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Postgame notes: “We might have a chance to help this team”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 13, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

David Phelps

David Phelps took the loss today, but on a day when the Yankees young pitchers stole the show, there was something fitting about Phelps being the first one on the mound.

“I think Dave kind of started something last year when he came up and did well,” Adam Warren said. “For us guys down in the minor leagues, we’re kind of like, well, we might have a chance to help this team. So you kind of get that little bit of glimmer of hope. Now, this year, guys are getting some opportunities and we’re trying to take advantage of them. We have that confidence coming up that we know we can get outs, so I think that really helped us.”

Facing a lineup with the highest team slugging percentage in baseball, Phelps, Warren, Vidal Nuno and Preston Claiborne — with one out of support from Boone Logan — combined to allow one run through 17 innings. At no point were any of those four considered pitching standouts in the minor league system. Phelps and Warren were largely overshadowed by Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances. Claiborne has played second fiddle — maybe even third or fourth fiddle — to Mark Montgomery. Nuno arrived out of independent ball two years ago.

Vidal NunoYet, there they were, carrying the workload on a day when none of the veteran starters was on turn and the top arms in the bullpen had pitched four of the past five games.

“To be able to shut this team down…” Joe Girardi said, with no need to finish that thought. “This team’s been swinging the bats, swinging the bats, and they’re very balanced. They’ve got switch hitters, left handers, right handers, speed.
It’s an unbelievable job by our staff, and by Larry (Rothschild) preparing these guys.”

Phelps allowed one run through 6.2 innings in the first game, Claiborne added yet another scoreless inning of relief, and Warren got what might have been his first ever save — he can’t remember another one, but said he might have had one in high school — but the real show stealer was Nuno, who hadn’t pitched since his April 30 big league debut, yet he came out throwing strikes, impressing Girardi with his confidence and poise.

“He knows how to pitch and went in there and was ready to compete,” Austin Romine said. “Nothing really fazes him. He’s really calm out on the mound. You can see he’s ready to go. … I think anybody would be kind of a little anxious or excited. He’s been (not anxious) in the starts I had him in Triple-A. He’s just real calm and collected, goes out there and makes pitches and never tries to do too much. That’s what he did tonight.”

The Nuno/Warren shutout in Game 2 salvaged a doubleheader split and capped a wildly successful road trip against three teams that had been playing well when the Yankees came to town (Cleveland had won 12 of 14 before today). The Yankees won six of eight on this trip, and now they could get their first big bat off the disabled list tomorrow.

“Obviously it’s nice to allow one run through two games,” Warren said. “But I feel like we’re just kind of riding the momentum of this team. I feel like we’re on a roll right now. We’re just trying to give the team a chance to win every time we’re out there and just ride the momentum a little bit.”

Austin Romine• Pretty good day for the young guys all around, really. Nuno got his first win, Warren got his first save, Corban Joseph got his first hit and Romine got his first RBI. “First (major league) start being at first base, I never thought that would happen,” Joseph said. “But there’s opportunity. When you get called to do a job, you have to make the best of it. I tried to be selective at the plate and do something productive for the team.”

• This was Romine’s first big league hit since 2011. “I look forward to getting in the lineup any time I can,” Romine said. “I want to play, but Joe makes the lineup and whenever I’m in there, I’m in there, and I give 110 (percent) whenever I can.”

• Joseph had the first locker as you walk into the visiting clubhouse here at Progressive Field. That locker usually goes to someone else when the Yankees are in town: Derek Jeter. Joseph said Jeter’s locker must have been lucky because of that seventh-inning double. It was Joseph’s hit that kick-started that six-run inning. “I think I’m going to give (the ball) to my mom,” Joseph said. “Good Mother’s Day present.”

• Girardi said Nuno was not going to pitch beyond Asdrubal Cabrera in the fifth. That was his last batter, and his last chance to go deep enough to get a decision. Nuno got a called strike three. Ahead in the count 0-2, Nuno and Romine discussed what pitch to throw. “He wanted something down in the zone, a breaking ball,” Nuno said. “I told him, ‘Let’s just go with the heater away and I’ll pinpoint it.’ And I just did that.”

