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Postgame notes: “He made it work”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 27, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It was a little thing, and it was an obvious thing, but I thought this was the most interesting thing Joe Girardi said after today’s comeback win against the Blue Jays.

“I just thought today was a good day to do it, and he made it work.”

He was talking, of course, about the decision to start Travis Hafner against a lefty. The Yankees hadn’t done that all year, but Hafner delivered a game-tying home run and a game-winning triple, his first extra-base hits against lefties this season. CC Sabathia gave the Yankees the distance they needed, and Vernon Wells had another bit hit in the seventh, but there was no one quite so crucial to this win as Hafner. Which means there was no one quite so crucial as Girardi.

He didn’t start Hafner because the binder said so. He started Hafner because he had to try something new and decided to give this shot.

“Ben (Francisco)’s kind of struggled so I thought it was time to give Haf a shot at it today,” Girardi said. “I won’t do it every time because I think for him — who’s had some injury problems — off days don’t necessarily hurt him and I have to be careful. … Part of it is managing him, too. When you have some guys who have some age and some history of health problems, you have to manage them and pick your days. Today I picked to put him in against a left hander, and he was great.”

Girardi is a by-the-book manager, but this season — with its injuries and unexpected roster moves — has required some improvisation. And Girardi’s been able to do it. Joba Chamberlain pitched three straight games and closed today. Jayson Nix was the No. 2 hitter. Sabathia was left out there with a high pitch count in the eighth. Very little about this season has gone as planned, but the front office has have made some adjustments, Girardi has been willing to bend a little, and guys like Hafner and Wells have been terrific.

“(Hafner)’s a stable force, a big lefty who can do damage,” Wells said. “Having guys like that in the lineup, and obviously guys like Cano, it changes your whole lineup and how you get attacked. It’s huge having him. Hopefully we can keep him healthy with the rest of the guys we still have left. … We come here and (are) asked to be in the middle of this lineup. It’s fun. We enjoy putting this uniform on and having the chance to contribute. We’re having fun doing it.”

• This was one of those Sabathia starts when everyone in the ballpark was sure he’d be out after five and he wound up going eight. His stuff wasn’t great — he said as much — but he didn’t walk anyone, and the distance was huge. “I think, honestly, if you look at the first two innings (when the Jays went down in order), they just missed some balls,” Sabathia said. “I left some balls in the middle of the plate and just were popping them up or mis-hitting them. It seemed like I breezed through, but I probably could have made a little bit better pitches early in the game. … Later in the game, I felt better with my fastball command and the changeup started working a little better.”

• Girardi on Sabathia: “I’ve seen him do it so many times, that’s the thing. That’s one of the things that’s impressed me the most about him, and there’s a lot of things to talk about — the wins he’s had since he’s been here, some of his playoff performances, Game 5 against Baltimore, the innings he gives you — the way he competes when he doesn’t have his stuff is probably as impressive as anything. That’s how you become a 20-game winner.”

• Hafner said he was told yesterday that he would start today. “It’s nice to get some starts (against lefties) in there just because you face them late in games and it’s nice to have some at-bats off them,” he said. “I think I will get some starts, but I know they have my best interests at heart too. Whenever they want me to play, I’m ready.”

• Hafner on facing lefties: “I’ve had some really good years swinging the bat against them. I haven’t swung as well against the last couple of years, but I probably feel like my swing is better suited to handle them this year. … Just basically less movement, using my hands better. I think I can use the whole field a little bit better.”

• The Yankees have had go-ahead triples in their past two games, and they’ve been hit by Hafner and Lyle Overbay, who guys who have combined to hit 25 triples in their careers.

• Was Hafner thinking triple off the bat in the seventh? “I don’t think triple very often. It got away from him pretty good. Usually something like that has to happen for me to get to third. … I was just kind of hoping it got over his head. I know that Davis is fast, so I wasn’t sure. Just a matter of inches there. It tipped off his glove, so I was pumped about that.”

• Sabathia said, without hint of joking, that it was the first triple he could remember ever seeing Hafner hit (and, remember, they were together in Cleveland). “He’s been huge,” Sabathia said. “This is the Pronk of old. We knew coming in, if he could stay healthy and get with K-Long, he’d have a good chance of having a good year. And he’s gotten off to a good start.”

• The easy to overlook at-bat had to be Wells game-tying single of Esmil Rogers: “He’s got good stuff,” Wells said. “A guy like that, if you try to do too much you’re going to get yourself in trouble. he started me off with three sliders and then I got a fastball to hit and tried to put the barrel on it.”

• What in the world was Wells thinking stealing third in the seventh? “Robbie (Thomson) and I were talking about it during the pitching change,” Wells said. “If you can get to third base in a situation like that, then a lot of different things come into play. They can no longer bounce breaking balls and things like that. Haf got one up and took advantage of it. Little things, we’ve got to take advantage of.”

• Jayson Nix has reached base in eight of his past 19 plate appearances. … The Yankees have homered in each of their past eight home games and 10 of 12 home games overall. … This was the 23rd time Sabathia had ever pitched eight innings without a walk. He’s pitched at least seven innings in each of his past four starts.

• Kevin Youkilis played for the first time in a week. “I thought he moved around well,” Girardi said. “He was probably a little rusty (because) he hasn’t played a whole lot lately. From a physical standpoint, he looked good.”

• Mariano Rivera and Dave Robertson had each thrown three of four days, so they weren’t available. Joba Chamberlain had pitched back-to-back days, but with limited pitch counts, which is the reason he was available. “That’s fun for me, seeing the energy of the crowd and my teammates,” Chamberlain said. “I can’t help but smile because that’s why you play the game. I’m excited to get that opportunity. Hopefully I don’t get too many because that means Mo’s closing them down, but every day that he needs a break, I’m out there for him.”

• A win tomorrow would give the Yankees their first four-game sweep of the Blue Jays since September 1995 at the old Yankee Stadium.

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513 Responses to “Postgame notes: “He made it work””

  1. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    • What in the world was Wells thinking stealing third in the seventh? “Robbie (Thomson) and I were talking about it during the pitching change,” Wells said. “If you can get to third base in a situation like that, then a lot of different things come into play. They can no longer bounce breaking balls and things like that. Haf got one up and took advantage of it. Little things, we’ve got to take advantage of.”
    ======================
    O’Neill lauded the steal.
    Kay didn’t want to disagree but you never want to make th 3rd out at 3B.
    That would have leliminated Hafners triple if he’s caught.
    I noticed the pitcher go into a windup, which is prolly why Wells went and a good throw would have had him.

    How’s that for talking baseball?

  2. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Sometimes serendipity comes into play and you learn things you wouldn’t have know otherwise.

    Girardi being forced by injuries to move away from the book and find success doing so might just encourage him to do it even when he doesn’t have to.

    I like it.

    :)

  3. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Luis I could see him sitting Youk.
    To see how he feels and give him another day.
    Nix is hot and really I wouldn’t push Youk at 3B just yet.

  4. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    sp: known

  5. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Wells in pinstripes is a revelation. Whoda thunk it?

  6. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    MTU-

    So many of these injuries inc the latest have forced the NYY’s hand to play the youth.
    To give them their shot.
    And guys like Nuno and Romine look ready where some othersmight not be and that would be forcing them up.
    Funny how things work out sometimes.
    Things seem to be falling into place and the new vets have a winning attitude.
    No mistake by Cashman there.
    It will be interesting to see who goes when Grandy and Tex come back.

  7. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 27th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    “Wells in pinstripes is a revelation. Whoda thunk it?”

    At least one person on this forum…

  8. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    I’m hopeful on Nuno and Romine but – Let’s see what happens.

  9. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
    joeman,
    There was a time when AT&T and the Bell System reclassified the basic pole-climbing training course from graded to “Pass/Fail”. That’s where we are. I say we’ll pass.

    ———————–
    I was 20 years old and I had a choice on the same day to either become a Cop or a lineman..my dad at that time was a detective on the narcotics squad and he said to me learn how to climb poles you’ll make more $$$$….and that was a looooong time ago

  10. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    At least one person on this forum
    ————-
    A majority of one – kudos

  11. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Francisco has been struggling? Who knew?

    Let the guy who has performed well this season play whether it’s against a lefty or righty.

    That should be written somewhere in the binder. If its not, grab a red Sharpie and write it in big bold letters.

    I get the injury history, but Hafner doesn’t need 7 games off out of 10 to stay healthy.

  12. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 27th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    “At least one person on this forum
    ————-
    A majority of one – kudos”

    Might have been more. I do remember one for sure.

  13. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Mick-

    True. Sometimes fate takes a hand. I do wish it were by design though.

    But good enough.

    I don’t know why they didn’t let CMW go to the pen instead of Nuno ?

    Maybe they just wanted a quick look see ?

    Ultimately I think Nuno would profit from staying on a starter’s schedule.

    Glad to see Phelps get his shot even if it had to be this way.

    For Grandy make Ben disappear.

    I don’t think Tex will be able to stay healthy w/o surgery. Hope I’m wrong.

    Looking forward to see what Romine brings.

    Next up Ronnier or Adams.

  14. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Am not thinking Nuno will be here too long as he appears to be a starter.
    Rapada will be the 2nd lefty again.

  15. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
    Wells in pinstripes is a revelation. Whoda thunk it?

    ——————————————
    lets let it play out..stuff can turn on a dime

  16. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Giuseppe Franco
    —————————–
    I remember you

  17. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
    Luis I could see him sitting Youk.
    To see how he feels and give him another day.
    Nix is hot and really I wouldn’t push Youk at 3B just yet.

    =========================

    This makes sense…. Which means Nix and Overbay tomorrow… We have already taken the series, so there is no need to push him… Even though i would go all out for the sweep, I could understand them doing this. Still, who do you put on the 2 spot? Nix? i rather go with Wells then, but after Hafner in the cleanup spot, who do you put in the 5 hole?

    If this is the case I would still put Nunez in the 2 spot

    Gardner
    Nunez
    Cano
    Wells
    Hafner
    Ichiro
    Nix
    Romine
    Ichiro

  18. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Mick-

    I hope you are right.

    I do not want to see another potentially good starter yo-yo’ed.

    Rapada is death on lefties.

  19. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    My bad,

    Hafner
    Ichiro
    Romine
    Overbay
    Nix

  20. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    CMW is a starter only and should be used as such until an emergency, if he can hack it at the MiLB level 1st.

    What could be interesting is what happens with Nova if Phelps succeeds.

  21. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    GF-

    Glad to hear you are doing so well.

    lettuce pray it continues.

    See what I did there ?

