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Roster odds and ends: Rivera, Banuelos and the 60-day disabled list

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 25, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just a few roster nuggets for those interested in such things.

• Because of service time and the type of minor league contract Juan Rivera signed, the Yankees have until tomorrow to either release him or give him a $100,000 retention bonus which lets the Yankees keep Rivera on his minor league deal through Opening Day. I was told they don’t have to guarantee him a big league roster spot tomorrow, but they have to pay a significant amount of money if they’re going to keep him for the next week. In other words, there’s significant incentive to let Rivera go if the Yankees aren’t planning to carry him on Opening Day.

• None of the other guys in Yankees camp on minor league deals — Ben Francisco, Bobby Wilson, Dan Johnson, etc. — qualify for that $100,000 retention situation. Matt Diaz did, but he’s already gone.

• I was told today that the Yankees are not allowed to backdate a 60-day disabled list assignment for either Curtis Granderson or Mark Teixeira. In other words, they can’t put Granderson the 60-day retroactive to the day he was hurt and activate him on May 1. Putting either of those two on the 60-day would essentially guarantee that they miss the first two months of the season. I was told those two, “are not 60-day candidates.”

• Sounds like Cesar Cabral will be the next player placed on the 60-day to open a 40-man spot.

• Another player who is not a 60-day candidate is Manny Banuelos. He’s lost for the season because of last year’ s Tommy John surgery, but the Yankees will not 60-day him because it would start his major league clock. In the past, they’ve had no choice but to 60-day some minor leaguers who were hurt while in big league camp — that happened with Colin Curtis a few years ago — but Banuelos was added to the 40-man strictly for Rule 5 protection and was already hurt when camp started. He’ll spend the year on the minor league disabled list. Even if the Yankees badly need a 40-man spot this year, Banuelos will not go on the 60-day. “It’s not happening,” I was told.

• Derek Jeter got treatment today, nothing else.

• Based on a handful of conversations, I’m not expecting the Vernon Wells trade to be official until tomorrow. Still don’t know who’s going to Anaheim in the deal. Good work by my friend Mark Feinsand outlining how the trade might actually help the Yankees stay below the $189 threshold next season.

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106 Responses to “Roster odds and ends: Rivera, Banuelos and the 60-day disabled list”

  1. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    “Good work by my friend Mark Feinsand outlining how the trade might actually help the Yankees stay below the $189 threshold next season.”

    Lol, Chad, your good friend had to credit Jerkface on Twitter for the tip. Incidentally, are media members encouraged to read the CBA or do you guys just rely on a few sources to tease that info out?

  2. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Holy crap some bombshells in this post. No Tex or Granderson on the 60 day DL and no Banuelos (as I said!) means … some guys that we like are getting cut or maybe some guys we don’t!

    Cabral for Wells
    Eppley for X.

    Thats it!

  3. Tyler March 25th, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Jerkface 2016.

  4. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    And it seems to me you’ve lived your life like a prospect in the wind.. never clinging to a roster spot when the chance came in.. <3 Musty.

  5. Tyler March 25th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Can’t imagine that the Yanks are going to spend $100,000 just to extend Rivera’s minor league deal. He might be gone. That would be great…. Youk at 1B, Mustelier at 3B. Best Yanks infield in my opinion. I really like what Mustelier has brought this spring… Hopefully it carries up north.

  6. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Given what Chad’s said about Banuelos, Tex and Granderson I don’t see how they can get any of the guys we’ve been arguing about on the 40 man roster.

    Figure when Wells arrives Cabral goes on the 60 – that’s it.

    You’ve got:
    Nix
    Nuno
    Rivera or Mustelier
    and Francisco

    So does this mean that instead of taking Nix, Rivera and Francisco the Yankees take Joseph, Mesa and Boesch or do they cut actually useful players?

  7. astrocityfan March 25th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Are they really giving anybody up for the albatross, i mean wells? If they give up an outfield prospect, i am seriously done for the year.

  8. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    “Good work by my friend Mark Feinsand outlining how the trade might actually help the Yankees stay below the $189 threshold next season.”

    lol!

