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Yankees postgame: What’s up with Pettitte?

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 05, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Andy PettitteAndy Pettitte was frustrated after this 5-4 loss to the A’s. The 40-year-old lefty began the season with four straight quality starts. But now he has had two off outings in a row.

This one came with four runs, four hits and four walks allowed in five innings, plus he hit a batter. He served up two homers. There were 100 pitches, just 57 for strikes.

“It’s a struggle,” Pettitte said. “The issue is everything. Everything I’ve got to do as a starting pitcher, I’m not able to do right now. … My release point is floating around a little bit. … It’s been a long, long time since I haven’t had a feeling for my pitches.”

Pettitte is good at being brutally frank when it comes to self-assessments.

“My cutter is nonexistent right now,” Pettitte said.

Joe Girardi said he wasn’t going to make a big deal out of two bad starts. Pettitte is just hoping to find a steady release point in a hurry.

“I wish I could tell you something hurt,” Pettitte said. “But I feel good.”

So did Preston Claiborne. The 25-year-old righty looked great in his major-league debut, throwing two perfect innings.

“This was a big game, the biggest one so far of my life,” Claiborne said. “I knew that when I took the mound, it was just playing baseball again.  So I tried to keep that in mind and went out there and tried to just execute pitches as best I could.”

Vernon Wells didn’t execute with two on and two outs in the last of the ninth, going down swinging against Grant Balfour.

“It was shaping up to be one of those memorable Yankee Stadium moments,” Wells said. “I didn’t come through. I’ll have to wait for next time for that moment to happen.”

Eduardo Nunez is day-to-day after leaving with tightness in the front of his left rib cage. An MRI came back negative. Girardi wasn’t sure that he would have the shortstop for Tuesday night’s series opener in Colorado.

Robinson Cano went 2 for 4 with an intentional walk and now has 1,499 career hits.

Cody Eppley cleared waivers and was outrighted to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

 

 

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378 Responses to “Yankees postgame: What’s up with Pettitte?”

  1. Niblick May 5th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Let’s all blame it on poor Romine. He will be forever known as the catcher who finally brought down Pettitte. (Of course, it couldn’t be Pettitte’s age, or mechanical problems, or back, could it?)

  2. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    If not for good pitching, this team would be gasping for air.
    Andy was not himself again, funny how 1 game can set a pitcher off his path, they are so fragile.
    He kept them in it and the 3 run inning to tie it was great.
    A Cano error gave them an extra run and a Logan fail ended it.
    Claiborn was great and deserves a shot at the 8th inning.

  3. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    I thought maybe Andy was having another back issue but he ruled that out with his comments.

  4. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    SWB RailRiders @swbrailriders

    Ronnier Mustelier breaks the draw quickly, as he homers and gives the RailRiders a 2-1 advantage in the bottom of the sixth.

  5. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    The # of injuries the Yankees are experiencing is just brutal.

    :(

  6. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Andy seems to go thru this every season.
    He loses it for a while, they all do.
    I do think he lost his rhythm in the Romine game, as evidently Girardi does.

    Athletes are fragile. The same thing happened to the Knicks.
    They got taken out of their rhythm when Smith took a swipe at Terry.
    Now they are slumping.

  7. fantasygame101 May 5th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    I guess it is still romine’s fault bec. he is on the bench watching. Or do we need to have a catcher’s audition tomorrow bec. andy struggled again? To fix a problem, one must acknowledge the problem so maybe now they can fix the problem which is the pitcher and not the catcher.

    Eppley cleared waiver and I am not surprise. If only the Yankees were not so high on him, we may have adams in the lineup instead of nix striking out and popping out in crucial situation.

  8. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    As soon as Ronnier has had enough AB’s he should be brought up.

    He is versatile. Plays 3B and both corner spots.

    IMO he can help.

    Too bad Nelson does not have any options left.

    Another guy who was thrown into the deep end.

