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Nuno named top rookie in Yankees camp

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 28, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A quick blog post while I’m packing seven weeks of my life into a suitcase…

Jose Pirela, Preston Claiborne and Brett Marshall were awfully good this spring, but there were really two candidates to be the Yankees top rookie in big league camp. Could have voted for Ronnier Mustelier (.314/.368/.571 with two homers including a walkoff), or could have voted for the guy who actually won the award. It was a close vote, and I’ll admit that I voted for the winner. Here’s the announcement from the Yankees (we’ll have to wait to find out whether Nuno will be announced as a member of the Opening Day roster).

The New York Yankees today announced that left-handed pitcher Vidal Nuno is the recipient of the 2013 James P. Dawson Award, given annually to the outstanding Yankees rookie in spring training. Nuno received the award in a pre-game ceremony today, prior to the Yankees’ 1:05 p.m. game vs. the Pirates at George M. Steinbrenner Field.

Nuno, 25, went 1-1 with one save and a 0.61 ERA (14.2IP, 1ER) in seven appearances (two starts) this spring (10H, 1R, 4BB, 13K). In 2012, he went 10-6 with a 2.54 ERA (138.1IP, 39ER) in 31 appearances (21 starts) with the Single-A Tampa and Double-A Trenton, leading all Yankees farmhands in ERA and strikeouts and tying for third in wins. A California native, he attended Baker University in Kansas and was signed by the Yankees as a Minor League free agent on June 18, 2011. Nuno was originally selected by the Cleveland Indians in the 48th round of the 2009 First-Year Player Draft.

The award was established in honor of James P. Dawson (1896-1953), who began a 45-year career with The New York Times as a copy boy in 1908. Eight years later, he became boxing editor and covered boxing and baseball until his death during spring training in 1953.

Two winners of the honor, Tony Kubek in 1957 and Tom Tresh in 1962, went on to win the American League “Rookie of the Year” Award. The award first was presented to rookie Norm Siebern by Manager Casey Stengel in St. Petersburg, Fla., at the conclusion of spring training in 1956. New York Yankees beat writers vote on the winner.

In conjunction with the award, Nuno received an Elysee watch from Manfredi Jewels.

James P. Dawson Award winners
· 1956…Norm Siebern OF
· 1957…Tony Kubek SS
· 1958…John Blanchard C
· 1959…Gordon Windhorn OF
· 1960… John James P
· 1961…Rollie Sheldon P
· 1962…Tom Tresh SS
· 1963…Pedro Gonzalez 2B
· 1964…Pete Mikkelsen P
· 1965…Arturo Lopez OF
· 1966…Roy White OF
· 1967…Bill Robinson OF
· 1968…Mike Ferraro 3B
· 1969…Jerry Kenney OF/ Bill Burbach P
· 1970…John Ellis 1B/C
· 1971…None Selected
· 1972…Rusty Torres OF
· 1973…Otto Velez OF
· 1974…Tom Buskey P
· 1975…Tippy Martinez P
· 1976…Willie Randolph 2B
· 1977…George Zeber INF
· 1978…Jim Beattie P
· 1979…Paul Mirabella P
· 1980…Mike Griffin P
· 1981…Gene Nelson P
· 1982…Andre Robertson SS
· 1983…Don Mattingly 1B
· 1984…Jose Rijo P
· 1985…Scott Bradley C
· 1986…Bob Tewksbury P
· 1987…Keith Hughes OF
· 1988…Al Leiter P
· 1989…None Selected
· 1990…Alan Mills P
· 1991…Hensley Meulens OF
· 1992…Gerald Williams OF
· 1993…Mike Humphreys OF
· 1994…Sterling Hitchcock P
· 1995…None Selected
· 1996…Mark Hutton P
· 1997…Jorge Posada C
· 1998…Homer Bush INF
· 1999…None Selected
· 2000…None Selected
· 2001…Alfonso Soriano 2B
· 2002…Nick Johnson 1B
· 2003…Hideki Matsui OF
· 2004…Bubba Crosby OF
· 2005…Andy Phillips INF
· 2006…Eric Duncan INF
· 2007…Kei Igawa P
· 2008…Shelley Duncan INF/OF
· 2009…Brett Gardner OF
· 2010…Jon Weber OF
· 2011…Manny Banuelos P
· 2012…David Phelps P
· 2013…Vidal Nuno P

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165 Responses to “Nuno named top rookie in Yankees camp”

  1. mick March 28th, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    seems like musty shoulda made it over boesch but what do i know…

  2. astrocityfan March 28th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    I think the injury and his options remaining gave them a convenient out for sending musty down. If he hasn’t shown them enough to see time in the majors this year, he never will. Hopefully he gets a call up when one of the retreads struggle.

  3. J. Alfred Prufrock March 28th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    astro, these guys only seem to get their chance when they change uniforms.

    It’s a miracle that no one took Cano off the Yankees’ hands, even though they tried to get rid of him three times…

    But for the Grace of God, there goes Cano… smh

  4. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    “Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Earth” … a Leonard Nimoy rocker.

    Tough to find the vinyl on this one.

  5. austinmac March 28th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    The years with no one selected for the award tells us all we need to know about the state of the minor league system during those periods.

  6. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    1995…None Selected

    When did Jeter come up ???

  7. Tar March 28th, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Tom

    I get it, fair enough. I adopted the Heels myself. The way you rooted for Georgia, I assumed they were your Alma mater, my mistake. Continue tweaking the Heels at will, I will now assume it’s because of Blake and his surliness. :D

    BTW Blake have you been following the Heels baseball team this year. They are unbelievable.

  8. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    think the injury and his options remaining gave them a convenient out for sending musty down. If he hasn’t shown them enough to see time in the majors this year, he never will. Hopefully he gets a call up when one of the retreads struggle.

    Mustelier isnt on the 40 man so they dont have to send him down, he is already down. The thing is, the other players they are going to take are also not on the 40 man. Mustelier isnt getting any younger and he has already played through this injury (its from when he ran into the fence) so

  9. astrocityfan March 28th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Yeah Pruf I know what you mean. Makes me think Adams might be the lucky one. He got a get out the minor league jail free card. If he signs on somewhere else I for one wouldnt blame him.