    :)

  22. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Rapada will be the 2nd lefty again.
    ———–
    Chances are slim.

  23. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Remember when thirty seemed so old
    Now lookin’ back, it’s just a steppin’ stone
    To where we are, where we’ve been
    Said we’d do it all again
    Remember when

    Remember when we said when we turned gray
    When the children grow up and move away
    We won’t be sad, we’ll be glad
    For all the life we’ve had
    And we’ll remember when

  24. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    So can joeman’s general crotchetiness and negativity towards everything Yankees be blamed on him handling too many live wires?

  25. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Mick-

    Phelps has succeded before and instead of being rewarded for it he became a victim of his own versatility.

    I’d be surprised if anything different happens this time.

  26. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
    So can joeman’s general crotchetiness and negativity towards everything Yankees be blamed on him handling too many live wires?

    ————————-
    hey no fair

  27. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Mike

    You’ve been sneaking over to RAB again for your material.

  28. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Bo knows,

    I am very surprised with Wells, especially on how good a situational hitter he has become… let’s hope he keeps it up

  29. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Still, who do you put on the 2 spot? Nix?
    =====================
    luiss
    nix has been in the 2 spot this entire series and he is good there as I thought he would be.
    Ichiro is heating up.
    he’s used 3 leftys in a row before and could drop nix to bottom of order with romine and nunez.

    gardy,ichiro,cano, hafner, wells,overbay,nunez,nix, romine

  30. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    Bo-

    I never post there Bo.

    Must be someone else.

    I do like their analyses though sometimes.

  31. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    MTU,

    Thank you very much. Much appreciated.

    I’ve got to admit. This shell of a team has been much more fun to watch this season than I could have expected.

    I tend to be an optimistic Yankee fan but common sense told me the mounting injuries have to catch up to them sooner or later, right?

    Perhaps not.

  32. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    my advice to all don’t touch down wires

  33. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    GF-

    You’re welcome.

    You and the Yankees have defied the odds.

    ;)

  34. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    I think Phelps will do a much better job starting than as RP… Which means the Yankees have a problem, but in this isntance is a good problem to have… I’ll say this, the inning Nova pitched before he got hurt was very good and his mechanics looked consistent and balanced… it is sad, because some of that progress might be lost because the inactivity.

  35. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    I have to say that I enjoy this team more than last years .
    The dependence on HR’s last year was pathetic and the reason why they didn’t produce in clutch situations.
    This team is much more mature and has better hitters than last.
    I hope Grandy and Tex blend in with this new approach as Youk, Wells and Hafner are at the core of it.
    Can I say core, without insulting anyone?

  36. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    lets hope the returning players don’t upset the apple cart

  37. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    As John Lennon once said.

    Imagine what the the Yankees could be with all their people.

    :)

  38. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    I’ll say this, the inning Nova pitched before he got hurt was very good and his mechanics looked consistent and balanced… it is sad, because some of that progress might be lost because the inactivity.
    ==================
    I get the feeling that Girardi is actually relieved of not having to pull Nova from the rotation in favor of Phelps.
    All of these injuries have made him look smart ;)

  39. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Mick,

    You can… But don’t lose sight that in the end this are complimentary players for one reason or the other…. This incredible performance by this vets shouldn’t take the Yankees of the ball… Which is developing a new homegrown core for the next decade

  40. Jesus Bustero April 27th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    I will have to credit Trisha for her bullish stance on Vernon Wells. Jerkface and Rich in NJ were blasting that move as Cashman’s worst of all time.

  41. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    I am very surprised with Wells, especially on how good a situational hitter he has become… let’s hope he keeps it up
    ———
    I’ve followed him for a long time and he was this player when he first came up. Then he went away. It’s the reverence for the pinstripes and enough pride to change.

    I didn’t see it. I was pushing hard to sign Hunter and trade Granderson. Kind of a Beltran/Swisher switch – Part Deux.

    I still mumble about it. Hunter, Gardner, Wells in the OF. Woah The dreamwish OF

  42. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    GF,

    I didn’t know you were ill…. I hope everything is fine healthwise now.

  43. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    You see, now we are talking baseball.
    Not as stimulating as waxing poetics?
    Some seem to think so and prolly think this boring as no “opinions” are being expressed re:
    who is right or wrong.
    It’s just baseball and why aren’t they here for that?
    Is that coherent enough?

  44. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Luis-

    “This incredible performance by this vets shouldn’t take the Yankees of the ball… Which is developing a new homegrown core for the next decade.”

    Now I see why they nominated you for Man of the Year.

    Or at least for Mayor of Caracas.

    :)

  45. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Which is developing a new homegrown core for the next decade
    ==============================
    Isn’t that what the minor league is for luis?

  46. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    I will have to credit Trisha for her bullish stance on Vernon Wells.
    ==================================
    I don’t think it was a bullsh!t stance…

  47. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    Mr. Bo-

    Can I dream too ?

    Holliday, GGBG, and Upton.

    See you. And raise ya’ two.

    :)

  48. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    no problem with Gardner yet

  49. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    This incredible performance by this vets shouldn’t take the Yankees of the ball…
    ============================
    Luis-
    My point was the opposite of that.
    These vets have taught the rest the proper way to play the game.

  50. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    I never post there Bo.

    Must be someone else.

    I do like their analyses though sometimes.
    ————–
    They’ve been beating to death that Romaine lettuce thing for months.

  51. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Hafner, Wells, Overbay,and Youkilis are like “Space Cowboys”.

    Guys with something to prove.

    :)

  52. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Those who cried about the lack of situational hitting last year are noticeably quiet about the lack of it this year and the acquiring of these vets are what have changed the culture.

    The letting go of Swisher and Martin was the signal that the times were a changin’.

  53. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Bo-

    I see. Didn’t know that.

    I’ll avoid it from now on.

    GF had referred to it last night and I was working off of that.

    He gets my comeback player of the decade award for his courage.

    I was just trying to give him a laugh.

    ;)

  54. luis April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Mr Bustero,

    To be fair, Wells numbers weren’t very good… I don’t think you can blame anyone for not being that high on this move. FTR: I was one of those shaking my head… Then there is the payroll space he takes along with Ichiro, unless they scrap the 189 cap plan… Which in turn raises other questions, Why didn’t they signed Yu or Cespedes? ( which would have worked on either plan)

    In my case, my position was very simple… We are heading to a down period and we need to start rebuilding the core… Why not try some of the youngsters we have down in the farm?… why do we always have to rely on vets with health issues or that are clearly declining?… Why don’t we have a long term plan other than dealing with the season at hand?…

    Having said the above, I am actually enjoying this team… I am happy and surprised with the contributions of Wells and Hafner… But when do we start to think about the inevitable end of the core four era?

  55. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Mike

    You’re dreaming in technicolor. Mine was in the grasp.

    I would like to think – that if Cashman had the freedom to deal, that he would have done so. There was a rumor that they were talking to the Angels about Wells. And the Hunter Granderson exchange was a no brainer costwise and a two year bridge to the kids. Plus whatever returns from a Granderson trade would be a bonus.

  56. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    Thank you, Luis.

    My illness began back in 2009. I was 90% paralyzed and spent 7 months confined in a hospital bed from a condition called CIDP.

    Watched the entire Yankee postseason of 2009 from my hospital bed but couldn’t watch any of the YES pregame or postgame coverage or the ticker tape parade.

    It was a very long and grueling road but I made a full recovery and I’m now in the best shape of my life. The experience completely turned me into a gym rat and I love it.

  57. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    1) Wells is basically fre next year.
    2) The core is in the minors getting ready, or not.
    3) Do you think Cashman got lucky with Wells? Why not give him some credit?
    4) How do you know we are headed for a down period?

  58. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Luis-

    If it makes you feel any better I was shocked when they signed Wells too.

    And very much against it for the same reasons.

    But I’ve been wrong many times before and I’m Man enough to admit when I am.

    And to apologize for it.

    I’m kind of a reverse barmometer around here.

    All the Yankees needs to do is do the opposite of what I say.

    ;)

  59. mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

    -free-

  60. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    So my comments still have value.

    I’d like to think they sometimes provide some much needed comic relief.

    :)

  61. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 9:56 pm
    Thank you, Luis.

    My illness began back in 2009. I was 90% paralyzed and spent 7 months confined in a hospital bed from a condition called CIDP.

    Watched the entire Yankee postseason of 2009 from my hospital bed but couldn’t watch any of the YES pregame or postgame coverage or the ticker tape parade.

    It was a very long and grueling road but I made a full recovery and I’m now in the best shape of my life. The experience completely turned me into a gym rat and I love it.

    ——————————-
    nice job..best to you

  62. jmv April 27th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Good evening

    We continue to scratch wins. That’s awesome and fu

    Just thinking:

    Nuno came ahead of Wang because the latter is still in semi-ST mode. But will be sent down ASAP. He’s too valuable as a starter, and needs to be stretched. Lefty specialist on the way soon

    Nunez.can’t be in the 2 spot. Not right now. Even Ichiro is a better fit at this particular moment

    Wells wasn’t lying when he said he was a Yankee fan. The guy is really enjoying these days

    Joe and Cashman get some credit for what they’ve done so far. Moreover, in signing vets, they’re keeping the farm, looking into the future

  63. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    But we can go back to the Culver vs Castellanos draft pick due to budget constraints and so on down the line.

  64. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Bo-

    I was taught that if you are going to dream. To dream big.

    ;)

  65. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Of all the lives you could lead, how would being on the Astros 25 man roster be? I’d sign in a minute.

  66. joeman April 27th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    just saying..soppose Arod,Jeter,Grandy and Tex all came back tomorrow ..who leaves

  67. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Mister Tom-

    Then who would run the South’s best B and B ?

    :(

  68. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Those who cried about the lack of situational hitting last year are noticeably quiet about the lack of it this year and the acquiring of these vets are what have changed the culture.

    The letting go of Swisher and Martin was the signal that the times were a changin’.

    ———-

    Let’s try to keep this current situation in perspective.

    Wells is now a Yankee only because Granderson broke his arm. Youkilis is a Yankee because A-Rod effed up his hip.

    Overbay is a Yankee because Teixeira effed up his wrist.

    Injuries caused Cashman to bargain shop (except for Youkilis) to bring these guys aboard. It wasn’t some master plan Cashman had all along.

    I hope the production continues. They’ve far exceeded expectations and we can only hope the clock doesn’t strike midnight anytime soon.

