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Game 17: Yankees at Blue Jays

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 21, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (10-6)
Brett Gardner CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Vernon Wells LF
Travis Hafner DH
Lyle Overbay 1B
Eduardo Nunez SS
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Jayson Nix 3B
Chris Stewart C

RHP Ivan Nova (1-1, 5.59)
Nova vs. Blue Jays

BLUE JAYS (7-11)
Munenori Kawasaki SS
Melky Cabrera LF
Jose Bautista RF
Edwin Encarnacion 1B
Adam Lind DH
J.P. Arencibia C
Colby Rasmus CF
Brett Lawrie 3B
Maicer Izturis 2B

RHP Josh Johnson (0-1, 6.91)
Johnson vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 1:07 p.m., YES Network

WEATHER: One last game under the Canadian dome before moving to the St. Pete dome.

UMPIRES: HP Tim Timmons, 1B Mike Winters, 2B Mark Wegner, 3B Laz Diaz

WANG’S DEBUT: Chien-Ming Wang pitched 5.1 scoreless innings for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre last night. He was making his first start in the Yankees’ system since 2009, and scattered six hits to go with three strikeouts and no walks. Wang got nine ground ball outs, only two in the air.

LOOKING TO SWEEP: With a win today, the Yankees would have their first sweep of Toronto at Rogers Centre in a series of at least three games since 2003. The Yankees are 4-1 this season in series finales, having lost their first such game on Thursday against Arizona.

RUSSELL WHO? Yankees catchers have a .304 (17-for-56) batting average this season, the fifth-highest mark in the Majors. In 2012, the Yankees catchers ranked 24th in batting in the Majors (.220, 119-for-542) and 17th in OBP (.308).

UPDATE, 1:31 p.m.: Nunez makes a throwing error on a double play he wasn’t likely to turn anyway. What really cost the Yankees were the back-to-back singles to open the first inning. It’s a quick 1-0 Blue Jays lead after one.

UPDATE, 1:43 p.m.: Nova allows a leadoff double here in the second.

UPDATE, 1:48 p.m.: Sac fly and a 2-0 Jays lead.

UPDATE, 1:53 p.m.: Chris Stewart — yes, that Chris Stewart — gives the Yankees a solo homer to cut the lead to 2-1 in the third.

UPDATE, 2:06 p.m.: Chris Stewart is hitting homers. Travis Hafner is stealing bases. It’s getting zany here in Toronto, but the inning is over without another Yankees run.

UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: Wells makes a terrific catch, starts a 7-4-3 double play, then tips his cap to the fans who have been screaming at him all series. That was fun.

UPDATE, 2:43 p.m.: Two-out, bases-loaded walk for Overbay to tie the game at 2 in the top of the fifth. Wells also had a hit this inning. The Blue Jays fans are furious.

UPDATE, 2:45 p.m.: And now a bases loaded walk for Nunez. Johnson looking lost at this point. It’s a 3-2 Yankees lead.

UPDATE, 3:13 p.m.: Before this inning started, Sweeny Murti and I were talking about this as a perfect opportunity — facing left-right-left — to bring in Boone Logan to open the inning. Instead, Nova is shaky again and now there are two on with no outs with Logan finally coming in to face Rasmus.

UPDATE, 3:18 p.m.: Rasmus breaks his bat, but still gets a single into shallow left-center field to cut the Yankees lead to 4-3. Still no outs. Runners at the corners.

UPDATE, 3:22 p.m.: Now Lawrie has a double barely inside the foul line and it’s a 5-4 Blue Jays lead in the sixth. Wild turn of events here.

UPDATE, 3:41 p.m.: Man at second with no outs, but Hafner and Overbay each struck out, and now it’s up to Nunez against new right-handed reliever Esmil Rogers.

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538 Responses to “Game 17: Yankees at Blue Jays”

  1. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Go Vato! Go Yanks!

  2. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    GO YANKS!!! GO IVAN!!! GO KC!!!

  3. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Atta boy, Gardy.

  4. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Gardner should be on 2b already.

  5. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    And that would be a run.

  6. Sir Harden Thick April 21st, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Gardner has never stolen consistently batting leadoff, always better at SB batting 9th

  7. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Go jays!

  8. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    J. Johnson looks better than he did last year.

  9. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Johnson looks good. Gardner was right to wait for Cano.

  10. tomingeorgia April 21st, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Let’s go, boys!

  11. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Ok, u know I love u people, but, damn, I require a, win :) Trish, Alfred, thanks for your friendship, as always.

  12. Benny Blanco April 21st, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    What luck for nova.. that sucks

  13. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Throw strikes, Nova.

  14. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Hi Tom, my precious Italian sweater ” seams ” to have survived the washing trip. Hope your daughter’s wedding went well, Vernon :D

  15. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    That’s the way you do it!

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    jmills -steadfast and tight!

  17. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    In case anyone didn’t know it, MLB.com sucks !!!

  18. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Not going to get that kind of curveball past Cabrera.

  19. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Off speed breaking ball, followed by, 95.

  20. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    If Johnson looks good, all the more reason to run. Last 18/18 have stolen on Johnson.

  21. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Beauty! K.

  22. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Jose, go back to the bench, shut your mouth.

  23. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    That’s a strike, Jose.

  24. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    What was that throw all about????????? Nova got out of the jam, scot free

  25. Northy April 21st, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Should have been a tailor-made DP

  26. Sir Harden Thick April 21st, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Nunez has been regressing since Jeter got hurt again

  27. Sir Harden Thick April 21st, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Wang is almost ready

  28. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Sir Harden Thick April 21st, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Nunez has been regressing since Jeter got hurt again
    ————

    It’s only been a couple games since that happened. It’s a little too soon to suggest that there’s some sort of trend.

  29. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    tailor made? really?
    they were shifted and to be fair, it looked like the runner would have been safe whether he made a good throw or not.

  30. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Hi, YF, I like the Talking Heads a lot, as well as Vernon Wells – la Police avec my man, Sting, ( of course! )

  31. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Nova’s stuff is very good… it just seems like he’s not trusting it.

  32. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    C’mon, Ivan! You’re one pitch away from getting out of the inning.

  33. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    This is another terrible start for Nova, look for a 10-2 game, Jays.

  34. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    tailor made? really?
    they were shifted and to be fair, it looked like the runner would have been safe whether he made a good throw or not.

    And the ball wasn’t hit that hard. However, a good throw might have gotten him.

  35. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Work up the pitch count

  36. Sir Harden Thick April 21st, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Adam Warren will be in today for all Adam Warren fans

  37. Hassey April 21st, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    That huge zit on Nova’s left cheek must be throwing off his mechanics

  38. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    This is another terrible start for Nova, look for a 10-2 game, Jays.
    =======

    You’re always just a little ray of sunshine, aren’tcha?

  39. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    And the ball wasn’t hit that hard. However, a good throw might have gotten him.
    ____

    It would have been very close.
    I wouldnt say Nunez’s fielding is regressing, but his hitting has….

  40. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Timmy, we’ve only just begun on this Poseiden Adventure.

  41. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Good on Nova for limiting the damage. He made some tough pitches that inning, and his strikeout of Bautista in a key spot was impressive.

  42. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    As I said in earlier thread this morning, not sold on Gardy or Nunie.

    Francisco, Nix, and Stewie can walk now !

    Hughes & Nova are still up in the air, ( somewhere )

  43. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Nova will settle down. Just has to command better. The stuff is nasty. Is that radar gun legit or elevated? Seems everyone is a tick up on the gun.

  44. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Lyle,..continues.

  45. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    Good afternoon guys

  46. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Overbay has very quietly been quite impressive. He’s far exceeded my expectations for him.

  47. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    4 NYY – any trivia?

  48. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I’m obsessed with Nunez’s helmet situation.

  49. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Keep working hard.

  50. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I’m obsessed with Nunez’s helmet situation.

    How so?

  51. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I’m obsessed with Nunez’s helmet situation.

    How so?

    ———

    I could watch clips of him running to 1B with that thing wobbling around and falling off on loop.

  52. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Ichiro just looks awful. He’s always had an ugly swing, but it looks much worse now that he’s missing.

  53. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Ugh!!

  54. waka flocka April 21st, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    what has to happen for Nova to not start? this guys still cruising on stuff he did two years ago.

  55. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    I could watch clips of him running to 1B with that thing wobbling around and falling off on loop.

    ——–

    :lol:

  56. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    “I could watch clips of him running to 1B with that thing wobbling around and falling off on loop.”

    4/20 was yesterday, young lady.

  57. Northy April 21st, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Ac1
    Point taken – the replay showed it wasn’t that tailormade after all…

  58. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    waka flocka April 21st, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    what has to happen for Nova to not start? this guys still cruising on stuff he did two years ago.
    ——

    Not true.

  59. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Maybe he doesn’t have a helmet of his own… Maybe he is borrowing Gardner’s helmet, he sure has a big head, so it is kind of loose ;)

  60. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Should have tabled at least one run there. :(

    That Nunez play was a tough play.

    Nova will be fine.

    Hi jmills. Not listening to any of the above lately.

    Que tal, luis?

  61. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Oy.

  62. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Ichiro’s swing looked better yesterday. He’ll be a big contributor before long.

