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Rivera: “Without singing, I have a gold record”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 14, 2013 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Mariano RiveraMariano Rivera has always been his own sort of rock star, and honestly, wouldn’t it be awesome if the Yankees began selling a Rivera Farewell Tour t-shirt? Make it look like band t-shirts we’ve all seen, then put the dates of each road series on the back as if it’s the summer leg of the latest Dave Matthews Band circuit. I don’t own a single Yankees shirt, but I think I’d buy that one. It’s been a tour worth seeing.

Yesterday, Rivera made his final appearance in Cleveland, home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Each road city either has or will honor Rivera this season, but the Indians knocked it out of the park by presenting a gold record of Enter Sandman.

“Without singing, I have a gold record,” Rivera said.

Out to dinner with Mark Feinsand and Dan Barbarisi last night, we were talking about how much Rivera seems to be really appreciating and enjoying this last trip around the league. His meetings with fans and employees have been remarkable in a uniquely Rivera way. He’s being celebrated, which is both unnecessary and a no-brainer.

“It’s a different feeling, knowing that I’ve been playing for 19 years,” Rivera said. “Every year you know that, God-willing, you’ll be back there. This time it’s different. This time you know it’s not. You take a look at the stadium, make sure that you say goodbye. And sign as many autographs as you can do.”

You know what’s making the Farewell Tour particularly special? The fact Rivera is basically the Rolling Stones, well past his prime and still putting on an incredible show. The Yankees just wrapped up a terrific trip through Colorado, Kansas City and Cleveland, and Rivera had four saves in five days. He hasn’t blown one yet. The Yankees are probably using him a little more often than they’d like — adding some bats might ease that burden by eliminating a few two-run and three-run games — but so far, Rivera seems up to the challenge; his own sort of rock star.

“I only have to say, ‘Thank you,’” Rivera said. “I didn’t announce my retirement for this, but knowing that the teams are doing it, I appreciate it. I’m grateful for what they’re doing.”

A few random thoughts because, I don’t know, why not?

Curtis Granderson• Optioning Brennan Boesch and activating Brett Marshall might have been only the beginning of a transaction-heavy week for the Yankees. Curtis Granderson could come off the disabled list today, David Adams is eligible for promotion tomorrow, and it certainly seems like Joba Chamberlain could be ready to go by Thursday.

• Knowing all the guys one their way, who comes off the roster if Granderson is ready tonight? Is it worth sending Vidal Nuno back to Triple-A to stay stretched out? He’s clearly the team’s sixth starter at this point, with Warren having proven awfully valuable as a three-inning long reliever, similar to what David Phelps was for extended stretches last season. The Yankees also need to keep Brett Marshall as a fresh arm for a few days, because their long men are used up. But does it make sense to dump a position player for Granderson — Ben Francisco, for example — to go with a short bench for a night, then make the pitcher move if/when Adams comes up? If the Yankees use Marshall tonight, for example, it might turn out to be a better idea to send him down and keep Nuno.

• Three ways to go when Chamberlain comes back: 1. Option Nuno/Marshall and carry Warren as the only true long man. 2. Option Preston Claiborne and put faith in Shawn Kelley’s recent performance and ability to pitch two-plus innings. 3. Option Kelley and trust that Claiborne’s early performance is a sign of things to come. I think there’s real logic in any of those options, but I’d probably go with No. 2, only because Chamberlain basically fills the Claiborne role.

• You know who’s been playing really well lately? Jayson Nix. That guy seems to get on base every time these days.

• It seems clear that the Yankees prefer to keep Brett Gardner in center field, and my guess is that Granderson will only play there on days Gardner is on the bench. So which corner should Granderson play? Left field is huge at Yankee Stadium, so Granderson’s range makes sense there. But he’s also new to the corners. Does that make it more logical to put him in right field, where things are a little easier, leaving left field in the hands of Vernon Wells and Ichiro Suzuki, who are pretty good outfielders themselves? I think I’d put Granderson in left, but it might be worth a discussion.

• Look at some of the lineups the Yankees used during this last road trip. Their roster is ill-equipped to play without a designated hitter, and their already tested depth is not ideal for eight games in seven days, yet the Yankees won six of eight against three teams that had been playing awfully well. Don’t look now, but Joe Girardi is looking awfully good right now. Don’t forget, this is a contract year for him.

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589 Responses to “Rivera: “Without singing, I have a gold record””

  1. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Bernie is jealous.

  2. blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Id play Grandy in LF most of the time…..

  3. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:09 am

    There is a logjam in the OF, the rotation and the BP – all good problems to have. Meanwhile there’s a shortage at SS and 3B. I don’t think they will fiddle with Derek Jeter’s throne so that leaves 3B.

  4. NYYROC May 14th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    My guess:
    Grandy in Nuno out
    Adams in, either AG or Nelson out. I’d keep AG. Seen enough of Nelson.
    Joba in. Either Claiborne or Marshall out. If Warren is ready to pitch again Marshall is out.

  5. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    What they could do is convert some of these surpluses (in OF, rotation, BP etc) into one player who can cover both 3B and SS…

    Michael Young.

    Then you just ride Eduardo Nunez/Michael Young until Jeter returns. Even if Tex returns you can use Michael Young at 3B and as a super utility guy and put Youk at DH, 3B, 1B and have enough AB’s to go around.

    Michael Young it is.

  6. Tackelberry May 14th, 2013 at 9:20 am

    King Felix is ready to welcome back The Grandyman.

  7. pat May 14th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    We get a tickets in the “good seats” from a friend for a few games a year.

    I usually don’t go so the kids can go to the games but I get to go this week because the kids want their turn after the all star break when they might get to see Derek and Alex play.

    Don’t discount that when trying to figure out the lower attendance and TV ratings.

  8. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:27 am

    What they need is a solid SS option. Nunez was penciled in of course but he hasn’t been healthy.. any word on the MLB investigation into the SS Diaz?! Man they take their sweet ass time.

  9. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    I’m expecting Granderson to have a better season than last year, overall. He, Gardner, Ichi and Wells are a nice OF. Let’s hope they all stay healthy.

  10. Tackelberry May 14th, 2013 at 9:28 am

    same with Omar Luis Rodriguez, one of our top international signs from last year. Still waiting for his visa. Damm that US Consulate!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Do my eyes deceive me or did upstate kate pop in this morning?? I miss all the fun.

  12. blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Young cant play SS anymore…..

  13. blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Joe needs to use his binder on this OF situation … Ichiro should probably lose the most PT IMO for now

  14. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:33 am

    @RiverAveBlues

    Phil Hughes and his looming contract http://rab.me/15J8XU0

  15. Hassey May 14th, 2013 at 9:34 am

    The Ks are coming
    The Ks are coming
    to arms
    to arms
    The Ks are coming

  16. CompassRosy May 14th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    blake says:
    May 14, 2013 at 7:51 am
    If I was Grandy I think Id ask for one more minor league game with Felix on the hill….

    ~ ~ ~ ~

    Or maybe two, since Kuma’s turn is next ;-)

  17. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:35 am

    blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:31 am

    Young cant play SS anymore…..

    —————–

    I asked about maybe moving Gumbs there since I certainly hope the Yankees retain Cano for a while and Gumbs is a 2B.. but I’m not sure his D is solid enough.

  18. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    I’d love to see Derek Jeter’s reaction when the Yankees invest resources in a solid major league shortstop while he’s stuck on the disabled list. Let’s just say hypothetically speaking and just for the sake of amusement that the shortstop is Erick Aybar.

