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Postgame notes: “He just continues to do it”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 12, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mariano Rivera

This series started with a practical joke, and it finished with a handshake. In his final trip to Kansas City — the site of last year’s devastating knee injury — Mariano Rivera laughed at the No Mo Zone, then he closed out the final two wins of a three-game Yankees sweep. Tonight he was honored by the Royals during a pregame ceremony, and the Kansas City crowd cheered as he came in to pitch the ninth.

“It was wonderful,” Rivera said. “The reason I say that is because they saw me last year going down here, and this year they see me pitching. I think they appreciate that. It was great. I said it before, they made me feel like I was at home. It was great.”

It’s May 12 and Rivera has 15 saves. He hasn’t blown one yet this season. He will retire having converted 29 consecutive save opportunities against the Royals, a streak that goes back to 1999. Think about that. It’s 2013, and Rivera hasn’t blown a save against the Royals this century.

“He just continues to do it,” Joe Girardi said. “Continues to locate. Gets a double play in the ninth inning that he needs. It’s amazing what this guy has done in his career. If anyone wants to argue he’s not the greatest closer of all time, I don’t know who it is.”

During the current five game winning streak, Rivera has four saves. It’s impressive, but it’s also kind of a problem because it means he’s pitched four of five days. So has setup man Dave Robertson. It’s entirely possible neither one will be available for tomorrow’s doubleheader.

But, for tonight, Rivera was available. He was healthy, and he was brilliant. Again.

“Everything is doing what it’s supposed to do,” Rivera said. “I’m getting the location, throwing the ball where I want to throw it. I’m getting the results. … We come here to compete. We don’t come here to do anything else but compete. The fans know that. You appreciate that, too. Yesterday they made me feel like I was from here. It was wonderful. I appreciate it. Thank God for that.”

Yankees Royals BaseballTwo quick notes about tomorrow’s games…

The Yankees have announced that David Phelps will start the first game and Vidal Nuno will start the second. I was fully expecting Adam Warren to be the Game 2 starter, and for Nuno to be replaced by Brett Marshall between games if Nuno were used in the opener, but I guess not. Nuno has pitched only once since coming up from Triple-A, and it was way back on April 29, but that one appearance spanned three scoreless innings.

The Yankees will add a 26th man tomorrow. They’re allowed to add one extra player for the doubleheader, but it has to be one player for both games. Someone is specifically called up, designated as the 26th man, and stays on the roster for the day. Looks like it will be either RHP Brett Marshall or 2B Corban Joseph, with the other likely hanging around in case the Yankees need to make a player move in the 20 minutes between games. There has been no official announcement about who will be activated.

The Yankees will be facing right-handed pitchers in both games: Justin Masterson in the first, Trevor Bauer in the second.

Hiroki Kuroda• Another fantastic start by Hiroki Kuroda, who’s now 5-2 with a 2.31 ERA. He gave up a leadoff double in the first, which led to a run, but the Royals didn’t score again — or have another extra-base hit — until the eighth. “He was throwing his two-seamer really well in the zone, getting a lot of ground ball outs,” Chris Stewart said. “Throwing his offspeed when he needed to. He was getting a lot of early contact outs, and that’s what he needs to do to get deep into the ballgame for us, and I thought he did real well.”

• Interestingly, both Stewart and Kuroda said Kuroda wasn’t at his best today. Stewart said he wasn’t “spot on” and Kuroda said he didn’t feel like he was “particularly good,” but obviously he made it work.

• It looked like Kuroda was certain to pitch through the eighth inning, but he allowed two doubles in the eighth, including a two-out double by Alex Gordon that chased Kuroda from the game. In an unusual show of emotion, as Kuroda was leaving the game, he actually got in a bit of an argument with home plate umpire Laz Diaz. Stewart said it was about the 2-0 pitch to Gordon, which Kuroda and Stewart thought was a strike. Falling behind 3-0 changed the at-bat. “It was the heat of the moment, during the game,” Kuroda said. “So I was kind of fired up, which is something I don’t like to do.”

• Stewart was 2-for-3 today, his fourth multi-hit game of the season.

Robinson Cano• Most of the offense, obviously, came from Robinson Cano and Vernon Wells, who hit back to back homers in the third. It was Cano’s 10th and Wells’ ninth of the season. Both Cano and Wells had two RBI, and they combined for five hits. Those two were each in a bit of a slump not so long ago, now they’re both on a bit of a roll.

• This is the second time this season that Wells has homered in back-to-back games. The Yankees have won the last six games in which Wells has gone deep.

• This was Cano’s 16th multi-hit game of the season. That’s reasonably close to half of them. “Every at-bat I feel good,” Cano said. “Sometimes I would say that I have to be a little bit more patient, too. I just go there and swing at the first pitch. That’s something that I’m going to have to start (working on) from now on, trying not to go out there and swing at the first pitch because it’s not working right now.”

• Final word goes to Wells: “I learned last year that you never say it’s early, good or bad. I think you like being in this situation, but at the same time, this game has a funny way of slapping you across the face at any point in time. We’ll go out and have the same mentality, to continue to get great starting pitching and score enough runs to support those guys.”

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281 Responses to “Postgame notes: “He just continues to do it””

  1. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    Up: w/in next week or so, maybe less:

    Nunez
    Adams
    Youk
    Rapada
    Granderson

    Down:

    Boesch
    Nuno

    Gone:

    Nelson
    Francisco
    Gonzalez

  2. Mike Ri May 12th, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Wells is a beast. What a pickup by Cashman

  3. MG May 12th, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    Shame the Rangers power play is so non-existent, and it’s costing them dearly…..
    —————————-
    they hang in there, though-there was no way they were going to lose this game in front of the Garden crowd and Lundquist was often spectacular…

  4. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Wells is a beast. What a pickup by Cashman
    =============
    Not to mention all the others which, in fact, the naysayers don’t and have you noticed the LoHud hit count is down….

  5. Barry May 12th, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Mick,
    I’ve noticed the hit count as well. For those who think Nelson will be gone, don’t hold your breath. He is doing all that they have asked.

  6. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    ““I learned last year that you never say it’s early, good or bad. I think you like being in this situation, but at the same time, this game has a funny way of slapping you across the face at any point in time. We’ll go out and have the same mentality, to continue to get great starting pitching and score enough runs to support those guys.”
    ———————————————————————————-
    …for just a second there, v wells became my favorite baseball player……

  7. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    Nelson is redundant with Adams coming on board and Nunez back soon + Youk.
    He might be trade bait with Joba.

  8. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    I guess we are in 1st place on the Green Monstah at Fenway now…

  9. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    …so, lemme get this straight….
    v wells actually LOWERS the yankees luxury tax #?
    did some evil genius work this plan out in some dark lair?
    who is this evil genius?

  10. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Incredible.
    The more we win the less posts we get.

  11. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    “The more we win the less posts we get.”
    ———————————————–
    when you consider that the jr. gm’s who know better than cashman and certainly girardi have been in primacy for a while, it’s not surprising.

    just think how much better this team would be with josh hamilton and jesus montero batting right there in the middle of the order!

  12. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    misery loves company.
    winning drives them away…

  13. fantasygame101 May 12th, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    interesting double header tomorrow. hope Claiborne will get the chance to close.

  14. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    claiborne is a keeper and joba’s days are numbered.

  15. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    girardi awed me the day he batted the pitcher 8th in colorado.
    i didnt find out till later that night.
    he had that game figured out from the first pitch to hafner coming up.
    the critics on here had a million reasons why he was an idiot for doing it.
    he forgot more crap about baseball than they (or I) will ever know.
    this team rocks and it’s the product of brian cashman and joe girardi.

  16. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    this team rocks and it’s the product of brian cashman and joe girardi.
    ===========================
    Hal put the wheels in motion by getting on board with the new CBA.
    He figured, unlike his Dad, they could get by with spending less money.
    Just look at the Tex and Arod contracts.
    They are a thing of the past and were bad for baseball in general.

  17. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    pitchers come and go like flies.
    you can always pick up a bat.
    a potential #2 pitcher for a “generational” hyped bat is a no brainer.

  18. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    the hamilton & pujols contracts ALREADY suck!

    the only huge thing the yankees did wrong was re-signing arod.

    his original contract was great.

  19. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    and everytime ‘contract value’ is ever mentioned on a yankees blog, participants should dip their heads when the name jeter comes up….

  20. mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9267867/joba-chamberlain-not-fit-wear-new-york-yankees-uniform-public-warning-mariano-rivera … from @ESPNNYYankees

  21. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    with all his tweeting surprised joba has had nothing to say about this:

    espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9267867/joba-chamberlain-not-fit-wear-new-york-yankees-uniform-public-warning-mariano-rivera … from @ESPNNYYankees

  22. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Ryan Howard’s contract is up there in the real bad contract category……..Albert’s is going to be a nutcracker for the Halos in about 3 years

  23. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    wait a minute.
    is this ‘shushing joba’ thing true?

  24. Sir Harden Thick May 12th, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    Ok so now what to do with Granderson, Wells, Gardner, Ichiro?
    I would try and trade Ichiro. Sell high, he is hitting, still quick, good d.
    If they unload that 6mil for 2014; would help a lot.
    Boesch can serve as the 4th OF with Almonte and Musty as depth.

  25. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    as true as when Chad Curtis dissed Jeter.

  26. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    i still think your sn should be banned
    but you have a point.

  27. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    why don’t you change that b.s.

    chad shouldn’t have to ask you

    if you want to participate, you should change your sn, imo

  28. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Ys Guy….Self esteem issues I suspect

  29. Benny Blanco May 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Jram had 9ks today

  30. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Roy Orbison – Only The Lonely (A Black & White Night) – YouTube
    ? 2:34? 2:34
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmN7dsheE8?

