king that would be even better. Sprinkle in Jeter and Ichiro and maybe we have enough to get by with our pitching.
    ===================

    Moreoever, the offense will get back ARod and Tex (hopefully) in time for the stretch run.

  20. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;mlb.html

    Ouch… Montero looks a wee bit stunned in that pic.

  21. FiretheUMPIRE March 24th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    I wouldn’t count on that.

  22. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Great set of wheels on Nunez!

  23. Ghostwriter March 24th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/…..1;mlb.html

    Ouch… Montero looks a wee bit stunned in that pic.
    ===========

    He’s probably wishing that he was a 5’11″ catcher right about now…

  24. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Nice play behind second for Nunez, one-hop throw muffed by Rivera.

  25. tucker March 24th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Musty’s playing time seems to be decreasing as the Spring marches on, not a good sign for him. Though perhaps the Jeter on the DL would open a spot for him.

  26. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Great throw by Cervelli.

  27. blake March 24th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    @jnorris427: And here’s what y’all really want to see: Tyler Austin HR No. 1 http://t.co/GRgR7SzOpp #Yankees @TrentonThunder

  28. blake March 24th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    @jnorris427: And here’s the second HR from Mr. Austin. Absolute bomb. http://t.co/akHTY9k0od #Yankees @TrentonThunder

  29. blake March 24th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Youk struggling at 3B….Nuno struck him out pitch before and didnt get the call

  30. Jerkface March 24th, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Youk showing off the iron glove at third

  31. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Cervelli guns down another one.

  32. austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    JS,

    I don’t think Girardi would agree with me. No surprise as they never seem to these days.

  33. Nilsson March 24th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    There’s one week left to go in ST. Experimenting ought to be over. Just park Youkilis at 1B and Mustelier at 3B to begin the season.

    Gotta give credit where it’s due. Cervelli looking good on D.

  34. Ghostwriter March 24th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Youk struggling at 3B….Nuno struck him out pitch before and didnt get the call
    ==================

    Perhaps the Yanks are looking more at whether they prefer Youk at first versus third, rather than comparing Rivera and Mustelier. If Musty and Rivera are in a dead heat for the job, Youk could be the difference-maker.

  35. jacksquat March 24th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Cervelli throwing out over 50%

  36. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    blake,
    What time is the Heels game? Kansas, isn’t it?

  37. austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    I would think giving Mustelier a chance would mean playing him more than once every few days.

  38. jacksquat March 24th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    Joe said a few days ago that Rivera has been “looking good” at 1b, so after that I considered the “comptetition” over. I would be shocked if they went with Mustelier/Youkilis.

  39. Tar March 24th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    “What time is the Heels game? Kansas, isn’t it?”

    5:15

    What time is the Bulldogs game? Oh wait…

  40. Nilsson March 24th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    I’m not trying to predict what Girardi is thinking. I just think it’s in the best interest of the team to play Youk at 1B and go with Mustelier at the hot corner. With all the recent injuries, Youk’s offense in the lineup becomes more important. I feel first base will be less demanding physically for him.

  41. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Salisbury: Yankees are “poking around” on Yuniesky Betancourt
    By Mike Axisa
    Via Jim Salisbury: The Yankees are one of a handful of teams “poking around” on infielder Yuniesky Betancourt. I assume their thinking involves bringing in someone who would make Eduardo Nunez — who will start at shortstop as Derek Jeter slowly recovers from his ankle injury — look like an All-Star by comparison.
    Betancourt, 31, can opt-out of his minor league contract with the Phillies if they do not add him to the roster today. He’s had a strong camp — 21-for-47 (.447) with three doubles and a homer — but remains one of the very worst players in baseball, a no-hit/no-glove type. Yuni is a .266/.290/.392 (79 wRC+) hitter in nearly 4,000 career plate appearances with a -49.2 UZR and -74 DRS in just over 8,200 defensive innings, in case you didn’t believe me. The Phillies are likely to keep him as a backup infielder, so the Yankees might not even get a chance to acquire Betancourt if they wanted.

  42. blake March 24th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    tomingeorgia says:
    March 24, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    blake,
    What time is the Heels game? Kansas, isn’t it?