    What exactly are they going to do with that SS (Erick Aybar in this hypothetical situation) if/when Derek Jeter comes back? You can’t just bench him because you paid a significant price.

    You can’t just sell Derek on the idea that you don’t believe he can come back. It would be a PR nightmare and it could be a patently incorrect miscalculation. He could very easily work his way back.

    It’s a tricky science. They need someone on the left side of the infield who is an upgrade over the Adams/Nunez/Nelson combo but also someone who is not so great that he can’t be moved around when/if some of these other players return.

    Michael Young fits the profile. He’s a starter, an upgrade but he’s borderline a super utility guy and has played that role in his career. He can play 3B and cover SS. He’s also top 5 in BA and top 10 in OPS for the position. When Youk returns, Youk plays mostly 1B, DH and some 3B. If Tex returns then Youk mostly plays 3B but can platoon with Tex at 1B and play some DH. Young would become the super utility guy.

  19. CountryClub May 14th, 2013 at 9:37 am

    “Michael is convinced that it is time that I just admit that I am wrong, and he is right about the New York Yankees being a magical species, not unlike house elves. He is fairly enraged that I will not just admit defeat. I picked the Yankees to collapse under their own weight this year. He thinks I’m a flat-earther who will not face the obvious truth — that the Yankees will always, continuously, endlessly, constantly, incessantly and unceasingly win forever and ever, amen. He thinks it is way past time for me to admit it doesn’t really matter who is actually ON the Yankees — doesn’t matter if every single baseball player on earth gets hurt and they are forced to have Shecky Greene hit second and play centerfield. In this case, Mike is convinced that Shecky Greene would hit .289 with 24 homers and win a Gold Glove.”

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......-wizardry/

  20. MaineYankee May 14th, 2013 at 9:39 am

    Having the Knicks and Rangers in the playoffs will definitely have an effect on attendance.

    Just like when the Yankees are in the playoffs the attention to the Knicks or Rangers is not as important.

  21. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Season tickets went up when Alex arrived in 2004. Yankee games were a must see. New stadium loss of OYS soul/crowd as one dynamic, diehards dropping plans for multiple reasons, loss of Jeter, and cold weather contribute to the decline. People would rather just stay home than pay out for these players. However, a King Felix visit to the Bronx is always an event. Notice how the crowd in Cleveland in the first (day game) yesterday, how people in the equivalent of our Legends all standing and applauding 2 pitch strikes and final outs. That never happens at NYS. We should see more fans as the regulars return. However, right now aside from cost and cold, I think there is also a lack of identification for some with these Yankees. Vernon Wells is a nice story, but there are too many guys who are rentals for the fan that needs more motivation to get to a game in the Bronx.
    ____
    Interesting read from BP on WAR:

    Colin Wyers
    Free this morning at @baseballpro, why @JonHeymanCBS is a better sabermetrician than you (and why it matters). http://bit.ly/17piz5P
    Retweeted by Baseball Prospectus
    ____
    Gumbs is more of a 2B. We do have some SS options in the lower ranks once Avelino and Co. are in the mix. Avelino can both hit and field.

  22. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Maine, heckuva comeback by the B’s last night.

  23. blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:41 am

    “What exactly are they going to do with that SS (Erick Aybar in this hypothetical situation) if/when Derek Jeter comes back? You can’t just bench him because you paid a significant price.”

    They aren’t trading for Erik Aybar

  24. Zach S May 14th, 2013 at 9:44 am

    I agree with putting Grandy in left also. Hope we see that.

  25. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:45 am

    Exactly Blake which would mean they would have to find someone between Eduardo Nunez and Aybar for it to make it worth the investment – an upgrade who is a candidate to for super utility role when/if Derek returns.

    So why gun for a SS-super utility player when you can target a 3B-super utility player in Michael Young? You already have a SS who can out hit most super utility infielders in Nunez. Eduardo Nunez is a young ball player and his injuries aren’t serious. You could upgrade SS but then you have to deal with Jeter and you also have to still deal with the other half of the weak infield.

    I’d rather deal with the 3B half of the weak infield, keep Nunez and wait patiently for Jeter

  26. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Especially knowing Michael Young’s production at 3B is based on long-term precedent and thus reliable. Since he is not a prospect with a potentially inflated ceiling his price is also easier to calculate.

  27. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    They missed the boat on Young two off seasons ago.. we don’t need any more backup 1Bs and if you’re going to slot someone at 3B at least make it someone with upside.

  28. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    I think Yanks think that Nix is their SUI…

  29. CountryClub May 14th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Leonardo Molina, of, Dominican Republic: Now that Obispo Aybar confessed to using a false identity, some scouts think Molina is the best athlete in the class. The top prospect in the Dominican Prospect League, Molina will be able to sign when he turns 16 on Aug. 1 and already has a broad tool set along with a projectable 6-foot-2, 170-pound frame. He’s a plus-plus runner with a strong arm, giving him the tools to be an excellent defender in center field once he refines his routes. At the plate he shows good bat speed from the right side with a bit of funkiness in his swing that leads to some inconsistency at the plate, but some teams have seen him hit well in games. Sources have said the Yankees are the most likely landing spot for Molina, who trains with Decarte Corporan.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....or-july-2/

  30. MaineYankee May 14th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:41 am
    Maine, heckuva comeback by the B’s last night.

    ——————————————

    I won’t lie. I almost missed it.

    I stopped watching at 4-1. Turned back to see 4-3 .

    Obviously didn’t stop watching after that.

  31. blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Micheal young is somewhat redundant with Youk if Youk is healthy…..if they make a deal for an infielder this summer then Id either make a big splash by going after Headley or Tulo or somebody if available or Id target a SS or 3B prospect that’s kinda undervalued right now or that they could get for things they have in excess.

    Mike Olt is really struggling at AAA…..is he having some frustration because he’s ready and getting older and isnt being given a chance in Texas? They could use a starter…..Nova for Olt is the type deal Id be lookin for

  32. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Someone with upside at 3B? Again, Young is a top 10 3B in OPS and his production is based on a long reliable track record. What player above him would you target? Have you looked at that list?

    Now if you’re talking about “upside” you’re talking about a player that could not only cost an inflated price but could flop because he’s unproven and you bought the “upside” over the reliable production.

    That’s not a pattern that fits the Yankees recent habits.

    (insert old man jokes here)

  33. Chip May 14th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    My guess:

    Option Nuno tonight for Granderson
    DFA Francisco on Wednesday for Adams
    Send out Marshall for Joba

    Tonight’s lineup guess:

    Gardner – CF
    Cano – 2b
    Wells – LF
    Hafner – DH
    Granderson – RF
    Nix – SS
    Overbay – 1b
    Nelson – 3b
    Stewart – C

  34. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:52 am

    Oh so they would not trade for Aybar but they would trade for Tulo…

    Where do you come up with this stuff?

    They’re not touching Derek’s spot with a long-term solution, Blake. Think about what you’re saying there.

  35. MG May 14th, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Bret, for years you have repeated the same acquisitions, only the names change from time to time.

    None of them have ever happened.

    Instead of trying to convince a small group of fans about how great these would be, just call Cashman on his private line. If you leave him a message with a bad joke about women he will probably return the call.

  36. blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    “Someone with upside at 3B? Again, Young is a top 10 3B in OPS and his production is based on a long reliable track record. What player above him would you target? Have you looked at that list?”