  31. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70vaj-AK4kE

  32. Ys Guy May 12th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    i always liked wells, and i always tried to put him on my fantasy team. but he always messed me up.

    worse than rios. worse than crawford. worse than a.j. burnett…..

    this year i never considered him for my team.

    i lose again!

  33. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    mick….my girl bonnie raitt was one of the backup singers…..I have this show on disc….great stuff mick

  34. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Thanks Pat M

    How did softball tourney go?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYmIkiaR9oc

  35. MG May 12th, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
    espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9267867/joba-chamberlain-not-fit-wear-new-york-yankees-uniform-public-warning-mariano-rivera
    —————————
    I agree 100%, Chamberlain should be traded to the 1st last place team that offers to take him…

  36. Doreen May 12th, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Y’s Guy,

    Wells is mine!!

  37. MG May 12th, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    They have 4 outfielders for 3 spots and each can play multiple positions.

    3 x 127 (number of games left)=381

    381/4= 95 games per player, or each guy can play 3 games out of 4 in the outfield.

    Throw in some DH games for Wells and Ichiro and possibly some games missed due to injury and each of them gets to play most of the games and the opportunity for Girardi to sit the guy who is slumping for a game or two.

    I don’t see the problem at all and they would be far better off keeping all of them to have bench strength in the postseason-if they had that last year Swisher wouldn’t have been playing right field in the 12th inning of game 1 of the ALCS and maybe they win that one and make it a series instead of getting swept.

  38. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Vintage Bonnie:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxo

  39. Jerkface May 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    I don’t see the problem at all and they would be far better off keeping all of them to have bench strength in the postseason-if they had that last year Swisher wouldn’t have been playing right field in the 12th inning of game 1 of the ALCS and maybe they win that one and make it a series instead of getting swept.

    Agreed. There is no problem. It gives them options. And I’d rather have 4 healthy, rested OFers going into the playoffs than a burnt out guy like Granderson & Ibanez were last year.

  40. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    mick….I fly to NYC Wednesday and the games start Saturday…..We’re playing in Queens somewhere. Five 7 inning games to see if we advance…Catching The Yanks Friday night, Motown Thursday night and Vincent’s Clam Bar ( Mott & Hester ) Sunday afternoon

  41. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Mick….Stickball

  42. MG May 12th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:36 pm
    Mick….Stickball
    —————–
    Pat M-Spaldeen, Pennsy Pinky, or Tennis ball for the tourney?

  43. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    the yankees have been lucky considering the quality of the offensive players they are running out there.

    it won’t continue.

    when something seems too good to be true, it usually is.

    they should be more like 20-16 which comes out 90 wins which is right where i figured they’d be.

    getting giddy 5 weeks after opening day over being a few games better than expected is silly

    it’s a long season.

    yankee attendance looks down about 5000 a game. it’s going to take more than one month for fans to think this is for real. i think most think it isn’t.

    the red sox were flying high until a little 2-10 was thrown in there.

    don’t think it couldn’t happen with this ragtag collection of “yankee” players.

  44. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    if you dont get chills to this one let me know:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxDVvwzRH4

  45. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    mick….Penn tennis balls…Strike zone is 2 x 3 which means slowing high floating breaking balls are going to be an advantage for the pitchers. Plus not too many guys can still throw that hard. I’ll be sitting dead red and then dial long distance

  46. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    and the grim reaper has returned :)

    can’t we enjoy the moment?

  47. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    pat m…best of luck…used to be a pretty good stickball player in my younger youth.

  48. MG May 12th, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
    mick….Penn tennis balls…Strike zone is 2 x 3 which means slowing high floating breaking balls are going to be an advantage for the pitchers. Plus not too many guys can still throw that hard. I’ll be sitting dead red and then dial long distance
    —————–
    back in the old days I had a 12-6 curveball that was unhittable when we played with tennis balls and you could always brush someone back with the high fastball when they started looking for the breaking ball.

    Sounds like lots of fun, good luck, Pat

  49. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    way to be “Realistic!”, Randy. Though I find it hard to believe you predicted 90 wins. You’ve been talking all season long about how this is the worst Yankee team ever, the manager, GM, coaches, and scouts should all be fired, blah blah blah. You probably predicted them for 70-80 wins, and that was largely based on their starting out of the gate poorly. So much for “Realistic!” hahaha

  50. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    MG….I’ve been able to hold my own in the 70 cages, it’s the bender that you described that will be tough because if thrown right it’ll be coming thru the zone shoulder high. Tomahawk swings will be in order especially with 2 strikes. 12-6 hook is almost impossible to square up

  51. jmills May 12th, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Mick, that Philippino desent lady should have won, America’s idol, last year.

    Tres fantastique!

  52. mick May 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    agree on jessica sanchez mills
    on that show the best doesn’t always win

  53. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    What Randy neglects to point out is this is not the Yankees’ team for the long term. This is the Band Aid Brigade. They’re not expected to carry this through the whole season–only to do so until the regulars come back between now and the All-Star break. The hardest part is already done. The “Realistic!” fans on this board were relying on a poor start to achieved their desire to get Cashman and Girardi fired. Now that this all but certain poor start did not come to pass, the “Realistic!” fans are scrambling for excuses.

    Give Randy credit for showing up though. Haven’t seen J Alfred Prufrock or CaptainClutch or Donnybrook since the 2-0 loss to the Rockies. They only show up for negative news or if the Yankees lose. LOL

  54. ac1 May 12th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Will they stick to what we heard and finally give adams a chance?
    Cashman must spend all night figuring out this roster management…
    I agree joba is trade bait with Claiborne pitching well..

  55. MG May 12th, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 8:52 pm
    MG….I’ve been able to hold my own in the 70 cages, it’s the bender that you described that will be tough because if thrown right it’ll be coming thru the zone shoulder high. Tomahawk swings will be in order especially with 2 strikes. 12-6 hook is almost impossible to square up
    ————————–
    my 12-6 hook left the building a long time ago, Pat, I used to try to mimic Camilo Pasqual’s over the top delivery. But having a strike zone on the wall would make it really tough to hit (we used someone else to umpire most of the time or the pitcher would call balls and strikes-that made for some great arguments).

    If I tried to pitch now, 40 years later, it would be more like Bud Daley’s slow, slow curve lol

  56. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    “can’t we enjoy the moment?”

    make up your mind.

    you can be left to enjoy the moment, but then don’t trash talk wondering where the opposing opinions are.

    i have no problem letting people enjoy the good times as long as they don’t question where people are who don’t like the make up of the team.

  57. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    I agree joba is trade bait with Claiborne pitching well..
    ==================
    Girardi’s job has been made easier by the Baseball Gods and the injuries bestowed on them.
    Thank god Cash had the wherewithal to find these guys..

    Really don’t know what the huggers are complaining about as our youth is serving us nicely with more to come soon.

  58. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    My hope was that they could play .500 until Mother’s Day , so they’ve surpassed my expectations in that regard…….As we spoke about during spring training, the pitching staff had to be the key in order to achieve and succeed…..However as Tin Cup has pointed out the date is May 12th, what are we 1/5 into the season…….Balanced perspective is key

  59. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    you can be left to enjoy the moment, but then don’t trash talk wondering where the opposing opinions are.
    ================================
    just admit that’s why you have been away then.
    sorry not accepting the busy excuse.

  60. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    MG……It’s going to be fun and interesting. I’m the oldest on my team of 55 and over. I do plan on hitting at least one out though

  61. MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
    MG……It’s going to be fun and interesting. I’m the oldest on my team of 55 and over. I do plan on hitting at least one out though
    ———————
    get some good photos and post them.

    And go yard a few times for us ‘old guys’ as well.

  62. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    “Though I find it hard to believe you predicted 90 wins.”

    before the season started, i said 91-92 numerous times.

    this was based mostly on good pitching.

  63. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    i have no problem letting people enjoy the good times as long as they don’t question where people are who don’t like the make up of the team.
    ========================
    oh and thanks for not raining on the parade
    as if letting us enjoy is the reason you don’t post.
    if they were losing you’d be here every day reminding
    you told you so.

  64. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Mr. mick,
    Your assessment of the absentees is on the money. But remember, Hale-Bopp will return!

  65. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    mr tom
    reporting from the poconos?

  66. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    mick are you saying you want to be left alone to enjoy the wins or not?

    make up your mind.

  67. MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
    “Though I find it hard to believe you predicted 90 wins.”

    before the season started, i said 91-92 numerous times.

    this was based mostly on good pitching.
    —————-
    randy, the Yankees are playing really good, winning baseball, you know that.

    Solid starting pitching, the bullpen has been great, and surprisingly excellent defense.

    Will they continue to play at a 102 win pace? Doubtful

    They will go into a slump at some point in time, all teams do.

    But we both know that baseball seasons are periods of playing .500 ball interspersed with 2-3 excellent streaks-they’ve gone 13 over .500 since starting 1-4, if they do that one more time during the season and play .500 the rest of the time they’ll be 23 games over .500 and win the East.

    They are going to get back a bunch of front line players soon, this has a chance to be a memorable season as Mo and possibly Andy and Jeter go out the door. Wouldn’t that be a great story?

  68. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    my mind is made up
    and so is yours randy
    these are not your yankees

  69. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm
    randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:07 pm
    “Though I find it hard to believe you predicted 90 wins.”

    before the season started, i said 91-92 numerous times.

    this was based mostly on good pitching.
    —————-
    randy, the Yankees are playing really good, winning baseball, you know that.

    Solid starting pitching, the bullpen has been great, and surprisingly excellent defense.

    Will they continue to play at a 102 win pace? Doubtful

    They will go into a slump at some point in time, all teams do.

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    And when that happens, you can expect the masses of “Realistic!” negative Yankee fans and Cashman haters that were posting here throughout spring to return and declare this team dead. Right now, they are nowhere to be found :)

  70. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    “Your assessment of the absentees is on the money”

    crap, you whined last week of having to drive 8 hours in a day two days in a row.

    i drove 28 out of 30 hours from miami to maine last month. slept two in a rest stop.

    so when you want to make a passive- aggresive comment about character why don’t you show some toughness and keep driving next time. weenie.

