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Wang: “I’ll try everything I can”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 25, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Chien-Ming Wang is wearing a Yankees cap again.

Signed to a minor league contract late last week, Wang reported to the Yankees complex this morning for a light workout. He played catch in the outfield, fielded grounders off flat ground, then spoke to reporters about his return to the team that originally signed him back in 2000.

“It was an easy decision for me (to sign back with the Yankees) because I never wanted to leave,” Wang said. “… It’s like back in the day. This was my first team, this is where I started. I feel great.”

Wang said there were “four or five” teams interested in him, all looking into minor league deals. He pitched in the World Baseball Classic, but Wang said he’s only playing catch right now, getting up to 120 feet. He’s planning to throw a bullpen on Wednesday.

Although he knows he’s heading to Triple-A to start the season, Wang is hopeful that he’ll be in the majors before the end of the season.

“I’ll try everything I can,” he said. “Try to keep pitching and let them see.”

Associated Press photo

I tried to take video, but the sun made it awfully hard to get anything decent. Just trust me, Wang was throwing a baseball and catching a baseball. You’ve seen it a million times.

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275 Responses to “Wang: “I’ll try everything I can””

  1. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Yay Wang.

  2. Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Welcome back CMW. If he was indeed hitting 93 in the WBC, thats a good starting point. I bet we see him at some point this season

  3. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Remember those rumors last night that the Yanks were still trying to find a 1B or OFer..? I wonder if they’re going to try to move a starter to find it with Wang on board.

  4. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Thrilled that he’s back. Maybe the stars are aligned so that nothing but good can come out of this for Wang. I truly believe he’s earned his (pin)stripes.

    :)

  5. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    This has been a roller coaster weekend. The high from signing Wang; the nausea from wasting money and a roster spot on Wells after they refused to spend money on better and younger players for a couple of years.

  6. mick March 25th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Wang is another move, that the genius that is Hal, is planning for next year.
    You see he is planning in advance.
    Next year , if we are at total bare bones, at least we will have Wang to throw out there.

  7. Don March 25th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Nice to see Wang on board, but the Wells trade is an embarrassment to the franchise. I can’t believe that Cashman is that stupid and suspect that this was done by the suits in the office. I hope that the Steinbrenner’s sell the team and that a new staff is put in place.

  8. brianlopez22 March 25th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    mick –

    whether they play a game or play many.
    Win a game or win many.

    There is no direction to this debacle.
    There is nothing to root for this year.

    Mariano and Pettitte are going out to a team full of misfits (by the literal definition of the word).
    They don’t fit the clubs long term plans. Even if I have no idea what the long term plan is.
    No one does, and there is the problem.

    Are we simply filling the roster to finish a 162 game season? (Hopefully)
    Are we going to let the A+/AA/AAA future Yankees get their chance in the next 2 seasons? (I hope so)

    If the answer to either of these is No, then WHAT THE …. are they doing?
    There has been no direction for a long time now.
    In 2008, we said, at least we can fill some roster spots with key Free Agents while Cashman backfills the farm with talent.

    In 2013, we are still waiting for that talent and there is nothing to fill the spots with.

  9. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Welcome back

  10. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Sadly, I did not buy the lottery ticket at Eagle Liquor Store in Passaic.

  11. Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Heard they are keeping an eye on Lyle Overbay, who the Red Sox might cut. Don’t know how much Overbay can still hit, but he was always a very good defensive 1st baseman

  12. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Screw Overbay. Youk to 1B and Musty at 3B.

  13. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Sigh Scott Hatteberg

  14. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:04 am
    Why do Well’s ST stats matter if Ibanez’s didn’t…? This is just picking and choosing. Well’s stats over the last two full baseball seasons are more indicative of what we’ve gotten. A power bat that’s on it’s last leg.
    ———–

    Maybe it’s scouting too? I can’t say for sure, but there are reports saying Wells looks better this spring. Time will tell.

    At the end of the day, if he really sucks, someone else will take his place. It’s a fill in move, not a cornerstone move.

  15. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 11:16 am
    Heard they are keeping an eye on Lyle Overbay, who the Red Sox might cut. Don’t know how much Overbay can still hit, but he was always a very good defensive 1st baseman
    ——-

    Hey, are you going to finish that?

  16. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    This is $13m that could be offset against money they hope to save in the future or spent on someone like Cespedes or Soler.

    How Wells looks in ST means nothing.

  17. Mike Ri March 25th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKK !!!!!!

  18. Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    From Josh Norris down in Tampa:

    Josh Norris?@jnorris427
    So, yeah, Luis Severino is a name to remember. 92-96 FB, nice mid-80s SL, working a change

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    mick – thanks.

    austin – I’m of course totally out of answers but since I’ve learned in life that the legitimacy of an event isn’t always predicated upon my understanding of it, I do take the time to try to consider alternative explanations.

    That’s what I’m doing here.

  20. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    “Maybe it’s scouting too? I can’t say for sure, but there are reports saying Wells looks better this spring. Time will tell.

