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Getting out of Tampa

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 29, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees listed 43 players to leave Tampa last night and travel to Washington D.C. for the first of two final exhibition games before Opening Day. Barring a late-minute trade or waiver claim, the Yankees will trim 18 from this group to settle on an Opening Day roster. Some cuts will, obviously, be easier than others.

These are the players making the trip.

STARTING PITCHERS
Hiroki Kuroda
Locked in as the Yankees No. 2 starter following a strong Yankees debut last year.
Ivan Nova
Has not had a great spring, but still locked into a spot in the big league rotation. For now.
Vidal Nuno
Terrific spring training that might have been enough to win a bullpen spot if the Yankees can fit him on the 40-man.
Andy Pettitte
Actually read to break camp with the team this year after staying behind last spring.
David Phelps
Will clearly make the team. Whether he opens in the rotation or the bullpen depends on Phil Hughes.
CC Sabathia
The ace.
Adam Warren
Optioned to Triple-A, but could find a spot on the roster if the Yankees need a long reliever who’s already on the 40-man

RELIEVERS
David Aardsma
Despite a so-so endorsement from Joe Girardi on Wednesday, still seems to have a bullpen job locked up.
Juan Cedeno
Nice Triple-A season last year, but probably behind Spence and Nuno for a left-handed relief job.
Joba Chamberlain
No broken ankle or busted elbow, just a seventh-inning job waiting for him this year.
Preston Claiborne
Upper-level relief prospect who quietly had a great spring.
Cody Eppley
Terrible spring training but could sneak onto the roster because of last year’s solid results.
Shawn Kelley
Might actually be a roster favorite given his spot on the 40-man, his solid spring numbers and the Yankees bullpen openings.
Boone Logan

The top lefty in the pen, only question is whether he’ll be the only lefty in the pen.
Jim Miller
Pitched well last year. Pitched well this spring. But he’s not on the 40-man.
Kelvin Perez
Up from minor league camp to provide an extra arm if necessary.
Branden Pinder
Relief prospect who’s stuck around all spring. Inevitably heading for the minors.
Mariano Rivera
The Greatest.
Dave Robertson
The setup man.
Josh Spence
Experienced left-hander had a good spring. Could have a job if the Yankees want another left-on-left specialist to replace Clay Rapada.

CATCHERS
Francisco Arcia
Up from minor league camp to provide an extra catcher.
Francisco Cervelli
Terrific spring behind the plate. Emerged as the favorite to get the bulk of the catching starts.
Chris Stewart
Caught CC Sabathia’s last spring start. Does that mean he’ll catch on Opening Day?
Bobby Wilson
Inevitably heading to Triple-A as veteran insurance.

INFIELDERS
Robinson Cano
Best player on the team.
Travis Hafner
Listed as an infield as some sort of joke, I assume.
Dan Johnson
Any remote chance of making the team surely died with the arrival of Overbay.
Jayson Nix
Basically locked into a job as the Yankees utility infielder.
Eduardo Nunez
Opening Day shortstop.
Lyle Overbay
Brought in on a three-day tryout to prove he can fill-in at first base for a while. Seems to have already won the job.
Jose Pirela
Up from minor league camp to provide some utility depth.
Mark Teixeira
Injured and unable to play.
Gil Velazquez
Veteran utility man likely heading to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre to provide insurance.
Kevin Youkilis
Starting third baseman, who should see some platoon time at first.

OUTFIELDERS
Zoilo Almonte
Up from minor league camp to provide additional outfield depth.
Brennan Boesch
Left-handed outfield bat signed mid-spring. Clearly in line to win a spot.
Ben Francisco
Right-handed outfield bat signed mid-spring. Clearly in line to win a spot.
Brett Gardner
Looks like the Opening Day center fielder and leadoff hitter.
Melky Mesa
Chances of making the team took a hit with the Francisco signing and the Wells trade. Spring offensive decline didn’t help.
Thomas Neal
Quietly had a very nice spring. Still seems ticketed for the minor leagues.
Ichiro Suzuki
Starting right fielder.
Vernon Wells
This week’s trade brought the Yankees their new everyday left fielder (at least until Granderson is healthy).

* Dan Otero was listed on the travel roster, but I’m not sure that will still happen now that he’s been designated for assignment.

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132 Responses to “Getting out of Tampa”

  1. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Yawwwwn. Morning all. Seems like we had a very weird night on the blog…

    Have we traded Gardner yet?