  69. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    MTU,

    Thank you… But i don’t think I win an election in the building I live in… ;)

    Mick,

    Teaching how to play the game to a bunch of vets?… I would understand this if this guys were surrounded by rookies, but that’s hardly the case… We have endure for years how the youngsters get a pass over a vet ( Remember Phelps in the BP while Garcia had a spot in the rotation?, or Mcgehe over Mustelier or this season Nix over Mustelier or Adams? )… What I meant goes far beyond this season and is directed more to the FO than the team that is currently playing.

    In short, I would like to see Youkilis, Wells and Hafner teaching this to rookies… We have a saying down here that goes along this lines ” You can’t teach an old parrot to talk”.

  70. MG April 27th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Here is what I said about the Wells trade after watching him play his first game with the Yankees (as well as Hafner, who was hitting under .200 in spring training before this game):

    MG March 26th, 2013 at 10:40 pm
    I only saw Wells’ 3 ABs tonight but his bat is pretty quick and the swing seems pretty short.

    If he can sustain that over the course of the season he could help the Yankees a lot.

    Hafner really looked good at the plate tonight also-the double down the right field line came right after he couldn’t catch up with a 96 mph fastball and it wasn’t off an off speed pitch.

  71. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Joeman-

    Whoever has to to make room.

    In priority order.

    You decide.

    ;)

  72. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Thank you, joeman.

  73. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Luis-

    You’ve got my vote.

    ;)

  74. jmv April 27th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    GF,

    I’m very glad to know you came back strong. I know the disease, it requires s a lot of effort to beat. Wish you the best.

    MTU,
    Please don’t make Luis a mayor. I won’t call him “your grace” (unless he declares playoffs non-labor days)

  75. Hassey April 27th, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    All is possible when you put the ball in play

  76. MG April 27th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Nix may be an average to below average shortstop but he is very good at 3B, it seems like his natural position.

    He has a very quick first step and has a good arm from there.

    He’s hitting the ball pretty well right now also, it makes them a little more competitive against lefties.

    I said before the season that if I was managing against them I would throw every lefty I had because they are so weak from the right side.

    This really changes when Teix, Jeter and (although I hope not) Arod gets back, at which time you would have to be crazy to throw a lefty out there.

    If they get all of their guys back this becomes a very dangerous offensive team down the stretch…

  77. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    Mister MTU,
    Hey, you age out of everything. Got a bunch of Texas ladies who are here to bury their brother’s ashes at the family burial ground about ten miles south of East Nowhere. At the moment, I’d rather be losing to the Sox at Fenway, and be making half a million for doing it.

  78. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    I was taught that if you are going to dream. To dream big.
    ———–
    My Dad – who is getting smarter by the day – maintained “Pick an achievable goal. You’ll have accomplished something and the perspective will be different when you get there”. I’ve been ascribing so many things to Dad that my kids think that I’m just a mouthpiece.

    Then he showed up one day and interjected;

    “Hey, I never said that”

    “You didn’t? Well then, you should have”

    “You’re just making things up”

    “Yah, but think on how smart I make you look”

    And we broke right up and got into the good beer.

  79. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    jmv-

    I am only one vote. He did offer to take to Canaima. That’s a heck of a bribe.

    ;)

  80. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    GF,

    Wow!! that must have been some ride…In any case, I am glad that you are around, you are a very good poster, you should be around more often.

  81. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Thank you, jmv.

    There aren’t many who have ever heard of CIDP so my guess is that you must be in the medical field in some fashion (doctor, nurse, or physical therapist?) or know someone who suffered from it.

    As a matter of fact, the only people I’ve talked to in the past 3 years who already knew what CIDP was were all doctors.

  82. jacksquat April 27th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    The Wells trade at first baffled me, but it was only money and none of it was on the books for next year so I didn’t care a lot. Then I heard he had changed his swing and had a great spring training so I was a little optimistic. Then I saw his swing and was more optimistic.

  83. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Bo-

    You’re a good Son, and an even better beer drinker.

    Tom-

    Now why am I not surprised. Watch out for those Ladies from Texas.

    :)

  84. Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    I appreciate the kind words, luis.

  85. MG April 27th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    I think Wells is like the PGA tour players whose game fell apart because of a swing change, finally figured it out, and now is ‘winning’ again. There is a very long list of them over the years.

    He has always been a very talented player, he isn’t going to go back to the stuff that took him to an almost permanent spot on the Angels bnech.

  86. jacksquat April 27th, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    Nix is hitting well against lhp, against rhp he is not (and hasn’t for his career). If Youk needs a day off that’s one thing, but I would not play Nix vs a rhp just because of how he has hit lhp.

  87. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Giuseppe Franco April 27th, 2013 at 10:06 pm
    mick April 27th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Those who cried about the lack of situational hitting last year are noticeably quiet about the lack of it this year and the acquiring of these vets are what have changed the culture.

    The letting go of Swisher and Martin was the signal that the times were a changin’.

    ———-

    Let’s try to keep this current situation in perspective.

    Wells is now a Yankee only because Granderson broke his arm. Youkilis is a Yankee because A-Rod effed up his hip.

    Overbay is a Yankee because Teixeira effed up his wrist.

    Injuries caused Cashman to bargain shop (except for Youkilis) to bring these guys aboard. It wasn’t some master plan Cashman had all along.

    I hope the production continues. They’ve far exceeded expectations and we can only hope the clock doesn’t strike midnight anytime soon.

    ================================

    This… See?… You need to come in more frequently ;)

    I think that the Wells approach is for real… They need to keep Hafner healthy, same goes with Youkilis… I dread more the return of Tex and Grandy at this point.

    Mick,

    I give props to the FO for the great scouting of Wells and I liked the Hafner signing… Still,they are not addressing the future… part of it should be easying some youth in to the fold an withstand the critics when the inevitable growing pains take place

  88. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    jmv,

    You are a doctor, which means that your off days are somewhat dicey ( You may be called for an emergency on Christmass Eve )… So declaring palyoffs non laboring dayshave no bearing to you, so can i have your vote? ;)

    MTU,

    Vote for me or not… You are still invited ;)

  89. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Luis-

    “Still,they are not addressing the future… part of it should be easying some youth in to the fold an withstand the critics when the inevitable growing pains take place”

    Damn you Luis. Now I have to vote for you twice.

    Just like in Venezuela.

    ;)

  90. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    MTU,
    Not saying they’re Ladies, but when I ran the Visa card manually, I inadvertently added a digit, which brought the bill to $18,437.00, and it cleared! I reversed it, but they deserved to be called Ladies, at least until they arrived.

  91. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    You’re a good Son, and an even better beer drinker.
    ————-
    A chip off the old block and I tell him that if he didn’t steal my material, he’d have nothing to talk about, that wasn’t recycled.

    Czech ‘Urquell’ or the new one – Fuller’s ‘Honey Dew’.

  92. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Tom-

    :)

  93. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Go, ‘Stros!

  94. jmv April 27th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    GF,

    I’m a surgeon, so I just know what I remember from med school. But yes, I’ve seen it. Tough one. Still glad you came through it.

    MTU,

    Canaima? He’ll be a great mayor.make it 2 votes, LOL

    Bo, how are you? Try to find an Argentinean wine called “Don Valentin”. You’ll probably like it

  95. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    Bo-

    Thanks for the tip but I’m not a match for someone sophisticated like you.

    I stick to the essentials. Essentially, if it has enough alcohol in it for the right price that’s all I tend to care about.

    You would see me as a beer peasant totally lacking in savior faire.

    But I do hike a lot and take OK photos once in a while.

    :)

  96. MG April 27th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    other than possibly Adams (Mustelier still hasn’t played a single inning at AAA so can’t be considered) who should the Yankees be easing into the roster (positional players) right now?

    None of the top prospects are playing at AAA and most of them just got to AA, they aren’t ready.

    They do ease pitchers into the staff and then get criticized for hurting their development.

    Cervelli got hurt and they recalled Romine, if they always go with vets why not recall Bobby Wilson?

    If you ask 100 minor league players if they would rather be at AAA playing everyday or sitting on the bench in the majors each of them would say ‘put me on the bench with the big club’.

  97. Jesus Bustero April 27th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    Yeah it’s looking like the Yankees hosed LAA in the Wells deal. I believe they paid attention and saw something. Same with Youkilis. Same with Hafner. And I believe, same with Ichiro who has been tearing it up lately. He’s found it again.

    These aren’t coincidences.

  98. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    MG-

    The Yankees are used to buying what they want/need in recent years.

    They are now entering a transitional phase from unlimited $’s to a more restrictive budget.

    Couple that with the fact that more teams have money lately leading to them locking up more prized assets.

    And what you have is a brave New world of player development.

    The Yankees are behind the curve at the moment. Some Teams definitely seem to know how to do it better (i.e Tampa).

    Just hope they can catch up, or failing that, return to opening up the money spigot more.

  99. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Mister MYU,
    When in hell is your island going to open? I’m ready. You’ve already assigned me my job, and there will be Pilsner Urquell, as well as REAL budweiser from Pilsen. Get on the case!

  100. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Thanks Luis.

    I dream of the Orinoco and Angel Falls. Places of mystery and wonder.

    Alas, my wallet is bare.

    You go. And tell me all about it.

    I’d enjoy that almost as much as being there with you.

    :)

  101. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    jmv

    Good and you?

    Thanks, I’ll look for it. I looked it up and it sounds very promising.

    I’m partial to cab/sauv but normally I put my pride away and drink boxed. But when a meal deserves it I’m into the cellar.

    I worship at the altar called “Quality of Life”

  102. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Tom-

    I already have my own private Idaho.

    Or is that Utah ?

    But anyway, the Island is open 24 x 7. Always has been.

    Just close your eyes and imagine it and you’re there.

    Enjoy.

    :)

  103. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    MG,

    I am on record ( in light of the 189 mil cap ) as saying that since they can’t keep on spending, then they should concentrate in rebuilding… i am on record saying that Romine, Adams, Mustelier should have been on the team for this season, trade Granderson for prospects to improve the talent pool for example ( i wanted Swish traded, but I am fine with the pick )… Signing Ichiro, Youkilis, Hafner and trading for Wells basically puts on hold the necessary rebuilding that needs to take place and hinders their financial ability to retain key players if they are serious about the cap ( Hughes, Joba and Cano ).

    Then there is another player that is ready and they didn’t even took a good look at him…. Flores, his bat is ready and could become as good as Abreu minus his pathological fear of walls.

    In short, this moves are fine for this season and have turned out well so far… When do they start seriously to think about the next decade?… This year by year plan at some point will blow up in their faces if they don’t take action.

    Having said the above, i am having a lotof fun watching this team.

