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Tuesday afternoon notes: “I’ve quietly been a Yankees fan”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 26, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This is the way Vernon Wells told the story of being traded to the Yankees”

“(The Angels) called me in the office and said, ‘We have a deal in place; it’s just a matter of your approval,’” Wells said. “Then they told me the team, and I tried not to smile too big in the office. … I remember the first time I played the Triple-A Yankees when I was 20 years old and Strawberry was on that team. It was the first time that I actually got goose bumps playing against another team. From that day, I’ve quietly been a Yankees fan. Obviously not when we played against the Yankees, but every time or any time the Yankees were in the playoffs and I was sitting at home, I was cheering for the Yankees. This is somewhat of a dream come true.”

It was the kind of story that — in a lot of circumstances — would win over even the most cynical fan base, but Wells’ good-guy reputation is well known, and the Yankees don’t necessarily need another fan in the clubhouse. What they need is a bat, and the past few years, Wells hasn’t been much of a bat.

“Even my last year in Toronto, I think I hit 30 homers, but I still hit .260 something,” Wells said. “From that point, it just gradually got worse. These last three weeks have been a matter of trying to stay inside the ball and hit the ball hard and still hit a few homers. It’s just a byproduct of taking good swings and keeping my hands short. You live, and you learn. Now I’ve just got to be consistent with this approach. When I am consistent with this approach, I’m a much better player than I have been the last couple of years.”

In other words, Wells is well aware of his numbers, and he said he spent this offseason trying to get back to the things that won him a massive seven-year, $126 million contract in the first place.

“Coming into spring training and throughout the offseason, my goal was just to get back to the basics and just put the barrel on the ball as many times as I can,” Wells said. “Shorten my swing and use the other field. I forgot what right field was like for a couple of years. You get caught up in hitting home runs and seeing how far you can hit them, and your swing changes. I was able to take some time this offseason, look at a lot of video from when I was younger and just spraying the ball all over the field. Once we got into spring training, that was my goal. And so far, so good. Getting back to just being short and quick, and balls are still jumping off my bat and my hands are still as quick as they were when I was younger.”

Wells was hitting .361/.390/.722 in Angels camp, but it remains to be seen whether that sort of success can carry into the regular season. Wells seems to be in good shape, and he was easy to like during today’s introductory group interview, but he’s going to be judged on his production.

“You always respect the game and whatever happens, happens,” Wells said. “But enjoy your time in the uniform, and I’m going to enjoy my time in this uniform.”

• Outfielder Exircado Cayones and left-handed pitcher Kramer Sneed are going to the Angels to complete the Wells trade. The Yankees announced that they will make a 40-man move later, so for now there are 41 players on the 40-man.

• Derek Jeter acknowledged that he’s onboard with the Yankees plan to have him open the season on the disabled list. “I just ran out of days,” he said. Jeter will get treatment today and he’s not sure when he’ll try to play again.

• Will Jeter come to Opening Day just to be a part of the ceremony? “Whatever gets me ready to play the soonest,” he said. “If it calls for me to be here to do stuff to get ready to play sooner, I will stay here and get ready to play sooner.”

• Phil Hughes will start another minor league game tomorrow. David Phelps will start tomorrow’s big league game. Those two are obviously on the same schedule so that either one can start April 6.

• Juan Rivera said he hasn’t heard anything about his roster status, but today was the deadline to either release him, put him on the 25-man roster or pay him a $100,000 retention bonus. The fact he’s still here and hasn’t heard anything about the roster suggests the Yankees are going to give him $100,000 to stick around, which suggests he’s a favorite — for now — to be on the roster.

• Wells was assigned No. 56, which really belongs to Tony Pena. Well said he’ll be assigned a lower number once the season starts.

• Wells said he’s fully healthy. Last year’s thumb injury was kind of a freakish situation and he feels good now.

• Cesar Cabral was scheduled to throw batting practice to Casey Stevenson, Neil Medchill and Luke Murton but I didn’t see it and didn’t see Cabral afterward.

• Although he was technically optioned a while back, this was the first day Corban Joseph wasn’t in big league camp. He’s officially joined minor league camp.