    At the end of the day, if he really sucks, someone else will take his place. It’s a fill in move, not a cornerstone move.”

    This.

  21. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    I emailed Mark Feinsand about the CBA, and he claims his source that he referenced on twitter last night was even confused about the CBA… Argh.

    It’s kind of lawyerese.

    If you cut out the 2016-17 stuff of that section it’s a little more clear.

    I didn’t see anything else where it says when/how the Angels would have to pay their part of the contract. It’s better for both the Yankees and Angels if more of it is paid on the back end (2014).

  22. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Jacksquat,

    We can use prior trades as an example. The Yankees paid 12 or so million of AJ Burnetts contract in 2012, and will pay 8.5 in 2013. So its up to the two teams to work that out.

  23. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Overbay ….another POS that would fit right in to this cast.

  24. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    I would trade Wells for AJ.

  25. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:27 am

    “At the end of the day, if he really sucks, someone else will take his place. It’s a fill in move, not a cornerstone move.”

    A fill in move that costs $18 million…? Really?

  26. FiretheUMPIRE March 25th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Ever get the feeling that close associations with Goldman Sachs suits have driven away throw-back type Yankees scouts and execs whose voices have been muzzled over the years and Cashman is last man standing?

  27. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    I hope that bat speed is coming from steroids.. it’d be the only way a guy that has been so bad the last 3 years would get good again.

  28. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Go, Wang!

    As for everything else that’s been going on for the last couple of days from acquiring Wells to preparing to choose the final three position players, all I have to say is “Yawn” and “SMH.” Just draw the line at trading away any prospective elite future pieces unless you get young, cost-controlled talent back, Cash. As for everything else, I’m past incredulity, and I don’t even have the heart to comment on any of this continuing madness. Dumpster on, and wake me up when the MiLB season starts.

  29. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Watched the Yankee game yesterday. I hope that was Not what we can expect to see outta Youk defensively at 3B. He was even bouncing routine throws over to 1B. As usual, it’s Nunez that catches your eye. Lotta talent, lotta desire.

  30. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    This is $13m that could be offset against money they hope to save in the future or spent on someone like Cespedes or Soler.

    How Wells looks in ST means nothing.

    —————–

    Cespedes’ $9 million AAV, smh.

  31. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Oh yeah Shame. I’m not saying there’s no reason to be incredulous about the trade. It’s totally mixed messages, it looks like ownership has no idea what they’re doing, etc.

    I’m just saying that in itself, the move isn’t horrific. It’s not like we’re actually trading Heathcott and Nuno for Wells. Adding Wells won’t lose the season for us, at this point.

    Apologist, maybe, but someone’s gotta be devil’s advocate :)

  32. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    You know who should be a fill-in move? A 28 year old Cuban named Musty, not a guy who has sucked for 4 out of the last 6 years.

  33. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Wells would be fine as a dumpster dive if he came in at league minimum…. do we need to wait for California to wake up before getting the numbers break down?

  34. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am

    “Just draw the line at trading away any prospective elite future pieces unless you get young, cost-controlled talent back, Cash.”
    ____
    LOL, as if…

  35. mick March 25th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    If all else fails, Youk will go to 1B with Musty to 3rd.
    Rivera will get cut and Francisco and Wells are the OF/DH combo.
    Send Boesch down.
    Somehow I feel there is more lunacy afoot before the opener.
    A LH 1B?

  36. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Should be interesting to see who the NYY ‘GIVE’ away to complete the Wells deal …..

  37. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:35 am

    They could be in such a panic this year that they could end up spending more on reach moves like Wells and others than they would have saved in taxes and rebates.

  38. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Does Wells even own a glove ? Or will he have to borrow one ?

  39. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Kev – It’s fine in a vacuum.. but that’s not how business management works. Wells looking better in meaningless at bats aside, is he going to be better than our DH numbers last year…? He’s not even at replacement level compared to a guy like Ibanez. He’s also not a lefty, so he won’t be taking advantage of the shortest porch in our stadium… and his splits favor LHP, which is not what we have a problem with (it’s RHP).

    I’d shrug the move off if it weren’t so indicative of the poor decision making we’ve seen the last 2 seasons. They sat on their hands for an entire off season when they could have gotten a much cheaper DH that would give you more production.

  40. Mike in Harrisburg March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    @Baby Ruth if it’s anyone I’ve even heard of I’ll be cheesed off.

  41. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    Rich, QFT. Unfortunately, they are just making it up as they go along.

  42. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    ‘Grrr! I wish we still had Jorge Vazquez!’

    Musty hasn’t proven anything in the majors yet. He very well could be a AAAA guy. If Mustelier legitimately outplays Wells, then I’d like to think he’ll get a spot. We’ll see what happens.

  43. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    ‘A LH 1B?’

    ———–

    Now introducing …………..(drum roll) …………. Lyle Overbay ! !

    Another one dimensional platoon guy ……..Oy Vey !