    It’s very early yet first….2nd if they want to upgrade 3B then target Headley as he’s a true upgrade and a guy that can be a short and long term solution. I don’t know that young is any better than Youk….he’s healthy and playing better now but was awful last year and is old himself

  37. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Maine, what a wild game, and the crowd was nuts. I’ve always loved going to big games up in Boston, especially at the Garden. Really fun to watch this one even though I didn’t have a rooting interest. Now the NHL gets to revisit the Boston-NY rivalry. Old rivals Blackhawks and Detroit, as well. For fans of the original 6 (which I am one of even though I root for an expansion team), this round should be fun.

  38. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Pleasure talking baseball with you MG. Have a nice day.

  39. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Speaking of attendance woes, who here in NY metro is actually attending games at the face prices of tickets or at all?

  40. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Here are the top 10 3B in OPS

    1) Miguel Cabrera
    2) Longoria
    3) Wright
    4) Machado
    5) Donaldson
    6) Sandoval
    7) Seager
    8) Michael Young

    Chase Headley would be 4th on that list but he doesn’t have enough AB’s yet.

  41. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    blake May 14th, 2013 at 9:55 am

    “Someone with upside at 3B? Again, Young is a top 10 3B in OPS and his production is based on a long reliable track record. What player above him would you target? Have you looked at that list?”

    It’s very early yet first….2nd if they want to upgrade 3B then target Headley as he’s a true upgrade and a guy that can be a short and long term solution. I don’t know that young is any better than Youk….he’s healthy and playing better now but was awful last year and is old himself

    ——————–

    Yeah, this is what I mean. Young would have been a good fit a couple seasons back.

    Pretty soon our entire team will be comprised of utility guys.

  42. Jack Florham May 14th, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Well written article by Joe Posnanski, and how so true…….

    http://joeposnanski.blogspot.c.....t-and.html

  43. Bo knows May 14th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    I think they need to rotate the OFs, starting today. Gardner looks shot at the plate, he’s late on everything. Ichiro is just flailing.

    Gardner is playing in top form D in CF, especially in the last road trip. Every time there was a shot to the gap and I’d be going “Ruh, Roh” there was Gardner making an easy put out. Wells made that great catch – there was Gardner veering off, behind him.

  44. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Speaking of attendance woes, who here in NY metro is actually attending games at the face prices of tickets or at all?

    ——————

    I’ve only gone to 3 games so far this year (I think I’m going to be cutting back big time this season… too many Backstreet Boys tickets to buy!) and haven’t paid more than $11 for any game.

  45. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:00 am

    “They’re not touching Derek’s spot with a long-term solution, Blake. Think about what you’re saying there.”

    I’m sayig they might for Tulo cause he’s way better than Aybar …..either if those is highly unlikely

  46. CountryClub May 14th, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Speaking of attendance woes, who here in NY metro is actually attending games at the face prices of tickets or at all?

    —————-

    Why would anyone ever pay face value for a sports ticket? Unless you’re going to the Final Four or something like that, there are always tickets on sale for less than face if you’re patient.

  47. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:02 am

    Blake, why does Michael Young have to be an upgrade over Youk? If/when Youk returns then Youk can play 1B, DH and 3B. Young can play mostly 3B and all over the place. Things get complicated if Tex returns but Young is basically a rental and should be cheaper (than Headley) for the production he gives. Young would be a fine super utility guy if for some freak chance Youk, Hafner and Tex are all 100% healthy at the same time.

  48. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Bret,
    You get that it’s mid may right and that Young isnt really one of the best 8 3B in baseball most likely right? He could fall off and be awful the rest of the year

  49. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    If you acquire Headley you are going to pay a huge price and force Arod to DH which eliminates DH for Derek Jeter before you know for certain he can handle the wear and tear at SS.

    Yes Michael Young could end up in a super utility role and this is a team of bandaids but if the glove fits…

    Until then, Michael Young ranks among the most productive 3B in the game.

  50. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    “Blake, why does Michael Young have to be an upgrade over Youk? If/when Youk returns then Youk can play 1B, DH and 3B. Young can play mostly 3B and all over the place. Things get complicated if Tex”

    Lol yes things get really complicated and not really better if Tex returns

  51. MaineYankee May 14th, 2013 at 10:05 am

    yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 9:55 am
    Maine, what a wild game, and the crowd was nuts. I’ve always loved going to big games up in Boston, especially at the Garden. Really fun to watch this one even though I didn’t have a rooting interest. Now the NHL gets to revisit the Boston-NY rivalry. Old rivals Blackhawks and Detroit, as well. For fans of the original 6 (which I am one of even though I root for an expansion team), this round should be fun.

    ——————————————————

    I’ve never been. We’ve talked about it so maybe sometime.

    I could take the train from Portland but it would make for a long day.

    I expect this next series to be very high energy.

    Not as big a rivalry as the Canadians but still should be good.

  52. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Anyway….it’s really too early to know what’s going to be abailable and what they’ll need

  53. Doreen May 14th, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Country Club -

    Oh, thanks for linking that column!!!

    What can ya say????? Logic fails. :)

  54. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Sure Young could “fall off” but he’s not some unproven prospect. His current production is right in line with his career production and we’re talking about a credit line of 14 seasons. So while the chances of him falling off exist the chances of him maintaining his current production are much greater and the cost should be significantly less than the guys you’re talking about here (Headley, Tulo).

  55. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:07 am

    I would offer the Orioles Trenton and Scraton for manny Machado and call it a day

  56. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Bret,

    It’s incredibly difficult to talk about this stuff now…..lets wait a couple of months then we will have a better picture. What if David Adams come up an rakes ? Problem solved?

  57. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Young cannot play ‘all over the place’.. he can play 3B and 1B and that’s basically it.

  58. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    And 2B and SS. He can play “all over the place” for insurance purposes. Regularly, he can play 3B which would be the primary reason to target him. The versatility is mere bonus.

  59. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:16 am

    CC, once upon a time, people used to have season tickets and like sitting in the same group of fans that they sat with for 50 years. OYS was like that, and the tickets were reasonable. New times call for new measures. The hardcore fan from OYS has fled, and the casual fan won’t come out except in ideal weather, circumstances. Nothing wrong with it, but probably a reason with the cold that attendance is down when you no longer have the core STH. Bo is right, most fans aren’t going to get the same pleasure out of a great AB that someone who prefers a disciplined approach/short path to ball will.

  60. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:15 am

    And 2B and SS.

    ——————–

    He really cannot.

    I mean.. he can in the same way Francisco Cervelli can play 2B.

    He’s a better 1B than he is a 3B, as well.

    I was all for Young a couple seasons back. At this point we’re up to our ears in utility players.

  61. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Young can’t even play 3B. He is a really bad defender.

  62. MG May 14th, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Young has 1 HR and 9 RBI in 136 ABs playing in a small ballpark, he’s always been a good hitter but how in the world does that help the Yankees?

    He’s in his mid-30s, expensive, and a free agent after this season.

    The Phillies aren’t going to look to unload him unless they are out of it at the trade deadline, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out, unless someone overwhelms them with an offer that would include someone who can play 3rd base for them everyday.

    They have Adams coming up, Youk coming back, Arod probably coming back and other options, the last thing they need is another guy filling up the same place on the roster.

    That is the stupidest proposal of all time-

  63. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Bret just likes to hear himself obsess.

    At least when blake obsesses he tries to get us Justin Upton.

  64. Bo knows May 14th, 2013 at 10:20 am

    I’m about to commit sacrilege.