  9. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Holy crap some bombshells in this post. No Tex or Granderson on the 60 day DL and no Banuelos (as I said!) means … some guys that we like are getting cut or maybe some guys we don’t!

    Cabral for Wells
    Eppley for X.

    Thats it!
    ————–

    Right – figure Eppley for either Rivera, Mustelier or Nix. After that – unless they make a 2 for 1 deal for a first baseman (Adam Warren and Nik Turley for Garrett Jones?) they’re stuck.

  10. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    I would like Youk at 1b and Mustelier at 3b versus LHP

    And the Youk at 3b and LH 1b versus RHP

  11. Tyler March 25th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Chip March 25th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Holy crap some bombshells in this post. No Tex or Granderson on the 60 day DL and no Banuelos (as I said!) means … some guys that we like are getting cut or maybe some guys we don’t!

    Cabral for Wells
    Eppley for X.

    Thats it!
    ————–

    Right – figure Eppley for either Rivera, Mustelier or Nix. After that – unless they make a 2 for 1 deal for a first baseman (Adam Warren and Nik Turley for Garrett Jones?) they’re stuck.
    ——————————————————————-

    It has to be Mustelier or Nix… At least I keep telling myself it will be Mustelier.

  12. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Face -

    When they DFA Almonte and Adams for Juan Rivera and Jayson Nix I might fly to Tampa to deliver a poop sandwich to Cashman’s office.

  13. Oscar Madison March 25th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Stole the ‘Jerk’s’ thunder. LOL !

  14. pinstripes7 March 25th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    I’d throw in David Wells for Vernon Wells, but everyone else is off limits.

  15. Oscar Madison March 25th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    They won’t dump Nix with Jeter slated to open the season on the DL

  16. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Corban Joseph has played poorly, but Nix hasn’t really played well and Joseph is on the 40 man roster…they could just take him instead of Nix and then also take Boesch and Mesa giving the Yankees a bench of Joseph, Boesch, Mesa and Stewart with either Rivera or Mustelier in the lineup.

  17. blake March 25th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    @mikeaxisa: No 60-day DL for Teixeira and Granderson, huh? 40-man will be a nightmare. NYY is going to lose Mesa or Joseph for nothing.

  18. blake March 25th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Chad,

    You realize Jerkface actually told Feinstein all that stuff…..he didnt know any of that

  19. Nilsson March 25th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Everyone was apoplectic last night about the $13M and the $3.5M per year LT hit. Then Sherman mentioned in his tweet that it was mostly being paid out this season to maintain the ’14 payroll goal. Then people started changing tunes, especially here. Doesn’t Sherman get credit?

  20. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Nix was going to be on the team unless the Yankees decided that Cano is going to play nearly every game and Nunez could take the other games at 2B.

    The 4 backups were probably going to be Nix, Nunez, 2nd C, 4th OF.

  21. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    blake March 25th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    @mikeaxisa: No 60-day DL for Teixeira and Granderson, huh? 40-man will be a nightmare. NYY is going to lose Mesa or Joseph for nothing.
    —————-

    I really hope it doesn’t come to that – either they dump a reliever or two (Aardsma and Eppley) or they do a 2 for 1 deal to clear some spots or they take Mesa and Joseph

  22. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    blake March 25th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    @mikeaxisa: No 60-day DL for Teixeira and Granderson, huh? 40-man will be a nightmare. NYY is going to lose Mesa or Joseph for nothing.

    —————

    So… more good news, then? :|

  23. rm March 25th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    FWIW Cott’s has listed the Angels 2013 payroll obligation to Wells as 9 MM$ and 2014 as 20 MM$ not sure if this is a guess based on thhe info JF has posted or if they have real information. Congrats to JF for breaking this info to the media.

  24. blake March 25th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    The Yanks love to give away useful pieces for nothing on the 40 man to make room for used parts

  25. pinstripes7 March 25th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Mustelier has ‘hitter’ written all over him, plus he looks like a pure hustler. They’d be nuts to leave him off.

