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Pregame notes: “This is typical for CC”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 07, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Start No. 2 for CC Sabathia. And plenty of eyes will be on the radar gun.

“This is typical for CC,” Joe Girardi said. “In the seasons that we’ve had, his velocity in April is not the same as it is in June, July, August. That’s been his DNA. I can’t tell you how high it’s going to go, but I know it’s going to go up. I believe it’s going to go up, just like it did last year. There were a lot of pitches he threw 89, 90 mph early in the season. But I think, because of what he went through last year, I think people are paying closer attention to it. But this is not abnormal for CC.”

That’s fair enough, but Sabathia is also coming off elbow surgery and entering his mid 30s. There are is legitimate reason to wonder whether Opening Day was a sign of things to come, and even more reason to wonder whether Sabathia can make the necessary adjustments if his velocity is going to dip significantly going forward.

“You’ve just got to make sure you don’t get caught up on what’s being said and your focus is just making your pitch,” Girardi said. “There’s been a lot of guys that have pitched successfully anywhere from 89 to 93, 94 and won a lot of games. I had a chance to catch a Hall of Famer, Greg Maddux, and I don’t remember him ever throwing over 92, 93 mph. He won a lot of games, so it comes down to location. … As you get older, you have to get a little wiser. Andy Pettitte used to throw a little harder too, but he’s learned to pitch with what he has, and that’s what you have to do.”

There’s a lot of wait-and-see involved here. Will today’s velocity be the same as it was on Monday? Will it rise as we get into the summer? Will Sabathia’s location, changeup and slider be enough to overcome naturally diminishing velocity if/when it happens?

“CC’s been a command guy too,” Girardi said. “He hasn’t been just a power pitcher that blows people away. You think about his changeup, how effective that’s been. His sinker down and away, how effective that has been. CC has been a guy, for me, that never tries to strike everybody out. He says, here it is, let’s play. I’m going to put it in play and making quality pitches. We can get caught up in the velocity, but I don’t think it’s going to determine his fate.”

• Girardi didn’t post a lineup immediately because he wanted to give Eduardo Nunez a chance to determine whether he could play. “He feels better, but he’s just not ready to go, so we’ll give it a shot again tomorrow,” Girardi said. “He tried to hit and throw today, and it’s just not ready yet.”

• Girardi said he’s still convinced this will be a fairly short-term issue, but clearly Nunez isn’t ready yet and the Yankees are extremely short in the infield without him. The good news, I suppose, is that all four upcoming Indians starters are right-handed, which means the Yankees can use Lyle Overbay without wanting to sit him for platoon purposes.

• Hiroki Kuroda will start tomorrow. “Unless something happens when he’s warming up tomorrow, he’s a go,” Girardi said.

• The Tigers will honor Mariano Rivera with a pregame ceremony. “I think it’s a nice gesture,” Girardi said. “Mo is one of those guys that doesn’t come around very often, so I like it.”

• Girardi on Justin Verlander: “They know what they have to do. The thing about Justin is, he has four swing-and-miss pitches. You have to be patient on him. You have to hope he’s having a hard time commanding a few early in the game, because once he gets on a roll, he’s pretty tough.”

• Girardi on Miguel Cabrera: “You’ve got to make pitches. You’ve got to make pitches and you’ve got to make him uncomfortable and you’ve got to feed off sometimes he can be aggressive, but he’s not a triple crown winner by accident. He’s a great hitter. I think you could argue he’s the best hitter in the game, and if you don’t make pitches, he’s going to hurt you. And sometimes when you do make pitches, he’s going to hurt you.”

• Girardi on Boone Logan: “He’s not in a groove that we’ve seen him get in. But he’ll get in it. We need to get him going because he’s really important, and being that one left-hander, he’s going to be asked to come into crucial situations at different times. Last year it was more later in the game. But the crucial time could be in the fifth, sixth; we’re going to need him.”

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37 Responses to “Pregame notes: “This is typical for CC””

  1. jacksquat April 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    CC has good command, but he is not a pinpoint command guy. He is not just a power pitcher, but he needs a little power. I don’t know if he would be able to be good enough at 89 mph.