    Yup 5:15….upset time!

  43. Tar March 24th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Tom

    That’s whats known as a preemptive strike. :D

  44. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Tar,
    After today, we’ll be able to say that Harvard spent exactly as much time in the playoffs as UNC.

  45. Tar March 24th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Tom

    Good for Harvard. But what does that say about the Bulldogs, if you have to switch allegiance and hang your hat on Harvard?

  46. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Tar, and what Bulldogs are you talking about? They play for some rinky-dink college down in Connecticut, don’t they?

  47. Tar March 24th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Are you not a Georgia fan Tom? Or are you just an anti-UNC fan?

  48. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    UNC gave me a win in our pool vs Illinois, for the trophy.

    Another #1 is due to fall.

  49. austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    YT,

    I love the no stone unturned policy, but it would be better if they weren’t baseball tombstones.

  50. tucker March 24th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Yasiel Puig, the Cuban signed by the Dodgers, had 25 hits through his first 48 at bats ths spring with an OPS and 1.354 … Another Cuban OF the Yanks could have signed for only money. another Cuban outfielder they passed on because of money. And the Cuban they have in their system with a proven ability to hit is getting fewer and fewer chances.

    Looks like Hal & Co. are taking this Cuban embargo thing a little too seriously.

  51. massjake March 24th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Clearly the Yanks will need to rely on pitching and defense at least until the big boys come back. They look sloppy today. Bad sign.

  52. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Tar,
    Oh, you mean the Dawgs! They haven’t sniffed a conference championship in basketball for years and years. They produce some good baseball players and a bunch of good golfers, though. I don’t imagine their football team playing Harvard (Ivy League Champs, by the way), so I don’t have to choose,
    No bias against the Heels. ‘Nova gave played them a good game the other day, and I don’t think they’re going much farther, is all.
    Now, when and if, in your dreams, the Heels could challenge the Dawgs in football, I’d be biased.

  53. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    If u listen closely, u can almost hear the feint murmur already…..rock chalk jayhawk k.u.

  54. blake March 24th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Carlo says:
    March 24, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    If u listen closely, u can almost hear the feint murmur already…..rock chalk jayhawk k.u.

    You adopting the Jayhawks since the Big East is dead?

  55. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    YT,

    I love the no stone unturned policy, but it would be better if they weren’t baseball tombstones.
    ———–
    LMAO.
    Maybe the Yankees will see the “light” and bring the 28 yo Cuban who is a lifetime .300 plus hitter, and much better defensively than he has been given credit for, North with the team and play him.

  56. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Blake

    If I had known the Big 10 were going to be 9-1 so far in the Tournament, I would have given them their just due.

    Big East has been a big disappointment.

  57. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Trader –

    Hopefully they are poking around him much the same way a child might poke at the veggies on his plate with no intention of actually doing anything with them.

    Tucker –

    On Puig you might find this interesting: From Keith Law in response to a question about Puig’s strong spring
    The overrating of Puig based on a few weeks of spring training is one of this year’s best non-story storylines.

  58. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Am I mistaken or does the big east have 3 teams in the sweet 16 already? Did the acc only get 4 teams in the tourney? My guys are alive, well, and headed to the final four.

    Rock….. chalk ….jay…. hawk K.Uuuuu

  59. Duh Innings II March 24th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    2008 Yankees:

    789 runs and 4.87 runs per game (worst in a season not shortened by strike after 1992)

    .769 OPS (tied with the 2001 Yankees for worst in a season not shortened by strike after ’92)

    .427 SLG (second-worst in a season not shortened by strike after ’92)

    .342 OBP (third-lowest in a season not shortened by strike after ’92)

    180 HR (only 17 more than the ’92 team, third-lowest HR total for a year in the Torre-Girardi era, and worst HR total for a year after ’97.)

    4.28 ERA vs. the 2012 Yankees 3.85 ERA

    1141 SO vs. the 2012 Yankees 1318 SO

    1.364 WHIP vs. the 2012 Yankees 1.268 WHIP

    The 2008 Yankees got half a season from their ace (15 starts from Wang)

    …AND THEY STILL WON 89 GAMES.

