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Postgame notes: Sabathia still starting tomorrow

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 11, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It was a strange scene here in Cleveland. From the moment the Indians announced an 8:30 p.m. first pitch, there wasn’t another official announcement — except the announcement of the starting lineups — until roughly 9 p.m. when the game was officially rained out. Joe Girardi said the Yankees were on their way to the field a little past 8 when he got a call in his office saying the rain was starting again and the game was back on hold.

Now the Yankees seem likely to play a double header here in Cleveland on May 13, which means they’re play 18 games in a span of 17 days (though they might have some guys off the disabled list by then). It’s a mess of a situation because the Yankees aren’t supposed to come back to Cleveland this season.

“I think you’ve got to stay in your division the first month,” Girardi said. “… The other thing, too, is I know teams want night games, and I understand that, but if you had a day game today, it gives you a longer window to play the game.”

• The top of the rotation will stay on turn, skipping both Ivan Nova and Phil Hughes and letting CC Sabathia start tomorrow’s series opener against Baltimore. As of Sunday, the Yankees will have used their top three starters for six straight games. “If you could say there’s a positive to getting rained out two days in a row, I guess (that’s it),” Girardi said.

• There’s rain in the New York forecast for tomorrow, so Girardi said he could use either Hughes or Nova as a long reliever if Sabathia’s start gets cut short. “If we got in a lengthy rain delay, I’ve got two pretty fresh arms,” Girardi said.

• Hughes said he’s been told he’ll start on Tuesday after the Monday off day. Girardi said that’s likely when Hughes will get the ball, but he said it’s also possible the Yankees will go with Nova on Tuesday and Hughes on Wednesday.

• Regardless of who starts Tuesday, the top three guys will get an extra day off next turn.

• Hughes’ voice didn’t sound great, but he said he was plenty healthy to pitch tonight. “I was fine,” he said. “I was good.”

• Obviously two days off isn’t what a team wants when it’s offense has been red hot, but such is life. I guess Hughes gets the final word as we get out of Cleveland. “We’ve gone through rain delays before,” Hughes said. “You just have to sit it out and wait. Everybody was looking at the radar and it didn’t look good. We were just kind of holding tight and hoping we would get a window in, but obviously that didn’t happen.”

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66 Responses to “Postgame notes: Sabathia still starting tomorrow”

  1. Nick in SF April 11th, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    If there’s another rainout tomorrow I will tweet with the fury of a thousand angry suns.

    Tonight I’ll just get some gelato.

  2. MTU April 11th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    This “Global Soaking” thing sucks.

    ;)

  3. CompassRosy April 11th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    Sitting in the Supreme Court here at Safeco Field tonight . . .
    just saw The King record his 1500th career strikeout :)

  4. CompassRosy April 11th, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    @shannondrayer: Beltre congratulates Felix on his way to the dugout. Standing ovation. Montero hands him the ball. #Mariners

  5. Nick in SF April 11th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    The Supreme Court??? :roll:

    Montero needs to stop hitting like Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

  6. tomingeorgia April 11th, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    Sitting here waiting for the last fare to check in. Going to Chattanooga on Monday to gaze off Lookout Mountain and walk the Chickamauga battlefield. Plan to check out the aquarium, too.

  7. tomingeorgia April 11th, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    Anybody see those turkey wings they just brought to the announcers on the Seattle feed? I’m hungry as well as sleepy now.

  8. tomingeorgia April 11th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Turkey legs, I meant.

  9. tomingeorgia April 11th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Thunderstorms and a tornado watch out for here and Augusta til 4AM.

  10. jacksquat April 11th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Bryan Hoch @BryanHoch
    Just walked out of Progressive Field – not a drop of rain. Oh well.
    about 1 hour ago

  11. tomingeorgia April 11th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Still waiting for the West Coast guy, probably circling over Savannah by now. Ah, the innkeeper’s life.