    Wells is the best interview on the Yankees. I know the bar is very low, but he actually has a sense of humor and makes comments.

    Cano was flailing at future midges last night, got the Swish disease, Wells picked him up. Wells then ricocheted one off 1B Santana’s foot for his third hit. Comic relief. (Okay, calling Santana a 1B is one of those courtesy calls). Gack, I’m warming up to Wellsy.

  65. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Blake,

    Agreed. Best case scenario is Adams and Nunez join the party and bridge to Youk then Jeter and Tex. It might be challenging to find upgrades over Adams and Nunez and it might be pointless to trade for those upgrades if all return healthy. I just find Michael Young a worthwhile target because he is both an upgrade over one half of the weak left infield and a candidate to still play a role if everyone returns healthy. He is a career .300 hitter hitting over .300 who gives quality ML AB’s. He is basically doing at the major league level what Adams is doing in AAA. But everyone deserves a chance… I mean I still have faith in Eduardo Nunez.

  66. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Maine, you should. Great crowds. I’ve seen tons of great games up there from Bruin playoffs to Gretzky and post-Gretzky Oilers winning the Cup on Boston ice to Mario to Beanpots and Frozen Fours. Boston Garden was the best place to see a game. Such intimacy. Loved the balcony, first row. Nothing like it. But that crowd last night was right up there with those from Boston Garden’s days. Fun to watch. Hockey’s a different vibe, but speaking of crowds, I wish NYS had that OYS crowd feel.

  67. CountryClub May 14th, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Personally, I think the whole attendance thing is overblown. The Yanks had a magical attendance run in the mid 2000′s but it was because somehow, a team that had been winning for a decade (and most of their history) suddenly became the “cool” thing to do. It was almost like the Lakers in LA. They were never going to keep up 4 mil fans per yr.

  68. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:23 am

    Bo, I like Wells too; he is a cool guy, funny, and I’ve loved his approach. Interesting to see how the regulars integrate with this group.

  69. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    :lol: Yeah it’s stupid to target the 8th most productive 3B in MLB.

    What is your genius idea MG? Wait for the guy with the plastic hip.

  70. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Wrong Shame, I like to hear know it all posters like MG call people “stupid”. I’m not here to talk baseball. In fact I haven’t discussed it at all today. Just listened to MG hurl insults from behind his computer screen :lol: and you mouth off as usual.

  71. Chip May 14th, 2013 at 10:27 am

    1. Michael Young is not a good defensive player.

    2. Michael Young is not really a good offensive player at this point either (early season numbers not withstanding)

  72. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    1. Michael Young is a clear upgrade over what we have

    2. WHAT? His early season numbers = his career numbers. He is top 10.

  73. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    “At least when blake obsesses he tries to get us Justin Upton.”

    JUps is more worthy of obsession.

    “I’ve only gone to 3 games so far this year (I think I’m going to be cutting back big time this season… too many Backstreet Boys tickets to buy!) and haven’t paid more than $11 for any game.”
    ___
    My dilemma is budgeting so I can spend on hockey tix. So pricey. I usually take a trip to Pitt in the playoffs, but this year that may be tough to do…
    ___
    CC, it does go in waves, but the Yankees have become way too costly for the old diehard STH to commit to tickets, especially in poor seat locations. Therefore, the Yanks will get more of the walk in/couple games a year crowd vs. those who were committed to attending every game.

  74. Chip May 14th, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Yeah it’s stupid to target the 8th most productive 3B in MLB.

    What is your genius idea MG? Wait for the guy with the plastic hip.
    ——————–

    Can’t we just wait until Youkilis comes back?

  75. 86w183 May 14th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Young is not enough of an upgrade to give up significant $$$ or prospects. It doesn’t matter how his current productivity ranks among 3B. All that matters is how much of a short term upgrade is he and what is the cost for that upgrade.

    I leave the team alone and let the injured return at a reasonable pace. Granderson is a nice step in that direction. We’ll see when they get Youkilis back.

    I’d love a long term 3B solution, but that’s probably two years away considering the contract status of A-Rod and Derek.

  76. MG May 14th, 2013 at 10:30 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:26 am
    Wrong Shame, I like to hear know it all posters like MG call people “stupid”. I’m not here to talk baseball. In fact I haven’t discussed it at all today. Just listened to MG hurl insults from behind his computer screen and you mouth off as usual.
    ————–
    you have repeated this same proposal well over 100 times on this blog along with the hundreds of repeated proposals for DeJesus and Headley.

    If you don’t like someone calling your proposal stupid 1X then don’t post it 100X or come up with something that actually makes sense.

  77. Tackelberry May 14th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    I agree. Young is on the wrong side of 30 and his skills are fast fading. Would not want him.

  78. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Sure, wait for Youkilis. You think I’m demanding we acquire Michael Young right this very instant? I think you might have me confused with somebody else. I like to think ahead.

  79. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:32 am

    How bout this MG, you don’t speak for everyone and let people discuss baseball and not be a b-hole?

    Deal?

  80. MaineYankee May 14th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Michael Young.

    The player the Texas Rangers kept moving to a different position because they found someone they liked better.

  81. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    This place would really function better if people turned off their bully button, and let people post whatever they wish, scrolling past or addressing the post without insulting the poster.

  82. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Yeah he’ll finish his career with close to 3000 hits.

  83. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    And I agree that Michael Young isn’t the answer.

  84. MG May 14th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Yeah it’s stupid to target the 8th most productive 3B in MLB.

    What is your genius idea MG? Wait for the guy with the plastic hip.
    ——————–
    I don’t need a ‘genius idea’, they are in first place with what they have now and will be adding two guys (Adams and Youkilis) who can play the position.

    And, by the time that Young could be available as a short term rental they could also have Arod and Jeter back on the left side of the infield.

  85. Chip May 14th, 2013 at 10:34 am

    MaineYankee May 14th, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Michael Young.

    The player the Texas Rangers kept moving to a different position because they found someone they liked better.
    ————–

    Yup…The 5th DH on the Phillies

  86. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Bret,
    Obsess over Headley….he’s a lot better….if you’re gonna obsess then it needs to be a real upgrade over what they have.

    Id be ok honestly if Adams came up and hit and turned Youk in to a platoon guy at 1B

  87. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Adams deserves a chance. I basically already said that.

  88. Bo knows May 14th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    YF

    It was all your fault yesterday, your talk about watching pitching. Pitching has always been a mystery to me. I’ve always been “What’s he got today and what’s going to work”?

    Well yesterday I was watching pitch sequences, a new frontier for me. Nuno laying it all out in the fifth, a little punch drunk, Girardi and Rothschild pacing in the dugout willing the kid to one more out and glory – that was high drama.

  89. DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Nix on acquiring Young. I’d bet that Cashman promised Adams a return to NY as part of their “under the table” deal.
    Thought that both teams looked like they were sleep walking through yesterday’s DH. Those games resembled something outta late Sept. No hitter climate, so I’m discounting pitching performances.
    Hafner turning into the Disappearing Man. A guy that plays No position, and continually swings a bat with a hole in it, frequently goes that route.
    Wells as a 4th OF’er looks like a pretty good proposition.
    Not sold on Nix. Been around a while, meaning there’s a good reason he is a Utility Infielder. Time ALWAYS tells.
    Impressed with Doolittle. That guy should be Closing somewhere. Reminds me of MO when he was setting up Wetteland.

  90. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    @bkabak: Cito Culver with 41 Ks in 136 ABs. On the flip side, Gary Sanchez batting .280/.356/.500 with 9 of 22 would-be base-stealers thrown out.

