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Teixeira: “I don’t know how long it’s going to take”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 06, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mark TeixeiraDoesn’t happen often that the Yankees send an email to beat writers explaining media access for extended spring training games and workouts at the minor league complex.

But they sent that email yesterday.

It’s time for the Yankees to truly divide their attention between what’s happening with the big league club and what’s happening in Tampa. Curtis Granderson has been playing in extended spring training games for a few days now, and now Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Kevin Youkilis, Francisco Cervelli and Ivan Nova have flown to Florida to join him.

That group of newcomers won’t immediately jump into games — Rodriguez, in particular, is nowhere near game-ready — but those are some key players making significant steps down in the warm weather.

“I need my timing,” Teixeira said. “It could take 150 at bats — a lot of years it does — but I can’t answer (exactly how many at-bats are necessary). I don’t know how long it’s going to take. I’m sure between the doctors, the coaches, they’re all going to make sure that physically I’m all right, and then if the results are there. If I’m striking out and popping up every time up the first few games, they’re not going to be like, ‘All right, he feels good, so he’s ready.’ We’ll just kind of play that by ear.”

Return dates are still tough to predict. Granderson is actively playing in games, but even his timetable is unclear, Teixeira has guessed anywhere one week to three weeks before he’ll be ready to return, and Youkilis never thought he was heading for the disabled list to begin with. So there’s still some waiting to do, but there’s plenty of reason to keep our attention divided.

It’s going to be a slow process — Teixeira told reporters in Tampa that he’s not going to take batting practice on the field today — but there are at least some far-away signs of players beginning to get healthy.

“If we keep getting the pitching that we’re getting, it makes everyone’s job easier,” Teixeira said. “You guys have been around long enough, you know pitching is the name of the game. You have to score runs, but you don’t have to score 10 every night. If CC goes out and pitches a complete game and gives up one or two, we don’t have to score too much. When Curtis and I get back, and Alex and Youk and all these guys get back, we hope to score a lot of runs. We’re a team that is used to scoring a lot of runs. We’ve been doing a great job so far.”

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331 Responses to “Teixeira: “I don’t know how long it’s going to take””

  1. 4TrainNorth May 6th, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Tex already managing expectations instead of just playing ball.

  2. Carly May 6th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Keep it up Zolio; he made the prospect notebook at baseball america this morning :)

    Zoilo Almonte, of, Yankees: Almonte had a solid 2012 season with Double-A Trenton, but his subpar pitch recognition and free-swinging ways limited him to just 25 walks in 106 games. That’s why the improvement in his plate patience has been so jarring, as the 23-year-old switch-hitter has already walked 17 times in 28 games and is hitting .293/.393/.455 for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Apply the obvious small-sample caveats, but an improved hitting approach could take Almonte from a longshot prospect to someone who has a chance to have a major league role in the near future.

  3. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    If I’m striking out and popping up every time up…

    then it’s just like the regular season.

  4. fantasygame101 May 6th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    My problem with this injured player is I am seeing nix instead of adams or musty. Kelly instead of Claiborne or monty in crucial situation. Logan instead of a future lefty. Also nuno is being use sparingly which sets him up to fail. Plus may I add stewart over romine

  5. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Unfortunately Zoilo too often doesn’t look good tracking fly balls.

  6. Hassey May 6th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    the only two hurt guys we need back are Jeter and Musty

  7. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Everyone should stop crying about Romine. He is not a top prospect. He was not called up because of how he was playing in the minors, he was called up only because of an injury. He is going to be worked in as a backup.

  8. bruceb May 6th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Interesting road trip coming up. The Rockies (along with the Tigers) have the highest team hitting average (.285) and the Royals (.272) the fourth highest so it’s going to be a real test for our pitchers to keep both lineups in check.

    The Yanks have actually hit better on the road than at home so far but I have my doubts whether we are going to be able of maintaining our current production. I just can’t see us winning a 9-7 or 9-8 game right now.

  9. bruceb May 6th, 2013 at 11:58 am

    typo edit: able to maintain

  10. Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Does Romine have to be a top prospect to be put ahead of a career backup catcher on the depth chart?

  11. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 6th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    Jerkface, we need a bigger sample size with Romine to see how/if he hits and how he catches (both defensively and how he “handles” the staff) before that decision can confidently be made.

  12. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    He’s not going to be put ahead of an experienced major league catcher that already knows the pitchers, no, even if he should be a backup. He’s not Montero, he’s probably not even JR Murphy. I’m not saying he cannot be a good catcher, but he hasn’t done anything to deserve to be dropped into catching 3-4 times a week right away.

  13. Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Jerkface, we need a bigger sample size with Romine to see how/if he hits and how he catches (both defensively and how he “handles” the staff) before that decision can confidently be made.

    You can’t get a larger sample size without playing him. Prospects need to play.