  26. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Pretty sure Cots based that on the NY Daily News article. Nilsson, Sherman gets no credit because he incorrectly stated how the CBA works and splitting up Cash Considerations has already been explained by me regarding Alfonso Soriano.

    Kiss the ring!

  27. Tyler March 25th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    The thing that even adds to the frustration was all the added information about Tex’s injury… it seems like it could linger for a while and be a problem. Missing the first 2 months of the season might not be that far off for his injury… now they are just going to lose what could be a valuable player for nothing.

  28. astrocityfan March 25th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Why not put Tex on the 60 day? I just dont see how he will be back any sooner. he is probably going to need surgery anyway.

  29. Nilsson March 25th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    I thought I read something about $3.5M per year LT hit. Or did I misread it?

  30. fantasygame101 March 25th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    With wang and marshall and probably turley, they should just trade warren. Warren will not be useful to the Yankees with his straight fastball. Joseph will be a casualty.

  31. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Also I posted a cash considerations break down 3 hours before Sherman’s tweet, suck it media.

  32. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    How I would make space:

    1. Release Chris Stewart – Austin Romine can’t be any worse than Stewart and has a chance to be much better.

    2. Release (or trade) Eppley and Aardsma – even without the two of them you still have:

    Joba, Robertson, Kelley, Phelps, Rivera as major league right handed relief options with Warren in the minors

  33. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Jerkface March 24th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    Hey guys,

    Here is how the AAV is handled for the luxury tax.

    Vernon Wells contract = 7/126, so counts as 18 AAV. Angels trade Vernon Wells and 34 million to the Yankees split into 2 parts (X + Y = 34 million).

    Yankees Luxury Tax Budget for 2013
    Vernon Wells +18 million
    Angels Cash Compensation -X

    Yankees Luxury Tax Budget for 2014
    Vernon Wells +18 million
    Angels Cash Compensation -Y

    Angels Luxury Tax Budget for 2013
    Vernon Wells -18 million
    Cash Compensation +X

    Angels Luxury Tax Budget for 2014
    Vernon Wells -18 million
    Cash compensation +Y

    X and Y do not have to be equal. The Angels could kick in 18 million in 2014 and the Yankees would pay ‘nothing’ for Vernon Wells that season when it comes to the luxury tax, while still actually paying him about 3 million or whatever the remainder is.

  34. Chip March 25th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    astrocityfan March 25th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Why not put Tex on the 60 day? I just dont see how he will be back any sooner. he is probably going to need surgery anyway.
    ————-

    That too.

  35. Oscar Madison March 25th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    ‘You realize Jerkface actually told Feinstein all that stuff…..he didnt know any of that’

    —————

    Yet then ‘MF’ still had to call MLB to confirm before printing his story

  36. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Just to make sure I understand the WBC money right, those dollars only count as real dollars and don’t factor in when calculating the actual annual payroll in 2013, correct?

  37. Tyler March 25th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Never going to hear the end of this from JF.

  38. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Just to make sure I understand the WBC money right, those dollars only count as real dollars and don’t factor in when calculating the actual annual payroll in 2013, correct?

    They’re just money that gets paid to the Yankees, not payroll deductions. Its like A-rod’s insurance. The Yankees are still eating it on the luxury tax end but they aren’t actually paying the money. Good for HAL, not good for the fans.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/.....ler-66171/

    The Yankees promoted Billy Eppler to assistant GM this past offseason, a significant move in the sense that it created at least the appearances of a line of succession for GM Brian Cashman. Eppler chatted with Shelley DuBois of CNN Money about a variety of topics recently, including the scouting process and what he’s learned from Cashman.
    “Brian Cashman has taught me so much about not reacting too soon,” said Eppler. “I’ve learned that time and patience are extremely powerful weapons when used right … I look to Brian and I almost marvel at how he balances when it’s the right time to make a change and when it’s the right time to let a player sort himself out.”

