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Pregame notes: Nunez getting closer

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 09, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Eduardo Nunez

The tarp is on the field here in Denver, which means batting practice was cancelled and there was no chance to go through any sort of normal ground ball drills. Eduardo Nunez went through a few exercises in the outfield, but it’s hard to know whether he’s truly available.

On his way out of the clubhouse, Nunez said he believed he could play today, but he also said he can’t hit yet. He’s either being overly optimistic, hinting at a running-only situation, or he simply didn’t understand the rushed question.

“If he says he’s OK, I wouldn’t use him much,” Joe Girardi said. “It would be in the case of an emergency.”

As last night showed, things can get interesting when the Yankees are without a backup infielder — something that’s happened quite a bit this season. Usually, the only impact is a lack of options, but occasionally it’s left Robinson Cano at shortstop, Francisco Cervelli at second or Vernon Wells at third.

“They understand that we might have to do a few things different just because of the way our roster is constructed,” Girardi said. “Our lineup is kind of heavily left-handed, and we’re short an infielder, and we’re having to do some different things is the bottom line. … I’m glad they’re embracing (an all-hands-on-deck mentality). I think it’s fun for them. It’s a long year, it’s a grind, and sometimes when you’re in the same spot all the time, you get a chance to move a little bit and they get excited about it. I know Robbie was extremely excited about the day he got to play short. I think they like that. I don’t really want to make a habit of it.”

CC Sabathia• Why not bat CC Sabathia eighth? Because with a left-hander on the mound for Colorado, the Yankees lineup looks a little different. “It’s just different because I have righties between some of the lefties,” Girardi said. “I don’t really have any lefties stacked. If you put possibly the pitcher in the eighth hole, then you’d have Overbay and one of your pinch hitters stacked.”

• Someone asked — somewhat jokingly — whether Sabathia pushed to bat fifth or sixth and would be upset about batting ninth. “I haven’t seen him today, so maybe that’s why,” Girardi said.

• Why pull Austin Romine in favor of Chris Stewart last night? “It’s a situation where Stew is used to Mo,” Girardi said. “It’s a one-run game, and I just felt like Stew’s the best thrower that we have, so I thought we’d put him in there. … It’s not something I want to do every time, but in that situation, I just thought I’d do it.”

• For whatever it’s worth, Girardi seemed to think there was some chance of having Nunez in the lineup tomorrow. “I sure hope so,” he said. “I’m not really sure. Rib cages are tricky, so you have to make sure he feels OK before he goes out there.”

• Nothing has changed about finding a starting pitcher for Monday’s doubleheader. “We’ll worry about that as we get a little bit closer,” Girardi said. “Nova could make that start for us. He’s in line. And we have some other candidates.”

• Joba Chamberlain is able to play catch, and Girardi said he expects Chamberlain to be activated as soon as he’s eligible. “I think so,” Girardi said. “He says he feels much better, and he’s playing catch – which is a good sign – but until he gets off the mound and turns it up a little bit, you’re really not going to know.”

• Joe Torre released a statement from MLB about last night’s missed home run call in Cleveland: “By rule, the decision to reverse a call by use of instant replay is at the sole discretion of the crew chief. In the opinion of Angel Hernandez, who was last night’s crew chief, there was not clear and convincing evidence to overturn the decision on the field. It was a judgment call, and as such, it stands as final. Home and away broadcast feeds are available for all uses of instant replay, and they were available to the crew last night. Given what we saw, we recognize that an improper call was made. Perfection is an impossible standard in any endeavor, but our goal is always to get the calls right. Earlier this morning, we began the process of speaking with the crew to thoroughly review all the circumstances surrounding last night’s decision.”

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192 Responses to “Pregame notes: Nunez getting closer”

  1. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    Rich, it much easier to develop reliever than starter, i am not it’s something transferable. then again, maybe cash and co are adroit in finding ‘fail starters’ according to Cash’s logic.
    _

    There was sarcasm in my post.

  2. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Nick in SF May 9th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    Didn’t Chris Nelson get a hit last night? Ended up on 3rd after Fowler botched the play?
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    Yes
    1st hit as a Yankee. Hoping that line drive to RC gets him going just a bit.