• Oddly enough, Nuno got his first career win against the team that drafted. Mean anything to him? “A little bit,” he said. “They gave me a shot, so I’ll just take advantage of it and just keep on playing baseball.”

Austin Romine, Adam Warren• Phelps really struggled with fastball command early, but he got going late. “My changeup was really good again today,” he said. “There were a lot of behind-in-the-count, offspeed pitches that we were getting groundballs and popups on. Then those times when we were ahead in the count, we were putting guys away early. I was fortunate. I was pretty lucky today, to walk five guys and still be out there in the seventh inning.”

• Optioned to Triple-A between games, Brennan Boesch actually seemed to take the demotion about as well as anyone can take it. “Obviously the role that I was given isn’t a role that anyone would want,” Boesch said. “My goal is to be an everyday play again. The first step in doing that is going down there and getting some at-bats, working hard down there. That’s really the first step to get back to where I need to be.”

• Boesch said he would actually prefer playing everyday in Triple-A than playing so rarely in the big leagues. As far as I can remember, I’ve never, ever heard a player say that. “A lot of interesting starts against some tough lefties, pinch-hits,” Boesch said. “It’s something that I prefer to go down at this point and work and to play.”

• Final word goes to Girardi: “This was a great road trip for us. We played three teams that were playing extremely well. I think Colorado was, what, a game or two out when we played them. Kansas City was tied for first place when we faced them, and these guys are in first. So, to be able to do that, that’s a really good road trip.”

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97 Responses to “Postgame notes: “We might have a chance to help this team””

  1. mick May 13th, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    mick May 13th, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    why would we get rid of nuno?
    he might be needed in the next year or 2.
    more often than not the unsung unhyped type like nuno and phelps
    are more likely to succeed than the hype like betances and banuelos.
    =============================================
    As Chad agrees:

    At no point were any of those four considered pitching standouts in the minor league system. Phelps and Warren were largely overshadowed by Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances. Claiborne has played second fiddle — maybe even third or fourth fiddle — to Mark Montgomery. Nuno arrived out of independent ball two years ago.
    =======================
    Great minds think alike.

  2. luis May 13th, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Excellent road trip…. Excellent pitching and some timely hitting… I hope they keep it up and at the same time give chances to kids to contribute… Next stop, David Adams

  3. jackamir May 13th, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Good stuff, Chad….Prospects are hard to judge but so many find the right stuff when they play at the highest level. The pitchers for a couple of starts get to surprise and the hitters find pitchers with better control and no books on their tendencies…I really like this team….

  4. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    I’m looking forward to seeing Adams play. He’s supposed to be a grinder at the plate. A little rough in the field, but from what I understand he should be able to hold his own with the bat. And since he’s a righty, that’s something this tm badly need.

  5. Pat M. May 13th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Rangers are taking it to the Caps, who are on fumes !!!!

  6. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Yeah of course Phelps/Warren were overshadowed by Banuelos/Betances.

    Pretty hard to fly under the radar when you have the kind of stuff those two do and you can dial it up to 98 mph (in Betances’ case).

    You’re not going to be able to hide those kinds of arms. The thing about the Bs is they both have 3 pitches, but it’s rare that big arm guys don’t have to work overtime developing a third pitch (like Pineda will have to).

    Betances was a project from go, despite the stuff (and he was really pitching well before they pulled the eunuch job) and Banuelos is rehabbing. I kind of doubt we’ve heard the last of him.

  7. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    jmills must be beside himself with glee, his Leafs are about to pull off a major upset here against the Bruins.

  8. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    May have spoken too soon, still 7:00 to go and only up by two. I can’t jinx you though, jmills – you can only jinx your own team!

  9. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    Be a wild night on Queen street if this holds!

  10. blake May 13th, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    “I think Dave kind of started something last year when he came up and did well,” Adam Warren said. “For us guys down in the minor leagues, we’re kind of like, well, we might have a chance to help this team. ”

    I actually think this is huge for the players in the minors of a system to feel like if they play well they can actually make the big league club…..it’s a mindset the Yanks haven’t done a great job of promoting in the last but are imoroving at……. Kids need to know there is light at the end of the tunnel to play their best

  11. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    I actually think this is huge for the players in the minors of a system to feel like if they play well they can actually make the big league club…..it’s a mindset the Yanks haven’t done a great job of promoting in the last but are imoroving at……. Kids need to know there is light at the end of the tunnel to play their best

    ———-

    Solid point but there really weren’t many open spots over the past few years. But the kids in the minors should get plenty of motivation this yr with Romine, Adams, Joseph, Nuno, Warren, Claiborne, etc… getting their shots.