  44. mick March 25th, 2013 at 11:39 am

    This move for Wells makes him the everyday LF till Grandy comes back.
    If we indeed catch lightning in a bottle or he , at least, hits leftys, then make him the RH DH or platoon him with an OF who isn’t hitting leftys.
    The deal is done, try to make the best of it is all…

  45. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    If Mustelier legitimately outplays Wells, then I’d like to think he’ll get a spot. We’ll see what happens.

    How does he have to outplay him? And when? Spring training is nearly over.

  46. mick March 25th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    unfortunately a LH 1B could mean Musty is gone…

  47. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Mike in Harrisburg March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    It would be too much to ask to just suck up $ 13 million ….. :lol:

  48. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 11:40 am
    If Mustelier legitimately outplays Wells, then I’d like to think he’ll get a spot. We’ll see what happens.

    How does he have to outplay him? And when? Spring training is nearly over.
    ——-

    I dunno… isn’t Wells performing better in the meaningless games?

  49. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    JF, theoretically, if we are not misunderstanding this, if the Angels are paying 29 mil of what’s left, if they paid $0 in 2013 and all $29 mil in 2014, it could mean a 11 mil credit for 2014! I wonder what Bud would say to that.

  50. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    “Musty hasn’t proven anything in the majors yet.”

    No young player has. That’s what getting an opportunity is all about. Not every young player is a can’t miss. You have to live with growing pains, which beats the pain of watching a player like Wells.

  51. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Outplays Wells where..? Wells will never be in the field. And no way did they just acquire Wells to not play him.

    If anyone is going it’s gotta be Hafner.. I hope Musty still has a chance.

  52. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    There are 5 games left in spring training. If the Yankees are unconvinced by Musty’s play this spring then 4 or 5 games aren’t going to convince them. He has made a number of plays in the OF and at 3B. He is hitting over .300.

  53. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Just how much of a difference is there between Wells and Rivera? I’m Not talkin’ $$$ here, I’m talkin’ ability.

  54. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    If Mustelier legitimately outplays Wells, then I’d like to think he’ll get a spot. We’ll see what happens.

    ———-

    They aren’t paying him $ 13 million to watch Musty play while he sits. There is no time left for ST competition.

  55. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    This move for Wells makes him the everyday LF till Grandy comes back.

    —————

    God forbid…

  56. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    I know Mustelier is “young” in comparison to most of the team, but he ain’t “young” compared to the actual prospects he plays along side…

    I think Wells obviously has issues, but is Mustelier a better outfielder? Is he a better bat?

    I’m not advocating either guy over the other, I just think they’re both in a gray area, so having depth is probably a good thing. When one fails, go with the other.

  57. Mike Ri March 25th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Man . .can we give Vernon as CHANCE !! .. . lets see how this plays out .

  58. bruceb March 25th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    My abiding memory of CMW is that game in Houston when he got injured.

    My thought at the time was damn you interleague play. But as someone pointed out on the radio over the weekend, if you can’t run 90 feet between each base without injuring yourself, should you really be calling yourself a professional athlete?

    I’ve always loved the Wangster but unless he’s prepared to go down the Bartolo Colon HGH road, I’m afraid to say this another $3 million wasted on a hopeless project by the Yankees.

  59. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    “Give Vernon a chance?” At which players’ expense that is gonna get cut?

  60. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Just how much of a difference is there between Wells and Rivera? I’m Not talkin’ $$$ here, I’m talkin’ ability.

    ——————–

    Just based on last year’s numbers, Rivera has the edge.

  61. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    ‘If anyone is going it’s gotta be Hafner….’

    ————

    But Hafner is our ‘one dimensional’ LH DH who hasn’t picked up a glove in 5 plus years, how can they cut him with the allure of the short RF porch ?

  62. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    I’m gonna watch the Braves in April and pretend they are the Yankees

  63. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Haven’t seen much of Musty, but Physically, he reminds me of the W\Sox Viciedo. “The Tank” as The Hawk has tabbed him.

  64. chicken little March 25th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    the problem i see (among many) with filling a lineup p with vernon wells types is that by doing so, the Yanks will never learn if Musty and minor leaguers are capable of being big leaguers. its one thing if vernon wells was vernon wells of the mid-2000s … but i mean if you are going to have a .250 hitter in the lineup why not let a home grown player fill the role. then at least you know where you stand for next year.

  65. Mike Ri March 25th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    I?m gonna watch the Braves in April and pretend they are the Yankees

    ——-
    LOL LOL

  66. chicken little March 25th, 2013 at 11:49 am

    hafner won’t be cut. he is on a major league deal.

  67. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am
    and his splits favor LHP, which is not what we have a problem with (it’s RHP).

    Actually, right now the lineup is looking weaker vs lhp than rhp.

  68. Cashmoney March 25th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    kevin, there is no way in knowing what Mustazilla can do on the big stage. Wells has had a long track record, the last two years has been horrid. So what are we comparing, the unknown (Mustazilla) who has show a good bat in ST stats with 34 year old whose numbers can probably project more accurately base on his most recent performance in the major?

    Btw, I have no idea what the Yankees scout evaluations are either two, I would assume it would be somewhat positive.