  2. Nick in SF April 7th, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    ” So Nunez can’t even throw…. but they’re saying he’ll be ready soon?”

    Nunez: Will I be able to throw anymore?

    Doctor: I don’t see wby not.

    Nunez: I couldn’t before.

  3. austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    CC’s velocity is lower than it has ever been in April, but he is returning from surgery so hopefully is is simply behind. This 89-90 is not, however, normal.

  4. austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    To me, it is not encouraging when Giraedi talks as if CC needs Maddox command. He has always been a power pitcher. Are we now being told he is no more?

  5. bruceb April 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Cabrera batting .368. Cano batting .111. I know it’s only five games into the season but do we really want to be putting our long-term future in the hands of Robby? We needed him to step up in the play-offs last year; we needed him to carry his WBC form through to the start of the season. Both times he has gone AWOL.

  6. blake April 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    With the Yankees offense if CC can just hold them to 4 runs then they should only lose by 4 or less

  7. blake April 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    “Cabrera batting .368. Cano batting .111. I know it’s only five games into the season but do we really want to be putting our long-term future in the hands of Robby?”

    If Cano had Prince hitting behind him then he might be better off……it’s only 5 games

  8. Shame Spencer April 7th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Girardi on Boone Logan: “He’s not in a groove that we’ve seen him get in. But he’ll get in it. We need to get him going because he’s really important, and being that one left-hander, he’s going to be asked to come into crucial situations at different times. Last year it was more later in the game. But the crucial time could be in the fifth, sixth; we’re going to need him.”

    :(

  9. Shame Spencer April 7th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Repost:

    Shame Spencer April 7th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Verlander is usually more hittable in the early innings.. we need to play with a lead. I think we’ve only had two so far, one game we won and the other lead was for a half inning yesterday.

    We can’t have every pitcher pitching high-stress innings and expect to win. We gotta give these guys something to work with. Verlander’s going to get better as the game goes on, so they need to try and touch him for some runs before he hits a groove.

  10. jacksquat April 7th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    And Girardi is wrong a lot in these quotes.

    In his first start last year, CC’s 4-seamer averaged 93.22 mph.

    In his first start this year, CC’s 4-seamer averaged 90.62 mph.

    Also, I’m pretty sure Maddux was throwing at least 92-93 earlier in his career when Girardi caught him, and I”m pretty sure he could hit higher than that.

  11. J. Alfred Prufrock April 7th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    bruceb April 7th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
    Cabrera batting .368. Cano batting .111. I know it’s only five games into the season but do we really want to be putting our long-term future in the hands of Robby? We needed him to step up in the play-offs last year; we needed him to carry his WBC form through to the start of the season. Both times he has gone AWOL.
    ///

    bruce,

    Take a look at who’s protecting Miggy, will you.

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock April 7th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Even though, you know, no such thing as protection in baseball :roll:

  13. Nick in SF April 7th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Protection is important.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ata_player

  14. Benny Blanco April 7th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    As much as we bust Robbie’s chops, I’m not going to give up on him because he’s off to a slow start after 5 games. We all know that when Robbie is locked in he’s one of the games best hitters

  15. bruceb April 7th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    Blake, Jap. Youkilis has been hitting the ball pretty good so far so I’m not buying the protection argument. We can’t keep giving Robby a free pass. We need him to carry this team for a couple of weeks while the sick get healthy. By the time they get back, we could be buried.

  16. austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Stunningly, no one has picked up Juan Rivera. It seems these days the Yankees are the last stop. If you can’t make it there, you can’t make it anywhere.

  17. blake April 7th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    “Blake, Jap. Youkilis has been hitting the ball pretty good so far so I’m not buying the protection argument”

    Do you but the 5 games is meaningless argument then? Look Cano hasn’t hit yet….but he sometimes starts slow and teams are going to pitch around him…..Cano is the least of this teams concerns…..it’s basically everything else

  18. jacksquat April 7th, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    If it’s a matter of protection then Cano should be walking.

    The real problem is they are pitching him outside a lot and he is trying to pull the ball instead of driving it to left-center.