Today’s second string: C Bobby Wilson, 1B Luke Murton, 2B Gil Velazquez, SS Jayson Nix, 3B Ronnier Mustelier, LF Ben Francisco, CF Melky Mesa, RF Thomas Neal

Today’s scheduled relievers: Mariano Rivera, Dave Robertson, Joba Chamberlain, Jim Miller, Vidal Nuno

• Tomorrow’s travel squad
Pitchers: Juan Cedeno, Preston Claiborne, David Phelps, Branden Pinder, Josh Spence
Catcher: Bobby Wilson
Infielders: Robinson Cano, Dan Johnson, Jayson Nix, Eduardo Nunez, Gil Velazquez
Outfielders: Brennan Boesch, Ben Francisco, Brett Gardner, Melky Mesa, Ronnier Mustelier, Thomas Neal

Associated Press photos

 
 

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86 Responses to “Tuesday afternoon notes: “I’ve quietly been a Yankees fan””

  1. FiretheUMPIRE March 26th, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Wells scrolling across my FB. The move has over 500 likes. Does LOHUD even have 500 regulars?

  2. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    @MikeDiGiovanna 2m

    #Yankees will actually pay $11.5 million of Wells’ contract this year and $2.4 million of it next year.

    So the Yankees should, theoretically, get a 600k credit. Weak. Not even worth it.

  3. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    A few thoughts:

    1. It is a good story but Chad’s right that what the Yankees need is Vernon Wells the player not the fan.

    2. I’m a big Tex fan, but it’s interesting the different approaches he and Wells took this winter/spring. Tex said he’s not going to change anything but just try to get back to what he used to do to improve while Wells is changing his style from what he used to do to something new to improve.

    3. So we know he’ll get a new number later on, but the question that’s on everyone’s mind – what does Girardi call Wells “Wellsie” “Vern” “Vernie” “VW”?

  4. FiretheUMPIRE March 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    “You get caught up in hitting home runs and seeing how far you can hit them, and your swing changes. I was able to take some time this offseason, look at a lot of video from when I was younger and just spraying the ball all over the field.”

    Tell your buddy Mark Teixeira.

  5. MG March 26th, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Doreen, well said in the previous thread, we are on the same page…

  6. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    “..it sure seems like a lot of the people posting the last few days have made up their minds that the team is going to stink.”

    Psssh, you should have seen this place in October. I actually think we’ve come a long way towards positivity since then.. :twisted:

  7. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Yankees will actually only pay at most $4.5 mil to Wells this year – the $7 they get from the WBC for Tex will pay for the rest.

  8. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Wells’ salary in 2014 will be $21 million, just as it this season. But his luxury-tax charge, calculated from the average annual value of his long-term contract, is about $16.4 million. Most media outlets reported the Jays’ original extension with Wells as seven years, $126 million. But the team, according to a source, actually reported the deal to baseball as eight years, $131.6 million, lowering Wells’ luxury-tax number.

    If the Angels cover $20 million of Wells’ $21 million in ’14, as cited in the original example, the Yankees actually will receive a sum greater than his luxury-tax charge. The Yankees then could get a “credit” on their luxury-tax payroll, though whether the labor agreement allows them to actually receive such a benefit is unclear.

    One source said no, that they would simply be charged $0. But the Yankees, other sources say, apparently thought otherwise, and were trying to arrange for a credit in their final discussions with the Angels.

    http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/....._post=true

    Interesting if the above AAV is true, and this is the problem with COTs as they are not an ‘official source’ of contract status, then they should get a 2.15 million credit.

  9. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I don’t need Jeter making some ceremonial appearance at Opening Day. I need him getting ready to play.

  10. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Yankees will actually only pay at most $4.5 mil to Wells this year – the $7 they get from the WBC for Tex will pay for the rest.

    ————–

    They don’t get it if they don’t DL him, right?

    I dunno how much the WBC money matters anyway since it’s all about the cap.

  11. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    @MikeDiGiovanna: #Yankees will actually pay $11.5 million of Wells’ contract this year and $2.4 million of it next year.