  40. Tyler March 25th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/…..ler-66171/

    The Yankees promoted Billy Eppler to assistant GM this past offseason, a significant move in the sense that it created at least the appearances of a line of succession for GM Brian Cashman. Eppler chatted with Shelley DuBois of CNN Money about a variety of topics recently, including the scouting process and what he’s learned from Cashman.
    “Brian Cashman has taught me so much about not reacting too soon,” said Eppler. “I’ve learned that time and patience are extremely powerful weapons when used right … I look to Brian and I almost marvel at how he balances when it’s the right time to make a change and when it’s the right time to let a player sort himself out.”
    ———————————————————————–

    Oh lord….

  41. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Thanks JF, that’s what I figured.

  42. blake March 25th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Eppler has done a nice job scouting and finding some of these retreads that have contributed the last couple of years…..but from everything I’ve heard and read he’s basically Cashman jr…..they need a different voice ….a different opinion to go along with what’s already there.

  43. astrocityfan March 25th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    JF should crow for a while. It’s not everyday a national story gets updated from the blog. Good work sir!

  44. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Not much of an interview.

    Eppler was the prime mover in Joba being made a full-time reliever.

  45. Chad Jennings March 25th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 3:41 pm e
    “Good work by my friend Mark Feinsand outlining how the trade might actually help the Yankees stay below the $189 threshold next season.”

    Lol, Chad, your good friend had to credit Jerkface on Twitter for the tip. Incidentally, are media members encouraged to read the CBA or do you guys just rely on a few sources to tease that info out?

    I’ve read the CBA, but I don’t trust myself to understand it. I’ve been emailing back and forth with a few people at MLB today to make sure it works the way I think it does, but my go-to guy on CBA stuff is in meetings today and other people I’ve talked to said they weren’t sure how the AAV would be counted in this situation. Mark had it locked down with league sources before I did, so I linked to him.

    If Jerkface pointed him in the right direction, that’s awesome. It should really come as no surprise that baseball writers aren’t necessarily experts in contract language. Even the vast majority of MLB executives have to check with their own contract specialists before knowing exactly how this stuff works. For most of us, it’s damn confusing most of the time.

  46. theREALkevin March 25th, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Overall this is shaping up to be the least exciting Yankee season in a while…. I mean there is really almost nothing to get amped up about

  47. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Kiss the ring!

    lol, don’t get too c0cky. You read the CBA (and understand it), so have I, and others. Credit for correcting Feinsand though.

  48. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Baseball writers write about baseball, not really the business of baseball. Though with the 189 goal and the new CBA I’m surprised none of the NYY beat writers decided to carve out a niche in that area and get really acclimated, since you can learn most of what you need to know by reading the CBA. And of course can then verify it with MLB sources, which I do not have the luxury to do since the commish office blows me off all the time.

  49. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    lol, don’t get too c0cky. You read the CBA (and understand it), so have I, and others. Credit for correcting Feinsand though.

    One thing this news does confirm is that traded players maintain the AAV of the full contract, which was never really in doubt but never outright confirmed.

    Justin Upton would have been mighty fine at 8 aav…

  50. Eric in the ATL March 25th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Release Eppley. He’s been awful this spring and wasn’t good down the stretch last year. The Indians just released Matt Capps. He might be worth a flyer.

    And please say adios to Juan Rivera. He’s been mediocre his entire career. I’d rather take a chance on someone who might surprise us.

  51. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Thanks for the info Chad, I was genuinely curious if you had a few sources you trusted on this stuff or if you guys comb through the related articles and ask your lawyer-type friends for language clarifications.

    I don’t really expect the writers to understand all of the details but there’s a considerable amount of incorrect reporting that is done regularly as it relates to the CBA. I would think a common cause is one writer making a statement related to how the CBA breaks down with the others following suit assuming he did his homework.

  52. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
    http://riveraveblues.com/2012/…..ler-66171/

    The Yankees promoted Billy Eppler to assistant GM this past offseason

    For all my Office fans out there, this reminds me of Dwight always calling himself the Assistant Regional Manger and having to be corrected to the Assistant to the Regional Manager, which is a nothing position :)

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Cashman played baseball in college, but his background is administration — a specialty of his assistant general manager, Jean Afterman. He does not consider himself a scout and relies heavily on Eppler to coordinate opinions and prioritize targets in free agency and trades.