  19. austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Nick,

    I haven’t seen you around lately. Welcome. I am clutching Stubbs sauce hoping for some sign of free spending next year.

  20. bruceb April 7th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Looked pretty good to me during the WBC so I’m not buying the slow start argument either, Blake!!! Probably trying to do too much but I haven’t liked his at-bats.

  21. blake April 7th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    bruceb says:
    April 7, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    Looked pretty good to me during the WBC so I’m not buying the slow start argument either, Blake!!! Probably trying to do too much but I haven’t liked his at-bats.

    He faced a lot of awful pitchers in the WBC too….and he was in a much better lineup…..Cano will hit…..if they don’t make it this year I have a hard time believing its because of him

  22. tucker April 7th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    ” April 7th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    Stunningly, no one has picked up Juan Rivera. It seems these days the Yankees are the last stop. If you can’t make it there, you can’t make it anywhere.”

    Nor has anyone picked up Matt Diaz. I suspect someone will give Aardsma a shot, though.

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock April 7th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    bruceb,

    It’s early and he’ll eventually stop rolling over. Youkilis is hitting well since ST, but miggy and prince are a 2-header monster, much like ortiz-manny was. Cashman traded away what would eventually have been Cano’s protection. Dumb.

  24. jacksquat April 7th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    What pitchers did he face in the WBC? Probably not as good. Did they have a extensive scouting reports for him? Probably not.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock April 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    Stunningly, no one has picked up Juan Rivera.
    ///

    Means Cash can re-sign him again if need be. Stealth.

  26. yankeefeminista April 7th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Detroit honors Mo. Nice.

    Slade is DH’ing; Flores in CF. Have fun at the Trenton game, Randy. Convert “the kid” to the Pinstripes. :) I await your report.

  27. CompassRosy April 7th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Go, CC!
    (He’s on my fbb team ;) )

    ~ ~ ~

    YF, et al…
    Thanks for the heads up re: the MiLB app! I just downloaded it and it’s awesome! Will be so easy to keep tabs on the goings on in Tacoma and Jackson this season!

  28. itsgonnabealongseason April 7th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Cano’s “start” was in the WBC. There is no excuse for him trying to pull those outside pitches. He just might be someone who will have to be a complimentary player (even if a very good one), and just can’t handle the pressure/stress of being “the guy.”

  29. UnKnown April 7th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    “Detroit weather high mid 50?s & a 15-20 mph wind”

    So is this considered warm enough for CC to pitch well?
    Is this what the weather will be when the Yankees are pitching or when Detroit is pitching?

    Still confused how the excuses work. :wink:

  30. Your Worst Nightmare April 7th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    ‘because once he gets on a roll, he’s pretty tough’ …………….

    ============

    Ya think ?

  31. yankeefeminista April 7th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Hi, Rosy. I’ve been watching your team. Looking good. Although your closer nearly blew it the last game I watched.

  32. Nick in SF April 7th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Thank you, austinmac. That sauce would be a sweet and tangy reward. But we need to establish some condition under which I send some San Francisco treat your way, just to make things fair. Tricky, as I know you don’t want to wager on Yankee failure.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock April 7th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    YF, et al…
    Thanks for the heads up re: the MiLB app! I just downloaded it and it’s awesome! Will be so easy to keep tabs on the goings on in Tacoma and Jackson this season!
    ///

    It’s great isn’t it? The cameras aren’t great on milb-tv but the fact that you can actually see the youngens is awesome.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock April 7th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Rarely can someone be “The Guy” in baseball if the lineup sucks. It’s not like a point guard in basketball and center in hockey who gets to control tempo, or a center in basketball can control the boards or something. It’s not a legitimate concept, that one hitter can be the man because they can take the bat out of your hands.

  35. Yankee Trader April 7th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    The main problem is the starters weren’t prepared to go 6-7 innings right out of the gate. The bullpen just isn’t very good and the FO didn’t want to go with pitchers who did well in ST but were not on the 40 man roster like Nuno and Claiborne

  36. austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Has anyone noticed the games were more fun when we had a scary lineup?

  37. austinmac April 7th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Nick,

    How about an attendance counter bet? I predict a greater than a 15% decline.


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