  14. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 12:03 pm
    Does Romine have to be a top prospect to be put ahead of a career backup catcher on the depth chart?
    -
    I am surprised that it needs to be said, but…

  15. luis May 6th, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Good morning/afternoon guys,

    Sure, we have an inordinate amount of injuries… Some are part of the nature of the game, but some are the result of an old and declining roster… We have outperformed considering this.

    Claiborne impressed me yesterday… I hope they take notice of this kid and don’t bury him in the last BP spot… I would send down Nuno ( so he can keep starting and stretch out ) and bring Montgomery as well…Leave Warren in the long man role… As soon as Joba and Robertson are ready, I’ll either DFA or option down kelly… So you have a BP of Mo, Drob, Joba, Logan (LGY), Claiborne, Montgomery and Warren… Our pitching is the least of our
    problems.

    Is the offense that is the long term concern… I will DFA Francisco and bring up Musty… If the new Scrap heaptrade doesn’t hit, I’ll bring Adams

  16. Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Stewart is playing super out of his mind right now and still only hitting .256 .298 .395 .693. I don’t need Romine to be THE STARTER right away, but some playing time would be great. Don’t give me ‘learn the staff/ease him in’ excuses. Worse catchers than him with no experience catching Yankee pitchers have gotten more play time than him in the past.

  17. Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    I’m not even a fan of Romine at all, I thought it was stupid that the Yankees thought his existing made Montero tradable, but I’m super duper not a fan of stewart. Stewart brings very little to the table.

  18. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Carly May 6th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Keep it up Zolio; he made the prospect notebook at baseball america this morning :)
    ///

    Mr. Carly-Stoneburner,

    No one doubts Zoilo’s projectable bat.

    His problem – and it’s a big one – is his glove. That is the reason he is not on the ML roster. For the sake of his SH, it’s probably a good thing, because he has promise as a RHB also and that would be interfered with, with a too-soon call up.

    Almonte has not been iffy when he misjudges a flyball, he’s been outrageously, incomprehensibly awful.

    So enthusiasm for the power and doubles bat and the good arm and decent speed need to be tempered.

  19. blake May 6th, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    “I’m striking out and popping up every time up the first few games, they’re not going to be like, ‘All right, he feels good, so he’s ready.’ We’ll just kind of play that by ear.”

    Yea we won’t know he’s 100% until he’s also grounding out weakly into the shift as well

  20. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    One week to three weeks…?

    Lol, I’ll say he doesn’t get in an MLB game for at least 4.

  21. Bo knows May 6th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Okay, as I see it the catcher crunch is that all of the big three seem to be off, in the early innings. Two are struggling with their control throughout the games. To mess with them at this point, is kinda scary. So it comes down to priorities and the pitchers’ comfort zone.

    I’m on board with lettuce see the kid and don’t mess with the pitching at the same time. It’s a tough choice either way.

  22. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Stewart is playing super out of his mind right now and still only hitting .256 .298 .395 .693. I don’t need Romine to be THE STARTER right away, but some playing time would be great. Don’t give me ‘learn the staff/ease him in’ excuses. Worse catchers than him with no experience catching Yankee pitchers have gotten more play time than him in the past.

    ————

    I really thought we’d get a 2/3 split with Romine and Stewart.. Romine getting around 30% of the games. I think Joe said he plans to get Romine in the COL series…. but I assume that means one game. Hopefully he gets at least one in KC too, but with another off day next Monday Girardi might feel he can ride Stewie a little harder. (…hehehehe…)

  23. Mike in Harrisburg May 6th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    @Shame honestly what is he thinking saying one week minimum? Other than possibly it would be so ludicrous that everyone would disregard it, but still sounds good.

  24. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    They only need Tex back v. LHP.

  25. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Our pitchers wouldn’t be so pressed if this team could find a way to start scoring runs more consistently. They’re constantly battling, it seems like almost every single inning.

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Romine’s a decent prospect but when I saw JR Murphy’s bat at Lakewood, it was a no-brainer as to who had the (much) better bat, and since then, Murphy’s power has emerged.

    What happened since Lakewood is Murphy also quantum jumped his catching skills, so now, it’s even more of a no-brainer.

    Romine was jettisoned from another time zone to avoid the world coming to an end by having Montero catch a game, but now, Romine’s apparently too much of a liability defensively to have risked putting behind the plate, after one start.

    So maybe he’ll get a start in Colorado. That’s nice. Girardi’s certifiable with his catcher defense nonsense, because even though Stewart might make Hughes or Pettitte more comfortable (as there’s some familiarity there and he has done a nice job, on the whole so far this year behind the plate), the manager’s waaaay over-estimating the impact on “catcher defense” on a given game.

    I have no doubt that if a young Jorge Posada were in Romine’s place, they would have already privately decided that his catching skills were better suited to being trade bait, and that they could not “risk exposure”.

    I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused.

  27. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Mike in Harrisburg May 6th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    @Shame honestly what is he thinking saying one week minimum? Other than possibly it would be so ludicrous that everyone would disregard it, but still sounds good.