  3. Benny Blanco May 9th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Let me get this straight. Austin romine was pulled so that Stewart can catch mo? Wow!

  4. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    Benny-
    Of course. This is Mo we are talking about.
    Save situation. Best for the team to have a catcher that is the most familiar with Mo.
    Given the 2 choices, Stewart gets the opportunity and it’s the right decision.

  5. Warning Track Power May 9th, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    By the way, nothing would be finer then to see C.C. pitch like the “ace” he is and
    go 8 or 9 strong innings today for the victory.

    Go get ‘em C.C.
    Keep the ball down and give the Yankees that lift the team needs from their “ace”

  6. DONNYBROOK May 9th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    After the debacle of running Youkilis out there, and then having to DL him, I would think the Yanks will take plenty of time with Nunez. Still, to play a man short for roughly a week is Dumb.

  7. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 5m

    give mlb credit for admitting HR call blown. when replacement refs blew sea-GB game, nfl didnt admit it was INT, not TD
    ____

    Isn’t this irrelevant? They called it a judgment call but it wasn’t. Also, this is meaningless because they keep allowing Hernandez to umpire games and he has a HORRIBLE track record.

    Also, I apologize for forgetting about Nelson’s hit yesterday. I guess 1 hit is something.

  8. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    “I generally agree that managers have very little affect on the game itself, but when a team is handcuffed as the Yankees are, and is still winning, without it’s “stars,” then I do believe some credit has to go to the manager for getting the best he can out of the team he has to work with. And credit to the players who are not giving up or giving in.”

    Beautifully said Doreen. Girardi has been masterful in mixing and matching with the players he has been given, readjusting each time another player goes down. He knows each and every situation better than anyone else, certainly better than anyone here, and he manages according to what he feels gives the team the best chance to succeed.

    I also like that he does plug players in at different times so that they don’t just totally wilt and grow roots, the way other managers have done.

    Even if someone doesn’t totally agree with the way he manages, you’d really have to reach down deep into your hate bag not to acknowledge that he really cares about his players and wants them to succeed. In the midst of that he does have to manage to win games, so sometimes players won’t get into games when posters “know” they should be there.

    If only everyone could practice trying to understand the reason (smugness not necessary, I mean the baseball reason) the manager makes certain moves rather than automatically calling it wrong just because it isn’t the move that they want to see made, maybe it would expand their baseball knowledge and understanding even more. Just a thought.

  9. blake May 9th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    @RealCJ10: Since I can’t be fined for ripping umpires anymore, let me take this opportunity to express my displeasure w/ Angel Hernandez.

  10. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    I agree Doreen, Joe deserves some credits in holding up this team.
    ——–

    The dude has ran a pretty steady ship throughout his Yankees managerial career. At worst he’s just an average manager, but there’s no justification for some people’s hatred of him.

    Some baseball fans just assign more blame to the manager. I assume that’s league wide. My speculation has been it’s some sort of NFL head-coach conflation, but who knows.

  11. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    “Let me get this straight. Austin romine was pulled so that Stewart can catch mo? Wow!”

    Benny, you probably don’t want to get that one going again.

    :)

  12. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    I agree. Girardi is an average manager. Good at some stuff, like bullpen management, bad at others, like his myopic view of catchers.

  13. Nick in SF May 9th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    ac1,

    As the Who sang, you are forgiven.

  14. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Chipper Jones ? @RealCJ10
    Since I can’t be fined for ripping umpires anymore, let me take this opportunity to express my displeasure w/ Angel Hernandez.

    haha

  15. Captain Clutch May 9th, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    I wonder if the Yanks think that Youk will be ready to go on Monday when he is able to come off the DL. I haven’t heard any updates about him recently.

  16. blake May 9th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Rich in NJ says:
    May 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    I agree. Girardi is an average manager. Good at some stuff, like bullpen management, bad at others, like his myopic view of catchers.

    It’s hard to know how much of this is all Joe though…..I’ve heard both Cashman and Eppler say in interviews that they say the catcher position as defense first and offense as icing on the cake.