  12. tomingeorgia April 11th, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    I assume, watching the Mariners’ game, that they allow the cheap ticket holders to move down to the premium seats. Nobody in the grandstands.

  13. CompassRosy April 11th, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    Tom ~
    I’m in the 3rd deck…
    it’s a little less than half full…
    Edgar’s and The Pen are packed, CF & LF bleachers pretty sparse….

    ~ ~ ~ ~

    @StoneLarry: Seahawks trio, sitting in first row next to Rangers dugout, leapt to their feet to applaud that double play

  14. tomingeorgia April 12th, 2013 at 12:04 am

    Rosy,,
    Wish I was in the third deck somewhere, but the last guy just arrived. To bed, now, 5:30 wakeup. Night!

  15. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2013 at 12:33 am

    Girardi is right. Adapt game times to the weather.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock April 12th, 2013 at 12:37 am

    pat April 11th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    “Guys talk about what the pitcher has,’’ Youkilis said. “Guys get frustrated when they make out, but they make sure to talk about what the pitcher has, which is good. I’ve been on teams where guys don’t say a word to each other. Guys here have their heads in the games — even the pitchers are out there, high-fiving guys at the end of the game, which is good.’’

    Reading that reminded me about an interview I heard recently with Andy Phillips (remember him?) that ties together 2 of the topics being discussed today.

    Andy is coaching baseball at Alabama and was interviewed on ESPN. The guy interviewing him was talking about his time with the Yankees and said he must have hated playing with Alex. Andy laughed and said Alex is a good friend and teammate.

    He said Alex was responsible for his first big league hit. He said he got called to pinch hit for Alex and Alex pulled him aside and said this guy is going to throw you a cutter. Get ready for it and put a good swing on it. Andys first ML hit was a first pitch, HR in Fenway. He joked that he set the expectaion level for fans too high after doing that.

    He also said when he was dealing with his mother and wifes health issues when he was playing in NY, Alex was great to him and would speak up to maagement on his behalf.

    Media, like Kernan did today, like to characterize Alex as a clubhouse problem but it seems the media has more problems with him than teammates.
    /////

    Wow, you hear it from a teammate and it sets the record straight.

    I never bought the “clubhouse c*ncer” thing about Alex – just a BS character assassination from the media, who don’t bother to seek out or tell stories like the one above, so we get their interpretation of who the guy is.

    It was pretty clear where Alex stood in the clubhouse when Posada, who has zero humor for people who aren’t dead serious about winning, said of Alex: “He’ll be my friend forever.” Mattingly had praised him for being the Yanks’ go-to guy on opposing pitchers, giving detailed scouting reports the team used. Nice to hear Andy Phillips stand up for him.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock April 12th, 2013 at 12:39 am

    Ramon Flores is such a pleasure to watch hit. He’s going to play for some MLB team; I sure hope it’s us.

  18. antisocial scrooge April 12th, 2013 at 12:53 am

    anyone catch dodgers/san diego? vin scully is a treasure.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock April 12th, 2013 at 1:12 am

    antisocial – He’s the best.

  20. UnKnown April 12th, 2013 at 2:23 am

    Sucks for Grienke and LA. Broken collarbone

  21. blake April 12th, 2013 at 5:43 am

    I bet the Dodgers are pumped about greinke ….

    Here in Augusta….headed over for when the gates open. Have a good day all….be in a phone free zone all day

  22. blake April 12th, 2013 at 5:44 am

    Quentin really overstepped it seems…..

  23. blake April 12th, 2013 at 6:09 am

    Donnie and kemp were hot

  24. tomingeorgia April 12th, 2013 at 6:50 am

    blake,
    Have a great day!

  25. Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 6:51 am

    Good morning.

    Just saw about Greinke. Loved what Mattingly had to say that Quentin should have to miss as much time as Greinke is going to and that it is absolutely wrong that Quentin will probably be back playing in 3 days.