  10. MTU March 28th, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Seems like they could have used Ronnier to BU 3B and cover the OF corners.

    They could have or should have deleted one of Francisco/Boesch to do it.

    Couldn’t one or both of them be sent to AAA to rot instead of Mustelier who is talented and versatile ?

  11. astrocityfan March 28th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    The list of Dawson winners is really interesting. Some guys that got away and lots of busts.

  12. Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Didn’t the Yankees have to cut Rivera by yesterday to save that 100k? What happened with that?

  13. J. Alfred Prufrock March 28th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    astro, We wish these kids well when they leave. It gets depressing, though… when do we get to see them grow up in pinstripes???

  14. blake March 28th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    “BTW Blake have you been following the Heels baseball team this year. They are unbelievable.”

    Yup, they are loaded…..man I miss the days going to watch games there.

  15. blake March 28th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Tar says:
    March 28, 2013 at 11:02 pm
    Didn’t the Yankees have to cut Rivera by yesterday to save that 100k? What happened with that

    They released him today

  16. jmills March 28th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Who cares about la Jays,…I’m going to get to drive a Ferrari thru the dessert!

  17. tomingeorgia March 28th, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    Tar,
    Left out that the current Mrs Tom went to Villnova. To add to my transient nature, I’m now a confirmed NASCAR fan. Stepdaughter is in marketing for M&Ms, so I have a liking for Kyle’s Number 18 car, even if it;s a rice-burner. Come hell and high water, let’s go Yanks!

  18. Tyler March 28th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    jmills-

    Who would have thought the Leafs would be miles better than the Blues? Horrible time in sports right now for me with the Yanks having so many injuries.

  19. MTU March 28th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    Mills-

    Don’t be cheap.

    Go for the Bugatti Veyron.

    Pick me up in Utah.

    :)

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock March 28th, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    jmills, the guy on your back porch with the transistor cares a little, right? ;)

  21. Pat M. March 28th, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    Otto Velez, real good guy and a good ballplayer.

  22. MTU March 28th, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    Night All.

    Dulce Suenos.

    :)

  23. Tyler March 28th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Indiana starting to figure out that ‘Cuse zone. Hate zone defense but Syracuse really plays a fantastic one. So long and athletic…

  24. Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    “They released him today”

    And paid him 100K? Have you been since they remodeled, pretty nice? They have been home a lot lately ( or so it seems) and I have not been able to go. Home again this weekend and I’m out of town. sigh

  25. Tyler March 28th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:02 pm
    Didn’t the Yankees have to cut Rivera by yesterday to save that 100k? What happened with that?
    ——————————————————————–

    I believe he got his 100k…. I may be wrong though but I thought that deadline was back on Tuesday.

  26. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    OTTO VELEZ !
    Early 70′s….was decent for the Jays I recall…traded for who ?

  27. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    They paid Rivera 100k and then cut him, waste of money.

  28. Nilsson March 28th, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Up until Overbay became available, it’s likely Mustelier still had a shot to make the opening day MLB roster. At this point, even Overbay isn’t guaranteed a spot. If some first baseman who they like better becomes available shortly, then they’ll probably try him over Overbay.

    I’m actually intrigued by Ronnier’s bat. Heck, even the Grand Poobah himself, Stick Michael, is too. It’s a bit tough to gauge his upside right now, but he does deserve a shot. If he’s healthy, he should get ample opportunity this season.

  29. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    SYRACUSE lead down to … 9.
    Damn.

  30. Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    “They paid Rivera 100k and then cut him, waste of money.”

    So even when Cashman is right, he’s wrong! :evil:

  31. Tyler March 28th, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Nilsson March 28th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
    Up until Overbay became available, it’s likely Mustelier still had a shot to make the opening day MLB roster. At this point, even Overbay isn’t guaranteed a spot. If some first baseman who they like better becomes available shortly, then they’ll probably try him over Overbay.

    I’m actually intrigued by Ronnier’s bat. Heck, even the Grand Poobah himself, Stick Michael, is too. It’s a bit tough to gauge his upside right now, but he does deserve a shot. If he’s healthy, he should get ample opportunity this season.
    —————————————————————————

    His injury didn’t help but I feel like they’d somehow have left him off even without Overbay. Gone with Nix and Rivera and stuck Mustelier in AAA. Just seems to be the Yankee philosophy right now.

  32. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    They paid Rivera 100k and then cut him, waste of money.
    =========

    Sure. String the guy until the very last day, then dump him right at the deadline. I’m sure that kind of nickel-and-dime crap is good business.

  33. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Nilsson March 28th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
    Up until Overbay became available, it’s likely Mustelier still had a shot to make the opening day MLB roster. At this point, even Overbay isn’t guaranteed a spot. If some first baseman who they like better becomes available shortly, then they’ll probably try him over Overbay.

    I’m actually intrigued by Ronnier’s bat. Heck, even the Grand Poobah himself, Stick Michael, is too. It’s a bit tough to gauge his upside right now, but he does deserve a shot. If he’s healthy, he should get ample opportunity this season.

    ===========

    I suspect that Musty will get a shot at some point this year. He just can’t let his disappointment get him down.

  34. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Sure. String the guy until the very last day, then dump him right at the deadline. I’m sure that kind of nickel-and-dime crap is good business.

    Thats the point of the deadline and spring training invites.

  35. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Lyle Overbay seemed to appreciate being cut at the deadline, gave him enough time to hook on to the Yanks

  36. jmills March 28th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    ” First We Take Manhattan ” – Jenniffer Warnes

  37. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Sure. String the guy until the very last day, then dump him right at the deadline. I’m sure that kind of nickel-and-dime crap is good business.

    Thats the point of the deadline and spring training invites.
    ===============

    To waste his time and give him the shaft? Funny. I thought the point was to get a look at the players, and pick the guys who can help the club.

  38. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Give Rivera an extra $100,000…dump him….and also the majority on here wanted him dumped anyway…and it’s Cashman that gets bashed for ‘nickle & dimeing’,

    That’s a confusing one !