  9. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    MTU-Are these injuries a coincidence or are there other factors involved?

  10. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Mick-

    I don’t know but I’ve never seen such a bad streak.

    What do you think ?

  11. fantasygame101 May 5th, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Nunez is so fragile or what? too bad Ibarra got hurt, he was playing well.

  12. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    mtu
    i thought last year was bad.
    i dont like another day off tomorrow.
    it throws me off my schedule.
    some of the injuries are game related like grandys & drob but some could related to other things.

  13. fantasygame101 May 5th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Joba and nunez are fragile. Youk has this problem for so long now. Tex maybe pushed him too hard to be ready for wbc and also not young. Lastly, they are fielding an old team which by nature is susceptible to injuries and will not heal fast.

  14. blake May 5th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Have they said what’s up with Nunie yet?

  15. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Nelson can’t be sent down?

  16. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    nunney has a sore rib cage day to day

  17. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Mick-

    I do not believe Nelson has options.

    A poster mentioned that the other day in response to my query on it.

  18. blake May 5th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Most teams would have folded like a cheap tent with this many injuries

  19. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    I remember one year during ST they had a rash of hamstring injuries.

    I think it led to the firing of a conditioning coach.

    I wonder if our guys are not getting proper training again ?

    Some of it is game related. Some of it is age related. The rest ?

  20. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    kaye went crazy after the wild pitch advanced gardner in the 9th with cano up.
    2 seconds earlier he said no way gardy should try to steal as they would walk cano.
    he has too much time on his hands ….
    i saw a game with pinella, singleton and cone when they were on the road and they were seamless.
    just went along with the game, let it breath…
    it wasn’t like overhearing a conversation while your trying to watch a game.

  21. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    The rest ?
    =======
    chemicals?

  22. blake May 5th, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Overbay has played terrific for the yanks….

  23. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    why is buccholz dousing himself with cups of water before he goes out to the mound every inning?
    schilling seems to know every trick in the book about cheating as he described them on espn.
    he has to be challenged on this water usage.

  24. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    i would hate to lose overbay when tex comes back as we dont know how long he will last.

  25. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    i was at the game sat and some fans? behind me were going on and on about their past it was hard to watch the game.

    its like talking during a movie.

  26. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 5th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    “If not for good pitching, this team would be gasping for air.

    Andy was not himself again, funny how 1 game can set a pitcher off his path, they are so fragile.”

    I couldn’t agree with you more mick. I’m always so happy when you vibe in on the human elements of the game because I believe it’s important to take into account those factors as well as the mechanical factors of baseball.

    Good job.

    :)

  27. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    so now on espn they are saying gardner should have stayed on 1st on the wild pitch, so that they would pitch to cano…never have seen that

  28. mick May 5th, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    athletes are fragile but machine like when they are at their best.

  29. blake May 5th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    If Andy is healthy I don’t worry about him….he will figure it out

  30. mick May 5th, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    their timely hitting wouldn’t be timely if their pitching didn’t keep them in the game.
    this loss of drob is bothersome as we saw what logan and kelley have done lately.
    next time i see claiborn getting a shot in the 8th
    and when drob gets back claiborn to the 7th
    then trade joba.

  31. blake May 5th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    @mikeaxisa: The Rockies as a team have a .308/.375/.506 batting line at Coors Field all-time. That’s over 57,000 plate appearances since 1995.

    That’s crazy

  32. mick May 5th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    andy will indeed figure it out but its too bad as he was mechanically perfect.
    its amazing how they can lose it so quickly
    hard to understand

  33. comet May 5th, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Jmills my taste in music runs towards artists like Harry Chapin. There was a guy who could tell a story. WOLD, Taxi, Sequel, Old College Avenue!

  34. Tar May 5th, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    @mikeaxisa: The Rockies as a team have a .308/.375/.506 batting line at Coors Field all-time. That’s over 57,000 plate appearances since 1995.

    That’s crazy”

    That is insane. Especially when you consider the fact that they don’t have a DH.