    I think they do value defense first there…..but it’s not like we have Buster Posey sitting over there either….I’m hopeful that either Murphy or Sanchez will make the whole catcher debate a non issue by making it obvious who should play…..

  17. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    I wonder if the Yanks think that Youk will be ready to go on Monday when he is able to come off the DL. I haven’t heard any updates about him recently.
    ____

    I highly doubt it.

    He hasn’t started hitting and I assume after missing 15 days plus 6 of the 7 before, he will need a rehab assignment. BUT….. Adams is eligible on 5/15 and Musty is getting ready too.

  18. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    “Since I can’t be fined for ripping umpires anymore, let me take this opportunity to express my displeasure w/ Angel Hernandez.”

    And there you have it.

    The guy’s reputation is legend. Yet MLB, Bud, and the ship of fools just keep collecting their paychecks and pretending there are no problems in Denmark.

  19. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    At least Girardi clearly chose Cervelli over Stewart before Cervelli got hurt.

  20. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    I think Girardi simply doesn’t want to overwhelm Romine. Doesn’t seem that unreasonable to me.

  21. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    They should have replace Francisco with Musty right after Nunez got hurt and they had no backup IF. Musty may not be hitting yet, but he has hit .300+ at every level of the minors so I don’t think he has anything left to prove in that regard. Besides, he’d be replacing a guy hitting .125.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    If you had to make a choice (stay with my hypothetical here) would you choose a good offensive catcher with so-so defensive skills, or would you choose a good defensive catcher with just so-so offensive skills.

    I’d always take the defense over the offense in that position.

  23. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    I am thinking if Murphy continue to rake and improve upon D, promotion to AAA after all star break out of question? Tangentially, Sanchez to AA? if they want to aggressive about it.

  24. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    *to be

  25. trisha - true pinstriped blue May 9th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    “I think Girardi simply doesn’t want to overwhelm Romine. Doesn’t seem that unreasonable to me.”

    Kev- quite a few of us have suggested that but not everyone wants to hear it.

    There are fans who want kids who come up to be put in the game as soon as they don their uniforms and they won’t accept anything less.

  26. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    “It’s hard to know how much of this is all Joe though…..I’ve heard both Cashman and Eppler say in interviews that they say the catcher position as defense first and offense as icing on the cake.

    I think they do value defense first there…..but it’s not like we have Buster Posey sitting over there either….I’m hopeful that either Murphy or Sanchez will make.”

    Obviously, we have imperfect knowledge. For example we don’t know what great trades or signings Cashman wanted to make but that were vetoed by ownership, and we don’t know what bad trades he might have made that were turned down by other GMs.

    But we do know that Girardi himself has said that he wants defense over offense, and now we are seeing him playing a journeyman at best over a kid with upside.

  27. jacksquat May 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    If JR Murphy continues to hit like he has so far at AA, and his defense is good, then absolutely he should move up to AAA at mid-season. Jose Ramirez should go with him.

  28. blake May 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    jacksquat says:
    May 9, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    At least Girardi clearly chose Cervelli over Stewart before Cervelli got hurt.

    Yea all things equal they’ll play the better hitter….I want Romjne to play but honestly I don’t know if he’d hit any better than Stewart….maybe a little but he’s not exactly a masher either

  29. Russell Munson May 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Is it possible that Chris Stewart’s pitch framing makes him better than people are giving him credit for?

  30. Barry May 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Is anyone comparing career minor leaguers with Kevin Youkilis…? Because, if your are, cut it out, please.

  31. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    “I think Girardi simply doesn’t want to overwhelm Romine. Doesn’t seem that unreasonable to me.”

    Two games a week is overwhelming? He said when Romine was called up that how he plays would determine how often played. That’s not what has happened.

  32. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    And part of it was two off days in one week, and then Girardi being gun-shy about starting Romine with Pettitte.

  33. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    I’d always take the defense over the offense in that position.
    ____

    Does Jorge Posada mean anything to you Trish?

    We won 4 titles with Posada. He was offense over defense. He wasn’t terrible but he wasn’t Yadier Molina.