  63. sunny615 April 21st, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    NunEEEEEEEEz

  64. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Hola YF,

    It’s raining down here and lost the signal from DirectTV :(

  65. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Grrr

  66. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Luis, sorry to hear; are you on gameday?

  67. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    I hope Nunez didn’t get hurt on that play.

  68. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Yup

  69. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    YF, your ankle is amazing I presume. I’m living in Paul Molitar world.

    Good defense by, Nova.

  70. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    “It’s raining down here and lost the signal from DirectTV ”

    As a content provider, DirecTV has no equal, but I had to get rid of it because of frequent signal outages.

  71. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Nova just need to be more consistent. He pitched Bautista brilliantly, then he seemingly checked out against Lind and the count was 3-1. He can use a concentration lesson or two from Andy.

  72. Hassey April 21st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Unnecessarily late slide…he’ll get hit sometime soon

  73. Sir Harden Thick April 21st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Well 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. Gotta hit better vs Moore, Price, Cobb. 2 lefties though

  74. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    jmills, not amazing but progressing. Thanks.

  75. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Ichiro’s swing looked better yesterday. He’ll be a big contributor before long.

    —-

    I still have hope for him.

  76. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Ink blots today’s game.

    Has Gardner become gun shy about stealing a base, Cano will hit the ball anywhere and doesn’t require the hole between 1st. and 2nd.?

    Nova should be told to establish one pitch he can deliver accurately, the fastball.
    Until then he’s a questionable starter.

    Had anyone ever said the 3-4-5 hitters in any NY Yankee line up would be today’s, they would have been institutionalized.

    Please bag Nix and get a kid up here!

    Why Ichiro two years, he looks pathetic!

    Nunez may not be the answer, where to from here? Again, we have a couple of switch hitters in the minors who are middle IF’s,are they possibles?

    Finally, does Boesch ever get a longer look whikle Ichiro is here?

  77. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Kowasaki!

  78. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    DirecTV has no problem delivering its signal through heavy fog. :neutral:

  79. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Nova just need to be more consistent. He pitched Bautista brilliantly, then he seemingly checked out against Lind and the count was 3-1. He can use a concentration lesson or two from Andy.

    He’s still battling. As long as he doesn’t quit on himself, I think that he’ll come around.

  80. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    All right. 2-0 isn’t too bad. Hoping Nova settles down like in the last game.

  81. Hassey April 21st, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    Hey we keep winning series but that doesn’t mean fans should be happy that the third game could soon be over before it started

  82. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    When Nova pitches, the team needs two starters.

  83. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    YF, you’re pretty fast, Nick, tell Steve McQueen he can’t tie Gilles Villeneuve’s shoes.

  84. waka flocka April 21st, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Ghostwriter,

    what’s Nova done that should make him a virtual lock for this rotation? the Yankees didn’t even bother trying to upgrade over Hughes and Nova. why?

  85. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Stewie 4evah!

  86. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Stewie!!!! :lol:

  87. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Smoked Stew!

  88. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Wow, Stewart

  89. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Hit me pole,…again.

  90. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Hitless Stew with a Homer!!!! HAHA!! Damn I should have on that!! 300-1 odds

  91. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Both Cervelli and Stewart over .300 now, lol.

  92. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Trade him when his value is high…

  93. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Gardner rocking BABIP.

  94. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    let’s see the speed, Brett.

  95. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    *I should have bet on that!* 300-1 odds

  96. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Hi Tyler, you can have Doug Gilmour back!

  97. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    waka flocka April 21st, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Ghostwriter,

    “what’s Nova done that should make him a virtual lock for this rotation? ”
    —Who said that he should be a lock for the rotation?

    “the Yankees didn’t even bother trying to upgrade over Hughes and Nova. why?”
    —How precisely were they supposed to Upgrade oiver Hughes and Nova?

  98. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Gardner needs to swipe a bag here

  99. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Gardner needs to swipe a bag here
    ===

    No, let Robbie swing the bat.

  100. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Jack Morris is great on my radio!

  101. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Kawasaki had a lead with two feet on the carpet. Gardner needs to take a more aggressive lead

  102. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Climb the ladder, Cano.

  103. luis April 21st, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    What were you thinking Robbie??

  104. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    They don’t need to upgrade Hughes now, he is an established #4. Phelps could obviously replace Nova.

  105. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    SB!

  106. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Hi, Luis, we’ve got a game here ! :)

  107. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Good steal Gardy

  108. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Nice job by Brett!

  109. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    I’m trying to picture Gilles Villeneuve cooly bouncing a baseball off a German prison cell wall or cycling away from Nazis, can’t do it.

    http://www.yalerecord.com/word.....escape.jpg

  110. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Gardner stealing on Johnson is very low risk. And he just stole it easily…

  111. jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Gardner has the worst instincts. He finally stole a base 8 pitches too late. OVERRATED!!!!!

  112. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Darn. That’s twice Johnson got Wells exactly the same way.

  113. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Heads up play there from Gardy

  114. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    They don’t need to upgrade Hughes now, he is an established #4. Phelps could obviously replace Nova.
    ———-

    And do what with Nova?

  115. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Hi Nick, Gilles is better than moi!

  116. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    C’mon, Travis..

  117. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    “And do what with Nova?”

    AAA. The results were good the last time he was sent down. He needs to straighten out his mechanics, which should increase his command.

  118. OldSchoolYankeeFan April 21st, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Into the cooler with you Hilts!

  119. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Hafner has a good idea of the strike zone.

  120. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    I smell an RBI from the Haf

  121. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Nice AB by Pronk

  122. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    They really need to keep Hafner healthy. If they do, he can have big platoon season.

  123. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    That meeting is to walk Overbay and face Nunez?

  124. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Hafner steal in less pitches than Gardy?

  125. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Nice work by the speedy Hafner!

  126. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Over!

  127. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Defensive indifference?

  128. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    No, just to review how to pitch to him…

  129. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Rich, yep key is to keep Haf, Youk healthy.

  130. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    “Gardner stealing on Johnson is very low risk. And he just stole it easily…”

    The Hafner SB proves you right.

  131. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Too bad. At least they got a run, and made Johnson work. Now we need a zero from Nova.

  132. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Defensive indifference?
    ===
    With the go-ahead run?? No way. That is a steal.

  133. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    Nick, let’s get this thing straight- Villeneuve absolutely crushes, McQueen

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/Y.....#038;rel=0

  134. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    “Gardner stealing on Johnson is very low risk. And he just stole it easily…”

    The Hafner SB proves you right.
    ===

    ?? So, there was a speedy runner standing on third when Gardner made his steal?

  135. OldSchoolYankeeFan April 21st, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Hafner steals!

  136. pkyankfan69 April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Wow, SICK PLAY!!!!!

  137. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Wow Wells!

  138. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Nice grab by Wells!!!!

  139. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Beautiful play

  140. Benny Blanco April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Nice

  141. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Not exactly how I picture a DP, but I’ll take it… What a play by Wells

  142. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    I’m still skeptical of Wells offensively, but he has looked pretty good defensively.

  143. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Take a deep breath and get the 3rd out please, Ivan.

  144. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Woot! Great play x2!

    Settle down, Novs.

  145. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Okay, Ivan! Now, get ‘er done!

  146. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    “?? So, there was a speedy runner standing on third when Gardner made his steal?”

    What? The point is that Gardner could have tried to steal with Cano up.

  147. OldSchoolYankeeFan April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Jeez wrote that awhile ago, stuck in orinda tunnel haha

  148. MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    anyone who complained about the Wells trade when it was made needs to say, ‘I was wrong, Vernon can still play’…

  149. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Wells making cashman look good

  150. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Hopefully, Vern doesn’t start having back spasms after that jump.

  151. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    wooo

  152. jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    VERNON WELLS—__”Hang a star on that one…”

  153. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    jmills wanted a trivia question.

    Who was first leadoff hitter to attain 100 RBI ?

  154. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Ill say it. I was wrong, wells can still play and im happy i was wrong..l

  155. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    That’s as good as it gets. Shine on.

  156. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    What a play by Wells. Nova should be in AAA. It’s really hard to believe that he is in the rotation over Phelps. Nova has no command of his fastball and really has no idea where his pitches are going.

  157. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    “With the go-ahead run?? No way. That is a steal.”

    It was a joke Mr. Ghostwriter.

  158. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    “anyone who complained about the Wells trade when it was made needs to say, ‘I was wrong, Vernon can still play’…”

    Um, it’s April. People were ringing the Russell Martin bell in early May 2011.

    We all want the Yankees to win. If we want to start rubbing people’s noses in stuff based on three weeks, we can all find our face in something.

  159. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    The Wells acquisition was INEXCUSABLE :mad:

  160. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Ill say it. I was wrong, wells can still play and im happy i was wrong..l
    ===

    Good on you! Now, that wasn’t so hard, was it? :)

  161. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    And the issue with the Wells trade could $13m be better spent. If they don’t make a big trade for a young player who is available down the road because of that money, what he does really doesn’t matter so much.

  162. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    “With the go-ahead run?? No way. That is a steal.”