    Sanchez is the guy….they need him to pan out

  91. MG May 14th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:32 am
    How bout this MG, you don’t speak for everyone and let people discuss baseball and not be a b-hole?

    Deal?
    ————
    I don’t speak for everyone, I speak for me.

    I usually ignore everything you post, today I decided to make a comment about it.

    If you don’t like it, too bad.

  92. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Adams should be very useful, and can hit both handedness. Again, Yanks may not like the lack of hairiness, but he has a great approach/oppo hitter.

  93. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Jesus Bustero says:
    May 14, 2013 at 10:36 am
    Adams deserves a chance. I basically already said that.

    Right so before we spend all morning debating the merits of acquiring Micheal Young…..lets see what he can do and if Youk and Tex get healthy

  94. jacksquat May 14th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Bustero, you complain about people obsessing about Montero, then you do the same and obsess about Michael Young.

  95. longtimefan May 14th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Mo, a gold record, how appropiate a solid gold record for the.
    man with the golden arm. The only record Joba will get is a police record.

  96. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:41 am

    No MG, you frame your speech as if you speak for everyone and you don’t. And if you can’t talk baseball without being a b-hole towards other posters then you should maybe think about ignoring everything I post. And if you don’t like being called a b-hole, don’t act like a b-hole.

  97. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Jacksquat,

    Can I get a tally on that?

  98. Mark May 14th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Rivera: “Without singing, I have a gold record”

    “Each road city either has or will honor Rivera this season, but the Indians knocked it out of the park by presenting a gold record of Enter Sandman.”
    ————–

    This is Mo’s finale – so that is not knocking it out of the park. Metallica is booked in Rio on 9/19, but could easily be in NYS, on call, for entire last homestand. Whenever Mo gets called…

  99. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Jesus Bustero says:
    May 14, 2013 at 10:29 am
    1. Michael Young is a clear upgrade over what we have

    Have you seen James Loneys numbers so far? It’s still early…..

  100. 86w183 May 14th, 2013 at 10:44 am

    As far as attendance and costs. I was born in the Bronx and attended games for as little as 75 cents in the bleachers and $ 8 for box seats in the late 1960′s.

    When I return to the city I am conflicted about going to games because of the exorbitant costs. I’ve paid as much as $ 200 or so for Delta club Suites, $ 155 for Champions Seats down the baselines — both really cool.

    I’m up this Sunday for Toronto game… may or may not go.

    Is Stub-Hub still safe for buying tickets without their deal with the Yankees?

  101. jacksquat May 14th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:42 am
    Jacksquat,

    Can I get a tally on that?

    Today’s tally is not in your favor…

  102. blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    James loney has a .988 OPS right now…..does anybody think he is good?

  103. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    I’ve also looked at Loney’s career numbers. For the 1000x, Young’s current production echoes his career production. The guy is closing in on 2,500 career hits, is younger than half the roster and everyone is acting like they want nothing to do with him. I’m not saying go get him now (unless someone puts words in my mouth). I’m saying target him because he’s a clear upgrade over Adams/Nix/Nelson at 3B. He is better than those guys, right? Again, Adams deserves a chance but I have Michael Young on my radar for the deadline.

  104. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    Is Stub-Hub still safe for buying tickets without their deal with the Yankees?

    Yes, you wont get ripped off.

  105. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:47 am

    jacksquat,

    Give me two years and I can tilt the scales.

  106. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Young is 36, he is like the 5th oldest person who has played for the Yankees this season. He also cannot play any position except 1st in an adequate manner.

  107. MG May 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    blake May 14th, 2013 at 10:46 am
    James loney has a .988 OPS right now…..does anybody think he is good?
    —————————
    according to the Rays radio play by play guy (I heard him on a local Sports talk show for a minute while driving the other day) they’ve made some changes in swing that get more lower body involved and that is one of the big reasons for the improvement.

    Overbay said the same thing about what Kevin Long did with him, maybe there is something to all of this…

  108. DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    You hear Pauly talk about his Silver Slugger being under a couch in his basement, and you Know that Gold Record the Indians gave MO is gonna have a similar destination. It’s a nice photo op, but that is ALL it is. MO should tell these teams if they are gonna award him something, give a donation to a charity of his choice. Lotta glitz here, but NO real substance. Fakey, fakey.

  109. jacksquat May 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    I think between Youk and Arod and Adams, 3B is going to be covered. Young is just not needed.

  110. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:49 am

    JF,

    So you didn’t get the joke.

  111. NYYanksFan May 14th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    The guy with the plastic hip comes back around the deadline and his OPS last year was as good as Young’s Top 10 OPS this year.

  112. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Well jacksquat for the 1000x let’s see what Adams can do. I’m not opposed to that. In fact i’m for it. And you forgot Musty.

  113. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 10:51 am

    So you didn’t get the joke.

    It would only have been a joke if the statement was true, but its clearly not. You’re bad at jokes.

  114. Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Ok Mr. serious sense of humor. All jokes have to be true statements.

  115. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    A couple weeks ago I came on the blog and proclaimed that Nuno was the Yanks 4th best starter. Still believe that of course. Can’t believe he did so well last night with so little recent playing time. When I look at him pitching, he’s basically an “anti-rookie.” Don’t know where he came from but when you look up keeper on wiki there’s his pic.

    Now he must go down to AAA though and wait his turn which will inevitably come soon enough. Baseball is a precious game.

  116. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am

    All jokes have to be true statements.

    No but in this case Michael Young is not YOUNG so joking about the age of the roster makes little sense in puffing up acquiring him. He would be the oldest position player on the roster.

  117. 86w183 May 14th, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Michael Young has a .786 OPS, 8 X-tra base hits and 9 RBI

    NYY 3B combined for a .681 OPS, 8 X-tra base hits and 13 RBI

    An upgrade, but not a huge one

  118. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Also proposed on this blog maybe three weeks ago that CoJo be tried at first base. The next night was his first game there in AAA. After watching him play yesterday, is there really any doubt that he’s a better first baseman than second baseman? Maybe he’s found a real home.

    Can we trade Tex? No seriously? Probably not.

  119. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Also proposed on this blog maybe three weeks ago that CoJo be tried at first base. The next night was his first game there in AAA. After watching him play yesterday, is there really any doubt that he’s a better first baseman than second baseman? Maybe he’s found a real home.

    Its amazing they moved a rookie to 1st base so quickly but were hesitant to move Granderson to a corner.

  120. Mark May 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    MO should tell these teams if they are gonna award him something, give a donation to a charity of his choice. Lotta glitz here, but NO real substance.
    —————————

    You are correct, so:
    Metallica is invited to play gratis – to honor Mo – at last homestand *and* Yankees donate gate of last home game to charity. Metallica did borrow video of Mo for MSG concert and Yankee $$ to charity would be best.

  121. MG May 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Jesus Bustero May 14th, 2013 at 10:41 am
    No MG, you frame your speech as if you speak for everyone and you don’t. And if you can’t talk baseball without being a b-hole towards other posters then you should maybe think about ignoring everything I post. And if you don’t like being called a b-hole, don’t act like a b-hole
    ——————-
    if ‘framing’ my speech the same thing as framing pitches?

    For someone who uses a screen name that denigrates the beliefs of many of the posters on this blog you have no right to claim anyone is insulting. I may not agree with them but don’t find the need to use a screen name that puts it in their face.

    I’ll go back to ignoring everything you say, it seems like the rest of the blog understands how little you know about baseball as well.

