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Collins: Hughes scratched from tomorrow’s AAA start

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 05, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

According to Donnie Collins in Scranton, Phil Hughes has been scratched from tomorrow’s scheduled Triple-A rehab start.

Unless he’s hurt – which I doubt — it might make sense to have Hughes come to Detroit to start tomorrow’s big league game, shifting David Phelps into the short-handed bullpen.

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84 Responses to “Collins: Hughes scratched from tomorrow’s AAA start”

  1. Tyler April 5th, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    Did Hughes even have a spring start? Welcome back!

  2. austinmac April 5th, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Is this panicky move no. 1? Phelps gets the shaft again, but he may see his share of innings tomorrow.

  3. Pat M. April 5th, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    Panic time in ” Da Bronx “

  4. Tar April 5th, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    I would still start Phelps and keep Phil in reserve.

  5. Pat M. April 5th, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    Hughes for 3-4 and Phelps for 3-4. The old piggy-back starter trick. Tar, I agree with you, dang Hughes hasn’t had a start since last October

  6. shaman1993 April 5th, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    Hughes is starting, according to Cashman…Phelps will be in the depleted pen…

  7. blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Interesting….as long as Kuroda is ok this does seem strange

  8. blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    blake says:
    April 5, 2013 at 6:28 pm
    I think Cano has trade value because he’s one of the best players in baseball and plays a position that significantly upgrades every team he’s put on…..even if it were for half a season I think several teams would be serious bidders and I think the yanks could pry away a really good prospect or maybe more from somebody …..

    That said….there is no way they’ll deal him unless they just tank and there is also a chance he signs an extension soon also

  9. blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Id much rather him be scratched to pitch in Detroit though than because he’s hurt

  10. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    Is anyone being sent dem?

  11. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    Down that is.

  12. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    It’s basically a good move, we need all the help we can get, Warren prolly isn’t ready, and if Phelps gives a good 5 @ 100 pitches you have to pull him…for who?

    Start Hughes and bring in Phelps for 2 to get to Drob and Mo.

    Let’s scratch out a win tmw.

    For some crazy reason I have faith these guys will scratch out 3-4 runs a game, just need the pitchers do their jobs.

  13. blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    When in doubt throw phelps in the pen

  14. Tyler April 5th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:30 pm
    blake says:
    April 5, 2013 at 6:28 pm
    I think Cano has trade value because he’s one of the best players in baseball and plays a position that significantly upgrades every team he’s put on…..even if it were for half a season I think several teams would be serious bidders and I think the yanks could pry away a really good prospect or maybe more from somebody …..

    That said….there is no way they’ll deal him unless they just tank and there is also a chance he signs an extension soon also
    —————————————————————————-

    I agree with all of this… they need to see what they have as a relatively full team first. I just don’t know if 6 more years of Cano on what could be a bad team is the best investment. Dealing for prospects is risky too, definitely don’t want to swing and miss on dealing one of the best players in the game.

  15. austinmac April 5th, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    Mick,

    Three or four runs a game isn’t going to win much except with the 1963 Dodgers staff.

  16. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    I have Sherzer on my fantasy team so I am sure it will work out for thevYankees.

    That said, well, tough turn around for Hughes.

  17. Tyler April 5th, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Barry Zito is really pitching well for San Fran. Saved them last postseason and 7 shutout innings today vs. the Cards. Really redeemed himself.

  18. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Who gets sent down for Hughes?
    DFA Eppley?

  19. jacksquat April 5th, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    I guess if Hughes was going to start in the minors, he can start in the majors. Phelps can caddy for him if they only want him to go 4 or 5 innings.

    They are probably going to do this because if Phelps comes up short tomorrow, who is the long man? Warren probably shouldn’t pitch again yet, and they will probably hold him out until Kuroda’s next start just in case.

    And everyone thought the hitting would be the big problem. So far it has been pitching. Hopefully at least CC and Kuroda get back on track soon.

  20. blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    mick says:
    April 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm
    Who gets sent down for Hughes?
    DFA Eppley?

    Never….Eppley 4ever

  21. blake April 5th, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    This turn of events does give me a reason to watch the game tomorrow

  22. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    We will do better against RH pitching than leftys for sure but what do we do when they bring a lefty in ? We have no bench and Overbay, Hafner are neutralized.

    This is why Boesch is superfulous as Wells is the everyday OFer.

