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Ichiro sits, Sabathia bats ninth

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 09, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner CF
Jayson Nix SS
Robinson Cano 2B
Vernon Wells LF
Ben Francisco RF
Chris Nelson 3B
Lyle Overbay 1B
Chris Stewart C
CC Sabathia P

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140 Responses to “Ichiro sits, Sabathia bats ninth”

  1. joecembrale May 9th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Man, that is an ugly line up

  2. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    Ben Francisco RF
    Chris Nelson 3B

    ———————-

    5 and 6 are a mess… I’d rather slot CC there, and I’m not even kidding.

  3. joecembrale May 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    David Waldstein @DavidWaldstein
    Soccer fans, Yankee Stadium is going to show the Champions League final on the big screen prior to the Chelsea-Man City game there on May 25

    Sorry, painting my house that day and prefer to watch the paint dry……………………………

  4. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 11:56 am

    The CO pitcher today has been pretty bad, hopefully the lineup doesn’t matter.

  5. joecembrale May 9th, 2013 at 11:57 am

    If we can’t hit Francis, then there is really no lefty we can hit at this point..

  6. joecembrale May 9th, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    On May 9, 2012 the Yankees were 16-14.

  7. Captain Clutch May 9th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Ichiro has been really good against lefties recently. But I guess in Girardi’s world it doesn’t matter. His boy Francisco has to play because he bats with his right hand.

  8. Mike Ri May 9th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Damn that Lineup is horrible

  9. bruceb May 9th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    Any word on when Nunez might be fit for selection again?

  10. pat May 9th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    David Waldstein @DavidWaldstein
    Soccer fans, Yankee Stadium is going to show the Champions League final on the big screen prior to the Chelsea-Man City game there on May 25

    OK. As long as Tex isn’t yapping about it! :wink:

  11. Niblick May 9th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    So much for Girardi’s total BS reasons for batting Romine 9th yesterday.

    What does Francisco have to do to play himself off the team? Commit a felony?

  12. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Ben Francisco must seriously have the pictures

  13. CountryClub May 9th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    So much for Girardi’s total BS reasons for batting Romine 9th yesterday.

    —————

    Part 2 of his reason was that Cano was batting 2nd and he wanted two real hitters in front of him. Today Cano is batting 3rd. So they dont need a hitter in the nine spot. I’m guessing that will be his explanation.

  14. Captain Clutch May 9th, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    The scary thing about Girardi is he really thinks that Francisco is just in a slump. Note to Girardi/Cashman…a slump is when you have a track record and are actually a good hitter.

  15. luis May 9th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    And Sabathia is a good hitter, even for a pitcher

  16. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    @JPosnanski: Written in March, this search for anyone who thinks Angel Hernandez is a good umpire is still hilarious. http://t.co/Q6ARISSBuB

  17. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    I’d rather have Christ Stewart hitting 5th than Francisco at this point.

  18. luis May 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    I think we will see a CC homer this afternoon ;)

  19. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    Ben Francisco must seriously have the pictures

    ———————

    I thought maybe Boesch might get a shot today.

  20. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Maybe playing Fransico is Girardi way of forcing Cashman to get him somebody better to play

  21. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    CC is an awesome hitter.. I love watching his ABs and I’m sad this is an afternoon game which I’ll miss most of.

    *crosses fingers* C’monnnnn rain delay!!!

  22. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    Maybe playing Fransico is Girardi way of forcing Cashman to get him somebody better to play
    ————

    There’s probably a smidgen of truth there. These are the guys Girardi has to play.

  23. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    RadioKev says:
    May 9, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    I’d rather have Christ Stewart hitting 5th than Francisco at this point.

    Ghost man might be preferable …..

  24. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    What worries me is that Robbie is in a funk. He’s looked really bad the last two games. I’m hoping it isn’t prolonged as has happened in the past. In that last at bat, everyone in the park knew that a breaking ball off the plate was coming. Spoil a pitch if you don’t want to walk.

  25. Jerkface May 9th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    CC is an awesome hitter

    This, like Kyle farnsworth and fighting, is one of my big disappointments. CC may be an awesome hitter but he only has 2 singles with the Yankees since coming here.