  104. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    Almost all the games on MLB TV are free tomorrow. If you haven’t tried it, give it a try. It’s my link to baseball, other than the Braves. mlb.com/mediacenter/

  105. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    And Night has pulled down the shade on Day.

    And as a weary traveller on Life’s road.

    It is time to sleep. And to dream.

    Besides tomorrow is a hike day.

    Night all. Be kind to one another. After all we’re all we have.

    See you when the Sun’s rays once again part Night’s black veil.

    ;)

  106. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    MTU April 27th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
    Luis-

    “Still,they are not addressing the future… part of it should be easying some youth in to the fold an withstand the critics when the inevitable growing pains take place”

    Damn you Luis. Now I have to vote for you twice.

    Just like in Venezuela.

    ============================

    Even the dead vote down here… My wife’s late mother who has been dead for 35 years has voted in the last 3 elections… We even resurrect people :eyeroll:

  107. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Thanks for the tip but I’m not a match for someone sophisticated like you.
    ———–
    My little brother is out on the west coast island where the economy is supported by “Gold” farming and fueled by rum moonshine – 89% pure.

    First time – we’re out there visiting and he’s feeding me these weak drinks. Nature calls, I get up and the back yard is all over the place, I’m bobbing and weaving like a drunken sailor. Hell, I am drunk. I turn to glare at him and he’s under the table howling. Try staying sophisticated.

  108. luis April 27th, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    MTU,

    There will come a time that you will be here my friend… I am lousy photographer, so I need you to capture the beauty and mistery ofthe place for me ;)

  109. luis April 27th, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    GN MTU have a good one

  110. luis April 27th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Well guys, I bid you all a very good night as well

  111. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    Tom – The man of distinction.

    Some of those micro breweries have a very nice product, it’s just a matter of finding them. As long as it isn’t that swill.

  112. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    Always loved the “Moody Blues”

    “Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
    Watch lights fade from every room.
    Bedsitter people look back and lament,
    Another day’s useless energy spent.
    Impassioned lovers wrestle as one,
    Lonely man cries for love and has none.
    New mother picks up and suckles her son,
    Senior citizens wish they were young.
    Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
    Removes the colours from our sight.
    Red is grey and yellow white.
    But we decide which is right.
    And which is an illusion? “.

    Thanks Luis.

    Time for Dulce Suenos.

  113. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Bo,
    I likes my beer! They make good stuff everywhere, but central Europe is where they’ve been making it longer and better than anybody.

  114. The Genius Maker April 27th, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    http://stevewigdor.blogspot.com/

    Enjoy

  115. MTU April 27th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Tom-

    You should try some Utah “Polygamy Porter”, or “5 Wives”.

    Good stuff and great names.

    :)

  116. Nick in SF April 27th, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Montero hit #2 and could be coming up with men on base again.

  117. tomingeorgia April 27th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    MTU,
    Unfortunately, most of the micro brewers have better names than product. But they’re all better than Bud Light!

  118. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    I likes my beer! They make good stuff everywhere, but central Europe is where they’ve been making it longer and better than anybody.
    ————
    Yep.

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 27th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    “Injuries caused Cashman to bargain shop (except for Youkilis) to bring these guys aboard. It wasn’t some master plan Cashman had all along.”

    However, with the injuries the master plan was invented, when others were crying out for anyone and everyone BUT the players the Yanks brought in to take over for the injured players. In addition, Wells was brought on more than a month after Granderson was injured and was definitely seen as an extra extra piece when it happened, not as a Granderson replacement. So even more credit is due for that move.

    Injuries may cause a team to bring in replacements, but without the right replacements, the team does not progress.

    Game, set, match, Cashman and the New York Yankees.

  120. Bo knows April 27th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    We were in Europe on a tour – everyone was out there sampling wines, I’m into the bira. From Helsinki to Rome – bira.

    The best was Austria – over the hill into the valley, a little inn – Food for the Gods and they make their own beer. Next hill and valley – different inn. Oh, and they beat their weiner schnitzel with the frying pan – true story.

  121. jmv April 28th, 2013 at 12:09 am

    Beer is fine, specially during summer. Loved it in Munich (maybe not so central) And weiner schnitzel in Austria is a piece of heaven

  122. CompassRosy April 28th, 2013 at 12:42 am

    Nick in SF April 27th, 2013 at 11:15 pm
    Montero hit #2 and could be coming up with men on base again.

    ====

    He did – unfortunately, he struck out.
    But, the M’s won (Felix FINALLY was able to beat his nemesis) and Jesus had a great game (especially considering he’s been on the bench for 3 days). He had the 2-run homer (that tied the game at the time) and he and Felix combined for an awesome play to nail the runner at the plate on a safety squeeze.

    *************

    FYI ~
    ex-Yankee farmer, Abraham Almonte (traded for Shaun Kelley) hit for the cycle tonight in Chattanooga (the second cycle in the M’s org so far this season) . . .

    Jackson Generals ?@jacksongenerals
    Here is the audio of Abraham Almonte hitting for the first cycle in Jackson franchise history. http://ow.ly/kuDYw

  123. UnKnown April 28th, 2013 at 12:44 am

    We seriously need to take a vote on who “spikes the football” the best on this blog. Some hilarious TD celebrations going on. :lol:

    You might want to at least move the ball past your own 25 yard line before you break out the Ickey Shuffle or the Dirty Bird, but whatevs…

    Y’all can turn this place into a damn Danceline each and every day as long as the Yankees keep winning. That’s all I care about. Doesn’t matter at all to me who’s agenda wins at the end of the day. I will leave the “I told you so’s” to the pros on here. :wink:

    Until then enjoy trying to boost your egos, self-confidence must really be lacking for some here. Sorry about that, I really feel bad for you as that must suck. AnyWho, Carry On. :grin:

  124. Giuseppe Franco April 28th, 2013 at 1:00 am

    trisha – true pinstriped blue April 27th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Injuries may cause a team to bring in replacements, but without the right replacements, the team does not progress.

    Game, set, match, Cashman and the New York Yankees.

    ——–

    With all due respect, trisha, I think you missed the point.

    Mick’s argument was that Cashman deserved credit for changing the team culture with these moves as part of some master plan.

    Cashman didn’t make them to change the team culture. He made them because the guys he expected to be on the field were injured and needed to be replaced.

  125. Jesus Bustero April 28th, 2013 at 1:33 am

    I think there’s definitely a concerted effort to change the team culture. They dumped Swisher before the season started and signed Ichiro. They dumped Martin and went with Cervelli. Hafner in place of Ibanez. Youkilis had been a high contact guy at points in his career when he was healthy.

    These guys are tough outs. A discernible transition was in place before the injuries. What we see is a continuation of that.

    When injuries happened, they continued the transition to higher contact hitters and a more multidimensional lineup. Wells is not a feast or famine guy. They could have brought one in last minute but they targeted Wells instead.

    The other fill ins are from within the org (Nunez + Romine). There’s a concerted effort to weave in younger players.

    Next year they could sign Shin Soo Choo instead of Granderson. Then we’ll know how far they’re willing to take it with a change of culture.

    If something like that happens (not necessarily Choo), the last one-dimensional hitters left would be Tex and Arod to a lesser extent.

    Wouldn’t be obvious by then, there’s a “master” plan or at least some pattern?

  126. Giuseppe Franco April 28th, 2013 at 1:55 am

    They didn’t “dump” Martin because they wanted to change the team culture. That’s bunk. They just didn’t want to spend the money and preferred to stick to a budget.

    Girardi loved Martin and so did Cashman. They banked on him sticking around when they traded Montero.

    His departure had nothing to do with Cashman and Girardi’s intentions to change the culture.

    Romine is only in the majors right now because Cervelli broke his hand. They chose Stewart over Romine to be the backup catcher.

    That doesn’t sound like a concerted effort to bring in younger players. They have been notoriously impatient with youngsters for the exception of a few.

  127. 4TrainNorth April 28th, 2013 at 3:39 am

    Every time I see Giuseppe Franco I pine for the YES Network. I was watching Sox-Stros on NESN tonight, just to see some ball. Help.

  128. Bad Scooter April 28th, 2013 at 7:48 am

    So you wanted Romine to be the backup catcher instead of playing everyday at Scranton?

  129. Bad Scooter April 28th, 2013 at 7:58 am

    Anybody else been looking forward to Hughes’ starts the last week or so? I think he’s rounding into form after missing time in spring training. He really started going deep into games the second half of last year, even without his best stuff, and he’s done that his last two outings. Plus, he’s throwing harder this year (what everyone was looking for the past few years) than he has in quite a while. I’m intrigued.

  130. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:17 am

    Hughes looked extremely good in his last outing.

    He had it all working.

    Would love to see that continue.

    What are the odds the Yankees will retain him even w a strong season ?

  131. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:23 am

    I have a hard time giving Girardi anything but an A+ so far this year….he’s been fantastic.

    Lets go Phil!

  132. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:24 am

    What I would like to see the Yankees do going forward :

    1) Continue to develop the Farm. Strive to be the best. Have a plan. Show consistency.

    2) Trade guys who are deemed expendable for other things they need.

    3) Acquire select FA’s to supplement #1 and #2 above.

    4) Get under the cap and re-open the money spigot.

    5) Ensure that we have the very best coaches, trainers, physicians, and other support personnel.

    Not too much to ask for the greatest sports franchise in the history of the World.

    ;)

  133. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:26 am

    Blake-

    How are ye’ after Disney World ?

    You haven’t been around much.

  134. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:30 am

    MTU,

    I just got home late last night….really tired ….I need to rest from vacation :)

  135. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:32 am

    Also think that we gotta give K Long some love….

  136. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:33 am

    Bryce Harper is OPSing 1.273 so far at age 20

  137. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Blake-

    I always liked K-Long. I think he wanted to get the guys away from the big, hairy approach.

    But you’d hear different comments from Girardi and Cashman.

    Maybe it’s the raw material he gets to work with ?

    He might be only as good as his pupils.

  138. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    Blake-

    Harper said he always wanted to be a Yankee.

    So maybe someday ?

    Time for beakfast. Hike day today.

  139. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Have a fun day MTU

  140. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Thanks Blake.

    I’ll give it my best shot.

    You rest up. We need you in tip top form around here.

  141. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:52 am

    If the playoffs started today the Yankees would make it….the Jays, Angels, Tigers, and Dodgers would not

  142. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 8:54 am

    By the way, our boy isn’t far behind.

    :(

  143. mick April 28th, 2013 at 8:56 am

    They have been notoriously impatient with youngsters for the exception of a few.
    ================================
    How did that work out the last 100 years?