  12. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Jerkface -

    If Wells has anything in the tank – let’s say Andruw Jones 2011 numbers – then getting a player like that for the bench and not taking a luxury tax hit for him is fine. Getting an additional 2.15 to sign a guy for the bench or a relief pitcher is a bonus.

  13. LGY March 26th, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    Yankees will actually only pay at most $4.5 mil to Wells this year – the $7 they get from the WBC for Tex will pay for the rest.

    —————–

    I don’t understand this logic at all.

    How does the WBC paying a portion of Tex’s contract factor into how much they are paying Wells?

  14. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Yankees will actually only pay at most $4.5 mil to Wells this year – the $7 they get from the WBC for Tex will pay for the rest.

    ————–

    They don’t get it if they don’t DL him, right?

    I dunno how much the WBC money matters anyway since it’s all about the cap.

    ————-

    No they do get it if they DL him. In fact, from what I read, if Tex comes off the DL and goes back on it with the same injury then the WBC pays more of his contract. In theory, if Tex is done for the year the WBC owes the Yankees his annual salary. Which, I think, would make it easier for Cashman to go out in that scenario and get a guy like Justin Morneau if he can tell Hal that the move is revenue neutral – which it would be.

  15. FiretheUMPIRE March 26th, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Wells move up to 4,966 likes now. Where are you LOHUD? Get on your FB accounts and REPRESENT.

  16. astrocityfan March 26th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    i want to like Wells i really do. If he helps the team i am all for the move. IMO an outfield of wells, gardner ichiro is much better than anything else we have been envisioning this spring. When Grandy comes back wells can be the righty DH if he is hitting. The real question is the roster management. That is going to be painful to watch.

  17. MaineYankee March 26th, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Doreen

    How many times did you backspace and rewrite that post? :D :

    By the way, as usual very well said.

  18. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    How does the WBC paying a portion of Tex’s contract factor into how much they are paying Wells?
    __

    My guess is whoever posted this meant that we get $7 or more back for Tex, so that can go toward the 11.5 for Wells. Roundabout logic. Could just say they are paying wells 11.5 and only paying tex 16.5 instead of 23.5.

  19. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Shame,

    For a few days, it felt great here – I mean the criticism is always a part of here – but the discussions were good ones.

    Then they signed Wells and I know no one reacted well (myself included) and from that point on, it just felt like a downward spiral into the depths of despair and ruin. I had promised myself I’d stay away from the comment section for a while. But it keeps dragging me back in….

    God help me if they cut Musty.

  20. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    LGY March 26th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
    Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    Yankees will actually only pay at most $4.5 mil to Wells this year – the $7 they get from the WBC for Tex will pay for the rest.

    —————–

    I don’t understand this logic at all.

    How does the WBC paying a portion of Tex’s contract factor into how much they are paying Wells?

    ——————

    Money for Tex is money that was spent and accounted for. Now someone is handing the Yankees a check for $7 million because they broke Tex. The Yankees don’t need the $7 million, in their eyes it was already spent. So now they’re going to take this found money and spend it elsewhere – in this case on the Vernon Wells contract.

    There’s a car dealership in New Jersey that offers you $1,000 if you buy a car from them. Anyone with a brain realizes that the $1,000 they are giving you is just the money that you already spent on the car. But because you budgeted to spend X dollars on the car, the $1,000 becomes money that you invariably end up spending on something else.

  21. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    i want to like Wells i really do. If he helps the team i am all for the move. IMO an outfield of wells, gardner ichiro is much better than anything else we have been envisioning this spring. When Grandy comes back wells can be the righty DH if he is hitting. The real question is the roster management. That is going to be painful to watch.
    ____

    This is where my worries lay too. Wells will probably be better than he was, but how they make the 40 man work with nix, pitchers, rivera, wells, francisco, nuno, musty is very unclear, especially when they delude themselves into thinking tex shouldnt go on the 60 day dl.

    They are the only ones who think tex will be back before june. even tex doesnt think he will be back before that.