  12. 86w183 May 13th, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    I don’t think you can overstate the importance of having kids promoted, getting a chance to produce and doing well.

    I’ve known a number of Yankees minor leaguers thru the years and the common refrain was a depressed resignation that their MLB opportunity (if it came) was bound to come with another organization.

    A day like today, where Phelps, Claiborne, Nuno, Warren, Romine and Joseph all contributed is great for morale throughout the system.

    And throughout this blog, too !

  13. Against All Odds May 13th, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    It all started with Cano and Wang back in 05

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Bruins score, now trailing 4-3. Ontario is holding its collective breath for the next 1:22.

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    OMG…………………Bruins tie it………………….more heartache for the long-suffering Maple Leafs fan……….

  16. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    It all started with Cano and Wang back in 05

    ——-

    And melky too. Then the pitchers came up in 08. But after Cash rebuilt the team in 09 (Teix, Swish, CC, Grandy) there really weren’t many opportunities. Gardner and Cervelli are the only ones I can think of….and a cameo by Montero.

  17. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Going to OT in Toronto. Punch Imlach would not be pleased.

  18. igotid88 May 13th, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Speaking if trades. You can probably trade Nova for some team’s minor league SS or 3B. Who’s ML ready but is held up by that team’s star SS or 3b? If there is such a team. And of course that team needing a ML ready pitcher.

  19. j9d May 13th, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    I think we all have agreed it would take a big leap of faith for Yankees leadership to let the team grow from the inside and let the young kids into the fold. Most teams do it by necessity year in and year out. The Yankees were forced to do it this year. I believe they should have a tremendous advantage competing this way. Of course, it needs a balance… You’d never want the pendulum over this far. But it is a good exercise methinks.

  20. blake May 13th, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Solid point but there really weren’t many open spots over the past few years”

    I think they shifted their thinking on the bullpen a few years back…..they decided to stop paying all this money for old relievers when they could do it internally much cheaper and better…..and they have

  21. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    I think Nova needs a string of effective/healthy starts to have any trade value. Unfortunately, I don’t have a lot of faith in that happening.

  22. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    I think they shifted their thinking on the bullpen a few years back…..they decided to stop paying all this money for old relievers when they could do it internally much cheaper and better…..and they have

    ——

    Agreed. It was the one spot that they could use kids and younger retreads.

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    When the Yankees allow youngsters to “fail” at the ML level, rather than just flirt with development, then I’ll feel a “morale” boost as a fan. I’m much more engaged when we have the roster infused with younger players, but fool me once…

    When they actually sustain a genuine “youth movement,” I’ll take them seriously. They’ve wasted 3 years already in which they could have been getting younger.

  24. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    It’s true about the BP but it’s also a low-risk place to get young. You don’t “develop” BP guys, but we’ve done a very good job of drafting these kinds of arms.

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    I’m sure no one’s going to roll the dice on Nova when he’s had an assortment of injuries going back to 2011. I don’t want to see Nova traded, any way. Let him get healthy and back on track.

  26. 86w183 May 13th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    JAP —- I didn’t mean to suggest fans should be “all in” on a youth movement based on a few examples, but young players are far more impressionable and thus, far more excited about these recent developments.

    It’s a tricky balance to bring in youth and continue to contend, but the Yanks are trying that this season out of necessity. Perhaps this will convince the powers that be that the world will not come to an end if you have guys in their low 20′s on the active rosters.

    Let’s hope so.

    G’Nite all

  27. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    I don’t think anybody is saying we’re in the middle of a youth movement. But days like today give the kids in the system a real shot In the arm. To be honest, I think we are a yr ot two away from an outfielder or two getting a shot to start.

    The Yanks need to find a young infielder somewhere (in a trade most likely) that they can use as a utility guy for the next couple of years while hopefully grooming him to take over a spot.