  144. blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    “You rest up. We need you in tip top form around here.”

    Lol….I haven’t had much to say anyway….I’m enjoying watching this group a lot to be honest….I miss Jeter but aside from that that this club plays hard and they grind games. Yesterday was typical of them so far…..CC had nothing early but yet again you look up and he’s pitching in the 8th and giving them a chance to win…..

    People poo poo this notion about the Yankee culture but I believe in it…..I’ve seen it too many times not to

  145. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Blake-

    I liked the Hafner signing from the start.

    Youkilis was an emergency move.

    Was against the Wells signing.

    Understood but was not enthused w Overbay.

    All these injuries have forced the Yankees into a corner.

    But so far, it’s working out extremely well.

    My concern going forward is that we will see more of what ocurred w Youkilis amongst the overall group.

    Glad to see Nunez, Romine, Nuno, and Phelps get a look.

    And I want the same for Musty and/or Adams when the time is right.

  146. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    My concern w the Band-aid Brigade is that it will peel off and we’ll begin to bleed again.

    Hope not.

  147. mick April 28th, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Mick’s argument was that Cashman deserved credit for changing the team culture with these moves as part of some master plan.

    Cashman didn’t make them to change the team culture. He made them because the guys he expected to be on the field were injured and needed to be replaced.
    ============================================
    And you know this how?

    All I know is that the culture has changed, he got the right players.

    So give him no credit…

  148. mick April 28th, 2013 at 9:10 am

    It seems the ones with the agendas are those who want the current FO ousted at any cost.
    It’s almost political in its tone.
    There’s nothing you can do about it so constantly haranguing about it won’t change anything
    except to prolong your agenda.
    Whatever happened to talking baseball or is that not cool?

  149. Triple Short of a Cycle April 28th, 2013 at 9:14 am

    It seems the ones with the agendas are those who want the current FO ousted at any cost.

    ———————————

    As opposed to the Yankees can do no wrong camp??

    Also Cash wanted Russel Martin back so that refutes him wanting to change the culture

  150. randy l. April 28th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    it make sense bringing up romine because he was next in succession and he was doing well at scranton, but i’d really like to see JR murphy get a chance this year to get some mlb time in even if he does another year in the minors.

    give him a taste of the majors. if romine does well and they can bring jr murphy up, they’d have a nice little catching tandem and friendly competition for laying a base for the future.

    i have no problem with stewart as a back up, but he’s obviously not part of a real yankee future.
    if the yankees are serious about development and about putting together another core for a sustained run like the last one, they need to commit to actually playing young prospects.

    JR murphy is the real deal. great make up, hard worker, good arm, good hands, good hitter. can do daily twitter without getting in trouble, etc

  151. austinmac April 28th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Girardi has done a great job, and the players have stepped up. Wells and Hafner? Didn’t see them producing as they are.

    The 2011 Granderson would be a nice return. He should be back in a couple of weeks. Who sits should prove interesting.

  152. comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    Do Yankee fans have such short term memories that they have become enamored with Wells after 24 games?

    This guy has been sliding since his Toronto days and this year’s production is too small a sample.

    Maybe the better deal would have been to pick up Rios contract for free when the Jays released him. Younger, more athletic, outstanding defender in RF with an excellent arm and a good base runner.

    Wells, Hunter and Gardner is not a version of the Yankee OF that I’d subscribe to for anything but desperate fill in purposes.

    Gardner unproven, Hunter age and dollars and Wells?

  153. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    MTU,

    Hafner was the only position player move I really liked before the season started…..I liked the Wells deal better when I saw how they structured the money though…..it’s essentially no risk if they are ok paying the money this year.

    As for Youk….it was ok and he’s done fine so far….he’s fragile though and really can t play 3B well anymore so Id love for them to look for a better option there really continually.

    Hafner will hit as long as he stays healthy and though Vernon could regress and probably will somewhat he looks for real to me…..his swing looks a lot shorter and quicker through the zone than it has really since Toronto…..

    It’ll be interesting what they do in the OF when Grandy is ready…..because they really can’t sit Wells if he’s still hitting….

  154. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 9:17 am

    People poo poo this notion about the Yankee culture but I believe in it…..I’ve seen it too many times not to
    ——–
    Wells is a walking, talking example of it. To him the pinstripes mean something.

    “He’s got good stuff,” Wells said. “A guy like that, if you try to do too much you’re going to get yourself in trouble. he started me off with three sliders and then I got a fastball to hit and tried to put the barrel on it.”

    That sounds like something Long preaches. That sure isn’t Wells of the last few years.

    Another one I like is Nix. He doesn’t bring much talent to the table but he’s leaving it all out on the field and his D has been outstanding. Saved at least three or four doubles in close games.

    Besides, last year’s team was shut down by good BPs. If they were behind in the eighth, then it was ‘Turn out the lights’. This year, they’re putting in quality at bats.

  155. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Bo,

    Nix is a really overlooked guy but he’s a really good baseball player and a guy you need on a good team…..a guy that is ok playing a role and a guy that can step in and play every day and not kill you when he has to…..I like him a lot in that utility role

  156. Giuseppe Franco April 28th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Mick….

    WTF agenda are you talking about?

    I’m merely stating facts. Wells, Youkilis, and Overbay are now Yankees because Granderson, Teixeira, and A-Rod are injured.

    Whenever those guys return, they will be playing regularly. They were penciled in as the starters for 2013 before their respective injuries.

    You seem to have an agenda here. You claim these moves were made to change the culture.

    I’m just stating the obvious….these moves were made because the starters were injured.

  157. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    “JR murphy is the real deal. great make up, hard worker, good arm, good hands, good hitter. can do daily twitter without getting in trouble, etc”

    Randy, he sure is killing the ball….I recall you writing about him awhile back

  158. jacksquat April 28th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    blake April 28th, 2013 at 8:23 am
    I have a hard time giving Girardi anything but an A+ so far this year….he’s been fantastic.

    He gets demerits for hitting Francisco #2 and waiting too long to use Hafner vs some lhp (especially with Youk out). He also doesn’t use reliever optimally but he does it the same unimaginative way as most managers so whatever. I’m waiting to see how he handles 4 starting outfielders and where he hits Teixeira when/if he returns.

  159. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Yep, agreed

    You could almost make a point that he is more valuable to team success at 3B than Youk. Last night was a good example.

  160. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Wells certainly seems like he loves wearing the pinstripes and that’s always cool…..I’m actually half we have him again next year because given that he’s essentially free in 2014 that could be a nice add even if he doesn’t keep up this pace……

    The yanks are growing a rather nice track record with these type moves…..are they getting lucky or are they seeing things that others aren’t?

  161. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    “He gets demerits for hitting Francisco #2 and waiting too long to use Hafner vs some lhp ”

    Well he had him so I guess he wanted to see what he could do….and Hafner hasn’t hit LHP really in a long time. No manager is perfect but Girardi is better than he’s given credit for……

  162. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    “You could almost make a point that he is more valuable to team success at 3B than Youk. Last night was a good example.”

    Yea I agree with something I think you said last night…..he’s ok at SS and 2b but he’s a really good defender at 3B and it does seem like his natural spot

  163. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Yea I agree with something I think you said last night…..he’s ok at SS and 2b but he’s a really good defender at 3B and it does seem like his natural spot
    ———
    That wasn’t me but I’m sure on board with that. He’s been an eye opener over there. He’s won them a couple of games with his D.

  164. randy l. April 28th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    blake-

    my review of jr murphy is the kind that drives some people crazy on this blog. i saw him once, but i immediately liked what i saw. in other words i’m basing what i’m saying on a first impression and obviously small sample.

    murphy has all the good stuff you’re looking for in a catcher, but he also has the intangibles in a make up sense.

    i surprised him in 35 degree wind chill factor weather during trenton/seadog warmups when players weren’t really signing autographs anymore by yelling to him ” how’d you like to change a red sox fan to a yankee fan”? he saw the 12 year old kid next to me with a sea dog hat on and he laughed and came over and signed for the kid and interacted with him.

    he then went up and in his first at bat hit a ball off the top of the fake green monster in portland for a double. he also when in the bull pen on his own and did a bunch of footwork drills and also worked on balls in the dirt drills. most of the trenton team was doing as little as possible because of the cold.
    murphy was winning over 12 year olds and looking at the day as another opportunity to improve himself as a catcher .

    i clearly liked what i saw.

  165. Crawdaddy April 28th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Fans can easily bury players that are not playing well. Managers can’t as part of their job is to try to get that player going if possible. Francisco is probably cooked so his time is short as a Yankee and will most likely be gone within the next month or sooner.

  166. jacksquat April 28th, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Actually Nix played the vast majority of his minor league games at 2B and his numbers there in the majors are better there than at 3B. But I like him alright as a utility guy, just not so much as an every day player, at least not vs rhp.

  167. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Can’t leave out my favorite, Nunie. He’s really blossoming out in the field. Every good play he makes, he swells up a little. I think his wrist is coming around. He put a good swing on that hit yesterday.

  168. mick April 28th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    GF

    Cash made the choices when they got hurt and it changed the culture.
    You aren’t here as much as you used to but the LoHud Civil War is ongoing.
    It started at Mount Montero, which is where he was placed in Yankee lore along with so many others they have “given” away.

    Last year the mantra was they can’t situationally. Well that has been corrected.
    For whatever reasons ( Youk,Wells, Hafner) they are more enjoyable than last years team.

  169. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:46 am

    “But I like him alright as a utility guy, just not so much as an every day player, at least not vs rhp.”

    He’s not an every day guy….he’s a utility guy and you need those.

    Randy,
    Sometimes first impressions do have merit….

  170. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    For example as I’ve said before I saw Profar play one time when he was in the Sally league before anyone really knew who he was and you could just tell something was different about him after 5 minutes of watching

  171. mick April 28th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    I had a 1st impression with Mattingly before I ever saw him play.
    In fact, I was listening to the radio the 1st time I “saw” him play.
    True story…

  172. MG April 28th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:32 am
    “You could almost make a point that he is more valuable to team success at 3B than Youk. Last night was a good example.”

    Yea I agree with something I think you said last night…..he’s ok at SS and 2b but he’s a really good defender at 3B and it does seem like his natural spot
    ——————–
    actually it was me who made that comment, like you said, Nix is a really valuable utility guy for them…

  173. blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    MG,

    Apologies….I just skimmed through but agreed with your comment

  174. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 9:54 am

    MG

    See, I could have got in trouble. That altar boy training back when left a mark.