  71. Chambliss May 12th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Most Yankee fans figured that the pitching would be good, but few figured that guys like Wells and Overbay would step up the way that they have. So the pitching has been as expected and the hitters are overachieving, holding down the fort for Jeter, Arod, Granderson and tex.

    This could be a very entertaining summer.

  72. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Got to give credit to Trisha and Mick. They stood their ground pre-season while Captain Clutch, Donnybrook, and co. trashed the Yankees 24 hours a day, CERTAIN the team would fail this year after a TERRIBLE start.

  73. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Mick get over yourself. Do you really think that people stay away because the Yankees win and they may have to face Mick? Haha Thanks for the laugh :D

  74. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Want to do something fun? Go back to the lohud thread announcing the Yankees traded for Vernon Wells. See what the “Realistic!” fans had to say then. Re-post it if you get the chance too. I could use a laugh.

  75. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Mick get over yourself. Do you really think that people stay away because the Yankees win and they may have to face Mick?
    ============
    its not about me Tar but the naysayers have been distanced as they have nothing to nay about.

  76. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    mick-

    so you want people of opposing opinions to rain on your parade after wins? i’m sure i’m not the only one who will oblige you.

    as i said, you want to be left alone or not?

  77. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    mick,
    Pocono mission successfully completed. Winchester, VA tonight, home sweet East Nowhere tomorrow. Saw some of the last few games while in YES territory. It has been a remarkable April and May, so far. Could anyone ask any more of these guys than they have delivered to date? I, as of Mothers Day, 2013, have no beef with anybody about 2014 and beyond. The folks in charge may or may not have a handle on it. Let them get it done, in due time. They seem to confound expectations on a regular basis.

  78. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Mick,

    They’ll be back in full force as soon as the Yankees go on a losing streak. Unless the Yankees go 162-0, the naysayers will be here on their fanatical anti-Cashman and anti-Girardi crusade.

  79. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT3B5JwhK0

    for the naysayers

  80. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    tom

    is winchester in the shenandoah valley?
    blue ridge mt area?

  81. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    so mick, why is yankee attendance down so much with the team overachieving?
    inquiring minds want to know.

  82. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    as i said, you want to be left alone or not?
    ===============
    i’m sure you will say whatever you want randy and be my guest.

  83. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Clearly, the quality of the team is the only factor influencing attendance.

  84. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    so mick, why is yankee attendance down so much with the team overachieving?
    ===============
    who cares?

  85. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    ok mick i guess we have settled that.

  86. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    “its not about me Tar but the naysayers have been distanced as they have nothing to nay about.”

    Which naysayers mick?

    Randy is here, I am here, what other naysayers who have “nothing to nay about” are you missing?

  87. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    mick,
    Winchester is at the northern end of the Shenandoah. The Valley is bounded on one side by the Blue Ridge, with the Appalachians on the other. Truly beautiful place.

  88. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    inquiring minds want to know.
    =====================
    randy
    didn’t take you as a National Enquirer aficionado.

  89. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    if attendance is down significantly , then revenue is down.

    if revenue is down, it’s going to be hard to patch these $230 million payrolls together.

  90. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    Randy is here, I am here, what other naysayers who have “nothing to nay about” are you missing?
    ==========================
    they know who they are and they aren’t here.

  91. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    “Got to give credit to Trisha and Mick.”

    Mick are you obviousman?

    Sorry but I have to ask, because after all you are your own biggest fan.

  92. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Winchester is at the northern end of the Shenandoah. The Valley is bounded on one side by the Blue Ridge, with the Appalachians on the other. Truly beautiful place.
    ================================
    been there tom.
    are you near harrisonburg, va?
    by james madison univ

  93. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    tar i am mick, always have been.
    no time for that other nonsense.

  94. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Yes, Tar, obviously, I’m Mick. No more than one person would think the Yankees are playing well this year. We’re all the same person. Everyone else hates Cashman and Girardi like a true Yankee fan. hehe

  95. UnKnown May 12th, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    So it looks like Chris Sale wants to make a memory tonight.

  96. MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
    so mick, why is yankee attendance down so much with the team overachieving?
    inquiring minds want to know.
    ————-
    Not that I care (it’s their money, not mine) but it’s down about 3300 per game.

    20 teams are down in attendance so far this year

    the Yankees are about middle of the pack of the teams that are down on an absolute basis, on a %age basis to last year they are a few more below them.

    The Red Sox, Phillies, Rangers and Cubs are down more.

    The Rangers are also in 1st place, why is there attendance down more than the Yankees when they have so many great prospects in the system?

    Baseball revenue (and profitability) is increasingly dependent on TV revenue, they haven’t lost a dime of that so far.

  97. MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    here is the link to the attendance figures: http://www.baseball-reference......ance.shtml

  98. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Mick,
    Harrisonburg is a few miles down the road, will be going through early tomorrow.

  99. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Tar,

    How’s your quest to get Cashman and Girardi fired going? Not so great with this hot start, I imagine. For your sake, let’s hope they go cold, and fast, very soon. Meantime, I’d be curious to see what you had to say about the Vernon Wells trade the day it happened. Honesty, now, my friend :)

  100. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    tom

    taking 81 south home?

  101. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    mg-

    i don’t think this team excited many fans. now if they could keep playing above a .600 rate, that perception would probably change.

    the operative word is “if”.

  102. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    mick,
    81 to 77 to 85, then about 70 miles of yokel routes. The best part!

  103. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    http://www.magickeys.com/books/farm/page2.html

    listen for it

  104. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Randy is right—-the Yankees really do suck. The start was just lucky :) Fire Cashman, fire Girard like he wants.

  105. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    randy won’t be happy till ruth and gehrig arise from the dead to fulfill his idea of yankee tradition.

  106. Nick in SF May 12th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Please join me at Kru Restaurant on J Street to celebrate the Kuroda victory if you happen to be in Sacramento this evening.

    Note: Yankee supporters only.

  107. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    will ramen be served?

  108. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    “Not that I care (it’s their money, not mine) but it’s down about 3300 per game.

    20 teams are down in attendance so far this year”

    Yankees haven’t been lower than 2nd in attendance for years. Currently they are 6th. I have them down over 6000 per game this year, and over 9000 from 3 years ago.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

  109. MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Randy, there attendance is down 8.1% vs 2012, wake me up when it drops by 50%. I just don’t see the relevance for a fan.

    Back in the days of the Mick, Whitey, and Yogi, how many people did they average in the ballpark? Maybe 25,000 at most because 2M in attendance was considered a big year back then.

  110. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    if you roll the cursor over the horsey he will nay for you

    try it, it’s fun…

    http://www.magickeys.com/books/farm/page2.html

  111. MG May 12th, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    tar, your link uses data from the whole season, mine is the similar period from 2012 to this year’s attendance to date.

    Early season attendance is always lower than later in the year because of weather and school…

  112. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Mo is the GOAT

    http://www.magickeys.com/books/farm/page8.html

  113. mick May 12th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    randy was just here to antagonize

    mission unaccomplished

    he has fled

    buh bye….

  114. bruceb May 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    No guarantee this team will be better once Grandy, Tex and, dare I say, ARod return. In fact, come July we could all be longing to have Jeff Nelson back!!!

    The only one you can almost guarantee making the lineup better is Jete, and even then we want the 2012 model rather than 2011 one.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  115. blake May 12th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    Fun little stretch the yanks are on…..they are just pitching so well as a team. The bullpen just doesn’t give up runs and when that happens then you can get away with scoring 3 or 4 runs a game…..I don’t know how sustainable it is to keep winning like this but their pitching is really good…..so we shall see…..

  116. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    “How’s your quest to get Cashman and Girardi fired going?”

    Quest? Oh please cowardlyman I am too full laugh.

    The Yankees winning doesn’t change the fact he can be a complete classless jerk. His nature will shine through once again of that I am sure.

    On his behalf, Cashman is a great dumpster diver, I will ( and have posted that many times) give him that. this year is a dumpster divers dream. Good for the Yankees

  117. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    “randy won’t be happy till ruth and gehrig arise from the dead to fulfill his idea of yankee tradition.”

    i’m just being honest about who i’m rooting for. rooting is a kind of odd thing anyway. it’s kind of dumb in a way to spend so much time rooting for someone else to “win”. people who aren’t into sports just don’t get the rooting for a team thing.

    how does someone stop rooting for a team they have followed for a long time. i’m not sure but i followed the giants form robustelli and gifford and huff and conerly and webster to simms and morris.
    and then i stopped caring. i haven’t watched a game in years. same with the celtics. cousy and heinson and russell all the way to bird and parish and mchale. then i stopped caring. you couldn’t pay me to watch a celtic game.

    will this happen with the yankees with me if hal and cashman stay long enough? maybe.
    i know if i owned a team, i’d make a point to understand why a fan roots for a team.
    it’s not a given that fans stay fans.

  118. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    “tar, your link uses data from the whole season, mine is the similar period from 2012 to this year’s attendance to date.
    Early season attendance is always lower than later in the year because of weather and school…”

    Thanks MG that makes sense. How does it compare to 2010?

  119. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    they move runners which mean there are runners on base to be moved.
    why is it that last year all we heard, and it was true, was that they didn’t hit with risp.
    now they are and should continue to do so.
    and the pitching seems to be a given, even to the gloomy critics.
    so what is the problem with this team as is and with the regulars returning no less.
    maybe the critics love this team so much but can’t admit it as their prognostications would be wrong.
    god forbid they are wrong.
    maybe they just fear the return of arod , granderson and tex as they might destroy the chemistry.

  120. blake May 12th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    @Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs agree with Rizzo on 7-year, $41 million contract. Deal runs from 2013 through ’19. Story coming on http://t.co/zOZKNMciXb.