    The result has not always been a better flow of talent. The Yankees have had notable failures lately, including Wilson Betemit, LaTroy Hawkins and Kei Igawa. Other additions, like Bobby Abreu, Brian Bruney and José Molina, have worked.

    Most notable, perhaps, is the volume of low-risk, high-reward players Yankees scouts have found under Eppler. Relievers like Bruney, Dan Giese, Edwar Ramírez and José Veras were signed as free agents, and all pitched well last season.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03.....&_r=0

    If Cash gets the hook, Eppler gets the bump up. Not much gained there.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    And…

    “Those moves might have seemed obvious, but they will be a significant test considering the money involved. More than ever, Cashman is banking on the opinions of Eppler and his staff.

    “We’re running a baseball business,” Cashman said, “and I’d like to think we’re running it better than most.””
    ////

    Crap.

  55. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Another thing that sort of annoyed me, and I guess it had to come down to where the Yanks were on the waiver wire, but the A’s picked up a 6’8″ 1b who hit very well in AA last season on the waiver wire. It just feels like sometimes the low risk, high-reward types the Yanks pickup are not the same as other orgs sometimes.

  56. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Don’t be surprised if they are interested in Overbay if he becomes available.

  57. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Jerkface,

    You have been far ahead of the media and perhaps the Yankees for a long time on financial ramifications. As a skeptic by profession, I am impressed. Good thinking and analysis.

  58. Wave Your Hat March 25th, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Very clever of the Yanks, but the downside, which outweighs all the cleverness, is that they now have Vernon Wells.

  59. blake March 25th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    @jnorris427: Spoke briefly with Austin, Tony Franklin and trainer Scott DiFrancesco. All say Austin is OK, just being careful. Doubt he plays tomorrow.

  60. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Wave,

    Not only do they have Wells, but they are paying him a bunch of money. That means he will play a lot. You can bank on Cashman making sure of it.

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Billy Eppler-” Yeah, not not to get too ahead of ourselves there– you know, I don’t think Joe has quite anointed him the eight inning guy right now. And I understand that there would be beliefs and that a lot of people would think that he should be in that role. I think obviously, you know, even with the good outing today he’s got to demonstrate the ability to hold that role. But I think there are some other guys are pen that are that are capable of that as well, so it’s kind of nice problem to have, for lack of a better word. With Joba though, I do believe he could (emphasis his) be a starter. You know, I think just in the environment that we’re in, and you know, you’re trying to break with with the twelve best. And that’s not to say the other clubs aren’t trying to do that. I think if we were in a different setting, different situation, you might see Joba Chamberlain in the rotation.”

    Evan Roberts-” Yeah! You know, honestly, I think like every other team he may be, besides the Yankees the Red Sox. I mean he’d probably be in the rotation he’s got a great arm, it’s just that you guys are so deep. You know, when you when you can go and have Javier Vasquez is your fourth starter. That’s as — as deep as anybody. Is there a situation where he starts again this year? I’m under the assumption that, he’s the eighth inning guy, and that’s it. The Joba debate is over. He’s a reliever. I know he could start for a few teams, I mean, he could start for my team, the Mets…”

    Billy Eppler-” Yeah — in the here and now, I don’t feel I don’t foresee any situation. I mean, obviously that’s for Brian and Joe, but but I don’t think they (emphasis his) foresee a situation where he would go into the rotation. He is going to be a reliever. And obviously we’ve seen what he’s been able to do and role, and he’s been able to be very dominant in that role — I don’t foresee situation where he would be be starting at all.
    ///

    So, this is the decision that set the tone for other decisions that brought us….here.

    And there’s a good chance this guy is the next GM.

    Not good.

  62. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
    And…

    “Those moves might have seemed obvious, but they will be a significant test considering the money involved. More than ever, Cashman is banking on the opinions of Eppler and his staff.