  26. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    You mean snow delay, Shame?

    RAB had a post analyzing the Yankees recent draft picks. The thing with it is the jury really is still out. I don’t care about Bichette Jr or Culver, if Heathcott and Hensley work out then it looks pretty good.

  27. tbone1570 May 9th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    The plan for Nunez is to sit him for the next 10 days. He’ll hit lead off the next day and will hurt himself taking a practice swing in the on deck circle, but only after he is announced as the hitter!

    :)

  28. CountryClub May 9th, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 2m Overbay is 3-for-30 vs LHP and Francisco is 3-for-28

  29. tucker May 9th, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Am parachuting in on the conversation about Tex and Sports Yapper. My reaction was the same as G. love’s when I saw that tweet. Tex is participating in an Internet chat with fans for another sport while his shorthanded team is playing its guts out to stay in the pennant race.

    At the very least, it leaves a bad impression for those who noticed it. It further bolsters Tex’s rep as a walking billboard. The guy seems like he’s all about maximizing every money-making opportunity that comes his way — from suits to Sports Yapper to the juicer — on top of his $180 million contract of diminishing returns on the field.

    I never question Tex’s effort on the field, and I’m sure he’s working hard to recover from injury. But he should have better sense than to endorse a product and direct his fans/followers to watch another sport while his team is scrapping like crazy with several rookie- and near-rookie wage players.

    It would be nice if somebody questions him about this. The fans (who noticed) deserve an explanation.

  30. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    @joe_sheehan: Today, 11.7 million Americans do not have a job.

    Today, Angel Hernandez does.

  31. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    @JPosnanski: Written in March, this search for anyone who thinks Angel Hernandez is a good umpire is still hilarious. http://t.co/Q6ARISSBuB

    ——————-

    This is f**king amazing.

  32. Carly May 9th, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    Good luck today Yanks (given the lineup, they are probably going to need it) :)

    Under 30 days until the draft!

  33. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Can you imagine Derek Jeter tweeting on sports yapper during or just after a Yankee game?

  34. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/i.....53962.html

    “The beauty of BullFrog is its inconspicuousness. Because it goes on clear, it can easily be mistaken for sweat. Of course, the subterfuge tends to vanish when one applies sunscreen for a game played in a domed stadium, as Buchholz did at Rogers Centre.”

    Sweaty Freddie?

    CC wipes his forehead sweat fairly often. Wonder if that’s sunscreen.

  35. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Probably why Aceves looks like he’s sweating like a mad man. Probably douses his head with sunscreen.

  36. luis May 9th, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    I still think that Joe West is the worst Ump… Hernandez a close second

  37. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Francisco plays more than Romine. *barf*

  38. UnKnown May 9th, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    I hope CC is allowed to swing away even if their is an opportunity to bunt a runner over. For pure entertainment I really want CC to get all of his hacks in today.

  39. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    “Can you imagine Derek Jeter tweeting on sports yapper during or just after a Yankee game?”

    Maybe if he was 15 or 20 years younger?

  40. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Oh wait, not during.

  41. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    Cashman: why are you sitting Ichiro? Hal isn’t gonna like this.

    Girardi: have you seen these guys I have to work with? Listen I’m gonna play Francy every single game against LHP until you get me somebody better

    Cashman: but….but….

    Girardi: every game Cash

  42. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    I would play Ichiro at 3B.

  43. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    “Tex is participating in an Internet chat with fans for another sport while his shorthanded team is playing its guts out to stay in the pennant race.”
    ==================================================
    this is just so ridiculous it’s below commenting on but just funny to quote.

  44. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    ive only been to coor’s field once and on that day, mike hampton went yard twice.

    cc could tie that today!

  45. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Then why is CC batting 9th?

  46. Jack Florham May 9th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    From Josh Norris….One scout’s view of Yankee prospects in Trenton, Tampa and Charleston…pretty good reading..

    http://minormatterstrenton.blogspot.com/

  47. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    blake -

    I have had that thought myself…

    Girardi sure sounded “off” when he talked about not having Nunez and being short-handed. Maybe he’s also not in love with the “let’s wait and see” approach to the DL. He already got burned on that with Youkilis.