  39. Nilsson March 28th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Tyler March 28th, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    His injury didn’t help but I feel like they’d somehow have left him off even without Overbay. Gone with Nix and Rivera and stuck Mustelier in AAA. Just seems to be the Yankee philosophy right now.

    ———————————————————————————————————

    I don’t feel they were impressed with Juan Rivera this spring. That’s just my guess.

    As Ghostwriter mentioned, he will get a shot at some point this year. That’s my suspicion too.

  40. jmills March 28th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    Upstate, Otto Velez was a good pickup by the Jays.

  41. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    To waste his time and give him the shaft? Funny. I thought the point was to get a look at the players, and pick the guys who can help the club.

    Yea and they spent 100k needlessly. 2 days wasn’t going to change their evaluation of Juan Rivera.

  42. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    To waste his time and give him the shaft? Funny. I thought the point was to get a look at the players, and pick the guys who can help the club.

    Yea and they spent 100k needlessly. 2 days wasn’t going to change their evaluation of Juan Rivera

    ===========

    It’s interesting that you’re all of a sudden so interested in saving $100,000, when a couple of days ago you were telling me that several million dollars was “no big deal”.

  43. jmills March 28th, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    Tyler, I always liked your Blues, and,…Gary Unger!

  44. Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    “Sure. String the guy until the very last day, then dump him right at the deadline. I’m sure that kind of nickel-and-dime crap is good business.”

    Your right! they should have cut him at least a week ago!!!!

    But really, why was it” stringing along” and not just giving him every opportunity to impress?

  45. Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    “You’re”

    I need to go to bed. good night all.

  46. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    It’s interesting that you’re all of a sudden so interested in saving $100,000, when a couple of days ago you were telling me that several million dollars was “no big deal”.

    It is funny when someone so committed to saving money that they purposefully field an inferior team wastes 100k, yes.

  47. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    …..and if Prince Fielder was being made available by Detroit…and the wanted Musty….and we made the trade ……then Overbay would be let go.

    That’s how it goes.

    OH !…..but we’d NEVER trade Musty for ANYONE !!! (Waaaaay to valuable)

  48. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:38 pm

    SYRACUSE ….up by 14.

  49. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    Tar March 28th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    “Sure. String the guy until the very last day, then dump him right at the deadline. I’m sure that kind of nickel-and-dime crap is good business.”

    Your right! they should have cut him at least a week ago!!!!

    But really, why was it” stringing along” and not just giving him every opportunity to impress?
    ===============

    At this point people are just criticizing just for the sake of criticizing.

  50. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    It’s interesting that you’re all of a sudden so interested in saving $100,000, when a couple of days ago you were telling me that several million dollars was “no big deal”.

    It is funny when someone so committed to saving money that they purposefully field an inferior team wastes 100k, yes.
    ============

    How do you know it was wasted?

  51. Rich in NJ March 28th, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    The beat goes on.

  52. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    #1 Seed Indiana is losing by … 13.

    Damn that Cashman.

  53. hardwired7 March 28th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    Looking over Johan Santana’s great career #s, something jumped out at me: He pitched over 1,300 innings for the Twins. During that time, they paid him roughly $30M.

    The Mets saw just 717 innings from Santana. By the time they exercise the $5.5M buyout for 2014, they will have paid him over $100M.

    It’s great that Santana was able to get his jackpot at the Wilpons’ expense.

  54. Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    How do you know it was wasted?

    Rivera was released.

  55. Rich in NJ March 28th, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    During that time, they paid him roughly $30M.

    The Mets saw just 717 innings from Santana. By the time they exercise the $5.5M buyout for 2014, they will have paid him over $100M.
    _

    That’s why it’s often said that you pay a FA (or a prospective FA acquired in trades) for what they did as much as, or more than, what they will do.

  56. Pat M. March 28th, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    100 K, chump change, especially when you consider that he was a fallback guy .. Insurance policy of sorts. He’ll resurface and be thankful that The Yanks gave him a paid tryout and was noticed as a guy who can still play a role for a club.

  57. UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    “…100 K, chump change, especially when you consider that he was a fallback guy .. Insurance policy of sorts. He’ll resurface and be thankful that The Yanks gave him a paid tryout and was noticed as a guy who can still play a role for a club…”
    ==============================================

    Exactly.

  58. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Jerkface March 28th, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    How do you know it was wasted?

    Rivera was released.
    -

    Yes, I heard. That doesn’t answer my question. You have no idea what went into the the decision to retain him yesterday, and release him today. Apparently, that move had some value for the Yankees, because they chose to do it willingly with full knowledge. You weren’t privy to the discussions behind closed doors, and yet somehow you just know it was a waste, even though you’re operating with incomplete information.

  59. Ghostwriter March 28th, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    UpState March 28th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    “…100 K, chump change, especially when you consider that he was a fallback guy .. Insurance policy of sorts. He’ll resurface and be thankful that The Yanks gave him a paid tryout and was noticed as a guy who can still play a role for a club…”
    ==============================================

    Exactly.
    =========

    Ditto.

  60. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:02 am

    “100 K, chump change”

    The issue isn’t the amount, Pat.

    Given the recent Forbes valuation of $2.3b of the franchise, you can say the same thing about the money they think they are saving via austerity.

    You can justify either, both, or neither.

  61. UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:02 am

    SYRACUSE (4)….61
    Indiana (1)….50

    yeah.

  62. UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:04 am

    I believe the current austerity binge is not about todays actual dollar…

    but I think it ‘resets’ the luxury tax for the Yankees in the next ‘few’ years.

  63. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:06 am

    That’s irrelevant to my point, which is that money and savings are relative in the realm of their net valuation.

    So it’s easy to make an argument that any luxury tax savings/rebates isn’t really much money to them, and their pursuit of it may actually cost them money.

  64. UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:11 am

    Indiana couldn’t figure out the SYRACUSE 2-3 defense.

    Surprised that players at that level couldn’t figure it out …

    (even with the help of the additional 9 coaches they have on the sideline)

    —– Louisville was getting eaten alive by Syracuse in the Big East Finals (first half)…then Pitino made some changes at halftime and Louisville destroyed them in the second half.