    It was a joke Mr. Ghostwriter.
    ====

    Sorry. :oops:

  163. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    If Nova continues to be inconsistent Adam Warren should get a shot.

    he shows low 90′s fastball that has movement, a decent curve a a surprising change which I hadn’t seen before this year.

    He also seems to understand how to pitch.

    One need not have a 95+ fastball to be successful, see Maddox, Ford, Stottlemyer etc.. location, late movement and change of speed!

  164. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Ricky Henderson

  165. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    Phelps had been best when taking over for a starter early or in the middle of games. Not bad numbers though as a starter.

  166. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    If Wells continues to hit and play well Ichiro and Gardner should split playing time when Granderson comes back. No way can Girardi sit him for one of them.

  167. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    No sorry, not Henderson.

  168. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    If Wells continues to hit and play well Ichiro and Gardner should split playing time when Granderson comes back. No way can Girardi sit him for one of them.
    ===

    I think that you’re right. Wells is our leftfielder. It’s his job to lose, at this point.

  169. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    “If Wells continues to hit and play well Ichiro and Gardner should split playing time when Granderson comes back. No way can Girardi sit him for one of them.”

    Why should Gardner sit?

  170. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    If Wells continues to hit and play well Ichiro and Gardner should split playing time when Granderson comes back. No way can Girardi sit him for one of them.

    ============================

    Huh? … The only one that should see his playing time diminish is Ichiro

  171. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    I think Ichiro since he makes nearly 7 mil will not be cast away on the bench especially since his game is similar to Gardner’s. It won’t be long before Ichiro is outhitting Gardner anyways.

  172. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    One more, who was last pitcher to win at least 20 and lose at least 20 in a season ?

  173. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    The Yanks have to lay off that curve ball it’s never a strike. Johnson really isn’t impressive but they are definitely helping him out by swinging at really bad pitches.

  174. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Luis, exactly.

  175. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    jmills-

    Congrats on the Leafs playoff berth. Blues have an opportunity to clinch tonight with a win.

  176. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Assuming LF belongs to Wells and Granderson plays CF, that leaves RF. Ichiro plays RF, Gardner does not.

    They could trade Granderson and put Gardner in CF.

  177. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    If Nova continues to be inconsistent Adam Warren should get a shot.

    ==========

    They are never going to develop any young pitchers, if they don’t allow them to work through their problems. The strength of the Yanks’ rotation affords them the luxury of giving Nova some more starts. And if you haven’t noticed, the Yanks are still in this game.

  178. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Hard to believe that the NHL playoffs are starting in a week.

  179. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Ugh Nix…

    Mr Bustero,

    If that happens then they don’t care about winning… Gardner brings better defense than Granderson in CF…And a much better batting approach than Ichiro… No way Gardner should sit when Granderson comes back.

  180. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    And knowing what we know about Jeter now you can’t put Wells at DH.

  181. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    It’s not simply that Ichiro is not getting hits, it’s the absolutely terrible swings he’s having and……….please nix Nix!

    When you bat in a severe crouch you simply will not catch up to high heaters!

    We are living on fairy dust to date, how long can mediocrity survive?

  182. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Assuming LF belongs to Wells and Granderson plays CF, that leaves RF. Ichiro plays RF, Gardner does not.

    They could trade Granderson and put Gardner in CF.
    ——–

    I think that could be an attractive possiibility. However, I would sit Ichiro, before I sat Brett. Gardner has been producing.

  183. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    4 NYY, Upshaw got 100 ribbies at first, the first I do not know what.

  184. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    “If that happens then they don’t care about winning… Gardner brings better defense than Granderson in CF…And a much better batting approach than Ichiro… No way Gardner should sit when Granderson comes back.”

    They care about winning but they take what they think is the safe route, which often puts a ceiling on how god they can be.

  185. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    It’s for certain that someone in the outfield is gonna split some time ! Lol

    Gotta have a 4th outfielder. Boesch ?

  186. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    Luis they’re not gonna put Gardner in RF or take Wells out of LF or Granderson out of CF. The only way Gardner avoids the bench is if Granderson gets traded which I am a proponent of btw

  187. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    DP! Atta boy, Vato.

  188. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    That’s a nice DP

  189. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Is John Buck for real? I doubt it. He’s another example of not putting too much stock in a few weeks.

  190. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    4 NYY, Upshaw got 100 ribbies at first, the first I do not know what.

    =================

    First leadoff guy was Darren Erstad.

  191. MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    It’s hard to put a handle on it but Nova has good stuff and never seems to get an easy out.

    Just about every batter is getting a good rip at something during his AB or walking.

    He got a DP after walking Rasmus but there was really no reason for the walk after being ahead 1-2 and Rasmus not looking comfortable against him.

  192. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Tyler, how r u Gary Unger? YF, my Leafs should have got their stuff together a long time ago.

  193. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Ghost, Nova has been given innumerable chances to establish himself as a starter over the last few years with no improvement in consistency.

    He does have good stuff but must establish one pitch he can deliver consistently for a strike or borderline strike making his secondary pitches more effective.

    IMO they should eliminate his curve until he does so and utilize his slider and change with a better located fastball.

  194. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    K. Looking good.

  195. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Good inning for Ivan.

  196. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    jmills-

    First Leafs playoff game in HD… really is crazy that it took that long for one of the richest teams in the league to make it back.

  197. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Why should Gardner sit?
    —————–

    Maybe it’s just me but I don’t understand why everyone is so in love with Gardner. His defense is good but he doesn’t know how to use his tools. I am not saying to sit him but when Granderson comes back someone has to sit. Ichiro definitely has to earn his playing time but the Yanks will probably play him because of his contract.

  198. jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Wilbur Wood?

  199. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Got to keep the curve. Big pitch for Nova. If you want him to work on fastball command and take away a breaking ball, you can only do that in the minors, not in MLB. He’s learning on the fly in the majors against tough lineups so some credit to him there.

    Stewie!

  200. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    When Granderson is set to return the Yankees will leak that they’re open to trading a “CF” – could be Gardner or Granderson depending on offers of course and how well those offers meet Yankees expectations for value and need.

  201. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    4 NYY – you’ve got me. I love, Mattingly as well as Tony Perez, but upon this question, I fail.

  202. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Stewart has this expression on his face like he’s sad because that might be the last hit he ever gets.

  203. MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Ichiro has always looked awful at the plate when he made outs.

    He’s scuffling now but has earned the right to play regularly until they are sure he isn’t going to regain his stroke and go on a 15-30 tear or something like that…

  204. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    nunez and Nix has really been really struggling. Nunez’s swing is too big right now, I don’t if the wrist hurt his mechanics at all. Nix is much of hitter to begin with. I was looking Mike Avilas of Cleveland, he be a perfect piece on this team.

  205. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Stewie better be careful. If he keeps hitting like his, Joe G may want to bring in a more defensive-minded catcher.

  206. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Ladies and gents, what you are also witnessing is the difficulty in any sport when a mgr./coach has too many veterans who at one time have been very productive since it’s the vet’s ego/rep vs a mgr./coach’s what he sees!

    Rarely will this type of player view his performance objectively and when you’re managing the Yankees who are expected to always be in the hunt the problem is compounded.

  207. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Tyler, I concur.

  208. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Ichiro hasn’t earned the right to anything based on his last two years. A few weeks doesn’t trump that. And his play prior to his decline wasn’t on the Yankees. So they owe him nothing but that stupid contract they gave him.

  209. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    MG, yours is the anticipated response to the post I just made!

  210. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    There is nothing for Nova in Triple A. He needs to figure out his issues on the ML level. He needs to learn how to locate his fastball consistently. The fact that he has done so in the past suggests that he will get it eventually.

  211. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    I would prefer Adams and Musty to get a shot over Ben as of now. Nix is needed because he is only backup SS option. Avilas would be a good backup on any team because his versatility. Cleveland should be out of the hunt in a month or so.

  212. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    First and second, one out.

  213. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    AAA is the right place to perfect one’s mechanics.

  214. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Ladies and gents, what you are also witnessing is the difficulty in any sport when a mgr./coach has too many veterans who at one time have been very productive since it’s the vet’s ego/rep vs a mgr./coach’s what he sees!

    Rarely will this type of player view his performance objectively and when you’re managing the Yankees who are expected to always be in the hunt the problem is compounded.
    ———–

    How do you know that there is an ego problem in the Yankee clubhouse?

  215. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    “I would prefer Adams and Musty to get a shot over Ben as of now.”

    Only one is currently an option.

  216. comnsnse April 21st, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Rich, your post is the reality of what the mgr. is confronted with.

    This is a well known truism in every sport where similar situations exist.

  217. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Eff sabermetrics

  218. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    I maintain, the Yankees will field offers for both Granderson and Gardner. If it turns out the top offer out there is one for Gardner, the Yankees still have Ichiro for CF in 2014, with Austin ready to platoon RF with Boesch along with Heathcott and Flores in AAA

  219. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Good AB. Time to cash in.

  220. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Nice base rap by Wells!

  221. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Josh, get on with it!

  222. MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I don’t know why so many of you choose to ignore the way baseball teams have been run for a hundred years and want your own set of values from the manager.

    Ichiro will be a Hall of Famer.

    The Yankees signed him for 2 years based on his strong finish last year.

    They expected that to carry over to this year, so far it hasn’t.