    ————————–

    I have no clue. Makes no sense to frame it that way when it’s not even in the realm of possibility at this point. Tex can take as long as he needs. I want Grandy, Jeter and Alex back.

  28. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    “I have no doubt that if a young Jorge Posada were in Romine’s place, they would have already privately decided that his catching skills were better suited to being trade bait, and that they could not “risk exposure”.”

    George almost traded him with Mo for David Wells.

  29. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Jeter being the most important of the 3, IMO.

  30. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    You all know how much I love that Tex has already given himself a 150 at bat cushion/excuse…ugh…

    Overbay does not and should not lose his roster spot to a guy who is only a better hitter than him against LHP. We play RHP a lot more than LHP. They have to figure out a way to keep Overbay here if Tex muscles his way back onto the roster.

  31. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    I think Alex and Jeter are co-important depending on what each has left.

  32. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Overbay .988 OPS vs rhp (.825 career). Tex last year vs rhp only .770. :(

  33. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    I just don’t get it because our actual back up started off playing this season in a 50/50 split… so the method of ‘folding Romine in as a back up’ still constitutes him getting a game a series.

  34. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    You all know how much I love that Tex has already given himself a 150 at bat cushion/excuse…ugh…

    ———————

    :lol:

    Yeah, the whole post reads like an advanced apology. Can’t wait until October when people talk about how ‘no one could have predicted’ Tex would take so long to regain his timing!!

  35. luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    “I have no doubt that if a young Jorge Posada were in Romine’s place, they would have already privately decided that his catching skills were better suited to being trade bait, and that they could not “risk exposure”.”

    George almost traded him with Mo for David Wells.

    ===============================

    Which makes my point about the Boss… We weren’t better of with him either ( well maybe, because at least he was willing to spend )… It took a guy like Michaels to build the dyinasty… We need someone like him to run the club

    Primo,

    Yup… It doesn’t amuses me, it saddens me

  36. Jerkface May 6th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Yeah, the whole post reads like an advanced apology. Can’t wait until October when people talk about how ‘no one could have predicted’ Tex would take so long to regain his timing!!

    This is my new favorite lohud meme.

  37. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    Source: Umpires and MLB watching clay Buchholz very closely tonight in start vs Twins after accused of doctoring ball by jays broadcasters
    _____

    Good. Maybe it’s perfectly legal, but his answer did not check out when asked about the substance on his arm. Watch the glow will be gone and he will get rocked.

  38. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    btw Overbay should be hitting 5th vs rhp right now, not Ichiro (who has/had recently a reverse split too boot). I know there is no pinch hitting possibility for Overbay atm if the other team brings in a lhp, but you have to beat the starter first, and Ichiro could only be pinch hit for by Francisco anyway…

  39. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    This is my new favorite lohud meme.

    ——————–

    It definitely became my favorite over the off season. I could probably reference it every day for the rest of forever and not get board with all of the things no one could have predicted (that were totally already predicted).

  40. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Hopefully Tex takes those 150 ABs in the minors.
    Do not bring him back until his timing is back or the max 30 days passes.
    We cannot lose Overbay’s surprising production for another Tex April/May epic fail!

  41. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    Shame,

    It’s going to be brutal, because even w/a healthy wrist he’s an excuse laden machine who isn’t what he was vs RHP. I really hope the front office doesn’t think he’ll add to ticket sales/attendance and want him back no matter what percentage he truly is at in his recovery.

    I know I’m being an alarmist/overly dramatic, but he’s like this dark cloud hovering over the team to me.

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    George almost traded him with Mo for David Wells.
    ///

    We needed a Stick-like protest in January of 2012, but judging from his comments, he was on board with that. Pity.

  43. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    btw Overbay should be hitting 5th vs rhp right now, not Ichiro (who has/had recently a reverse split too boot). I know there is no pinch hitting possibility for Overbay atm if the other team brings in a lhp, but you have to beat the starter first, and Ichiro could only be pinch hit for by Francisco anyway…
    ___

    Gardner-Ichiro-Cano should be the 1-2-3 no matter if it is a lefty or a righty.

  44. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    luis

    It depends on which George.

    The early one was good, despite the neurosis, because he turned around a moribund franchise with spending and good trades by Gabe Paul.

    The ’80s version became too full of himself and just made wild moves without a plan.

    Then, in the ’90s, after his suspension, and he had begun to mellow with age, he deserves credit for allowing himself to be reined in by Stick.

    The fruits of that plan are only now beginning to wither with age.

    But yeah, they need a long-term plan and the patience to implement it.

  45. jacksquat May 6th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    I’m fine with trying Ichiro in the #2 spot, I just don’t like him 5/6, he’s not that type of hitter.

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Can’t wait until October when people talk about how ‘no one could have predicted’ Tex would take so long to regain his timing!!
    ///

    :roll: It should really read: “No one who couldn’t have predicted Tex would take so long to regain his timing could have predicted it.”