  34. Captain Clutch May 9th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    I highly doubt it.

    He hasn’t started hitting and I assume after missing 15 days
    —————

    Considering how bad the lineup is I wouldn’t be surprised if they just throw Youk out there when he is healthy. Let him get his timing back in these games. It makes sense instead of continuing to send Nelson and Nix out there. I think everyone agrees about Adams and Musty but hopefully Cashman feels the same way.

  35. MaineYankee May 9th, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    I think the great Joe Madden chose defense over offense for his C.

  36. UnKnown May 9th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/.....ee-greats/

    ———

    This is sweet. Definitely can’t start them too young.

  37. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    I don’t buy the narrative that says Girardi doesn’t appreciate catchers who can hit. I don’t see a problem with a general preference that, given a choice between a catcher who is better defensively and a catcher who is better known for his bat, that they’d lean toward the better defensive catcher, BUT there’s a lot of gray area there, for me anyway.

    I’d bet the clear preference would be someone who could do both well. But you also and always have to figure in the Yankee bias for veterans. It is what it is.

    I won’t rake Girardi over the coals for going with Stewart in the ninth, but I’m not convinced of the necessity to do so. I also don’t think it’s that big a deal.

  38. blake May 9th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    “But we do know that Girardi himself has said that he wants defense over offense, and now we are seeing him playing a journeyman at best over a kid with upside.”

    Yea I guess we will see how long it goes on…..

  39. Russell Munson May 9th, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    A couple of examples of Stewart’s framing can be found here:

    http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=20459

    “The Yankees lost Francisco Cervelli to a fractured hand last Friday, but they replaced him with another receiver who’s at least as skilled. Stewart is 6’4″, and he told me he has a harder time getting to low pitches, but he handled this one well. He has a wide crouch that helps him get down, and he sets the target low. He had the sixth-best frame of the week earlier in the same game, on a very similar pitch:

    And he also recorded the 10th- and 11th-best frames of the week later in the same series. He’s not much of a hitter, but the Yankees will survive his offense as long as he keeps catching pitches like that.”

  40. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    I think Posada was a great hitter and good defender.

  41. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Romine wasn’t going to even split with Stewart right off the bat, and so far he’s 0/7. He’ll likely be worked in a little more going forward, 2-3 a week.

    It’s not like he has an impact bat, either.

  42. ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Stewart is playing better than anyone could have hoped, but they are killing Romine’s development by playing him once a week. At least split time.

  43. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I agree blake, I am not sure how much of an upgrade Romine is over Stewie offensively. need to see more. one thing i do know is that Romine was touted as defense first guy, his track record offensively is nothing to be too excitable it.

    I like offense , so I normally like good hitters manning every position. love to see good abs and runs!

  44. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    “I don’t buy the narrative that says Girardi doesn’t appreciate catchers who can hit.”

    It’s a narrative derived from his own words:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....nder-day-9

    NO ONE CATCHING ON YET: Joe said it was too early to designate anyone the front-runner in the what is expected to be a three-man competition for the starting catcher’s job among Chris Stewart, Francisco Cervelli and Austin Romine. Girardi also said that once the games start, offensive production will have very little to do with his decision. He’s looking for a defensive catcher, period.

  45. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    ac1 May 9th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
    Stewart is playing better than anyone could have hoped, but they are killing Romine’s development by playing him once a week. At least split time.
    ——-

    Or send him back down and pick up another journeyman catcher!

  46. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    Rich,

    But when both Cervelli and Stewart were looking good behind the plate… he went with the one that hit more…

  47. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    “I agree blake, I am not sure how much of an upgrade Romine is over Stewie offensively. need to see more. one thing i do know is that Romine was touted as defense first guy, his track record offensively is nothing to be too excitable it.”

    If he isn’t better than a guy with a 65 career OPS+, how was he ever considered the catcher of the future, enabling them to trade Montero?

  48. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Does Romine have upside?

  49. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    RadioKev

    But unlike Cervelli, Romine hasn’t got a chance to show what he can do offensively.

  50. Russell Munson May 9th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    “Stewart is playing better than anyone could have hoped, but they are killing Romine’s development by playing him once a week. At least split time.”