    Until they are sure that it won’t they will continue to play him. Boesch has already replaced him a couple of time.

    Until Granderson is ready to come back there isn’t a decision to be made anyway.

  223. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    not much of a problem, Joe G will rotate all 4 til one of them gets hurt or one gets mired in a long slump. just play the hot hand. Having Granderson back is a plus not a detriment. look at this woeful bench!

  224. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    “Rich, your post is the reality of what the mgr. is confronted with.”

    These are organizational decisions, imo, but they put themselves in an untenable position by even signing Ichiro for two years, and according to Sherman, who is the most clued-in Yankee beat writer, Levine probably trumped Cashman in that dumb move.

    Anyway, teams that stunt the growth of younger players almost always pay the price.

  225. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 2:29 pm
    Wilbur Wood?

    =================

    Good guess, he pitched a ton of inns. But it was Phil Niekro.

  226. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    At least, lawrie didn’t eff it up.

  227. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    It’s up to Overbay…

  228. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Ugh

  229. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    I know rich, Adams when they deem he is ready or when they can no longer stomach Ben’s bat.

  230. 4 NYY April 21st, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    Eff sabermetrics

    ===========

    Absolutlely !

  231. MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Hafner has a good pitch to hit, just missed it…

  232. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I don’t know why so many of you choose to ignore the way baseball teams have been run for a hundred years and want your own set of values from the manager.

    Ichiro will be a Hall of Famer.

    The Yankees signed him for 2 years based on his strong finish last year.

    They expected that to carry over to this year, so far it hasn’t.

    Until they are sure that it won’t they will continue to play him. Boesch has already replaced him a couple of time.

    Until Granderson is ready to come back there isn’t a decision to be made anyway.
    ——–

    We’ve got folks on this forum kvetching about 2014…

  233. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Hafner had a golden opportunity 1 out bases loaded.

  234. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    “I know rich, Adams when they deem he is ready or when they can no longer stomach Ben’s bat.”

    I know you know, Cash. I just get a little laugh out of the almost Talismanic quality that Musty has for some based on so little.

    Not that I don’t want him up, but he will be 29 and it’s hardly certain that he is better than Adams.

  235. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    Luis they’re not gonna put Gardner in RF or take Wells out of LF or Granderson out of CF. The only way Gardner avoids the bench is if Granderson gets traded which I am a proponent of btw

    =============================

    They can always put Wells on RF, I think he can play there… But i agree Granderson should have been traded a while back

  236. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Wilbur Wood, along with Joe and Phil Niekro. Dave Stieb rules!

  237. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    “We’ve got folks on this forum kvetching about 2014…”

    You do realize that every move they made, by their own admission, this past year was with 2014 in mind, right? T

  238. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Nice AB from Overbay, regardless of how it turns out…

  239. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Nice AB, Lyle.

  240. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Overbay!!!!!

  241. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Yay, walk.

  242. RadioKev April 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    That’s a great at bay by Overbay.

  243. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Good at bat Lyle!!

  244. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Good eye

  245. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Josh, not a good pitch. Pete Walker, keep them together.

  246. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Just a great at bat from Overbay. During his last at bat, he swung at that diving curve ball on consecutive pitches. Overbay took the pitches this at bat. Just a great job.

  247. MG April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    that was a really good AB by Overbay but the pitch selection, as Leiter said, was ridiculous…

  248. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Take two.

  249. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    “We’ve got folks on this forum kvetching about 2014…”

    You do realize that every move they made, by their own admission, this past year was with 2014 in mind, right? T
    ————-

    Quod erat demonstrandum :lol:

  250. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Ok, Josh, you’re no Dave Stieb.

  251. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Josh loses the strike zone. Yankees lead.

  252. RadioKev April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Wow

  253. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    compact swing Nunie, take it to right. JJ is reticient in throwing his fb in the zone, he is a shadow of himself as of now, 3 years he was one of the best if not the best.

  254. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    OMG… Johnson lost the plate… Nunez showing patience as well

  255. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Wow, is JJ is giving us some nice gifts. Is this some Canadian holiday???

  256. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Let’s see what Nova does with his lead.

  257. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    come on Ichiro, take a *(*(*(*(*( strike, wtf.

  258. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    “Quod erat demonstrandum ”

    It’s a fact already in evidence.

  259. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    And of course, Ichiro swings at the first pitch SMH

  260. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Get on with it Jays! How does 7 and 12 sound?!!!!

  261. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Ichi, just walked two. You need to make him beat you…

  262. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Boy Ichiro’s got that slow roller to 2nd down pat. If baseball kept score by the amount of times a batter bounced out to the 2nd baseman Ichiro would be leading the league.

  263. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    “And of course, Ichiro swings at the first pitch SMH”

    If they want to give him until mid-May, fine. But it has been two years of suckitude.

  264. CoreyMac April 21st, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Johnson loses all control and you swing at first pitch….pure genius.

  265. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Rich,

    You wrote a couple of good posts… Kudos

  266. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    that’s just not baseball freaking smart… I know the dude has 3000 hits, take a strike there,Ichi.

  267. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    I’m going back to 1985.

  268. NYY_Girl_Penny April 21st, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Nothing better than watching a hitter swing at first pitch and ground out after a pitch threw 7 balls in a row. SMH

  269. pkyankfan69 April 21st, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    All of a sudden Nuney looks good in the field but can’t hit… Baseball is a funny game.

  270. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Ichi, just walked two. You need to make him beat you…
    =-==

    He’s pressing. Hey! Nova finally retired the leadoff man!

  271. yankfan1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Hope Boesch starts getting more playing time

  272. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    When Ichiro was in his prime did he still bounce out to the 2nd baseman 99% of the time but he was just fast enough to beat the throw? What in the hell did he do that made him such a great hitter until the last 2 years?

  273. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    With six in a row on turf i wonder if cano, wells and gardner will get a half day off the next three games…

  274. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Good breaking balls there

  275. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    luis

    Thanks. DTV back on?

  276. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    I know if Big Stein was still alive Ichiro would be DFA’d by now.

  277. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Damn!! That was a very good pitch to finish bautista

  278. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Stewie!

  279. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Yay, out. But Melky is the OF that should have gotten a two year deal from the Yankees.

  280. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Why does Toronto have that God awful turf to begin with? Why would anyone want to play 81 games a year on that?

  281. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    I know if Big Stein was still alive Ichiro would be DFA’d by now.
    ===

    The problem is that you seem to know a lot that isn’t so.

  282. tomingeorgia April 21st, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Nice, Stewie!

  283. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Honestly, I’m up for hire.

  284. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    So far cervelli and stewie are making the decision against martin look like a good one…

  285. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    Yay, out. But Melky is the OF that should have gotten a two year deal from the Yankees.
    —————————————————————————-

    That had zero chance of happening.

  286. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    togh play for Overbay

  287. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Tyler

    Of course, but it was still the right move.

  288. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Tom, my sweater is fine, thanks.

  289. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Rich,

    Yup… In tropical countries, the rain comes in and out very quickly ( 30 Min mostly ) but very heavy.

    I got MLB TV, but the internet service since the election is not working very well… So it is too heavy for my IS right now.

    Overbay should have caught that, don’t give up extra outs

  290. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    So far overbay has made the tex loss irrelevant

  291. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Good shutdown inning for Nova.

  292. jmills April 21st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Goodbye, Edwin.

  293. GregD April 21st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    the difference in Umpires from one day to the next is huge

  294. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Atta boy, Vato!

  295. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    luis

    It’s a little like that here in the summer (July/Aug).

    Good recovery by Nova.

  296. GregD April 21st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    the strikezone is tight today….if Nova has that umpire yesterday…he’s probably pitching a shutout

  297. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    Yay, out. But Melky is the OF that should have gotten a two year deal from the Yankees.

    =============================================

    this…. Switch hitter, Better situational hitter and more importantly YOUNGER

  298. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    I do have to ask an earnest question, why the *()( is Ben Francisco still on this roster, we haven’t seen enough?

  299. GregD April 21st, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    So far cervelli and stewie are making the decision against martin look like a good one…

    ————–
    it’s not even close…..

  300. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Rich-

    Yeah I agree but I’ve just never even been caught up on it because it had no chance. Between the steroids and the Yanks seemingly not liking Melky before that, it was a moot point. I was fine with 1 year of Ichiro (could still be the wrong move) but I thought 2 was too much.

  301. luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Nova has settled down and is getting a lot of ground outs

    Nix with a hit

  302. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Big K by Nova. Encarnacion very dangerous even if he’s only hitting .200. Made him work though a 9 pitch ab. Now over 90 pitches.

  303. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    We need some more runs. Three won’t be enough.

  304. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Cash,

    The alternatives are not over thirty ;)

  305. tomingeorgia April 21st, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    jmills,
    Happy for you and your sweater. Also happy about your pitching staff.

  306. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Excellent. Now we’ve got three chances to score Nix…

  307. UpState April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Still dont want Melky back……with all his drugs (PED)…would he have drawn Cano into that crap ?

    Keep him away – forever.

  308. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Stewie does it all. A home run, pitch framing, a single, a Cervelli-like fist pump on Nova’s strikeout of Encarnacion, a sac bunt …

  309. RadioKev April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Oh that was beautiful

  310. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Francisco is here for one reason: He swings RH.