  47. Mike in Harrisburg May 6th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    I hope the powers that be have the stones to ultimately play the hot hand, whoever it may be. I think Tex has earned the right to assume the starting role when he comes back (fully healthy). But it shouldn’t be considered his birthright just because of what he’s done in the past or how much he’s being paid.

  48. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Told you guys the Yanks were gonna “milk” out the TEX insurance $$$. 150 minor league AB’s??? CHA-CHING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  49. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    jacksquat – Totally agree on moving Overbay up vs RHP. He’s really doing a very fine job for us and I think hitting in the stadium is bringing back his confidence as a hitter.

    Seriously, we need to send the Red Sox a nice fruit basket for waiving him and not dealing him to the Brewers who were desperate for a stop gap 1b in spring training.

  50. 4TrainNorth May 6th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Pretty soon Tex will be talking about how his D helps “keep us in the game” and “gives us a chance to win.”

  51. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Yup… It doesn’t amuses me, it saddens me
    ///

    luis, sadness cannot sit without eventually transmuting, and mine has morphed into a nihilistic amusement. :D

  52. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    I hope the powers that be have the stones to ultimately play the hot hand, whoever it may be. I think Tex has earned the right to assume the starting role when he comes back (fully healthy). But it shouldn’t be considered his birthright just because of what he’s done in the past or how much he’s being paid.
    ___

    Agreed. I think he needs to show he can hit so he doesn’t jump into this lineup and hit .100 for his first 2 months back like he generally does every april and may.

    Regarding milking the insurance, he can only stay in the minors 30 days. Unless he is counting this Dl stint and extended workout in the 150 abs.

  53. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    jacksquat – Totally agree on moving Overbay up vs RHP. He’s really doing a very fine job for us and I think hitting in the stadium is bringing back his confidence as a hitter.
    ___

    Him and every other lefty on the back end of their career…

  54. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    A players “health” is supposed to dictate when he returns from the DL. NOT his “timing”. CHA-CHING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  55. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Seriously, we need to send the Red Sox a nice fruit basket for waiving him and not dealing him to the Brewers who were desperate for a stop gap 1b in spring training.

    ——————-

    How desperate..? Does the 1B need to come with both wrists?

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Overbay is killing it against RHP and although he has abject numbers vs. LHP, he had that very good AB against the lefty, the kind Tex appears to not even be physically capable of, much less willing to have.

  57. luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    No Donny,

    Most of those at bats will be at the MLB level… He is asking for patience once he is back here… Or as many put it here, He is already laying the ground to excuse his poor production… To think we are actually talking that Overbay is a better option at this point speaks volumes of what a lousy signing this guy has been

  58. Mike Ri May 6th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Tex is such a prima donna …

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    *I mean to say mindset and approach as a LHH vs. RHP, obviously Tex vs. LHP is fine, since his woes are as a lefty.

  60. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Overbay does not and should not lose his roster spot to a guy who is only a better hitter than him against LHP. We play RHP a lot more than LHP. They have to figure out a way to keep Overbay here if Tex muscles his way back onto the roster.”

    If Tex does come back at some point then Ovrtnay probably gets DFAd if Hafner is still healthy…..he just wouldn’t have anywhere to play even though he’s played well and deserves to stay

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    I don’t know if I would go so far to call him a primadonna, but he’s one of too many hitters who just won’t, and apparently can’t, make adjustments.

    It’s why what “couldn’t have been predicted” but which was predicted like all year last year about the 2012 postseason actually, y’know, came true.

  62. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    J.AP,

    Overbay’s a solid hitter with a good lefty swing that has some power but more brains/thought behind it. Plus his defense is Cano like at 1b.

    I think I was mentally done with Tex’s decline, especially the rapidity it occurred with after getting his mega contract.

    Overbay feels like Olerud-lite to me and for me, that’s more than enough at 1b considering the quality of the at bats we’ve had to grit our teeth through in the past couple of years vs. RHP.

  63. luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    luis

    It depends on which George.

    The early one was good, despite the neurosis, because he turned around a moribund franchise with spending and good trades by Gabe Paul.

    The ’80s version became too full of himself and just made wild moves without a plan.

    Then, in the ’90s, after his suspension, and he had begun to mellow with age, he deserves credit for allowing himself to be reined in by Stick.

    The fruits of that plan are only now beginning to wither with age.

    But yeah, they need a long-term plan and the patience to implement it.

    ================================

    And you honestly think you are not the smartest guy around? ;) Good post… It’s true, he rescued the team from oblivion in the 70′s… And had the sense to let Stick handle things… So he should be given credit for those things.