  28. Against All Odds May 13th, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
    It all started with Cano and Wang back in 05

    ——-

    And melky too. Then the pitchers came up in 08. But after Cash rebuilt the team in 09 (Teix, Swish, CC, Grandy) there really weren’t many opportunities. Gardner and Cervelli are the only ones I can think of….and a cameo by Montero.

    ———————-

    I forgot about Melky. I think Generation Trey made them gun shy

  29. jacksquat May 13th, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    The Yankees will never have a “youth movement” unless there are a lot of injuries (and even then…), their payroll is too high. With the possible exception being if they have several minor leaguers really knocking down the door. Someone like Ramirez could force himself into the rotation next year.

  30. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    The Yankees may be forced to rely on their own kids over the next few years because other teams are locking up their top notch talent.

  31. CountryClub May 13th, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Donnie Collins @RailRidersTT: Granderson said he told Yankees officials he felt good, added that it looks like he’s heading to NY, to be activated “as soon as tomorrow.”

  32. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    It’s a tricky balance to bring in youth and continue to contend, but the Yanks are trying that this season out of necessity. Perhaps this will convince the powers that be that the world will not come to an end if you have guys in their low 20?s on the active rosters.

    Let’s hope so.
    //

    They of all teams could have fairly seamlessly done this and would have helped – not harmed – their chances of winning in the process. They had built-in fading-but-still-viable stars and instead they just let the team get old.

    I think you’re right though that these kids need to feel they’ve got a shot. And yes, hope goes on that they’ll get it one day :D
    ///

    HEARTBREAK IN TORONTO!

    jmills, I know not what to say…..your suffering continues….

  33. jacksquat May 13th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Quite the matchup tomorrow, Felix vs CC. Felix’s numbers so far are disgusting…

  34. j9d May 13th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Sustaining a genuine youth movement will require some amount of sacrifice. The amount of criticism of this team’s leadership with perennial playoff teams makes me very skeptical some on this forum would tolerate such growing pains. The list of available things to complain about In life is endless, as it is with the Yankees. I can’t imagine this team missing the playoffs once. Would be ugly commentary here for sure.

  35. Against All Odds May 13th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    j9d May 13th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    ————————

    There is a section of the entire fan base that can handle it but the majority can’t.

  36. tucker May 13th, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    If you look at a lot of the Yanks call ups in recent years, they have happened in May. And these call ups are reall out of necessity. The trade market does no develop until June when teams realize they have no realistic shot for the year.

    Cano, Wang, Melky, Hughes (07 — late April maybe?), Cervelli, the current crop, etc. . … All these guys have been called up when the team faced real needs but were unable to find answers on the trade market. So I think the team turned to these players not out of organizational preference, but the team has done so because of lack of alternatives … But, hey, it’s worked out well …

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    I would gladly miss the playoffs if I thought they were implementing a core of young upside players I could witness growing up and coming of age together.

    Winning the division is always meaningful, but knowing your lineup is going to be over-matched in the postseason by good pitching takes the excitement out of it.

    It was obvious in 2010 that a transition needed to take place for us to remain a legit contender, and they whiffed on it. We were old in that ALCS; anyone with eyes could see it. We’re like the Boston Bruins and Philadelphia Flyers used to be in the 80s: “regular season” teams who use a “system” to compile an impressive record and always fool the media into thinking they’re a player, but who get exposed in the playoffs.

  38. blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Campos 4 shut out innings tonight

  39. j9d May 13th, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    AAO — Agree you describe the overwhelming majority being okay. This is a group that, for the most part, engages in critical thinking and is not afraid to call out something that doesn’t make sense.

  40. RadioKev May 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Has anyone seen how Granderson looks? His first at bat of spring training he had an altered batting stance… curious if he’s still trying it. His hands were further from his body, if I recall.

  41. jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    We lost in the 2010 ALCS because joe left AJ in to long in game 4, and the rest of pitching stunk in the series also. Nothing to do with age, and we were coming off a World Series the year before so it wasn’t the end of the world to lose that series.

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Against All Odds May 13th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    j9d May 13th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    ————————

    There is a section of the entire fan base that can handle it but the majority can’t.
    //

    Yep, you and I can handle it. Man, I envy a team like the Orioles: Machado, Wieters, Bundy, Gausman.