  311. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Ichiro: Stew and Nunez have given you a very comprehensive clinic on how to bunt

  312. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Do you have Gardner bunt in this spot?

  313. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Gibbons looks like a man who is going to have a few belts of whiskey tonight …

  314. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Francisco is here for one reason: He swings RH.

    —-

    So do I… I don’t belong on the roster either!

  315. MG April 21st, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Johnson doesn’t even resemble the guy who was an All Star for the Marlins a couple of times and led the NL in ERA once.

    I would never condone anything done by the Marlins or claim that they were thinking about the team before the money but maybe they didn’t make such a bad deal after all, the only guy they will really miss is Reyes…

  316. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:03 pm
    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Francisco is here for one reason: He swings RH.

    —-

    So do I… I don’t belong on the roster either!

    =================

    I bet that you are better alternative :D

  317. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    I would never condone anything done by the Marlins or claim that they were thinking about the team before the money but maybe they didn’t make such a bad deal after all, the only guy they will really miss is Reyes
    ———————————————————————–

    I thought at the time that they just went from a bad team to a horrible team. They weren’t good last year so it’s not like they traded a lot, outside of Reyes who can’t stay healthy now. They gave up big leaguers but it wasn’t like they broke up the NL East champs.

  318. timmyb9276 April 21st, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Don’t understand the bunt there by Stewart, he’s been hot today, a base hit gets the runner in from 2nd base. Do you squeeze with Gardner?

  319. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    MG April 21st, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Johnson doesn’t even resemble the guy who was an All Star for the Marlins a couple of times and led the NL in ERA once.

    I would never condone anything done by the Marlins or claim that they were thinking about the team before the money but maybe they didn’t make such a bad deal after all, the only guy they will really miss is Reyes…
    ====

    I don’t blame the Marlins for that particular purge. They brought in a bunch of guys to have a winner, and they took the club in precisely the wrong direction. This is also why I thought that folks were way too sanguine about the Jays’ offseason moves.

  320. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Small ball!

  321. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Nice at bat Gardy!!

  322. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    “So do I… I don’t belong on the roster either!”

    I’m not defending the move, obviously. But that’s how they roll at times.

  323. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    So Gardner is sitting for who?

  324. RadioKev April 21st, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Gardner’s been driving the ball pretty well

  325. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    luis April 21st, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    Nova has settled down and is getting a lot of ground outs
    ___
    Yes, I figured he would settle down. Similar to last game. Let’s keep it going.

  326. jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Small ball at its best.. Tack on… Now lets get a shutdown inning.

  327. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Good job, Gardy.

  328. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    MG, they got rid of lot dead dough in exchange for some mediocre prospects. If the idea is to re-invest, sure. Under Dombrowski, Marlins made smarter trades got better haul back. But from sheer dumping overpriced veterans standpoint, it’s not a bad deal. Marlins will do what they normally do, suck for a prolong period of time, hope the high draft picks come to fruition.

  329. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Suddenly, Nova is one shoutout inning away from a so-called “quality start”…

  330. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Ghost,

    This Jays team is going through a rough patch… They are going to play better ball… I am actually glad that we have the chance to have a series while they are down… They always play us tough

  331. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Don’t understand the bunt there by Stewart, he’s been hot today, a base hit gets the runner in from 2nd base. Do you squeeze with Gardner?”

    No pr oblem with Stewie bunting there. He is Stewie, hot streak today notwithstanding. Got them a run.

  332. tomingeorgia April 21st, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Nice shot of Andy tutoring Ivan. Go, Nova!

  333. MG April 21st, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    no one could have made me believe, after watching them pitch in 2010, that neither Ricky Romero or Brett Cecil would not be in the Jays rotation in 2013.

    You just never know about young pitchers and they had John Farrell as their manager the past two years as well…

  334. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Ghost,

    This Jays team is going through a rough patch… They are going to play better ball… I am actually glad that we have the chance to have a series while they are down… They always play us tough
    ======

    The Jays have a good club. They also had a good club last year. It was never clear to me that their offseason moves made their club demonstrably better, let alone a clear-cut favorite to win the division as some suggested.

  335. UpState April 21st, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Seems Seattle’s not too thrilled at Mr. Montero’s performance to date.

    Off to AAA to work or heal ?

    http://sodomojo.com/2013/04/20.....p-or-hurt/

  336. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    Boston down 4-2. The Royals could give the Tigers a run in the Central this year. Shields, Davis, and Santana are pitching well and the Royals have been able to hit the past couple years.

  337. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    YF,

    Watch how the FB is staying down in the zone. Until that pitch, he opened up his shoulder and the ball sailed up and away from the LHB

  338. Cashmoney April 21st, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Tyler, i am surprised by how mightily have Hosmer and Moustakas been struggling, it’s early though, that applies to their pitching and their hitters. What you do have is pitchers who have enjoy success in the past and have not past their prime physically.

  339. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    luis, tiring.

  340. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “You just never know about young pitchers ”

    It’s not only young pitchers. Look at AJ Burnett, or Beckett, or Pavano, or bunch of other up and down veterans.

  341. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    And there it is.

  342. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Damn.

  343. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Spoke too soon…. Time to bring somebody

  344. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    “luis, tiring.”

    Which is the cost of early inning high pitch counts.

  345. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    We need more from nova at this stage

  346. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    I wonder if they went to get Nova, because of the situation or the pitch count. I’m fine with the former, but I find the latter intensely annoying.

  347. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Cash-

    Hosmer wasn’t too good last year either and Moustakas has really been bad this year. That’s why it’s impressive that they are still competing. Their lineup is pretty deep though with Escobar, Butler, Gordon, and even Francouer. They had that number 1 farm system but those guys haven’t really become big time players yet. It’s interesting because the major league clock on them is ticking. The Royals have spent more money recently but can they keep all those guys? It would stink to see more players reach their peak outside of KC. Feel bad for those fans (plus I’ll be living there come August).

  348. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    “luis, tiring.”

    Which is the cost of early inning high pitch counts.

    ===========================

    Yes… But all in all this is another step on the right direction

  349. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    I actually liked that pitch….Rasmuss is crowding the inside corner of the plate

  350. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    We need more from nova at this stage
    ———

    He’s the number-5 pitcher. All things considered, he’s doing enough for the Yanks to keep running him out there.

  351. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Nice pitch. Put him away.

  352. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Crap.

  353. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    UpState April 21st, 2013 at 3:11 pm
    Seems Seattle’s not too thrilled at Mr. Montero’s performance to date.

    Off to AAA to work or heal ?

    http://sodomojo.com/2013/04/20…..p-or-hurt/

    —————————————-

    Like their other players are tearing the cover off the ball. Hard for someone to get going with you have .100 avg hitters protecting you

  354. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    And the loogy fails to get the lefty

  355. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Wait… Phelps??

  356. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    It was a good AB by Rasmus

  357. tomingeorgia April 21st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Tyler,
    KC in August! Hot and humid is the operative phrase. You probably won’t have any problems getting tickets.

  358. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Quick hook here… GJ Joe

  359. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    As Jerkface pointed out recently, most of the Mariners’ prospects/young aren’t panning out. That park sucks.

  360. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Too bad DRob isn’t available. Not that he’d bring him in.

  361. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Ghost,

    yes it was a good at bat…. But the pitch was right down on broadway

  362. Niblick April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Boonie comes through once again. Ugh.

  363. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    tom-

    I’m from St. Louis so it’s pretty similar weather, haha. Used to the humidity by now. Yeah I’m definitely going to try to make a couple Royals games and maybe a Chiefs game. I’ll probably be pretty busy with school but I’d like to make a couple. I’ve been to Kauffman several times with my dad. Really nice for an “older” stadium.

  364. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Why is adam warren wasting away as the 12th pitcher?

  365. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Girardi wasn’t happy with the walk:

    https://twitter.com/sftweeindieguy/status/326051693622075392/photo/1

  366. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Come on, Phelpsie.

  367. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    I bet Zunino doesn’t do much betteron that park

  368. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Send warren back and bring another lefty…..
    Is rapada healthy yet?

  369. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    This is a bad spot for Phelps.

  370. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Zunino’s been scuffling, but

    I knew Phelps in wasn’t a good move. SMH.

  371. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    SH…..T

  372. ansky April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    ridiculous

  373. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Sads.

  374. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Girardi wasn’t happy with the walk:

    https://twitter.com/sftweeindieguy/status/326051693622075392/photo/1

    That’s a great picture.

  375. Tyler April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    I hate Phelps in middle relief. Either send him down or make him a starter.

  376. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Still early guys

  377. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Poor Phelps. Always terrible times to showcase his talent.

    :(

  378. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    It would be nice if we could record an out.

  379. RadioKev April 21st, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    “He’s the number-5 pitcher. All things considered, he’s doing enough for the Yanks to keep running him out there.”
    ———

    Mmmm… I dunno. We have options. Maybe Wang, we still have Phelps, and then there’s Pineda at some point maybe. He’s still working for that spot.

  380. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Lawrie looked like a fool….

  381. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    “I hate Phelps in middle relief. Either send him down or make him a starter.”

    True.

  382. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    “I hate Phelps in middle relief. Either send him down or make him a starter.”