    —– Pitino appears to be an excellent coach.

    (take note Indiana)

  65. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:12 am

    Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:06 am

    That’s irrelevant to my point, which is that money and savings are relative in the realm of their net valuation.

    So it’s easy to make an argument that any luxury tax savings/rebates isn’t really much money to them, and their pursuit of it may actually cost them money.
    ====

    So, the Yankees are irrational in reacting to the incentives created salary cap by cutting payroll. And the other 29 owners that voted for the cap are rational in constructional a salary cap regime with meaningless disincentive. This doesn’t make much sense.

  66. UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    “…So it’s easy to make an argument that any luxury tax savings/rebates isn’t really much money to them, and their pursuit of it may actually cost them money….”

    You could make that argument, however, you’d then need to explain what the austerity binge is really about…..if it is in fact NOT about the future Luxury Tax. What IS it about ?

  67. UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:20 am

    Johan Santana still owed $31.0 million.

    Spit happens….must be Sandy Alderson’s fault….idiot.

  68. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2013 at 12:24 am

    You could make that argument, however, you’d then need to explain what the austerity binge is really about…..if it is in fact NOT about the future Luxury Tax. What IS it about ?

    ———————-

    It’s about Oedipus. Or possibly, Inception.

  69. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:24 am

    UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    “…So it’s easy to make an argument that any luxury tax savings/rebates isn’t really much money to them, and their pursuit of it may actually cost them money….”

    You could make that argument, however, you’d then need to explain what the austerity binge is really about…..if it is in fact NOT about the future Luxury Tax. What IS it about ?
    =============

    Good question. I can think of at least three (of many) possibilities:
    1. They are trying to get their labor costs back into line, after spending extravagantly over the last several years.

    2. They have a bit of a cash flow crunch following the construction of the new stadium.

    3. They are preparing the team for sale.

    My feeling is that the first (and possibly the second) are the most likely possibilities. I don’t have any basis for the likelihood of the third possibility, but I seriously doubt it. And I am certain that the salary cap is having an impact on their decision-making.

  70. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:24 am

    “So, the Yankees are irrational in reacting to the incentives created salary cap by cutting payroll. And the other 29 owners that voted for the cap are rational in constructional a salary cap regime with meaningless disincentive. This doesn’t make much sense.”

    There you go overdrawing a point again.

    What doesn’t make sense is the idea that Hal has put forth that a team doesn’t need a $200m payroll in order to win based on his research because only one team with a $200m payroll has won a WS.

    What he failed to point out is that there have only been five such teams, and one one a WS, so a 20% success rate is pretty impressive.

    Another thing that makes no sense is that when he talks about how a team should be able to win given his proposed payroll restrictions, he fails to mention the impediments imposed by the dead money on the payroll, or that the young cost-controlled players he mentioned may not be ready to contribute.

    So taken together, that makes his continued goal of winning the WS every single year kind of illusory.

    But as Jerkface has pointed out:

    The Yankees paid 42.5% last year and the threshold was 178. Now the rate will be 50%. Then, in 2014 the threshold goes up to 189. So lets assume that at the end of the year including benefits the Yankees have an actual club payroll of 230.

    230-178*.5 = 26 million in tax
    230-189*.5 = 20.5 million

    They were going to get savings no matter what.

  71. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    UpState March 29th, 2013 at 12:20 am

    Johan Santana still owed $31.0 million.

    Spit happens….must be Sandy Alderson’s fault….idiot.
    =

    What happened to Santana?

  72. Tar March 29th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    “…100 K, chump change, especially when you consider that he was a fallback guy .. Insurance policy of sorts.”

    Chump change? Not to me.

    To me it’s just another example of many that shows a front office in disarray. One that can’t seem to multi-task or make definitive decisions in a timely manner. Many of us made a decision on this matter at least a week ago.

    But Brian and his “brain trust” who know so much more about baseball than any of us could ever dream of, couldn’t make the decision (that Rivera sucks at 1B!!!!!!) until today. eh, who cares 100k chump change. Yep plenty of chumps all right.

    I can’t help but think that this is not a well run Front office.

  73. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:31 am

    “Spit happens….must be Sandy Alderson’s fault….idiot.”

    Minaya made that trade, so you are half-right.

  74. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:32 am

    There you go overdrawing a point again.

    What doesn’t make sense is the idea that Hal has put forth that a team doesn’t need a $200m payroll in order to win based on his research because only one team with a $200m payroll has won a WS.

    What he failed to point out is that there have only been five such teams, and one one a WS, so a 20% success rate is pretty impressive.

    =========

    LOL! Talk about overdrawing a point! On a sample of 5! How many World Series have the Yanks won their payroll went over $150, million?

    And a liability of 0 is better than a liability of 20.5.

  75. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:34 am

    LOL! Talk about overdrawing a point! On a sample of 5! How many World Series have the Yanks won their payroll went over $150, million?
    __

    Dude, it’s Hal’s point.

    But as with his weather maps, Steinbrenner has significant statistical data at hand, particularly evidence showing that only once has a team with a $200 million payroll (the 2009 Yankees) won a World Series.

    “My firmly held belief is that you don’t have to have a $200 million payroll to be world champion,” he said last week in the team’s plush conference room at the spring training complex here. “And the historical data that led me to that conclusion is rock solid.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03.....&_r=0

  76. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:35 am

    Tar March 29th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    “…100 K, chump change, especially when you consider that he was a fallback guy .. Insurance policy of sorts.”

    Chump change? Not to me.

    To me it’s just another example of many that shows a front office in disarray….

    ========

    Really is there any possibility that you could possibly see anything but a front office in disarray? Weren’t you the guy that was questioning Cashman’s motives with respect to his charitable activities?

  77. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:35 am

    Generally you’re going to pay the 100k so you can keep the guy in your minors until June 1st, they got 4 extra ABs out of Rivera. Its funny.