    I agree with this. Especially after all the time Romine missed last year.

    I hope they are actually working with Romine with plans to integrate him more frequently because this is really screwing with his development, but I think Stewart is better than he gets credit for. He’s kind of like Gardner because his contributions are more difficult to quantify.

  51. Captain Clutch May 9th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    I think Girardi has a tough time trusting young players. He likes veteran players with a track record and is scared of the unknown. It’s as simple as that.

  52. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    If he isn’t better than a guy with a 65 career OPS+, how was he ever considered the catcher of the future, enabling them to trade Montero?
    —–
    he might be Rich. We had this discussion before Rich, I think Joe is working him in slowly in terms of getting familiar with MLB hitters and his own pitchers. I think you need to give joe more time in this one.

  53. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    “I think Girardi has a tough time trusting young players. He likes veteran players with a track record and is scared of the unknown. It’s as simple as that.”

    I don’t disagree, but he had a rep even after the Marlins fired him of being good at developing young players.

  54. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    “he might be Rich. We had this discussion before Rich, I think Joe is working him in slowly in terms of getting familiar with MLB hitters and his own pitchers. I think you need to give joe more time in this one.”

    I have no choice, but I completely disagree with you.

  55. MaineYankee May 9th, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    During one game recently Cone was praising Stewarts ability to catch.

    Of course he wouldn’t have any reason to know anything about that.

  56. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    I think Yanks have tough time in trusting young players, period. If you don’t produce right away, you will be integrated in slowly. That is clearly the case to me. but i think catching position is a different animal in terms how much a young guy need to absorb at first.

  57. Russell Munson May 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    When he was managing the Marlins he was forced to use the players available to him on a shoestring budget. I don’t think we can use that as evidence that he has a special knack for developing young players.

  58. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Rich,

    Because who was he choosing from? Which of them is the offensive catapult in that group? Cervelli probably slightly better than the other two, since Romine has virtually no MLB experience.

    That being the case, yes, you choose the one you are most comfortable with defensively.

    If he had a catcher that was good at both, he’d play that catcher.

    I think he had questions about Cervelli’s defense, but once he showed he was up to the task, and had made improvements, he’s the guy who was getting the lion’s share of time behind the plate, because at the end of the day it is nice to have guys in the lineup who can hit a little. You honestly think Girardi doesn’t want guys who hit???

  59. blake May 9th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    “If he isn’t better than a guy with a 65 career OPS+, how was he ever considered the catcher of the future, enabling them to trade Montero?”

    Yea hopefully they’ll give him a chance to see…..

  60. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
    RadioKev

    But unlike Cervelli, Romine hasn’t got a chance to show what he can do offensively.
    ——–

    Because he isn’t as versed defensively!

    I think he’ll likely work his way up to actually splitting time with Stewart. It’s in the very early stages right now.

    I’m really either way on this. If Romine started, I wouldn’t argue against it. But I’ll defend Girardi’s decision so far, because it’s far from horrible. It makes sense. Really just doesn’t seem like a big deal to me.

    Long term it seems that Romine could be a solid/average starting catcher, but I don’t see him he’s setting the world on fire. I’m not sure there’s much indication to say he has any real “upside.”

  61. Cashmoney May 9th, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    I have no choice, but I completely disagree with you.
    —–
    none of us have any say in this, unless your are delusional as a blogger. but i respect your opinion, i think it’s matter different take in this particular case.

  62. RadioKev May 9th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    I’ve never been a major league catcher, but it seems to me there’s plenty of ways to develop as a rookie by just watching and listening.

  63. MG May 9th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    I don’t understand how Romine’s development is being ‘killed’ by having him sit on the bench for the past week or even for the next few weeks.

    This would have to go on for a whole season to make any difference and unless he starts producing in his limited appearances (so far he’s looked awful at the plate) he is going to wind up catching almost every day when Cervelli gets back in July.

    While he is with the big club he gets to observe as well as learn from both Pena and Girardi-that may not seem like anything to some of you but both guys were excellent defensive catchers (Pena more than Girardi) and Pena seems like someone who can really coach.