  175. Giuseppe Franco April 28th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    mick April 28th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    GF

    Cash made the choices when they got hurt and it changed the culture.
    You aren’t here as much as you used to but the LoHud Civil War is ongoing.
    It started at Mount Montero, which is where he was placed in Yankee lore along with so many others they have “given” away.

    Last year the mantra was they can’t situationally. Well that has been corrected.
    For whatever reasons ( Youk,Wells, Hafner) they are more enjoyable than last years team.

    ————-

    We will see how much the culture has really changed. We haven’t even flipped the calendar to May yet and Granderson and Teixeira are likely to return within the next few weeks.

    There are a lot of games to go and guys like Youkilis and Hafner have both had issues staying healthy themselves.

    I’m not part of any agenda to get Girardi or Cashman fired. I’ve never advocated for either in this forum.

    I’ve praised Cashman for decisions that have worked out and have criticized him for decisions that were predictably bad.

    It goes both ways.

  176. MG April 28th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    the Yankees may seem to be outproducing the 2012 team at the plate but the reality is that they really aren’t.

    I like Wells and Youk very much but Wells is 5-23 with RISP and Youk is hitting below the Francisco line against lefties although, in a very small sample size (7 ABs) batting .286 with RISP.

    Statistics are overrated in baseball, anyway, there are lots of things that contribute to wins that don’t show up in the box score.

    I think much of this fan-based sense of improvement is that there was so little in the way of expectations for the 2013 team and so much expected both in 2011 and 2012.

    Baseball hasn’t changed much in the past 100 years-good pitching, good defense and the ability to score some runs will win you lots of games.

    In spite of all the injuries and changes to the roster, the Yankees continue to play solid baseball, just look compare the way the Yankees play ball vs the Jays and it’s pretty obvious.

  177. MG April 28th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    blake April 28th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    MG,

    Apologies….I just skimmed through but agreed with your comment
    —————–
    no problem, we usually see things the same way on the field anyway, I wonder why…

  178. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Regarding Girardi, he makes a lot of mistakes, forgets to pinch run guys at times (as an example), his lineup is not what I would do, he messes up his pitching matchups a lot and is inconsistent with his use of guys situationally, but overall, he is better than average and remains calm (which in NY is important). He doesn’t understand that in extra innings you need to get the most out of a pitcher who is throwing well. Girardi sometimes feels like he is trying to find the guy who does not have good stuff. that being said, getting the guys into roles allows Girardi to not mess up and that is a good thing. I don;t like Girardi’s smug, condescending answers that insult my intelligence, but there are more worse managers than better IMO. Of course, I want one of the best on my team and Girardi is not that either.

  179. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Youkilis didn’t look sharp in his first game back. He was getting painted on teh outside corner and still yanked the ball for an easy groundout (as an example). Interested to see how he does over the next few games. The play where CC didn’t cover made Youkilis cover the bag and he slid into 1st base to avoid a collision and he got up stretching his back a little. I know…first hand how backs issues can really take their toll. I hope he is OK.

    http://www.stevewigdor.blogspot.com/

  180. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Statistics are overrated in baseball, anyway, there are lots of things that contribute to wins that don’t show up in the box score.
    *******

    Actually, statistics are more valuable in judgment in baseball compared to the major sports because baseball is more of an individual sport than the others. Most of what you do in baseball are individual performances that are combined to make-up a team effort.

  181. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    For the Nix fans, do you think he should start over Nunez?

  182. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    I’m guessing that a lot of things are done by committee on the Yankees right now.

    I don’t think Cashman has the autonomy he enjoyed for a while.

    Therefore, he can neither get all of the credit nor blame for things that happen.

    One thing he can get credit for is for re-emphasizing the Farm.

    What happens with Cashman and/or Girardi should be determined by a fair rendering of the end of season results.

  183. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 10:13 am

    I would have preferred Keppinger to Nix.

    But the Yankees are not doing multi-year deals these days.

    He produces well for his cost.

  184. MG April 28th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:10 am
    For the Nix fans, do you think he should start over Nunez?
    ———————
    I didn’t see anyone say that, we said he’s a good utility guy who can play a few positions.

    Nix wouldn’t be an upgrade at SS over Nunez unless Nunez reverts to his bad defense of the past couple of years, something that is most likely behind him.

    Nunez is only playing shortstop, he can’t fill the Nix role so he either plays SS or probably wouldn’t be on the team at this point in time…

  185. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Last year post season Giradi and commitee picked Nix to start over Nunez.

    IMO Nix is ok at 2B and has looked good at 3B this year. He has not looked great at SS.

    He’s an ok back up that is getting way to many starts due to injuries. He has handled it better than I expected, good for him.

  186. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    I agree with MG, Nix is a fairly useful utility guy, but would be a bad starter anywhere

  187. Madrugador April 28th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    The Yanks look good against Toronto and Cleveland and they look like “a last place team playing a first place team” against Detroit.
    Houston comes in after Toronto so the feel good fest should continue for a while. Wonder how long this will last once we Oakland comes to town?

    Maybe Wells really did wake up after his trade up to pinstripes but as for the rest of the band aid brigade, I am not sold yet.

  188. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    One of the reasons I like Ronnier is that he is versatile.

    He seems to have the ability to play 3B, and both OF corners.

    Areas of need on the Yankees.

  189. blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Nix shouldn’t start over Nunez for a couple of reasons…..1) he’s not a great SS ….he’s adequate there but Nunez is better when he’s not making errors 2) they need Nix to play multiple spots because he can and Nunez can’t 3) nix is what he is and they need to find out what Nunez is while Jeter is out and see if he can be more than a back up.

    Nix isn’t a starter….he’s a utility guy that can start when necessary

  190. MG April 28th, 2013 at 10:28 am

    tar, you can’t put a guy at SS who can’t field the position in the postseason, it makes no sense.

    last year Nunez was a disaster waiting to happen at SS, he is much improved this year and I give him credit for that, there was a significant amount of work needed to get there.

  191. blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    You can sit and nit pick every manager and say they could have done things differently…..but Girardi managed a team last year to 95 wins that honestly wasn’t that good and he’s got a bunch of retreads playing pretty well this year…..he has to get some credit here

  192. GregD April 28th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    You have to give Cashman credit for getting Wells, Hafner, Youkilis and Overbay. Not many teams could lose 4 of their top 5 hitters and still be near the top in standings

  193. GregD April 28th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:29 am
    You can sit and nit pick every manager and say they could have done things differently…..but Girardi managed a team last year to 95 wins that honestly wasn’t that good and he’s got a bunch of retreads playing pretty well this year…..he has to get some credit here
    ——————
    +1

  194. comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    The Girardi “analysis” here is absurd.

    The team does good, it’s a cultural change,it’s wearing the pinstripes, it’s bench players contributing, it’s the batting coach imparting his debatable wisdom to newbies.

    RE: Long, has he done anything with Gardner, or how about the great experiment with Granderson, has he “helped” Nunez? These coaches are a modest benefit at the major league level at best and the entire process is over valued.

    Girardi as any mgr./coach plays the personnel the GM provides which is why it’s always the mgr./coach who is thrown under the bus when cosmetic changes are made.

    And please with the Nix nonsense, he didn’t even have good minor league numbers and some here make him out to be the second coming of Brooks Robinson! ;)

  195. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    If anyone would have told me at the start of the season that the Sux would have the best record in baseball at this point I would told them to go see a Dr.

    But there it is.

    You can’t predict baseball.

    ;)

  196. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Nunez of course has to start over Nix. He’ll start hitting as well, but he has always had the D and with reps is showing it.

    KLong should get a lot of credit for the Ab’s this year (just as he’s gotten the criticism in the past) for implementing the shorter swings that players like Haf and Wells are buying into. Players get the credit too for changing their swings, and not resisting as a player like Teix has done. The situational hitting that was lacking has arrived part and parcel of buying into shortening the swing and going oppo, something we have been wailing about. This should have been done last year. Let’s just hope that Grandy and Teix returning and insisting on hero swinging doesn’t upset the apple cart. FTR, many of us emphasized that we would not do well in the playoffs with hero swingers like Swish and Martin. Looks like the new players get this, but not sure about the returning group. If the Yankees finally realize that they need to shorten up going forward, all I can say is thank God.

    Randy, JR has had great AB’s going back to last year, and has been my rising catcher to watch. I can’t say enough about how he has progressed behind the plate. As I have said he is the guy that i like most after Sanchez. Glad to see Romine get a shot, hopefully catching Hughes today, a pitcher he knows and certainly can call a good game for.

    Speaking of Hughes, heading to the Bronx to support him. I hope to see the mix of sliders, CB’s he threw last game. And has to keep the fastball down. Toronto is a tough lineup if you don’t have your location. I’ll never forget Hughes’ first start vs. Toronto at the Stadium. He didn’t do too badly for a green kid although Rios owned him. I expect Phil to keep on making progress. Go Huuuughes!

    Gutsy outing by Joba pitching for the third day in a row.

    JRam gets his own start on Wed. in Trenton. Can’t wait.

  197. comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Greg D, how about we give Cashman discredit for being the man in charge for now 8 years , having an unproductive farm system and making a few debatable trades?

    As for who he picked up in the off season….”picked up” is the correct expression………..from the scrap heap of players available to all teams!

  198. MG April 28th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    .256 .352 .436 .788
    .222 .316 .415 .731

    Today’s LoHud quiz: This are team results with RISP in 2012 and 2013-which slash line is the Yankees in 2013 and which one is 2012?

  199. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:35 am

    I guess we are all in agreement.

    MG

    The offense should have been the priority last post season. On my phone but last I checked Nix ops vs RH was really really bad. They needed some energy for that anemic offense. And in fact they realized their mistake and Nunez did start near the end if my memory is correct.

    Giradi and committee do get things right, but sometimes it’s a little too much trial and error on things that should be apparent. This years example Hafner and Francisco.

  200. 86w183 April 28th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    And please with the Nix nonsense, he didn’t even have good minor league numbers and some here make him out to be the second coming of Brooks Robinson!

    **************************************************************************

    I’d be happy with the second coming of Brook Jacoby.

    You have to be impressed with the results Girardi/Cashman have gotten out of this patchwork quilt of a baseball team. 13-5 in the last 18games is pretty damn good.

    That said they simply have to find a replacement for Ben Francisco. I didn’t think it was possible to have an OPS + in negative numbers but he does (minus-9).

  201. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Nunez had footwork issues but he just needed to get more regular PT, which he wasn’t going to do with Jeter healthy.