  43. jacksquat May 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    The Yanks are always shooting for the playoffs, they won’t take years off to rebuild unless there is a catastrophe. You have to be content with a sprinkling of rookies here and there. Even Jeter got in because of an injury (and help from Torre and Michael).

  44. tucker May 13th, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    “blake says:
    May 13, 2013 at 10:24 pm
    Campos 4 shut out innings tonight”

    With all these pieces, Cashman won’t be able to help himself at the trade deadline.

  45. jacksquat May 13th, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    Early in the 1995 season, Fernández and infielder Pat Kelly were injured. Consequently, Jeter made his MLB debut on May 29, 1995.[25] Batting ninth, he went hitless in five at bats, striking out once.[26] The following day, he recorded his first two major league hits and scored his first two career runs.[27] Jeter batted .250[28] and committed two errors in 13 games before being demoted to Class AAA Columbus; Fernández replaced Jeter at shortstop.[29]

    After Fernández batted a disappointing .245 and appeared in only 108 games due to injuries that season, newly hired Yankees manager Joe Torre asserted that Jeter would be the starting shortstop for the 1996 season,[30][31] indicating that he hoped Jeter could bat .250 and be dependable defensively.[32] However, Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, often skeptical of younger players, was not convinced. Clyde King, a close Steinbrenner advisor, observed Jeter for two days in spring training in 1996, and came away with the impression that Jeter was not yet ready.[33] To provide depth to the team at the shortstop position after an injury to Fernández, Steinbrenner approved a trade that would have sent pitcher Mariano Rivera to the Seattle Mariners for shortstop Félix Fermín, but Michael, now the vice president of scouting, and assistant general manager Brian Cashman convinced Steinbrenner to give Jeter an opportunity.[34]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Jeter

    I didn’t know Cashman was involved with convincing George to play Jeter.

  46. jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    The Yankees will never “rebuild” unless they are absolutely forced to. You see the empty seats now, it will look like Citi Field every night if we have to rebuild.

    Yanks want to be able to build for the future and win at the same time.

  47. raymagnetic May 13th, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    ” The thing about the Bs is they both have 3 pitches”

    Unfortunately 1 of the Bs has no clue where any of his 3 pitches are going half of the time.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    We lost in the 2010 ALCS because joe left AJ in to long in game 4, and the rest of pitching stunk in the series also. Nothing to do with age, and we were coming off a World Series the year before so it wasn’t the end of the world to lose that series.
    ///

    Andy Pettitte stunk? He lost, 2-0, to Cliff Lee. Had a lot to do with age (ours and theirs), and of course it wasn’t the end of the world – what was the end of the world was standing still instead of getting younger after that series telegraphed a 100 mph heater to the head that it was time to do so.

    Yeah he left AJ in too long, and he IBB’d Murphy because he liked the Molina “matchup” better. :roll:

  49. blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    Dante jr 0-4 again…..hitting .168….yikes

  50. jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    Other than Andy the pitching stunk. Every game we lost in that series we were blown out.

  51. raymagnetic May 13th, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    There are 4 posters here who could handle a youth movement. The rest of the blog would likely implode if the Yankees decided to go with a youth movement.

    Don’t believe me, read the blog from 2008. Kennedy and Melky were listed in nearly every trade proposal. Hughes was hammered regularly.

    The only youth the fans seemed to like was Joba Chamberlain.

    I just read some posts from 08 and it’s a lot like the posts you see now. Some of the same characters are still around from them. Quite funny when you look back 5 years and see the more things change the more they remain the same.

  52. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Activate Granderson, send down Marshall and CoJo (Yankees currently have 26 guys on the roster).

    Wednesday, DFA Francisco, add Adams to the 40 and call him up.

  53. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    Dante jr 0-4 again…..hitting .168….yikes
    ///

    He didn’t really impress me in Lakewood. He fell over in one AB from swinging so hard. Andujar’s the guy I want to see in short season in June.

  54. jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    The majority of yankee fans wouldn’t accept rebuilding and 5-6 years of being bad after making the playoffs every year but one since 1995.

    It took the orioles over a decade of embarrassment to get where they are now. Same with a team like the rays.

  55. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    I don’t consider C a pitcher who “stinks,” and the Rangers’ pitching really wasn’t that good, they just had a way better lineup than we did, and a younger one.

