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Nova gets the start and needs to start turning it around

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Apr 05, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ivan Nova’s last start in Detroit was symbolic of his dreadful second half for the Yankees in 2012. The Tigers beat him Aug. 6, homering twice and tagging him for seven runs and 11 hits in 5 1/3 innings.

His second-half numbers came in at 2-5 with a 7.05 ERA across 11 starts after going 10-3 with a 3.92 ERA across 17 starts.

This year, the 26-year-old righty’s first three spring outings came with a total of one run allowed. The last three came with at least four runs allowed each time. Nova’s last one, against Class A hitters March 27, came with seven runs allowed in five innings. He was trying to make mechanical adjustments, though.

Nova will make his first regular-season start Friday in Detroit. There’s the need for him to start dispelling some doubts, although Joe Girardi gave a generally positive review of his exhibition work.

“Pretty good spring,” Girardi said. “I think he had better command of his fastball. For him, it’s consistency. If he’s consistent and he’s consistently down and on the outer thirds, he’s going to be pretty good.”

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190 Responses to “Nova gets the start and needs to start turning it around”

  1. MG April 5th, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Yankee Trader April 5th, 2013 at 8:06 am
    MG-

    The other great Yankee lefty that I enjoyed watching, was Ron Guidry
    ————————–
    Guidry was a great competitor and could be overpowering, particularly in his first few years in the rotation.

    He had an excellent career and was on the mound for some great Yankees moments (the 18 K’s, the playoff game in Boston, and more) but was more of a power arm than either Whitey or Andy and less the surgeon finding the holes in the batter’s swings and putting pitches there consistently.

    I’m not belittling Gator, just putting Andy on the same level as my all time favorite pitcher, the Chairman of the Board, Whitey Ford.

  2. Yankee Trader April 5th, 2013 at 8:21 am

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  3. MTU April 5th, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Good morning.

    Just a quick drive by to say hi.

    Mostly taking a blogcation for the next couple of weeks.

    Nice to see AP and his Mo-ness doing their thing again.

    Amazing really.

    Nunez and Cervelli seem to be providing some nice spark.

    And it looks like Mr. Overbay can definitely play 1st.

    Too bad we did not give Musty his chance. I think he would have added to the fun.

    :)

  4. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    YT, I was looking at Morse’s video. He looks like he can hit a fastball and can drive it to all field with power. They better start jamming him hard inside and junking it away. That swing and his ability to go to RF with pop would have been nice to see in YS. But, let’s see if pitchers can make adjustments to him.

  5. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 8:25 am

    GM, MTU

  6. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    I’ve come to hate playing the Tigers…..they just aren’t a great matchup for the Yanks because of their rotation and because they seem to have developed no way to deal with Miggy at all……it is kinda fun seeing Miggy hit that tree house thing in CF though.

    Maybe they’ll surprise us and take 2 of 3 here….we’ll see.

    Nova does need a good start tonight to get him on track and get his confidence going.

  7. MTU April 5th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    greetings Rich.

  8. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    “YT, I was looking at Morse’s video. He looks like he can hit a fastball and can drive it to all field with power. ”

    he can….his opo power would have played very well at the stadium…..and given how things worked out he could have been the every day 1B right now until Tex came back……I really wish they had pursued him further if they couldn’t have gotten UPton……

  9. Yankee Trader April 5th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    MTU-

    If you are taking a blogcation, still try to send us those magnificent photos.

  10. MTU April 5th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    last night’s game seem to be the way the Yankees are going to have to win for a while.

    Great Pitching and just enough O.

    Glad Mr. K is OK.

  11. joecembrale April 5th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    I was in the right field bleechers fot the 18K Angels game and it’s a night I’ll never forget. The thing to remember about the Boston playoff game was the Guidry went on two days rest and pitched into the seventh with the lead.
    IP H R ER BB SO
    Guidry W (25-3) 6.1 6 2 2 1 5

  12. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    There is no way I would let Cabrera beat the Yankees. Fielder can have the chance, but not Miggy C. The Yankees don’t seem to subscribe to that thinking.

  13. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    what up MTU, you hiking the mtns of Utah today?

  14. Yankee Trader April 5th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    Fister, Scherzer, Verlander vs Nova, Phelps, CC.

    Didn’t realize todays game is at 1:00. Hopefully the team got some rest.

  15. MTU April 5th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    YT-

    You’ve got mail.

    :)

  16. joecembrale April 5th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Tigers seem to have Verlander and and three guys who only pitch great against the Yanks (Sherzer, Fister and to a lesser extent Sanchez). Can’t let Miggy beat us, Nova cannot put guys on in front of him.

  17. MTU April 5th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Blake-

    I’m on photo assignment at a secret location for the next two weeks.