    I really hope all the rain falls during the day and clears up by tonight. It would really get to be a problem if now the rest of the pitching staff is off its regular rest. Bad enough Hughes and Nova are, though in Hughes’ case, he will probably benefit from having more time to feel 100%.

    And Girardi is right about the scheduling in April, when the weather does seem to be more iffy, and also, yesterday was a getaway day. It should be a day game anyway for travel, but, if you consistently have getaway day a day game, you CAN schedule a DH if any of the games gets rained out.

  26. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:00 am

    Good morning, apparently there’s a sheet of ice out there. Did my team win? Is Naomi Watts going to visit me for dinner? At the very least blake is taking me to the masters. Good lord, who’s starting in Kansas, Dorothy?

  27. Crawdaddy April 12th, 2013 at 7:08 am

    I like how everybody automatically takes Greinke’s side like he’s some innocent baby here. I bet he said more than love and kisses to Quentin that got him to charge the mound. Remember there are always two sides to a fight.

  28. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:10 am

    Check that, I’d never make it to the Masters, the kitchen is far enough away; time to move the coffee maker beside the bed. Why be perky when my arms are in quick sand?

  29. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:13 am

    Ahhh, baseball fights; Craig Nettles, the Spaceman, and a torn shoulder, but it was worth it! Then again, Josh Johnson, it could be good for the soul.

  30. Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 7:23 am

    Crawdaddy,

    Apparently so. I think I read that Quentin did not charge the mound right away but after words were exchanged.

    Still he put Greinke out, and neither one is faultless.

  31. Crawdaddy April 12th, 2013 at 7:30 am

    Doreen,

    They’re both at fault, but Greinke acted like he was Bo Jackson taking on a tackler with his skinny butt.

  32. MG April 12th, 2013 at 7:37 am

    Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 7:23 am
    Crawdaddy,

    Apparently so. I think I read that Quentin did not charge the mound right away but after words were exchanged.

    Still he put Greinke out, and neither one is faultless.
    ——————–
    Doreen, I just watched the video, Quentin came right after Greinke, there was less than a 1 second pause before he charged the mound.

    Vin Scully said on TV that they had buzzed Matt Kemp earlier in the game and that might have caused the pitch to Quentin but he’s a guy that has been hit over 100 times in his career and the pitch was inside but he could have gotten out of the way if he wasn’t diving towards home plate.

    Greinke met Quentin with his left shoulder, that’s probably to protect his throwing side.

    None of this should have happened but it’s been going on for the entire history of baseball, it’s just unfortunate that Greinke got hurt.

  33. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:41 am

    Drysdale is wondering what the problem was in the first place. Frank Robinson went up and down, up and down and didn’t seem to mind, in fact I think he respected Don.

  34. randy l. April 12th, 2013 at 7:44 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHerYuWEfB0

    looks to me that greinke in this video was throwing at quentin by the way he walks towards home plate after the pitches as if to challenge quentin. greinke looks like the aggressor in this video.

    it looks to me he wanted a piece of quentin.

    be careful what you wish for :)

    plus greinke may have broken his own collarbone with the left shoulder attempted tackle of quentin.

    i would have done the same thing as quentin did if there was a history like that with this pitcher.

  35. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    Randy, thanks for the hx lesson.

  36. Pville April 12th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    “Well, everybody that gets hit gets upset, especially when you aren’t swinging the bat well and all of a sudden you get hit,” Guillen said. “That’s part of the game. Carlos is a guy who is going to get hit a lot because he stands on top of the plate. I don’t think it was intentional.”

    That’s what Quentin’s own manager said after the 2009 incident that caused the bad blood.

  37. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:51 am

    Interesting, palmer had a HOF career refusing to take out retribution.

  38. Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Definitely a history there, which I read about.

    Situation in the game at hand though suggests this likely was not intentional on Greinke’s part, and history suggests that Quentin is not unwilling to take a HBP. It doesn’t take more than a second for Greinke to say something like, for instance, why don’t you get out of the way? Or something to that effect which, on top of not liking where he was hit, could have sent Quentin over the top.