    Therefore, the 2013 Yankees will win at least 90 games and hit at least 164 HR.

    Toronto is good only on paper. Let’s see them win the 20 more games they won last year they’ll need to win the division. R.A. Dickey is old, Josh Johnson posted a 3.81 ERA in the NL last year, Mark Buerhle is a total fourth starter, Jose Reyes has a pathetic career OBP for his speed and hitting ability, let’s see Melky Cabrera hit without PED, and Jose Bautista is a year older and coming off of major wrist surgery. Who’s their bullpen again? Who’s their offense beyond Bautista, Encarnacion, Reyes, and Cabrera? Who’s the backups for them? Who do they call up if a starter or two fall to injury?

    Baltimore had their first good season in 15 years last year – let’s see them have another one. Recent istory shows they won’t and remember they won alot of one-run games last year. They did nothing this offseason. 84 wins tops and I’m being kind.

    Boston won only 69 games last season and WTF have they done this offseason to be a .500 or better team. 75 wins tops for them and I’m being kind, and they’ll suck even worse when Lester signs elsewhere after this year.

    Tampa Bay won 90 games but lost their #2 starter Shields and they still can’t hit. 83 wins tops for them, and I’m being kind.

    The Yankees still have the best pitching (rotation, bullpen, ace, 1-2 punch, closer, depth) in the division. Their offense is shorthanded right now but only due to injuries but don’t count them out come trading season.

    Hafner is perfectly capable of posting the HR and RBI Ibanez posted with a better slashline. Someone else could be a postseason HR hero.

    Big deal if Cervelli and Stewart combine for only 8 HR (say Cervelli 5, Stewart 3.) Fourteen HR lost from the catcher OH MY GOD!!! LOL. For all of Martin’s homeruns he still drove in only 53 runs last year and had horrific BA and OBP. Stewart was on pace to drive in 36 runs had his PA been tripled.

    Suzuki could post a better slashline than Swisher with half the amount of HR Swisher hit and Boesch could hit a dozen homeruns, too.

    ‘Say Teixiera is out for the year. Juan Rivera and someone else could smack say 16 HR and 70 RBI combined, only 8 less HR and 14 less RBI than 2012 Teixiera. Rivera posted 9 HR and 47 RBI in only 339 PA last year.

  60. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Too bad Mustelier diidn’t start today at 3rd. With all the chances Youkilis has had today, Ronnier would have had a chance to show the better combination might be him at third and Youkilis at first.

  61. tucker March 24th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Chip, a lot of people questioned Cespedes last spring as well. Obviously Puig is not going to continue this torrid hitting, and he will likely open the year in AA. But he is playing well enough that the Dodgers may consider moving Ethier, according to Sherman, who is likely the most well sourced NY baseball writer.

    The point is he would certainly be a nice option for the Yankees old, MLB-ready talent starved roster. The kid is 22. And all he cost was money, and not that much for AAV purposes for the magical goal of 189.

    The old world order always had the Yanks in the mix for such top-flight international talents. Now, the organization is an afterthought for these MLB-ready players.

  62. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Marakovitz is painful to listen to.

    The Mets are an atrocious team but for game coverage SNY is leaps and bounds ahead of YES.

  63. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    How many will the big east have next year? How mic longer will it even be a conference?

  64. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Duh – if u want to set an over/under on how many wins this team will have, greater than 89, like u said, I’ll take however much action u want to lay, on under that #.

  65. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Tucker -

    I’m not sure that’s entirely true. The Yankees have only signed a few really high profile international players (not counting guys like Gary Sanchez et al who get signed as 16 year olds)

    El Duque
    Irabu
    Contreras
    Matsui
    Igawa

  66. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Well, let’s see, gtown, marquette, nova, butler, creighton, are all big east teams…..so the new big east still had more tourney teams this year than the football rich ACC. But hey, if u can’t beat the big east, hope the conf realigns and revel in that. Classic.

  67. jacksquat March 24th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    The Yankees should ban mustaches. Joba looks ridiculous.

  68. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    ” But hey, if u can’t beat the big east, hope the conf realigns and revel in that. Classic.”