  122. Bo knows May 14th, 2013 at 11:02 am

    Brett, every suburb mother’s nightmare – Mohawk, tattoos and overdosed on polysaccharides, extolling the virtues of bacon fat, De Jesus and Young.

    I think I’ll stop here.

  123. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Bo, I was working, so missed most of Nuno’s pitches (I plan to watch the archive), but it sounds like you enjoyed watching the pitch selection/drama unfold. I love going pitch by pitch. It is the part of the game I most enjoy and am most focused on. Especially when I attend minor league games.
    ____
    Mark, I love that idea… One of my best friends is close friends with the band; I should tell him to suggest it to them. Although Mo prefers merengue. LOL.
    ____
    86, the first games–exhibitions vs. Cubs–at NYS, they had the 1920′s ticket prices for the cheaper seats, and Delta’s for $75, so my first NYS experience was Delta’s. Love the view from those seats. Only thing with Stubhub is you can’t immediately download the tix. So, UPS or pick up at SH’s pick up points, I believe. I haven’t used them since the changeover.

  124. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    The guy who needs to be traded (ASAP if possible) is Phelps. Don’t get me wrong. I love this guy. But part of a prospect’s role is to be traded. And he fits all the criteria of a premium tradable asset. Limited ceiling, most likely overachieving, and currently very replaceable. A potential efficient, durable (he hasn’t had a serious injury, so for a pitcher that means he’s durable) and cost-controlled pitcher has super value. Couple him with Sanchez (because as I argued so brilliantly a few weeks ago the Yanks should ALWAYS trade their No 1 prospect) and maybe somebody like Headley is possible.

  125. blake May 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    “The guy who needs to be traded (ASAP if possible) is Phelps”

    For who?

  126. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Actually the guy I was probably most impressed with last night was Warren. He was throwing two pretty good breaking pitches. I don’t remember him doing that. Or being consistently 92-94. I hope this isn’t a mirage but where did all this young pitching come from all of a sudden?

    A couple years ago I was telling a friend that the Yanks had about 7 really good pitchers at double or triple A who’d contribute soon. You guys remember them don’t you. Two of the three pitchers at the bottom of that list were Warren and Phelps. And you know where those top guys are now? Baseball is a funny game.

  127. Tackelberry May 14th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    Bustero:

    you are clearly fighting a losing battle here. You should probably just drop the whole thing and move on to something else.

  128. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Phelps and Warren were always closer to finished products than Betances or Banuelos. This really isn’t that surprising. And Banuelos will probably still have more upside if he comes through surgery OK.

  129. Bo knows May 14th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    On Yes they had an interview with Nuno. He looks like a kid out of La that should be wearing a checked shirt buttoned at the neck. Came the insipid silly “How does it feel”?. The plastic smile, the plastic feelings. Get someone like Alex Belth of Bronx Banter doing interviews

    Someday some kid will give them an honest answer.

  130. mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Hard to say what a pitcher will do till he does it.
    Veteran or rookie.

  131. Mark May 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:04 am

    Mark, I love that idea… One of my best friends is close friends with the band; I should tell him to suggest it to them. Although Mo prefers merengue. LOL.
    ——————-

    It’s just one song…they can get him a merengue band too (for the post-game saunter around the field and overall fiesta).

  132. Joe from Long Island May 14th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    bigdan22 – you make a logical case for trading david phelps, in the right deal.

    the catch is – in 2014 the yanks could have at least two openings in their starting rotation, if/when kuroda and pettitte move on. i think they will be leaning towards keeping phelps, as well as warren, nuno, and marshall, even nova, unless an appropriate deal presents itself. however, at some point, they will have to move somebody, i think.

    have a good day.

  133. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    Bo, I didn’t see the interview but don’t you think that they are taught to be bland and low key because the Yanks want to minimize any potential PR faux pas? Especially if English isn’t their first language? I know the Yanks have asked players to tone it down generally when interviewed and to especially be careful of what they post on twitter, which is understandable.

    At my Trenton game, the Yankee brass didn’t look too happy after Heathcott argued strikes with the arm, mouthing off at him, and got tossed. Heathcott can be a hot head…

  134. mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:19 am

    This emphasis on getting high priced seats for the “view” is a little uppity.
    For me, they are overpriced to begin with so if I want to go I look for a way to get a fair price behind the plate.
    Upstairs is fine.
    Different strokes for different folks but it’s still a baseball game any way you look at it.

  135. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:20 am

    I wouldn’t trade a player at a premium position who is progressing on D and can hit like Sanchez can unless I was getting an equivalent uber player in return. And who replaces Phelps in the SP if Pineda doesn’t come back, and Nova continues to be hurt. I wouldn’t pencil in Warren or Nuno just yet. And not over Phelps at this point.

    Yanks still pushing their $5 tix (in an email I just received) for anyone who wants to see C. vs. the King tonight.

  136. joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:21 am

    86w183 May 14th, 2013 at 10:44 am
    As far as attendance and costs. I was born in the Bronx and attended games for as little as 75 cents in the bleachers and $ 8 for box seats in the late 1960?s.

    When I return to the city I am conflicted about going to games because of the exorbitant costs. I’ve paid as much as $ 200 or so for Delta club Suites, $ 155 for Champions Seats down the baselines — both really cool.

    I’m up this Sunday for Toronto game… may or may not go.

    Is Stub-Hub still safe for buying tickets without their deal with the Yankees?
    *****************
    Yes, I have bought tickets twice this year from StubHub and I own a season ticket plan. The thing with Stubhub is, if the tickets are being sent to you phyiscally you get them in the mail, if they are delicvered electonically, you have to wait until 24 hours before the game to get them as there is some rule about electronic access. i have bought one each way and the tickets worked fine. Hope this helps.

  137. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:23 am

    I really doubt Vidal Nuno is getting coached up by Yankees PR.

  138. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    I actually like Terrace seats behind the plate, but for 2009 playoffs I sat in mains at 3B. Love both seats. I used to sit in Grandstand behind the plate (my original NYS seasons) but those seats are too far back from the field, nothing like Tier 1 (my old section in OYS). Although I did sit in those GS seats for the last time at Jeter’s 3000 hit game, and the crowd was so into it, and I would not have wanted to sit anywhere else for that one.

  139. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Well Joe from LI, maybe the only completely true truism in baseball is you never have a enough pitching. But managing a franchise does involve executing on calculated risks. The Yanks have several long term needs for position players. I expect Cash is exploring what’s available and I believe that Phelps fits the criteria for trade.

    As far as 2014, I really think for the Yanks to be competitive they’ll need one of Kuroda or Andy to return. What the Yanks do need going forward actually (and I’ll catch flak for this) is an ace.

  140. joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:13 am
    Phelps and Warren were always closer to finished products than Betances or Banuelos. This really isn’t that surprising. And Banuelos will probably still have more upside if he comes through surgery OK.

    *****************

    Maybe that’s because our experts didn’t overmanage their activities. Everyone always heard about the B’s but never a lot of press on these guys. They were simply allowed to go out and learn how to pitch. It shoed yesterday when Phelps went out with subpar stuff and figured out how to get into the 7th. IMHO

  141. mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    i have bought one each way and the tickets worked fine. Hope this helps.
    ===================
    So you can bring the printed Stubhub tix into the stadium? No exchange necc before the game?

    Can you buy the tix online and only print them from 3 days down to 3 hours before the game?

  142. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am

    Radio, didn’t see the interview, but Yanks like most teams train players in how to deal with media/interviews, etc.