  48. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    so how many of you tore joe up for batting phelps 8th yesterday?

    and out of that group, how many are whining that cc IS batting 9th today?

    i think i could guess a few who fit both categories… :)

  49. pat May 9th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    “Tex is participating in an Internet chat with fans for another sport while his shorthanded team is playing its guts out to stay in the pennant race.”

    and Tex not tweeting about basketball during the game would have helped them win easier?

  50. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    “Girardi: have you seen these guys I have to work with? Listen I’m gonna play Francy every single game against LHP until you get me somebody better”

    Torre did that by playing Enrique Wilson against the Mets and they ended up getting Raul Mondesi.

    It should be one step toward being fired.

  51. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    “so how many of you tore joe up for batting phelps 8th yesterday?

    I don’t care where Romine bats as long as he plays.

    “and out of that group, how many are whining that cc IS batting 9th today?”

    The only one whining is you.

  52. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    “Buchholz’s right hand danced all over his body in Toronto. In the first inning alone, he put it to his mouth and wet hair close to a dozen times. Before Jose Bautista stepped to the plate, Buchholz was particularly egregious, twice tapping his non-pitching forearm, the most frequent location of BullFrog application. Controversy chased Buchholz to his next start Monday, when he allowed a season-high four runs in six innings…A review of the TV broadcast showed him going to his mouth and hair far less frequently and not once visibly grabbing his left arm, but photos showed otherwise.”

    “While Buchholz declined comment through a Red Sox spokesman Wednesday, one source close to the Red Sox confirmed the team’s pitchers almost all rely on sunscreen for better grip on finicky balls, particularly in cold, bad weather”

    “Though the BullFrog concoction may not foster unnatural movement, the pitchers admitted that once they mastered its whims – balls that are too sticky end up bouncing 5 feet in front of the plate, so it can take time to tame – it unquestionably helped their stuff. The better grip a pitcher has, the more confident he is in unleashing his pitches. The longer a ball stays on his fingers, the better finish he gets on the pitch.

    *************
    “After the game, Buchholz told reporters: ‘I did the same thing I’ve done in all seven starts this year.’”

    LMAO – of COURSE you did. And that’s the problem, laptops!

  53. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    yeah, girardi’s really walking the plank with the horrible job he’s doing this year, LOL! :)

    the extension looks like a lock at this point!

    go Joe G!

  54. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    “The only one whining is you.”
    =======================
    not whining a bit here, i’m very happy.

    that was actually mocking not whining.

  55. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Girardi: every game Cash
    ——
    Good on ya, Blake

  56. blake May 9th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    “and Tex not tweeting about basketball during the game would have helped them win easier?”

    Of course not….it just probably wasn’t the best thing for him to do

  57. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    “yeah, girardi’s really walking the plank with the horrible job he’s doing this year, LOL! ”

    Everyone knows that baseball managers have very little effect on the game. But they should be smart enough to develop talent on a team with a lot of age.

    “not whining a bit here, i’m very happy.”

    Yet you’re always complaining about anyone who disagrees with you.

    “that was actually mocking not whining.”

    You mock yourself with most of your posts.

  58. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    go Joe G!
    ————–
    I’m actually not that enthused about his haircut. Cash should look into that. Image is important, that jock look is passe.

  59. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    “You mock yourself with most of your posts.”
    ================================
    …yeah, IMAGINE THE NERVE of anyone coming in here and actually ROOTING FOR the yankees!

  60. Nick in SF May 9th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Is Girardi being inconsistent by batting CC 9th when he batted Phelps 8th yesterday?

    No.

    It’s consistent with his reasoning in the first place, for better or worse.

  61. luis May 9th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Rich,

    You may release the wrath of “Dolores Umbridge” on to you

  62. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    “…yeah, IMAGINE THE NERVE of anyone coming in here and actually ROOTING FOR the yankees!”

    If you don’t agree with what the Yankees do you’re not a fan from your point a view.

    In the words of the late Ronald Reagan: There you go again.

  63. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    luis

    I had to Google that.

  64. luis May 9th, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
    luis

    I had to Google that.

    ========================

    :D Fits, doesn’t it?