    How many championships do those teams have? How many does the ACC have?

  69. FiretheUMPIRE March 24th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Why does the new Big East not include UConn? Is UConn trying to create a bidding war or something between the new Big East and the ACC?

    I doubt they stay with Cincy and the scrub teams very long.

  70. Sir Harden Thick March 24th, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    there are more rays fans here at Steinbrenner field then there are at the Rays Tropicana field

  71. jmills March 24th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Boy, my neighbour is really down on the Jays’ chances, then again,…..she watches the Raptors!!! :)

  72. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    jacksquat March 24th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    The Yankees should ban mustaches. Joba looks ridiculous.
    —————

    Joba is an idiot so the look fits.

  73. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Hahaha, no doubt the ACC was a good conference in prior decades and with the big east infusion, they will be good on a go forward basis. Duke really did a lot for the ACC.

  74. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    Carlo says:
    March 24, 2013 at 3:25 pm
    Hahaha, no doubt the ACC was a good conference in prior decades and with the big east infusion, they will be good on a go forward basis. Duke really did a lot for the ACC.

    They’ll only won 5 of the last 11 years….past decades? Please

  75. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    jack-

    apparently he woke up one morning and decided “hey, I want to look like the creepy stranger with the van and unwrapped candy from every after school special from the mid-80s.” It’s all part of his “Hey look at me!” act

  76. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Big east has like 4 titles in the last 25 years….and none of them are from teams that will actually still be in the big east going forward

  77. PacoDooley March 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    tucker March 24th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    Chip, a lot of people questioned Cespedes last spring as well. Obviously Puig is not going to continue this torrid hitting, and he will likely open the year in AA. But he is playing well enough that the Dodgers may consider moving Ethier, according to Sherman, who is likely the most well sourced NY baseball writer.

    The point is he would certainly be a nice option for the Yankees old, MLB-ready talent starved roster. The kid is 22. And all he cost was money, and not that much for AAV purposes for the magical goal of 189.

    The old world order always had the Yanks in the mix for such top-flight international talents. Now, the organization is an afterthought for these MLB-ready players.
    —————————————

    Their unwillingness to spend on the recent international FAs has really bothered me more than the rest of their penny pinching. I am fine with Martin leaving, and I can even understand losing Swisher. But they missed a chance to use their fiscal power and international reputation to pull in some of these top free agent talents. How different would the future look with Cespedes, Puig and Darvish in the system? Would also be good for the Yankees brand in Japan.

  78. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    @JeffPassan: Sources: Yankees in talks with Angels for outfielder Vernon Wells. Lots of money would go back to New York. Deal could be done today.

    Are they serious?

  79. Ed Whitson March 24th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    $90M in payroll on the DL to start the season.

  80. PacoDooley March 24th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    @JeffPassan: Sources: Yankees in talks with Angels for outfielder Vernon Wells. Lots of money would go back to New York. Deal could be done today.

    Are they serious?
    —————————-

    No, please, no. How could anyone imagine that Wells would be any better than throwing someone like Mustelier out there and hoping he can cover an OF corner.

  81. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    I give up….

  82. jacksquat March 24th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    @JeffPassan: Sources: Yankees in talks with Angels for outfielder Vernon Wells. Lots of money would go back to New York. Deal could be done today.

    Are they serious?

    The ultimate dumpster dive.

  83. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    @JeffPassan: Sources: Yankees in talks with Angels for outfielder Vernon Wells. Lots of money would go back to New York. Deal could be done today.

    Are they serious?
    ————————-

    So in one day I have read about the Yankees getting Vernon Wells and considering Yunesky Betancourt…

    now where did I put the key to the liquor cabinet?

  84. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Vernon wells?
    And yet another slap in the face of Yankee prospects. Can’t wait to see what we lose to get this done. So are we taking wells, boesch, Rivera, and Francisco? Seems really redundant…

  85. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Blake-
    Wells -Well that would fit the Yankees current profile :(

  86. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Right, the big east is going to be a new conference. A basketball conference. Much like its predecessor, I am sure it will emerge quickly and make its national presence felt. The acc will go from being a two team conference who lost to big east teams routinely in final fours and regional finals and develop into a competitive league like the big east was and the new big east will be.