    “We’re running a baseball business,” Cashman said, “and I’d like to think we’re running it better than most.””
    ////

    Crap

    ———————-

    Oh yea they are joined at the hip

    Brian Cashman hobbles on crutches out the door of his first-floor condo each morning, where a member of the highest-profile rotation of chauffeurs in the city awaits. The destination is George M. Steinbrenner Field, where Cashman watches over one of the most troubled teams of his tenure as the Yankees general manager.

    His driver is usually assistant general manager Billy Eppler.

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._down.html

  63. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Blake,

    Thanks for forwarding the Norris info. Thank goodness.

  64. blake March 25th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    I get that writers aren’t lawyers and aren’t going to know every in and out of the CBA….but for a long time many didnt even get that the luxury tax was calculated off AAV…..

  65. blake March 25th, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    @jnorris427: Austin said he slightly re-aggravated the L ankle injury from last year. #yankees

  66. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    If the Yankees got a new GM, that would mean the team was bad and attendance down. I think ownership might think a big name GM would prompt excitement.

  67. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    The article I posted was that posted on the blog at any point yesterday?

  68. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    The writers still talk as if the Yankees can spend up to $189M and stay under the cap. These are news stories that need to be covered accurately.

  69. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    @jnorris427: Spoke briefly with Austin, Tony Franklin and trainer Scott DiFrancesco. All say Austin is OK, just being careful. Doubt he plays tomorrow.

    Take the rest of the week of Austin, you have earned it :) What a relief!!

  70. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    The writers still talk as if the Yankees can spend up to $189M and stay under the cap. These are news stories that need to be covered accurately.

    yea I wouldn’t mind if beat writers didn’t talk about this stuff, but when they do reference it I’d like the information to be accurate. They never really had to worry about it before, the luxury tax was a throwaway line after every big FA signing or a fluff piece at the end of the year. Now it matters.

  71. Bucky March 25th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Chip wrote:

    How I would make space:

    1. Release Chris Stewart – Austin Romine can’t be any worse than Stewart and has a chance to be much better.

    2. Release (or trade) Eppley and Aardsma – even without the two of them you still have:

    Joba, Robertson, Kelley, Phelps, Rivera as major league right handed relief options with Warren in the minors
    _________________

    I’m with you on option 2, but dumping Stewart and leaving only two catchers on your 40 man is extremely risky. In the event of an injury, you’d have to make an emergency 40 man move to bring up a backup catcher.

  72. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Going back over Norris’s comments, Flores is hitting them to leff CF, which is opposite field!!!

  73. Sir Harden Thick March 25th, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    astrocityfan says:
    March 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    Why not put Tex on the 60 day? I just dont see how he will be back any sooner. he is probably going to need surgery anyway.

    _____________________________________________________

    They should. I think we all know what will happen.
    Tex waits 2 months..
    Say he is fine.
    Plays in rehab game.
    Has setback.
    Out for another 2 month.
    Rehab game again.
    Setback
    Out for year

  74. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    The GM, whoever it might be, seems like a role that will only serve to play mouthpiece for the owners/Levine. I dunno when the GM role started looking more like a PR position but that’s the tone it’s taken over the last 2-3 seasons with Cash.

  75. UnKnown March 25th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    No GLove take on any of this yet?

    What gets me is how 95% of the people who post here get what is going on and have been for a long time (the other 5% are just clueless about life in general), but the people who are paid big bucks as this is their job are left scrambling one week before the season starts.

    People who post on a blog in their free time can see it so clearly but the FO couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Just disgusting.

  76. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    @NotHankStein 1m

    What you don’t know is Hal & I got #Yankees 2013 plan watching The Producers! A flop is more profitable than a hit! #SpringtimeForHitless

    Lol..

  77. joeman March 25th, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    with some luck Wells has a problem with the physical

  78. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    The article I posted was that posted on the blog at any point yesterday?
    ///

    I don’t know about that, but thanks for posting it here. Good read.

  79. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    UnKnown March 25th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
    No GLove take on any of this yet?

    What gets me is how 95% of the people who post here get what is going on and have been for a long time (the other 5% are just clueless about life in general), but the people who are paid big bucks as this is their job are left scrambling one week before the season starts.

    People who post on a blog in their free time can see it so clearly but the FO couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Just disgusting.