    Even if he only gets 12-15 games in the majors during his time with the big club he should get 70-90 games at Scranton, that’s a big step up from where he was last year.

  64. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Romine wouldn’t be up here unless Cervelli was hurt. He would be in SWB. Probably still should be. He was not called up because he was raking in AAA, or otherwise beating down the door to the majors. He was called up to be a replacement player, used when needed.

    He got into his first game right away, pretty much. And they learned something from that game. That he needed to get to know a little bit more about the pitchers. It’s easy to catch pitchers when they’re on their game. When they’re not, that’s when it’s important to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the guys, and a good feel for their personalties. I don’t see what the harm is in taking a week’s time to learn the ropes slowly. Cervelli’s out for at least another 5 to 6 weeks. Romine will play.

  65. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Just saw this:

    Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    I saw the replay from a couple of different angles. It was obvious that ball was a homerun. Maybe MLB should invest in something other than someone’s smartphone for replay review.

    LOL!!!! Given the way MLB operates, it would not surprise me at all that all of the umpires (except one) exit the field to gather around a smart phone lmao.

  66. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Doreen

    In a nutshell, that is letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

  67. MG May 9th, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    …wind up catching almost every day in Scranton when Cervelli gets back in July.

  68. Russell Munson May 9th, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    “Girardi also said that once the games start, offensive production will have very little to do with his decision. He’s looking for a defensive catcher, period.”

    I’d also suggest that what Girardi says to the media and what he’s thinking may not be the same thing. He may have been trying to motivate Cervelli to focus on his defense or alleviate the pressure of trying to hit .500 in the spring to win the job or something.

    I’m not the biggest Girardi fan, but he’s not a dumb guy. I think he’s a lot more calculating than people realize.

  69. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Rosenthal is spitting into the wind trying to get them to overturn that Hernandez call.. MLB would never do something so radical, the precedent would be ridiculous.

  70. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    I don’t agree with that Rich.

    But there are different ways. Some people believe in diving in, others dip their toes.

  71. jackamir May 9th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Like most of the drivel on this Blog I find this stuff about Romine hilarious. What is he Johnny Bench. NO!!!! He is a backup and Girardi is the manager…Stop already….Are you guys being paid for your opinion, let it lie…I think that the front office would tell Girardi to play Austin Romine if they did not agree with his assessment of this backup.

  72. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    “I’d also suggest that what Girardi says to the media and what he’s thinking may not be the same thing. ”

    Except it has been. What did he say when Montero got traded? That his development as a catcher wasn’t their problem anymore.

    They kept Stewart over Cervelli last season as a BUC.

    Now, Romine can’t get a sniff.

  73. luis May 9th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Good afternoon,

    Is the game going to be rainout?

    About Girardi’s believe in defense over offense in the C position, he has been very clear about it. I think Randy hit it on the nail when he says that Girardi’s high standards might be getting in the way.

    In any case, Posada was never considered a great defensive catcher… He was an offensive catcher, like Munson, Berra, Howard and Dickey before him… An offensive catcher has always been a part of the successful Yankee dynasties.

    Romine may not have upside, but he is still an unknown quantity… While Stewart is pretty much what it is… IOW, why not give the guy that has a chance of an upside over a career BUC?… Still, I think they are easing him up… Or at least I hope so.

    Girardi is very good at managing the BP and introducing arms in to the fold… but when it comes to position players his record is mixed

  74. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Doreen

    As the saying goes, experience is what you get while you are gaining experience.

  75. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Shame -

    Buster Olney was using the pine tar incident as precedence for overturning an umpire’s call and replaying the game from the point of contention.

    It sounded right to me.

  76. Russell Munson May 9th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    “Rosenthal is spitting into the wind trying to get them to overturn that Hernandez call.. MLB would never do something so radical, the precedent would be ridiculous.”

    If they do this, then they owe Armando Galarraga his perfect game too.

  77. willkamm May 9th, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    I think Posada was a great hitter and good defender.

    Posada’s OPS plus numbers are right up there with Berra and Bill Dickey.

    Jorge 121 Yogi 125 Dickey 127.