  2. Cashmoney March 29th, 2013 at 8:51 am

    Sabean attended Concord High School and Eckerd College (of St. Petersburg, Florida), playing with former major leaguer Joe Lefebvre on both school’s baseball teams.[1] Prior to starting his scouting career, Sabean coached the University of Tampa (D-II) to the NCAA Regional Tournament. He held the job of head coach with UT from 1983 to 1984 – following serving as assistant coach from 1980–1982. Sabean began his involvement in Major League Baseball as a scout, and previously worked in the New York Yankees organization. With the Yankees, he drafted or signed as amateurs the likes of Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, J. T. Snow, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte. Prior to his appointment to GM in 1996, Sabean served one season as the Giants’ senior vice president, player personnel in 1995 after a three-year stint as an assistant to the general manager and vice president of scouting/player personnel.

  3. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:53 am

    Good morning again.

    Why is Dan Johnson still in camp?

    Shame-

    What was weird?

  4. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Expecting Youkilis, Hafner, Overbay, and Wells to both stay on the field for a good part of the season as well as to provide credible O is the ultimate in trying to catch lightning in a bottle.

    Actually IMO, it’s more like catching the greatest ligthning bolt ever seen and squeezing it into the tiniest bottle ever seen.

    Miracles do happen though.

    ;)

  5. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Cashmoney-

    Pretty impressive resume and especially finding baseball talent.

  6. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    YT-

    You should see mine.

    :)

  7. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 8:55 am
    Austinmac,

    Given that they had to deal with replacing two guys who were healthy and expected to be huge run producers at a time when pickings were slim, who else?

    And tell me who from their minor league system was ready to step in for Tex and Grandy and produce any better thabpn who they picked up?

    I understand the argument that perhaps they should have picked up better bench players in December. I understand that they let catcher and RF stand open when it looked like there were some decent options, at least for catcher, as far as we are aware.

    But since everything stems from the 189, it is what it is and you go from there. They have some guys who will get on base. And who have the speed to go first to third and second to home and maybe score on some sac flies that did not happen last year. That is actually an improvement. Youk looks good so far, and let’s see about Wells, because what choice is there. Let’s see how it plays out in the field.

  8. 4TrainNorth March 29th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    How long before Nova is out of this rotation?

  9. Cashmoney March 29th, 2013 at 8:58 am

    YT, i was trying to recollect who was the scouting director who drafted those guys, I remember Sabean was around at that time and departed for SF Giants because I think he was vying for the GM job with the Yankee and obviously did not get it. So i look it up on Wiki, I always thought he was good talent evaluator.

  10. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 8:59 am

    MTU-

    Add to that list above, Derek Jeter. Who knows how much playing time he’ll be able to be at SS, vs DH?

  11. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    YT-

    Of course. And I agree with you that it seems likely that Tex will face surgery at some point.

    70% chance. Odds favor it happening.

    Too much age-related risk. It’s been there a while.

    I was hoping we’d get Upton to infuse some more of what we need.

    And I hope, though I now doubt, that we see Ronnier. I think he could have been a difference maker.

  12. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Doreen-

    No offense but ST is not a predictor of future performance.

    It’s pretty meaningless. It’s just a time to prepare. That’s all.

  13. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Trader – I believe Bret’s ban is over…? Or he found a new IP. Not quite sure lol, but it was real real weird.

  14. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Time to walk the Pupperazzi.

    later.

  15. joeman March 29th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    jeter won’t see 100 games total this year…..Tex is a long way from coming back & Granderson is still feeling pain in arm, forget about Arod….83-79 season

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock March 29th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Sabean began his involvement in Major League Baseball as a scout, and previously worked in the New York Yankees organization. With the Yankees, he drafted or signed as amateurs the likes of Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, J. T. Snow, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte. Prior to his appointment to GM in 1996, Sabean served one season as the Giants’ senior vice president, player personnel in 1995 after a three-year stint as an assistant to the general manager and vice president of scouting/player personnel.
    ///

    Cashmoney, would that he were our GM.

  17. joeman March 29th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    right now Gardner might be their 2nd best position player…boy he’s come a long way or it tells you how good this team will be

  18. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    I definitely understand the sentiment that, ‘okay this is where we are, these are the decisions made, and we need to go from here.’ But that’s more of an org attitude than a fan attitude. Like with Wells… yes, there is ‘no point’ in complaining because they signed him, he’s here, and we’re all ultimately going to root for the guy because we root for the Yankees. But I don’t think those factors should discourage anyone from being vocal about why a lot of the moves made are incongruous with one another.

    Of course we’ll all live with it lol, because we don’t have real decision making power to change it. And of course we’ll all root for and hope for the best from all of these guys we’re mocking. But the more non-linear moves that are made, the more unrest rises up from the fans that are desperate for some decisiveness from the franchise.