    The only way you find out on Musty’s credential as a big leager is letting him play.

  69. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:48 am
    I’m gonna watch the Braves in April and pretend they are the Yankees.
    ____
    Lucky you. I’ll do the same with Trenton. :)

  70. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    So the Yankees did a bad job, and made a pointless acquisition, right? Actually, a funny thing happened when we began calling scouts and executives who have spent the spring in Arizona, where Wells has been playing in the Cactus League (batting .361, by the way): Baseball people like the move, and think it could help the Yankees.

    “He looks good,” said one National League exec who has seen Wells several times in recent weeks. “He could be a good pickup. (The Angels) were not asking for much money.”

    Added an American League scout who spends spring training in Arizona: “He is a legitimate major league hitter. He is a professional hitter. Everybody downgraded his abilities because of the contract, (but) he’s still a good player.”

    In fact — surprise, surprise –we did not hear one evaluator say, “he’s horse(bleep), shot player, what were the Yankees thinking?”

    So there you go. For whatever reason, Wells has looked better this year, and the baseball community approves of the deal.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....mmates-not

  71. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Mike Ri March 25th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    He has had plenty of ‘chances’ with Blue Jays and the Angels what makes you think he is just going to be ‘lightening in a bottle’ on the backside of his career ? His fielding, speed and durability are a joke.

    He has already said he is retiring when his contract expires after 2014, he is deadwood which is why the Angels were willing to eat almost $ 30 million.

    $ 30 million to dump dead baggage.

  72. Cashmoney March 25th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Trenton could have an exciting team this year Fem, I would get MiLB package probably. Do they cover every MiLB games?

  73. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Wells as a minimum pay guy or a $1-2M guy is okay. I don’t get paying so much of his money.

    This is a team that tried to go cheap for the year on the offensive side hoping for good health. Now, that they don’t have it, they are clearly in a panicked, scramble mode.

    At least they can’t be giving any decent prospect. Surely, they can’t be.

  74. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    “Lucky you. I’ll do the same with Trenton. ”

    I hope more of their games are online this year cause that team will be loaded

  75. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    I said when they signed Hafner it was a Bone Head Move. We have previously seen the Yankees accumulate bats that can Not play a position. What you get is a Beer League team. The Yankee FO is dumb, and even refuses to learn from the failure of others.

  76. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 11:55 am

    “So there you go. For whatever reason, Wells has looked better this year, and the baseball community approves of the deal.”

    You can get an anonymous scout to say anything.

  77. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    The milb package covers most the AAA games but the broadcasts are variable in their quality….sometimes it’s good and sometimes it’s a tripod set up behind home plate somewhere.

    Hopefully they will start showing some AA games….I have heard

  78. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    For the record, I like Musty, but I’d also like not-awful Wells.

  79. Cashmoney March 25th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Thanks Blake.

  80. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Vernon has had a good spring….that means next to nothing though…..for 13 million it’s a crazy deal…..the Angels were probably going to release him at some point . Have they said who we traded for him yet?

  81. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 11:36 am
    and his splits favor LHP, which is not what we have a problem with (it’s RHP).

    Actually, right now the lineup is looking weaker vs lhp than rhp.

    ————

    Then it must look absolutely terrible against RHP because most of our guys have better splits against LHP.

  82. blake March 25th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    @BryanHoch: Along the same lines, Daric Barton is out of options with Oakland. Could be another last-minute Yankees addition.

  83. Cashmoney March 25th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    It’s a bit of nuisance to get NYY on TV in a NJ hotel, I think the Phillies are the area team there at least in south NJ.

  84. austinmac March 25th, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Cashmoney,

    I had the milb package last year, and it is disappointing. Of course, I have it again this year because it came cheap with my mlbtv.com and because maybe some AA games will be intersting.

    They almost exclusively cover AAA games. Most games have the old school, one camera high up behind the batter.

    I will definately watch Trenton whenever, if ever, possible.

  85. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    “In fact — surprise, surprise –we did not hear one evaluator say, “he’s horse(bleep), shot player, what were the Yankees thinking?””

    Yeah it’s totally shocking not one professional baseball evaluator said this.. Thank god for the Daily News or else we’d have no idea what we were talking about.

  86. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    The only way the deal makes sense is if the Angels include a near-top prospect.

  87. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Again people, we coulda signed Keppinger for 3yrs at $4Mill per. He woulda been far More valuable and cheaper to the Yankees than Wells. The Yankee FO just continues to prove they have NO Plan. Their actions are knee-jerk, based on whatever Pops up at the moment. The recent additions based on other teams cutting players is evidence of that.

  88. blake March 25th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Rich in NJ says:
    March 25, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    The only way the deal makes sense is if the Angels include a near-top prospect.