    Neither blameless, but one will miss a lot of time on the DL.

  39. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    Garth Iorg hung out closer to the plate than that.

  40. MG April 12th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Randy, it looks to me like Greinke threw at Quentin in 2009 but it doesn’t look like it last night.

    It was a 3-2 pitch, 6th inning, 2-1 game, not exactly the time to throw at someone.

    Quentin didn’t exactly try to get out of the way, if that was Jeter he would have easily avoided the pitch.

    As Doreen said, Greinke could have just said, ‘get the ***k out of the way next time’

    Greinke also stepped towards 1st base after hitting him last night but who knows what happened out there…

  41. Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 8:06 am

    MG

    You embellished. I did not use the !$&@*** word.

    ;)

  42. Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 8:07 am

    Though it’s conceivable that Greinke could have. Lol

  43. MTU April 12th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    “Who will stop the rain ?”

    Surely not CC and R.

    :)

  44. MG April 12th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 8:06 am
    MG

    You embellished. I did not use the !$&@*** word.
    ————————–
    that’s true, sorry :)

    I am a born and bred NYer, it’s part of the heritage lol

  45. MTU April 12th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Greinke should have taken lessons from Rick Porcello on how to dump a charging ballplayer.

    ;)

  46. Doreen April 12th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Mg.

    :)

  47. RadioKev April 12th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Can you just injure people in brawls with no repercussion besides suspension? I’m curious. Let’s say you accidentally kill a guy. What happens?

  48. MTU April 12th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Kev-

    Manslaughter 1 or 2.

    It’s up to the Prosecutor.

  49. RadioKev April 12th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    MTU, that’s what I figured… so could Greinke press charges against Quentin if he wanted? Just wondering what the line is.

  50. randy l. April 12th, 2013 at 8:21 am

    doreen-

    did you see the video i posted?

    greinke clearly strides towards quentin after hitting him in 2009.
    he challenges quentin by doing this. if the pitch was accidental because the hitter crowds the plate, a pitcher just does his normal follow through and turns and goes back to the mound. greinke walks right at quentin. he’s asking for trouble doing this.

    i think the comments from both players explains a lot of what happened:

    http://www.clickorlando.com/sp.....index.html

    greinke saying he thinks quentin tries to intimidate pitchers by standing close pretty much tells where greinke was coming from.

    and he may not have thrown at quentin, but if he didn’t, don’t walk towards the guy after hitting him. i don’t feel one bit sorry for greinke.

    the pitch to me that makes me think greinke deserved it was the one at the head of quentin.
    the body language looks to me like greinke is saying so what.

    careers can be over are over when a pitch is to the head. bill lee was a punk who got what he deserved with nettles. im not saying greinke is a punk like lee, but he was looking for trouble by walking towards a batter he hit.

    and he found it. to me end of story.

  51. MTU April 12th, 2013 at 8:22 am

    Kev-

    I should have included a “smiley”. I’m no Lawyer.

    Maybe one of our resident counselors could respond to your question.

    Sorry for the confusion.

  52. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 8:27 am

    I had me a woman who threw plates, china and whatever else wasn’t tied down,….I loved her :D

  53. Cashmoney April 12th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    talk the talk, walk the walk, I am with Randy on this one. I don’t wish anyone ill, Greinke would get a beat down in a NY second, Mattingly should know that. Complete bs he threw out there, he is a ballplayer. I have yet seen anything that distinguish Mattingly as a manager.

  54. austinmac April 12th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    Injuring someone on an athletic field in a manner outside the rules can lead to prosecution much like it has for a hockey player or two. For example, it Soler has hit someone with a bat, he would certainly be subject to prosecution.

    MTU gets to move to the front row of the class.

  55. jmills April 12th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Austin, exactly, you throw a baseball at my head, the bat’s comung out with me.( In reality, I’d probably just stand there screaming )

  56. MTU April 12th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    Mac-

    Thanks. I knew it. I just knew that I was born to be Perry Mason.