  35. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Maybe that humidor at Coors doesn’t work ?

    ;)

  36. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 5th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    “athletes are fragile but machine like when they are at their best.”

    Good description.

    “If Andy is healthy I don’t worry about him….he will figure it out”

    Absolutely agree.

  37. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    Sux lost.

    :)

  38. comet May 5th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Hey MTU! There’s always something good happening, now isn’t there!

  39. Madrugador May 5th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    It has come to Jason Nix up in the sixth with one out and runners on second and third, down two runs? Strike out. It has come to Jason Nix up with runners on first and second with one out down one run? Strike out.
    It is not Nix’s fault, he is only a utility player. He is the ever ready back up who can play multiple positions when you need him to do so but there is no other choice at the moment and that is hard to watch.

  40. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Greeting Comet.

    That’s tonight’s consolation prize.

    Also, Sux have lost 3 in a row.

  41. tomingeorgia May 5th, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    comet and MTU,
    The sun came out late this afternoon after 6 days or heavy rain, and the temperature finally broke 60. Supposed to still be clear at sunrise. There are always good things happening!

  42. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    Tom-

    Is your Daughter getting hitched ?

    If so, Congratulations.

    :)

  43. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 5th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    “Sux lost.

    :)

    “Also, Sux have lost 3 in a row.”

    Baseball gods do NOT like spitballs, foreign shiny substances on the forearm, and baseball commissioners who don’t worry about the integrity of the game but are happy to ignore anything going on with their good pals’ teams.

    :D

    Justice!

  44. tomingeorgia May 5th, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    MTU,
    Step daughter, but I love her big time. You know what the problem is? They wouldn’t hire Reverend Tom to do the deal.

  45. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Tom-

    I was wondering.

    There’s probably isn’t a shotgun wedding though. That might explain it.

    :)

  46. blake May 5th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Yea Nix is getting exposed big time because he’s playing way more than he should have to…..problem is they don’t have much choice and if Nunez is hurt now it’s even worse

  47. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    Watching the LA- Giants game.

    Guess who I just saw umpiring ?

    That’s right. Cowboy Joe Worst.

    I was hoping he’d trip on top of a hill somewhere and just keep on rolling.

    :(

  48. comet May 5th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Hey Tom big trip this week. Are you going to do it over one or two days! And congratulations!

  49. tomingeorgia May 5th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    MTU,
    No, it’s a full-boat Poconos deal with a cast of thousands. Colossal waste of money, but her birth father is paying the bill, so I can’t complain. I’ll be eating his food, drinking his booze, otherwise standing where I’m supposed to stand, toasting when I’m supposed to toast, trying to avoid the inevitable bickering from his new wife, and being thankful he had such poor judgment as to make the now Mrs Tom available to me.

  50. tomingeorgia May 5th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    comet,
    Two days on the road, both ways. There was a time I’d do it in a day, still could, but the old eyes hurt after six or seven hours, as well as the bones, as well as Mrs. Tom’s endurance.

  51. Madrugador May 5th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Mazel Tov Tomingeorgia. It is always wonderful to celebrate such happy events.

    Musty (can’t play SS) seems rusty but he hasn’t played more than a few games yet. Do Adams or Joseph play any SS?

  52. comet May 5th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....d/follows/

  53. Chip May 5th, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Blake -

    100% correct – With Nunez out for a few days at least we’re going to be seeing more of Nix and that’s not a good thing. Unfortunately there aren’t any options in the minors to come up (who would have ever thought I would be missing Ramiro Pena?)

    On another note though – Mike Axisa notes that in today’s DH in Scranton Mustelier played RF and wonders how much longer Ben Francisco has in pin stripes.

    I guess Chris Nelson could play a little SS with Musty at 3b…that would be alright.

  54. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Madrugador-

    No.

  55. blake May 5th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    “On another note though – Mike Axisa notes that in today’s DH in Scranton Mustelier played RF and wonders how much longer Ben Francisco has in pin stripes.”