  56. yankeefeminista May 13th, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    How did we possibly win today with so many inexperienced kids playing, and with young pitchers that we actually drafted pitching (you know, instead of other team’s pitchers)? :shock: This idea that you can’t play your youth and win at the same time is overhyped and overrated. I am hoping that the Yankees realize this as well, and as soon as we have mlb ready kids who aren’t blocked–and we hopefully choose not to block them in the first place–that they will be integrated.

    In 2010, we lost because we could not keep up with the younger, faster and superior bat speed of the Rangers. I don’t know what it looked like on television, but in person, it was embarrassing how old and slow we looked.

    raymagnetic, and now most everyone loathes Joba and takes swipes at him daily. Go figure.

  57. blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    @DCameronFG: Matt Kemp, past 365 days: 467 PA, .276/.328/.421, -18 UZR, +0.2 WAR. Tied for last in WAR among CFs. http://t.co/nymIFtjXt9

  58. yankeefeminista May 13th, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    For those who were asking, I believe the replay of the second game is on YES at 11PM.

    I hope JR Graham’s all right. He hurt his pitching arm and had to be removed from the M-Braves game.

  59. jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    The Yankees lineup was pretty old in 2009 and it was fine. Age has nothing to do with them not hitting in the playoffs. Any team can go cold at any time. Cano is young and he was awful in the playoffs last year.

  60. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    The majority of yankee fans wouldn’t accept rebuilding and 5-6 years of being bad after making the playoffs every year but one since 1995.
    ///

    Even if this is true, you can’t run your club based on the mainstream fan’s threshold for development. You have to develop your own players or you won’t compete, and then you’ll not suck for a year or two, but for several.

    It’s not like they’re packing the house every night, even though they’re winning and in first place. There’s a certain ennui factor with this Yankee team. That may change if they start relying on younger players more, but at the moment, they’re not generating enough excitement that people can’t wait to go to the ballpark and spend money.

  61. blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    “Hughes was hammered regularly.”

    Still is

  62. yankeefeminista May 13th, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    “Leonardo Molina, of, Dominican Republic: Now that Obispo Aybar confessed to using a false identity, some scouts think Molina is the best athlete in the class. The top prospect in the Dominican Prospect League, Molina will be able to sign when he turns 16 on Aug. 1 and already has a broad tool set along with a projectable 6-foot-2, 170-pound frame. He’s a plus-plus runner with a strong arm, giving him the tools to be an excellent defender in center field once he refines his routes. At the plate he shows good bat speed from the right side with a bit of funkiness in his swing that leads to some inconsistency at the plate, but some teams have seen him hit well in games. Sources have said the Yankees are the most likely landing spot for Molina, who trains with Decarte Corporan.”

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....or-july-2/

  63. jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    The ticket prices don’t help either, but the attendance would be even worse if we had to rebuild.

    Believe me, if we have to rebuild one day, I would accept it, since all good things can’t last. Just think the yankee front office would never go full rebuild unless they were absolutely forced.

  64. jmills May 13th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Well that was certainly a lovely hockey game. I’m going to lie down now; I want that big pill, the one on the table by the window. And, someone bring me a small glass of water, please and thanks.tell Alice, I wish her well.

  65. Pat M. May 13th, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Campos is going to be a beast…I still think we could be seeing him as soon as September 2014

  66. blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    “He didn’t really impress me in Lakewood. He fell over in one AB from swinging so hard. Andujar’s the guy I want to see in short season in June.”

    I haven’t seen him this year and he’s still really young but to struggle this much in a repeat of Low A isnt what you want to see….

  67. yankeefeminista May 13th, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Hughes is unfairly slammed because he didn’t become the ace he was projected to be. Nothing he does is ever good enough.

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    Guys like Kinsler and Andrus were in their 20s.

    You say hitting was cold, I say hitting was old.

  69. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    blake May 13th, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    @DCameronFG: Matt Kemp, past 365 days: 467 PA, .276/.328/.421, -18 UZR, +0.2 WAR. Tied for last in WAR among CFs. http://t.co/nymIFtjXt9
    ————

    proof of the uselessness of WAR

  70. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    jlyanks85 May 13th, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    The majority of yankee fans wouldn’t accept rebuilding and 5-6 years of being bad after making the playoffs every year but one since 1995.
    ///

    Even if this is true, you can’t run your club based on the mainstream fan’s threshold for development. You have to develop your own players or you won’t compete, and then you’ll not suck for a year or two, but for several.