    He was a good defender at Trenton, which I’ve tried to tell you folks many times, but during his time here he played regularly. His issue was, once in a while, not being planted well for the throw, and the other, he would sometimes charge the ball when he didn’t need to, but otherwise, he was a good short stop with range and the ability to make athletic plays and who had a strong arm. IOW, what you’re seeing right now.

    I’m sure he continues to work on things, as all young players should, but he’s basically the beneficiary of more regular PT. I expect at some point he’ll start hitting more – he’s the most talented of the “young” players we have.

  202. GregD April 28th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Going to ballpark in the Bronx…..game #4 this year :)

  203. blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    “JRam gets his own start on Wed. in Trenton. Can’t wait.”

    Yay.

  204. MTU April 28th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Time to hit the trail.

    Catch you all later.

    Have a good one.

  205. yankee21 April 28th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Nix is a role player that really only thrives offensively against mediocre LHP.

    Against most RHP and those LHP with above average stuff he is simply over-matched. He is a flat out guess hitter and when he guesses wrong he is completely unable to adjust and he will take called third strikes right down the middle with the best of them.

    The best use for Nix is an 8th or 9th inning defensive replacement at 3B for Youkilis and occasionally at 2B to spell Cano if he needs a day off or Nunez to give him a day. In my eyes he is slightly above average at 3B and adequate defensively anywhere else.

    He is a guy that shouldn’t start more than about 25 games a year. anything more he becomes over-exposed for what he is a borderline major leaguer.

  206. MG April 28th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    For anyone to translate the ‘Nix is a good utility guy who is better at 3rd than SS’ into ‘the second coming of Brooks Robinson’ means they either
    1. Have an agenda
    2. Need new glasses or
    3. Reading comprehension isn’t one of their strengths.

  207. comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    “Wells and Hafner are buying into shorter swings” on the basis of some of Long’s magic?

    Is this a serious comment, you have heard both players express this publically, or is this your own interpretation of their early success?

    These are two veteran players and like others including the ones both you and I noted rarely change permanently.

    See the Jeter experiment!

  208. GregD April 28th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 10:35 am
    Greg D, how about we give Cashman discredit for being the man in charge for now 8 years , having an unproductive farm system and making a few debatable trades?

    As for who he picked up in the off season….”picked up” is the correct expression………..from the scrap heap of players available to all teams!
    ——————–
    You certainly are welcome to criticize him for those things…… But the players that he pulled from the scrap heap as you call it are doing well and they didn’t get picked up by other teams because Cashman acquired them……he deserves credit

  209. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Tar, they took unnecessarily long to put Nunez back in the lineup in 2012.

  210. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    IMO Nix is ok at 2B and has looked good at 3B this year. He has not looked great at SS.
    ///

    I don’t like him at 2B or SS, frankly. He’s made some nice plays at third, but his arm isn’t very good. He’s gotten some big hits lately, but he is what he is, a “versatile” guy who doesn’t really do anything particularly well, and that’s fine as long as he doesn’t find himself in the lineup too often. There’s a way better hitter who could play 3B for us and hit LHP over a larger sample size, in David Adams. Granted, Adams isn’t going to back up Nunez at SS, and there’s the rub, but they could just move Youkilis to 1B and bring up Adams for 3B (and give the occasional blow to Robi at 2B).

  211. yankee21 April 28th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Wells is doing well but I’m not completely sold on him yet.

    Three things stood out for me in yesterday’s game, one of which was a positive.

    Solid run scoring single to right-CF, he went with the pitch and didn’t press like he has most of the last couple of years with RISP.

    The two negatives, I’m sorry at his age and with his wheels you do not attempt stealing 3B with two outs he was lucky he was safe, a good throw would have nailed him. Stupid decision with a positive result.

    The other was a first pitch swinging after CC labored in the seventh inning. He saw his pitcher throw nearly 30 pitches in the top frame, yet like Cano, he went up there hacking on the first pitch and got out. Show some patience and take a pitch in that situation.

  212. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:29 am
    You can sit and nit pick every manager and say they could have done things differently…..but Girardi managed a team last year to 95 wins that honestly wasn’t that good and he’s got a bunch of retreads playing pretty well this year…..he has to get some credit here
    ——————
    +1
    __________

    Saying they aren’t very good is just false. They have more depth than most teams and have the highest payroll…You would be hard pressed to find better overall rosters than the Yankees (in your last year’s comment) to manage.

  213. blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    “For anyone to translate the ‘Nix is a good utility guy who is better at 3rd than SS’ into ‘the second coming of Brooks Robinson’ means they either
    1. Have an agenda
    2. Need new glasses or
    3. Reading comprehension isn’t one of their strengths.”

    4. They stayed at a hyperbolic chamber last night

  214. MG April 28th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    some of you ignore the way the Yankes reworked Nunez’ throwing motion this spring, they couldn’t do that during the season, particularly since he admittedly ‘pushed back’ against he changes, he’s probably been doing that for quite awhile:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....EeCjFFnANL

    In the beginning of camp, Eduardo Nunez was reticent about the changes Mick Kelleher was attempting to make with his throwing motion.

    Kelleher, a former big league infielder and current Yankees first base coach, decided before camp opened a change to the error-prone Nunez’s throwing motion had to be made.

    “In my opinion and Joe [Girardi’s] opinion, something had to change,’’ Kelleher said. “To play shortstop you have to be an accurate thrower. It wasn’t about catching the ball, it wasn’t that.’’

    So, Kelleher was entrusted with making Nunez’s above-average arm — in terms of strength — more accurate.

    “Before my arm action was long, never short,’’ said Nunez, who made seven errors at three positions last season, four of those on throws. “All my life it was long. Now it’s short and it feels good so far.’’

    PHOTOS: YANKEES SPRING TRAINING

    Nunez admitted the change wasn’t easy.

    “It was uncomfortable,’’ said Nunez, who used to catch the ball and swing his arm around the back of his body before releasing it. “Now, it’s much better. I have worked on it since the first day of camp. The first few days of camp it was really bad. Now it feels better. I have made the adjustment.’’

    Kelleher got Nunez to catch the ball and bring his arm to shoulder level before releasing. His belief was Nunez wouldn’t suffer a decrease in arm strength while trying to be more accurate.

    “We worked on it every day since he got here,’’ Kelleher said. “We wanted him to throw like [Derek] Jeter throws, like Robbie [Cano] throws. We wanted him to shorten it up.’’

    As a roving infield instructor for the Yankees from 2006-08 Kelleher worked with Nunez on shortening the arm action, but when Kelleher was added to Girardi’s staff in 2009, Nunez went back to throwing the long way.

  215. 86w183 April 28th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Tar, they took unnecessarily long to put Nunez back in the lineup in 2012.

    ***************************************************************************

    Au Contraire’

    Nunez injured his thumb… that’s why he was out so long. they sent him to Scranton to get regular work at SS and he got hurt.

  216. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Cashman is a good at dumpster diving/scrap heap finding. He’s done this for quite a few years, so I don’t think it’s a fluke or luck.

    Having said that he over paid for Wells and Youk. And I know the argument about Wells and his salary breakdown.

  217. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Also, you can’t say Nunez is better at SS if he stops making errors…that is like saying if Hughes stops throwing fat pitches he will be a good pitcher.

  218. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Who said it is Long’s magic? But he has gotten the grief, so let’s give KLong some credit. Also with tweaking Youk’s stance. As for other players shortening up, obviously they have to buy into the shorter swing. Wells was addressing the swing in ST, well knowing that the hero swings were affecting his results. He also knew he had to hit more for average at NYS, unlike in Toronto, as NYS is not a park that would be kind to a homerun swing from a righty. So, what is your objection again?

  219. comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    MG, had you been more observant you might have noticed the smiley face, which generally denotes an observation is exaggerated for effect.

    The comment about the Nix devotion on this blog are not however exaggerated!

  220. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    “Tar, they took unnecessarily long to put Nunez back in the lineup in 2012.”

    Exactly. And it may have cost them, but well never know now.

  221. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    86, Nunez was ready to return long before that first game he was put into in Sept. That was one of my complaints last year.

  222. jacksquat April 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    KLong should get a lot of credit for the Ab’s this year (just as he’s gotten the criticism in the past) for implementing the shorter swings that players like Haf and Wells are buying into.

    Long worked with Youk, but Wells had changed his swing before he came to the Yankees, and that’s why he had a good spring training, and probably why they took a chance on him.

  223. Madrugador April 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    I like oxygen as much as the next guy but Nix is a good utility guy, end of story.

  224. GregD April 28th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    I don’t get the certainty that I hear that Adams will hit major league, I didn’t see it in ST the last two years. Lets see if he is still hitting (and playing) after a half year in SWB

  225. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    86, FTR, Eduardo was back playing after the injury on July 17 (at SWB); the Yankees didn’t get him into an mlb game until Sept. 1.

  226. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    Randy, JR has had great AB’s going back to last year, and has been my rising catcher to watch. I can’t say enough about how he has progressed behind the plate. As I have said he is the guy that i like most after Sanchez. Glad to see Romine get a shot, hopefully catching Hughes today, a pitcher he knows and certainly can call a good game for.
    ///

    JR has always been the better hitter between he and Romine, and I like Romine well enough, but since seeing Murphy could catch, which was in evidence in his half year in 2012 at Waterfront Park, that was all I needed to see to tip the balance dramatically in JR’s favor on who I liked better, as we both have noted many times.

    Last year, he came a long way behind the plate as well, which is why his BA suffered, although, he was still collecting XBH even during a year where learning to catch was his primary focus.

    But his hitting was there the first time we got to see him, that day in Lakewood two years ago, when he had the day from hell behind the plate – culminating in just windmilling and missing that perfect one-bounce throw from DeLeon in RF which would have easily had the runner, since he just needed to sweep tag him and wouldn’t have even had to move his feet.

    But that day, he (and Flores) were to most professional looking hitters on the field. Both those guys, even now, to me, are the most polished hitters on the Trenton team.

    The one thing that has change for Murphy is the power surge.

  227. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    JS, Wells was tweaking his swing beforehand. That is true.

  228. comnsnse April 28th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Yankee feminista, it really shows with Youk, not!

    As for my objection , it remains the same, please advise where you saw that both Hafner and Wells have credited Long for anything?

    You do an awful lot of interpreting of other folks motives to make your point.

    These are not facts in evidence!

  229. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Sorry, that post on JR Murphy was directed to Yankeefeminista :D

  230. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:53 am

    cmnsnse, I do an awful lot of interpreting? When? Where? In this instance? Other examples? Huh?