  65. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    How many of you were very upset the Yankees won last night?
    C’mon, I know you exist! There must be at least several dozen critics here who were
    convinced they knew more than Girardi about how to construct a line-up before the game
    last night.

    Girardi has a plan. Give the man some credit.

  66. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    “Fits, doesn’t it?”

    Yeah…

  67. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    “How many of you were very upset the Yankees won last night?”

    We have another keeper of the faith.

  68. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    You may release the wrath of “Dolores Umbridge” on to you

    ————————–

    +100,000,000

    All Harry Potter references get +++

  69. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 1:01 pm

    Girardi has a plan. Give the man some credit.
    ———–
    Yay, Joe G. I kinda like Balls to the Wall stuff. “If it doesn’t work we lose, as it stands we’re losing anyway”. (Okay, he still has a bad do)

  70. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Tulo is back in the lineup! \o/

    I mean.. erm… boo!

  71. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    I was very happy the Yankees won last night.

    Doesn’t make hitting the pitcher 8th right.

  72. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    I was very happy the Yankees won last night.

    Doesn’t make hitting the pitcher 8th right.

    ========================

    10 demerits for this comment

  73. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    We have another keeper of the faith.
    ———-
    I was going to do a learned discourse on this place hoisting the Oriflamme, but maybe not.

  74. blake May 9th, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Hal: so Cash give me an update….and hurry because you can’t pause World of Warcraft you know….

    Cash: well sir we are a game out of 1st lace currently

    Hal: how is Derek playing? Tex etc?

    Cash: well sir they are both hurt and haven’t played a game all year…actually Joe is needing some help (interrupted)

    Hal: so do you think the fans are staying with us….I mean we are winning right ?

    Cash: yes but we don’t know how long we can…(interrupted)

    Hal: good work cash….I always knew you were more than a coffee fetcher…..keep up the good work and I’ll talk to you next month…..remember don’t call me I’ll call you

  75. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    iirc alot of the people who complain the most about the way the yankees were put together this year were HUGE on signing hamilton (.182 ba $125M contract)

  76. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    like theh guy who’s calling the gm a ‘coffee fetcher’

  77. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    “How many of you were very upset the Yankees won last night?
    C’mon, I know you exist! There must be at least several dozen critics here who were
    convinced they knew more than Girardi about how to construct a line-up before the game
    last night.

    Girardi has a plan. Give the man some credit.”

    :)

  78. blake May 9th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Ys Guy says:
    May 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    like theh guy who’s calling the gm a ‘coffee fetcher’

    You didn’t understand….it’s ok

  79. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Hal: good work cash….I always knew you were more than a coffee fetcher…..keep up the good work and I’ll talk to you next month…..remember don’t call me I’ll call you
    ———–
    It plays, it plays.

    It’ll coincide with his monthly visit to Yankee Stadium. He might have missed last month’s.

  80. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    “iirc alot of the people who complain the most about the way the yankees were put together this year were HUGE on signing hamilton (.182 ba $125M contract)”

    Is the season over?

    You may recall that the first choice was Justin Upton:

    .276 .386 .629 1.015

    2013 25 Atlanta Braves $9,750,000
    2014 26 Atlanta Braves $14,250,000
    2015 27 Atlanta Braves $14,500,000

    But I realize that selective perception may be an issue.

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    “I was going to do a learned discourse on this place hoisting the Oriflamme, but maybe not.”

    I think I’d rather see a “learned” discourse on why keeping the faith is a bad thing.

    :D

  82. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    blake May 9th, 2013 at 1:08 pm
    Hal: so Cash give me an update….and hurry because you can’t pause World of Warcraft you know….

    Cash: well sir we are a game out of 1st lace currently

    Hal: how is Derek playing? Tex etc?

    Cash: well sir they are both hurt and haven’t played a game all year…actually Joe is needing some help (interrupted)

    Hal: so do you think the fans are staying with us….I mean we are winning right ?

    Cash: yes but we don’t know how long we can…(interrupted)

    Hal: good work cash….I always knew you were more than a coffee fetcher…..keep up the good work and I’ll talk to you next month…..remember don’t call me I’ll call you

    ===============================

    LMAO!!