    ——————————

    It’s not just on here but other boards/blogs as well. Guys like Francesa sight the new CBA while says on forums sight how the team is handcuffed by large contracts. The team has been talking about cutting payroll for yrs. Did some ppl not notice that since 09 a number of their in season acquisitions involve the opposing team eating a chunk of the money. This just didn’t come out of nowhere

  80. ac1 March 25th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    A number that needs updating, in light of Jeter absence: Yankees expected to open season w/out players who hit 201 of their 245 HR in 2012.
    ___

    The implication with this comment everyday annoys me a lot. THESE PLAYERS WERE REPLACED!!!! its not like now we will only hit 40 homeruns.
    Youk can hit homeruns, so can Hafner, so can Vernon Wells. Granderson will be back in May, Jeter in April.

    We lost some power but lets be real. Granderson hit .225 last year and K’d 200 times. Martin hit under .200 90% of the season. Ichiro will hit for higher avg than swisher did. gardner, ichiro, nunez can all steal bases (something we did not have last year).

    The world is not ending like people make it sound. We hit 245 homeruns and didnt make the world series. The giants had no offense and won. We need smart hitters, not 9 all of nothings.

  81. ac1 March 25th, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    They should. I think we all know what will happen.
    Tex waits 2 months..
    Say he is fine.
    Plays in rehab game.
    Has setback.
    Out for another 2 month.
    Rehab game again.
    Setback
    Out for year
    __

    Is there any doubt this is what will happen?
    Not for me.

  82. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    @NotHankStein 1m

    What you don’t know is Hal & I got #Yankees 2013 plan watching The Producers! A flop is more profitable than a hit! #SpringtimeForHitless
    ///

    Aha! That great pearl of wisdom some here keep insisting will drop! LOL.

  83. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
    Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    The article I posted was that posted on the blog at any point yesterday?
    ///

    I don’t know about that, but thanks for posting it here. Good read.

    ———————–

    No problem. Just didn’t want to start posting quotes that were already posted. This one stood out to me

    In turn, Cashman laughed off the notion that the Yankees needed to reclaim their spending crown from the Dodgers.

    “My job,” he said, “is to put a team out there that wins for the least amount of money possible.”

    Yet, of course, there is the specter of The Boss.

    “But I said ‘win’ first.”

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    “Carly” :D

    Flores has power and I expect there’s going to be more where that came from.

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    …expect him to be traded.

  86. CompassRosy March 25th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Shannon Drayer ?@shannondrayer 15m
    Broken bat infield single for Montero!

    ===

    Shannon Drayer ?@shannondrayer 12m
    @DCameronFG Pig just flew by…

    ==

    David Cameron ?@DCameronFG 13m
    Cats, dogs, hell, snow. RT @shannondrayer: Broken bat infield single for Montero!

    :)

  87. bruceb March 25th, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Have the Yankees done a major climbdown on StubHub or is Lon Tross talking through his ass on Francesa right now?

  88. Bronx Jeers March 25th, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Long Trost is on with Francesca now talking about stubhub. This is something interesting that I did not know…

    The stubhub “lockout” ends 48 hours before game time. So you can do print at home but only if you buy them within 48 hours of game time.

  89. joeman March 25th, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    no doubt from me that youkilis hit the DL once or twice this year and jeter plays in less than 100 games

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    No problem. Just didn’t want to start posting quotes that were already posted. This one stood out to me

    In turn, Cashman laughed off the notion that the Yankees needed to reclaim their spending crown from the Dodgers.

    “My job,” he said, “is to put a team out there that wins for the least amount of money possible.”

    Yet, of course, there is the specter of The Boss.

    “But I said ‘win’ first.”
    ///

    He needs a muzzle.

    Odds, regarding things being posted more than once, I don’t think it really applies to this place that once is enough.

    Not like PSD where something remains in a static thread. Here, the thing rolls forward, obliterating what preceded it, which is probably why so much disingenuousness doesn’t get properly exposed here.

    If someone posted it, I sure didn’t see it – we’re not all in here at once and we don’t all always read backwards.