  143. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    They should have traded Nova after 2011. Guys like Nova and Phelps and Warren who don’t project as front line guys should be traded by the Yankees to other teams for quality position players when their value is high.

  144. ac1 May 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am

    My guess is they think they need as much IF help as possible so Nelson is safe. They have plenty of OF options in the minors to Francisco is gone.

    Today: Nuno down – Grandy up
    Tomorrow: Francisco down – Adams up

    We need Gonzalez for now at SS (until Nunez comes off the DL)

    We have Nix to back up the IF, but I think they like that Nelson has been hitting so they keep him too. Nix can also be the 5th OF.

  145. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Phelps has an arsenal of pitches and can draw on that changeup in any count. He doesn’t have the big fastball but is a better pitcher than most of the big armed kids who are more throwers. Than again, you still want to draft the upside kids with the big arms–that is a risk worth taking.

  146. 86w183 May 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Phelps and Warren attended Notre Dame and North Carolina respectively.

    That is the better explanation as to their poise and seeming more “finished”.

  147. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:28 am

    mick, have you been to any games this year?

  148. ac1 May 14th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    They should have traded Nova after 2011. Guys like Nova and Phelps and Warren who don’t project as front line guys should be traded by the Yankees to other teams for quality position players when their value is high.
    ___

    So anyone that won’t project as 1 or 2 should be gone?
    I think Phelps has been worthwhile.
    Warren and Nuno are proving themselves too.
    I agree Nova may be expendable with everything we have and Pineda and co in AAA, however we dont know what 2014 holds. Will Kuroda and Pettitte return? Hughes is probably gone. So we need to keep our arms…

  149. joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:29 am

    mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    i have bought one each way and the tickets worked fine. Hope this helps.
    ===================
    So you can bring the printed Stubhub tix into the stadium? No exchange necc before the game?

    Can you buy the tix online and only print them from 3 days down to 3 hours before the game?

    *************

    I brought my printed out StubHub ticket and the bar code worked fine. I had to wait until somewhere around 24 hours before the game for the tickets to become available on StubHub. I don’t know about how close to game time youu can print them, I basically printed them when I was alerted that they were available. If you call StubHub customer support, they pretty much can tell you exactly what is going on- they are well versed to speak to this issue.

  150. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 11:30 am

    I guess they are called trolls but silly people for the last couple of years have irked this forum by saying CC is not an ace. I guess if you say something long enough it’s bound to come true.

    Love CC. (Although I wanted the Yanks to let him opt out a few years ago and trade the $ for Darvish but that’s another argument completely). He’s been an awesome ace for the Yanks since he was signed. Except this year. I don’t think, with his stuff presently constituted, you can consider him a No 1 now. He’s a very good 2. In fact the Yanks have three 2s in my opinion.

    And while everyone keeps asking when CC’s velocity will come back this year, an equally relevant question is how much longer will CC continue to keep the velocity he has right now?

  151. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 11:26 am
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    ———–

    They should. That’s why we’ve been developing so many dang pitchers. They’re valuable.

  152. 86w183 May 14th, 2013 at 11:31 am

    They should have traded Nova after 2011. Guys like Nova and Phelps and Warren who don’t project as front line guys should be traded by the Yankees to other teams for quality position players when their value is high.

    ************************************************************************

    Are you serious? The Yanks develop a starting pitcher who goes 16-4, 3.70 at age 24 and is completely cost-controlled? NOBODY trades a guy like that.

  153. mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:32 am

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    Tomorrow: Francisco down – Adams up
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    Days after that: Nunez up – Nelson gone/traded
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  154. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 11:33 am

    So anyone that won’t project as 1 or 2 should be gone?

    Anyone? Yes. Everyone? No.
    Mid-tier teams and poor teams covet cost controlled starters who can be above average, even if they aren’t likely to be great. The Yankees should be trying to build a rotation of potentially elite starters because its hard to sign those guys. You can get the steady, back end guys with veteran signings.

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  157. Jerkface May 14th, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Are you serious? The Yanks develop a starting pitcher who goes 16-4, 3.70 at age 24 and is completely cost-controlled? NOBODY trades a guy like that.

    Its probably been done before. And I woulda traded Nova after that yes, because his year was flukey good, not ‘oh yea this guy is good good’. And of course you don’t trade them willy nilly, only if you can acquire something valuable back.

  158. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:36 am

    The Yanks should definitely be trading pitching at the deadline this year. Nova, Phelps, Warren, Nuno, Marshall. Don’t need them all, gotta send someone off the island.

  159. blake May 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Anybody should be tradeable for the right deal…..it always depends on who you’re trading them for

  160. joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Are you serious? The Yanks develop a starting pitcher who goes 16-4, 3.70 at age 24 and is completely cost-controlled? NOBODY trades a guy like that.

    ****************
    The only negative I’d could say about Nova that season was that he have up hits and walks in bunches but pitched out of a lot of trouble by making his pitch in big moments. He is similar now but can’t seem to make his pitch when he has to and is paying for it.

  161. Warning Track Power May 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am

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  162. Bo knows May 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Bo, I didn’t see the interview but don’t you think that they are taught to be bland and low key because the Yanks want to minimize any potential PR faux pas? Especially if English isn’t their first language? I know the Yanks have asked players to tone it down generally when interviewed and to especially be careful of what they post on twitter, which is understandable.
    ——–
    No the kid did a great interview – talked about he and Romine discussing the pitch to throw. It was excellent. I was talking about Marakavits. The Yankees dumb it down, starting with the big dumb blonde shtick. It’s demeaning to both the lady and the public. As soon as the kid said something interesting they cut away.

    I just checked and they’ve cut out the sequence on the pitch selection FB vs breaking ball. Nuno painted the corner with a FB.

  163. bigdan22 May 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Anyone? Yes. Everyone? No.
    Mid-tier teams and poor teams covet cost controlled starters who can be above average, even if they aren’t likely to be great. The Yankees should be trying to build a rotation of potentially elite starters because its hard to sign those guys. You can get the steady, back end guys with veteran signings.

    Jerkface, that’s a pretty good working principle for a team like the Yanks.

  164. joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    blake May 14th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Anybody should be tradeable for the right deal…..it always depends on who you’re trading them for
    ****************************
    You got to give quality to get quality.

  165. mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Nobody is willing to help the Yankees.
    Trading Phelps is crazy.
    He could start here for 10 years, reminds me of Mussina.

  166. yankeefeminista May 14th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Bo, ah, got it. Too bad. They should let the player’s personality shine through. Heading to class, catch you all later.

  167. mick May 14th, 2013 at 11:40 am

    I was talking about Marakavits. The Yankees dumb it down, starting with the big dumb blonde shtick.
    ====================
    She isn’t dumb.
    Much more straightforward and less cutesy than Kim Jones.

  168. blake May 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    I do think the yanks should shop some of their pitching depth as they have 4 or 5 guys (nova, Phelps, warren, Marshall, Nuno etc) who all have similar ceilings …..you like having depth but they can’t all pitch in the Bronx so it’d be nice if they could turn one or two of them into something else they need

  169. JobaTipsHisCap May 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Phelps will do wonderfully in long run!

  170. Joe from Long Island May 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    bigdan22 – i’m not getting into the definition of an ace, but, you’re right in that they would benefit from a top notch guy to go with cc. who wouldn’t want that?

    that was what pineda was for (and there’s a calculated risk, trading top prospect – or is that hype candidate? sometimes an organization does know how to manipulate the buzz, you think?). one of the big unknowns in the yanks’ calculations is how pineda is going to come back, and that’s one more reason they’re going to be a bit careful in dealing any pitchers, at least until they see pineda throw in ny.

    off to do what i do. have a good day.