  19. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    MTU

    then it’s not a predictor for any player, not just who we pick and choose.

  20. ac1 March 29th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    How long before Nova is out of this rotation?
    ___

    In a world where the best 25 players made the roster, I would say Phelps is our 5th starter (When Hughes returns) and Nova goes to AAA to work on some things. But based on what we have seen, Phelps will probably end up in long relief, which will hurt him now and make it harder to count on him to be a starter in 2014.

  21. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    joeman March 29th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    jeter won’t see 100 games total this year…

    ————–

    Don’t say that!

  22. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Doreen-

    Still have some concerns about all these offensive acquisitions:

    Overbay was strictly a platoon player facing righties only last year in Arizona.

    Youkilis is a better 1st baseman than third baseman, and won’t have the Green Monster to play with any more.

    Wells, based on last years “spray” chart at Angels Stadium, is strictly a pull hitter, and had no homers to right in that stadium. The short time he’s been a Yankee,, has he even shown that he can go the other way?

    How many right handed players on the team can drive the ball the other way? Jeter. Had they added Mustelier to the team they would have another.

    This team will face the “dreaded” Shift night after night.

  23. joeman March 29th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Nats sure have a nice team & all for under 100 mil, will be low- middle 90′s in wins this season

  24. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Phelps will probably end up in long relief

    —————-

    Don’t say that!

  25. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    No one say anything! We’ve already injured multiple players! :twisted:

  26. ac1 March 29th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    jeter won’t see 100 games total this year…..Tex is a long way from coming back & Granderson is still feeling pain in arm, forget about Arod….83-79 season
    __

    I think Jeter will be back sooner than we think, but DH a lot more. Nunez will be a regular this year and I believe this is Jeter’s last year at SS. Next year will be that year they tell him he needs to move to 3rd base (or 2nd base if Cano leaves). Nunez will continue to improve and should be the regular SS in 2014. Alex will be the full time DH (kinda have to in order to try to keep his bat in the lineup)….

  27. ac1 March 29th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Wells, based on last years “spray” chart at Angels Stadium, is strictly a pull hitter, and had no homers to right in that stadium. The short time he’s been a Yankee,, has he even shown that he can go the other way?
    ___

    We often forget because of the short wall in RF, that the line in LF is 318. If he is completely pull happy, i expect a lot of homeruns right down the lf line.

  28. ac1 March 29th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    This team will face the “dreaded” Shift night after night.
    __

    The first team to be shifted where every infielder, including the first baseman is on the left side of the infield? :)

  29. joeman March 29th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:11 am
    joeman March 29th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    jeter won’t see 100 games total this year…

    ————–

    Don’t say that!

    —————————————

    I have seen people with the injury he had still feeling the effect after a year…

  30. Tar March 29th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    “But since everything stems from the 189, it is what it is and you go from there.”

    I understand 189, don’t really agree but I get it. My issue is they are simply treading water. Not really trying to get better, just stay good enough to keep interest in the team up.

    This is the Yankees, you are either all in or you are not. I would have preferred a fire sale, than the 4 or 5 stop gap measures we got. This playing the middle is baloney.

    Having said all that, once the real games start I will be on board. My dislike for the front office moves has nothing to do with the players on the diamond. I actually like Wells and Overbay and You.. ( I cant type it :D ) I don’t expect much from them, so maybe I will be surprised.

    Have a nice day everyone.

  31. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Actually IMO, it’s more like catching the greatest ligthning bolt ever seen and squeezing it into the tiniest bottle ever seen.

    —————

    Fill that bottle with a little water, methane, ammonia and hydrogen and that lightning will produce life itself.

    But will will this life be intelligent enough to produce more runs that it allows? Or are we looking at a lineup filled with trilobites? :wink:

  32. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    ac1. Didn’t a Tex hr just clear that wall just fair to help win a playoff game in 2009?? :)

    Yankee Trader, of course there are concerns. Lots of them. But I’m not ready to answer everything in the minus column just yet.

    If Overbay can save some errors while Tex is out, I think they are ahead of the game. I guess the way the Yankees saw things, no one was all that good at third and their best bet, at least for now, is Youkilis. I wish Ronnie M didn’t go and hurt himself. I realize his chances ere probably slim, but who knows if he had gotten in another 2 or 3 games at third and handled some more chances, well, whatever.

    I’m just choosing to be vocal about trying to make the best of an uncertain situation.

  33. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    The shift will be an issue for this team.. I’m hoping Girardi is really aggressive in those spots. If I’m him, I’m working on getting the guys to practice bunting just so I can employ some surprises and not let the D get too comfortable. I hope we see a lot of hit and running in those situations as well.