  64. mick May 6th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    How can we think of letting go of Overbay when/if Tex comes back.
    Too many ifs inc. his inability to hit lefty and a possible surgery which looms.
    He could be back a week and if Overbay is gone we are cooked.
    Platoon him at 1st and ease him back…

  65. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    I don’t hate Tex as a dude. He seems nice enough and all that. But the org was looking at cutting the budget and trying to keep this thing rolling… they should have explored moving him last year when the Dodgers showed interest. I understand the obstacles with the NTC but as I’ve said before I really think all that means is you have to make a trade based on the player’s wants and not the org’s…..as long as it mostly took that contract off the books it still would have been worth it.

  66. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Funny, luis!!!

  67. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Against RHP in a tough spot I’d want Cano up first and then right now, it’d be a tie between Overbay and Ichiro with a slight edge to Overbay if I’m being honest.

    And that includes all our walking wounded players who are out.

    If Tex was healthy, I’d rather let Stewie or Nix hit over him in the same scenario meaning, he’d be last.

  68. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    If they could get a healthy Jeter and an Arod that is just half of what he used to be back then that’d be most helpful….,,

    Austin might be starting to heat up at Trenton….he’s gonna hit I think soon

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    Overbay feels like Olerud-lite to me and for me, that’s more than enough at 1b considering the quality of the at bats we’ve had to grit our teeth through in the past couple of years vs. RHP.
    ///

    The “kid’s” alright :D. Impressive to stay within yourself and also be able to take advantage of the RF fence as a LHB. That’s kinda like what Jorge did his whole career as a LHH. Good, flexible approach.

    Olerud doesn’t go down maybe we get out of that ALCS in 2004…but that’s dead and buried.

  70. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    If they could keep Overbay and just cut down Tex’s ABs vs RHP instead of a straight platoon that’d help…..but they won’t ….when he’s ready Tex will play every day

  71. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    It is funny reminiscing about George.. the one thing I think could actually turn Cash’s legacy into something more than it is now would be for the next wave to pan out. If 3-4 of those guys end up being the high ceiling guys they’re projected to be, I could see the overall view of his tenure changing a bit.

  72. Mike in Harrisburg May 6th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    I don’t think they’ll consider letting Overbay go. I think he’s shown too much and Tex’s injury is too much of a question mark. I’m no medical scientitician but it seems to me that wrist injury is much more liable to deteriorate with use and relapse than, say Granderson’s broken bone.

  73. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    “If they could keep Overbay and just cut down Tex’s ABs vs RHP instead of a straight platoon that’d help…..but they won’t ….when he’s ready Tex will play every day”

    But as YT as pointed out, there is a risk of re-injury if Tex bats LH.

    And we need him batting RH.

    So for this year, why even bother given Overbay’s great platoon split?

  74. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Shame

    The next wave plus keeping Hughes long-term as a #3 or better.

  75. Mike Ri May 6th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    If Tex does come back at some point then Ovrtnay probably gets DFAd if Hafner is still healthy?..he just wouldn?t have anywhere to play even though he?s played well and deserves to stay

    —————-
    Man that would SUCK big time .. . .Overbay is such a quality player.. Plays hard , doesn’t make excuses ,

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    He had his faults, but George was genuinely energized by passionate disagreement. I don’t think he would have respected “YES” men (pun intended).

    The spirited, heated I”ll-hang-up-on-you-before-you-hang-up-on-me, I’ll-quit-before-you-can-fire-me feuds, only ending in George dialing back the hubris, are some of the greatest stories Stick tells whenever he’s interviewed. I never tire of them.

  77. mick May 6th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    .when he’s ready Tex will play every day”
    ========================
    but it will take 150 ab’s to get him ready.
    then he will need surgery.
    keep overbay on the bench / vs rh pitchers….need that bench prescense.

  78. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    But as YT as pointed out, there is a risk of re-injury if Tex bats LH.”

    Yea won’t shock me at all if he’s hurt again soon after he comes back….it’s taking him forever and he puts a ton of stress on that hand with his LH swing

  79. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Plus George gave us the phrase: “tanned and rested.”

  80. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Can musty play 1B vs LHP

  81. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Can musty play 1B vs LHP
    __

    So can Kevin Youkilis. He should be playing 1B more than 3B anyway to keep him healthier.

  82. luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Shame and Rich,’

    I am like St Thomas at this point… I want to see before I believe… His track record is not very good as of today, and his trades have shown how poor his talent evaluation tool is… Even Hughes success could be argued that it shouldn’t have taken this long… But I do hope that he has the guts to stick to this new wave and let it flourish.

  83. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    They probably win that game yestersay with their normal bullpen….this club can’t afford to lose games where the offense scores enough to win. They need to bring Montgomery up IMO until both Joba and Robertson are back and even then I think they should have the best arms out there possible…..

  84. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    I would do handstands if Cashman/Girardi said they were platooning Tex w/Overbay to protect his wrist against the dangers of swinging left handed.

    Francisco obviously is a goner when the next healthy body comes back and one of Nelson/Nix will go when Youk returns.