    I’m with you.

  383. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Phelps needs to forget the guy on base, and get the guy at the plate.

  384. Niblick April 21st, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    And there’s the game. But Binder’s moves make sense, because he’s saving his best relievers for when the game is totally out of reach.

    At least Boonie will get the loss.

  385. egk April 21st, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Joey will say “Boony and Phelpsie just missed on location again today.

  386. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Good job.

  387. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Ok one down… two more

  388. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    “And there’s the game.”

    They can still win.

  389. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Life isn’t ideal, but there are pitchers you’d much rather see at the beginning of an inning than sent it in the middle of an inning. David Phelps isn’t a relief pitcher, IMO. He should be starting.

  390. itsgonnabealongseason April 21st, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    “Poor Phelps. Always terrible times to showcase his talent.”

    What talent?

    None of his pitches are above average.

  391. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    RadioKev April 21st, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    “He’s the number-5 pitcher. All things considered, he’s doing enough for the Yanks to keep running him out there.”
    ———

    Mmmm… I dunno. We have options. Maybe Wang, we still have Phelps, and then there’s Pineda at some point maybe. He’s still working for that spot.
    ========

    I like Wang, but I really don’t want to see him in pinstripes this year. As for the others, they are possiblities, and Nova does need to earn his spot. However, he is the incumbent, and they shouldn’t start jerking guys around in that last spot. Phelps and Pineda will get their chances soon enough.

  392. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    One more.

  393. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    I don’t know how to feel about Nova’s start. He’s had some good stuff. But he walked 4 and gave up 7 hits in 5 ip. Bad base running by Bautista helped. Usually you don’t win these games which he almost did. And did so last year.

  394. Niblick April 21st, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    That pic of the “brain trust” is good. Of course, I think there’s one brain between the two of ‘em.

  395. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    itsgonnabealongseason April 21st, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    “Poor Phelps. Always terrible times to showcase his talent.”

    What talent?

    None of his pitches are above average.
    ===

    And yet, he seems to be an above average pitcher. Go figure.

  396. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    “What talent?

    None of his pitches are above average.”

    :roll:

  397. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    It’s tough watching Melky in another uniform.

  398. itsgonnabealongseason April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    “And yet, he seems to be an above average pitcher. Go figure.”

    He’s above average?

    Phelpsie?

  399. JobaTipsHisCap April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Pen chokes. Melky strikes.

  400. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Uh lawrie… Calm down you are batting 150 and its the 6th inning…

  401. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Tough inning.

  402. Niblick April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Phelpsie is not ready for prime time. How many stinkers does he have to throw before the Binder catches on?

  403. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Phelps has to pitch every fifth day and work on his craft. This role is counterproductive for him and the team.

  404. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Niblick.. Phelps is a starter. This pen crap is not where he or warren belong.

  405. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    itsgonnabealongseason April 21st, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    “And yet, he seems to be an above average pitcher. Go figure.”

    He’s above average?

    Phelpsie?
    ————-

    His results certainly seem to be. Career ERA+ of 116.

  406. jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Phelps sucks!!! He is nothing more than an arm.. An innings eater… His stuff is average at best. He has one good outing and then spits the bit the next three…

  407. JobaTipsHisCap April 21st, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Wells is awesome

  408. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Vern keeps on hitting

  409. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I don’t know how long Wells will hit well, but ride him for now.

  410. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Yanks relinquish the lead, and out come the boobirds. Typical.

  411. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Here we go.

  412. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I can see wanger in pinstripes… Phelps and warren would need innings. Wang may be the next option from aaa if it comes to it…

  413. tomingeorgia April 21st, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    OK, Vernon!

  414. jacksquat April 21st, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Keep bringing in relievers according to the inning instead of the situation Joe, you look brilliant.

  415. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    “Phelps sucks!!! ”

    Provably false:

    123 ERA+ last season in 99.2 IP.

    2.51 ERA in the mL.

  416. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Found this blast from the past:

    trisha – I am a Sidney supporter and also believe Arod will start to hit. August 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    who is your “oh no” opponent?

    I have always had one player from an opposing team who scares me more than other players. For years it was Jim Thome. No matter what team he was on, whenever he came to bat, I held my breath.

    My current “oh no” player is Vernon Wells (and has been for a few years). I have no idea how he is doing this year, but there is something about him that scares the life out of me whenever he’s up at bat. I also hate the way he fields! I think he is just a great player.

    ____________________

    So glad he’s ours!

    :)

  417. JobaTipsHisCap April 21st, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    RBI here

  418. JobaTipsHisCap April 21st, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    That’s called helpless

  419. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:37 pm

    The previous pitch ( IT was a ball ) set up the k

  420. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    LHP are tough on Hafner.

  421. Niblick April 21st, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    Binder Joe after the game: it was only the sixth inning. I couldn’t use my 7th or 8th inning guys. The binder won’t let me.

  422. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I can see wanger in pinstripes…

    ===

    It would be a waste of precious innings that could be given to one of the youngsters. Wang in starting in pinstripes would be a very bad harbinger of the future, or it would mean that the Yanks suffered catastrophic losses among their big three. And this is nothing against Wang.

  423. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    That was the pitch of the at bat

  424. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    They desperately need RHH Tex, or some good RH bat.

  425. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Can’t hit LHP.

  426. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    That Ichiro first pitch ground out with the bases loaded after JJ walked consecutive batters looms large now …

  427. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Youk would have pinch hit if he could

  428. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    They seriously have nothing to lose by looking at Adams now.

  429. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Phelps sucks!!! He is nothing more than an arm.. An innings eater… His stuff is average at best. He has one good outing and then spits the bit the next three…
    ===

    If Phelps sucks, then I would expect Major League hitters to have more success off him than they do.

  430. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    That Ichiro first pitch ground out with the bases loaded after JJ walked consecutive batters looms large now …

    ==========================

    Yes…

  431. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    That Ichiro first pitch ground out with the bases loaded after JJ walked consecutive batters looms large now …

    ==========================

    Yes…
    _

    At this point, it’s a killer, and a really bad AB.

  432. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Fire. John. Sterling.

    And I am a jerk for even getting any hope from any of his ridiculous calls.

  433. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Tough inning, but this game isn’t over yet.

  434. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Looking like 2012 risp day

  435. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    What exactly is Warren’s role on the team?

    I think at this point Phelps is being hurt. If there’s no room for him in the rotation at this point in time, send him down where he can start. Or release him so maybe he can start for another team.

  436. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    That Ichiro first pitch ground out with the bases loaded after JJ walked consecutive batters looms large now …

    ==========================

    Yes…
    _

    At this point, it’s a killer, and a really bad AB.

    ==============================

    You mentioned May as a deadline… I have seen enough… That particular at bat tells you all you need to know… He has zero situational skills

  437. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    That Ichiro first pitch ground out with the bases loaded after JJ walked consecutive batters looms large now …

    ==========================

    Yes…
    _

    At this point, it’s a killer, and a really bad AB.
    ————

    But as they pointed out the only good pitch he would see in the at bat. Jeter would have done the same thing

  438. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    What’s the hurry with starting Phelps? He’ll get his chance soon enough. It’s a long season. And releasing him now is a terrible idea. Good grief.

  439. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    “But as they pointed out the only good pitch he would see in the at bat. Jeter would have done the same thing”

    That’s a supposition, and he could always walk.

  440. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    They seriously have nothing to lose by looking at Adams now.
    ///

    Too “risky”. Can’t risk getting younger and better.

  441. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    “What’s the hurry with starting Phelps?”

    There is no rush to do anything but keep him stretched out and developing all his pitches. It’s hard to do that in his present role.

  442. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Note to Girardi: Phelps is not a relief pitcher. I repeat he is not a relief pitcher. If he isn’t going to start on this team he should be in AAA. Girardi keeps using him in these spots and he has shown that he can’t handle it.

  443. Jerkface April 21st, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Phelps should be in AAA starting, not sitting in the bullpen.

  444. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Adams is killing RHP.

  445. Benny Blanco April 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    What is the deal with phelps?

  446. ansky April 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Rangers game looks a lot more enticing now.

  447. jackamir April 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    I repeat ” Phelps sucks”.

  448. sunny615 April 21st, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    boooooooo

  449. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    I repeat ” Phelps sucks”.
    _

    Keep repeating it. It’s still provably false.

  450. egk April 21st, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    With his recent relief performances, Phelps may have earned a place in the rotation. For Scranton. He should be starting anyway.

  451. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Yankeefem – right, not like the guy is a platoon player, he can hit both.

  452. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    “What’s the hurry with starting Phelps? He’ll get his chance soon enough.”

    I hope you’re right. But in the meantime, he’s not getting the experience he needs. Is he going to be stretched out enough to start? Will he be effective as a starter if he’s relegated to mop up?

    I just feel bad for the kid. I’d rather have him in AAA starting so that when his turn does come around, he’s ready.

  453. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Ghost,

    This will be his third season in a row without 160 IP… You can’t put him in the rotation and don’t expect a high injury risk or some sort of innings limit… They have Warren for LR… Either send him down to start or give him a spot in the rotation

  454. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Phelps is the manager’s pet. How many games does he have to blow for Girardi to realized that he can’t pitch in these spots? They should bring up Montgomery.