  34. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    I think it’s either tread water or throw it all out if they’re committed to the 189 and “restructuring.”

    I guess it comes to this. Do you prefer them fielding a team that has zero chance, becaue it is made up of AAA/AAAA players, or a team that while certainly not what were used probably hasa good chance to at least be in the mix (which we shall find out soon enough)?

    If they are a failing team, we get to see if Hal is true to his word about canning the budget if he can’t field a playoff or contending team.

    Plus, I am of the opinion that the Yankees are in the precarious position of not being able to nnounce they’re scrapping a season. If you think tickets sales have gone down so far, imagine where they’d be if they pretty much came out and said, we’re sacrificing this season ( and possibly next)?

  35. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    The Yankees have scored 136 runs in 31 ST games, the lowest on any MLB team. I realize this is not a predictor of future outcome.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings

  36. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Imagine if you have Tex, Wells and Youk all back to back in the order and boom boom boom they lay down 3 bunts in a row.

  37. blake March 29th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Sherman’s column this morning makes me afraid a bad trade is coming……he’s just speculating but he has his finger on the pulse of what the Yanks are thinking better than most…….

  38. Mike Ri March 29th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    YOUUUUUUUUKKKKKKK !!!!!!!!

  39. Cashmoney March 29th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    In Youk we trust?

  40. Cashmoney March 29th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    I can picture Trish building a mini altar of Youk right now!

  41. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Doreen,

    Cashman has done what he could in February. However, in December he knew Swisher and Martin would be gone, AROD would be out a long time and Jeter iffy. It was obvious to me they needed offense then.

    I don’t pretend to be able Tito say what was available via trade. I was in the sign Hamilton and trade Granderson crowd.

    No, it is not my money.

  42. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Yankee trade

    Not too encouraging, but I’m hoping part of the problem was that this was a team in full audition mode for the entirety of spring training.

  43. Cashmoney March 29th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    blake, as a professional Yeti Hunter I am surprised the word ‘afraid’ is even in your vocabulary.

  44. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Doreen-

    If the pitching, from top to bottom, holds up, the Yankees have a chance. No lengthy DL stints.

  45. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    blake – Uh huh. It’s worrisome. Especially if they wouldn’t pursue a talent like Upton but give up big prospects for a guy like Ethier.

  46. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Besides lightening.. what else can we catch in a bottle…?

  47. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Is it wrong that I wish they would have added Giambi over Wells…?

  48. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Austinmac

    He knew about ARod, and like him or not he got Youkilis. He had Nunez and Nix already in place to spell Jeter if necessary.

    the legitimate gripes are replacements for Swisher and Martin (who mst people wanted gone – Martin, that is; I think it was more divided on Swish).

  49. blake March 29th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    “blake, as a professional Yeti Hunter I am surprised the word ‘afraid’ is even in your vocabulary.”

    fear is a useful tool! Squatches normally don’t harm people unless you steal their beef jerky

  50. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Fireflies!!!

  51. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Shame-

    Bunting? Do the Yankees even practice that? How many times did our new leadoff hitter lay down a successful bunt this spring?

  52. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    austinmac, that is to say it is my opinion, the legitimate gripes are about catcher and outfield. I don’t mean to be the arbiter of what is and is not a legitimate gripe for anyone else.

  53. astrocityfan March 29th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Shame,
    If we could save time in a bottle, i wonder what cashman would do? (in my best jim croce voice) The answer is probably a few more bad trades :) .

  54. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Shame-

    Bunting? Do the Yankees even practice that? How many times did our new leadoff hitter lay down a successful bunt this spring?

    ——————

    I know it’s wishful thinking but they need to manufacture runs, right? The shift is a death trap. All they need to do is put that bit of doubt in the minds of the D and the opposing coach that they aren’t afraid to do it.

    They really should practice it. I hated the attitude they expressed about it last year. If Derek Jeter, one of the most consistent hitters on the team last year, can lay one down, so should everyone else. I know they’re not all great at it, but hence the point of practicing.

  55. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Fireflies!!!

    —————–

    WORD!!! Oh I used to do this all the time when I was little… those poor fireflies!

  56. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    Blake-

    What players on the 40 man will likely be offered up for trade if Cashman is still looking for either a full time 1st baseman or a third baseman if Youkilis is moved to first?

    The Yankees will have a numbers crunch with the 40 man roster unless they either cut or trade some of them.

    It would have to be for a player with only a year contract? :)

  57. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Doreen-

    Absolutely. Who said otherwise ? I sure didn’t.

    ;)

  58. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Why is everyone picking the Rays to go to the WS….? I still don’t get it.