    Nuney get well soon as Overbay will stay at 1st vs leftys as Youk is anchored at 3rd.
    Unless Nix can cover the entire left side…

  23. Bronx Jeers April 5th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Would Phelps have been worse than what Nova’s been doing since last season?

  24. Chip April 5th, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Clearly not the start anyone’s looking for – some initial thoughts to the season:

    1. We were debating a few days ago if Boone Logan could get right-handers out; now I’m not sure he can get anyone out. Obviously its early but the bullpen has not been good.

    2. Glad that Nunez isn’t hurt that badly

    3. Ken Rosenthal has a column up about the Yankees need to get younger and has Cashman in it talking about the talent coming through the system. I’m so tired of this. All Cashman does is talk about his young talent – he refuses to let them play. If this season continues then I really hope he’ll start calling up kids who show they deserve a chance…I’m looking at you David Adams and Austin Romine.

    4. Speaking of young talent – I don’t believe Cervelli is a starting catcher long term, but given that the other guy on the team is Chris Stewart, Cervelli needs to be the everyday catcher on this team. I get sitting him day game after night game (especially with the travel involved) but Stewart is so far below replacement level that he makes Cervelli look like a young stud in the making.

    5. Also, if this season falls off the rails, I really hope Cashman won’t hesitate to pull the trigger on trades to send his FA’s away for young talent. In 2008 when the Yankees were in the midst of a bad season he sent a pu pu platter of young players to Pittsburgh for Marte and Nady in a vain attempt to get into the playoffs. It didn’t work. Now clearly Jeff Karstens, Jose Tabata, Dan McCutchen, Ross Ohlendorf and Steve Jackson haven’t been missed, but it was just a useless deal. I hope that this season we don’t see him make a stupid deal to go pick up someone like Matt Garza and Soriano.

    6. ENOUGH WITH THE NICKNAMES JOE – YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDIOT(Y)!

  25. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Now you see…speaking of negativity…isn’t it better to vent about the actual team at hand rather than the FO?

    Much more fun…

  26. Chip April 5th, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Oh, and batting Cano in the two spot is moronic.

    If you want a lineup that makes sense:

    Gardner
    Ichiro
    Wells
    Cano
    Youk
    Hafner
    Overbay
    Cervelli
    Nunez

  27. jacksquat April 5th, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Patrick April 5th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    In 2012…

    Rapada vs L – .183/.263/.255
    Logan vs L – .230/.293/.372

    I would take that again vs lhb from Logan, it’s not bad.

  28. Chip April 5th, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Jeers makes a good point – at what point does Ivan Nova get shifted to the bullpen and Phelps get the rotation spot?

  29. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    eppley and rapada were key last year…they were our middle relief…we actually have none this year.

  30. jacksquat April 5th, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Chip April 5th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
    Oh, and batting Cano in the two spot is moronic.

    If you want a lineup that makes sense:

    Gardner
    Ichiro
    Wells
    Cano
    Youk
    Hafner
    Overbay
    Cervelli
    Nunez

    I’d switch Wells and Youk. Wells is not as much “protection”, but for one thing sabermetics says protection doesn’t really exist (not sure I fully believe), and they aren’t pitching to Cano with Youk behind him anyway.

    I’d probably switch Nunez and Cervelli also, but that’s not as important.

  31. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    they were ying and yang….now we just have yang.

  32. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    This team loses all respectability without Jeter.
    The day he gets back will give us a tremendous lift.

  33. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Nova isn’t going to the pen.
    Whatever was wrong with him last year is still there.
    If he doesn’t figure it out soon, he will get sent down and this time might not come back as Phelps will snatch his spot and Warren becomes the long man.

  34. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    What Chip said.

  35. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    What Chip said.
    ============
    You think Nova is going to the pen?

  36. BEL April 5th, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    I don’t post here very often, but I read daily, and while I am not sure that I can add to the discourse I just have to ask…where the heck did the pitching go? Andy is the only starter to get out of what… the 5th inning?

    I feel that it really is too soon to panic but with the diminished offense pitching has got to hold.

    And for the record how awesome was it to go Andy -> Mo last night!

  37. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    This is not,about not wantng Phelps to,start. It’s about being short a long man and, like it or not, Phelps is the best guy for that.

    Nova in the pen? Not with the way he’s been laboring to throw strikes and going into long counts.

  38. mick April 5th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    CC-coming off surgery
    Kuroda and Andy-looks like a sure thing
    Hughes-Nova-works in progress

    The hype was placed on the staff which had a stellar bullpen last year, but they are always subject to change…

    It’s all just convenient , lazy press/media hype….