    Or maybe like this

    Hal: How is the revenue stream going?

    Cashman: Well, we are down 18%… We are selling tickets under 5 bucks

    Hal: What!? .. How can that be?… We are winning at a reasonable rate !!

    Cashman: the scrap heap solution it’s not bringing the revenues we expected

    Hal: Ok what do you need?

    Cashman: more money to bring a star player to draw crowds

    Hal: Hangs up the phone

  83. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    I was very happy the Yankees won last night.

    Doesn’t make hitting the pitcher 8th right.
    ————————————————————————————–
    Last night it made perfect sense based on the current roster, the available bench players and the starting line-up.
    You may have given your opinion already on why you might not agree with that Girardi did, so if you want to educated me on the matter, I am willing to read what you have to say.

    Win or lose last night, the decision to bat the pitcher 8th made sense.
    If “Yankee Fans” here are unable to comprehend this, well I feel bad for you.

  84. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    “Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    “iirc alot of the people who complain the most about the way the yankees were put together this year were HUGE on signing hamilton (.182 ba $125M contract)”

    Is the season over?”
    ======================================
    so you’re saying that if the angels waived hamilton you’d want the yankees to assume that contract?

  85. Bo knows May 9th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    I think I’d rather see a “learned” discourse on why keeping the faith is a bad thing.
    —-
    You see hoisting the King’s standard, the Oriflamme, meant giving no quarter. Never mind, my train of thought jumped the rails. Mumble, mumble.

  86. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    WTP,

    I actually thought it reasonable when they posted the lineup… JS and I had a little discussion about it… The difference?… We stated our cases without being personal about it…. Is not about agreeing or not (JS and I seldom do).. It is how we express things to eachother what matters.

    This complulsive complainer ( yours trully ) actually said that Girardi probably deserved manager of year if he is able to keep this up with the amount of injuries this team has suffered

  87. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    I gave my explanation on why I think batting the pitcher 8th was not smart last night in one of the pre game threads, if someone is interested they can find them easily.

    It’s a matter of opinion and I don’t think anything has been proven mathematically, so I don’t think anyone can claim to be correct without a doubt.

  88. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    If “Yankee Fans” here are unable to comprehend this, well I feel bad for you.

    ========================

    This is unnecessary

  89. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    “so you’re saying that if the angels waived hamilton you’d want the yankees to assume that contract?”

    Obviously, that depends on the next few years’ payrolls.

    I don’t think he’s done by any means.

  90. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    “Win or lose last night, the decision to bat the pitcher 8th made sense.
    If “Yankee Fans” here are unable to comprehend this, well I feel bad for you.”

    I think that’s the thing that drives me craziest. Some people come on here and complain and criticize like gangbusters but never give a baseball reason for their criticisms. jerkface will always attempt to give a baseball reason, and blake also. It doesn’t mean you have to agree with the reason, but at least it’s a reason, and it sure beats “See, Girardi doesn’t like X.”

    He’s batted decent hitters in the 9 hole before. He’s batting one in the 9 hole tonight!

  91. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    “This is unnecessary”

    It says more about him than jacksquat.

  92. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Luis-
    Well said. Girardi so far has done a wonderful job as “the manager”. I can’t help but laugh at the critics here who express themselves in a way that attempts to show they can do a better job than Girardi.
    Despite not knowing who is available that day to play, who needs a day off, who is unavailable, what the match ups are, etc…..
    Quick to judge, without knowing the full facts of the situation.
    Of course it was odd to see Phelps hitting 8th, but obviously the plans was well thought out in advance and made perfect sense once Girardi explained that he wanted to avoid having
    3 consecutive lefties hitting late in the game. That would have created an advantage for The Rockies.

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    “I gave my explanation on why I think batting the pitcher 8th was not smart last night in one of the pre game threads, if someone is interested they can find them easily.”

    I didn’t see it but I respect that.

    “It’s a matter of opinion and I don’t think anything has been proven mathematically, so I don’t think anyone can claim to be correct without a doubt.”

    I respect this even more.

    :)

  94. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    WTP,

    What I was trying to say my friend is why not try to be more civil to those that don’t agree with you?