    Jorge was outstanding with the bat. Great discipline and excellent strike zone recognition. There is no one I’d rather have at the plate bases loaded if the team only needed one run. He really carried on the great Yankee tradition of catchers that could hit. Dickey, Yogi, Elston Howard, Thurman and Jorge were all good with the stick.

  78. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Rich, but you usually have a basic knowledge first, and then start gaining experience, and you don’t gain the full experience at first, but add pieces one by one.

    I think they were spooked by the Pettitte game. And I think it is because they cannot afford those kinds of games this season.

    If they weren’t compromised offensively, I think Romine is brought along differently.

    So they’re operating from a “defensive” point of view.

  79. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Doreen

    If they blame Romine for Pettitte’s game after he how pitched in the following game, they are nuts.

    Even Waldman said it, and believe me, she is loathe to criticize the Yankees.

  80. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Isn’t the difference between the replay on the perfect game and the replay on the HR that the HR replay is sanctioned and a part of the umpire’s toolbox, whereas the missed call in the Galaraga game is not reviewable?

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  82. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    They don’t BLAME him. They saw a potential weakness and decided to take steps to try and make sure Romine was better prepared for those kinds of outings.

    And what we don’t know is how much Stewart was able to keep Pettitte from completely losing it, as he did in the Romine game.

  83. luis May 9th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:56 pm
    Rich, but you usually have a basic knowledge first, and then start gaining experience, and you don’t gain the full experience at first, but add pieces one by one.

    I think they were spooked by the Pettitte game. And I think it is because they cannot afford those kinds of games this season.

    If they weren’t compromised offensively, I think Romine is brought along differently.

    So they’re operating from a “defensive” point of view.

    ===================================

    This is a very good point…. But it also shows where they missed as an organization… Point being that if they have developed and kept the talent traded, we probably would be having to ease Romine this way, since the offense could cover for Romine’s apprenticeship

  84. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Shame -

    Buster Olney was using the pine tar incident as precedence for overturning an umpire’s call and replaying the game from the point of contention.

    It sounded right to me.

    —————————

    I’d love to see them do it… but I think they will sit on their hands instead.

    Galarraga’s situation, while tragic for him personally, did not effect the ultimate outcome of the game.

    Personally I’m not a fan of redoing anything in a different game like Rosenthal suggests. The reality is that someone needs to be monitoring this stuff at MLB and be able to step in, in the moment. This is not a new concept. It requires no new technology. All it takes to implement it are two or three brain cells, and quite frankly I think we’re short a few.

  85. luis May 9th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Wouldn’t be having to ease…
    Sorry

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    Absolutely pouring rain here in Coors Field…and here comes the grounds crew to pull on the tarp…

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    Looks like the game is gonna be delayed a while. Pouring in Denver

  88. Rich in NJ May 9th, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    They don’t BLAME him. They saw a potential weakness and decided to take steps to try and make sure Romine was better prepared for those kinds of outings.

    And what we don’t know is how much Stewart was able to keep Pettitte from completely losing it, as he did in the Romine game.
    __

    Sorry, Doreen, but if they are doing this, it’s a self-perpetuating justification for narrow-minded thinking.

    It’s not like Stewart defensive game isn’t deeply flawed. That is part of the reason why at age 31, he has only played in 165 ML games.

    Think about that!

  89. willkamm May 9th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

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    Good afternoon,

    Is the game going to be rainout?

    About Girardi’s believe in defense over offense in the C position, he has been very clear about it. I think Randy hit it on the nail when he says that Girardi’s high standards might be getting in the way.

    In any case, Posada was never considered a great defensive catcher… He was an offensive catcher, like Munson, Berra, Howard and Dickey before him… An offensive catcher has always been a part of the successful Yankee dynasties.

    I would agree. Yankee catchers that could hit go all the way back to the 1930′s (at least) with Bill Dickey. I really don’t know how good Dickey was defensively but Yogi and Howard were very good. Yankee pitchers under Johnny Sain tutelage were great at holding runners on and both Berra and Elston had some great CS numbers.

  90. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Chad – Any word on if it will rain for the next 3 or 3 and a half hours in Colorado…?