  78. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:38 am

    HAL misses the point on payroll. He should look at how many playoffs teams with 200 mil payrolls have entered. Each playoffs is a chance to win the world series. He should also look at ‘the field’ and take note of how other teams make the playoffs or win the world series, the circumstances behind that, the external factors (division/league) and figure if he really wants the Yankees to act like other teams (lose a lot)

  79. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:38 am

    Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:34 am

    LOL! Talk about overdrawing a point! On a sample of 5! How many World Series have the Yanks won their payroll went over $150, million?
    __

    Dude, it’s Hal’s point.

    But as with his weather maps, Steinbrenner has significant statistical data at hand, particularly evidence showing that only once has a team with a $200 million payroll (the 2009 Yankees) won a World Series.

    “My firmly held belief is that you don’t have to have a $200 million payroll to be world champion,” he said last week in the team’s plush conference room at the spring training complex here. “And the historical data that led me to that conclusion is rock solid.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03…..&_r=0
    =========

    No, it’s your take on Hal’s point. Hal’s point is that you don’t have to overspend the league by enormous margins to be competitive. When the Yanks won four out of five WS in the late nineties, they weren’t outspending their rivals by over 30 percent. At some point, there are diminishing returns to money.

  80. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:39 am

    Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:35 am

    Generally you’re going to pay the 100k so you can keep the guy in your minors until June 1st, they got 4 extra ABs out of Rivera. Its funny.
    ======

    Bear with us: We can’t all be as brilliant as you.

  81. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:40 am

    Hal’s point is that you don’t have to overspend the league by enormous margins to be competitive. When the Yanks won four out of five WS in the late nineties, they weren’t outspending their rivals by over 30 percent. At some point, there are diminishing returns to money.

    HAL’s point is stupid, because the FIELD is the FIELD. You can take the field over 1 team, chances are someone in the field is going to win. That doesn’t prove the field is the best way to go about things. You look at any 1 team in the field and you see teams that don’t consistently make the playoffs or win the world series.

  82. Tar March 29th, 2013 at 12:42 am

    “Weren’t you the guy that was questioning Cashman’s motives with respect to his charitable activities?”

    No I was questioning people like you who were hero worshipping him for what can probably be more attributed to a mid life crisis event, than any great charitable yearning on his part.

    He got asked to jump out of plane, the whole charity portion came after the fact. But go ahead worship away.

  83. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:42 am

    Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:38 am

    HAL misses the point on payroll. He should look at how many playoffs teams with 200 mil payrolls have entered. Each playoffs is a chance to win the world series. He should also look at ‘the field’ and take note of how other teams make the playoffs or win the world series, the circumstances behind that, the external factors (division/league) and figure if he really wants the Yankees to act like other teams (lose a lot)
    =======

    Once you get to the playoffs, it’s a crapshoot. Spending $200 million doesn’t make you any more likely to win than the teams spending $160 million. Having a competitive payroll will help you get to the playoffs, but again, you don’t need to lap the field to do it.

  84. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:43 am

    No, it’s your take on Hal’s point. Hal’s point is that you don’t have to overspend the league by enormous margins to be competitive. When the Yanks won four out of five WS in the late nineties, they weren’t outspending their rivals by over 30 percent. At some point, there are diminishing returns to money.
    __

    ““My firmly held belief is that you don’t have to have a $200 million payroll to be world champion,””

    Compare the number of teams with a $200m payroll that have won the WS with those that had a lower payroll that won. It’s not close in terms of odds.

    He is missing the forest for the trees.

    But sure, if you have no pre-existing huge contracts to players who can no longer produce at a high level, a mL system that is churning out top talent, and the patience to develop them, even if it means taking a step back now and then, Hal is right, BUT that is not a state of facts that characterizes this franchise for the next few years, and if they have to win the WS every year, as Hal says, it may never be.

  85. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:45 am

    Tar March 29th, 2013 at 12:42 am

    “Weren’t you the guy that was questioning Cashman’s motives with respect to his charitable activities?”

    No I was questioning people like you who were hero worshipping him for what can probably be more attributed to a mid life crisis event, than any great charitable yearning on his part.

    He got asked to jump out of plane, the whole charity portion came after the fact. But go ahead worship away.
    ======

    I don’t hero-worship anybody, least of Cashman. I’m completely dispassionate about the man. You can try to prove otherwise if you like.

  86. Pat M. March 29th, 2013 at 12:47 am

    Face….What the hell, Rivera served a purpose, did all that was asked of him for 100 grand. so move on and he’ll be fine, the Yank improvr at firstbase, Rivera will have a return act my june the latest

  87. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:48 am

    Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:40 am

    Hal’s point is that you don’t have to overspend the league by enormous margins to be competitive. When the Yanks won four out of five WS in the late nineties, they weren’t outspending their rivals by over 30 percent. At some point, there are diminishing returns to money.

    HAL’s point is stupid, because the FIELD is the FIELD. You can take the field over 1 team, chances are someone in the field is going to win. That doesn’t prove the field is the best way to go about things. You look at any 1 team in the field and you see teams that don’t consistently make the playoffs or win the world series.
    ====================

    Nope. You’re still missing the point. The Red Sox have more WS than the Yanks in the last 10 years despite being outspent by a considerable margin.

  88. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:49 am

    What the hell, Rivera served a purpose, did all that was asked of him for 100 grand. so move on and he’ll be fine, the Yank improvr at firstbase, Rivera will have a return act my june the latest

    A return act where? Here? I don’t care about the 100k, I think its funny they spent it to look at him for 4 extra AB. It was pretty clear he wasn’t going to provide them what they were looking for before the deadline, coulda cut him for free.

  89. Tar March 29th, 2013 at 12:51 am

    “I don’t hero-worship anybody, least of Cashman. I’m completely dispassionate about the man.”

    OK Ghost I stand corrected, my apologies.

  90. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Nope. You’re still missing the point. The Red Sox have more WS than the Yanks in the last 10 years despite being outspent by a considerable margin.

    What? You’re the one still missing the point. The Red Sox have missed the playoffs the last 3 seasons and for many stretches inbetween their world series. Who wants to be like them? And you know whats funny both times they won the WS they were the 2nd highest payroll in baseball by a considerable margin, out spending their competitors by the same ratio that the Yankees outspent them!