    I’m guessing, Boesch or Francisco go when Grandy returns and if Tex comes back the other could go if the Yankees decide a 4 man OF of Gardner, Ichiro, Wells and Grandy is enough with whoever is left from Nix/Nelson being the emergency 5th OF. Even Nunez/Youk could be an emergency 5th OF in order to keep Overbay on the roster.

    DFA’ing him would be the height of stupidity because he’s better than what’s coming back vs RHP and Tex’s wrist could pop at any moment and they’ll have no 1b.

    It’s too bad they weren’t developing a 1b in the upper minors who could’ve gotten this shot that they had option with.

  85. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Yea Youk can’t play 3B anymore…..he can stand over there but he’s bad defensively and it just makes him get hurt more .

  86. luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Go to go guys, later

  87. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 6th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    That’s basically what I meant, that you can’t really determine if his skills translate to him being the starting catcher until you have a larger sample size and cannot get one without playing him more. Imo, Denver would be a great place to give him some real playing time, e.g. starting him on consecutive days.

  88. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    G. Love says:
    May 6, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    I would do handstands if Cashman/Girardi said they were platooning Tex w/Overbay to protect his wrist against the dangers of swinging left handed.

    Lol…. Never happen. Texy will be right back in that 4 hole killing rallies every day. They do need him back vs lefties but they need the cap’n even more there

  89. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    The vast # of empty seats is getting to be pretty common Now. And until Wells batted in the 9th, those that were in attendance, were comatose. Hal is beginning to drag the Franchise down to the early 90′s level. We need a suspension ASAP.

  90. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    My biggest fear is Tex is going to push his way back on the roster, ignore wrist pain and then we waive Overbay only to have Tex complaining how the wrist isn’t close to 100% for why he’s struggling against RHP.

    The Yankees have to demand to see results in the rehab and watch this guy carefully to see if he’s covering up pain.

    The one promising thing Tex said was if he’s popping up and striking out all the time, it’ll take him some time to get back. I think he knows coming back and stinking is going to be a very tough pill to swallow after the way Overbay has performed.

  91. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Lol I see the malcontents are out in force, preaching to the choir. Always happens after a loss. How very intelligent. How’s your ongoing quest to get Cashman and Girardi fired going, Luis, Blake, rich, prufrock? Not very well, it would seem, as both your enemies still have jobs. Haha. Might want to try a method more effective than whining on a message board, kids!

  92. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Francisco obviously is a goner when the next healthy body comes back and one of Nelson/Nix will go when Youk returns.
    __

    The Nelson pick up made no sense. No options, and we will have him for all of 2 weeks because I do NOT believe Nix is going anywhere. He is a quality back up that is just playing too much now.

  93. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Or now that he’s thrown a few strikes and is on the 40 man lets put Betancss in the pen and see if he can help

  94. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Platooning a $20Mill+ Player? NOPE

  95. ac1 May 6th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Congrats to Zoilo Almonte, the International League Player of the Week for April 29-May 5 @swbrailriders
    ____

    Keep it up and you too will be blog conversation while Francisco and Boesch take up space on the roster.

  96. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    “How’s your ongoing quest to get Cashman and Girardi fired going, Luis, Blake, rich, prufrock? ”

    Stone….guess you missed the posts where I said Girardi has been great this year. I don’t really want either fired…..I might would fire the owner though if possible

  97. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Pretty pathetic too that grown men devote their lives to micro analyzing the manager and general manager of a baseball team on a message board. I rarely even hear you people talk about the players. It’s just Girardi this, Cashman that, Montero this, blah blah blah. Like a broken record. Luis do you se eerily have a crush on Cashman or something? All you ever talk about here is Cashman. He must fear your intelligence and wrath! Lol

  98. Mike Ri May 6th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Platooning a $20Mill+ Player? NOPE

    ————–
    I agree. . no way is Tex becoming a Platoon player. He’ll be popping out to 2nd base in the face of an all out shift on a daily basis before we know it.

  99. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    And blake, totally agree, about the bullpen and about Youk. There’s a good chance Donaldson doesn’t hit that home run against a decent righty. Wells has taken a verbal beating here for failing against Balfour (as soon as he fouled back that fastball down the middle I said to myself, “that was the pitch…damn!”) but it was Joe’s decision to leave Boone in there that shifted the momentum back to the A’s.

  100. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Donnybrook seems to desperately want both fired. He might have an orgasm if it happens, haha. Weird kid.

  101. luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Troll on OM…. You have the floor

  102. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Yea tex and his yearly 100+ RBIs, 30 hrs, and consistently high WAR really sucks. Cashman should be fired for signing him. He should have listened to the Cashman- haters here on lohud and signed nelly Cabrera instead. Lol!

  103. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    I wish I was in Denver for this series….I love that ballpark…..

  104. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Melky Cabrera.

  105. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    “Mike Ri May 6th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    Platooning a $20Mill+ Player? NOPE

    ————–
    I agree. . no way is Tex becoming a Platoon player. He’ll be popping out to 2nd base in the face of an all out shift on a daily basis before we know it.”