  231. blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    The Genius Maker says:
    April 28, 2013 at 10:46 am
    Also, you can’t say Nunez is better at SS if he stops making errors…that is like saying if Hughes stops throwing fat pitches he will be a good pitcher.

    Hughes is a good pitcher….and sure you can ….he’s got a lot more range and Nix isn’t really a SS. Neither is ideal but Nunez can’t play multiple spots and Nix can. Nunie has been better defensively so far this year…..

  232. jacksquat April 28th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Although Long could be having further positive impact on Wells’ swing, but you could see the more direct path to the ball when he first got here.

    I wish Tex would agree to Long breaking down and completely rebuilding his lefthanded swing. Tex acts like he is an old dog that can’t learn a new trick, but Youk and Wells are older and they did it. Tex is just stubborn and apparently ignorant of his problems.

  233. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Tar April 28th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    “Tar, they took unnecessarily long to put Nunez back in the lineup in 2012.”

    Exactly. And it may have cost them, but well never know now.
    ///

    Agree. They also had that weird flirtation with him as a COF, even though he saw no reps there in ST or prior that I ever heard of , and then Cashman comes out with him not having enough slug to play COF (well, then, genius, why’d you throw him in LF in the show when you’d given him no reps there, if you didn’t think he projected well there??)

  234. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Unfortunately (or fortunately), I have to head to the ballpark, but Long simplified Hafner’s mechanics. Go look it up; I don’t have time to find and link it. And he tweaked Youk. I will give you Wells.

    blake, yeah, hoping the weather is a little warmer for JRam– getting the earlier start vs. coming into a game at 9PM. He said that he isn’t used to the cold and that it bothered him.

    Pruf, JR has been a pleasure to watch. Love the AB’s and that nice low throw to the first base side when he is attempting to throw out runners.

  235. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 10:59 am

    You do an awful lot of interpreting of other folks motives to make your point.
    ///

    cmmnsnse, she does?? I think you have her mixed up with someone else.

    YF, as much as anyone here, backs up what she says. Maybe you’re confusing her with someone else…

  236. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    JS, I agree about Wells’ shorter path to ball upon his arrival. But think generally KLong has have an impact his year with hitters who have agreed to be mentored.

    As for Haf, can’t find the other story I read, but here’s this:

    “Long has worked extensively with Hafner this spring to get those mechanics straightened out. Hafner’s results don’t show it — he’s 3-for-20 (.150) so far this spring — but he’s beginning to feel more comfortable with the changes he and his hitting coach have made.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z2RlooSmsS

    Gotta go. Go Huuughes! Go Yanks!

  237. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Wells on Long

    Starting about 1:40

    http://web.yesnetwork.com/medi.....d=26637001

  238. UnKnown April 28th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    So, Kelleher was entrusted with making Nunez’s above-average arm — in terms of strength — more accurate.
    ———

    Kelleher is a super cool guy. I’ve chatted with him a few times on Yankees road trips and he always seems enthusiastic and just a pleasant man. Love me some Kelleher.

    Go Yanks, get those brooms out today. Been a great season so far. Win today and string a nice long streak together with the Stros up next.

  239. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    GregD April 28th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    I don’t get the certainty that I hear that Adams will hit major league, I didn’t see it in ST the last two years. Lets see if he is still hitting (and playing) after a half year in SWB
    ///

    He has a textbook swing, hits for average, walks, hits for some power, hits both lefties and righties.

  240. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Blake, Hughes is a good pitcher? I am not sure I would say that. His lifetime ERA is 4.42, that is not good (not bad either). This year his ERA is 5.14, so he is not good (hopefully yet). But I disagree you can go ahead and say if Nunez stops making errors he is “insert word of choice.” It is too broad. That being said, I wrote above Nunez should be at SS over Nix without question. Nix has no upside, Nunez does. I also felt that the Jeter injury might be a blessing in disguise for the yanks as Nunez has far more range than the statuesque Jeter. The play Nunez made up the middle the other day jeter has never made in his entire career, let alone at his age now. The Yanks have done an awful job of letting youth play in spots instead of signing the Ichiro’s of the world…Nunez was a time (as was cervelli this year) where they did make those decisions correctly. Nunez has not been good overall so far, but cervelli was off to a great start

  241. Madrugador April 28th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    I am not so sure Hughes is a good pitcher. I’d much rather have a pitcher throwing ground balls than fly balls that sometimes turn into home runs and Hughes is a fly ball pitcher. He has another chance today against a home run hitting team.

  242. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Madrugador April 28th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    I like oxygen as much as the next guy but Nix is a good utility guy, end of story.
    ///

    The problem is not that he’s not an OK utility guy, it’s that they begin to over-use these types, and expand their role beyond the player’s scope because they don’t want to promote better offensive guys (Mustelier, Adams).

  243. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 11:07 am

    I know it doesn’t always work out that well but I think Long knows what he is doing and is a pretty good hitting coach.

  244. yankeefeminista April 28th, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Thanks for that Bo. Enjoy the game. Heading to the Bronx!

  245. yankee21 April 28th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Range-wise Nunez has really shined- he is covering a lot of ground. To me he still looks tentative in his throws even when the situation calls for him to let loose. Bottom line defensively I still consider him a work in progress as a SS.

    Offensively, he looks totally out of whack at the plate without a plan. When he gets on he is also not running as much as prior years.

    Overall, he has been an unexpected disappointment and he really needs to step up his overall game.

  246. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    One other negative in the Girardi file for me was letting Lary Bowa go and then not only installing Robby Thomson, but keeping him year after year of getting guys thrown out with 1 out of less. RT is simply a base 3rd base coach and Girardi should have moved on that two years ago…of course he should have retained Bowa

  247. 86w183 April 28th, 2013 at 11:09 am

    Yankeefeminista —–

    I know Nunez was back playing before Sept 1, but he was not ready to help the Yankees.

    He had not played well (.544 OPS, 5 E in 35 games @ Scranton) and there was no reason to put him on the 25-man roster.

  248. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Hughes’ slider last time out was really good. I am excited to see that again today.

    YF, enjoy the game!

    I thought about going today, because we don’t know if we’re going to see Hughes in a Yankee uniform much longer – and I thought, since Joba got yesterday’s save, that I might have an opportunity to see Rivera (who we KNOW isn’t going to be in pinstripes after this year), but because I’m seeing Jo-Ram on Wednesday :D and heading down to Lakewood for DePaula, and may be headed to Long Island if the Islanders finish eighth and play us in the first round.

    I doubt I’ll get out there before June. Go PJ!

  249. blake April 28th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    ” I wrote above Nunez should be at SS over Nix without question. Nix has no upside, Nunez does”

    So we agree

  250. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    BTW, while Thomson has us thrown out at home with 1 out a lot, I know that stats show that over his 3 years (and not including this year) the Yanks were thrown out at home the 3rd most times in baseball with nobody out. the two teams that were worse were Boston and Minnesota.

  251. The Genius Maker April 28th, 2013 at 11:12 am

    yes

  252. 86w183 April 28th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    I disagree about letting Bowa go being a mistake.

    I have tons of respect for him, but Bowa was Torre’s confidant/right hand man. It would be very risky to keep your predecessor’s bench coach when the departure was as acrimonious as Torre’s was.

    I agree on Thomson.

  253. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    “The problem is not that he’s not an OK utility guy, it’s that they begin to over-use these types, and expand their role beyond the player’s scope because they don’t want to promote better offensive guys (Mustelier, Adams).”

    Yep. They find comfort with these “ok” older guys and are unwilling to give younger upside guys a chance. That’s it in a nutshell for me.

  254. Bo knows April 28th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    BTW, while Thomson has us thrown out at home with 1 out a lot, I know that stats show that over his 3 years (and not including this year) the Yanks were thrown out at home the 3rd most times in baseball with nobody out. the two teams that were worse were Boston and Minnesota.
    ———
    I realized Thomson was bad but that sums it up. I miss Bowa too.

  255. RadioKev April 28th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    blake April 28th, 2013 at 10:29 am
    You can sit and nit pick every manager and say they could have done things differently…..but Girardi managed a team last year to 95 wins that honestly wasn’t that good and he’s got a bunch of retreads playing pretty well this year…..he has to get some credit here
    ———-

    I like Girardi a lot. He’s very methodical, and I think is a benefit over the course of the season.

    I know we’ve groaned about Ben Francisco, but Girardi gave him his time to show something. He was very patient, but now he’s going to go to Hafner a little more, making that adjustment.

    Chad’s said it before, Girardi always has a reason when he does something. I personally like that more than some of the other managerial styles out there.

  256. blake April 28th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    I know we’ve groaned about Ben Francisco, but Girardi gave him his time to show something. He was very patient, but now he’s going to go to Hafner a little more, making that adjustment.”

    Yup….April is for seeing what the guys you have can do…..he had to see

  257. Tar April 28th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    “The Genius Maker says:
    April 28, 2013 at 11:12 am
    BTW, while Thomson has us thrown out at home with 1 out a lot, I know that stats show that over his 3 years (and not including this year) the Yanks were thrown out at home the 3rd most times in baseball with nobody out. the two teams that were worse were Boston and Minnesota.”

    Do you have a link for that info. I would like to check out the whole list. Thanks

  258. Madrugador April 28th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    JAP

    I agree with you. My definition of a utility guy includes that he doesn’t play every day. He fills in when and where you need him. He doesn’t and shouldn’t replace a regular because he is just a utility guy. In that sense of the job, Nix fits the bill and I think since he signed for less than $1M, he fits Hal and Hank’s bill too.

  259. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Tar April 28th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    “The problem is not that he’s not an OK utility guy, it’s that they begin to over-use these types, and expand their role beyond the player’s scope because they don’t want to promote better offensive guys (Mustelier, Adams).”

    Yep. They find comfort with these “ok” older guys and are unwilling to give younger upside guys a chance. That’s it in a nutshell for me.
    ///

    Yep, that’s been the issue for a few years, and that’s the gripe with a lot of us: context.

    They stick with mediocrity because it’s “battle tested” rather “risk” the talent in potentia. Just the way these guys are. Let’s see how much of a chance Romine actually gets, now that he’s here.

  260. J. Alfred Prufrock April 28th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Madrugador April 28th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    JAP

    I agree with you. My definition of a utility guy includes that he doesn’t play every day. He fills in when and where you need him. He doesn’t and shouldn’t replace a regular because he is just a utility guy.
    ///

    yeah exactly… and also should not pre-empt a player who is younger/better whose time has come, but this is what they do – they’ll put a mediocre/limited “veteran” in the way of a younger player’s path to avoid leavening an established lineup with youth/batspeed/athletic ability….

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