  22. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    How does the WBC paying a portion of Tex’s contract factor into how much they are paying Wells?
    __

    My guess is whoever posted this meant that we get $7 or more back for Tex, so that can go toward the 11.5 for Wells. Roundabout logic. Could just say they are paying wells 11.5 and only paying tex 16.5 instead of 23.5.

    —————-

    It’s an accounting thing:

    You’re right – it doesn’t really matter how you slice it, with Tex hurt and Vernon Wells getting $11.5 the Yankees are only increasing their dollars spent over budget by $4.5.

  23. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Maine Yankee -

    I reread it twice to make sure I was saying what I wanted to say. I don’t want to insult anyone, but I don’t want to be insulted either. And there should be room for all points of view, and also if one side has leeway to call the other side “idiots,” then the “idiots” should be able to make a sarcastic remark or two. That’s all I’m saying. :)

  24. mick March 26th, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    I’m starting to think the naysayers are in the minority.
    They just have bigger mouths.

  25. Abomb82 March 26th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Wells = Richie Sexon in 2008

  26. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    We got WBC money….. Lets go waste it so the fans we see how much we care!

  27. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Seems to me you don’t want Granderson on the 60-day, but if rest is what Tex needs most, wouldn’t it be prudent to force that rest with a 60-day DL? Especially because of the roster crunch. Where does 60 days leave them, June 1st or so? I’d rather not have him for 2 extra weeks at the start, then have him come back too soon and lose him for the rest of the season. And if he can’t come back at all, what’s the loss, in terms of 60-day DL?

  28. FiretheUMPIRE March 26th, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    There you go Mick. They are ushered off mainstream forums/platforms, congregate here and manufacture the illusion that they are some kind of untapped braintrust that the front office must oblige.

    This is one place where they can feel like they have you outnumbered.

  29. Carly March 26th, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    FeinsandNYDN Given what the Yankees traded away, the Wells deal is a great risk/reward situation for them. If he has anything left, it’s a steal.

    Way I see it, maybe the Yanks do value their young crop of positional prospects in AA and in lower A ball, or else some might have been dealt to have the Angels take up even more of the contract OR they could have obtained Soriano.

  30. willwill March 26th, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    While i hope Wells succeeds, i will have to say it’ll be that much sweeter to see passan choke on the article he wrote.

  31. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Hopefully Vernon will find a 2nd wind and give them something until Granderson gets back then hit lefties the rest of his time in NY at least….. He does seem like a nice guy so I’m moving past the trade now and gonna cheer him on I guess.

  32. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    @AndrewMarchand: Source: Martin proposed one-year deal http://t.co/TmVitUueNF @Ken_Rosenthal said first

    Lol

  33. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    You’re right – it doesn’t really matter how you slice it, with Tex hurt and Vernon Wells getting $11.5 the Yankees are only increasing their dollars spent over budget by $4.5.
    __

    My guess is tex is out a lot longer and WBC ends up paying a majority if not all of his $23M this year.

  34. mick March 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    It’s not that we don’t see the brilliance of these naysayers, it’s just that they constantly repeat the same things over and over again.
    We get the point and don’t need to be refreshed 24/7, 365.
    Nothing we can do about it, call Cashman or don’t go to the games, better yet go away…

  35. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    The people liking the Wells trade on facebook are fans of other teams.

  36. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    If Martin would have done a one year deal then that’s really hard to figure why they didnt do that…..

  37. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    All trades should be judged by Facebook likes.

  38. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Doreen -

    I’m with you 100%

    Tex is going to be helped by either rest or surgery – if it’s surgery he’s done for the year and that’s that. If it’s rest then an extra 2 weeks is only going to help.

  39. MaineYankee March 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Doreen

    You and I used to both erase post because we knew it would stir things up.

    I have never known you to be anything but respectful here and that’s why you were missed.

  40. FiretheUMPIRE March 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Wells when “right” is somewhat comparable to Soriano but we don’t know

    1) How much Soriano would cost in 2014

    2) What prospect(s) Theo was demanding

  41. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    austinmac -

    Truce.