  121. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    “randy was just here to antagonize”

    actually i came on because you were running your mouth.

    i tend to leave nice people like doreen, and yankeefeminista and blake and mtu alone to enjoy wins.

    if you want to kick the sleeping dog, that’s your problem :)

  122. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    randy i know you are old but sorry if i woke you out of your sleep.

  123. Nilsson May 12th, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Be care what you wish for? That’s something you say to people who want to blow up the team and start from scratch … you know to be a crappy team like the Mets.

    Getting back everyday regulars like Granderson is a good thing. Overall, it makes the team better. Don’t buy the narrative and conventional wisdom.

    Assuming things go smoothly at Scranton, Girardi and the team will gladly welcome back Grandy. The timetable for Tex and A-Rod (including his PED investigation) is more uncertain though.

  124. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    how does someone stop rooting for a team they have followed for a long time.
    ===========================
    that is the crux of it.
    i actually do understand this as i have started a drive by campaign towards the jets.
    mostly because of the coach and his bluster.
    it is hard to root for them and invest the emotions and time into a product that basically is fraudulent.

  125. MG May 12th, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
    “tar, your link uses data from the whole season, mine is the similar period from 2012 to this year’s attendance to date.
    Early season attendance is always lower than later in the year because of weather and school…”

    Thanks MG that makes sense. How does it compare to 2010?
    —————
    I don’t know, you would have to research it on Baseballreference.com, I’m sure it is there somewhere.

    If you go back and look at Yankees attendance historically, though, you will find that the dynasty teams of the ’50, ’60′ and ’70s drew far less than the current team and the 1998 team, which was the greatest Yankees team since 1961, drew just under 3M-they are running at about a rate just above that right now.

  126. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    “Meantime, I’d be curious to see what you had to say about the Vernon Wells trade the day it happened.”

    The following was my first response to the trade. When I said swap I meant roster swap. Which is pretty much how it went it down.

    Now I did think they paid too much and I still think they paid too much. But he’s been a great addition and its only Hals money so I’m A ok with it. :wink:

    What was your response cowardlyman? oh wait we don’t know your real handle…..

    Tar March 24th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
    If this is a Wells for Rivera swap, with little to not much going the other way, OK.

    If they give up anything of value for Wells, I just give up.

  127. blake May 12th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    Pujols is hitting .234 in mid may

  128. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    without knowing anything about the inner workings of yankee fiscal matters
    i would say if they got wells they got him at a good deal.
    the biggest criticism of hal is that he is cheap , so why would he make a bad investment on wells?

  129. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    we have phelps and an unknown minor leaguer going tomorrow and yet i feel good about their chances.

    why is that?

  130. Nick in SF May 12th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Duck Confit Ramen, a contemporary twist. You know it’s a gourmet place when the serving is half as big as you’re expecting but ends up being appropriate. Hitachino Nest beer from the Kiuchi Brewery. Delicious.

  131. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    “i actually do understand this as i have started a drive by campaign towards the jets.”

    fans are like return customers. a team really has to be careful when they change the culture of a team. they may lose fans they’ll never get back. i don’t think hal has a clue about the yankees i grew up with. i don’t think hal will succeed with the yankees. i think it’s going to be a slow decline under him. why should i or anyone else root for this slow decline if they actually think that’s what’s happening.

  132. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Can it Randy you’ve spent more energy rooting for a plummeting stock than you have for the New York Yankees. You may have predicted 90 wins but you were frothing at the mouth at 1-4 saying it would be better to be so far back at the break that they would blow up the team. Without outright predicting it, you clearly hinted at a lost season. This team is legit. Too bad you can’t come in here every loss and talk about Montero going 1-5 or hitting a double. The only thing you accomplished by doing that ALL YEAR last year was rouse up all these posters now who only ever wanted to cheer in peace. You basically cornered yourself and would have to admit you went overboard in order to celebrate with us. But instead, you choose to not join the party so you can salvage some slim hope that your gloom and doom B.S. was right.

    Obviousman, I’d love to see the Vernon Wells thread. I remember an exchange I had with Jerkface or Rich in NJ (it’s extremely difficult for me to tell them apart as their views are nearly identical on every player and every issue or top from law to accounting to statistics etc. etc.). He was saying Vernon Wells would not be a starter in 2014 and was essentially washed up.

  133. bruceb May 12th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    Home run Grandy is a good thing. Strikeout Grandy is not. It will be up to Girardi to integrate these players back into the team without upsetting the balance or leaving one player sitting on the bench too long. I can fully understand his desire to play Stewart behind the plate whenever he can, but I do worry about how it will affect Romaine.

  134. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    “the biggest criticism of hal is that he is cheap , so why would he make a bad investment on wells?”

    Thats a good question.

    It’s been out there that Cashman really wanted him beforehand. With the roster issues at hand, I guess Cashman got desperate enough to say, hell with it we need him. So they overpaid for him.

    If Cashman had waited the Angels out he probably could have gotten him for a song and a dance. But kudos to Cashman for not taking a chance on losing him even though it took an overpay.

  135. luis May 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Listen guys… The team has over performed… Overall stats say so ( pitching 12th and batting 27th )… Let’s rejoice on the results so far… But the “Nay sayers” or “realistic” fans had and have a point… Why not leave them alone?

    FTR: According to some posters standards I am part of that group. Oh! Cowardly Man ( I like it Tar!)… I don’t think anyone on their right mind would think that writting on a blog will get Cashman fired, so please stop the nonsense

  136. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    Luis

    You are not supposed to be here, it ruins micks narrative.

  137. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    bret the hitman-

    how do you know what i did last year? weren’t you banned then for harassing females on the blog?
    you better get some more coconut oil in that brain of yours. it’s running low on energy.

  138. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:36 pm

    It’s been out there that Cashman really wanted him beforehand. With the roster issues at hand, I guess Cashman got desperate enough to say, hell with it we need him. So they overpaid for him.
    ====================================
    Or maybe they did some research on him and found out why he plummeted and what he has done to correct these issues figuring NY was the right place to do it in.
    Plus, they got a good deal on him with LA paying most of the freight like they did with Arod a long, long time ago.

  139. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    The team has over performed…
    ===================
    You do not know this as you cannot predict the future.
    I know this b/c if you could you would be a rich man from the correct stocks you bought.

  140. luis May 12th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:33 pm
    Luis

    You are not supposed to be here, it ruins micks narrative.

    ==========================

    I actually think that Mick is a good guy…. He just likes to stir the pot ;) … But yeah, I shouldn’t be here ;)

  141. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    a team really has to be careful when they change the culture of a team.
    ==================================
    but fans were clamoring to change the culture last season with their impotent offense.
    now they are playing the small ball many wanted and winning and they get criticized.
    this seems like an ego thing among some, a very few, that predicted gloom and now have egg on their face.

  142. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    The entire blog knows I told a tasteless joke and in case you missed it I explained in public to Chad Jennings that since I had been vocal about my location (deep south) leading up to the joke I thus assumed the joke was in context, also the first line reference to a woman was a “southern belle”. I don’t harass women Randy. I harass blowhards who can’t admit when they’re wrong and who have to turn personal (like you JUST DID at 10:33) when somebody points out that your contributions have been weak with the Montero hype being your sole focus. And anyone who knows how to read English could plainly tell that your head was so far up Montero’s poop shoot last year that you the lingering effects of suffocation are still inhibiting neurotransmission in YOUR brain cells. And no amount of coconut oil can correct that. You don’t need to be logged into an account to figure that out. Heck you don’t even have to be a LoHud member to have witnessed it, banned, unbanned, never been banned, not banned, always banned, soon to be banned.

  143. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    He just likes to stir the pot
    ===================
    Hey!
    We have more posts here tonight b/c of me than we had on the game thread.
    Suck on it Luis ;)

  144. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    luis May 12th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Listen guys… The team has over performed… Overall stats say so ( pitching 12th and batting 27th )… Let’s rejoice on the results so far… But the “Nay sayers” or “realistic” fans had and have a point… Why not leave them alone?

    ———
    Those rankings are a non sequitur. The overall stats show them outhitting and outscoring their opponents. Yes, they’ve won a lot of close games, and they might be a couple of games ahead of where they might be expected to be, given their run differential. Still, their performance to date isn’t a fluke.

    A lot of the naysayers never had a point. And a number of the ones that actually had a point, never tired of belaboring their point ad nauseum.

  145. luis May 12th, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
    The team has over performed…
    ===================
    You do not know this as you cannot predict the future.
    I know this b/c if you could you would be a rich man from the correct stocks you bought.

    ////

    Mick,

    The stats are a cumulative record of the different teams in MLB… Being 12th in pitching ( with a BAA of 273/443/724 ( I think this are ) good for 27th place ) and 28th in Batting stats tells you that we should be a middle of the pack team… Yet, we are in first place with the second best record of MLB… We have over performed, there is nothing wrong on saying that… The question is Will they keep this up? or will they go down closer totheir mean?

    Frankly, I hope they keep it up… But if they go down to earth it wouldn’t surprise me either.

  146. yankeefeminista May 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Josh Norris @jnorris427 13m
    Got 3 minutes? Check out every pitch of Jose Ramirez’s nine Ks this afternoon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be … @TrentonThunder #Yankees

  147. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    luis…see ghostwriter @ 10:42 , he will explain it better than me.
    And btw, this aint football, its baseball.

  148. bruceb May 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Jeff Nelson??? Must have been drinking too much tonight. I meant Chris Nelson, of course!!!

  149. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    The stats are a cumulative record of the different teams in MLB… Being 12th in pitching ( with a BAA of 273/443/724 ( I think this are ) good for 27th place ) and 28th in Batting stats tells you that we should be a middle of the pack team… Yet, we are in first place with the second best record of MLB…

    ========

    Ordinal rankings are irrelevant. The Yanks have hit .255/ .321 /.746 and their opponents have hit .59/.315/.721. The Yanks have 500 TB to 485 and 153 runs to 136 for their opponents.