  455. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Note to Girardi: Phelps is not a relief pitcher. I repeat he is not a relief pitcher. If he isn’t going to start on this team he should be in AAA. Girardi keeps using him in these spots and he has shown that he can’t handle it.
    ——-

    Phelps started the inning with nobody on. It’s Girardi’s fault that Phelps gave up a 2-run homer? Please.

  456. Jesus Bustero April 21st, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    “And to me, it is the same situation for Montero. Obviously he isn’t a “prospect” anymore, but he is still only 23 years old, and was once a very highly regarded player. He has not come close to reaching those expectations yet, and has thus seen his playing time dwindle. After last year, most people wrote off his struggles a little bit because he was so young. But now, just a year older, people are already starting to throw in the towel on his future….

    Plus, it looks to me that Jesus just needs to be completely retooled at the plate, and could benefit from a fresh start. And AAA is the place to do that. I just don’t see how people can improve without playing everyday, or almost every day, and getting their in-game reps. Sure, sometimes guys need a night or two off to get their mind right during a slump. But to me, this isn’t just an ordinary slump. He just looks lost at times, and needs to reset, play every day, and fix whatever it is that is holding him back.”

    _________

    Wow, Bustero

  457. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Phelps is a starter. This is why there’s not patience with young ones around here and in the Bronx. The lowest common denominator fan rules the day because management panders to him/her.

    Crying out loud, guy is not a long reliever.

  458. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    “But as they pointed out the only good pitch he would see in the at bat. Jeter would have done the same thing”

    That’s a supposition, and he could always walk.
    ————–

    Everyone here would be killing him for not swinging at that first pitch if he ended up striking out on 3 pitches.

  459. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    “Phelps started the inning with nobody on. It’s Girardi’s fault that Phelps gave up a 2-run homer? Please.”

    4/1 1.1 IP
    4/6 2.2
    4/13 4.0
    4/18 2.0

    Do you really think a career mL starter will be at his best in this role?

  460. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    “Phelps started the inning with nobody on. It’s Girardi’s fault that Phelps gave up a 2-run homer? Please.”

    And he came in the inning before with runners on base. He never got his footing. He’s not an emergency relief pitcher. He’s being misused, IMO.

  461. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Because no DRob availability, they should have put in Joba in hopes of getting K’s when the game was on the line.

  462. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    “Everyone here would be killing him for not swinging at that first pitch if he ended up striking out on 3 pitches.”

    I would NEVER kill anyone for taking pitches. The pitchers had no command. I really don’t know where you are getting this.

  463. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Ichiro really needs to sit for a couple of days. He is killing them and he shouldn’t be playing over Boesch. He looks absolutely dreadful.

  464. tucker April 21st, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Rich in NJ says:
    April 21, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    Fire. John. Sterling.

    And I am a jerk for even getting any hope from any of his ridiculous calls.

    Xxxxxxxxxxx

    I usually tune into the opposing team’s radio cast unless it is somebody like Hawk Harrelson.

    Sterling is just too inaccurate. The guy just has too many calls that are flat out wrong that he has to correct. Not to mention the relentless stream of ads that he incorporates into the plays on the field.

  465. luis April 21st, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    Because no DRob availability, they should have put in Joba in hopes of getting K’s when the game was on the line.

    ===========================

    He is our current 7th inning RP…. Or our ROOGY SMH

  466. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Phelps pitched well as reliever last year. I think teams have more of a book on him now.

  467. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Regardless, Phelps should still be able to pitch with a fresh inning. He’s done fine in relief in the past. He just had a bad day/week.

  468. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Do they lose Sapporo sponsorship dough if they sit Ichiro too much?

  469. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    Phelps started the inning with nobody on. It’s Girardi’s fault that Phelps gave up a 2-run homer? Please.
    ——————-

    It’s a totally different mindset when you come into a close game in the 7th inning. Phelps isn’t used to it and it’s not fair for them to put him into those spots. he has looking like batting practice in those spots.

  470. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Why not go to Joba there..? Was he rested?

  471. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    “Regardless, Phelps should still be able to pitch with a fresh inning. He’s done fine in relief in the past. He just had a bad day/week.”

    The issue isn’t what should be in an ideal world, it’s how do they maximize the chances of him being good. That’s through doing what he has always done, start every 5th day.

  472. Jerkface April 21st, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    @mikeaxisa 53s

    Adam Warren has thrown two innings and 26 pitches in the last 18 days. Seems like a waste of a roster spot.

    This is why I don’t like potentially useful pieces as long man on the Yankees, outside of the early season ‘finding your legs’, they rarely get work. It killed Noesi and didn’t help Phelps.

    Now for Warren I don’t mind him being in the pen because he had way more to work on than phelps or nova and could have used the confidence boost, but he has to be the one getting consistent work. And with phelps in the pen Warren is literally the last last guy that is going to get the ball. Girardi won’t use him for fear of needing him the next day when that is an unrealistic and untenable way to have him on the roster.

    Its bad pitcher development.

  473. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    “Why not go to Joba there..? Was he rested?”

    Unless there is some unknown issue, it looks like he could have pitched:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....hamberlain

  474. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    They are wasting a roster spot with Warren. Either bring up Montgomery or Adams. it doesn’t make any sense to have him rotting in the bullpen.

  475. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Shame, he was rested, since Girardi yanked him for lovetoy Logan.

  476. MG April 21st, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    I don’t think bringing Phelps in with runners on the corners and a 1 run lead is a good spot for hm but, at the same time, I don’t think he’s a given success as a starter in the majors as well.

    I’ve seen him pitch in person 2X (1X last year against the Rays in the regular season once in spring training this year) as well as numerous times on TV and think he is serviceable but isn’t going to be a ‘keeper’ in the rotation for the Yankees, they can do better.

    That doesn’t mean he couldn’t fill a role for them this year or next if he is the best option, I just see him earning a long term role in the rotation.

  477. MG April 21st, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    ‘I just don’t see him earning a long term role in the rotation.’

  478. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    It’s a totally different mindset when you come into a close game in the 7th inning. Phelps isn’t used to it and it’s not fair for them to put him into those spots. he has looking like batting practice in those spots.

    —–

    They’ve been using him as a reliever for about a year now. He should be used to it by now. Bringing him into the game with runners on base is arguabably a bad idea. However, he should be able to handle coming in with a clean slated.

    He’s a big boy, and he’ll work his way through it.

  479. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    ” I don’t think he’s a given success as a starter in the majors as well.”

    But he has:

    11 starts:
    .233 .322 .390 .713

    ERA: 3.77

  480. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    This is why I don’t like potentially useful pieces as long man on the Yankees, outside of the early season ‘finding your legs’, they rarely get work. It killed Noesi and didn’t help Phelps.
    ///

    Not a long guy but I recall with some bitterness how Melancon didn’t pitch for 17 days and then when he sucked it became the self-fulfilling prophecy and I do believe we never saw him again – maybe once or twice in garbage time, but that was it.

  481. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Lawrie is going to take a fastball to the head if he doesnt tone it down

  482. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Does anybody see Warren as a high-end starter?

  483. MG April 21st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:04 pm
    ” I don’t think he’s a given success as a starter in the majors as well.”

    But he has:

    11 starts:
    .233 .322 .390 .713

    ERA: 3.77
    ————–
    and one the starts included in those stats was 4+ innings against the Rays in St Pete where he walked either 6 or 7 guys in 4+ but only allowed 1 unearned run.

    Numbers are far from everything in evaluating players, Rich, that’s why we never agree on a single thing about baseball.

  484. Nick in SF April 21st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    It was the 6th inning. Girardi was probably saving Joba to set up Mo in the 8th.

    Bringing Joba into that spot would have shown some creativity — advisable or not — but I wonder how many managers would’ve done it.

  485. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Right now, their biggest weakness is having no answer if a manager brings in a LHP to face Hafner or Overbay.

  486. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    I wonder if they’re stretching Phleps out

  487. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    The point isnt whether warren will be high end but the spot his presence is taking up

  488. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Keeping both Warren and Phelps in essentially the same role is pointless.

  489. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Lawrie is going to take a fastball to the head if he doesnt tone it down
    ————–

    Agree. He is a good young player but he acts like he is the greatest thing on this earth. Other teams are not going to put up with that and it will get him hurt.

  490. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    If memory serves me, Phelps started more games than relieved the last few months of last season. In addition, his ST was spent starting, not in relief.

  491. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Phelps

  492. luis April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Nick,

    Not many if anyone, granted

  493. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Those are the kinds of pitches a younger Melky twisted up like a pretzel on. He lays off them now, thus his ballooning OBP the last couple years.

  494. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    No homerun for milkshakes

  495. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    and one the starts included in those stats was 4+ innings against the Rays in St Pete where he walked either 6 or 7 guys in 4+ but only allowed 1 unearned run.

    Numbers are far from everything in evaluating players, Rich, that’s why we never agree on a single thing about baseball.
    _

    You’re right that the sample size is small. It’s true of 11 starts and it’s even more true of the 1 start you cited.

    But you are wrong that he hasn’t had ML success as a starter.

    I never said that number are everything, however, they aren’t nothing, and we can also look at his 2.51 mL ERA.