    ****

  42. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Facebook should have a dislike button….I see things I want to dislike all the time on there but have no capacity

  43. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Seems to me you don’t want Granderson on the 60-day, but if rest is what Tex needs most, wouldn’t it be prudent to force that rest with a 60-day DL? Especially because of the roster crunch. Where does 60 days leave them, June 1st or so? I’d rather not have him for 2 extra weeks at the start, then have him come back too soon and lose him for the rest of the season. And if he can’t come back at all, what’s the loss, in terms of 60-day DL?
    ___

    Agreed. There is a good chance Grandy is back in May. Tex is far less likely under the best circumstance, but even if they 60 day him, he could be back on May 22.

  44. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    And if he can’t come back at all, what’s the loss, in terms of 60-day DL?

    No loss at all. The only loss with the 60 day DL is Tex’s earliest return time being pushed to June 1.

  45. blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    @jay_jaffe: yeesh RT @JeffFletcherOCR: MLB exec says it’s “absolutely” a steal for the #Angels to get $13.9M worth of salary relief for Vernon Wells.

    They probably woukd have released him if Cashman had waited a bit longer

  46. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Doreen – I’m just genuinely taken aback that people worry about the tone in here.

    The opinions in here aren’t formulated in a vacuum… this has been building. The reaction to the Wells move is more than just the reaction to one baseball transaction.

    I just don’t think there’s much doom and gloom and despair in here.. it’s just a baseball blog. The discussions about Wells are still good ones. They don’t reflect well on the team or management, but they’re good baseball discussions when you’re breaking down salaries and production and comparing them to other players.

  47. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    No loss at all. The only loss with the 60 day DL is Tex’s earliest return time being pushed to June 1.
    ___

    Can back date it to March 22 no?
    Like with Jeter.

  48. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    MaineYankee -

    :)

    Still do it. Some days more than others!

    Chip – this is one case where they really can’t get hurt by over estimating the time on the DL.

  49. Yankee Trader March 26th, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    The Yankees got Cayones from the Pirates for Burnett and today gave him to the Angels.

  50. Against All Odds March 26th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Duh Innings II March 26th, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    —————–

    You do realize I’m not calling for you to banned right.

  51. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Calling $11+ million for Wells ‘a steal’ just goes to show how much hyperbole is used daily…

  52. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Can back date it to March 22 no?
    Like with Jeter.

    Apparently not. Chad said no yesterday, which is why the Yankees said no 60 day for either.

  53. UpState March 26th, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    “…What was more painful than watching guys like Len Boehmer, Steve Whitaker, Jimmy Hall, and Tom Shopay…”
    ——————————————-

    …but Steve Whitaker had legitimate potential…someone we could really root for back then….and then the Pilots stole him !

    – the others — meh?

    The 1991 Scott Sanderson was pretty damn good !

  54. blake March 26th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Vernon Wells’s immovable contract has been moved twice now…..

  55. Against All Odds March 26th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    blake March 26th, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    —————-

    Tell me Martin did something behind the scenes.

  56. bruceb March 26th, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    Blake

    Facebook does have an unlike button!

  57. RadioKev March 26th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Hey! I joked Cayones would be the guy we traded!

  58. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    blake March 26th, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Vernon Wells’s immovable contract has been moved twice now…..

    —————-

    Lol, people were teasing me for trying to move Tex last year!! NTC, giant AAV, no real position, etc… none of this stops a player from being movable.

  59. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Shame -

    I think for me anyway, I won’t speak for anyone else, I cannot tell when someone is just venting and letting out all their negative thoughts spontaneously, or if they are well-crafted genuine opinions and feelings. The “hate” that sometimes comes through from some posters for some Yankees brass is palatable and unnerving, and I react to that.

    It’s not the pluses or minuses of the particular moves. That’s interesting, and that’s baseball, that’s what fans do, and if everyone agreed, how boring it would be, and maybe you learn something along the way. But the other stuff? There’s got to be a better way to get the point across.