  150. Nilsson May 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    bruceb, right now the team is winning with an everyday 39-year-old right fielder who is producing an OPS+ around 89. There’s a chance, a good chance, Granderson can do better. I’m not picking on Ichiro. I like him. I’m just stating Granderson can improve the team when he returns.

  151. randy l. May 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    “Heck you don’t even have to be a LoHud member to have witnessed it, banned, unbanned, never been banned, not banned, always banned, soon to be banned.”

    bret the hitman-

    well, at least you don’t even think about being banned any more :)

  152. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    “Or maybe they did some research on him and found out why he plummeted and what he has done to correct these issues figuring NY was the right place to do it in.”

    Thats a given. The question is what did the Angels think of Vernon? My answer is not much. I bet when the deal went down they were laughing all the way to the bank. For now anyway, It looks like Brian got the last laugh.

  153. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    That being said, I feel somewhat uneasy that Cashman’s greatest skill is dumpster diving. But Vernon Wells is on pace for 40 HR and an .875 OPS, solid defense, great clubhouse presence and protection in the lineup for our best hitter who is on pace for 45 HR and positioned for an MVP chase hopefully. Bear in mind, we did not trade a single prospect of significance for Vernon and he will cost 2 million against the 2014 payroll. ON WHAT PLANET, is that an overpay?

    Moving on, I’d like to extract the remaining viruses on this steam. Joba Chamberlain needs to go. And while I’m OK with 4 players in the OF when Granderson returns, I’d really like for Mr. Dumpster Diver to piece together some kind of package (Joba, Grandy/Gardy, prospect) for a 3B or a package (Joba, Grandy/Gardy, Nunez) for a SS.

    The left side of the infield is weak and we can’t count on either Arod or Jeter at this point.

  154. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    mick,
    It’s a lot more fun to go to bed having enjoyed the day and expecting the best for tomorrow. Life is easier to take that way, even if “tomorrow” turns out to be disappointing. There’s always another one, until there isn’t.

  155. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    The way I see it, this blog has been forever torn apart by the Montero-Pineda (yes 2 players were involved) trade.
    We are all Yankee fans here (well maybe not Randy anymore) but isn’t it more fun to debate and argue?
    If we were all agreeing on everything this place would be kumbaya and what fun is that?
    Well, maybe for the Breakfast Club…

    Can’t wait for Tuesday , when my fav. club the Seattle Monteros come to town for 3 whole days. Whoopee!

  156. Nick in SF May 12th, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Can’t comment on these blogtroversies as I’m getting buzzed on this Hitachino Nest from the Kiuchi Brewery. Seeing the teemendous indie rock band Yo La Tengo at Harlow’s down the street afterwards. Will have to have my last beer around when the show starts, unfortunately, but that will be for the best, I’m sure.

  157. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    I’d like to get Headley or Aybar.

  158. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    . The question is what did the Angels think of Vernon?
    ========================
    part of his problem could have been lack of use in LA.
    They had no room for him in their OF.
    He is getting meaningful minutes here and has stopped trying to pull everything, maybe b/c of the deep OF.

  159. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    “We are all Yankee fans here (well maybe not Randy anymore) but isn’t it more fun to debate and argue?”

    I’m not sure it’s more fun, but there is nothing wrong with it.

    Anyway, I’m excited to see what Nuno can do.

  160. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    mick….Vernon is healthy to start with, and if you look back to last May, he was hitting well before he tore up his hand in San Diego…..I had wagered LGY that Vernon was going to post better numbers than Nick Swisher last season…..Injury ended any chance of winning that bet

  161. mick May 12th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    mick,
    It’s a lot more fun to go to bed having enjoyed the day and expecting the best for tomorrow. Life is easier to take that way, even if “tomorrow” turns out to be disappointing. There’s always another one, until there isn’t.
    ====================
    tom
    very good observation but what are you responding to? ;)

  162. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    That being said, I feel somewhat uneasy that Cashman’s greatest skill is dumpster diving.

    ====

    Why? The pejorative expression aside, I would rather have a GM that is capable of identifying and acquiring undervalued players than one that is perpetually signing guys, coming off career years, to top-dollar contracts.

  163. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Pat M…if you need an emergency stickball player give me a shout in here…I might be a difference maker.

  164. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Nilsson May 12th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    bruceb, right now the team is winning with an everyday 39-year-old right fielder who is producing an OPS+ around 89. There’s a chance, a good chance, Granderson can do better. I’m not picking on Ichiro. I like him. I’m just stating Granderson can improve the team when he returns.
    ==

    Granderson definitely will improve the team when he returns. However, the gain will come from squeezing out Francisco and/or Boesch, and not necessarily Ichiro. MG had a very good post earlier in this thread where he demonstrated that there is plenty of playing time to go around. Moreover, Granderson’s return will help Girardi keep his horse fresh as we enter into the heart of the season.

  165. tomingeorgia May 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    mick,
    Not responding to anything in particular, just on the chasm between the camps that seem to have formed here. You wrote some time ago that for no particular reason, you felt good about tomorrow. Well, so do I, that’s all.

  166. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    ” Bear in mind, we did not trade a single prospect of significance for Vernon and he will cost 2 million against the 2014 payroll. ON WHAT PLANET, is that an overpay?”

    I read most executives though Vern would go for about 5 mil a year. Tell me what the Yankees paid again?

  167. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    Pat M…Swisher and Martin vs Wells and Overbay, throw in Youk are opposite ends of the spectrum ballplayer-wise.

    While Martin wasn’t here for his bat, Swisher and he were as Luis says, “hero swingers”
    where is the advantage in that approach.

    Selfish vs unselfish…individual vs team players?

  168. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Ghost,

    While I would agree on principle on what you are saying ( Yankees out pitching and out hitting their opponents ) and also that the pitching stats might be skewed by Nova’s outings and Hughes early starts ( meaning that our current ranking would be much better if you take those out )… At somepoint, the team’s record would have to reflect those rankings… Our run differential is not big enough to sustain the pace we are having… Of course, Baltimore did it the whole 2012 season… There is no reason to think that we can’t do it as well, especially if you take into account the reinforcements we should be getting… But, is not out of the realm of possibility a return to the mean.

  169. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    You wrote some time ago that for no particular reason, you felt good about tomorrow. Well, so do I, that’s all.
    ===============
    Thanks for that cogent observation my friend and for teaching me the meaning of ad hominem.

  170. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Ask those executives how they feel now about the value they set keeping in mind they walked away from the auction empty handed.

  171. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    “part of his problem could have been lack of use in LA.
    They had no room for him in their OF.”

    Exactly my point.

  172. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    “Ask those executives how they feel now about the value they set keeping in mind they walked away from the auction empty handed.”

    Do you really think executives base their opinions on six weeks?

  173. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    Selfish vs unselfish…individual vs team players?

    ____________

    This is exactly what’s going on.

  174. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    “Ask those executives how they feel now about the value they set keeping in mind they walked away from the auction empty handed.”

    Hindsight.

    I’m not saying that right now Vern is not worth it ( i’m loving him on the team), but at the time of the deal something made Cashman pull the trigger and pay top dollar.

  175. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Ghost,

    I would prefer a GM committed to rebuilding the core and getting younger

  176. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    6 weeks is enough time for doubts or remorse to creep in.

  177. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Prediction:

    Game thread this Tuesday will approach 750 hits.

    Any other opinions?

  178. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    He did not sacrifice a single prospect of significance. It was strictly money. It was a strong deal and the best one out there for the Yankees at the time. I don’t care if they paid top price if it was the one deal that made sense.

  179. blake May 12th, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    I think the primary critique of the Wells deal was if they were willing to pay 13+ million for him now then where was that money back in the winter? The answer is really that the needs changed and they felt like they had to spend it…..

    It’s no risk other than the money and obviously their very good pro scouting department saw something in him that suggested he might could play better…..he’s been a godsend so far

  180. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    The other thing about the $13m is what else could it be spent on during the course of the season if Hal isn’t willing to continue to spend?

  181. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    I think the primary critique of the Wells deal was if they were willing to pay 13+ million for him
    ==========================
    Isn’t 11m of that for this year when their is no LT consideration?
    2m is next year, peanuts.

  182. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    Ghost,

    While I would agree on principle on what you are saying ( Yankees out pitching and out hitting their opponents ) and also that the pitching stats might be skewed by Nova’s outings and Hughes early starts ( meaning that our current ranking would be much better if you take those out )… At somepoint, the team’s record would have to reflect those rankings…

    Not necessarily. Ordeinal rankings are pretty arbitrary, and aren’t predictive. Head-to-head scoring and defense are much more predictive.

    Their run differential currently has them on pace for a 91-win season. They are somewhat over-performing their run differential. However, 102 wins won’t be necessary to win the AL EAst. Moreover, they are winning with some of our most productive offensive players on the shelf. I suspect that their run differential will grow with increase run production, as we get guys back from the DL.

  183. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Well I wanted that 13 spent on Melky Cabrera so glad they don’t listen to LoHud (Randy being an exception of course, he’s special advisor to Neil Allen’s cat’s cousin’s owner’s daughters ex boss’s niece).

  184. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    How will Wells be used when Grandy returns?
    As a starter vs RH pitching, giving each OF a rest, say 3x a week + vs all LHers should not cut much into his p/t.

  185. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Ghost,

    I would prefer a GM committed to rebuilding the core and getting younger
    ==

    I’ll take one that wins.

  186. hardwired7 May 12th, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Wiffle ball movement on those Ramirez pitches.

    That does not look like a fun AB.

  187. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    I would like anyones opinions on why the amount of hits has decreased , say 25%?

    I know certain posters like CB, SJ44 and Peterman’s odyssey to the Globe are factors but who else was there, I forget.