  59. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 9:57 am

    The Rays are like Coldplay… everyone thinks they get street cred for name dropping them.

  60. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Shame it was one of the pure joys of summer when I was little!

  61. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    I do wonder what they will do with the roster. With the needs for youth in the coming years, they cannot let prospects go and keep people like Eppley, in my opinion. My opinion pretty well insures they will do the opposite it seems.

    I saw that Olt is sent to AAA. He did not have a great spring.

  62. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    I saw that Olt is sent to AAA. He did not have a great spring.

    ————–

    Buy low!!

    Doreen – Mine too. I remember when we would let them all out.. that was the best part.

  63. austinmac March 29th, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Pierzynski would have been a good pick up for offense. He even did one year. He has played on good teams. I completely discount the attitude suggestion with him. The competition doesn’t like him, but I never heard his teammates did not. It was a money issue. He sure would look better at the plate than Stewie.

  64. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    I also remember taking some swings at them with wiffle ball bats :oops:

  65. Doreen March 29th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    I seem to remember some of us pulling off the wings or the lightbulb part.

  66. Yankee Trader March 29th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Yankees 40 man roster:

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy

    Are some of these players going to be cut or offered in trade?
    Demel, Aardsma, Warren, Eppley, Turley, Joseph, Almonte? Others?

  67. Bad Scooter March 29th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I love the angst for not signing Martin. Last summer nobody wanted him reupped and then he hits a few homers the last few months of the season and now we can’t survive without him? Yes, he’s very good behind the plate and has some pop, but him being here or not isn’t going to make or break our season.

    I understand Cervelli and Stewart can’t hit much, but both are pretty good behind the plate and will get some hits for us when needed.

    And we don’t need all of Wells, Youkillis, Hafner, Overbay, Boesch, Francisco to hit. We just need a couple of them to surprise us and hit until Grandy and maybe Tex come back and maybe carry that over for the rest of the season. Not entirely crazy.

  68. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Mac-

    Agree on AJ P.

    ;)

  69. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Mac-

    Jaso was another potential slip-up.

    ;)

  70. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    I still think they should target Headley at the deadline. Hopefully he doesn’t kill the ball like he did last year but then watch people not want him if he isn’t an all star. He’s a solid player. They need to get him but hopefully his price tag will come down some. I would definitely trade a Jose Ramirez and Slade Heathcott package for him.

    If you put Headley on this team it changes the whole complexion of the lineup for 4-5 years.

  71. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    for our bad management people-would the yanks have let johan blow out his arm for a no-hitter?

    that’s a no-no…

  72. Chip March 29th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Interesting trade suggestion from Joel Sherman:

    Yankees get: Andre Ethier
    Dodgers get: Mason Williams Jose Ramirez

    Not sure I would do it, but I could understand it if it happened.

  73. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Mac-

    Jaso was another potential slip-up.

    ;)

    —————–

    I still can’t believe the A’s got him for basically nothing!!!! We absolutely could have made a deal for Jaso. And I was one of the people that doubted you, MTU, thinking there was no way the M’s would move him. SMH.

  74. Vineyard Yankee March 29th, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Bad Scooter March 29th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    That you Fred ? How is it going ? :)

  75. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Our top prospect and a potential top order starter for a leaving-his-prime outfielder who makes 17 million per season? Where do I sign, Chip?

  76. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Yankees get: Andre Ethier
    Dodgers get: Mason Williams Jose Ramirez

    Not sure I would do it, but I could understand it if it happened.
    =================
    I wouldn’t do Ethier for Jo Ram straight up.

  77. jacksquat March 29th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Chip March 29th, 2013 at 10:25 am
    Interesting trade suggestion from Joel Sherman:

    Yankees get: Andre Ethier
    Dodgers get: Mason Williams Jose Ramirez

    Not sure I would do it, but I could understand it if it happened.

    So, this morning “we” were railing against an imaginary trade idea of Joel Sherman?

    At least it wasn’t 200 or 300 posts about the good prospects that weren’t traded for Wells…

  78. blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    “What players on the 40 man will likely be offered up for trade if Cashman is still looking for either a full time 1st baseman or a third baseman if Youkilis is moved to first?”

    I just have no idea….as Chip said yesterday I bet they’d love to get Carlos Pena as he’s maybe a slight upgrade over Overbay (maybe not)……I’d love to buy low on Olt if Texas was reasonable…..It would be nice if they could take a couple of excess guys on the 40 man and turn them into a useful player…..it’d kill 2 birds with one stone.

  79. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    If you put Headley on this team it changes the whole complexion of the lineup for 4-5 years.