    Mike Ri,

    Why do you hurt me, lol?

    Ugh. I know it’s true. I just hope if we put it into the universe enough, maybe Overbay will have a monster road trip and the Yankees will tell Tex to swing underwater for another 6 months.

  106. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    The concern around here should Not center on a player NOT even in the lineup (TEX). It should center on whether Wells is beginning to return to the norm.

  107. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    Being a troll> wasting away years of your life complaining about Cashman on a message board. Try trolling some time, would be an improvement.

  108. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    It’s too bad they weren’t developing a 1b in the upper minors who could’ve gotten this shot that they had option with.
    ///
    G.Love, that is/was kinda-sorta their vague plan, with Corban Joseph and his left-handed bat, at least for a couple of games. They seem to abandon these things as quickly as they conceive them, but they would be getting below-average defense at 1B if they kept Joseph over there. He was back on 2nd yesterday, I believe, with Adams back on 3rd and Mustelier in RF.

  109. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    You’re right, donnybrook. That idiot Cashman should have signed melky over wells when he had the chance, like you suggested. Fire him! Our team is doomed!

  110. Mike Ri May 6th, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Ugh. I know it?s true. I just hope if we put it into the universe enough, maybe Overbay will have a monster road trip and the Yankees will tell Tex to swing underwater for another 6 months.

    —–
    Glove — lol lol

  111. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    I’m still waiting for this collapse into nothingness you ” realistic!” predicted would happen for tge last five years because of the worst GM and manager in baseball. Five years and counting… Go “Realistic!” Yankee fans!!! Lol

  112. blake May 6th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    “Ugh. I know it?s true. I just hope if we put it into the universe enough, maybe Overbay will have a monster road trip and the Yankees will tell Tex to swing underwater for another 6 months.”

    More dry hacks Tex!

  113. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Worst GM in baseball, terribly assembled team, wirst manager in baseball, year after year of 90+ wins. Either donnybrook has no idea what he’s talking about, or the universe simply doesn’t like “realistic!” Lohud posters. Whatcha think, “realistic!” Yankee fans?!!

  114. mick May 6th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    More dry hacks Tex!
    ===============
    wouldn’t swinging underwater produce wet ones?

  115. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 6th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Nix should and will stay…he’s a pretty ideal bench player/back-up IF. Does young Nelson have minor league options? Perhaps Tex is down in Tampa learning how to return to being a great all around hitter instead of an all or nothing short porch guy. Hypothetically, if that happened (along with his top notch defense and boyish good looks), a lot would be forgiven. Also, re: the earlier comment about acquiring Michael Young, I’m ALL for it!! He’d be a perfect mid-season veteran addition.

  116. G. Love May 6th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Nelson has no options. It’d keep him of DFA him. That’s why Colorado let him loose.

    Of course if we DFA him, there’s a chance no one claims him and he goes to Scranton but with Musty/Adams there, not sure how that would work.

    Do we even have a SS in AAA? Could Nelson play there?

  117. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    My belief is that Any of the regular posters on this Blog, given $200 Mill+, could put together a Playoff team. As to Mgr, that’s a philosophy debate.

  118. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Stone….guess you missed the posts where I said Girardi has been great this year. I don’t really want either fired…..I might would fire the owner though if possible
    //

    blake, wrong troll :)

  119. blake May 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    “Do we even have a SS in AAA? Could Nelson play there?”

    We have some guys that stand at the SS position I think…..Nelson is a bad defender….probably couldn’t handle SS well

  120. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Irony is not obvious to Obvious Man.

  121. blake May 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    blake, wrong troll ”

    Or is it?

  122. mick May 6th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Eventual team:
    tex, cano, jeter, arod
    dh youk/hafner
    gardy grandy ichiro wells
    nunez nix overbay cervelli stewart (15…..2 will have to go)
    ==============
    ASAP team:
    overbay cano nunez musty
    gardy ichiro wells
    hafner
    nix youk stewart romine adams

  123. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    If YES wants a former Yankee Pitcher to do color work, they should just stick with Cone. Leiter adds absolutely Nothing to the broadcast. Leiter still has the MLB Network gig, so his family would not be getting thrown out into the street if pink-slipped.

  124. mick May 6th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Look at the amount of errors Nelson made at SS in the minors, amazing.

  125. DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    VERY unlucky that the Nelson Line Drive was hit right at Reddick.

  126. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    blake May 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    blake, wrong troll ”

    Or is it?
    ///

    hint: syntax :D

    2nd hint: on the blog right now as somebody else.

  127. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Rich in NJ May 6th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    Irony is not obvious to Obvious Man.
    ///

    It isn’t in his other incarnation either ;)

  128. joecembrale May 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    I don’t know if I would go so far to call him a primadonna, but he’s one of too many hitters who just won’t, and apparently can’t, make adjustments.