  188. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Rich,

    You base your opinion on six weeks when it suits you. If the Yankees were 13-23 right now, you’d be calling for Cashman’s head every other minute on the basis of that start. Because they started well, which doesn’t fit your negative narrative, you say, “it’s only six weeks.” That’s the problem with this blog. You, Luis, Randy, Donnybrook, and a slew of other posters do nothing but cherry pick to promote your agenda of firing Cashman and Girardi. If they are not perfect, which no GM or manager is, you hound on that imperfection non-stop on this blog, ignoring all else. We get it. You hate the GM and you hate the manager. But bottom line, the evidence thus far, which is all we have to work with, indicate you and Luis were DEAD WRONG about Cashman and Girardi. But you cling to these views like your very life depends on it. Pretty sad.

  189. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    There was this guy Bodhi who was a big Melky fan. He left after the Vazquez trade. Others left after the Austin Jackson trade and the Jose Tabata trade. Some will never return after the Montero trade (don’t get your hopes up too high tho Mick)

  190. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    mick….It’s not my team however I’ll find out if Tim is still looking for one more player….Team fields 8 players and I think you can carry up to 15 players….We’re in the 55 and over flight and do you live in the NYC area ???

  191. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Rich in NJ and Jerfkace, who were deadset against the Wells deal, wanted Cashman to instead spend the money on Melky Cabrera. No joke. That’s why Cashman’s the GM, and Rich and Jerkface are stuck with complaining about him on an Internet message board. No coincidence.

  192. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    brettero-
    Name names. Are you saying you think ppl leave after bad trades?
    And who has left for the Pineda, err I mean Montero trade?

  193. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    Pat M are you playing in Astoria?

  194. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    Then there was mystery “insider” posters who livened the blog with rumors during trade deadlines and offseasons. They left. One was “Bobcat” the other was “Lost in Tex-as”. Twitter took him. It will take Nick in SF. CR scared off Doreen for a while. She’s back. GB brought fans and incited trolls (which increased hits).

  195. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    OM (or Stone)

    You’re really missing the point.

    When Wells was slumping last week, what did I post?

    That we would know more in a few months. That was as true then as it is now.

    So I have been totally consistent.

    As for Cashman, I view baseball differently than you.

    I want a team that prioritizes building from within, not just taking fliers on aging players in the hope of a resurgence.

    If that means losing in any given season or even a couple of seasons, so be it.

    That’s a rooting preference.

    The irony is the person with an agenda is you.

  196. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    YF,

    Excellent video… Nice clean mechanics… Balanced delivery most of the time… Very low arm slot if you ask me, but it works… Very good CU and FB… His slider was very good but I think he needs to alter the arm slot to be closer to his FB and CU, otherwise batters will know what’s coming and adjust to it

  197. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    I want a team that prioritizes building from within,
    ===========================
    Aren’t they doing that now more than ever?

  198. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:21 pm
    OM (or Stone)

    You’re really missing the point.

    When Wells was slumping last week, what did I post?

    That we would know more in a few months. That was as true then as it is now.

    So I have been totally consistent.

    As for Cashman, I view baseball differently than you.

    I want a team that prioritizes building from within, not just taking fliers on aging players in the hope of a resurgence.

    If that means losing in any given season or even a couple of seasons, so be it.

    That’s a rooting preference.

    The irony is the person with an agenda is you.

    ===================================

    +1

  199. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Twitter took him. It will take Nick in SF.
    ======================
    Don’t you have to have a following to survive on the Twitter?

  200. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    Mick I don’t remember all the names. This “brandon” character left after Tabata and Jackson. Bodhi (who was a great poster) left after Melky. Pruf will hopefully leave after Montero but maybe that’s just wishful thinking? Betsy left after Phil lost his ace projection. SJ44 left for Twitter. CB left because he was too smart for the Internets. Nick in SF will leave for Twitter. Lost in NY (a self-proclaimed in-the-know character) left for Twitter. “Bobcat” left because the Yankees got mad at him for leaking information.

  201. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    “That’s why Cashman’s the GM, and Rich and Jerkface are stuck with complaining about him on an Internet message board.””

    Says the person on an internet message board complaining about Rich and JF who doesn’t have the guts to use his real handle. From now until you out yourself, you are Cowardlyman.

  202. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    brettero-
    why did randy leave?
    cuz you schooled him?

  203. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Yet when the team does play young players, or players grown from within, like Cano, Robertson, Nunez, Phelps, Nova, Hughes, Gardner, Cervelli, etc., you complain Cashman and Girardi should because they are playing unproven youngsters. If you and Luis paid attention, you’d see that the Yankees success in recent years relies HEAVILY on home grown players that have been quite successful, especially for a team with low draft picks every year. But you choose to ignore that fact, because it doesn’t support your anti-Cashman and anti-Girardi agenda.

    If you were consistent, you’d occasionally praise, occasionally criticize, the manager and GM., because manager and GM in the history of the game has made good and bad moves. But you criticize 100% of the moves the GM and manager make, because you dislike them on principle. That’s what we call an agenda.

  204. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
    luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Ghost,

    I would prefer a GM committed to rebuilding the core and getting younger
    ==

    I’ll take one that wins.

    ====================

    For sustained success you need to develop the core… This scrap heap picks will help you for a very limited period of time… So I rather have a couple of bad season if that means a decade of dominance afterwards

  205. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Lost in NY (a self-proclaimed in-the-know character) left for Twitter. “Bobcat” left because the Yankees got mad at him for leaking information.
    =====================
    There used to be a guy named Tarheel in NC or sumthin, did he change his handle?
    He was an ahole…

  206. Pat M. May 12th, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Mick….I do think we’re playing in a playground in Astoria Queens…..I’ll be looking for Julio

  207. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    “Yet when the team does play young players, or players grown from within, like Cano, Robertson, Nunez, Phelps, Nova, Hughes, Gardner, Cervelli, etc., you complain Cashman and Girardi should because they are playing unproven youngsters”

    Fantasyland, Stone.

    “If you were consistent, you’d occasionally praise, occasionally criticize, the manager and GM.”

    More fantasy, I have laid out what Cashman has done right repeatedly. Anyone who reads this blog with any regularity knows that.

  208. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 11:26 pm
    Yet when the team does play young players, or players grown from within, like Cano, Robertson, Nunez, Phelps, Nova, Hughes, Gardner, Cervelli, etc., you complain Cashman and Girardi should because they are playing unproven youngsters. If you and Luis paid attention, you’d see that the Yankees success in recent years relies HEAVILY on home grown players that have been quite successful, especially for a team with low draft picks every year. But you choose to ignore that fact, because it doesn’t support your anti-Cashman and anti-Girardi agenda.

    If you were consistent, you’d occasionally praise, occasionally criticize, the manager and GM., because manager and GM in the history of the game has made good and bad moves. But you criticize 100% of the moves the GM and manager make, because you dislike them on principle. That’s what we call an agenda.

    ======================

    Then I think your reading ability is severely impaired… If you actually read my posts you will see both positive and negative posts… Which in turn would defeat you argument and agenda

  209. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    So I rather have a couple of bad season if that means a decade of dominance afterwards
    ========================
    why have bad seasons?
    we have a group down below that will be here in a year or 2.
    sounds like a contradiction.

  210. ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    You may be too young to remember, but at one point the Internet did not exist. At that time, fans discussed PLAYERS with one another. They did not obsess over the manager and GM. But Rich, Luis, JF, Prufrock, Randy, etc, devote ALL their posts to criticizing moves made by the manager and GM. Posters like Blake, who aren’t thrilled with Cashman, are at least consistent. But you people do nothing but complain about the manager and GM, all day every day, and as such, have effectively destroyed this blog. So I can no longer take LoHud seriously, and I troll you. Say something outside of your agenda, and I will stop trolling you, I give you my word.

  211. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    “There used to be a guy named Tarheel in NC or sumthin, did he change his handle?
    He was an ahole…”

    :D

    Pat M.

    I think Julio was from Corona, but close to Astoria

  212. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    Another thing… I am a prospect hugger… I very seldom critique one of our own… Again, start reading before commenting

  213. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    Tar, was tha you, so sorry… ;)

  214. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    “why have bad seasons?
    we have a group down below that will be here in a year or 2.
    sounds like a contradiction.”

    Not at all. Young players not named Jeter often have to surmount a learning curve. That could cause a team to lose if you integrate too many at once. I’m ok with that. The issue is will Hal or Levine have the stomach.

    That the Hughes, Joba, IPK experiment lasted a month and was never repeated may because because of their lack of patience, and not anything to do with Cashman.

  215. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    Not to mention a b-hole. But there’s a poster even more militant than him who made me nauseous. Fortunately he posts more infrequently.

    I think the absence of posting is the fan’s way of saying “Don’t change a thing”. But when things are not going so well, naturally a fan would want to put forth his/her ideas for changes.

    I like how things are going – thrilled actually.

    But I still would like to see 3B addressed. They’re not going to trade for a SS with Jeter still holding an option year and Arod needing to DH.

    3B – Headley is a possibility.

    But when it comes time to address SS, I like Erick Aybar – better numbers than Andrus, better contract and comparable defense.

  216. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:30 pm
    So I rather have a couple of bad season if that means a decade of dominance afterwards
    ========================
    why have bad seasons?
    we have a group down below that will be here in a year or 2.
    sounds like a contradiction.

    ======================

    No it’s not… They will be ready by the end of 2014 at the earliest… But if we don’t have them fine, but if need be I wouldn’t mind

  217. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    famous julios in baseball?

    i know there are some but cant think anymore…

  218. Tar May 12th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Ya got me on that one mick, I owe you.

    Or was that pay back?

  219. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    No it’s not… They will be ready by the end of 2014 at the earliest… But if we don’t have them fine, but if need be I wouldn’t mind
    ==========================
    so if they are down there what is all the b*tching about.
    they are your future core.

  220. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    Ya got me on that one mick, I owe you.

    Or was that pay back?
    ================
    nah i have a short memory, just a play on your multiple schematic.