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    “Despite not knowing who is available that day to play, who needs a day off, who is unavailable, what the match ups are, etc…..
    Quick to judge, without knowing the full facts of the situation.
    Of course it was odd to see Phelps hitting 8th, but obviously the plans was well thought out in advance and made perfect sense once Girardi explained that he wanted to avoid having
    3 consecutive lefties hitting late in the game. That would have created an advantage for The Rockies.”

    Warning, that says it all. I often say that while fans can be comfortable looking at each game under a microscope, individual game moves the same, a manager is busy looking at the bigger picture and typically has good reason for the things does.

    sigh

  96. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    “Win or lose last night, the decision to bat the pitcher 8th made sense.
    If “Yankee Fans” here are unable to comprehend this, well I feel bad for you.”

    I think that’s the thing that drives me craziest. Some people come on here and complain and criticize like gangbusters but never give a baseball reason for their criticisms. jerkface will always attempt to give a baseball reason, and blake also. It doesn’t mean you have to agree with the reason, but at least it’s a reason, and it sure beats “See, Girardi doesn’t like X.”

    He’s batted decent hitters in the 9 hole before. He’s batting one in the 9 hole tonight!
    —————————————————————————————————————–
    C.C. needs to show me something with the bat tonight. I think he rep as a good hitting pitcher has been blown way out of proportion.

  97. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    yesterday afternoon girardi thought last night’s game all the way till hafner came up.

  98. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    C.C. needs to show me something with the bat tonight. I think he rep as a good hitting pitcher has been blown way out of proportion.
    ———-

    Of course it has. I just get a kick out of it.

  99. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    *thought through* last night’s game…

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    “C.C. needs to show me something with the bat tonight. I think he rep as a good hitting pitcher has been blown way out of proportion.”

    I know he definitely has a good reputation! Also playing in the NL and knowing the parks, maybe Girardi feels that gives him a leg up. We’ll see.

  101. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Nunez back tomorrow.
    Man Francisco is batting .100
    Chris Nelson has ZERO hits since joining the Yankees.
    Boesch clearly has not adjusted to coming off the bench

    That’s the big three of bad.

    I really hope we hear on May 15 that those three are being replaced with Granderson/Musty/Adams. If Grandy isn’t ready, then leave Boesch, but Francisco and Nelson are useless.

  102. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 1:30 pm
    C.C. needs to show me something with the bat tonight. I think he rep as a good hitting pitcher has been blown way out of proportion.
    ———-

    Of course it has. I just get a kick out of it.
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Same here. Nothing makes me laugh more when I see a pitcher take a huge hack at a pitch and not come close to making contact. Very entertaining. More so when the pitcher at the plate smiles just a bit or when the t.v. commentators tease the pitcher for his swing and miss.

  103. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Rich,

    Yeah…smh… later…Remember beware of Dolores

  104. blake May 9th, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    @johnmanuelba: Kudos to Yankees scout Andy Cannizaro, former #Tulane IF got his first big leaguer, RHP Preston Claiborne: http://t.co/lDNDWhd7AM

  105. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    this yankee team can’t score right now. pitcher batting 8th or 9th made no differences whatsoever. Joe’s scenario not stacking 3 lefty together only render ever poorer options in Ben whoever can’t hit while batting romine 8th doesn’t really get me excited other than it’s a norm to do so.

    in the end, Joe neither made a brilliant move nor a bad move, it made ZERO differences in last night’s game as it normally doesn’t. Larussa always ticker with pitchers spot in the past, it made zero difference. Yanks strategy right now is scrap some runs with 60 percent replacement players on any given nights and hope pitching hold up. once they get out of NL, things might be slightly better.

  106. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    railrider’s SP for tonight is still tbd.
    granderson should be in the lineup today or tomorrow.

  107. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Whatever they are doing in drafting and developing relievers, they need to find a way to transfer that to every other position, because so far, it’s not that good.

  108. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    Rich, it much easier to develop reliever than starter, i am not it’s something transferable. then again, maybe cash and co are adroit in finding ‘fail starters’ according to Cash’s logic.