    Let’s leave numbers aside. Tell me how his marginal stuff makes him more likely to succeed as a reliever.

  496. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Keeping both Warren and Phelps in essentially the same role is pointless.
    =========

    If Phelps is being used as a middle reliever, then he isn’t in the same role as Warren.

  497. luis April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Last chance

  498. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Bringing Joba into that spot would have shown some creativity
    ///

    Good point, therefore, out of the question.

  499. igotid88 April 21st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    Well if they wanted to start Phelps the next turn he will be able to go 75-80

  500. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    and one the starts included in those stats was 4+ innings against the Rays in St Pete where he walked either 6 or 7 guys in 4+ but only allowed 1 unearned run.

    ————–

    Doesn’t this belong in the pro-Phelps column?

  501. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Warren, a potential high end starter? No. Nor is Phelps, but like Phelps better than Warren right now. Nova is more talented than both if he can just command his fb. Still would rather see Nova starting than either.

  502. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Keeping both Warren and Phelps in essentially the same role is pointless.
    =========

    If Phelps is being used as a middle reliever, then he isn’t in the same role as Warren.

    ————–

    Oh yeah, Warren has no role, how could I forget. :lol:

  503. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Does anybody see Warren as a high-end starter?
    ///

    No.

  504. bruceb April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Wow…didn’t take long for Phelps to fall out of favor on here. Never expected the Yanks to sweep today with Nova on the mound. Very happy with 2 out of 3 ty.

  505. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Agree on all three counts, fem.

  506. Captain Clutch April 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    This lineup against Moore and Price is going to be scary.

  507. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Facing two lefties in Moore and Price in our next two games. I can’t wait to see our lineups.

  508. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    CC, thinking the same as per my above post.

  509. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Bringing Joba into that spot would have shown some creativity
    ///

    Good point, therefore, out of the question.
    ==========

    I think his point was that in this day and age, very few, if any, managers would have brought Chamberlain into the game in that spot. Moreover, if Girardi had done so, and wound up short later in the game as a result, people would have torched him for it.

  510. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    …..I really wanna buy Price.

  511. bruceb April 21st, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Mind you…I wouldn’t mind betting Johnson gets shellacked on his next start. Doesn’t look the pitcher he once was.

  512. ac1 April 21st, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    I think they need to get boesch in rf vs lefties against tampa

  513. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Has Phelps fallen out of favor? Think the same people are saying the same things, aren’t they? Ditto, the Hughes and Nova dissenters. Same old same old: what have you done for me lately.

  514. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Does anybody see Warren as a high-end starter?
    ///

    No.
    =

    So then why the concern about having him waste away?

  515. NYY fan in NH April 21st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    So Nova and Phelps aren’t cutting it in the rotation. Let’s go through the scrap heap again

  516. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Ghost, a manager can’t worry about being “torched,” but no managers don’t think about the point when the game is on the line if it is too early; got to keep those 7,8,9 in their respective innings or the world might explode.

  517. Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    So then why the concern about having him waste away?

    ————-

    Because he could be a valuable reliever… should he ever get the opportunity to grow into the role. We seem short in the pen.

  518. MG April 21st, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:10 pm
    Let’s leave numbers aside. Tell me how his marginal stuff makes him more likely to succeed as a reliever.
    ———————-
    where did I ever say I wanted Phelps as a reliever? That’s a terrible place for him.

    I see him as a guy who gives you 5-6 innings, 2-4 runs allowed, essentially a fill in guy for a winning team or maybe a rotation guy for an average or below average team, maybe the equivalent of Jeff Karstens.

    In my opinion, he isn’t nearly the pitcher as Ian Kennedy-if Kennedy wasn’t good enough for the Yankees or the ‘AL East’, then Phelps isn’t either. (I don’t agree with this AL East nonsense either, pitching in the majors is pitching in the majors).

    I’m not anti-Phelps, I just don’t see a star in the making as many others on LoHud believe.

  519. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Phelps is a pitchability guy. At his best, he has plus command, and sets hitters up from AB to AB. That enables his stuff to play up better than it actually is. But it requires regular starts.

  520. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    but, no, managers don’t think (or I should have said that they don’t react outside of their usual pattern) when the game is on the line. They should, but they don’t transgress. It is rote baseball.

  521. MG April 21st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Shame Spencer April 21st, 2013 at 4:11 pm
    and one the starts included in those stats was 4+ innings against the Rays in St Pete where he walked either 6 or 7 guys in 4+ but only allowed 1 unearned run.

    ————–

    Doesn’t this belong in the pro-Phelps column?
    —————
    no, I was at the game sitting behind home plate and he wasn’t very good but kept getting out of it.

    I reviewed the stats for the game, he walked 3 and hit 2 in the 4+ innings.

  522. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Damn Ivan had some gorgeous 96s on the outside part of the plate today… He got his bacon saved once by Wells, but every pitcher is the beneficiary of a great play now and again… just got the ball up and got into a high PC…

  523. Jerkface April 21st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    I’m not anti-Phelps, I just don’t see a star in the making as many others on LoHud believe.

    I don’t think anyone sees him as a star. Who does?

  524. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Here’s how I feel about players’ careers. Don’t screw with them. If you’re not going to use a guy the way he should be used, send him down or release him. They have Phelps up, down, and all around. It should be obvious to anyone who can see that he is not an effective relief pitcher, and he’s certainly not a short reliever. And he’s not getting in the innings he needs to be otherwise.

  525. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    People on this forum spend so much time quibbling over marginal players…

  526. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Rich, I like Phelps, but agree, and when he is not locating stuff isn’t nasty enough to get away with. That is why Nova is starting and Phelps is not. For all his mistakes (fb up and command issues), Nova has better stuff, and can get away with lack of location more.

  527. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    MG

    IPK is a very, very good pitcher with really good stuff at this point in his career.

    He was in the low 80s when Oppenheimer drafted him, and the upper 80s in the mL.

    He now can touch the mid-90s

    The Yankees never gave him a chance to develop, or didn’t know how to do it, which is pretty much their MO with young starters.

  528. luis April 21st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Does anybody see Warren as a high-end starter?
    ///

    No.
    =

    So then why the concern about having him waste away?

    ===============================

    Because the long man job should be reserved for players with no upside ( Garcia should have been in that role last season for example )…. Phelps and Warren have upside, either in the back of our rotation or as trade pieces…. If it is the latter, an Sp has much more value than a RP… Especially this kind of pitchers that if thrown in to a relief role is as either long man or middle inning RP… This a bad use of resources at hand… Why I am not susprised?

  529. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Does anyone see Phelps as a star? I don’t think so.

  530. Rich in NJ April 21st, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    yf

    Nova obviously has better stuff. But he can’t wear out the pen in every start.

  531. J. Alfred Prufrock April 21st, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Ghost,

    I’m concerned more with Phelps than Warren. They can stick latter into a longman role if they want.

    And on Joba thing:my point is that Girardi especially would never toss the book.

  532. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Tough loss. Good series win. Onto to Tampa!

  533. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Fact is we need to hit LHP.

  534. yankeefeminista April 21st, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Rich, agree. He needs to be more efficient early. Lots of young pitcher run up pitch count in that first inning. But they evolve or they can’t remain starters. Still on a learning curve right now.

  535. Ghostwriter April 21st, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Because the long man job should be reserved for players with no upside ( Garcia should have been in that role last season for example )…. Phelps and Warren have upside, either in the back of our rotation or as trade pieces…. If it is the latter, an Sp has much more value than a RP… Especially this kind of pitchers that if thrown in to a relief role is as either long man or middle inning RP… This a bad use of resources at hand… Why I am not susprised?

    ——

    It’s not at all clear to me that Warren has that much upside if nobody sees him as a starter in the Majors. And I can’t imagine that anybody will value Warren much more than the Yanks, and they aren’t going to be fooled by how the guy is used.

  536. MG April 21st, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    Every young pitcher struggles at some point in their development.

    Andy struggled his 2nd year after being ROY.

    David Price is even taking heat from all 3 Rays fans for his slow start this year-one idiot afternoon sports talk guy even suggested skipping him for Alex Cobb to keep Cobb in rotation without an extra day off.

    Teams decide, based on their internal evaluations, which pitchers are going to be in rotation and get to work through their issues. Hughes has been given that latitude and Nova is going through it now.

    If the Yankees decided that Phelps was a guy they wanted in the rotation long term they would give him that opportunity as well. So far they haven’t done that-I would guess that if Pineda gets all the way back he will be given it at some point in time, maybe next year.

    It’s an inexact science/art, no one is ever 100% (or even 75%) right.

  537. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 21st, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    “If the Yankees decided that Phelps was a guy they wanted in the rotation long term they would give him that opportunity as well.”

    How so? It would mean sitting out Hughes or Nova. They both have seniority on Phelps and will continue to be given their opportunities, as they should be. Even if they wanted Phelps in the rotation, at this point there doesn’t seem to be too much room for him. That’s why he should be in AAA.

  538. mick April 21st, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    So did Girardi throw in the towel? Francisco was looking perplexed in the dugout with Hafner up and Oliver on the mound. Like what am I , chopped liver?
    And if you’re gonna bunt lay it down with conviction, please…

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