    If think his days are numbered

  56. Shame Spencer May 5th, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    I’m sad to lose this series.. but I’m more worried about the new injuries. People thought we were snake bitten last year… eesh.

    Does Romine get a start tomorrow with Stewie getting a built in day off? Should be fun to speculate tomorrow lol.

    There’s gotta be a roster shuffle coming soon.

  57. Captain Clutch May 5th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Hopefully the Yanks are planning to bring up Musty and Adams. Francisco’s days are definitely numbered and Boesch also has minor league options if they choose to go that way. Nelson is probably just here for the time being until the other guys are ready.

  58. Captain Clutch May 5th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Girardi said that Romine will start a game against the Rockies. I would think starting him with Kuroda and CC on the mound would be ideal. When those guys are going good anyone can catch them. The only way for him to learn the pitchers is to let him actually go out there and catch.

  59. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Romine.

    Who’s he ????

  60. j9d May 5th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Someone above said Nunez seems fragile. I love the guy but I agree. He seems awkward and unnatural avoiding tough pitches at the plate and otherwise. seems more that he is not agile enough to avoid injury inducing situations. Like he always bends the wrong way or is overly dramatic in his movements on close balls. Almost leaning into stuff.

  61. Madrugador May 5th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Colorado scores runs like Detroit. They also give up a lot. I am just not sure this team has the offensive punch to take advantage of that.
    We will see. Early as usual tomorrow. Night all.

  62. mick May 5th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    I guess Chris Nelson could play a little SS with Musty at 3b…that would be alright.
    ===================================
    Check out his numbers at SS on baseballref.com. I’m sure you’ll change your mind.

  63. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Halladay might have a torn labrum or rotator cuff.

    He’s experiencing should discomfort and is on his way to see Dr. Lewis Yocum.

    I hope not because at his age that will likely be the end of his career.

  64. mick May 5th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    right now guys like pronk, wells, overbay and stewart are carrying this team
    that won’t necessarily last
    so far injuries and desperation have dictated all moves
    it’s time to be proactive and call up Musty, then Adams on 5/15.
    cut or send down francisco and boesch as they serve no purpose.
    hopefully youk and grandy are back in a week or so.
    with nix at SS on Tues. , Musty must play 3rd.

  65. Josh Lueke fan May 5th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    hypothetically, this guy got off a plane from Oslo at 2pm EST, and headed straight to MSG for the Knicks game today. In this hypothetical situation, the referees cheated the Knicks repeatedly. Carmelo Anthony only had 1 free throw through 3 quarters, and that free throw came on a 16 foot jumper. While everyone on the Pacers, including the white loser Tyler Hansbrough could get free throws, Carmelo Anthony couldnt. Only in the 4th quarter when the Knicks were already down by 16 points did the referees start to call the game semi-fairly, then they reverted back to cheating us as soon as the Knicks cut it to a 8-10 point deficit. This guy got ejected from MSG with 30 seconds remaining after 2 warnings earlier for foul language, such as “murder the referees and their children” and “these pieces of c…su.king sh.. are cheating us.”

    At least the crowd chanted “these refs suck” on numerous occasions today. My favorite non foul calls on the Pacers came when Melo took it inside and got clobbered across the face, same thing happened with JR smith, and the call was just out of bounds NY ball.

    A sickening reality in which the Knicks will never win a championship, because referees refuse to call things fairly. They cheated us in every game in the first series, especially following the events of 4/15. When losers are getting more free throws than the league’s leading scorer Melo, there’s a real problem with these criminal referees. In this hypothetical situation, this guy only wishes he could end the life of every referee thats done his teams harm.

  66. Nilsson May 5th, 2013 at 10:00 pm

    Ah, the anonymity of the interweb. Nice classless diatribe.