  109. luis May 9th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Cashmoney,

    You are a damn good poster…Later

  110. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    I am waiting on axe to fall on Donnie. Yanks definitely made a good choice with Joe over Donnie.

  111. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    Claiborne has looked good so far.
    The kid could really be something worth keeping around, or develop into the next
    Scott Proctor.
    No Joba means something else has to pitch the 7th. Last night it was Claiborne and the kid
    did well.

  112. Ys Guy May 9th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    the ‘failed starter’ thing worked pretty good the last time we needed a closer…

  113. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Torre: “It was a judgment call, and as such, it stands as final.”
    _______________

    Actually it was NOT a judgment call once they went to review.
    Then it is a matter of the technology and those four idiots were the only ones that saw something different. Hernandez should be suspended for not agreeing to be questioned and then fired for being the worst ump. When someone is really bad at their job, they get FIRED. Not if you are an umpire. They are NEVER accountable. It’s really bad.

  114. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    “I am waiting on axe to fall on Donnie. Yanks definitely made a good choice with Joe over Donnie”

    Yep. I feel bad for Donnie and believe he can be a very good manager for some team out there. I just don’t think the Yankees are the team.

  115. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    it’s simple logic, you don’t worry about late innings if you can score some runs. There is no seer here in joe anticipatinh scenarios that might rise 8 innings later. Joe was tinkering with an idea last night, in the end, it made no difference to me. much ado with nothing.

    they can’t score right now. Joe can bat pitcher sixth and give an arguable reason, it still won’t make a difference in terms of this team need to fight and claw to scratch a few runs right now regardless where pitcher bats. heck, bat him lead.. that way the rest of lineup is strengthen and lengthen!

  116. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Some umpires are dreadful. They’re the ones calling games and things within games that can decide the outcome of the game, and taken to its logical conclusion, the outcome of a season. And if a particular umpire has it in for a particular team, that makes it even worse.

    West and Hernandez notoriously lead the bunch.

  117. MaineYankee May 9th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Pete Abraham ? @PeteAbe
    Ellsbury had 32 homers in 660 AB in 2011. 5 HRs in 451 ABs since. #redsox

    ——————————————————–

    For the ones that want the Yankees to sign him as a FA might want to rethink that.

  118. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    AC1-Has there been any reports about just what sort of T.V.’s the umpires are using
    to see these replays “under the dugouts”?
    I really hope they have access to HD feeds and are not forced to watch a replay via
    a 10 inch screen in standard definition.

    The call was terrible.

  119. DONNYBROOK May 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    With Kemp doing a Houdini, and Hanley being Hanley, the Dodger offense is Kaput. That’s Not Mattingly’s fault, but his head is gonna go alongside Ned Stark’s none-the-less.

  120. blake May 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    I really don’t see how you screw up a replay…..that’s total incompetence

  121. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    I will agree the order of the lineup doesn’t matter right now.

    Who plays where and how much IS on Girardi.

    Romine has looked bad at the plate (HOW CAN HE NOT – playing once a week)

    Francisco has a .100 average.

    You CANNOT sit Ichiro who is actually hitting.

    You have to play your guys every day until someone can come in and give them a break. (Granderson, Musty).

    Can see now why Colorado let Nelson go for nothing. (you mean to tell me there was not another scrap piece that could have played 3b in a pinch for a couple weeks?)

  122. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    AC1-Has there been any reports about just what sort of T.V.’s the umpires are using
    to see these replays “under the dugouts”?
    I really hope they have access to HD feeds and are not forced to watch a replay via
    a 10 inch screen in standard definition.

    The call was terrible.
    ___

    Torre said they have access to home and away feeds. I dont know about the HD. Irrelevant. Point was what happened after the game. You stand there like a man and answer questions. Even Jim Joyce faced the music on the perfect game botch.

  123. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Can see now why Colorado let Nelson go for nothing. (you mean to tell me there was not another scrap piece that could have played 3b in a pinch for a couple weeks?)
    ___

    How much worse could Addison Maruszak have been for two weeks? Nelson is batting .000 so I have to assume he could not have been worse.