  87. Jerkface March 24th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Mlb xm is saying yanks are trying to trade for vernon wells…why? Why????? WHY???!!

  88. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Freddy Garcia was just cut – how long until he is linked with the Yankees?

    Though I suppose if you get Wells for Cody Eppley and have the Angles pick up the entire salary you might as well do it.

  89. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    I mean who’s spot does he take? Francisco….Rivera…..I don’t get piling up these guys that are all the same player

  90. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    That .230 avg and .279 obp is exactly what a team in need of offense needs… Eye roll

  91. pat March 24th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    JeffPassan
    Important caveat: Vernon Wells has a no-trade clause and must greenlight any deal. Unclear at this point whether he would go to New York.

  92. Ed Whitson March 24th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    If you can’t go down to the farm to get somebody as good as Vernon Wells its an indictment of your system.

  93. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Vernon wells?
    And yet another slap in the face of Yankee prospects. Can’t wait to see what we lose to get this done. So are we taking wells, boesch, Rivera, and Francisco? Seems really redundant…
    ——————————
    a) it hasn’t happened yet
    b) no, not all of those guys will be on the 25
    c) I wanted Melky Mesa and Zoilo Almonte to win spots this spring, neither showed that they were ready.

  94. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Via Jeff Passan: The Yankees are in talks to acquire Vernon Wells and a trade could happen as soon as today. The Angels would be eating a whole lot of the $42M owed to the outfielder over the next two years. Wells has a full no-trade clause and it’s unclear if he would waive it to come to New York. We heard the two sides talked trade back in December
    .
    Wells, 34, has had a strong spring — 13-for-36 (.361) with a double and four homers — but he’s been terrible during his two years in Anaheim: .222/.258/.409 (82 wRC+) in 791 plate appearances. He has hit .266/.313/.481 (119 wRC+) against southpaws the last two seasons, but he’s been far below-average against lefties in three of the last four years (134 wRC in 2011 being the exception). If the Yankees give up a fringy prospect and the Halos eat enough salary to make him a ~$2M per year player, it would be not horrible but still pretty bad.

  95. joeman March 24th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Yankees deep in trade talks for Vernon Wells…and the hits keep coming ?

  96. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Blake -

    My guess is he would take Boesch’s spot with Francisco being on the bench and Rivera at 1b.

  97. pat March 24th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Joelsherman1
    Can confirm Jeff Passan report that #Yankees #Angels working out final details to move Vernon Wells to NYY

  98. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    The only way wells fits is if Rivera is gone. They are the same player.
    Would also fit if they dropped Hefner and let wells dh. Since neither will happen, this is just them telling mustelier to give up.

  99. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Carlo,
    I think the Big East will add several more religiously-affliliated teams pretty soon. There are a lot of St.s and Loyolas out there, mostly city schools, who could recruit like crazy if they were in the Big East, especially with the new TV contract. From what they have now, St. John’s won’t be doormats forever, and Villanova is there every year.

    I’d like to see the best ACC teams play a full season of Big East basketball, where the rule is, no blood, no foul.

  100. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Chip, agreed on Mesa and Lamont’s but musty did show he was ready and if this happens, the only foreseeable set up is Rivera at 1b, youk at 3b, nix backing up, boesch/ wells in lf, and probably Francisco who is actually hitting. Where is the room for musty? Especially after players start coming off dl.

  101. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Maybe the trade can be expanded to include ARod moving to LA. :)

  102. joeman March 24th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    been saying since December Jeter will have a problem this year getting back on the field

  103. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    ac1 -

    This doesn’t impact Mustelier in the least.

    The Yankees are trying to decide if they’re better with Youk at 3b and Rivera at 1b or Youk at 1b and Mustelier at 3b

    Rivera stinks, we all know that. But the Yankees signed him and told him to come in and hit enough to win a job…to this point he’s done that. They can play Mustelier in AAA and when Rivera plays himself off the team Mustelier is still there.

  104. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    “I’d like to see the best ACC teams play a full season of Big East basketball, where the rule is, no blood, no foul.”