    —————-

    Headley is only controlled for another year. I dunno that they’d commit the money to resign him, but the upside is he’d cost less. Anyway, he’s injured now and that’s probably a major factor. I don’t see them pursuing him.

  80. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Shame-

    Don’t feel bad. Rosy did too. And she was on scene, so to speak.

    I got lucky with that one.

    She had more confidence in Jerk Z than I did. It seemed that the Mariners would need a bigger bat than Jaso’s longterm. They have brought in some thunder from the outside.

    :)

  81. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    For Headley’s injury to be a major factor it would have to be a career threatening injury.

  82. blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “Not sure I would do it, but I could understand it if it happened”

    that would be the worst trade ever given the circumstances……if you’re going to trade two good prospects for Ethier then why didn’t you sign Nick Swisher who is better and cheaper? If they do something like that then they have no direction whatsoever IMO…..Ethier is a platoon bat who is expensive and plays horrible defense……not what they need right now.,

  83. blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    JIM BOWDEN ?@JimBowdenESPNxm 3m
    Paul Goldschmidt and Diamondacks have agreed on contract extension

  84. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    At least it wasn’t 200 or 300 posts about the good prospects that weren’t traded for Wells…
    ==================================
    some people just love to complain, pay them no mind…

  85. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Not sure I would do it, but I could understand it if it happened.

    ———————-

    I don’t think so. Ethier has a high AAV through 2017 or 18 I think. A contract like that for a player in his 30′s is probably not a great idea for this club. They’d let it hamstring them.

  86. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    does anyone know what boesch’s role will be?

  87. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    The key place to upgrade would be third base (3B). The 2014 OF is mostly set with Gardner, Ichiro and Wells contracted and backed by Heathcott, Austin, Flores and Williams. Why waste resources on an OF when you have a crop of them who will be within arms reach of the majors next year?

    Tex will be back. So why waste resources on a really good 1B?

    That leaves 3B.

  88. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    No effin’ way I trade those two prospects for Ethier.

    As Blake said earlier “heaven forbid”.

    If you are going to move top prospects move ‘em for someone young with proven talent and even higher upside.

    Upton would be an example. That would take more than those 2.

  89. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “Not sure I would do it, but I could understand it if it happened”

    that would be the worst trade ever given the circumstances……if you’re going to trade two good prospects for Ethier then why didn’t you sign Nick Swisher who is better and cheaper? If they do something like that then they have no direction whatsoever IMO…..Ethier is a platoon bat who is expensive and plays horrible defense……not what they need right now.,

    —————

    Yeah this too lol.

    MTU – Crazy Jack is a nightmare. Which is why we should have exploited his stupidity.

  90. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Crazy Jack is a nightmare. Which is why we should have exploited his stupidity.
    =========================
    i thought he exploited us.

  91. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    And 3B should really be their main concern long term because of Arod’s condition. There’s been talk lately about the Yankees waiting until the last minute with personnel transactions. Some say the front office lacks foresight. How/if they address 3B will reveal much about their vision or lack thereof. You just can’t depend on Arod at third base long term with his frequent visits to the DL for extended periods of time. The man is almost 40!!!

  92. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Crazy Jack is a nightmare. Which is why we should have exploited his stupidity.
    =========================
    i thought he exploited us.

    ——————-

    What does one have to do with the other? He made a deal for Jaso that netted him one year of Morse. We could have matched Morse.

  93. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    And 3B should really be their main concern long term because of Arod’s condition.
    ======================
    Musty will be back.

  94. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    all the rhetoric here is about jack z outsmarting us in the montero deal.
    if he traded jaso, he had a reason(s).
    buyer beware.

  95. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Shame-

    I agree with the lilliputian view of Jerk Z.

    The M’s were a textbook, poster-child example of how to build a lopsided Team.

    Good pitching anchored by a world-beating Ace and a zero for an O.

    Jerk Z kept them waiting for the train that was never coming.

    Finally wised up and brought in some outside thunder after relieving us of one of our best bats.

  96. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    i guess nobody knows what boesch’s role will be…
    good baseball talk tho.

  97. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    And 3B should really be their main concern long term because of Arod’s condition.

    ————–

    I agree… but Headley isn’t a long term option, he’s a stop gap for 2014 and then an FA. And he isn’t exactly cheap. I’m not saying it’s a deal breaker but they could possibly make a better deal for a cheaper and longer term option.

  98. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Mick I’m talking about if you’re going to address a position long term, make efficient use of resources and add a guy who you can plug into the middle of the lineup to protect Cano. 3B is the glaring target in my book.