    I keep thinking maybe the Angels are throwing in somebody else…..I just can’t imagine the Yanks would take on that much money for Wells straight up

  89. Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Yeah it’s totally shocking not one professional baseball evaluator said this.. Thank god for the Daily News or else we’d have no idea what we were talking about

    __________________________________________

    Yeah, especially since you haven’t even seen him this Spring and those that were quoted in the story have watched him all SPring, but yeah, you know better

  90. blake March 25th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Keppinger didn’t want to play in NY…..he’s turned them down before

  91. Baby Ruth March 25th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    ‘I don’t get paying so much of his money’

    ———

    Desperation for offense ?

  92. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Maybe we’re trading Exicardo Cayones and Diego Moreno

  93. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    “Yeah, especially since you haven’t even seen him this Spring and those that were quoted in the story have watched him all SPring, but yeah, you know better”

    Unlike the scout, Shame put her name to her quote.

    ST means nothing for veterans.

  94. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Feinsand just shot me another email, he called MLB and they confirmed my factual correctness. Suck it, Joel Sherman.

  95. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Cashman on Sirius Mad Dog Radio. Russo called into question the lack of development from the system. Trying to find the rest of it. I think the entire interview is 25 mins long.

    https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmsports/brian-cashman-ny-yankees-gm/

  96. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    LOL, looks like Feinsand took JF’s email and turned it into an editorial.

    Nice work.

  97. brianlopez22 March 25th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    “They almost exclusively cover AAA games. Most games have the old school, one camera high up behind the batter.

    I will definately watch Trenton whenever, if ever, possible.

    This is all I am looking forward to…
    Trenton Thunder baby!

  98. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    But according to a source, the Yankees are expected to pay Wells about $12 million in 2013, leaving the Angels to pick up the other $9 million. That means that the Angels would pay $20 million of Wells’ $21 million salary next year, not only erasing the entire $18 million luxury tax figure for the Yankees, but adding a $2 million credit.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2OZHu1GCr

    I may be the source in this article

  99. FiretheUMPIRE March 25th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    Let’s just hope Vernon Wells is more Ibanez than he is Randy Winn.

  100. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    But according to a source, the Yankees are expected to pay Wells about $12 million in 2013, leaving the Angels to pick up the other $9 million. That means that the Angels would pay $20 million of Wells’ $21 million salary next year, not only erasing the entire $18 million luxury tax figure for the Yankees, but adding a $2 million credit.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2OZHz7I8M

    JF is definitely ‘a source’ lmao.

  101. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Jinx!! He literally pulled this right from you, wasn’t he arguing yesterday with Sherman over the dollar break down?

  102. blake March 25th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: After further review, Yankees’ trade for Vernon Wells could help them get under the $189 million threshold next year http://t.co/qJmnB9GeTs

    Did he credit Jerkface ?

  103. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Wow Jerkface, stick that one on your resume. Unnamed source!

  104. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Yeah it’s totally shocking not one professional baseball evaluator said this.. Thank god for the Daily News or else we’d have no idea what we were talking about

    __________________________________________

    Yeah, especially since you haven’t even seen him this Spring and those that were quoted in the story have watched him all SPring, but yeah, you know better

    ———————

    The numbers know better. I hope Wells is on horse steroids because that’s the only way you’re going to see a better slash line.

  105. bruceb March 25th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    The only way the deal makes sense is if the Angels include a near-top prospect.

    Maybe Dipoto has promised Cashman that he’ll take A-Rod for the last two years of his contract?

  106. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    That’s a really expensive way to save $2m in 2014, unless, as I said, they get a good prospect.

  107. JobaTipsHisCap March 25th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

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  108. Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Unlike the scout, Shame put her name to her quote.

    ST means nothing for veterans.

    ________________________________________

    Doesn’t say the scout asked not be named. Just the way the story was written. Either way, I’d go by the evaluation of scouts who have actually watched him this Spring

  109. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    If the Yankees cut Wells, do they keep the credit? This is the key.

  110. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 3m
    To his credit, @jerktweets was correct. Good stuff.

  111. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    I watched him in Toronto… he was awful then. I watched him play a few games last year and the year before with the Angels.. he was awful then, too.

    Feinsand just named JERKFACE as ‘a source’ in his last article. How do we know who/where this scout is and what their credentials are?

  112. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    If the Yankees cut Wells, do they keep the credit? This is the key.

    Yes. If they cut him they’re still on the hook for his salary and the angels are still on the hook for their cash considerations.

  113. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    That’s a really expensive way to save $2m in 2014

    ————-

    QFT.

  114. brianlopez22 March 25th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Remember a few years back when the major league Yankees played the Yankees’ minor league stars?
    Why did they stop that?
    I would pay to watch that game

    Slade the Blade LF
    David Adams 2B
    Tyler Austin 1B (only to get him in the lineup)
    Zoilo Almonte RF
    Gary Sanchez C
    Melky Mesa CF
    Corbin Joseph 3B
    Mason Williams DH
    Cito Culver SS

  115. Triple Short of a Cycle March 25th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Cash was trying to compare Phil Hughes to Matt Cain to Mad Dog

  116. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Yes. If they cut him they’re still on the hook for his salary and the angels are still on the hook for their cash considerations.
    ———–

    And boom goes the dynamite. That’s a genius little move. I mean, we really shouldn’t celebrate this, but hey…

  117. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    “Cash was trying to compare Phil Hughes to Matt Cain to Mad Dog”

    If he really thinks that, Hughes should be getting this $13m.