    Hope you and yours are well.

    :)

  18. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Rich, I would shift against Miggy and pitch him down inside almost exclusively or hit him in the butt. other than that, I will let the guys behind him beat us if game situation allow it.

  19. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    “I’m on photo assignment at a secret location for the next two weeks.”

    lol….everyone is well….hope yall are.

  20. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 7m
    How the Yankees can get younger. Column: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....egy-040413

  21. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 8:41 am

    MTU, say hi to Hugh Hefner for us, make sure you capture all the views!

    blake, I think it would very interesting to see what Pronk or Wells could be against a big fastball in Scherzer and Verlander. I already give up on Overbay, Where is Daric Barton, come on down…

  22. Benny Blanco April 5th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Nova needs to give the Yankees at least 6 innings of 3 run ball. He also needs to limit the amount of Xtra base hits this year.

  23. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    *could do.

  24. MTU April 5th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Have a good day everyone.

    Later.

  25. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:44 am

    Trenton destroyed the opposition last night…..good start to a very big season down on the farm. They need guys to stay healthy and take steps forward.

  26. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    “blake, I think it would very interesting to see what Pronk or Wells could be against a big fastball in Scherzer and Verlander. I already give up on Overbay, Where is Daric Barton, come on down…”

    nobody really hits verlander much and Scherzer might even have better stuff when he’s throwing strikes…..those guys are tough….probably the 2nd best rotation in baseball.

  27. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 8:45 am

    From blake’s link:

    “We’ve got some high-end stuff,” Cashman said. “But it’s younger. The last time I was saying we had high-end stuff coming, it was Austin Jackson, Montero, (Chien-Ming) Wang, (Robinson) Cano. Those guys were all high-end.”
    _

    Which proves that the best trades are often the ones you don’t make.

  28. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    blake, I am curious as to how much bat speed both have left…

  29. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 8:49 am

    Cash

    The problem is that Nova has a tendency to lack command. If you miss inside..

  30. blake April 5th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    “blake, I am curious as to how much bat speed both have left…”

    hopefully enough to guess right and hit something

  31. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Yeah, even young hitters who haven’t lost bat speed have to cheat against guys with high-end velo.

  32. PacoDooley April 5th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Cervelli had a nice game, but he almost gave up a run single handedly with his lazy retrieval of the passed ball. He got lucky that he recovered in time to get Victorino, but I am annoyed to see several places call it a nice play – it was a lazy and lucky play if you watch the whole thing.

    That said, Russell Martin once again had a hitless game and continues to look horrible at the plate, following his disaster of a spring…

  33. comnsnse April 5th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Nova is the current version of Phil Hughes and Chamberlain, inconsistent and as yet unreliable.

    The 4-5 spots are questionable and Phelps and Warren could be better choices.

    There seems to be little to choose from with each of these starters in terms of stuff making it difficult to give them an opportunity to succeed.

    Hard to imagine a starting staff with 4-5 of this group as the future especially with no lefty.

  34. PacoDooley April 5th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 8:49 am
    blake, I am curious as to how much bat speed both have left…
    —————————–

    Wells seems to still have impressive bat speed – just looks a little lost at the plate at times. I think Pronk is more the problem – looks a tad slow to me.

  35. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 5th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    “I took a break from this forum because I couldn’t stand reading the same ridiculous interference/nonsense in here while those of us who actually discuss baseball, the Yankees, their history, etc. are shouted down by passive agressives.

    There’s an episode of the West Wing…”
    __________________________________________________________________________

    The “West Wing” is the problem. Stop watching lilly livered whitey liberal trash. Thank you.

  36. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 5th, 2013 at 9:01 am

    If Mo has a great year, he will sign a one year contract. There is no way you go out on the very top, just ask Andy, Mohammed Ali, Woody Allen, Barrack OBlamer et. al……

  37. PacoDooley April 5th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Some odd comments from Melkmanisinhotlanta this morning – someone has an agenda and is in a foul mood – generally like to see this blog and its discussions non-political and less vitriolic.

  38. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 9:06 am

    To have good command consistently would spell success in MLB to me as a pitcher. Major League are full of guys with good stuff and inconsistent command. It’s skill one can hone on via repetition. It’s interesting I never hear of ( does not mean it was not preach) Yankee pitching coaches telling guys to throw little slower and try to paint all the quadrants with their fb. but it’s something more suitable to work on in the minor league.

  39. Tackelberry April 5th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Yanks seem to have more trouble with Scherzer than Verlander. They haven’t exactly knocked Fister around either. This is gonna be a very tough series to win. Need excellent pitching and don’t let Miggy beat them

  40. blake April 5th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    Most guys that are signed to play pro ball have good enough fastballs to make it or they wouldn’t be signed in the first place…..it’s the ones that can throw it where they want to and keep hitters off balance that make it and generally that comes down to who can repeat a pitching delivery the best……repeating a delivery requires practice and athletic ability…..and the guys that can do that usually get hurt less and can command the ball better.