    The OF seems set and reinforced. 1B has Tex. That leaves you 3B and if you factor in Arod’s age and deteriorating body, it’s an obvious target to me for a major acquisition.

  99. blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    If (and I hope they arent’) the Yankees are 6+ games out of 1st place in July and they just don’t look like a team that can win a championship…..then they should target Anthony Rendon and use Cano to get him if possible…..either that or a SS. Then they can try to sign Cano back in the winter anyway…..you can have a conversation with him before the trade saying look we are going to move you but it’s not because we don’t want you….it’s so that perhaps we can build a better team around you moving forward……you go and play for a title this year then if you’re willing we will bring you home this winter and have a stronger future together……..

  100. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Headley’s contract works for 2014 and that’s all that matters. Once they reset, it’s OK to pay more to retain him. I can’t think of a better long-term option at 3B. I can think of better hitters but they would be outfielders and that ignores 3B which is the biggest question mark moving forward. And I like the organization’s OF depth. Plus when we start talking about outfielders we lose focus on the problem at 3B and it’s a distraction.

  101. MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Mick-

    Not so sure about Ronnier making it back anytime soon. You’re more optimistic than me on that one.

    Nix and other OF fill-ins cover his spots.

    They just don’t seem to trust him in some way.

    Girardi’s comment the other day was telling. Where he said that even before Overbay, etc. Musty only had a small chance of making the squad.

    A small chance ? The sucker moved heaven and earth in ST. What more could have done.

  102. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Headley led the NL in RBI’s last year…as a member of the Padres! He’s the guy you need 1-2 with Cano. The long-term middle of the order is a big issue.

  103. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    How do we know Headley wants to play in NY and we aren’t exactly throwing our money around anymore so we are more careful at this point in time but that will change.

    Getting players who want to play here under the scrutiny seems to a major factor these days.
    Unfortunately these scrap heap pickups are just that and short term but if we can squeeze something out of them we take it, till the real deal comes along. Unfortunately that class has been weak but Hal will eventually find what he wants and get him.

    Keep the faith…

  104. blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    or deal Cano to Seattle for Franklin and one of their pitchers……there are several scenarios…..trading Cano doesn’t mean they can’t still sign him..

  105. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    I meant 3-4 with Cano.

  106. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Headley has been trapped in a wasteland his whole career. It’s a beautiful city but how much more losing can he take? The Yankees tradition is the opposite of that experience. Get him here for a year and a half and get him acclimated and show him the money after resetting the budget.

  107. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    mtu

    we shall see about musty. realistically he didn’t have to be here opening day.
    he could replace boesch who serves what purpose.
    for same reasons i would leave nuno in aaa as a starter.
    long season…

  108. blake March 29th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 2m
    Source: Goldschmidt, #Diamondbacks agree to five-year, $32M extension plus club option. @JimBowdenESPNxm first reported agreement.

  109. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 10:54 am

    FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Headley’s contract works for 2014 and that’s all that matters.

    —————

    I’m not sure about that… he’s arb eligible that year and should make at or above $10 million. I don’t think you would be able to retain any of Hughes, Andy or Kuroda in that scenario.

    I like Headley and have pushed for a trade for him in the past. I wouldn’t be upset if they did it (depending on what they had to give up, of course). But I don’t see them trying and I dunno if they could make the math work. Where are we now with the 2014 payroll? $120 million-ish?

  110. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    I think you could still keep Andy.

  111. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    boesch is strictly a pinchhitter for francisco.
    his only chance is a start against a tough righty for wells.
    with rivera gone, i thought for sure musty would get some starts at 3rd when they sit overbay.
    but what do i know…

    …must be the defense.

  112. mick March 29th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    How do you know they haven’t pushed for Headley?
    How do we even know he wants to play here?
    Do you want to start selling off the farm because that’s all we have to offer.

  113. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    If I was forced to pick I’d probably try to keep Kuroda over Andy.

  114. DONNYBROOK March 29th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    WOW, that Sherman piece today was a “pucker up” job if there ever was one. Somebody put out a BOLO for a Real journalist will ya. Sherman can sight all the Yankee scrap heap pick-ups he wants and he will continue to miss the Real acquisition that turned things around. Paul O’Neil putting on the pinstripes, and instilling his striving for Excellence every inning of every game, and Never settling for less, was THE move.

  115. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    All legitimate questions. I bet we have made overtures for Headley. As for the farm, it has to be used for 3B is all I’m saying. Trading prospects for anything else is a waste of resources. We have tex at 1b and a crop of outfielders who will all be close in 2014 and cheap.

    That leaves 3B

  116. mick March 29th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    at this point boesch couldn’t even pinch hit for nix with no BUIF around.

    must have been the back to back with francisco the other night that sealed the deal.