  91. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Are we seriously suggesting that the Yankees winning the WS twice in a decade and missing the playoffs 8 years inbetween is better than winning once yet going to the playoffs each year?

  92. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 12:54 am

    ich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:43 am

    No, it’s your take on Hal’s point. Hal’s point is that you don’t have to overspend the league by enormous margins to be competitive. When the Yanks won four out of five WS in the late nineties, they weren’t outspending their rivals by over 30 percent. At some point, there are diminishing returns to money.
    __

    ““My firmly held belief is that you don’t have to have a $200 million payroll to be world champion,””

    Compare the number of teams with a $200m payroll that have won the WS with those that had a lower payroll that won. It’s not close in terms of odds.

    =========

    Small sample. You can repeat that point as many times as you like, but it won’t make your sample size any bigger, or a argument any more robust.

  93. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 12:55 am

    Two face your act is laaaame

  94. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:55 am

    The average payroll has doubled in size since 1998, yet the Yankees spending advantage over the average has only increased by 60%

  95. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:56 am

    “Small sample. You can repeat that point as many times as you like, but it won’t make your sample size any bigger, or a argument any more robust.”

    Hal set the sample size by citing $200m. Go to talk to him.

  96. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 12:56 am

    Hi everybody. The banning was based on a joke I told that mock’s southern culture. It was told by a southerner on comedy central. And the audience laughed because they understood the context. The man mocks his own culture.

  97. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 12:57 am

    I love women. Raised by a single mom. Have a sister. 2 nieces. yada yada

  98. Against All Odds March 29th, 2013 at 12:58 am

    Rich in NJ March 28th, 2013 at 11:41 pm
    The beat goes on.

    ————————-

    the Teflon GM

    why do I feel like Ted and Jim are here

  99. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 12:59 am

    But the blog is reactionary, with everything. Again, this is Bret The Hitman and I love women. I have never cheated nor physically harmed a female and have had girlfriends abused by their former partners.

  100. Against All Odds March 29th, 2013 at 1:00 am

    Well look who’s back unless this is a dupe account

  101. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 1:01 am

    My nieces are adorable, saw them Christmas, they love me, I love them. My mom is my best friend in the world. She laughs at the joke I told because she knows that it’s mocking southern culture not attacking women.

  102. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 1:02 am

    I’m glad you learned nothing.

  103. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 1:03 am

    Just got off the phone with my mom earlier. I talk with her almost every day. I’m her favorite of all my siblings. Don’t tell my sister. I repeat, i have more respect for women then anyone here knows. None of you know me in real life. None of you.

  104. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 1:04 am

    This is getting weird.

  105. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 1:05 am

    Two face you don’t know me in real life. And the blog really doesn’t benefit from your dimestore psychology. Blue Collar TV. That’s where I heard the joke. It’s popular here. I live in the south. Even women laugh at it here. You pretend to know things, you don’t.

  106. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 1:07 am

    For the record, I am not a malicious person. I am an upstanding man, pursuing a noble career who plans to contribute to posterity and the advancement of health for all men and all women.

  107. Bret The Hitman March 29th, 2013 at 1:09 am

    ahh.

    Justice.

  108. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 1:11 am

    You’re such an upstanding person that your apparent apology is telling the person that was offended by it to understand context, when you yourself have shown a complete misunderstanding of context in your deployment of a tasteless joke!

    Very good!

  109. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 1:12 am

    Finally, glad you set the record straight my man Brett!!

    It’s the internet though. I wouldn’t worry about it. It’s kind of just all a random mix of people and it’s hard to sort out things sometimes :)

  110. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 1:13 am

    Jerkface you acted like Brett murdered somebody :lol: He obviously didn’t. Go cry about it bro!!!

  111. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 1:14 am

    Great take, next caller.

  112. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 1:15 am

    Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 12:52 am

    Are we seriously suggesting that the Yankees winning the WS twice in a decade and missing the playoffs 8 years inbetween is better than winning once yet going to the playoffs each year?
    ====

    No. I’m pointing out that outspending the field by over 30 percent doesn’t make a team any likelier to win the win the World Series once the playoffs start. And even at $189 MM, the Yanks would still be spending more than just about any team out there.

  113. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 1:17 am

    A defense of Cashman/Hal, etc. was never so welcome.

    Weird indeed.

  114. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 1:18 am

    Was that the real Brett???

  115. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 1:18 am

    Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 12:56 am

    “Small sample. You can repeat that point as many times as you like, but it won’t make your sample size any bigger, or a argument any more robust.”

    Hal set the sample size by citing $200m. Go to talk to him.
    ================

    So, it’s Hal’s fault that you’re making a crappy argument…

  116. Ghostwriter March 29th, 2013 at 1:18 am

    Good night, al…

  117. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2013 at 1:20 am

    “So, it’s Hal’s fault that you’re making a crappy argument…”

    “A defense of Cashman/Hal, etc. was never so welcome.”

    I lied.

    You haven’t refuted anything. As usual.

  118. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 1:20 am

    I’m out too.

    Gnite Jerkface and Rich in NJ.

    I trust you guys to hold down the fart.

  119. LGY March 29th, 2013 at 1:25 am

    Yankee revenues are rising, tickets and other such costs are continually increasing for the fans, and the Yankees are planning to reduce payroll.

    Baffling there are actually people on this blog that support this type of blatant corporate greed.

  120. UnKnown March 29th, 2013 at 1:31 am

    Wow I checked back after the Indy vs. Cuse game and saw over 100 comments I figured something “odd” was up for a post this late.

    Guess I was right. Holy Schnikes.

  121. Jerkface March 29th, 2013 at 1:44 am

    You won’t see Anraku pitching in a professional game next year. Or the year after that. That’s because Anraku is a 16-year-old sophomore righthander at Saibi High in Ehime Prefecture, with a fastball that already touches 94 mph and potential that could make him a millionaire if he were to sign as an international free agent.