  118. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    brianlopez22 March 25th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    Remember a few years back when the major league Yankees played the Yankees’ minor league stars?
    Why did they stop that?
    I would pay to watch that game

    Slade the Blade LF
    David Adams 2B
    Tyler Austin 1B (only to get him in the lineup)
    Zoilo Almonte RF
    Gary Sanchez C
    Melky Mesa CF
    Corbin Joseph 3B
    Mason Williams DH
    Cito Culver SS
    ———-

    Might beat the Astros

  119. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    “Cash was trying to compare Phil Hughes to Matt Cain to Mad Dog”

    If he really thinks that, Hughes should be getting this $13m.

    —————–

    Thank god we have a $2 million credit coming our way!

  120. brianlopez22 March 25th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    RadioKev – Might beat the Yankees…
    sad but true.

  121. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    The continued #1 Priority of $189 Mill, is killing This Yankee team, and Future Yankee teams. Hal should be run outta town.

  122. Tackelberry March 25th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    I watched him in Toronto… he was awful then. I watched him play a few games last year and the year before with the Angels.. he was awful then, too.

    Feinsand just named JERKFACE as ‘a source’ in his last article. How do we know who/where this scout is and what their credentials are?
    _______________________________

    How do we know that you’ve watched him as you say you have? Or how good you’re evaluation is? You think the NY Daily News would just print a story without confirming that these people were real scouts? Cmon!

  123. Carly March 25th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    BryanHoch Along the same lines, Daric Barton is out of options with Oakland. Could be another last-minute Yankees addition.

    Gosh, I was on this one a few weeks ago. I also floated Pena, Wallace, Carter, and Smoak. We shall see.

  124. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Actually, MiLB-TV keeps improving and actually showed a lot more games across the minor leagues last year. All Trenton home games were televised and some SI games. Also a smattering of Charleston away games. The team that still gets barely any coverage is the Tampa Yanks (and of course the GCL teams).

  125. blake March 25th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    @FeinsandNYDN: To his credit, @jerktweets was correct. Good stuff.

  126. blake March 25th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    @JonHeymanCBS: Lohse to sign with brewers

  127. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    And boom goes the dynamite. That’s a genius little move. I mean, we really shouldn’t celebrate this, but hey…

    It IS a clever move if your major goal is to get under the luxury tax threshold. My only qualm with it is that you’re paying 12 million + ~4.5 million in luxury tax in 2013 for the 2 million dollar credit in 2014, and also losing a 40 man spot and a 25 man spot. So theres some other cost to it.

  128. pat March 25th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    Lohse to Brewers.

  129. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    blake March 25th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    @JonHeymanCBS: Lohse to sign with brewers
    ———

    Give that man a beer

  130. Triple Short of a Cycle March 25th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Yea because the Daily News always prints accurate information. Like when Bill Madden’s “sources” told him Torre was going to be fired after the 2006 loss to Detroit

  131. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    How do we know that you’ve watched him as you say you have? Or how good you’re evaluation is? You think the NY Daily News would just print a story without confirming that these people were real scouts? Cmon!

    Anonymous executives and scouts are not always real and are sometimes used as stand ins for the author’s opinion. True story.

  132. Triple Short of a Cycle March 25th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Mad Dog asked Cash where is your Matt Cain and he mentioned Phil Hughes and the fact that he won 18 games in the AL

  133. pat March 25th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    TBrownYahoo
    The Lohse contract is not yet signed. Physical today. It’s a multi-year deal.

  134. FiretheUMPIRE March 25th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Still waiting for the master plan to unfold their Cash. We know we know, “The plan is patience”.

    How insulting.

  135. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Has “Matt Cain” become the fill-in for ace/elite #2 because we couldn’t settle on if he’s an ace or not?

    “Well the Yankees are really hoping Hiroki Kuroda can be the ‘Matt Cain’ this season…”

    “Jose Ramirez could be a ‘Matt Cain’ someday…”

    “I dunno if Andy Pettitte was a ‘Matt Cain’ or not, be he sure is great in the playoffs…”

  136. FiretheUMPIRE March 25th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Listen steinbro’s you have no plan and your go-to guy has no plan.

    So fire him.

  137. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Vernon Wells has a Very long MLB track record, and most of us have seen him play recently and over the course of time. Why on earth would we take the word of an anonymous scout or anyone else?

  138. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle March 25th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
    Mad Dog asked Cash where is your Matt Cain and he mentioned Phil Hughes and the fact that he won 18 games in the AL

    ————————-

    Cash was reaching in that clip

  139. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    Anonymous executives and scouts are not always real and are sometimes used as stand ins for the author’s opinion. True story.
    ______
    Right, any source that isn’t identified is suspect, and sports writers aren’t exactly qualified to cover the sport they cover. Therefore, read with healthy skepticism.