  171. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am

    You can bet at least one pitcher gets traded if Pineda is back strong.

  172. joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    We really can’t do anythign until we see what Pineda can do. He has only had half a season that was good, so on a develiopment chart, he is in the same boat as our other young pitchers, albeit with a higher ceiling.

  173. blake May 14th, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Again if I could deal one of those guys to buy low on somebody like Olt then Id do that

  174. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:45 am

    joecembrale May 14th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    We really can’t do anythign until we see what Pineda can do. He has only had half a season that was good, so on a develiopment chart, he is in the same boat as our other young pitchers, albeit with a higher ceiling.
    ——–

    I wouldn’t put it like that. If he’s good enough for a rotation spot, then you definitely trade a guy. Even if he needs some minor league time, we could still trade a guy. We’ve got a lot of back end pitching depth.

  175. ac1 May 14th, 2013 at 11:46 am

    I’d rather they were overstocked with pitching, considering how many players get hurt as well as the age of the front of the rotation…

  176. randy l. May 14th, 2013 at 11:47 am

    i agree with joe in long island that phelps should be kept.

    cost controlled, battle tested , paid his dues in the minors. why trade?

  177. Russell Munson May 14th, 2013 at 11:48 am

    I’d be surprised if the Yankees traded any starting pitchers with three-fifths of their current rotation potentially gone after this year. Even if Pineda comes back healthy this year you can’t just assume he’ll be healthy for good.

  178. blake May 14th, 2013 at 11:51 am

    randy l. says:
    May 14, 2013 at 11:47 am
    i agree with joe in long island that phelps should be kept.

    Of the 5 I mentioned he’s the guy if least want to trade…..just depends who he’s for though…. If the padres called and wanted him for Headley then is do it

  179. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:52 am

    why trade?
    —–

    Trade Phelps if he lands a quality every day guy, that’s a no brainer.

    Even if Pineda comes back healthy this year you can’t just assume he’ll be healthy for good.
    ————–

    You can’t assume Phelps, Warren, Nuno, Marshall and Nova won’t totally bottom out either.

  180. comnsnse May 14th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    CountryClub on Shecky, you are dating yourself and while Schecky might not hit he’d have you laughing your butt off!

    Nice post.

  181. Warning Track Power May 14th, 2013 at 11:53 am

    RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    You can bet at least one pitcher gets traded if Pineda is back strong.
    ————————————————————————————————————-
    That makes sense to me. But dont expect a trade until Pineda makes at least 2 or 3 strong starts upon his return.
    Nobody is going to get traded in June. May not be until the all star break.
    Somewhere a team will need a starting pitcher and the Yankees may be able to fill a need
    in return or get some draft picks out of the deal.

    Nothing would surprise me.

  182. Shame Spencer May 14th, 2013 at 11:58 am

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    Again if I could deal one of those guys to buy low on somebody like Olt then Id do that

    ——————

    Someone tell Olt to start taking grounders at SS. :twisted:

  183. comnsnse May 14th, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Blake, to repeat why should the Yankees not entertain trading Hughes based on my comments to you on the previous thread?

    Second question, Dustin Ackley would be “helped” by Long”?

    Really, would this be the sort of help he attempted for Jeter, Tex and Grandy?

  184. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    I don’t see the Rangers making a deal with the Yankees.

  185. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    “Really, would this be the sort of help he attempted for Jeter, Tex and Grandy?”

    Kevin Long “helped” a 30 year old become an MVP candidate over night.

  186. Warning Track Power May 14th, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    Did Joba seal his fate with the Yankees with his latest embarrassing stunt?
    The incident with Mo in KC
    What is Joba thinking? The kid should have a lot more respect for Mo.

    Joba is delusional about his status on the team and what he has achieved to date in the major leagues.

    We are talking about Mo. A future HOF player and the best closer of all time.
    Does Joba only care about himself at this point in his career?
    Makes me sick to learn that Joba confronted Mo.

  187. blake May 14th, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    “Blake, to repeat why should the Yankees not entertain trading Hughes based on my comments to you on the previous thread?”

    In didnt see the prev thread comment but there is a scenario where is consider trading Hughes just as there is if consider extending him…..without knowing specifics it’s hard to even discuss it

  188. DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Seattle just finished playing a division foe, (Oakland), and King Felix did Not get a start. Their very next series is vs NY, and Felix is scheduled for Game 1. DUMB

  189. blake May 14th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Long has helped a lot of guys….Not everyone can be helped by any one person

  190. blake May 14th, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Re: Hughes. The first thing they should do is offer him a 4/40 extension an see what he says…..if he says yes then great….you have locked him up reasonably through his prime years….if he says no then you have a better idea what it’d take to sign him and also you start consider shopping him at the deadline tonseenwhat he’d bring

  191. blake May 14th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    DONNYBROOK says:
    May 14, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    Seattle just finished playing a division foe, (Oakland), and King Felix did Not get a start. Their very next series is vs NY, and Felix is scheduled for Game 1. DUMB

    So you’re sayin they should have juggled their rotation in may?

  192. DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Teams in a pennant race at the Trade Deadline, do Not trade Chuckers in their rotation. This applies to Hughes. If your gonna deal him, deal him ASAP.

  193. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

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  194. Warning Track Power May 14th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    Seattle just finished playing a division foe, (Oakland), and King Felix did Not get a start. Their very next series is vs NY, and Felix is scheduled for Game 1. DUMB
    _________________________________________________________________________
    How is that dumb? These days starting pitchers regularly get 4 days off in between starts.
    Did you think Seattle would “rush” King Felix so he could start on short rest because Seattle was playing a division foe in May?

  195. DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Absolutely. Your playing the team that won your Division last season, and they do Not see your Ace? Double Dumb.

  196. blake May 14th, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    DONNYBROOK says:
    May 14, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    Absolutely. Your playing the team that won your Division last season, and they do Not see your Ace? Double Dumb.

    Throwing your starters off schedule in May is dumb

  197. DONNYBROOK May 14th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Who said anything about “short rest”??? Nobody said anything about that. The rotation should have been set up so Felix pitched “on rest” vs Oakland.

  198. blake May 14th, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Cool if they get Molina though Id be more excited if he played SS, 3B , or catcher

  199. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    “He can’t sign until he turns 16″

    Is it me, or is that pretty friggin young?

  200. RadioKev May 14th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

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  201. Migs May 14th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    Hughes isn’t coming back next season.

    The Yankees aren’t trading for a 3b.

    Right now they want to see how healthy and good they are come mid-july.

    And no Michael young please.

    Not sure what the rotation is next season, but I assume the yanks want CC, Phelps, and pineda to be a part of it.

    Can’t say what them will do with 189 looming. Could be a down year with no cano, kuroda, and andy…followed up by young players and a free agent splash or 2 in 2015.

  202. comnsnse May 14th, 2013 at 1:03 pm

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    Any coach at the MLB level can do little to truly change ingrained and instinctive hitting habits. I’ll give you a half mark for Ackley being he’s still young but you overestimate what coaching can accomplish at the MLb level.

    To be clear you’d offer Hughes 4&40mm.given his inconsistency , marginal stuff , injury history and questionable work ethic? Did you make the Pavano deal?

    Sorry, no GM spot for you! ;)

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