  41. Hassey April 5th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    The only way to avoid Miggy beating you is to walk him 15 times in a row. But when you do that, in this year’s Detroit lineup, you are still in big trouble anywhere you look. Victor Victoria? Killer. Peralta? Yankee Killer? Avila? Wish we had him.

  42. Tackelberry April 5th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Last night at Trenton, Branden Pinder was hitting 95 and Danny Burawa, healthy again touched 97. Both had great outings. Also, Preston Claiborne was pretty impressive in ST had a great outing for Scranton. Looks like Joba is defintely gone after this season. Yanks have a number of candidates for the MLB pen next year. ALmost forgot Montgomery who was pretty filthy too last night.

  43. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 9:11 am

    Passed along without comment.

    Axisa

    C Austin Romine: 1-3, 2 BB, 1 K – please stay healthy, please stay healthy…

  44. blake April 5th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Scherzer might be harder to hit than Verlander when he’s on….and it always seems like he’s on against the Yankees……he throws hard with movement.

  45. MaineYankee April 5th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    PacoDooley April 5th, 2013 at 8:55 am
    Cervelli had a nice game, but he almost gave up a run single handedly with his lazy retrieval of the passed ball. He got lucky that he recovered in time to get Victorino, but I am annoyed to see several places call it a nice play – it was a lazy and lucky play if you watch the whole thing.

    That said, Russell Martin once again had a hitless game and continues to look horrible at the plate, following his disaster of a spring…

    ——————————————————————————

    If Andy had covered the plate like a pitcher’s supposed to Victorino never would have tried to come home.

  46. Cashmoney April 5th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    take As as an example, none of those guys really wow anyone with their stuff, but collectively as a starting staff, these guys throw quality strikes.

  47. Tackelberry April 5th, 2013 at 9:12 am

    Hassey,

    Still would rather take my chances with any of those other guys you mentioned instead of Cabrera.

  48. Hassey April 5th, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Yes, no doubt they are all < Cabrera but we are in real trouble if we don't pitch well this series

  49. jacksquat April 5th, 2013 at 9:22 am

    Against All Odds April 5th, 2013 at 7:44 am
    J. Alfred Prufrock April 5th, 2013 at 1:43 am
    Odds, did you see Joba was hitting 96, 97 the other day no prob. Had a curve and slider going. The irony is, he’s just not that good of a reliever. He’s one guy who is just going to be better pitching more innings at a time.

    ——————————-

    I think Joba just needs to be in an environment where he doesn’t feel the need to be perfect. He still nibbles from time to time in certain situations or games.

    So when Joba nibbles instead of using his stuff and attacking hitters, it’s because of his environment? Not his fault? Or, it’s because he’s not a starter, he didn’t have that problem as a starter? (he did)

  50. jacksquat April 5th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Big concerns about Nova and even Mr. Phelps against the Detroit lineup… hope they can handle it.

  51. randy l. April 5th, 2013 at 9:24 am

    big difference between 1-3 and 2-2.

    fister is pretty good for a pitcher with a lifetime losing record.

    watching the games i see glimpses of a yankee team hidden . pettitte /rivera come closest to making them look like a real yankee team.

  52. randy l. April 5th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    just saw manny hitting a homer over the 400 ft sign in dead center in japan.

    theres something fun about watching that guy hit.

  53. Rich in NJ April 5th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    You know what was fun to watch about Manny? Nothing ever seem to bother him. Big spot…big deal. People criticize him…so what.

    In that way, he was almost like the anti-A-Rod, who seemed to take everything to heart here.

  54. Doreen April 5th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Manny is fun to watch from a distance. If you could separate out that he was on the Red Sox. :)

    But I would have wanted nothing to do with the rest of it.

    Of course, had he been a Yankee, and done the same kind of damage, I wouldn’t have complained.

  55. Tar April 5th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Still say not claiming Manny when he was on waivers was a huge mistake. What could have been is mind boggling to me anyway. Just subtracting him from the Son line- up would have certainly cost them 2004. Cest la vie

  56. randy l. April 5th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    manny home run in taiwan( not japan)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/.....1;mlb.html

  57. bruceb April 5th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Just when my love for the Yankees is waning I watch Mariano Rivera – his humility, his cutter, his class – and suddenly all the romance returns. Will life ever be the same without him?

  58. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    I’m not saying I like either option but: Manny > Wells, Overbay, Francisco, Hafner.

    And it’s not even close.

  59. Mike_Boston April 5th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    The best thing about that Manny clip was the home run call, by far.

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