  67. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    melo and JR are in choke mode presently and need to find a way to snap out of it.
    beating the celtics shouldn’t be the be-all end-all as they were talking championship
    just a week or so ago.
    its time to walk the walk and stop the posturing.
    JR was bad and they need to wake up.
    they haven’t been the same since he was suspended.

  68. Captain Clutch May 5th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Nunez is really hard to figure out. Who would think that now he can throw the ball but can’t hit. They obviously don’t have another option at SS but he has been very disappointing. At first I thought his hand was still bothering him he just seems lost at the plate.

  69. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    nunez has been serviceable and shows flashes at the plate.
    its hard to believe how valuable nix has become but he can’t play every position.
    i did see him working out at 1st before saturdays game.
    but we are running out of players…

  70. j9d May 5th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Agree Nunez is a puzzle. Nix is turning into a Gardner like player regarding situational hitting and good defense (emphasis on defense rather than hitting…but still).

  71. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    Musty, Adams,and Rapada can all help in various ways IMO.

    And Romine needs to play too.

    I’ve never seen a season with so many injuries, and so many to major players.

    Last year is starting to look good by comparison.

  72. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    In reality MTU if Nunez is out on Tuesday, Nix will play SS.
    I forgot about Nelson for 3B so forget the Musty idea.
    It is pathetic though, as they can’t be pinchhit for and who would replace them if injured?
    Musty should be brought up , if not just for necessity, any day now, and Francisco released.

  73. blake May 5th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    MTU,

    Sucks about Doc…..shows you have fast things can change with pitchers

  74. j9d May 5th, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Pathetic? Really?? Seems as if things have worked out pretty well.

  75. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    Blake-

    Yeah. I’m hoping against hope that it’s not what it looks like.

    Pain in the shoulder area w reduced velo is not a good sign.

    Mick-

    No other team could have sustained the injuries we have and stayed eevn remotely competitive.

    We need to get guys healthy pronto and get our regulars back in addition to giving our youngsters a shot.

  76. Jesus Bustero May 5th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    And what would that Knicks fan hypothetically do about the fact that JR Smith is a human chucking machine? And what would he do about his point guard who played nearly 40 minutes and recorded 3 assists? Did those losers have anything at all to do with the outcome of the game or was it totally controlled by the referees?

  77. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    right now, the only hitters we have are Hafner, Overbay, Ichiro, Gardner , Wells and of course Cano.

    it’s amazing how well we have done but that is b/c of the pitching.
    now the pen is wearing down.

    the regulars hopefully come back but that is a slow process.

    they need to make some additions now as this road trip could bring us back to .500.

  78. Jesus Bustero May 5th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    Mick we are 1.5 games out. By the time everyone returns we will be on top of the division handily. And we will have some surplus to make trades at the deadline and fill some spots long-term and for the post season.

  79. Benny Blanco May 5th, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    Darvish has struck out 72 batters in 7 starts. GOOD GRIEF! Thank the Lord the yankees didnt go after him.

  80. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    the formula to stop the knicks is to stop their 3 pt shooting.
    no team wins a championship by hitting 3′s.
    thats not basketball, it was a gimmick stolen from the aba.
    knicks can’t go inside on indy.
    the other thing that wins is defense and they only play that when they feel like it.
    the pacers and bulls play it all the time.
    knicks think they can turn it on and off.
    it doesn’t work that way in sports.

  81. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    jesus-
    how long do you expect this miracle they are perpetrating to last?
    nobody but grandy and maybe youk are returning soon.

  82. MTU May 5th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Good night all.

    See you on the sunnyside.

  83. Jesus Bustero May 5th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Grandy and Youk can make a world of difference. Joba, Robertson. If Nunez can turn it around then he will help to. The other hitters should stay around where they’re at: Cano, Wells, Hafner, Gardner, Ichiro.

    Then Pineda and Jeter will return.

    Then Cervelli will return.

    Even if Tex and Arod never return the team will be stacked.

    All the rest are expected to return.