  221. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:35 pm
    No it’s not… They will be ready by the end of 2014 at the earliest… But if we don’t have them fine, but if need be I wouldn’t mind
    ==========================
    so if they are down there what is all the b*tching about.
    they are your future core.

    ================================

    I want them to be given enough time to mature… No more rushing prospects, let them have their growing pains… if that means a couple of bad seasons, so be it.

  222. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    … if that means a couple of bad seasons, so be it.
    ================
    again i dont see why we have to have bad seasons.
    how would that change the progress towards the majors of these youngsters?

  223. Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Ghostwriter May 12th, 2013 at 11:14 pm
    luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Ghost,

    I would prefer a GM committed to rebuilding the core and getting younger
    ==

    I’ll take one that wins.

    ====================

    For sustained success you need to develop the core… This scrap heap picks will help you for a very limited period of time… So I rather have a couple of bad season if that means a decade of dominance afterwards
    ==

    First, it’s not an either-or proposition.

    Second, 17 of 18 years in the postseason is sustained success. The Yanks run of success over the last several years has outlasted the so-called core. Most of the guys from the teams of the late nineties have been long gone. Yet, the Yanks keep winning. It isn’t at all clear to me that accepting a couple of losing seasons is necessary or sufficient to ensure long-run sustained success.

  224. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    Not to mention a b-hole. But there’s a poster even more militant than him who made me nauseous. Fortunately he posts more infrequently
    =====================
    Made or makes?

  225. Against All Odds May 12th, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    Is it asking too much to ban the trolls?

  226. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    who are these trolls you speak of?

  227. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    Anyone who posts under multiple handles is a troll.

  228. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    Ghost,

    Yes… 17 or 18 years of sustained success with a core that was developed for that reason ( 18 years ago )… I want a new core so we can have consistent success

  229. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    I agree is not a mutually exclusive proposition… I just don’t think Cashman is the man for that particular job….

  230. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    Anyone who posts under multiple handles is a troll.
    ==============
    That’s it?

  231. Duh Innings II May 12th, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    ObviousMan May 12th, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Rich in NJ and Jerfkace, who were deadset against the Wells deal, wanted Cashman to instead spend the money on Melky Cabrera. No joke. That’s why Cashman’s the GM, and Rich and Jerkface are stuck with complaining about him on an Internet message board. No coincidence.

    ———–

    Yo STFU you weren’t for the Wells trade either (or if you were you didn’t come on here raving about him) nor did you expect him to do what he’s done so far let alone anything close to that. I disagree with alot of what Rich and Jerkface say and have got into it with Jerkface on more than one occasion haha, but at least they stated their case when the Yanks got Wells. You? You’re coming on here after the fact i.e. after Wells has shown he can still hit. That’s bullsh it bro.

    I am surprised not shocked that Wells has done what he has done before for most of his career which is be a good middle of the order guy. I’m estatic that he’s been the 2013 version of 2012 Torii Hunter. I thought and still think Wells costs too much money this year at $11.5M but I can’t complain considering he’ll cost only $2.5M next year and the Angels are paying most of the bill for him ha ha, hahaha. Hopefully Wells will finish this season with around his career slashline, 20-25 HR, and 70-85 RBI where he’s just about worth that $11.5M when you consider the expectations for him by most people (fans, media, scouts) which were 2011 Andruw Jones at best, 2012 Jones at worst. Wells is already 5 HR and 14 RBI away from matching Jones’ 2012 HR and RBI, with a much, much better slashline in 58 less games, and it’s only May 13!

  232. mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    alright. i’ve had enough of this nonsense…
    can’t wait for the Seattle Monteros on Tues-Thurs…750 or more posts per night is my call.

  233. Duh Innings II May 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    *ecstatic

  234. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    “That’s it?”

    You could also say that anyone who posts primarily to provoke a reaction from others is a troll.

    Or if you distort what a person has posted to start a conflict, you’re a troll.

    But at least if they post under a single user name, it’s mitigated a little, imo, because you know what you’re dealing with.

  235. Against All Odds May 12th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
    who are these trolls you speak of?
    ————————–

    There is more than a handful.

  236. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    “Yo STFU you weren’t for the Wells trade either”

    Like Duh may post under one name, but he’s trolling here.

    Dude, YES, I am still against the trade!!!!!!!!!!!!

  237. Jesus Bustero May 12th, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    Hope Randy kept the invoice on the lemon the yanks sold him

  238. Rich in NJ May 12th, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Actually, I apologize Duh. You’re posts are so long and I wrongly and hard to read.

    I’m sincerely sorry.

  239. austinmac May 12th, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    It does appear these players truly appreciate being on the team and intend to show they can help. They are far better at small ball, moving runners, making contact with men on base and doing the little things.

    I admit it has surprised me. Very pleasantly so.

    Do we ever miss Felix? You would think we would have a forty percent chance. Never happens.

  240. luis May 12th, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    I didn’t like the Wells trade for two reasons at the time:

    1) Another mid 30′s guy for an already pretty old team?… By then the perception and numbers said that he was in a steady decline… He has been a surprise for me, obviously ( no pun intended ) there was some very good scouting involved, so kudos for that.

    2) The money…. Same with Ichiro, if we are going to go under the 189 mil cap… Why not spend those limited resources in players with future impact on the team ( like Hughes and Cano )

  241. Bo knows May 12th, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    Well, the cards are stacked against the Yankees tomorrow. Top two BP arms probably not available, five and six starters going, Cano and Wells rested for one game each. We’ll see what happens.

  242. Rich in NJ May 13th, 2013 at 12:02 am

    I would contrast my opposition to the Wells signing with the Hafner signing. When you get make a low-risk, low-cost signing like that there is no downside, especially since he wasn’t blocking anyone.

  243. Tar May 13th, 2013 at 12:02 am

    “Top two BP arms probably not available, five and six starters going, Cano and Wells rested for one game each.We’ll see what happens.”

    This year that means a sweep

  244. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:03 am

    There was another reason:

    3) We need to start to get younger… Why not give the chanceto players like Adams and Mustelier?… I know they are about to be given that chance… But as a result of predictable injuries to old vets

  245. DaSaint007 May 13th, 2013 at 12:04 am

    Yankees are overachieving, but I’ll take it. Liked the Ichiro move, didn’t think the Wells move would pan out, but both have. But this bandaid team can’t continue like this. Need stability, and some roster moves are on the horizon. Don’t know if we can keep Hafner and Overbay with Tex due back, and think Boesch will be at Scranton when Grandy returns.

    I believe we’ve seen the last of Joba, and maybe even Nova, and wouldn’t be surprised to see them packaged off for a long-term piece, hopefully at 3B.

  246. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:04 am

    I think we get a split

  247. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:06 am

    DaSaint,

    Their worth is at an all time low… We won’t get an impact bat for them… Unless we gut the farm on top of it

  248. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 12:07 am

    I wanted Hunter and a Granderson trade, same with Swisher and Beltran. Net sum – small dollars and a couple of prospects to show for it rather than waiting three to five years for the draft picks. This would also take some of the draft pick gamble out of it.

    Didn’t happen, I still think it was a mistake, probably had to do with fan recognition.

    I’m enjoying the quality at bats more than I can say. If Grandy eliminated that hands back movement, for extra power, I’ll be ecstatic.

  249. ObviousMan May 13th, 2013 at 12:08 am

    I
    The current Yankee team is not winning from a core developed 18 years ago. Most of those guys are long gone. But the yankees keep on winning. 17 of 18 years qualifying for the playoffs and this imminent collapse I keep on hearing about never arrives.

  250. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 12:10 am

    This year that means a sweep
    ———–
    I’ll be the first to admit that I was hoping for a split on this road trip and that, I thought was optimistic. That set of Colorado low scoring games was a total mind boggler. Probably never happen again.

  251. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:11 am

    That’s something I am happy for…. No more ” hero swings”!!!… This team is winning in a wide variaty of ways ( small ball, big ball, aggressive ball, Great pitching, coming from behind )…

    I dread the return of Tex and Grandy

  252. DaSaint007 May 13th, 2013 at 12:12 am

    luis, agreed. I think it’s a shorter list of identifying who won’t be traded, as opposed to who may be. Cashman may be very active this trade deadline.

  253. CompassRosy May 13th, 2013 at 12:12 am

    mick May 12th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
    alright. i’ve had enough of this nonsense…
    can’t wait for the Seattle Monteros on Tues-Thurs…750 or more posts per night is my call.’

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    Actually, it’s more like the Seattle Felixes, Kumas, Seagers, Saunderses and Bartenders

    ;-)

  254. ObviousMan May 13th, 2013 at 12:12 am

    Meanwhile, the yankees farm consistently ranks 10-15, not bad for an upper tier team with low draft picks. If their Trenton guys have a good year, the farm will move into the top ten.

  255. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:15 am

    Jeter, Mo, Pettitte are still a part of the team ( only Bernie and Posada are gone )… The only position players developed in 18 years are Cano and Gardner… On the pitching side is a little better Hughes, Wang and Drob… Joba was and is a mayor blunder.

  256. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:16 am

    luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:15 am
    Jeter, Mo, Pettitte are still a part of the team ( only Bernie and Posada are gone )… The only position players developed in 18 years are Cano and Gardner… On the pitching side is a little better Hughes, Wang and Drob… Joba was and is a mayor blunder.

    ======================

    And a lot of old vets and scrap heap picks

  257. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 12:17 am

    I dread the return of Tex and Grandy
    —-
    Yay on the lack of hero swings. Totally on board with that. Self destruct on every junk baller.

    I’m willing to wait on Grandy, see how he approaches at bats.

    Totally agreed on Teix, not looking forward to his return. I even like Overbay’s defense better, a lot of range. Teix looks like he’s wearing one of those foam rubber muscle suits.

  258. Tar May 13th, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Bo

    The Grandy hand thing is so obvious ( well at least to you, Pat m and me) why do you think they didn’t correct it last year? Thats a head scratcher for me.