    It’s not like they’re packing the house every night, even though they’re winning and in first place. There’s a certain ennui factor with this Yankee team. That may change if they start relying on younger players more, but at the moment, they’re not generating enough excitement that people can’t wait to go to the ballpark and spend money.
    —————–

    So you think that a young team that loses is more exciting than a veteran team that wins?

  71. j9d May 13th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Raymag
    I was not advocating for a youth movement. I’m saying most of the posters on here would be reasonable about their criticism. The 4 posters you think would be okay with a youth movement will not be. They will jump on any reason to complain and a youth movement wi give them more ammo. (Dont know who those 4 actually are as i don’t follow closely). My point is that a balance of new and old is ideal. And this year the Yankees are sort of forced into it. Maybe they wi learn something.

  72. luis May 13th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Chip,

    If that veteran team is declining and there is nowhere else to go but down… Yes, is better to have younger team

  73. raymagnetic May 13th, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Guys like Gardner, Cano, Granderson, and Swisher were also in their 20′s and 2010.

    Tex was 30.

    The three old guys were Posada, Alex and Jeter.

    Yeah the Yankees were ancient in 2010 :roll:

  74. jmills May 13th, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    ” A Season In Hell ” – reading Rimbaud almost makes it seem romantic, but I don’t want to actually live it. Oh well, the Leafs would’ve had to break the kid’s legs to get much further anyways, only to be swallowed up in the end by some overbearing west coast wave.

  75. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    There are a lot of reasons for attendance being down:

    1. For the same amount of money that it costs to take your family to a couple of games you can buy an awesome TV and watch all the games without having to deal with drunken aholes.

    2. The stadium has all the personality of beige paint

    3. Best seats in the stadium are still grossly overpriced

    but what I do not think is a factor is that the Yankees have a veteran team that’s in first place and aren’t generating enough excitement.

    Would I rather see Austin Romine playing than Chris Stewart? Yes absolutely. But I don’t think that if Austin Romine were behind the plate fans would show up in droves to watch him play.

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    jmills!

    What solace can I give? Only this: the Leafs appear to have some very good young talent and will be heard from again.

  77. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    luis May 13th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Chip,

    If that veteran team is declining and there is nowhere else to go but down… Yes, is better to have younger team
    ——————–

    How do you a figure that a team that’s starting to get its players back off the DL is going to decline?

  78. G. Love May 13th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Chip,

    If all that was true, why are YES ratings almost 1/2 of what they were?

    The Yankees are noticing people have moved on from the team. It’s not just at the turnstiles. It’s in the ratings.

  79. jmills May 13th, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    Alfred, the solace will be that John Farrell is a complete disaster.

  80. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    G. Love May 13th, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Chip,

    If all that was true, why are YES ratings almost 1/2 of what they were?

    The Yankees are noticing people have moved on from the team. It’s not just at the turnstiles. It’s in the ratings.
    —————-

    Knicks, Nets, Rangers and Islanders in post season pushes and then the playoffs likely have been eating into their ratings.

  81. Chip May 13th, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    G. Love – personally speaking anyway, I’ve been watching more playoff basketball and hockey than baseball.

  82. Bo knows May 13th, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    I would suggest, much as it pains me to say it, that the ratings are driven by star power. The Jeter, A Rod, Teix hype. It seems that people experienced in playing the game are in a minority. Any other team’s fans would be ecstatic to have their team playing this well. It’s good baseball, it’s entertaining, it’s exciting. Blowing three top teams out of the water should generate ratings. Ain’t happening.

  83. jmills May 13th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Goodnight, Irene; I’m off to another dimension to dream up a team of Mike Bosseys or something.

  84. G. Love May 13th, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    Chip,

    True. That could have an effect on ratings, but just from casually talking to people who cared about baseball and the Yankees I know, they all seem less passionate than ever.

    I don’t know if it’s the team per se. In my case, seeing the same cast of characters fail in the post season a few times with so much futility took a lot of the fun out of watching for me. It’s one thing when the team goes down fighting like 2001. It’s another when they get their brains beat in and have the highest payroll in the game.