  84. mick May 5th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    ok jesus that makes sense one day at a time good nite.

  85. Josh Lueke fan May 5th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    JR Smith played poorly, he’s back to taking poor quality shots. But ultimately, the game was decided by the referees.. Here’s why.

    The Pacers can go inside any time they want to offensively and the Knicks cant play any defense… because on most occasions, there will be a foul called, or they’ll make the basket…or both.

    While the Knicks – mainly Melo and Smith – cannot take the ball inside because the Pacers can rape the Knicks and not get fouls called against them.

    So, to sum it up, the Knicks cant play defense because of foul calls, and the Knicks are reduced to poor shots on the perimeter because they cant buy foul calls unless they’re down 16 points with a quarter remaining.

    Sound fair?

  86. yankeefeminista May 5th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    http://www.milb.com/news/artic.....8;sid=milb

    Betances, SWB article.

  87. J. Alfred Prufrock May 5th, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Thanks for posting Dellin story, Yankeefem.

    Betances moving sharply away from 2012 and closer to 2010. Still BB’ing guys, but they’re not going anywhere and he’s back to inducing weak groundballs and being basically unhittable :D

  88. yankeefeminista May 5th, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    The changeup is baaack!

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock May 5th, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    Yeah I guess it was his go-to pitch today. Was too consumed with the Penguins to pay much attention to him, but this outing and the last two seem to say he’s generally back.

  90. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 12:16 am

    This extreme complaining about refereeing sounds familiar…

  91. Jesus Bustero May 6th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    Do the Knicks even have an inside game? Don’t Melo and JR Smith just like to chuck from the perimeter regardless of what foul may or may not be called in the paint? Who do they have to deal with Hibbert and West?

    Don’t you think that from a player perspective this matchup is a bit of a mismatch to begin with? The refs couldn’t save them if their lives depended on it, literally.

  92. Josh Lueke fan May 6th, 2013 at 6:44 am

    That’s foolish. JR Smith’s and the Knicks’ late success were centered around JR Smith taking the ball in the lane and either making baskets or getting to the free throw line. The inside game has always been a part of Melo’s game. While Chandler and Martin are more than enough to deal with Hibbert and West on the defensive end. Unfortunately, the referees are going to call the game completely different for both teams, which leaves the Knicks with little chance. Make no mistake, the Knicks are the better team with more playmakers and adequate defense. Referees treat us fairly, we definitely win. The referees dont, we may still win, we may not.

    Yes, jacksquat. Didnt take a genius to figure it out.

  93. Josh Lueke fan May 6th, 2013 at 7:08 am

    Through 3 quarters, the Knicks had 13 free throw attempts to the Pacers 20, Carmelo had 1 free throw. 4 of those free throws came for Kenyon Martin, whom the referees know can only hit 1 free throw at best, most likely 0 free throws (essentially, a turnover). There’s no way Kenyon Martin should have 3 more free throws than Carmelo through 3 quarters, especially given the fact Carmelo took the ball inside 10+ times in that timeframe.

    Then when down by 16 entering the 4th quarter, the referees attempt to make things look fair (to people not skilled at seeing their cheating, like me). 10 free throws for the Knicks, 6 for Carmelo, and 6 for the Pacers.

  94. MTU May 6th, 2013 at 7:49 am

    OK.

    Who’s up ?

  95. tomingeorgia May 6th, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Morning, MTU!

  96. MTU May 6th, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Hey Tom.

    Thought you’d be on your way by now.

    :)

  97. tomingeorgia May 6th, 2013 at 8:21 am

    Departure put off til tomorrow. One less night in a hotel, which is fine with me.

  98. MTU May 6th, 2013 at 8:29 am

    Have a great trip Tom.

    Never been to that area of the country but I’m sure I’d love the Shenandoah Valley.

  99. Yankee Trader May 6th, 2013 at 8:34 am

    MTU and Tom-

    Good morning

  100. tomingeorgia May 6th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    MTU,
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