  140. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    Vernon Wells has a Very long MLB track record, and most of us have seen him play recently and over the course of time. Why on earth would we take the word of an anonymous scout or anyone else?
    ———-

    So Wells has looked like crap while having a 1.000+ OPS?

    The Angels are just making up the box scores, in some MLB-wide conspiracy to dupe the Yankees?

  141. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    How do we know that you’ve watched him as you say you have? Or how good you’re evaluation is? You think the NY Daily News would just print a story without confirming that these people were real scouts? Cmon!

    ———————–

    I dunno… you’d think if someone is citing ‘a source’ in a story about how the CBA breaks down salaries he’s referencing a real source and not some guy that emailed him this morning. So I guess anything is possible.

    We saw Wells a lot with Toronto. If you watch the Yankees you saw a fair bit of Wells over the last few years. He’ been bad. His slash line doesn’t even match Ibanez’s from last year.

  142. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    pat March 25th, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    TBrownYahoo
    The Lohse contract is not yet signed. Physical today. It’s a multi-year deal.

    ————

    Wow, multi-year? Can’t wait to see how much Boras got him.

  143. yankeefeminista March 25th, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    “Mad Dog asked Cash where is your Matt Cain and he mentioned Phil Hughes and the fact that he won 18 games in the AL”
    __
    Cash, not the best evaluator of pitching… and does that mean Cash is going to pay Hughes Matt Cain money? :roll:

  144. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    So Wells has looked like crap while having a 1.000+ OPS?

    The Angels are just making up the box scores, in some MLB-wide conspiracy to dupe the Yankees?

    Its spring training. Many guys who stink in the regular season have awesome spring trainings. Andy Phillips, Ben Francisco, Kila Ka’aihue, etc.

  145. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    If this move is genius, we have redefined the word.

  146. DONNYBROOK March 25th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Your talking Well’s ST Numbers. I’m talking about watching Well’s perform against MLB talent, when the games matter. No comparison what-so-ever.

  147. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    So there you go. For whatever reason, Wells has looked better this year, and the baseball community approves of the deal.

    Carly – :D

    This after we were told that getting Wells was the joke of everyone talking baseball.

    “Man . .can we give Vernon as CHANCE !! .. . lets see how this plays out .”

    Not allowed Mike. The erudite have spoken. ;)

    “The deal is done, try to make the best of it is all…”

    Hard to beat that logic, mick. However, you know better than to suggest that here!

  148. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    So Wells has looked like crap while having a 1.000+ OPS?

    The Angels are just making up the box scores, in some MLB-wide conspiracy to dupe the Yankees?

    ———————

    Dude, c’mon you’re talking about 41 ABs in Feb/March.

    Wells hasn’t had an OPS above .700 in 2 years.

  149. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Oh yeah, Jerkface, no doubt about it. I just think it’s totally plausible that there’s one scout out there that thinks Wells has looked good so far.

    Seems silly to suggest a writer is making things up, when we have the numbers in front of us. Disagree all you want about it! It’s just shallow to not even allow for the possibility a single scout thinks he looks good while mashing the ball.

  150. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    You know what spring is useful for? Seeing the tools of guys who are unknowns, like cuban players and japanese imports, and whatever. And seeing top prospects get some time against major leaguers.

    For the most part springs should never decide roster spots because theres zero correlation between spring performance and performance that season.

  151. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    jerkface, congrats for getting your stuff in real print. Seriously, that’s impressive.

    :)

  152. Rich in NJ March 25th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Wells’ OPS+ since 2007:

    2007 85
    2008 123
    2009 86
    2010 125
    2011 84
    2012 91

    And we care about ST?

  153. Against All Odds March 25th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    ST is a crazy time. Some guys perform poorly but then have big regular seasons while some players perform great and have bad yrs. I just don’t see Vernon Wells turning back the clock. Hopefully he does because they need him

  154. jacksquat March 25th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    The only “source” these guys (or anyone) needs is the CBA itself. Just read it. Especially if it relates to your job.

  155. Shame Spencer March 25th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    And we care about ST?

    ——————

    We only care about ST when it suits us lol.

    I don’t doubt there is one person that may have said Wells looks good.. I just doubt that it’s worth anything, no matter who it’s coming from.

  156. Cashmoney March 25th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    you know, Chip suggested Zob and McCann as potential FA candidates to pursuit if Yanks don’t sign Cano, I think in terms of needs and money, that’s a good fit for the Yanks in 14.

  157. Cashmoney March 25th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Jerk does his due diligence more than most these local writers do, I think Heyman first thought when he wakes up is what’s on McD breakfast menu.

  158. Jerkface March 25th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    I don’t doubt there is one person that may have said Wells looks good.. I just doubt that it’s worth anything, no matter who it’s coming from.

    In baseball everyone looks good when they’re hitting, its being able to determine those who will hit consistently that is the measure of a good scout. Don’t tell me some guy who goes 3 for 4 is awesome. Tell me that he is going to keep doing it.

  159. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    You know what the disturbing part is, Rich?