    I must have posted that Eppler thing about Joba at least four or five times, and people were still saying, oh, I didn’t know that, etc. It doesn’t do me any good if someone else saw it, but I didn’t, you know? Keep linkin’ :)

  91. bruceb March 25th, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Or even Lon Trost…

  92. UnKnown March 25th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    On a much more pleasant note, I am really loving what the team from FGCU is doing in tournament. What a fun team to follow and get to know. That is what it is all about.

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Bronx Jeers March 25th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    Long Trost is on with Francesca now talking about stubhub. This is something interesting that I did not know…

    The stubhub “lockout” ends 48 hours before game time. So you can do print at home but only if you buy them within 48 hours of game time.
    ///

    That’s interesting, Bronx, thanks.

  94. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    CompassRosy March 25th, 2013 at 5:12 pm
    Shannon Drayer ?@shannondrayer 15m
    Broken bat infield single for Montero!
    ///

    Thanks. Hope he’s DH’ing today?

  95. bruceb March 25th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    One minute the Yanks say they are not honoring e-tickets. Now they say they are. And you can still buy and print StubHub tickets from 48 hours to three hours before a game. This seems like a change in policy to me?

  96. FanSince1948 March 25th, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    I would just love to see Wells have a monster year, leading the Yanks into the playoffs. Sure would cause a lot of red faces around here.

    (I’d love to see it, but I ain’t sure it’s gonna happen)

  97. mick March 25th, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    I am really loving what the team from FGCU is doing in
    ============================
    how can you not like a team called fgcu?

  98. CompassRosy March 25th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    ///

    Thanks. Hope he’s DH’ing today?

    ===

    Nope – he’s catching.
    Took an assist from OF’er Wells to nail a runner at the plate …
    guess his “woozieness” is behind him ;)

  99. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    “Still don’t know who’s going to Anaheim in the deal.”

    Someone good has to be coming to NY with Wells.

  100. Section 8 March 25th, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    I heard the strange Francesa-Trost discussion. Doesn’t help that Mike doesn’t seem to understand how it works, and I’m not totally sure Trost does either. Trost started talking about the need for families to forward tix and print at home, but you do that through the Yankees.com acct not Stubhub or Ticketmaster. You need TM or SH only if money is being exchanged.

    There’s clearly been a change in policy. I think they realized the move to the Yankee Ticket Exchange/Ticketmaster is a huge disadvantage to season ticket holders (like me) because nobody knows about it, there’s no natural traffic to the site. Stubhub is the market leader, that’s where people go to buy on the secondary market. Yankee Ticket Exchange? How do I find that? Not really that hard, but people are lazy. And Stubhub is a better user experience, and they take paypal, which the YTE inexplicably does not.

    Something has definitely changed…

  101. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    Good point JAP. I never thought about it like that before. :D

    The Eppler article makes me cringe

  102. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Why should a mediocre GM have a role in choosing his successor?

  103. bruceb March 25th, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Thanks for enlightening me, Section 8. Either Tross was trying to cover up the Yankees’ backtracking re StubHub or he doesn’t know what the heck he is talking about.

  104. FiretheUMPIRE March 25th, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    Well the Yankees added a free righty OF/DH for 2014 plus a 2 million dollar credit. Vernon Wells was probably the best they were going to do. It’s a hedge against GM’s holding the Yankees hostage for cheap productive OF’s.

  105. J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    CompassRosy March 25th, 2013 at 5:32 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock March 25th, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    ///

    Thanks. Hope he’s DH’ing today?

    ===

    Nope – he’s catching.
    Took an assist from OF’er Wells to nail a runner at the plate …
    guess his “woozieness” is behind him
    ///

    Much thanks, Rosy :) Glad to hear our boy is feeling better.

  106. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    “Well the Yankees added a free righty OF/DH for 2014 plus a 2 million dollar credit. Vernon Wells was probably the best they were going to do. It’s a hedge against GM’s holding the Yankees hostage for cheap productive OF’s.”

    Getting a bad hitter hedges nothing, and if you are spending $13m to save $2m, your math probably sucks.


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