  259. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:18 am

    Dasaint,

    I hope he stays put… Unless he trades current roster players for more future ( granderson for example )

  260. Tar May 13th, 2013 at 12:20 am

    Overbay probably has better range, but I still think Tex is the best at the scoop.

    I have no complaints with Tex’s D at 1B.

  261. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:22 am

    Me neither Tar… But his LH swing I can do without… And his attitude

  262. luis May 13th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    I am going to call it a day guys… Have a good one

  263. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 12:25 am

    Tar

    I think it’s just stubbornness. Long did very little with Granderson, eliminated some movement and put his hands into the slot, a totally repeatable simple swing. His quick hands did the rest.

    I mean Grandy was a legitimate MVP candidate with that swing. I’ve been mourning that swing ever since. That’s why I still nurse hope that the ’11 Grandy returns. I loved those at bats of his.

  264. Tar May 13th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    Luis

    I really don’t get the attitude either. Not what i expected from him.

    Have to turn in, Good night all.

  265. Rich in NJ May 13th, 2013 at 12:27 am

    I definitely want Tex back v. LHP.

  266. UnKnown May 13th, 2013 at 12:33 am

    I even like Overbay’s defense better, a lot of range.
    ———–

    Tex has absolutely been taking a shellacking on this board of late, but I say his Defense is still the best you’re going to see at 1b in the league. Definitely better than Overbay’s

    Does anyone know how to find a stat on DH’s. I always get this sense that most of them end up in a split but I don’t know this for sure. Excited for the early start times tomorrow and the back to back nature instead of a day/night.

  267. Tar May 13th, 2013 at 12:34 am

    “I think it’s just stubbornness. Long did very little with Granderson, eliminated some movement and put his hands into the slot, a totally repeatable simple swing. His quick hands did the rest.”

    Yeah. His swing was… wait…. recognize..then explode straight to the ball. it was like he would coil then explode, very impressive.

    I miss that as well. He got so out of whack last year I hope he can find his way back.

  268. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 12:35 am

    I definitely want Tex back v. LHP.
    ———
    Agreed.

    It’s the 23 mil platoon player that’ll be hard to swallow. They might fake it this year claiming to prevent another wrist injury. It would be tough on the roster but doable. With the imminent appearance of the AG I guess Nelson’s days are numbered. He still intrigues me, I’d like to see what he looks like at SS.

  269. G. Love May 13th, 2013 at 12:39 am

    It’s so sad coming in here watching all the trolls and “I told you so’s” frothing at the mouth because the team is winning.

    If most of you took the time to read about what many of us were upset about, it wasn’t that we were anti-Yankee fans.

    In my case, I had grown tired of the Swisher/Tex/Grandy/Martin/Arod show. Watching that group fall to pieces at the sight of post season pitching was demoralizing. Watching them score 12 in a game, pad their stats and then score nothing for a weak swinging for the fences in every at bat was depressing. It wasn’t a fun team to watch.

    Couple that with an owner who had designs on saving money, not signing players more than a year and not lowering ticket prices and you had a recipe for disaster.

    The fact that this team is good, to me, has as much to do with the addition by subtraction we’ve had. Tex would not be hitting anywhere near what Lyle Overbay is vs RHP. Wells has replaced Grandy and possibly improved upon him. The Arod we saw benched in the playoffs is no one we are missing at the moment.

    I don’t know if it’s true, but I believe if Tex, Grandy and Arod started the season with this team we would be nowhere near this record.

    The criticism was warranted and still is because it’s a blog where you talk about baseball. When it turns into a bastion of blown kisses at all things Pinstripes it’s insufferable.

    I’m thrilled with this team. I like watching them play, pitch and figure out ways to win.

    But any of you “I told you so’s” who could’ve predicted that Vernon Wells and Lyle Overbay would be doing this are probably lying. Anyone predicting that Chris Stewart would find ways to contribute offensively are lying.

    A lot if going right for this team and I hope it maintains. It reminds me of what happened in 94-95 here before the young dynasty core truly arrived. We had hard playing vets who came together to win.

    Predicting this current group of cast offs would do that is somewhat disingenuous to me with the exception of a few people on here who only see rainbows and unicorns when they look at the Yankees on the field.

    I like this team and I’m proud of them. But I think the GM is classless toad and I think the owner wanted to see how far he could push the fans before they broke with lowering spending while keeping costs the same.

    With the attendance lower and the ratings on YES very low, I’m pretty sure the plan to slash this team below the cap next year is almost out the window.

    The problem with people on this blog is they are so invested in being right and twisting the knife into other people’s backs, they bring down the level of conversation again and again and again.

    If you predicted the cast offs would do this and this would be the Yankee record you should put your money where your mouth is, move to Vegas and become a billionaire.

  270. Tar May 13th, 2013 at 12:52 am

    I have to agree, the whole sanctimonious, self righteous, I’m positive you’re not—crap, just dumbs down the board.

  271. Nick in SF May 13th, 2013 at 1:20 am

    Holy crap, Yo La Tengo is ripping up Sacramento like the Vernon Wells of indie rock.

  272. blake May 13th, 2013 at 7:32 am

    @jasoncollette: More impressive zombie hitter so far: Loney, Wells, or Hafner?

  273. Mike Ri May 13th, 2013 at 7:41 am

    @jasoncollette: More impressive zombie hitter so far: Loney, Wells, or Hafner?

    —————
    Man … great question…. I gotta go with Wells…. We all knew if healthy, Pronk could still hit !….. . Wells on the other hand was on his last life..

    What a couple of pickups by Cashmoney

    ps .. Who cares about Loney…lol lol

  274. Doreen May 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am

    You Can’t Predict Baseball.

    I told you so’s have no place.

    For as many times people “feel” like something is going to turn out differently than expected, it can just as easily go the other way. both on the upside and on the downside.

    My feeling was that if the pitching held up, there were enough good hitters in the lineup to enable the team squeak out enough wins to stay competitive. This team has overreached my expectations with even fewer of the players from opening day doing the work.

    So I think this part of the season is very enjoyable so far. No one knows what’s going to happen, and so far not much that was expected to happen has happened. All I hope is that any low points in the season are short-lived. The division is close and will probably remain so.

    For my part, I just want to enjoy being a game in first, 10 games over .500, in the middle of making what looked to be a tough road trip a winning one, while all the pundits who predicted doom being jaw-dropped. For as long as it lasts.

  275. MG May 13th, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Doreen May 13th, 2013 at 7:52 am
    You Can’t Predict Baseball.

    I told you so’s have no place.

    For as many times people “feel” like something is going to turn out differently than expected, it can just as easily go the other way. both on the upside and on the downside.

    My feeling was that if the pitching held up, there were enough good hitters in the lineup to enable the team squeak out enough wins to stay competitive. This team has overreached my expectations with even fewer of the players from opening day doing the work.

    So I think this part of the season is very enjoyable so far. No one knows what’s going to happen, and so far not much that was expected to happen has happened. All I hope is that any low points in the season are short-lived. The division is close and will probably remain so.

    For my part, I just want to enjoy being a game in first, 10 games over .500, in the middle of making what looked to be a tough road trip a winning one, while all the pundits who predicted doom being jaw-dropped. For as long as it lasts.
    ———————-
    Doreen, that is the post of the season, I could not have said it better…

  276. MG May 13th, 2013 at 8:10 am

    I do have one thing to add, it has to do with where baseball fits in my life.

    Baseball is a means of enjoyment to me, it is not life and death.

    I compete every day to make my business the best it can be, the $189M cap and the development of prospects is not central to achieving my long term business goals.

    I try every day to be a good friend and uncle, the $189M cap and development of prospects is not central to being that either.

    For those of you who choose to fully integrate Yankees issues into your lives, that is your choice.

    I may still bust your chops occasionally about it, most of us are New Yorkers by birth or residence, it’s part of the our heritage.

    And I always wonder how those of you who are so dissatisfied with the way the Yankees run their team get any enjoyment out of watching the game and being a fan, that kind of mystifies me.

  277. MaineYankee May 13th, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Doreen, that is the post of the season, I could not have said it better

    ——————————————————————-

    That’s why she was missed when she left.

    A voice of reason is always welcome for me.

  278. RadioKev May 13th, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Nick in SF May 13th, 2013 at 1:20 am
    Holy crap, Yo La Tengo is ripping up Sacramento like the Vernon Wells of indie rock.
    ———

    Haha, that’s a good comparison. ‘I have it.’

    Seeing them play this summer with Belle & Sebastian. Should be awesome.

  279. RadioKev May 13th, 2013 at 8:15 am

    “Tex has absolutely been taking a shellacking on this board of late, but I say his Defense is still the best you’re going to see at 1b in the league. Definitely better than Overbay’s”

    Overbay plays a good 1B, but I’d also take Tex.

    This is just the expectations game. Overbay has been better than expected, and Tex has underperformed his career numbers. But let’s not fool ourselves, Tex should be a welcome addition if he ever gets back.

  280. MG May 13th, 2013 at 8:16 am

    RadioKev May 13th, 2013 at 8:12 am
    Nick in SF May 13th, 2013 at 1:20 am
    Holy crap, Yo La Tengo is ripping up Sacramento like the Vernon Wells of indie rock.
    ———

    Haha, that’s a good comparison. ‘I have it.’

    Seeing them play this summer with Belle & Sebastian. Should be awesome.
    ——————
    I’m guessing that only Nick and I know the origin of the band’s name and Richie Ashburn’s role in it…

  281. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Good post Doreen.

    Totally agree

    To me the game is all about the challenges during – the quality at bats, the pitching sequence, how they play the game. A hard fought loss is better than a blow out win, less entertainment value. Wins are good because that’s why they keep score.

    And then I watch Overbay and as Cone said “He’s had a grin on his face since he got to the Yankees”. I appreciate that.

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