    Pitching on Tuesday in “Spring Koshien,” Japan’s major spring national high school invitational tournament, Anraku made a name for himself with his talent and his pitch count, throwing 232 pitches in a 13-inning complete game. Anraku allowed three runs in Saibi’s 4-3 win, struck out 13, walked five and surrendered 10 hits (see the condensed game video at the end of this story

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....ek.twitter

    Poor kid, the Koshien is a big honkin deal in Japan, but this is just brutal. Way too many pitches.

  122. LGY March 29th, 2013 at 1:49 am

    The Yankees have cut costs from top to bottom over the last few years.

    How many times has Hal said that their prospects are the key to fielding a championship caliber team while getting under the $189M threshold.

    Yet, they have made significant cuts to their draft and IFA budget over the past few years.

    How does that make sense?

    Hal is cutting corners every place he can and lining his wallet along the way.

  123. Locke March 29th, 2013 at 3:11 am

    Bret The Hitman says:
    March 29, 2013 at 1:03 am
    Just got off the phone with my mom earlier. I talk with her almost every day. I’m her favorite of all my siblings. Don’t tell my sister. I repeat, i have more respect for women then anyone here knows. None of you know me in real life. None of you.

    Rich in NJ says:
    March 29, 2013 at 1:04 am
    This is getting weird.

    Bret The Hitman says:
    March 29, 2013 at 1:05 am
    Two face you don’t know me in real life. And the blog really doesn’t benefit from your dimestore psychology. Blue Collar TV. That’s where I heard the joke. It’s popular here. I live in the south. Even women laugh at it here. You pretend to know things, you don’t.

    Bret The Hitman says:
    March 29, 2013 at 1:07 am
    For the record, I am not a malicious person. I am an upstanding man, pursuing a noble career who plans to contribute to posterity and the advancement of health for all men and all women.

    ————–

    I must have missed an epic joke.

  124. Cujo March 29th, 2013 at 3:48 am

    NEW YORK — Alex Rodriguez will make more this year than all the Houston Astros combined — a lot more.

    And he won’t even play the first half of the season — if at all.

    A-Rod’s $29 million salary tops the major leagues for the 13th consecutive season, according to a study of major league contracts by The Associated Press.

    Rodriguez’s Yankees are on track to have the highest payroll on Opening Day for the 15th straight year, climbing above the Los Angeles Dodgers to a projected $228 million with this week’s acquisition of Vernon Wells.

    With teams due to set Opening Day rosters Sunday, the Yankees’ payroll will be nearly 10 times the spending of the Astros, who have shrunk their payroll to about $25 million

    ==============

    LOL ! ! !

  125. Tackelberry March 29th, 2013 at 7:30 am

    Santana. Met fans are blaming Cashman for that one.

  126. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 7:31 am

    I just read opening day is not yet a sell out. Not surprising when the only stories about the team were about cost cutting. That doesn’t fire up a fan base already questioning the team’s direction.

    Baseball is entertainment. When the fans think the product is not entertaining, watch out.

  127. pkyankfan69 March 29th, 2013 at 7:31 am

    .314/.371/.488/.859 in AA/AAA last year.

    .314/.368/.571/.939 in spring training.

    Plays 3B and corner OF, positions we are weak/thin at, at the moment.

    And according to Girardi, he wasn’t going to make the team anyway even before they learned of his injury.

    Of course the Yanks would rather go with old, over-the-hill players like Wells and Overbay. Wells and Overbay have combined to OPS below .700 in 3 out of their last 4 years.

    When did the Yankees decision making get so horrendous?

  128. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:35 am

    Some strange things going on here last night.

    Anyway, Good morning LoHud faithful.

  129. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:38 am

    “And according to Girardi, he wasn’t going to make the team anyway even before they learned of his injury.”

    That statement is as discouraging as it is amazing.

    :(

  130. blake March 29th, 2013 at 7:38 am

    “Hal is cutting corners every place he can and lining his wallet along the way.”

    Yup

  131. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:39 am

    Chad-

    You must own one heck of a large suitcase.

    :)

  132. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Blake-

    The failure to seriously compete for guys like Chapman, Cespedes, and others told me a lot about where the Yankees were at.

    It formed the basis of why I hypothesize that they want to sell. It could also be that they were seriously misguided.

    You don’t add more than you think you need when you are just fattening the steer for market.

    If I’m wrong about Hal I’ll be glad to apologize. Guess we’ll see soon enough.

  133. blake March 29th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    Looking to boost offense in midseason and replace free-agent-to-be Curtis Granderson long term, the Yankees package Jose Ramirez and Mason Williams to the Dodgers for Andre Ethier, available because prospect Yasiel Puig is ready.

    http://bit.ly/16lqi20

    Lord help is if they do something like this

  134. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    “Lord help is if they do something like this”

    Amen.

    They couldn’t be that stupid could they ?

  135. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:53 am

    I honestly believe that the Yankees think they have things covered, or close to covered, for the next few years.

  136. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Time for the most important meal of the Day.

    :)

  137. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._fine.html

    An article by a guy at the Star Ledger whi usually has nothing good to say, especially about my Yankees

  138. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2013 at 8:20 am

    When did the Yankees decision making get so horrendous?
    ////

    They’ve been making horrendous decisions for over three years now. I don’t know why any of this comes as a great surprise. The phony tax business, maybe, but as far as player evaluations go, they’ve done nothing but make horrendous decisions IMO.

    Every trade Cashman has made, combined with every player on the open market they’ve ignored, has brought them to this moment of fulfillment: being the oldest team in baseball and sporting a lineup of has-beens.

    And trading away Jo-Ram and Mason? Really, as nightmarish as that would be (for Ethier, of all people), it would just be par for the course. Are they “that stupid,”?

    They have already BEEN “that stupid,” since 2010.

    It’s ridiculous that one has to take solace that Ramirez is currently hurt. Seriously, I don’t know why any of this is surprising to anyone.

  139. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    Doreen-

    I agree that the Pitching will be top notch.

    Trouble is the O.

    Will they score enough runs ? Can they keep their older players on the field ?

    Little things like that.

    I also disagree that teams like the Jays are “Paper Tigers”.

    The competition everywhere seems as good or better than last year.

    Don’t know what he’s seeing. Guess we’ll see.