    All you have to do is look at the way Mattingly and Tino approached their at bats. Never were concerned with homers as much as productive at bats. Guys like Giambi and Tex hit to all fields before they were Yankees, then once signed here, became pull happy and numbers obsessed and watched their overall offensive skills crash. Nothing more frustrating than a Tex at bat with risp, watching him dip that back shoulder, hitting the ball straight up in the air and walking back to the dugout with that astonished look on his face.

  129. yankeehotelfoxtrot May 6th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Addison Maruszak is the regular SS in AAA.

  130. joecembrale May 6th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    DONNYBROOK May 6th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
    If YES wants a former Yankee Pitcher to do color work, they should just stick with Cone. Leiter adds absolutely Nothing to the broadcast. Leiter still has the MLB Network gig, so his family would not be getting thrown out into the street if pink-slipped.

    You mean, you do not want to constantly be shown the difference between a 2 seam and 4 seam fastball????

  131. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    joe, I agree. I’ve eaten my baseball cap many times in the Bronx watching Tex flail at changeups, pop up to the 3B behind the foul line, or roll over. I just don’t like to throw around character damning definitions like “prima donna,” because I think there’s an underlying fear that he can’t readjust, and I’ve also observed that Tex could probably break a limb trying to alter his approach at this dug-in point.

    I agree with you about the flaws and the stubbornness or reluctance, but I’ll pass on the character demonization bandwagon.

  132. joecembrale May 6th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    I agree, he is a decent enough sort.

  133. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    yankeehotelfoxtrot May 6th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Addison Maruszak is the regular SS in AAA.
    ///

    It’s merely a working definition on what Maruszak tries to do over there.

  134. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    The Realistic Collapse of the New York Yankees, by the Self Proclaimed Geniuses at LoHud.

    You guys crack me up. Not much sense comes out of your mouths, but a great deal of humor does. What makes it even funnier is how serious you Cashman and Girardi haters act on a silly little message board, as though the fate of earth itself were at stake based on the content of your comments! Hahaha

  135. Carly May 6th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    Carly May 6th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Keep it up Zolio; he made the prospect notebook at baseball america this morning
    ///

    Mr. Carly-Stoneburner

    WTF? This is like the third or fourth time you have done this to me. What is your problem?

  136. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    “Take me seriously!!! I’m realistic!! Arg!!!”
    -
    Cashman and Girardi haters on LoHud

  137. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    luis May 6th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Troll on OM…. You have the floor

    —————–

    Lol, right on!! I think I’d like to hear OM’s thoughts on a variety of things like Game of Thrones’ fanhood and those twisty tie things they use to package bread.

  138. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Carly-Stone,

    I’m trying to let you down easy about Zoilo. I like him too, a lot, but he has broken my heart too many times by running circuitous routes under the ball, by diving inexplicably at a ball he had no chance at, and lying prone while it skitters behind him and little men run around the bases…. it is my hope that he can fix his issues, because he is a doubles machine with left-handed power (and even right-handed power). My comp for him has been Melky with more power, but he’s an OF hole right now.

  139. randy l. May 6th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    ” If 3-4 of those guys end up being the high ceiling guys they’re projected to be,”

    i remember that being said about hughes, joba, and kennedy

    and then the killer b’s

    there’s always a dangling carrot of future promise leading optimistic fans forward.

    the truth is even if no one of the present batch pans put there’ll be another batch that’s put out there to keep fans hoping.

  140. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Cashman, Girardi, and Hal, oh my! Save these poor suffering realist souls on LoHud!!!! Why oh why was so fate so horrible so as to assign them to root for this awful Yankees franchise! What unspeakable horror!!

  141. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    “Take me seriously!!! I’m realistic!! Arg!!!”
    -
    Cashman and Girardi haters on LoHud
    ///

    Don’tcha mean the Lohud “intelligentsia”? ;)

  142. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Randy,

    Prospects only suck when they are in the yankees system. If they are traded or are in the Red Sox system, they are automatic future hall of gamers, don’t you know?

  143. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    randy – Right. But I don’t think Cash makes it to the point where those guys get a shot, I’m just saying if they do pan out at some point it should at least change something about his legacy with the team.

    Besides, the one thing that gets me more excited about this next wave is that they’re not all pitchers. If one OFer, one pitcher, and one INFer hits, I’ll consider that a great success.

  144. J. Alfred Prufrock May 6th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Either you’re him or an out-of-work advocat :D

  145. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    If only that idiot Cashman had listened to the geniuses here earlier, we’d have an outfield of melky Jackson and tabata and unstoppable rotation headlined by Halliday, Santana, and come. Fire him, realistic lohud posters!:)

  146. Shame Spencer May 6th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    :arrow: ….except for you OM. You stay here.

  147. ObviousMan May 6th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Cash and legacy with the team will be terrible. I mean, if a bunch of Internet message board posters and mike lupica dislike you, your life is pretty much finished. Over, man!

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