    Lol….no talent teams have to play rough

  105. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    @Joelsherman1: Wells is owed $42M over next 2 yrs. Suspect #Angels have to eat at least $34 — all but $4M per yr — for deal. #Yankees

    How on earth can they even think about adding actual money to their payroll for Vernon wells?

  106. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Wells? I didn’t think they’d go there. At least I had hoped not.

  107. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Is that what roy said after gtown rolled them in the 07 regional final or what coach k said after uconn buzz sawed him multiple times?

  108. pkyankfan69 March 24th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Vernon Wells lol… Have the Yankees not looked at his stats the past 2 years.

    Maybe if Cash brings in enough washed up players they can form some kind of Mega-Person.

  109. RadioKev March 24th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    I’d take Wells over Boesch, Mesa, and Francisco, yeah. Hope we’re not giving up anything decent.

  110. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    If this trade goes through – I think Brennan Boesch will end up in AAA and you’ll have a starting OF of Wells in LF, Gardner in CF and Ichiro in RF with Francisco as the 4th OF.

    On another note
    The look on Youk’s face is priceless “that’s how you beat a stupid looking shift.”

  111. tomingeorgia March 24th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Youk!

  112. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Looking like Youkilis will be the team leader in homers from the right side.

  113. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    I just don’t even know what to say about this…they are going to take on real money to trade for a player that is probably worse than what they have

  114. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    @Joelsherman1: Wells is owed $42M over next 2 yrs. Suspect #Angels have to eat at least $34 — all but $4M per yr — for deal. #Yankees

    How on earth can they even think about adding actual money to their payroll for Vernon wells?
    ———————————–
    The question is less about the money than how they get him on the roster. If you send them Cody Eppley for him fine…but if you have to release someone with actual value then that’s a problem.

  115. Ed Whitson March 24th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Never mind – I’ve changed my mind on Vernon Wells. He’ll fit in nicely. Over paid, best years are long gone and in his mid-thirties. Awesome.

  116. austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    I would say this is unbelievable, but it is now the expectation. Pick up declining players and think they will rejuvenate.

    I said the other day, the most recent acquisition will be the one(s) who make the team.

  117. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    I just don’t even know what to say about this…they are going to take on real money to trade for a player that is probably worse than what they have
    —————

    Deep breath…deeeeep breath.

    Let’s see what happens; what this deal is if it goes through.

  118. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Where is Duh……I need under that under 89 wins number asap. Powerball is 320 mm but this feels like easier money.

  119. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Carlo says:
    March 24, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    Is that what roy said after gtown rolled them in the 07 regional final or what coach k said after uconn buzz sawed him multiple times?

    Take a look at the scoreboard….unc and duke are in a different class bud

  120. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    YOUUUUUK!!!!

    That. Is. All.

  121. austinmac March 24th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Add even more money for 2014 for a declining player. They didn’t have enough of that already?

  122. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    It is about the money….they can’t sell this 189 BS and then give 4-5 million of it to a broken down 5th outfielder

  123. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    So all this concern for 2014 and now they are going to add 4 mil, plus ichiro 6.5 mil. Alex will likely have to full time dh next year, so they are already seemingly tying their hands for Gardner, heathcorr, Austin, Mesa, almonte. I don’t see how they can stick to their 189m idea at this points and hold cano, jeter, etc..

  124. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Mark Feinsand is saying that it would be a low level prospect who goes for Wells – that’s an issue because it means you still have to create a roster spot for him; which means you not only give up the low level prospect, but possibly whoever you have to move off the 40 as well.

  125. pkyankfan69 March 24th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Wells has been a real terror for LHP the last 3 years:

    .243/.305/.440 /.745

    **Rolls Eyes***

  126. blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    @mikeaxisa: Can’t wait for the Yankees to pay Ichiro + Wells what they could have played Swisher this year.

  127. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    blake March 24th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    It is about the money….they can’t sell this 189 BS and then give 4-5 million of it to a broken down 5th outfielder
    ——————-

    Well, maybe this helps steer them away from $189 next year.

  128. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Is it really worth it for the Angels to move Wells and eat all that money just for a low level prospect?