    That’s way better than Ben Francsico! And he was better than Boesch last season! And he has way less strike outs than Melky Mesa in the past two seasons!

  160. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    “We only care about ST when it suits us lol.”

    Too true, Shame

    I take all good news in Spring Training as a sign of things to come, and all the bad stuff is meaningless :D

  161. RadioKev March 25th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    “We only care about ST when it suits us lol.”

    Too true, Shame

    I take all good news in Spring Training as a sign of things to come, and all the bad stuff is meaningless :D

  162. BD (Boston Dave) March 25th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    I generally take a wait and see approach on Yankee moves and/or at least try to see the reasoning behind the move…

    … but even I can’t stomach the Vernon Wells trade.

    I don’t think it’s a big deal in the grand scheme, but I have little doubt the Angels front office have been giving out some high-fives among themselves.

  163. BD (Boston Dave) March 25th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    There was not much doubt that the Yanks would live and die by their pitching this season, and thankfully that’s pretty darn good (on paper), so these types of moves don’t change too much.

    CC, Hiroki, Andy, Ivan, Hughes, Phelps, pen….

    carry that weight.

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  166. champ809 March 25th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Yeah well the big thing is that Brian has for years talked about developing a farm system but hasn’t done it. He hasn’t been willing to spend on good young international players in a major way or in the draft and his development team (Eppler, Newman, Oppenheimer, Contreras) has been horrible at both identifying talent in the organization and developing that talent.

    I said it earlier, the Yankees used to be great at self scouting – pumping up an average player (Rickey Ledee) and then trading him while still holding onto good prospects. Sure they made mistakes (Drew Henson over Mike Lowell) but they were fewer and farther between than they’ve been under this regime.
    _____________________________________________________________________

    Chip March 25th, 2013 at 12:09 am
    luis,

    Oppenheimer gets a lot of credit for the drafting but they have missed quite badly with recent first round picks.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    The core arguments on both of these points is actually very incorrect.

    Point 1- the farm system was at the bottom of the barrel when Cash basically reworked the thing from the bottom up and it is currently a top 10 system on the verge or in fact would maybe be top 5 right now were it nor for injury to Manban, Campos and a couple of others last season. Certainly is setup to finish the year top 5 with a plethora of impact players.

    Point 1A- The Yanks have spent MILLIONS on international players and elite levels kids over the last few years i.e. Montero, Gary Sanchez, De Paula, Miguel Andujar, Torrens, Avelino and countless others. What they HAVEN”T been willing to do is GAMBLE by signing some of the top CUBAN professional players to MAJOR LEAGUE $$ when in their assessment they’re basically AA caliber players. While I’ve disagreed with this stance in the case of Chapman, Cespedes and maybe Soler ( and after the fact Puig ) it is hard to find fault with this logic being that these players are beyond unknown from an evaluation standpoint.

    Point 2- Since ’06 when the “new regime” came into place the yanks 1st round picks were;

    ’06- Ian Kennedy & Joba Chamberlain…excellent picks at the bottom of the draft kennedy challenged for a CY young in ’11 and is currently the “ace” of the D’backs staff…Joba we all know what happened there. Great picks.

    ’07- Andrew Brackman…showed flashes but ultimately a bust.

    ’08- Gerrit Cole & Jeremy Bleich…Cole is a stud and current ranked top 5 on all prospects lists. Not the Yanks fault that the family is rich and didn’t need the $ and daddy pushed his kid to go to school to mature some. Bleich had tommy john is finally healthy and throwing great right now will start the season in AA.

    ’09- Slade Heathcott…the yanks were setup to take Trout with the 28th pick but the Angels picking 2 spots ahead of us grabbed him and we recovered and took Slade. Injury has slowed his development some but now healthy he is showing that he’s a STUD!!! and maybe in the bigs as early as 2014. Great Pick

    ’10 Cito Culver…with only 1 pick in the top 80 the Yanks reached a lil bit on Cito but loved his glove and makeup and figured with him being a “northeast’ kis his development with the bat would be a little slower as he needed the reps. Now that he’s gone strictly righty with bat looks like he may really show out but has already showed the he will play gold glove caliber D so it remains to be seen how the bat looks as this season progresses. Impact SS is currently THE rarest commodity is the game. Incomplete but a total need pick

    ’11- Dante Bichette…similar to Cito in that he may have been a bit of a reach but most likely would not have been there when the Yanks pick came back around and 3B was a priority in the org at the time. tremendous rookie season topped off with a championship and struggled in his sophomore season which is not uncommon. Will be important to see how he responds to failing for the 1st time in his career but truthfully looks like a player and has the bloodlines obviously. Incomplete

    ’12- Ty Hensley…top 10 talent at the the end of the draft is a steal everytime. Ace body 95-99mph fastball and he’s a puppy. Great Pick

    So to the point considering that we are always bringing up the rrear of the draft when all the “can’t miss kids” are gone they’ve done a tremendous job of spotting and developing 1st round talent to date. Remember this is a real hit or miss business by nature.

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