  39. mick April 5th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    The thing about a long man is that he is treated like a starter of sorts.
    He can’t go everyday.
    The question is what do you do when you have 2 bad starts in a row?

  40. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    “You think Nova is going to the pen?”

    I hope not.

    But I was talking about his 1-6.

  41. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    I don’t count Kuroda as being ineffective. He got hurt on a comebacker.

    CC, sigh, always gets off to a slow start. Andy was dandy as expected. I am not surprised nova wasn’t sharp since he wasn’t sharp in his last top ST starts

    Phelps is really good, but he does seem to start to stutter round about the 5th inning.

    Problem is we don’t know what Hughes is bringing to the table, but I do feel comfortable with Pejelps piggy-backing is start.

    Don’t know what Stewarts problem is lately but he has not inspired confidence. His throwing has been poor.

  42. mick April 5th, 2013 at 7:06 pm

    If possible, Stewart has been overrated.
    And treating him as a 40% starter is not fair to Cervelli but that will change.
    Right now if Cervelli catches CC-Andy and the 5th starter or every other day that will have to change to add Kuroda. He might as well catch the guys who he will catch in the post -season :)

  43. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    “Don’t know what Stewarts problem is lately but he has not inspired confidence.”

    He’s not good. He’s horrendous offensively and average at best defensively.

  44. mick April 5th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    I don’t foresee Stewie being on this team by year end.
    Tho GIrardi will go to the wall for him.

  45. mick April 5th, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Love what K-Mart has brought to the Knicks.
    Without an enforcer you can’t win.

  46. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Also, just thinking that April is very often a horrible month for the Yankees. There often seems to be some unsettling stuff going in. With pitching mostly as I recall.

  47. mick April 5th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    This is not,about not wantng Phelps to,start. It’s about being short a long man and, like it or not, Phelps is the best guy for that.
    ====================
    The problem is that with Phelps and Warren you have 2 long men.
    Maybe not a problem but it could shorten the middle relief.

  48. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    Well, who was sent down so that Hughes could come up? It had to b Warren, since he would not be available.

  49. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Hamilton and Pujols off to slow starts

  50. Pat M. April 5th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Yanks should have sold off some current assets in exchange for some futures. I watched the video of a 1 iron that Cespedes hit yesterday that took out the first 3 rows in left field. I swear the ball had a comet tracer tail on it. Can’t continue to stumble out of the gate. I really believe that the season will be determined by the first 35 games or so

  51. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Giancarlo Stanton slow start As well.

    Hi Pat m.

    Maybe the lesson here is you can’t take success for granted, even if it had lasted for some 20 years. Tempting fate I think it’s called.

    Still not willing to call it a season in week one, though.

  52. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Upton and Morse off to great starts….so is TULO!

  53. dayglo April 5th, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Two years ago everyone was running Cervelli out of town. Now you all are acting like he’s the difference between winning and losing. LOL

  54. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    @WheresKernan: In many ways the Tigers have become what the Yankees used to be

  55. j9d April 5th, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    We wanted the replacements to hold the fort down by keeping us at .500. Only a game off that in this first week.

  56. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Nope. That is not what is going on here. Of the two catchers we are presented with, many think Cervelli should get the lions’ share of games. He is a good situational hitter (not great, but good) and he is at this point the more sure defensive catcher.

  57. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    j9d says:
    April 5, 2013 at 7:33 pm
    We wanted the replacements to hold the fort down by keeping us at .500. Only a game off that in this first week.

    1-3 and getting ready to face Scherzer and Verlander isn’t what what had in mind

  58. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Blake talk to me in 15 years.

  59. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    Cervelli has improved defensively and he’s the best they have….so he should play …. Pretty simple

  60. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    They will beat Sherzer. ;)

  61. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Doreen says:
    April 5, 2013 at 7:36 pm
    Blake talk to me in 15 years.

    They are like the Old Yankees minus the titles :)

  62. mick April 5th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Warren isn’t getting sent down .
    He will be ready in another day or so, maybe for Kuroda on Monday. He is a viable part of team now.

  63. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    I like their chances against Verlander better than Max…..Scherzer always owns the Yanks

  64. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Washington is losing. Dan haren gave up 2runs so far. He is on my fantasy team.