    ;)

  140. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Doreen-

    And if he thinks the Jays are full of questionable retreads he should take a look at the Yankees.

    ;)

  141. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    Doreen-

    Good morning. Just finished reading the article you enclosed. Have some concerns about the bullpen and am waiting to see who the Yankees bring North to man the bullpen, which will be needed quite frequently in April as the starters try to increase pitch counts in the colder weather.

  142. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    There have been allusions in a subscription-based online publication that the Yankees have speculated that Jo-Ram doesn’t have the “confidence” to be a big-time starter. Now, I have no idea where that came from, but I’ve seen it said a couple of times by the guy who runs that thing and who interacts with all the minor-league Yankee honchos, so he’s getting it from somewhere.

    Just have to hope they have changed their minds about that, if indeed that was a prevailing sentiment. This ST certainly would seem to have altered such a view.

  143. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Good morning all.

    Would you trade Jose Ramirez and Mason Williams for Giancarlo Stanton?

    I was really impressed with Ramirez this spring. Had he not had that one bad outing, he would have been in the running for the Dawson Award.

  144. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    JAP-

    That would be one of the more ridiculous statements I’ve ever heard.

    You mean a young starter w/o ML experience might be underconfident ?

    Imagine that. What insight.

    Guess he never heard that experience and success breed confidence.

    Apparently some think it falls off trees.

    :)

  145. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Ethier would probably be their best outfielder, but please don’t trade two top prospects for a 30+ year old. Good grief, don’t trade one.

    The biggest mistakes have been staying out of the international market. There good, young players could have been obtained for relatively low amounts of money. Can you imagine how much better the outfield would look with Cespedes? Or how much more ready and probably athletic Puig is than anyone we have? Or Darvish and Montero?

    Instead they spend $13 million on a player who has been a laughingstock for several years.

  146. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    YT-

    Yes. I would but they wouldn’t.

    ;)

  147. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    Would you trade Jose Ramirez and Mason Williams for Giancarlo Stanton?
    ///

    YT,

    Aye :)

  148. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    MTU

    The offense has a chance to be what people here have been craving – less reliant on the HR, with more speed elements and perhaps some guys who will be better situationally than, say, Russell Martin. Not saying they’ll be a juggernaut by ny means, but I believe Politi’s point was they should be ble to score enough runs and the pitching is very good, good enough starting and bullpen, to allow them to win.

    I think all the teams in their division are close. Not paper tigers, legitimately all have a chance. It could be an exciting season with a bonafide pennant race. Until and unless the Yankees show on the field that they’re in over their heads, they should be in the thick if it this year.

    If theyre in the midst of a rebuilding, or restructuring of how they do business, this is a good scenario. Bludgeoning your opponents is fun of course, but outlasting a competitive field is also fun ( though more nerve-wracking ).

  149. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 8:38 am

    YT,

    I would make that trade in a minute. The Marlins would not. They could get prospects from the top 10 for him.

  150. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Guess he never heard that experience and success breed confidence.

    Apparently some think it falls off trees.
    ///

    Whenever the guy inexplicably makes these allusions to “character” issues, and does so specifically, you know where it’s coming from. Because when any of his readers make baseless allusions to character, the guy is all over them.

    He has said this a handful of times, like: “There’s a question whether Ramirez has enough confidence to work through a lineup a third time,”; not the pitches, the “confidence.”

    Where’s “there”? Where’s “a question” coming from? The Yankees.

  151. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Yankee Trader

    The one thing in the article that is a red flag to what he had to dpsay was including Aardsma’s as a strength based on his pre-surgery success. He probably hasn’t even seen Aardsma’s pitch. But if it’s nitbAardsma it will be someone else, so I do think the pen is strong.

    I expect Aardsma’s to make the team, and it will be interesting to see how long a leash he is on. It is possible that he just needs more innings, but they can’t afford to give away games that should be won

  152. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Doreen,

    They added Wells and his .218 average, Youkilis and his .230 average, and Hafner and his .230 average.. If everyone has a bounce back, yes the offense could be okay. But, look at the last two years of each player and project that, and the offense is very bad. Very bad.

    I don’t see they have done anything but add guys with less power and lower batting averages. Am I missing something?

  153. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    No, the Marlins would not. But they would be getting a dynamite young starter and CF, if they did.

    Any way, Stanton is too young to play for the Yankees.

  154. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Doreen-

    You are preaching to the choir when you speak of a multi-dimensional O.

    My concern, clearly stated above, has to do with the ability of some of our power guys to bounceback and stay healthy, i.e. Hafner and Youkilis.

    I’m not that worried about guys like GGBG, Ichiro, or even Nunez. I expect them to set the table quite well. It’s the guys who will need to drive them in (minus Cano) that concern me.

  155. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Based on what you have seen during ST should this be the 7 bullpen arms going North with the team?

    Rivera
    Robertson
    Chamberlain
    Logan
    Nuno
    Claiborne
    one of Kelley/Aardsma although neither looked that good. Someone else?

    Will Cashman make at least one significant trade, taking some of the players who will have to be cut from the 40 man roster, in a deal for another arm or bat?

  156. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:47 am

    New one —–>

  157. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    A trade is still possible, I would think.

    Aardsma has not looked very good to me. He has never been a command guy, and now, instead of 97 he throws 92. I like Clairborne better, but we all know vets always prevail.

  158. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:48 am

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  159. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Austinmac,

    Given that they had to deal with replacing two guys who were healthy and expected to be huge run producers at a time when pickings were slim, who else?

    And tell me how from their minor league system was ready to step in for Tex and Grandy and produce any better thabpn who they picked up?

    I understand the argument that perhaps they should have picked up better bench players in December. I understand that they let catcher and RF stand open when it looked like there were some decent options, at least for catcher, as far as we are aware.

    But since everything stems from the 189, it is what it is and you go from there. They have some guys who will get on base. And who have the speed to go first to third and second to home and maybe score on some sac flies that did not happen last year. That is actually an improvement. Youk looks good so far, and let’s see about Wells, because what choice is there. Let’s see how it plays out in the field.

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