  129. Jerkface March 24th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    There’s no way they can put wells on the 189 2014 budget, he sucks and blows at the same time.

  130. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    That’s what I’ve been saying. Its unc/duke, and a bunch of colonial athletic league teams in the ACC. Unfortunate that recent history has not been kind to the ACC’s best when they tangle with top teams in the big east.

  131. waka flocka March 24th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    this team really is a joke. i can’t even process the logic behind the decision making anymore

  132. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Is it really worth it for the Angels to move Wells and eat all that money just for a low level prospect?
    ———————–
    Creates some roster flexibility.

  133. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Also the report of 34 million to the yankees may be overblown according to passan.
    I can see the yankees somehow taking on like 20 mil. Honestly would rather have Alfonso soriano than wells.

  134. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    I hope our best prospects like humberto sanchez aren’t in the deal.

  135. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    @JeffPassan: Yankees official: “I just wonder where this money was in December.” So do a lot of others.
    ——

    Could have put all of this money into 1 quality player instead of 5 crappy ones.

  136. mick March 24th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Wells or Francisco as the RH DH?

  137. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Its shocking that so many people get so emotional about these yankees moves. I’m numb to it by now. This team is so comically pathetic its not even worth being upset by the shockingly retarded decisions.

  138. mick March 24th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    This place blows up if Musty is in the deal.
    As it is it will cost him his roster spot.

  139. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Rh dh? What about jeter and Nunez.

  140. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Still doesn’t solve the corner IF, questions right now. I thought OF wise we were fine.

  141. mick March 24th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    aardsma has taken time off from tweeting to close the game?

  142. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    So assuming this trade happens and Jeter, Hughes, Rapada all start the season on the DL – here’s my revised opening day roster:

    Gardner – CF
    Nunez – SS
    Ichiro – RF
    Cano – 2b
    Youk – 1b
    Hafner – DH
    Wells – LF
    Mustelier – 3b
    Cervelli – C

    Bench: Nix, Francisco, Stewart, Boesch

    Rotation:
    CC
    Kuroda
    Andy
    Nova
    Phelps

    RHP: Aardsma, Kelley, Joba, Robertson, Rivera
    LHP: Logan, Nuno

    that means the Yankees have to create spots on the 40 man roster for Nix, Mustelier, Wells and Francisco

  143. Captain Clutch March 24th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    The Angels better be paying $32m of the $42 owed to Wells. Otherwise this move doesn’t make any sense. Instead of paying 5 different players $2m each they should have just signed Swisher. Cashman really messed up in the off season and signing all these players that teams don’t want to fill the one spot isn’t working.

  144. mick March 24th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    jeter might not be back for awhile .

  145. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Still doesn’t solve the corner IF, questions right now. I thought OF wise we were fine.
    ———————-

    Still a week to go, more moves can be made.

  146. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Create 4 spots on 40?
    Tex to 60
    Pineda to 60

    What else?

  147. RadioKev March 24th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    @JeffPassan: Yankees official: “I just wonder where this money was in December.” So do a lot of others.
    ——

    Could have put all of this money into 1 quality player instead of 5 crappy ones.
    ——–

    This is the thing. I think adding Vernon Wells will make this roster better, but, this roster could be even better if we actually paid a good player a few months ago.

    We’re stuck in the middle and it’s an ugly place to be. Leadership is lost.

  148. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Also the report of 34 million to the yankees may be overblown according to passan.
    I can see the yankees somehow taking on like 20 mil. Honestly would rather have Alfonso soriano than wells.
    —————-
    I think Soriano in Yankee stadium LF would be a nightmare.

  149. Captain Clutch March 24th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Buster Olney ?

    For those asking: The Yankees wouldn’t do the Wells deal unless LAA eat a ton of money. If deal finished, they’ll try him, see if he helps.

  150. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    JMills – Looks like we got a former Jay

  151. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Chip, soriano in lf is bad but Vernon wells is good?

  152. tucker March 24th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    For Hal, There must be a Hermosa Beach condo and hangar space at an LA-area general aviation airport for a Wells trade to make any sense for the Yankees.