  60. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Apparently not. Chad said no yesterday, which is why the Yankees said no 60 day for either.
    ___

    Ok so even if they can’t, the chances tex returns before june 1 is slim, plus he will need time in the minors to get his swing right (considering it takes him 3 months every year anyway).

  61. blake March 26th, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    “Facebook does have an unlike button!”

    But you have to like it first to unlike it right? I want a dislike button!

  62. FiretheUMPIRE March 26th, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    If Vernon Wells is worth 7 million per year, Tex must be worth 10. So if you moved Tex, you’d have to pay him 13 million per year to play for another big market team most likely in contention with that kind of coin for Tex.

  63. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Theres also the problem with the fact that most guys waive NTC to go to a contender or to get out of a bad situation. Tex is not in that spot on the Yankees.

  64. Yankee Trader March 26th, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    ac1

    Apparently according to Chad and Replacement Level Yankees blog both Tex and Grandy can’t be placed on the 60 day DL retroactive to their injury dates.

    I still really feel that Tex will have trouble with that wrist without surgery.

  65. Chad Jennings March 26th, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 4:01 pm e
    Can back date it to March 22 no?
    Like with Jeter.

    Apparently not. Chad said no yesterday, which is why the Yankees said no 60 day for either.

    Might be able to backdate it to the 22nd — not sure — but certainly can’t backdate it to the date Teixeira was hurt, and I was told yesterday that the Yankees do not think Teixeira is a 60-day candidate because they don’t think he’ll be out that long (or at least, they don’t want to lock themselves into him being out that long — 60 days, or 50 days, whatever the case may be).

  66. blake March 26th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    I don’t think Vernon will give them what they need this year…..but given that he will cost nothing in 2014 he could maybe be a good RH DH or something in 2014

  67. blake March 26th, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    @eboland11: Source: Yankees sign Overbay to minor league deal. should be in camp soon

    That didnt take long

  68. MG March 26th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    austinmac March 26th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
    MG,

    I will always root for the team on the field.

    I will gladly admit I was wrong if that is the case. However, if you have read anything I have written over the last six months my principal concern is in 2014 and beyond when they halve half of the team leaving.

    I assume you will admit you are wrong if the team does finish in the second division, and the managemnet is incompetent. Right? It does go both ways doesn’t It?
    ——————————-
    mac, I said that in the last sentence of the same post, quid pro quo…

  69. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Might be able to backdate it to the 22nd — not sure — but certainly can’t backdate it to the date Teixeira was hurt, and I was told yesterday that the Yankees do not think Teixeira is a 60-day candidate because they don’t think he’ll be out that long (or at least, they don’t want to lock themselves into him being out that long — 60 days, or 50 days, whatever the case may be).
    ___

    Because they are idiots. Tex will NOT be back before June, he even all but said it in his last interview.

  70. ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    WOW Overbay already? At least its a minor league deal, so we can sit in AAA, off the 40 man as a back up if Youk, Rivera and co get hurt. Just better not take up a roster spot…

  71. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Might be able to backdate it to the 22nd — not sure — but certainly can’t backdate it to the date Teixeira was hurt, and I was told yesterday that the Yankees do not think Teixeira is a 60-day candidate because they don’t think he’ll be out that long (or at least, they don’t want to lock themselves into him being out that long — 60 days, or 50 days, whatever the case may be).

    If its 50 days how could they NOT do it? So he misses an extra week in May? They know wrists are tricky. Thanks for the info. I think with this new info I will assume they can back date it, but are choosing not too. I don’t know why Jeter (who had an injury last year) could back date but Granderson and Tex who got injured this year would not.

  72. MG March 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    I’d rather have Overbay than Rivera to play 1st base, at least he can field and it gives them a chance to play Mustelier at 3rd against lefties.

    Right now Mustelier won’t make the team, most likely, if Rivera does so everyone who likes ‘Musty’ should hope Overbay hits the crap out of the ball for a few days.

  73. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    blake March 26th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
    @eboland11: Source: Yankees sign Overbay to minor league deal. should be in camp soon

    That didnt take long

    —————

    Nope – ok, that pretty well does it for Mustelier making the roster – the question is a) is he on the roster instead of or along with Rivera and b) if it’s along with Rivera – how do you now get a 6th rosters spot?