  117. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Including Cano, you have CC, Alex, Tex, Jeter, Ichiro, and Wells on the books for 2014. You also have guys like Gardner and Robertson getting increases. I think that take you to $115-120 already committed in 2014. Leaves around $60 million to net at least one rotation spot (assuming your comfortable with Pineda, Phelps and Nova as your bottom 3 starters), an OFer, a 3B, …a C maybe?

    It’s doable… but it relies a lot on the market. Anyone have any idea what Headley might command in arbitration?

  118. mick March 29th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    That leaves 3B
    ===========
    they still believe in arod.

  119. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    God I hope not.

    Then I would have to agree with posters suggesting the Yankees front office lacks foresight.

  120. jmills March 29th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    You guys are in trouble now, Geddy Lee is throwing the first pitch up here. Who do you have?

  121. FiretheUMPIRE March 29th, 2013 at 11:06 am

    You should’ve gone with Celine Dion.

  122. mick March 29th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    The year is not lost.
    I hear we might be making some deals for guys named Granderson, Jeter, Teixiera and Rodriguez before years end.
    Can’t blame the FO for that…

  123. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Published on Deadspin today: http://deadspin.com/2013-payro.....socialflow

    New York Yankees $228,995,945
    Los Angeles Dodgers $216,302,909
    Philadelphia $159,578,214
    Boston $158,967,286
    Detroit $149,046,844
    San Francisco $142,180,333
    Los Angeles Angels $142,165,250
    Texas $127,197,575
    Chicago White Sox $124,065,277
    Toronto $118,244,039
    St. Louis $116,702,085
    Washington $112,431,770
    Cincinnati $110,565,728
    Chicago Cubs $104,150,726
    Baltimore $91,793,333
    Milwaukee $91,003,366
    Arizona $90,158,500
    Atlanta $89,288,193
    New York Mets $88,877,033
    Seattle $84,295,952
    Cleveland $82,517,300
    Kansas City $80,491,725
    Minnesota $75,562,500
    Colorado $75,449,071
    San Diego $71,689,900
    Oakland $68,577,000
    Pittsburgh $66,289,524
    Tampa Bay $57,030,272
    Miami $39,621,900
    Houston $24,328,538

    Takeaways: A-Rod will make more than the Astros. The Dodgers will likely pass the Yankees for the top spot next year. Miami cut its payroll from last season by more than 60 percent. The Blue Jays will field $37 million worth of Marlins. Arizona’s highest-paid player is a setup guy. Among the NL favorites, the Braves, Nationals, and Reds all show the importance of home-grown pitching—while the Giants have reached the phase where they’ve had to pay top-dollar to keep their aces.

  124. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    I really wish MLB teams had to open their books because I would LOVE to know what the Astros end up making this season.

  125. DONNYBROOK March 29th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Let’s be clear on 1 thing. When you say “Yankee FO”, your talkin’ Hal and Levine.These are the same guys that inspired that joke about screwing inna light bulb.

  126. blake March 29th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    228 million dollars just don’t buy what it used to…….this has to be the least efficient use of resources in professional sports history.

  127. jacksquat March 29th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    The Yankees have more money on the DL than the total payroll of half those teams.

  128. jmills March 29th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Halogen light bulbs are a pain to change

  129. jacksquat March 29th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    MTU March 29th, 2013 at 10:49 am
    Mick-

    Not so sure about Ronnier making it back anytime soon. You’re more optimistic than me on that one.

    Nix and other OF fill-ins cover his spots.

    They just don’t seem to trust him in some way.

    Girardi’s comment the other day was telling. Where he said that even before Overbay, etc. Musty only had a small chance of making the squad.

    A small chance ? The sucker moved heaven and earth in ST. What more could have done.

    I don’t like it either, but the Yankees have been like this for decades. Even Jeter got his foot in because of an injury, and obviously he was much more of a prospect than Mustelier. Everyone should be used to it.

  130. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    I don’t like it either, but the Yankees have been like this for decades. Even Jeter got his foot in because of an injury, and obviously he was much more of a prospect than Mustelier. Everyone should be used to it.

    —————-

    Welp, if there’s any time to break out of this habit, it’s now. Next year we’re going to need some in house options. I’d rather some of those guys have big league experience at that point.

  131. Shame Spencer March 29th, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Which is the part about Musty that people are sometimes forgetting… I hope he gets a chance not just because I wanna see at least one of our kids in there but because we might need him to come up for us next year.

  132. jmills March 29th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Have a great day guys, I just put my first cactus out; its time to cut the wild grasses back.


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