  153. blake March 24th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Get as many has beens as possible and hope they voltron into a decent player….,sounds like a plan

  154. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Create 4 spots on 40?
    Tex to 60
    Pineda to 60

    What else?
    ————

    Pineda’s already on the 60 – was moved there when the Yankees signed Boesch.

    Cabral, Garnderson and Tex to the 60 (retroactive)

    DFA Eppley?

  155. pkyankfan69 March 24th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Chip,

    Rivera is going to play first, Youk 3B, and Musty bench if he even gets a spot.

    When in doubt, Yanks go old.

  156. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Aardsma being showcased?

  157. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Won’t move granderson to 60 because he can possibly be back before June…

  158. Bronx Jeers March 24th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    This place blows up if Musty is in the deal.

    ————————-

    I would actually be ecstatic. For Mustullier of course.

  159. UnKnown March 24th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Halo fans are jacked about the possibility of finally getting rid of Wells. Like rioting in the streets happy.

  160. Captain Clutch March 24th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    I wonder if the Yanks think that Kevin Long can help Wells. I find it hard to believe that he totally forgot how to hit a baseball. As long as they don’t pay a lot in prospects and money it doesn’t hurt to take a look.

  161. Captain Clutch March 24th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Scott Miller

    Sources: Vernon Wells to the #Yankees deal is close enough that Yanks are examining Wells medicals. #Angels

  162. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Chip, soriano in lf is bad but Vernon wells is good?
    ———–

    Not good, but better.

    Plus, I don’t think Soriano would accept the bench role that he would have to take when Granderson comes off the DL; Wells on the other hand might.

  163. RadioKev March 24th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    pkyankfan69 March 24th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
    Chip,

    Rivera is going to play first, Youk 3B, and Musty bench if he even gets a spot.

    When in doubt, Yanks go old.
    ———

    Yeah, the “when in doubt go Andy Phillips” mantra is way sexier!

    That’s your other side of the coin.

  164. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    I still feel like the yankees are going to give up something we feel is valuable in this deal.

  165. Carlo March 24th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    One has to wonder if cashman and /or Hal is legitimately highjacking the team. Hoping to make the environment so bad cano takes another deal and they don’t have to pay him and can sell to the fans that cano didn’t want to be a yankee.

  166. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    I was wrong – Yankees will have to open 5 spots on the 40 – Nuno’s not on it.

  167. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Could see warren losing his spot now that we resigned wang

  168. Niblick March 24th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Musty and CoJo for old Vernon Wells.

  169. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    I still feel like the yankees are going to give up something we feel is valuable in this deal.
    —————-

    That’s because we tend to overvalue Yankee prospects. Though if they give up anyone who has played above Charleston I would be shocked.

  170. RadioKev March 24th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 7m
    Why not A. Soriano for #Yankees? Most likely because #Cubs want actual value for eating bulk of remaining $36M. #Angels can’t be as picky.
    ——

    Give em Adam Warren and be done. Maybe it will go as well as the Mitchell trade.

  171. ac1 March 24th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Nix isn’t on the 40 either

  172. Core four March 24th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Ok , first time poster long time LoHoud reader….big fan of comments by Doreen, Blake, Luis, Chip just to name a few. This Wells news is crazy, I am officially on the fire Cashman train. Old retreads that fans cannot get excited about is the new Yankees roster. Miss George and the stick!

  173. Yankee Trader March 24th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Per Olney

    Vernon Wells is said by a teammate to be excited about the possibility of a trade to the Yankees. ‘Strong chance’ it happens, source said.

  174. Cashmoney March 24th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Vernon Wells is one of worst offensive performer for the past two years. I haven’t seen much of his play last two year. Yanks scouts must seen something they like in ST… this is just sad.

  175. Chip March 24th, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Wells is playing well this spring (which is meaningless)

  176. mick March 24th, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    The Legend of Musty Grows.

  177. Cashmoney March 24th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    I definitely would DFA Eppley, basically a replacement pitcher.

  178. Cashmoney March 24th, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    I think Warren has the potential to be inning eating 4-5th starter, his repertoire is pretty decent from what I seen. Matter of fact, there are few similarities in terms of statute and stuff btw him and Phelps. Except, Phelps commands his pitchers better.

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