  74. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    ac1 March 26th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    WOW Overbay already? At least its a minor league deal, so we can sit in AAA, off the 40 man as a back up if Youk, Rivera and co get hurt. Just better not take up a roster spot…

    ——————

    Overbay didn’t opt out of his deal with Boston so that he could sit in Scranton rather than Pawtucket – my guess here is that before signing the deal he was given an assurance he would be on the major league roster come opening day.

  75. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    JF – I think anyone could be made uncomfortable enough to move. Tell him he’ll be platooned. Tell him he’ll be left out of the roll call. Tell him you’ll spit on his wife for all I care.. it can be done :twisted:

    Doreen – I dunno, I’m not sure I see the difference between a well crafted negative opinion and general venting. I’m not sure most posters on here see the difference all that clearly either. Why does it matter how the opinion is formed …? I’d guess it’s a pretty even mix and with most of the regulars it’s pretty easy to know where people are coming from.

  76. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    I really am not understanding why the Yankees can’t put Tex and Grandy on 60 day DL retroactively. Anyone understand the rules?

  77. Shame Spencer March 26th, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    It turns out that Martin wanted to stay with the Yankees so bad, he would have strongly considered a one-year deal for $9 million or $10 million, a source confirmed.

    —————

    That is pretty cray.

    And I’m gonna go ahead and ask Doreen to hide because if we really just signed Overbay this place will take doom and gloom to the 7th circle of hell and Satan will come back up crying at what we’ve inflicted upon him…..

    ………

    ………

    ………WHY?!

  78. Chip March 26th, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    So now you’re looking at a lineup vs. RHP of:

    Gardner – CF
    Ichiro – RF
    Cano – 2b
    Youk – 3b
    Hafner – DH
    Wells – LF
    Overbay – 1b
    Cervelli – C
    Nunez – SS

    and a bench of: Stewart, Nix, Rivera, Francisco.

  79. Jerkface March 26th, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    I really am not understanding why the Yankees can’t put Tex and Grandy on 60 day DL retroactively. Anyone understand the rules?

    Its either some snafu, or they can do it and are just choosing not too because they want them to be able to come back before the 3rd week of May.

  80. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Okay, so, while i was trying to research the DL stuff, Chad answered the question. So, they can back date it to a certain date, but not as far back as the injury occurred, if I understand correctly.

    And jerkface, obviously I agree, if 10 days gets you a roster spot in this situation, and 10 days can add a little breathing room to the rehab, why not?????

    Shame -

    I guess it’s a “feeling” thing, for me. I only speak for me. I could give you examples of well-crafted negative opinion verses venting as I see it, but it would serve no purpose whatsoever. :)

  81. Yankee Trader March 26th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Chad

    The torn tendon sheath involves the bottom hand when he bats from the left side. I’ve enclosed a pretty interesting article of why I think Tex will need surgery to keep the ECU (extensor carpi ulnaris) from subluxing or dislocating when he tries to recover and swing the bat.

    I hope I’m wrong as my knowledge is only based on staying at a HIE last night!

    http://pinstripepundits.com/20.....njury.html

  82. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    jerkface, one of the things I just read said that you cannot go back more than 5 days. But it’s written so cryptically, who the heck knows?

    I think the baseball rules need a major re-write.

  83. austinmac March 26th, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    We’ve all seen Mustelier play a bit. I don’t understand why they are adding so many retreads. His defense may be awful. I don’t know, but I would bet he would far outhit Overbay. Overbay’s recent stats are those of a middle infielder. First basemen need some pop.

  84. Doreen March 26th, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    From Baseball Reference.com:

    A player’s name can be put on the disabled list retroactively, dating back to the last day in which he took part in a game, but limited to five days.

    http://www.baseball-reference......abled_list

  85. austinmac March 26th, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    It appears from what Doreen posted, if they DLed Teixiera today, he would be eligible 5/21. I would be very pleasantly surprised if he is.

  86. austinmac March 26th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    –If he is able to playboy then, that is.


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