    :D

  91. bruceb May 9th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Sorry to disappointment you, Shame, but Sweeny reckons about five mins!

  92. MG May 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    I am a huge Andy Pettitte fan so you would think I would like to find any excuse possible for a bad game from him but anyone who thinks that Romine played any role in his bad start when he was catching just is grasping at straws.

    What is even more ridiculous is blaming Romine for the next bad start.

    Andy has pitched in the bigs for over 15 years, he doesn’t care who he throws to.

    He’s been successful in limited starts with great catchers such as Chad Moeller and Joe Oliver, I doubt either of these guys knew more about him or pitch calling that Romine.

    If you look at his career stats, he only threw one time to Ivan Rodriguez and gave up 9 ER is 5.1 innings, do you think he would hesitate to throw to him again?
    http://www.baseball-reference......r&t=p

    I listened to Andy’s interview after the game, he didn’t blame Romine for anything, just said they couldn’t get on the same page but that he didn’t pitch well because he didn’t have his good stuff, something that was apparent in both of his last two starts.

  93. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    bruceb May 9th, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    Sorry to disappointment you, Shame, but Sweeny reckons about five mins!

    Even though they just put the tarp on…??

  94. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Wait…. it’s coming off now…??? It just went on!! I can track the time frame via twitter lol!

  95. luis May 9th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    willkamm,

    Berra was atrocious at first… He learned from Dickey and then he taught Howard… They were good defensive catchers but their bats is what separated them from the rest… Po was never a very good defensive catcher, he learned enough to be average for most of his career… Still he is top ten in his position all time… He is a HOF’er

  96. champ809 May 9th, 2013 at 3:10 pm

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    For example I’d like to see Jose Ramirez, Turley, Nuding, Tracy picth all year in AA and refine and master whatever their assignments are and become reliable every 5th day take the ball late into games starters. I’d also like to see Bleich get another shot in the rotation even if it means continuing with the 6 man rotation. I’d much prefer to see those guys throw 130-140 innings as opposed to prematurely move them up because of a few hot starts.

    Murphy on the other hand needs to be promoted soon. He should be in Scranton within the next month at the rate he’s going. Another 100-150 ABs and he should be ready. By that time I think Sanchez will be ready for a promotion as well.

    I would however like to see Slade and Tyler Austin spend the whole season in Trenton and get their 500 Abs at the AA level. I think it’s very important for them to get solid base underneath them as far as getting their games consistent and ready for prime time next year.

    Refsnyder most likely will move up with Sanchez and take over 2B in Trenton with maybe Pirela moving to Scranton in a utility role or playing 2b with Joseph moving over to 3B and Adams up with the big club.

    De Paula I think will definitely be promoted at this rate. Although he still needs to smooth some things out he clearly also needs to be challenged and a move up to Tampa is in order.

    I like that Cotham is up in Scranton as he was 1 of my sleeper SP this year and I think he’s ready to come on. In fact he, Brett Marshall and Dellin if he can keep this going along with Stoneburner give the Yanks some nice arms at the uppermost levels of the systems.

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    MG,

    Good post

  98. Shame Spencer May 9th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

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    Game starting. :(

  99. Doreen May 9th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    luis -

    If they didn’t trade any of the players that they traded in the last several years, you’re talking about an entirely different team.

    But you still can’t know how that entirely different team would be faring, nor any of the those players on that team.

    If the Yankees are so awful at developing players, isn’t it arguable that IPK would never have had a 20-win season? Isn’t it arguable that Melky would still be a 4th outfielder? Isn’t it possible that AJax would not have gotten past the strikeouts? And also arguable that Montero would be the guy being eased in, or failing in some other way? If the Yankees can’t develop players, that is?

  100. luis May 9th, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    Doreen,

    If they had enough patience, those kids would have panned out… More importantly, while the old core was still able to take the brunt of the responsability… Now we can’t afford to do that.

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    I always considered Posada a very good defender. And yes he was great offensively.

    However, I asked you not to change my hypothetical in your response. Jorge was far from a “so-so” defender.

    I asked whether you’d go with so-so offense or so-so defense at the position of catcher if the other trait was very good.

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