    I’m giving up Hiking and Photography immediately to persue my true calling. The Law.

    :)

  57. MG April 12th, 2013 at 8:39 am

    I have no dog in this fight but, regardless of the history between them, Quentin made absolutely no attempt to get out of the way of this pitch, which hit him on the upper arm. Just stop the video after the ball is released and before it hits him, he just kept diving in towards home plate.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....DZwHbYcQlk

  58. ron April 12th, 2013 at 8:42 am

    A goat’s head was delivered to Wrigley Field on Wednesday addressed to Chicago Cubs owner Tom Ricketts, a team spokesman confirmed.
    No note was included, and it was turned over to Chicago police.

    According to Cubs spokesman Julian Green, a man stopped the white van he was driving, walked a box to a security entrance on Waveland Avenue and wordlessly put it down.

    Security workers opened the box and discovered the severed head.
    It’s possible the goat’s head is in reference to a “curse” placed on the team during the 1945 World Series. Restaurant owner Billy Sianis brought his goat to a game, but was asked to leave and he vowed the team would never win again.

  59. Cashmoney April 12th, 2013 at 8:48 am

    There definitely some history there MG, and there is a reason Quentin gets hit by pitch at a historical rate. But regardless, this is a case of bad blood spilling over and someone unfortunately got hurt. But eh, *(*( happens.

    That’s pretty much the end to this particular episode. Mattingly ought to be concern about refraining his star Kemp than being livid at what is norm in baseball. If he thinks and believes that Quentin ought to suspended as long as Greinke is hurt then there is detachment to reality there.

  60. MTU April 12th, 2013 at 8:50 am

    According to MLBTR the M’s have DFA’ed DJ Mitchell.

  61. ac1 April 12th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    We going to try to get Mitchell back in the system?

  62. ac1 April 12th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    There definitely some history there MG, and there is a reason Quentin gets hit by pitch at a historical rate. But regardless, this is a case of bad blood spilling over and someone unfortunately got hurt. But eh, *(*( happens.
    _

    Kemp had a ball thrown close to his head in his first AB.
    He didn’t charge the mound.
    Quentin gets hit in the arm and he does…..
    Sorry but i have a hard time believing Greinke was throwing at someone on a 3-2 count, up by 1 run.

  63. randy l. April 12th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    mg-

    i have no dog in it either,but greinke really should just turn away and go back to his business after hitting anyone even if accidentally .

    if for no other reason than he’s a lousy tackler :)

    he really did likely injure himself with his attempted tackle.

  64. Cashmoney April 12th, 2013 at 9:08 am

    There is a history between those two,AC. Whether you and I believe it is intentional matters little to Quentin and Greinke or MLB. Kemp could have charged the mound if he choose to, but he did not, good for him. But this is not a case one Pollyanna gets attack by a villain here. it’s baseball. Quentin charge mound after some brief verbal exchange between the two. He will be suspended for that. that’s all. it happens.

    for the record, I don’t think Greinke threw at him intentionally either. But Quentin did what he did and it’s at his discretion. My guess is that he gets 10 games max.

  65. ac1 April 12th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    for the record, I don’t think Greinke threw at him intentionally either. But Quentin did what he did and it’s at his discretion. My guess is that he gets 10 games max.
    ___

    I agree they are all adults and Greinke should have walked the other way after the HBP because apparently he doesn’t know how to protect himself.

    That also being said, i saw Padres players apologizing for their teammate which leads be to believe they dont believe in his cause either….

    Quentin should go to the plate with extra padding next time, especially if Beckett is pitching…

  66. Cashmoney April 12th, 2013 at 9:25 am

    I despise Beckett AC, but yeah he does protect his teammates and has a nasty streak in him. Tangentially, it reminded me of a time that Pedro headhunted Jete and others while Moose never retaliated. That did bug me quite a bit.


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