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    My point is that a balance of new and old is ideal.
    ///

    Well they missed their window for that ideal combination, didn’t they.

  86. David in Cal May 13th, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    I am deliriously happy about the Yanks’ pitching today. If any one of Warren, Nuno, Caliborne and Phelps had pitched outstandingly well, I’d have been happy. For all four of them to do so…Wow!

  87. luis May 13th, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Chip May 13th, 2013 at 11:01 pm
    luis May 13th, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Chip,

    If that veteran team is declining and there is nowhere else to go but down… Yes, is better to have younger team
    ——————–

    How do you a figure that a team that’s starting to get its players back off the DL is going to decline?

    ===========================

    The ones I want to come back, probably won’t… Those that will, i don’t think they will improve this team much… I like this team, is scrappy and has a lot of fight… But they are just simply delaying the much needed rebuild

  88. yankeefeminista May 13th, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    Tomorrow might have been a marginally rocking night at the Stadium because it is a $5 night, but it is supposed to be very cold. I am sure in spite of the Felix-CC matchup that there will be a ton of no shows. And as far as sex appeal, unfortunately this team isn’t going to draw the casual fan from his/her nice warm house out to the Bronx. Young talented players would certainly draw fans over this crew, even though they are playing well and having great AB’s. Obvioulsy, Jeter coming back though, would result in a better turn out. But I think the diehards who would attend games through thick and thin have largely left the building for a multitude of reasons, and are staying home.

    That 2010 team had Berkman/Thames as the DH. They were a station to station team, and they played old. Probably were exhausted by playoff time. They also were hero swingers. Also Texas’s speed on the base paths made our fielding look pretty pathetic. That was the first time I realized that we were on the decline. We were shockingly outplayed in that series. It was painful to watch.

  89. igotid88 May 13th, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Rangers!!!! King Henrik

  90. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    jmills May 13th, 2013 at 11:11 pm

    Goodnight, Irene; I’m off to another dimension to dream up a team of Mike Bosseys or something.
    ///

    What? Rick Vaive’s not good enough for you any more?? Bitter, bitter…. :D Truly sorry for you, old man. They had it in their hands…

  91. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    igotid88 May 13th, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Rangers!!!! King Henrik
    ///

    He’s definitely special. Allows their “offense” to hang around.

  92. Against All Odds May 13th, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
    Against All Odds May 13th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    j9d May 13th, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    ————————

    There is a section of the entire fan base that can handle it but the majority can’t.
    //

    Yep, you and I can handle it. Man, I envy a team like the Orioles: Machado, Wieters, Bundy, Gausman.

    —————-

    True it’s fun to see that team with young players but I’m sure they envy the success the Yankees have had over the yrs.

  93. yankeefeminista May 13th, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Curtis Granderson@cgrand14 25m
    Just finished 5 games with @swbrailriders now in the car on the way back to NY #RoadToRecovery
    ____
    Fingers crossed that we get Good Grandy. It’ll be fun to have him back.

  94. J. Alfred Prufrock May 13th, 2013 at 11:38 pm

    So you think that a young team that loses is more exciting than a veteran team that wins?
    ///

    A team that has promising young players is always going to interest the fan, because the fan can look ahead and dream about what that player can become. Look at the Orioles – you don’t think your mainstream and hardcore Orioles fan alike isn’t buzzing about Machado and Wieters? If I were a fan of the Orioles, I’d go to the park just to watch those two guys. I’m a Yankee fan, and I’d go to the Stadium to see Machado when they come in. Yes, I know, we aren’t in a position to have a Machado to develop, but youth with upside is still going to get the fan more interested.

  95. willsonjack May 14th, 2013 at 5:35 am

    Great road trip… There is no permanent winners and losers.

  96. blake May 14th, 2013 at 7:33 am

    JUps 4-5 with a homer in his return to Arizona

  97. blake May 14th, 2013 at 7:43 am

    @McCulloughSL: As you prepare for this Yankees series with the Mariners, read some sad stuff about Dustin Ackley. http://t.co/dahwCqtnky

    Another Mariner if love to buy low on and see if K long could straighten him out in a better park…..


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