  65. jmills April 5th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Doreen, I have the feeling we’re all in for the long haul,…..like it or not :)

    BTW, after you see Toronto’s Allan Gardens ( youtube if you like ), pick a day for Scarborough’s bloughs. Turn down Chine Dr. off Kennedy Rd. ( I was born there ) – no commercial crap. Stand atop Lake Ontario, then go down to meet some great stones – best of friends. Due to disruption, my family was displced early on and I have no memory of the place, so I am presently creating my own. ( My father built a house there, and I like to stand in front of it )

    Oh, forgot to mention, here’s to Farrell getting hammered.

  66. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    Blake I say they will beat Sherzer not because of any metric or history of theirs. Sherzer is my pitcher, he will fail because my matchup is close this week.

  67. Pat M. April 5th, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Doreen….Winning and chasing Championships while rebuilding or retooling is the rare feat in sports. 49er’s did it in the 80′s and early 90′s, The Lakers, and The Yanks have been able to remain a contender however what goes up most certainly has to come down. The real test will be how fast they become airborne again ???? Of course Hoops is not a fair comparision but it is rather remarkable how good The LA Lakers have been for so long.

  68. j9d April 5th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Blake I think we started 0-3 last season but I may be wrong. I agree the start of this season does not have the same feeling as last. Feels like we are not in games now. But let’s push for .500 until the regs come back. The bigger issue for me is that the regs might not do much better than the replacements. That’s a two year issue that will be painful.

  69. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Blake

    No team is like the Yankees until they can do what he Yankees have done for ad long as theyve done it sine late 90s.

  70. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    I gotcha Doreen….same stuff happens with my teams though Dandy Andy did nice for me last night ;)

  71. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    “Blake I think we started 0-3 last season but I may be wrong”

    Yup…totally different feel though ….this team doesn’t feel very good right now

  72. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Doreen says:
    April 5, 2013 at 7:42 pm
    Blake

    No team is like the Yankees until they can do what he Yankees have done for ad long as theyve done it sine late 90s.

    I agree….that gets thrown around way too much….

  73. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    I wish the Yanks had my fantasy outfield (. Trout, Mcutchen, J Upton)

  74. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Speaking of…. j ups just hit a line drive that didnt get 20 feet off the ground over the left center wall……makes me sad

  75. Chip April 5th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    “Don’t know what Stewarts problem is lately but he has not inspired confidence.”

    He’s not good. He’s horrendous offensively and average at best defensively.
    ————–

    Chris Stewart will be a very good minor league coach some day – maybe even a good manager – but he is not a major league baseball player.

  76. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Pat M I agree 100% with that and I’ve said something similar here somewhere along the line.

    And that is the question, how long will it take? I’ll take deal with this year on a day to day basis. they can’t go 3 and 12 to start the season. Too tough a division

    I sense a weariness over the injuries. They need some good news.

  77. blake April 5th, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Then Freeman nunbed one down the 3B line to beat the shift ….lol

  78. Tar April 5th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    I am a big Hughes fan, I hate him getting the start tmw. Too much risk, not enough reward.

    When was the last time he started a game? You cant just throw him against a tough line- up like that witout a chance to work out the kinks. This is a risky move and just not worth it 4 games into the season.

    Somebody mentioned panic ( great Bowie song by the way) it reeks of panic. It also sends an awful message to Phelps.

    The only reason that I can come up with is if they take him off the DL they can’t send him back down so he’s going to need the work. But if that’s the case they should just call somebody else up.

    Don’t like it all. Sorry for typos I’m on my phone.

  79. jmills April 5th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    blake, forget about Upton, stupid mirage, mon ami.

  80. jmills April 5th, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    Tar, Bowie is one smart individual.

  81. luis April 5th, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Sorry guys…. But Is this the management that is going to see us through a rebuilding process?… One that at the first inconvenience calls a rehabbing pitcher that hasn’t thrown a single meaningful inning since October?… Worse, that haven’t been able to throw a single inning in ST?… Not only this, but also screws up with another pitcher that will be important in the next few years?

    I am not jumping ship… This is the Titanic sinking

  82. jmills April 5th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Hey, luis, nice to breathe baseball with you as always, sorry things aren’t going so swell.

  83. Tar April 5th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    Hey jmills. :D

    Post a panic in Detroit YouTube link please. On my phone so I can’t do it and it seems fitting.

  84. Jerkface April 5th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    Don’t like phelps going to the pen. After nova looked pretty poor I don’t know why you’d hurt the rotation by taking phelps out of it. The pen will fall into line once the starters come around. The pen is less important in the long run. Plus come on, give phelps his shot.

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