  124. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    blake May 9th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
    I really don’t see how you screw up a replay…..that’s total incompetence
    ———

    Talk to the NFL

  125. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    AC1-
    I have not yet read or heard what Hernandez had to say post-game. I’ll have to look that up.
    True about Joyce, He faced the music and the fans had more respect for him because of that
    then prior to when he met with the media.

  126. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    “It wasn’t evident on the TV we had it was a home run,” Hernandez said. “I don’t know what kind of replay you had, but you can’t reverse a call unless there is 100 percent evidence and there wasn’t 100 percent evidence.”
    -=——————————————————————————————————–
    WOW!
    I am speechless. I saw the replay last night and I was 100% convinced the ball was a home run after watching the reply 2 times.

  127. Nick in SF May 9th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Didn’t Chris Nelson get a hit last night? Ended up on 3rd after Fowler botched the play?

  128. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    I gotta say, I agree the squabble about yesterday’s batting order is much ado about not much. They have a compromised lineup due to injuries, further compromised by being restricted to one (hopefully) strategic at-bat by the DH who cannot play the field, further compromised by being a player short (the non-playing, non-DL’d Nunez). I’m not sure who batted where was all that important in the scheme of things.

    However, I do respect that Joe Girardi was trying to figure out how a way to maximize this compromised team. Whether it worked or didn’t work or had no measurable affect at all. We all know he doesn’t like to stack lefties, and I guess it all goes from there. And frankly, the lefties he has to work with right now? Well, I guess you might as well try something.

    I generally agree that managers have very little affect on the game itself, but when a team is handcuffed as the Yankees are, and is still winning, without it’s “stars,” then I do believe some credit has to go to the manager for getting the best he can out of the team he has to work with. And credit to the players who are not giving up or giving in.

  129. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    I saw the replay from a couple of different angles. It was obvious that ball was a homerun. Maybe MLB should invest in something other than someone’s smartphone for replay review.

  130. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    I do give Girardi credit for one thing though, he was at least thinking outside the box, something he rarely does, even if I didn’t agree with it.

  131. DONNYBROOK May 9th, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Torre is using the phrase “judgement call”, merely to disarm teams contemplating “protesting” blown replay judgements. Personally, I am against replay. I like the fracas that erupts when an Ump being human screws-up. That’s just part of life, which baseball reflects.

  132. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    “Didn’t Chris Nelson get a hit last night? Ended up on 3rd after Fowler botched the play?”

    Why yes he did!

  133. MaineYankee May 9th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Dave D’Onofrio @davedonofrio
    Were I Cherington, my 1st choice for a 40-man spot would be Morales to 60-day DL. 2nd would be bringing Holt to Boston, DFA’ing Ciriaco.

    ————————————————————————-

    Maybe Ciriaco can be the Yankees next UT infielder.

  134. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    I agree Doreen, Joe deserves some credits in holding up this team.

  135. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Maybe Ciriaco can be the Yankees next UT infielder.
    —–
    I thought Ronny Cedeno would have been a good fit over Nix when he was released. Yanks definitely could use upgrades over Nix. That need is considerable lessen when some of the bodies come back. but I think the idea is here is always try to improve upon what you have.

    As for Nelson, he probably won’t be here in two weeks or even a week.

  136. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    I agree Doreen, Joe deserves some credits in holding up this team.
    ——–

    The dude has ran a pretty steady ship throughout his Yankees managerial career. At worst he’s just an average manager, but there’s no justification for some people’s hatred of him.

    Some baseball fans just assign more blame to the manager. I assume that’s league wide. My speculation has been it’s some sort of NFL head-coach conflation, but who knows.

  137. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Doreen, I responded to your post in the next thread.

    :)

  138. willkamm May 9th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    C.C. needs to show me something with the bat tonight. I think he rep as a good hitting pitcher has been blown way out of proportion.
    ———-

    Of course it has. I just get a kick out of it.

    I would have to agree since he’s only had 109 plate appearances in 13 seasons anyway. Overall he’s well below league average as a hitter in those trips to the plate. (57 OPS+)
    In the 8 years with Cleavland he was actually above league average in 42 PA’s. 107 OPS+.
    Maybe that is where the rep began.
    Personally I don’t ever recall hearing he was a good hitter, but maybe it was the stats with the Indians that led to that reputation.

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